July 30, 2025 • 47 mins
Buying a home might be the American dream, but nobody warns you about the secret nightmares lurking beneath those picturesque front yards. In this eye-opening roundtable discussion, three seasoned homeowners pull back the curtain on what really happens after you get those keys.
Our special guest host Fiddy welcomes Wendy, a Cleveland-based realtor with dual expertise as both a property professional and homeowner; Collin, whose 1964 house has taught him the true meaning of "fixer-upper"; and Andrea, who discovered the hard way that previous owners don't always disclose raccoon infestations in the ceiling. Their combined experiences offer a masterclass in homeownership reality.
The conversation tackles the maintenance schedules nobody tells you about, with Wendy revealing how something as simple as changing furnace filters every two months can dramatically impact your home's efficiency and your health. The panel debates whether renting truly is easier than owning (it's closer than you might think), and shares war stories about the most challenging home projects they've faced—from kitchen renovations that make cooking impossible to landscaping projects that leave you fighting tree roots for days.
Perhaps most valuable are the warnings for prospective buyers: Wendy's revelation about those beautiful front yard trees potentially destroying your sewer lines might save you $21,000 in repairs, while Collin's advice to immediately check basements and attics that aren't shown in listing photos could prevent catastrophic surprises. And Andrea's passionate plea to never skip home inspections, regardless of market pressure, resonates with anyone who's ever discovered an expensive problem post-purchase.
Whether you're a current homeowner nodding along in painful recognition, a prospective buyer seeking insider knowledge, or someone content with renting who enjoys a bit of schadenfreude, this conversation delivers practical wisdom wrapped in enter
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome everybody to another episode of the Ride Home
Rants podcast.
This is your special guest,host Fitty, and today we bring
you the All Things Houses show,as we talk to three phenomenal
guests about all things relatedto home ownership.
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aired in these five years.
So so make sure you're checkingout all of season five and, of
(00:46):
course, seasons one, two, threeand four, where you can find all
three of our special gueststoday on their appearances, not
only on roundtables, but theirindividual shows.
So we're going to jump rightinto the show here today and
talk about all things houses,right, because why not?
People own houses or people maybe looking to buy a house, and I
think this is a great show anda great roundtable to get three
(01:07):
homeowners insights about buyinga home, and we have a very
special guest who's a realtor aswell, so she'll give you a
little bit more insight as wellto the process of doing that.
So, without further ado, I'mgoing to let the guests
introduce themselves and thenthey're going to give you their
name.
How awful is moving on a scaleof one to ten.
And then is titanic a top 10movie of all time and where they
(01:30):
have it ranked.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So we're going to start with you, wendy hi, I'm
wendy kunash and I am located incleveland, ohio.
Um willoughby, ohio, usually,is what I go, and if I had to
rank moving on a scale of one to10, 10 being the worst, I'm
saying 10.
It's the absolute worst.
(01:53):
It is my least favorite thingin the world and this is what I
do for a living, which is movingpeople, so I can also come from
a place of contribution andunderstanding there.
So 10 on that Titanic is it inthe top 10 for me?
Yes, I will also place it asnumber 10 as well.
Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Colin, I'm calling Pope from Boardman, ohio.
If I had to rank moving on aone to 10 scale, I would put it
at like an eight.
I can think it's prettyterrible, but I can think of
some other things that might bea little bit worse.
(02:34):
Um, and then, as far as Titanicgoes, I would say it's
definitely in the top 10.
Um, for me personally, I wouldprobably put it as like a five.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
All right, that's fair, andrea.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
All right, I am Andrea Precorado.
I am from Youngstown, ohio.
To scale moving, I'm going tohave to give it a five because I
literally moved a mile down thestreet from my childhood home,
so I didn't even have to run au-haul, we just kind of put
everything in the car and got itthere.
Um, titanic it's.
(03:09):
It's top two for me, like.
I love Titanic.
I've watched it so many timesfor being a three-hour movie.
I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's it's top two, so wow, okay, yeah, that that's
fair.
I would rank moving probably asa 10, because I've moved a lot
and I was tired of moving in myCorolla like numerous times and
then when we, when we moved toour house, which was like a mile
and a half down the road, wehired movers because I was like
I am not doing this, I am tooold.
(03:38):
My back, like no way.
It was the best money I've everspent.
I I believe moving companies areworth every penny that uh that
they they charge, um, and I'mgonna say titanic is definitely
a top 10 movie of all time forme.
I'm gonna probably say it's topfive just because of the sheer
amount of money they had tospend to make that, but also the
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sheer amount of money they made.
That movie is still the thirdhighest grossing movie of all
time and I'm pretty sure, if Ilooked, if you add the inflation
for 2025 compared to 1997, itwould actually blow the top two
movies out of the water of alltime, and that was like avatar,
and then I think that was one ofthe avengers movies as.
(04:22):
But if you inflated it to the28 years later, it would
actually blow both of thosemovies out of the water, but
we're not here to talk aboutTitanic, although that might be
a good roundtable for the future.
I'm going to keep that in mindtalking about all things Titanic
, but we're not here to talkabout all things Titanic.
We're here to talk about allthings houses, People.
(04:45):
Today, a lot of people are tornbetween buying a house or
renting a house or having anapartment or a condo or a
townhouse.
But you know, our guests aregoing to talk about their
perspectives on home ownershipand a little bit behind the
scenes on that for peoplethinking about buying a house.
So we're going to go Wendy,Colin and Andrea on the answers
here.
Wendy, we'll start with you.
So first and foremost, on theanswers here.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Wendy, we'll start with you.
So, first and foremost, how oldis your house?
Great question, so this one so25 years old?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
maybe 25 years old, Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Colin, how about yours?
So my house was built in 1964,so if I do my math the right way
, that is 51 years old.
Yes, no, 61 years old.
Yeah, 61.
Okay, there we go.
My math was a little bit off.
Uh, andrea, how about you?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
um, mine was 82, so a little over 40 years almost.
Yeah, 46, something like that.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Okay, ours was 1992, so 33 years old, and the reason
I bring that up is when we getinto some of these other
questions, we're going to talkabout some of the
behind-the-scenes things withthe houses, with their ages.
So, wendy, we're going to go toyou and I'm kind of curious to
hear this from your perspective,not only as a homeowner, but as
someone who sells houses for aliving as well in the real
(06:09):
estate game.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You know, what do you think the hardest thing about
owning a home truly is thehardest thing about owning a
home.
Oh, I will say you got to beorganized and you got a calendar
, maintenance on your home, kindof like.
Think about your dentistappointment, your eye doctor
visits, those types of things.
(06:35):
Think about all of the routinethings that you can be doing in
each season for your house topreserve what you actually have,
but not only that, just to makesure that the mechanics of the
home are just constantly beingchecked.
And so, for example, furnacefilters those should be changed
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believe it or not every twomonths.
A lot of people don't do that.
Air ducts should be cleaned outevery two years.
I know people that have neverdone it in their homes and their
homes are like 50 plus yearsold, and it will increase your
ability to breathe easier in thehome, because our houses are so
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contained through the wintermonths and then also in the
summertime when we're runningcentral air system as well
through the ducts, if that'swhat you have.
So I use those as two examples.
So for me, I think the hardestpart is people, when they buy a
home, they don't think about thescheduling and keeping
themselves on task withmaintaining the home and they
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think, okay, well, I just put ona brand new roof, so that's
good.
Our kitchen's updated, you know.
We may have a brand new roof,so that's good.
Our kitchen's updated, you know.
We may have a brand new furnace, we may have a newer hot water
tank and everyone feels likeeverything's operating as it
should be and that's good.
But there's all of those littlethings that help that house
actually function on the day today that need to be looked at a
(08:01):
little bit more closely, andpeople just don't make the time
for it because we're all busy.
We're all busy enjoyingwhatever it may be right gotcha
okay, colin, what would you say?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
uh, I'm gonna have to agree with wendy.
I think general upkeep andmaintenance is definitely a big
part, um, for our situationspecifically, um, when we bought
this house, almost everythingwas original to the 60s, so we
did a lot of modernization inour house and that took a lot of
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time and a lot of money.
So that's definitely a factorthat I think, depending on your
situation, a lot of people areokay with certain things and I
know a lot of styles are makingtheir way back into style um,
but that one for us wasdefinitely something we weren't
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prepared for or andrea.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
What would you say?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
um, kind of along the same things.
Um as that.
So maintenance just being like,oh okay, like I have to cut the
grass now, which I don't mind,I enjoy working on my home and
like doing the upkeep.
But this year with Ohio, likeit's constant rain and when you
get that one 24 hour windowwhere you have the ability to go
outside and do stuff, you haveto do it, or your yard is the
(09:17):
one that looks bad in theneighborhood and so, yeah,
there's a lot of maintenance.
And if that's something you'renot up for, being a homeowner, I
think would be hard ofmaintenance.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And if that's something you're not up for
being a homeowner.
I think would be hard, sure, andthat's going to tie into the
next question, you know, but Ithink probably the hardest thing
about being a homeowner andthis is kind of kind of go off
the same things, but I thinkit's just the lack of knowing
the maintenance and certainupgrades that you need like to
Wendy's point changing the airfilters in your furnace, getting
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the air ducts cleaned, gettingyou know your your more energy
efficient appliances, so yourelectric bills not through the
roof.
You know, it's just things likethat.
I think that's probably thehardest thing and if you can't
do them yourself, I think italso can get into to Colin's
point, dumping a lot of moneyinto it, especially if you have
to get contractors to do theseupgrades.
So I would go right along thelines with that.
(10:13):
You know I'm going to kind ofgo into this because I am
curious here, because Andreakind of brought this up.
You know, is it easier, in youropinion, to rent a home, not an
apartment, a home rent a homeor own a home?
What do you think is easier,wendy?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Easier for the actual person that's staying with
inside right.
Yep, I'm going to say renting ahome is easier than being a
homeowner.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
All right.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
What would you say?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Uh, I'm going to have to agree that renting is easier
, but just barely.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I know Right, it's like a smidge.
Yeah, I'm there too, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I think there are aspects of owning the home that
make you care more about certainthings, but as far as like a
baseline opinion, I thinkrenting is just slightly easier.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Andrea, what would you say?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I think a big part of that would also depend on your
landlord so my family's ownrental properties and I think it
depends on their expectation aswell.
So, like for a home, is thelandlord going to pay for
somebody to come and cut thegrass?
Obviously, they usually takecare of the maintenance.
If something breaks, that's onthe landlord, but I guess it
depends on the level ofresponsibility.
But it is right there, I think.
(11:36):
Either way, if something breaksand you don't got to fix it,
then renting would be easierCause you're like, I don't got
to worry about that.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Sure, you know I would say I'm going to disagree
on this.
I think owning a home is alittle bit easier because you
are in control of the home.
If you don't have control ofthe home because you're renting
from someone to Andrea's pointit goes off of the home owner,
quote unquote.
You know who you're renting thehouse from and you're at the
(12:03):
mercy of them.
Because if they're out of townyour hot water tank goes, you
can't get ahold of them.
What do you do, you know?
So I didn't.
It's like a 51 to 49% type ofthing.
But I'm going to say owning ahome is just a little bit
different because you're incontrol of the home.
When you don't have control ofsomething, it's really hard
(12:23):
sometimes to get things done.
So next one I'm actuallycurious to hear this, wendy what
is the toughest housing projectyou have had to do?
The toughest.
Water, maybe that you personallyhaven't had to do, but you've
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maybe had to have a contract.
Or, if you've done yourself,what is the most difficult
project that you've run into?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I honestly, I mean, I can think of a few of them,
right.
So it depends if you're in thehouse.
If you don't live in the houseyet or you're able to leave the
house like, you're able to justgo check out, go get an Airbnb
or a hotel or something during aconstruction project, that's, I
have to say, that's the bestway to do it, because living
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through construction whetherit's a kitchen remodel, which is
a nightmare to deal with, ifyou live in the home, especially
with children, it is messy, youare completely out of
commission, being able to userunning water from the sink and
you'd be surprised how manytimes you need to go touch the
sink when you can't touch thesink.
And so kitchen remodel might beone of the top ones for me.
(13:37):
If you live in the home, um,because that's stressful on
every single person.
You can't use a microwave, youcan't use your oven, you can't
do anything right, so you areexpensing most of your food,
having to eat out and rely onthat.
Um, I will also say and this isprobably tied with this one
waterproofing a basement.
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When you live in the home, onthe exterior, because your whole
entire done correctly, yourwhole entire landscape, concrete
, anything around the house isgoing to be torn out shit when
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it's going on, you know.
And then add in some rain,because somehow we get rain
every day here now and it is amud pit, and then they got to
put it all back, but they can'tlevel it yet for months until
the ground actually settles.
So you're living in like amessy yard, and if you don't
time it perfectly with the goodweather here, your yard is not
going to be even usable either.
So I got to say it's those twothings for me.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Okay, yeah, and when I was a lot younger, my dad had
to get this house waterproofedand put French drains in the
outside of the house, and man,that was one heck of a project
with everything with everything.
So, colin, what's that?
One tough project.
You know that you guys have hadto do or you had to get a
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contractor to do you know aroundyour house, especially being
over 60 years old.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
So I'll just go off of what I've done personally.
Um, I have redone all my ownlandscaping at this house and
that you know, starting fromtearing out all the old plants
and all the old block and stoneand removing mulch and digging
dirt and biting roots for sevendays in a row and then coming up
(15:31):
with the new concept and whatyou want it to look like, and
replanting and new block andeverything.
It's definitely very physicallystrenuous.
So stuff inside the househasn't been too too bad.
But actually doing my ownlandscaping, trying to save on
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hiring somebody doing itdefinitely one of the hardest
things I've done.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Sure Andrea.
What would you say?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
So I have DIY'd a lot of things.
I've grown up working on housesbut there's a lot of things
here where, if I can do it andsave the money, I will.
One thing that I could not doand I had to hire somebody for
was the previous homeownersdidn't disclose that there was a
raccoon issue, so they werelike climbing up the siding and
pulling the soffit down and theywere living in my ceiling,
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above my bedroom, and so I hadto have somebody come
de-insulate, disinfect andre-insulate like the entire top
of my home.
And that was not when I wasgoing to DIY, but it did get
done.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
So yeah, I don't blame you on that, you know.
And that's actually so funnybecause, uh, we bought our home
last october and off the back ofour house we have a sunroom and
a deck off of that and thedecks um, on top of stone but
the sunroom is built on dirt butthe rest of the house has a
basement.
So I noticed the hole where anold groundhog hole.
(16:57):
So okay, so he called trapper,set a trap.
Nothing there.
So time passes.
Notice, a groundhog one daycrawled in the other side of our
house, in the back, through acement block that had a gap in
it, through a cement block, wentdown, dug a burrow and then he
occasionally was popping hishead up.
(17:18):
It looked like um caddy shackwhen he came out of the ground,
the gopher and was dancingaround.
So that happened set a trapcatch him in a couple hours so I
have to come back.
A hole's dug out.
Now I'm smashing cement block,trying to crawl underneath a
four foot space.
You know, trying to do all thisso that happens fast forward.
Groundhog comes back a couplemore times.
So I've been fightinggroundhogs underneath our back
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porch probably since lastOctober.
It's like the thousand year warhere between me and the
groundhogs and cement block andI got pickaxes and I got a mask
on my face and a headlamp andgoggles and I'm trying to trying
to crawl in our access spaceunderneath the porch.
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So I would say probably theanimal thing.
If you get an animalinfestation or an animal's
bothering a house, I mean theycan do a lot of damage and we
all know that.
You know, wendy, I'm sure seenit to sell in the house, as
Andrea spoke of it.
I'm sure Colin knows as well.
But Wendy, I'm sure has seen itto sell in the house.
Andrea spoke of it.
I'm sure Colin knows it as well.
But those animals are no joke.
I think the toughest thing istrying to rid animals from
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finding your house, becausewhile you own the house the
animal doesn't know that he'sjust taking claim to the house.
So it's definitely like athousand-year war when you're
fighting the animals.
So sometimes the groundhog getsme on the battle, but
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ultimately I'm going to win thiswar with the groundhog, so I'm
hoping I don't have to get tothe caddy shack and like blow up
my backyard with explosives.
I'm really not trying to dothat.
Um, so we're just going to keepplugging holes and battling him
.
So, uh, one of the next ones,which ties into a great segue
into this uh, yard work.
Now, andrea kind of hinted onthis, but I'm gonna see what
wendy says about this.
Um, do you, do you truly enjoyyard work, wendy?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
no, not even a little bit.
No, I've never, never, no, notonce always hired somebody.
Yeah, okay, being honestcalling now.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Besides killing yourself doing your landscaping,
I mean, do you truly enjoydoing yard work?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I will say, the only thing I don't enjoy is the
leaves in the fall.
That is about the only thingthat really gets on my nerves,
but everything else I'm okaywith.
I actually really enjoy cuttinggrass, so I'm one of those
people.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Okay okay, andrea, now you talked about this before
, though but I mean, do youreally enjoy doing grass?
So I'm one of those people.
Okay okay, andrea now youtalked about this before though
but I mean, do you really enjoydoing the yard work?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
I genuinely love it.
I do I don't know why if it'slike just the precision of it
and like it looking nice after.
But I'm like that dad, thatlike goes out, I'm like that's
really nice, this looks good.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Uh, colin, I have a leaf guy for you though and you
guys are close, so it's good youknow, the leaf guy can just
make one thing.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
That's the one thing I don't do.
I blow them all into the cornerand he comes and picks them up
nice colin, you might, you mighthave just found your new leaf
guy.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Don't have to worry about that anymore I'm just
waiting for a strong breeze andthen blow them all into the
street I mean that's fair too.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Whatever gets rid of them.
You know I don't mind yard workto an extent, but the thing
about our home is we had a treetaken down in the front of our
house and in the back we had anold shed and some dead trees
behind that and we had all thattorn out and grass planted.
So the bad thing is our househas no trees around it, so from
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literally sunup till fouro'clock in the afternoon it's
nothing but dead sun on ourhouse and in the yard.
And our yard does trap somewater, so I can't get out there
like at nine or 10 am to cut it.
Usually I have to go out likearound 11 or 12 or one.
So I'm out there like thehottest part of the day trying
to cut grass.
It's like the Sahara Desert outthere with the sun beating on
(20:59):
you, especially with how hotit's been During just a funny
story here During the massiveheat wave that we had a couple
weeks ago on that Tuesday Ithink that was like I don't know
, maybe like the 22nd orsomething like that or no a
little bit after mayberd 24th Iwas like I'm off today, I'm
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gonna go cut the yard.
So the heat index is, I don'tknow, 105.
I'm out there trying to cutweed, whack, chugging water, so
hot.
I'm in the backyard.
About halfway through thebackyard I was like I gotta go
in the house before I before Iliterally pass out.
So, anyways, go out there,finish it and I come in.
I'm just like drenched in sweat.
I counted I drank 14 bottles ofwater working out in the yard,
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which was Insane.
I didn't want to drink waterafter that, but, um, yeah.
So I was like a gluttony ofpunishment, I guess, for myself,
trying to do the yard that day.
But I will say, when I was done, I looked out from my Front
window and I'm like, all right,I did that.
Yeah, I was like I was like myproud, like old man, dad moment.
If I would've walked down someflip-flops and like half high,
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like you know, knee socks, it'dhave been a really interesting
thing.
I'd have been a real, realproud like grandpa on that.
But, andrea, I do agree, whenyou're done it does look great.
But for the most part, though,yeah, yard work is most of the
time not pleasant, especially ifyou're tearing out tree roots,
as colin alluded to earlier,with like bushes and stuff.
So, uh, one of the next things,just especially talking about
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yard work and getting thecontractors um, you know, uh,
you guys mentioned that you kindof do the diy, you know
projects around the houseyourself to do it yourself, but
do you think it's really is itharder or easier to find a truly
a good contractor or good yardguy, or whatever it may be, to
do work?
Do you think that's a lotharder or a lot easier than what
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people think?
Wendy, I'm curious to hear fromyou with this, especially being
in the real estate game too.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, I mean I'm going to tell you something.
The people that I work with,like these contractors, these
vendors that I have, they workon my own personal properties
and I will vouch for them.
But I have gone through so manyof them in, you know, 20 years
now in this business and you'regoing to cycle through because
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people get busy and they start,you know, missing things and
they're not checking all of theboxes.
It's not easy to find goodcontractors.
It's not because something,something is missing in some, in
some of these contractors aregreat at what they do.
They are not greatadministrative people.
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They are not greatadministrative people.
And so I think a lot of peopleget caught up in the complaint
of well, they never called meback or I never got a quote and
they were out here two weeks ago, and how can they be so
incredibly busy?
I still can't get somethingwritten up from them, or how do
they not know how to scheduleright?
And so a lot of people getfrustrated with contractors, not
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because of their work it'sgetting them to be scheduled for
the work but also being able toobtain a quote or an actual
date or something like that, andI I'm not sticking up for these
contractors?
Believe me, I'm not.
But at the same time, I know alot of them are running very
thin and very small, because alot of them are small business
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owners and they are trying tokeep more money in their pocket
as well and not pay additionalemployees, including
administrative staff, to handletheir scheduling, their books,
you know, and taking care ofquotes and pumping those out
every single day.
So I think there's, you know, itdepends on on that.
So exactly what is thecomplaint and what is the actual
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difficulty?
But as far as good contractorsoh my God, there's so many great
ones out there and you know, ifyou take care of them and you
respect them and you appreciatethe work that they do and you
can give them referrals, thenthey'll continue to show up for
you.
You know, I have greatrelationships with contractors
(25:02):
where I can literally text themon anything and they will say I
can be there in 10 minutes, Ican make this happen in an hour
for you, or if I can't do it,then here's another person, and
so it's just the matter of therelationship that I have with
them to an understanding of howthey actually work.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Sure, no, those are all great points, colin, of the
relationship that I have withthem too, and understanding of
how they actually work.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Sure, no, those are all great points, colin, what's
your opinion on this, though,with the contractors, I would
say personally I can definitelysee how it could be hard to find
good contractors.
Every contractor I've had hasbeen a referral like that.
I've had work in my house soI've had really good luck with
every contractor I've had Um.
(25:45):
But I think if you I think aslong as you do your research and
it, you know it could be veryextensive sometimes, but I think
if you put the time in andactually you know, go in and
talk to these people and see and, like Wendy said, create
relationships with them, I thinkyou'll have better luck than if
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you're just trying to runthrough the phone book and find
somebody.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So sure that's valid, andrea.
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah, I kind of agree with all of it.
I think relationshipsdefinitely help.
Growing up, we really my dadwas just kind of like a jack of
all trades, so we really did alot on our own and didn't have
to hire a lot of people, and Ithink everybody likes to support
small businesses.
I feel like I've had a lotbetter of luck from a small,
family-owned business comparedto a larger one, not to say that
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great contractors don't workfor larger companies.
But I've just noticed thepeople that drive around in the
van that come with two guysthose are usually your ones that
are doing it the old-fashionedway.
They're making sure it's doneright, they're not cutting
corners and you're right, yeah,you take care of them.
Usually we tip our contractors,we offer them food and drinks
while they're there, and thoseare the ones that always produce
(27:01):
the best for us.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Sure, no, I think that's valid and you know both
of my parents are small businessowners.
They're both contractors, so Idefinitely get that and the
contractors that you know we'vehad here not that it's been a
lot, but I'll just give them ashout out Thomas Fence did our
fence, did fantastic job.
They're a very reputablecompany.
If anyone's looking for fencingin the area, especially in the
greater Cleveland area, goreJenks has been here.
(27:27):
They've done.
They're a Cleveland basedcompany.
They've done our elect, some ofour electrical on our plumbing,
our HVAC, so they're reallywonderful to get a hold of them
and while they're not a supersmall company, they're still
very family oriented.
They got some great peoplethere.
Tom, our animal control guy,who I've hung out with a few
times because of our groundhogissues.
(27:47):
He does a fantastic job.
And Sam, our landscaper fromJacobson Landscaping, a very,
very young business owner, butdid a fantastic job with that.
And I think you're right.
You know when you can take careof them and you just ask how
they're doing, you leave themwater, you just show a little
bit of interest and talk to them.
I think it does go, you know, avery long way and I think the
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best thing and I've experiencedthis with a few of our
contractors when a I likeworking here because you are an
easy customer, I think that'sthe best compliment you can have
as a homeowner and someone thatsupports them.
Because, to Wendy's point andColin's point, andrea's point,
it's about the relationships andif they can compliment you as
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being a homeowner and being niceto them, that goes a lot
farther than you beating the wardrums because you're really
pissed off with a contractor oryou're just mad about something
and it's really not their fault.
You're just angry becausesomething's going wrong with
your house.
So those are definitely allgreat points there.
So one of the next things I wantto talk to you about is going
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to be interesting, because Ithink everyone has maybe had
this battle at some point oranother, or maybe not, has maybe
had this battle at some pointor another, or maybe not.
You know we'll, we'll see.
We'll see what the guests sayabout this.
But do you think sometimespeople aren't able to really
enjoy their home, especially theoutside of their home, uh, due
to neighbors?
Um, do you think that's a realthing or do you think that's
(29:14):
really just on a case by casebasis?
I really just want to kind ofget your thoughts here.
So do people sometimes struggleto enjoy their home, especially
being outside, because of theirneighbors?
Wendy.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I would say yes.
Yes, I know several instanceswhere people feel like they are
having to be a prisoner insidetheir own home due to the
behavior of what's going on at aneighbor's house behind them or
even on the sides of them.
So I have seen that incircumstances, of course.
(29:48):
So, yeah, I would say yes, andit's frustrating for everybody
involved too.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
For sure, Colin.
What would you say?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
for sure.
Call him.
What would you say?
Uh, I would say yes, Ipersonally haven't experienced
anything like that.
Um, I've had neighbors, not atthis house but in my previous
home, um, that were troublesome,I guess, um, but never anything
like towards any other people.
It was more so just ininfighting stuff that spilled
into like the driveway or thestreet.
(30:27):
But I could definitely see howyou know.
The nightmare neighborsituation definitely could make
some people feel like they can'tenjoy certain parts of their
home, and it's unfortunatebecause you know you own that,
you're it's, it's yours.
You should be able to enjoy ithow you want.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Sure, absolutely, andrea.
What would you say?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I would say absolutely, because I am
currently helping my friendbuild a fence because her
neighbors will come over if sheis outside at any point, like
she cannot go outside and sitdown without her neighbors being
like there she is, let's gotalk, and they're usually drunk
or like whatever.
So she's like I need a fence.
So yeah, absolutely, and Idon't think anybody should have
to do that.
(31:13):
That's a bummer, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, and I think you know that's the one thing,
that's probably probably the onemost difficult thing I'd say
for anyone buying a home,because you just don't know, you
just don't know what's aroundyou.
Everything can look great andthe optics can look wonderful,
but when you go in, those opticsbecome can become a different
(31:35):
type of reality, whether forgood or for bad.
And I mean, sometimes you getreally great neighbors and you
know other times that you don'tand you try to do things maybe
to mitigate it.
Right, you put up a fence, oryou only maybe go out at certain
times, or you maybe you closein your back porch.
But I do agree with all of you.
I think sometimes neighbors candefinitely create a less than
(31:58):
savory experience for you inyour own home, and that's really
really unfortunate.
So we have a couple more topicswe're going to talk about and
we're going to round out theshow.
So, wendy, what is one thingthat you would warn anyone about
when buying a home?
And it can be anythingexcluding the neighbor situation
.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
What is?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
the one thing that you would warn anyone buying a
home about, and it could befinancial, structural, wherever
the house may be.
What is that one thing youwould warn them about?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Oh man, just one oh.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Or you can give one from the realtor perspective and
one from the homeownerperspective.
However you want to do this.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
All right, one thing that I want to warn people on.
All right, one thing that Iwant to warn people on.
I I'm going to pick the easiestone.
Okay, it doesn't sound like it,it doesn't sound like it's a
problem, but trees in the frontyard, big trees in the front
yard, okay, and the reason whyis this?
Because our sewer lines, unlessyou're out in the country, if
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you are in a city and there aresanitary lines exiting from the
house, they're gonna run tousually to the front of the
house and to the street, and ifyou have a storm sewer, same
thing.
So you have these two lines,right?
The thing is is when we havethese trees, which are beautiful
and I love them, including inour tree lawns, which are
planted by cities, those treeshave roots that you can't see,
(33:23):
right?
And so whatever amount of treethat you can see on the outside,
above ground, it's big, it'sbigger than the house.
You've got to imagine that it'stwo times that amount
underground that you can't seebecause of the tree roots that
are buried, and that's thereality.
That a lot of people don't knowis that you've got this big ass
(33:48):
let's call it 20 foot tree inthe front yard.
What do you think the treeroots underneath the ground look
like?
All in the front yard, in frontof your foundation, where your
sewer lines are exiting out ofthe house too, right?
And so the thing is is withthese tree roots, is they
survive on water and they don'tcare what kind of liquid or
where it's coming from, and sothey eventually make their way
into our sanitary lines.
(34:08):
And you know a lot of peoplehave slow drains and they don't
think anything of it.
Or they may, you know, have aroto-rooter or somebody come out
and take care of clearing outthe lines and they're constantly
using Drano in their pipes andthings like that.
You're damaging your pipes byputting the chemicals down there
to clear out the tree lines,roots, and it's a constant
(34:32):
problem that you're going tohave to deal with annually,
annually, and it's extremelycostly.
But they end up breaking thosesewer lines and you won't even
know it unless you ever havethem cameraed.
And I can't tell you how manyproblems we are having,
especially in houses that arelike Colin's age right now,
(34:53):
anything from like the sixtiesand before that time period.
Most of those are all clay tileand most of those all have to
be replaced if they haven't done, because they're broken and
it's just a matter of the age ofwhat they are right.
So those are the most costlyproblems that you can have.
I have a sewer problem right nowdue to a big tree, and right
(35:15):
now it's totaling $21,000 forthe sewer lines to be fixed in
the city, and so when you knowI'm showing houses and talking
to people and educating themabout the actual trees in the
yard, it's not because I'm atree killer.
If you want them in the back ofthe property, you can have as
many as you want, just don'thave them around the house
because eventually they fall.
But you also need your house tobreathe as well.
(35:38):
The top of your house needs tobreathe from the sunlight and
dry out, completely right, butin the front those can be very,
very costly and damagingproblems that no one's really
talking about.
So that's going to be my topone.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, no, that's a great one.
I knew some of that, but Inever really thought of that,
and that's actually so funnybecause you're talking about the
size of the tree, of what wesee, and you don't talk about it
underneath.
It goes back to Titanic.
You only seen the top of theiceberg.
You didn't see what wasunderneath the water, when it
was like three times the size ofthat.
So that's actually so funnythat you brought that up.
(36:15):
Um, colin, though what would,what would you say, colin?
What was that one thing you hadwarned somebody about when
they're buying a home.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
So this is just from my own personal experience, and
Wendy might have a betterinsight in this than I do.
But if you're looking wheneveryou're getting ready to buy a
home and you're looking throughlistings, if there's no pictures
of the basement and the attic,those are the first two places
you need to go check if you do aviewing, because if they're not
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showing you those, then there'sprobably a reason that they're
not showing.
Ran into that a lot looking athouses in the Northeast Ohio
with wet basements.
That's a big problem.
So definitely, if I had to giveone piece of advice, it would
be that Okay, no, that's a greatpiece of advice, andrea.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
What would you say?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
So it's great that Wendy's on here because she's a
realtor and you're going toconnect with this because my
brother's a realtor, but I wouldsay, not foregoing an
inspection, so obviously Ilearned that from him through
the home buying process.
But I have so many friends nowthat are foregoing inspections
because of how the market is andthen they're like, oh my gosh,
all these things are wrong andI'm like, well that I mean the
(37:31):
extra $500 is so worth it.
Like, yeah, if you getsomething bad back then you lose
the $500, but that's betterthan losing maybe 20,000,
depending on what the issue isthat they end up finding out
later.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, no, that's valid.
What I would say is, whenyou're looking at a home you're
getting ready to buy a home andI call these infrastructure
things Look at theinfrastructure and that is like
your furnace, your hot watertank and your electric panel.
And that is like your furnace,your hot water tank and your
electric panel.
If those things are old andbeat up and they need replaced,
you're going to have to spendsome money because you just need
(38:10):
those things to workefficiently and not everyone's a
licensed electrician or can dothat.
Not everyone can do HVAC, noteveryone can do a hot water tank
, especially if your house isrun by gas.
So gas hot water tank, furnace,things like that, especially if
your paneling is old.
(38:31):
With the electrical aspect ofthings, I would tell people be
cautious because, as all of usknow, when you need electrical
work done and your house is notup to I think it's to 2023 or
2024 code, especially in thestate of Ohio they can't touch
your house electrically untilthey replace your panel and put
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the second panel outside on thehouse.
So I would say, be very, verycautious of that.
Look at those three things themain infrastructure things HVAC,
hot water tank and electricalbecause they can be the most
costly if you have to do updateswith that.
So that would be my tidbit.
But we're going to round outthe show with this one really
(39:14):
interesting question.
I'm really curious to heareveryone's perspective on this.
What is the one best thingabout your home, wendy?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
The one best thing about my home.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
And it could be anything.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I do like the height of the ceiling, so we have like
a great room, it's 18 footceilings.
So we have a great um like agreat room, it's 18 foot
ceilings and um it's housing ourgolf simulator, if I'm being
honest.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So I'm just going to say it's, it's that, yeah, okay,
all right, colin, what wouldyou say?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Um, I'm probably going to have to go with the.
The layout of my house is oneof the good things.
It's not.
So I'm an open floor plan guy.
Um, obviously, a lot of yourolder homes, anything that's
basically not a new build.
It's not going to have an openfloor plan, um, but the way that
our house is is organized.
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It's a buy level.
So bedrooms up top, uh, livingspace down below, and it just
flows really nice for me.
So that's probably what I wouldsay is one of the best
qualities.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Okay, what about you, andrea?
Speaker 4 (40:31):
So I love my house, but I'm going to say that I
would say my neighbors.
I moved in here and probablygot some of the best neighbors
front, back, side to side and,um, I'm very grateful for that
for the time being that we'regoing to be here, cause this
isn't forever home, but Iprobably looked out.
They set a really highexpectation for wherever I move
next.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Hey, you know what that ties back into, that whole
neighbor thing, but I'm glad yougot.
You got great neighbors, um, you, you know, for us, I would say
the best thing about our houseeven though I really don't like
yard work is the size of ourbackyard and the fact that we
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have it fenced in.
It allows us a lot of privacy.
It allows us to host we hosted4th of July here, with plenty of
space out there, our dog's ableto run and go have fun as well.
So I'll say our yards probablythe best thing, because we have
a decent size yard and it sits alittle bit off the road and we
have a.
We have a pretty nice sizebackyard with um, with a fence
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that goes the whole way around.
So I'd probably say that'sprobably the best thing that I
would say that we have with ourhouse.
So, but that's going to do itfor this episode about all
things houses.
I hope everyone enjoyedlistening and hearing
perspectives from not just ourthree guests but also you know,
myself as well, so giving youdifferent perspectives on home
ownership.
So a big thank you to Wendy,colin and Andrea for coming on
(41:57):
and sharing a little bit moreabout their homes and their
experiences with home ownership.
So, as always, if you enjoyedthe show, be a friend and tell a
friend, and if you didn't enjoyit, tell them anyways, because
I bet they like it, just becauseyou didn't.
Mrs Fitty signing off and we'llsee you next week.
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So we're going to jump rightinto the show here today and
talk about all things houses,right, because why not?
People own houses or people maybe looking to buy a house, and I
think this is a great show anda great roundtable to get three
(01:07):
homeowners insights about buyinga home, and we have a very
special guest who's a realtor aswell, so she'll give you a
little bit more insight as wellto the process of doing that.
So, without further ado, I'mgoing to let the guests
introduce themselves and thenthey're going to give you their
name.
How awful is moving on a scaleof one to ten.
And then is titanic a top 10movie of all time and where they
(01:30):
have it ranked.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So we're going to start with you, wendy hi, I'm
wendy kunash and I am located incleveland, ohio.
Um willoughby, ohio, usually,is what I go, and if I had to
rank moving on a scale of one to10, 10 being the worst, I'm
saying 10.
It's the absolute worst.
(01:53):
It is my least favorite thingin the world and this is what I
do for a living, which is movingpeople, so I can also come from
a place of contribution andunderstanding there.
So 10 on that Titanic is it inthe top 10 for me?
Yes, I will also place it asnumber 10 as well.
Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Colin, I'm calling Pope from Boardman, ohio.
If I had to rank moving on aone to 10 scale, I would put it
at like an eight.
I can think it's prettyterrible, but I can think of
some other things that might bea little bit worse.
(02:34):
Um, and then, as far as Titanicgoes, I would say it's
definitely in the top 10.
Um, for me personally, I wouldprobably put it as like a five.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
All right, that's fair, andrea.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
All right, I am Andrea Precorado.
I am from Youngstown, ohio.
To scale moving, I'm going tohave to give it a five because I
literally moved a mile down thestreet from my childhood home,
so I didn't even have to run au-haul, we just kind of put
everything in the car and got itthere.
Um, titanic it's.
(03:09):
It's top two for me, like.
I love Titanic.
I've watched it so many timesfor being a three-hour movie.
I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's it's top two, so wow, okay, yeah, that that's
fair.
I would rank moving probably asa 10, because I've moved a lot
and I was tired of moving in myCorolla like numerous times and
then when we, when we moved toour house, which was like a mile
and a half down the road, wehired movers because I was like
I am not doing this, I am tooold.
(03:38):
My back, like no way.
It was the best money I've everspent.
I I believe moving companies areworth every penny that uh that
they they charge, um, and I'mgonna say titanic is definitely
a top 10 movie of all time forme.
I'm gonna probably say it's topfive just because of the sheer
amount of money they had tospend to make that, but also the
(04:01):
sheer amount of money they made.
That movie is still the thirdhighest grossing movie of all
time and I'm pretty sure, if Ilooked, if you add the inflation
for 2025 compared to 1997, itwould actually blow the top two
movies out of the water of alltime, and that was like avatar,
and then I think that was one ofthe avengers movies as.
(04:22):
But if you inflated it to the28 years later, it would
actually blow both of thosemovies out of the water, but
we're not here to talk aboutTitanic, although that might be
a good roundtable for the future.
I'm going to keep that in mindtalking about all things Titanic
, but we're not here to talkabout all things Titanic.
We're here to talk about allthings houses, People.
(04:45):
Today, a lot of people are tornbetween buying a house or
renting a house or having anapartment or a condo or a
townhouse.
But you know, our guests aregoing to talk about their
perspectives on home ownershipand a little bit behind the
scenes on that for peoplethinking about buying a house.
So we're going to go Wendy,Colin and Andrea on the answers
here.
Wendy, we'll start with you.
So first and foremost, on theanswers here.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Wendy, we'll start with you.
So, first and foremost, how oldis your house?
Great question, so this one so25 years old?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
maybe 25 years old, Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Colin, how about yours?
So my house was built in 1964,so if I do my math the right way
, that is 51 years old.
Yes, no, 61 years old.
Yeah, 61.
Okay, there we go.
My math was a little bit off.
Uh, andrea, how about you?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
um, mine was 82, so a little over 40 years almost.
Yeah, 46, something like that.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Okay, ours was 1992, so 33 years old, and the reason
I bring that up is when we getinto some of these other
questions, we're going to talkabout some of the
behind-the-scenes things withthe houses, with their ages.
So, wendy, we're going to go toyou and I'm kind of curious to
hear this from your perspective,not only as a homeowner, but as
someone who sells houses for aliving as well in the real
(06:09):
estate game.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You know, what do you think the hardest thing about
owning a home truly is thehardest thing about owning a
home.
Oh, I will say you got to beorganized and you got a calendar
, maintenance on your home, kindof like.
Think about your dentistappointment, your eye doctor
visits, those types of things.
(06:35):
Think about all of the routinethings that you can be doing in
each season for your house topreserve what you actually have,
but not only that, just to makesure that the mechanics of the
home are just constantly beingchecked.
And so, for example, furnacefilters those should be changed
(06:58):
believe it or not every twomonths.
A lot of people don't do that.
Air ducts should be cleaned outevery two years.
I know people that have neverdone it in their homes and their
homes are like 50 plus yearsold, and it will increase your
ability to breathe easier in thehome, because our houses are so
(07:18):
contained through the wintermonths and then also in the
summertime when we're runningcentral air system as well
through the ducts, if that'swhat you have.
So I use those as two examples.
So for me, I think the hardestpart is people, when they buy a
home, they don't think about thescheduling and keeping
themselves on task withmaintaining the home and they
(07:40):
think, okay, well, I just put ona brand new roof, so that's
good.
Our kitchen's updated, you know.
We may have a brand new roof,so that's good.
Our kitchen's updated, you know.
We may have a brand new furnace, we may have a newer hot water
tank and everyone feels likeeverything's operating as it
should be and that's good.
But there's all of those littlethings that help that house
actually function on the day today that need to be looked at a
(08:01):
little bit more closely, andpeople just don't make the time
for it because we're all busy.
We're all busy enjoyingwhatever it may be right gotcha
okay, colin, what would you say?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
uh, I'm gonna have to agree with wendy.
I think general upkeep andmaintenance is definitely a big
part, um, for our situationspecifically, um, when we bought
this house, almost everythingwas original to the 60s, so we
did a lot of modernization inour house and that took a lot of
(08:32):
time and a lot of money.
So that's definitely a factorthat I think, depending on your
situation, a lot of people areokay with certain things and I
know a lot of styles are makingtheir way back into style um,
but that one for us wasdefinitely something we weren't
(08:52):
prepared for or andrea.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
What would you say?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
um, kind of along the same things.
Um as that.
So maintenance just being like,oh okay, like I have to cut the
grass now, which I don't mind,I enjoy working on my home and
like doing the upkeep.
But this year with Ohio, likeit's constant rain and when you
get that one 24 hour windowwhere you have the ability to go
outside and do stuff, you haveto do it, or your yard is the
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one that looks bad in theneighborhood and so, yeah,
there's a lot of maintenance.
And if that's something you'renot up for, being a homeowner, I
think would be hard ofmaintenance.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And if that's something you're not up for
being a homeowner.
I think would be hard, sure, andthat's going to tie into the
next question, you know, but Ithink probably the hardest thing
about being a homeowner andthis is kind of kind of go off
the same things, but I thinkit's just the lack of knowing
the maintenance and certainupgrades that you need like to
Wendy's point changing the airfilters in your furnace, getting
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the air ducts cleaned, gettingyou know your your more energy
efficient appliances, so yourelectric bills not through the
roof.
You know, it's just things likethat.
I think that's probably thehardest thing and if you can't
do them yourself, I think italso can get into to Colin's
point, dumping a lot of moneyinto it, especially if you have
to get contractors to do theseupgrades.
So I would go right along thelines with that.
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You know I'm going to kind ofgo into this because I am
curious here, because Andreakind of brought this up.
You know, is it easier, in youropinion, to rent a home, not an
apartment, a home rent a homeor own a home?
What do you think is easier,wendy?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Easier for the actual person that's staying with
inside right.
Yep, I'm going to say renting ahome is easier than being a
homeowner.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
All right.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
What would you say?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Uh, I'm going to have to agree that renting is easier
, but just barely.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I know Right, it's like a smidge.
Yeah, I'm there too, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I think there are aspects of owning the home that
make you care more about certainthings, but as far as like a
baseline opinion, I thinkrenting is just slightly easier.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Andrea, what would you say?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I think a big part of that would also depend on your
landlord so my family's ownrental properties and I think it
depends on their expectation aswell.
So, like for a home, is thelandlord going to pay for
somebody to come and cut thegrass?
Obviously, they usually takecare of the maintenance.
If something breaks, that's onthe landlord, but I guess it
depends on the level ofresponsibility.
But it is right there, I think.
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Either way, if something breaksand you don't got to fix it,
then renting would be easierCause you're like, I don't got
to worry about that.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Sure, you know I would say I'm going to disagree
on this.
I think owning a home is alittle bit easier because you
are in control of the home.
If you don't have control ofthe home because you're renting
from someone to Andrea's pointit goes off of the home owner,
quote unquote.
You know who you're renting thehouse from and you're at the
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mercy of them.
Because if they're out of townyour hot water tank goes, you
can't get ahold of them.
What do you do, you know?
So I didn't.
It's like a 51 to 49% type ofthing.
But I'm going to say owning ahome is just a little bit
different because you're incontrol of the home.
When you don't have control ofsomething, it's really hard
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sometimes to get things done.
So next one I'm actuallycurious to hear this, wendy what
is the toughest housing projectyou have had to do?
The toughest.
Water, maybe that you personallyhaven't had to do, but you've
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maybe had to have a contract.
Or, if you've done yourself,what is the most difficult
project that you've run into?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I honestly, I mean, I can think of a few of them,
right.
So it depends if you're in thehouse.
If you don't live in the houseyet or you're able to leave the
house like, you're able to justgo check out, go get an Airbnb
or a hotel or something during aconstruction project, that's, I
have to say, that's the bestway to do it, because living
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through construction whetherit's a kitchen remodel, which is
a nightmare to deal with, ifyou live in the home, especially
with children, it is messy, youare completely out of
commission, being able to userunning water from the sink and
you'd be surprised how manytimes you need to go touch the
sink when you can't touch thesink.
And so kitchen remodel might beone of the top ones for me.
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If you live in the home, um,because that's stressful on
every single person.
You can't use a microwave, youcan't use your oven, you can't
do anything right, so you areexpensing most of your food,
having to eat out and rely onthat.
Um, I will also say and this isprobably tied with this one
waterproofing a basement.
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When you live in the home, onthe exterior, because your whole
entire done correctly, yourwhole entire landscape, concrete
, anything around the house isgoing to be torn out shit when
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it's going on, you know.
And then add in some rain,because somehow we get rain
every day here now and it is amud pit, and then they got to
put it all back, but they can'tlevel it yet for months until
the ground actually settles.
So you're living in like amessy yard, and if you don't
time it perfectly with the goodweather here, your yard is not
going to be even usable either.
So I got to say it's those twothings for me.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Okay, yeah, and when I was a lot younger, my dad had
to get this house waterproofedand put French drains in the
outside of the house, and man,that was one heck of a project
with everything with everything.
So, colin, what's that?
One tough project.
You know that you guys have hadto do or you had to get a
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contractor to do you know aroundyour house, especially being
over 60 years old.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
So I'll just go off of what I've done personally.
Um, I have redone all my ownlandscaping at this house and
that you know, starting fromtearing out all the old plants
and all the old block and stoneand removing mulch and digging
dirt and biting roots for sevendays in a row and then coming up
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with the new concept and whatyou want it to look like, and
replanting and new block andeverything.
It's definitely very physicallystrenuous.
So stuff inside the househasn't been too too bad.
But actually doing my ownlandscaping, trying to save on
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hiring somebody doing itdefinitely one of the hardest
things I've done.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Sure Andrea.
What would you say?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
So I have DIY'd a lot of things.
I've grown up working on housesbut there's a lot of things
here where, if I can do it andsave the money, I will.
One thing that I could not doand I had to hire somebody for
was the previous homeownersdidn't disclose that there was a
raccoon issue, so they werelike climbing up the siding and
pulling the soffit down and theywere living in my ceiling,
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above my bedroom, and so I hadto have somebody come
de-insulate, disinfect andre-insulate like the entire top
of my home.
And that was not when I wasgoing to DIY, but it did get
done.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
So yeah, I don't blame you on that, you know.
And that's actually so funnybecause, uh, we bought our home
last october and off the back ofour house we have a sunroom and
a deck off of that and thedecks um, on top of stone but
the sunroom is built on dirt butthe rest of the house has a
basement.
So I noticed the hole where anold groundhog hole.
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So okay, so he called trapper,set a trap.
Nothing there.
So time passes.
Notice, a groundhog one daycrawled in the other side of our
house, in the back, through acement block that had a gap in
it, through a cement block, wentdown, dug a burrow and then he
occasionally was popping hishead up.
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It looked like um caddy shackwhen he came out of the ground,
the gopher and was dancingaround.
So that happened set a trapcatch him in a couple hours so I
have to come back.
A hole's dug out.
Now I'm smashing cement block,trying to crawl underneath a
four foot space.
You know, trying to do all thisso that happens fast forward.
Groundhog comes back a couplemore times.
So I've been fightinggroundhogs underneath our back
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porch probably since lastOctober.
It's like the thousand year warhere between me and the
groundhogs and cement block andI got pickaxes and I got a mask
on my face and a headlamp andgoggles and I'm trying to trying
to crawl in our access spaceunderneath the porch.
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So I would say probably theanimal thing.
If you get an animalinfestation or an animal's
bothering a house, I mean theycan do a lot of damage and we
all know that.
You know, wendy, I'm sure seenit to sell in the house, as
Andrea spoke of it.
I'm sure Colin knows as well.
But Wendy, I'm sure has seen itto sell in the house.
Andrea spoke of it.
I'm sure Colin knows it as well.
But those animals are no joke.
I think the toughest thing istrying to rid animals from
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finding your house, becausewhile you own the house the
animal doesn't know that he'sjust taking claim to the house.
So it's definitely like athousand-year war when you're
fighting the animals.
So sometimes the groundhog getsme on the battle, but
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ultimately I'm going to win thiswar with the groundhog, so I'm
hoping I don't have to get tothe caddy shack and like blow up
my backyard with explosives.
I'm really not trying to dothat.
Um, so we're just going to keepplugging holes and battling him
.
So, uh, one of the next ones,which ties into a great segue
into this uh, yard work.
Now, andrea kind of hinted onthis, but I'm gonna see what
wendy says about this.
Um, do you, do you truly enjoyyard work, wendy?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
no, not even a little bit.
No, I've never, never, no, notonce always hired somebody.
Yeah, okay, being honestcalling now.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Besides killing yourself doing your landscaping,
I mean, do you truly enjoydoing yard work?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I will say, the only thing I don't enjoy is the
leaves in the fall.
That is about the only thingthat really gets on my nerves,
but everything else I'm okaywith.
I actually really enjoy cuttinggrass, so I'm one of those
people.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Okay okay, andrea, now you talked about this before
, though but I mean, do youreally enjoy doing grass?
So I'm one of those people.
Okay okay, andrea now youtalked about this before though
but I mean, do you really enjoydoing the yard work?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
I genuinely love it.
I do I don't know why if it'slike just the precision of it
and like it looking nice after.
But I'm like that dad, thatlike goes out, I'm like that's
really nice, this looks good.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Uh, colin, I have a leaf guy for you though and you
guys are close, so it's good youknow, the leaf guy can just
make one thing.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
That's the one thing I don't do.
I blow them all into the cornerand he comes and picks them up
nice colin, you might, you mighthave just found your new leaf
guy.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Don't have to worry about that anymore I'm just
waiting for a strong breeze andthen blow them all into the
street I mean that's fair too.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Whatever gets rid of them.
You know I don't mind yard workto an extent, but the thing
about our home is we had a treetaken down in the front of our
house and in the back we had anold shed and some dead trees
behind that and we had all thattorn out and grass planted.
So the bad thing is our househas no trees around it, so from
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literally sunup till fouro'clock in the afternoon it's
nothing but dead sun on ourhouse and in the yard.
And our yard does trap somewater, so I can't get out there
like at nine or 10 am to cut it.
Usually I have to go out likearound 11 or 12 or one.
So I'm out there like thehottest part of the day trying
to cut grass.
It's like the Sahara Desert outthere with the sun beating on
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you, especially with how hotit's been During just a funny
story here During the massiveheat wave that we had a couple
weeks ago on that Tuesday Ithink that was like I don't know
, maybe like the 22nd orsomething like that or no a
little bit after mayberd 24th Iwas like I'm off today, I'm
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gonna go cut the yard.
So the heat index is, I don'tknow, 105.
I'm out there trying to cutweed, whack, chugging water, so
hot.
I'm in the backyard.
About halfway through thebackyard I was like I gotta go
in the house before I before Iliterally pass out.
So, anyways, go out there,finish it and I come in.
I'm just like drenched in sweat.
I counted I drank 14 bottles ofwater working out in the yard,
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which was Insane.
I didn't want to drink waterafter that, but, um, yeah.
So I was like a gluttony ofpunishment, I guess, for myself,
trying to do the yard that day.
But I will say, when I was done, I looked out from my Front
window and I'm like, all right,I did that.
Yeah, I was like I was like myproud, like old man, dad moment.
If I would've walked down someflip-flops and like half high,
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like you know, knee socks, it'dhave been a really interesting
thing.
I'd have been a real, realproud like grandpa on that.
But, andrea, I do agree, whenyou're done it does look great.
But for the most part, though,yeah, yard work is most of the
time not pleasant, especially ifyou're tearing out tree roots,
as colin alluded to earlier,with like bushes and stuff.
So, uh, one of the next things,just especially talking about
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yard work and getting thecontractors um, you know, uh,
you guys mentioned that you kindof do the diy, you know
projects around the houseyourself to do it yourself, but
do you think it's really is itharder or easier to find a truly
a good contractor or good yardguy, or whatever it may be, to
do work?
Do you think that's a lotharder or a lot easier than what
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people think?
Wendy, I'm curious to hear fromyou with this, especially being
in the real estate game too.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, I mean I'm going to tell you something.
The people that I work with,like these contractors, these
vendors that I have, they workon my own personal properties
and I will vouch for them.
But I have gone through so manyof them in, you know, 20 years
now in this business and you'regoing to cycle through because
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people get busy and they start,you know, missing things and
they're not checking all of theboxes.
It's not easy to find goodcontractors.
It's not because something,something is missing in some, in
some of these contractors aregreat at what they do.
They are not greatadministrative people.
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They are not greatadministrative people.
And so I think a lot of peopleget caught up in the complaint
of well, they never called meback or I never got a quote and
they were out here two weeks ago, and how can they be so
incredibly busy?
I still can't get somethingwritten up from them, or how do
they not know how to scheduleright?
And so a lot of people getfrustrated with contractors, not
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because of their work it'sgetting them to be scheduled for
the work but also being able toobtain a quote or an actual
date or something like that, andI I'm not sticking up for these
contractors?
Believe me, I'm not.
But at the same time, I know alot of them are running very
thin and very small, because alot of them are small business
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owners and they are trying tokeep more money in their pocket
as well and not pay additionalemployees, including
administrative staff, to handletheir scheduling, their books,
you know, and taking care ofquotes and pumping those out
every single day.
So I think there's, you know, itdepends on on that.
So exactly what is thecomplaint and what is the actual
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difficulty?
But as far as good contractorsoh my God, there's so many great
ones out there and you know, ifyou take care of them and you
respect them and you appreciatethe work that they do and you
can give them referrals, thenthey'll continue to show up for
you.
You know, I have greatrelationships with contractors
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where I can literally text themon anything and they will say I
can be there in 10 minutes, Ican make this happen in an hour
for you, or if I can't do it,then here's another person, and
so it's just the matter of therelationship that I have with
them to an understanding of howthey actually work.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Sure, no, those are all great points, colin, of the
relationship that I have withthem too, and understanding of
how they actually work.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Sure, no, those are all great points, colin, what's
your opinion on this, though,with the contractors, I would
say personally I can definitelysee how it could be hard to find
good contractors.
Every contractor I've had hasbeen a referral like that.
I've had work in my house soI've had really good luck with
every contractor I've had Um.
(25:45):
But I think if you I think aslong as you do your research and
it, you know it could be veryextensive sometimes, but I think
if you put the time in andactually you know, go in and
talk to these people and see and, like Wendy said, create
relationships with them, I thinkyou'll have better luck than if
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you're just trying to runthrough the phone book and find
somebody.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So sure that's valid, andrea.
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah, I kind of agree with all of it.
I think relationshipsdefinitely help.
Growing up, we really my dadwas just kind of like a jack of
all trades, so we really did alot on our own and didn't have
to hire a lot of people, and Ithink everybody likes to support
small businesses.
I feel like I've had a lotbetter of luck from a small,
family-owned business comparedto a larger one, not to say that
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great contractors don't workfor larger companies.
But I've just noticed thepeople that drive around in the
van that come with two guysthose are usually your ones that
are doing it the old-fashionedway.
They're making sure it's doneright, they're not cutting
corners and you're right, yeah,you take care of them.
Usually we tip our contractors,we offer them food and drinks
while they're there, and thoseare the ones that always produce
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the best for us.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Sure, no, I think that's valid and you know both
of my parents are small businessowners.
They're both contractors, so Idefinitely get that and the
contractors that you know we'vehad here not that it's been a
lot, but I'll just give them ashout out Thomas Fence did our
fence, did fantastic job.
They're a very reputablecompany.
If anyone's looking for fencingin the area, especially in the
greater Cleveland area, goreJenks has been here.
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They've done.
They're a Cleveland basedcompany.
They've done our elect, some ofour electrical on our plumbing,
our HVAC, so they're reallywonderful to get a hold of them
and while they're not a supersmall company, they're still
very family oriented.
They got some great peoplethere.
Tom, our animal control guy,who I've hung out with a few
times because of our groundhogissues.
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He does a fantastic job.
And Sam, our landscaper fromJacobson Landscaping, a very,
very young business owner, butdid a fantastic job with that.
And I think you're right.
You know when you can take careof them and you just ask how
they're doing, you leave themwater, you just show a little
bit of interest and talk to them.
I think it does go, you know, avery long way and I think the
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best thing and I've experiencedthis with a few of our
contractors when a I likeworking here because you are an
easy customer, I think that'sthe best compliment you can have
as a homeowner and someone thatsupports them.
Because, to Wendy's point andColin's point, andrea's point,
it's about the relationships andif they can compliment you as
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being a homeowner and being niceto them, that goes a lot
farther than you beating the wardrums because you're really
pissed off with a contractor oryou're just mad about something
and it's really not their fault.
You're just angry becausesomething's going wrong with
your house.
So those are definitely allgreat points there.
So one of the next things I wantto talk to you about is going
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to be interesting, because Ithink everyone has maybe had
this battle at some point oranother, or maybe not, has maybe
had this battle at some pointor another, or maybe not.
You know we'll, we'll see.
We'll see what the guests sayabout this.
But do you think sometimespeople aren't able to really
enjoy their home, especially theoutside of their home, uh, due
to neighbors?
Um, do you think that's a realthing or do you think that's
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really just on a case by casebasis?
I really just want to kind ofget your thoughts here.
So do people sometimes struggleto enjoy their home, especially
being outside, because of theirneighbors?
Wendy.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I would say yes.
Yes, I know several instanceswhere people feel like they are
having to be a prisoner insidetheir own home due to the
behavior of what's going on at aneighbor's house behind them or
even on the sides of them.
So I have seen that incircumstances, of course.
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So, yeah, I would say yes, andit's frustrating for everybody
involved too.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
For sure, Colin.
What would you say?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
for sure.
Call him.
What would you say?
Uh, I would say yes, Ipersonally haven't experienced
anything like that.
Um, I've had neighbors, not atthis house but in my previous
home, um, that were troublesome,I guess, um, but never anything
like towards any other people.
It was more so just ininfighting stuff that spilled
into like the driveway or thestreet.
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But I could definitely see howyou know.
The nightmare neighborsituation definitely could make
some people feel like they can'tenjoy certain parts of their
home, and it's unfortunatebecause you know you own that,
you're it's, it's yours.
You should be able to enjoy ithow you want.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Sure, absolutely, andrea.
What would you say?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I would say absolutely, because I am
currently helping my friendbuild a fence because her
neighbors will come over if sheis outside at any point, like
she cannot go outside and sitdown without her neighbors being
like there she is, let's gotalk, and they're usually drunk
or like whatever.
So she's like I need a fence.
So yeah, absolutely, and Idon't think anybody should have
to do that.
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That's a bummer, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, and I think you know that's the one thing,
that's probably probably the onemost difficult thing I'd say
for anyone buying a home,because you just don't know, you
just don't know what's aroundyou.
Everything can look great andthe optics can look wonderful,
but when you go in, those opticsbecome can become a different
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type of reality, whether forgood or for bad.
And I mean, sometimes you getreally great neighbors and you
know other times that you don'tand you try to do things maybe
to mitigate it.
Right, you put up a fence, oryou only maybe go out at certain
times, or you maybe you closein your back porch.
But I do agree with all of you.
I think sometimes neighbors candefinitely create a less than
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savory experience for you inyour own home, and that's really
really unfortunate.
So we have a couple more topicswe're going to talk about and
we're going to round out theshow.
So, wendy, what is one thingthat you would warn anyone about
when buying a home?
And it can be anythingexcluding the neighbor situation
.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
What is?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
the one thing that you would warn anyone buying a
home about, and it could befinancial, structural, wherever
the house may be.
What is that one thing youwould warn them about?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Oh man, just one oh.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Or you can give one from the realtor perspective and
one from the homeownerperspective.
However you want to do this.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
All right, one thing that I want to warn people on.
All right, one thing that Iwant to warn people on.
I I'm going to pick the easiestone.
Okay, it doesn't sound like it,it doesn't sound like it's a
problem, but trees in the frontyard, big trees in the front
yard, okay, and the reason whyis this?
Because our sewer lines, unlessyou're out in the country, if
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you are in a city and there aresanitary lines exiting from the
house, they're gonna run tousually to the front of the
house and to the street, and ifyou have a storm sewer, same
thing.
So you have these two lines,right?
The thing is is when we havethese trees, which are beautiful
and I love them, including inour tree lawns, which are
planted by cities, those treeshave roots that you can't see,
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right?
And so whatever amount of treethat you can see on the outside,
above ground, it's big, it'sbigger than the house.
You've got to imagine that it'stwo times that amount
underground that you can't seebecause of the tree roots that
are buried, and that's thereality.
That a lot of people don't knowis that you've got this big ass
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let's call it 20 foot tree inthe front yard.
What do you think the treeroots underneath the ground look
like?
All in the front yard, in frontof your foundation, where your
sewer lines are exiting out ofthe house too, right?
And so the thing is is withthese tree roots, is they
survive on water and they don'tcare what kind of liquid or
where it's coming from, and sothey eventually make their way
into our sanitary lines.
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And you know a lot of peoplehave slow drains and they don't
think anything of it.
Or they may, you know, have aroto-rooter or somebody come out
and take care of clearing outthe lines and they're constantly
using Drano in their pipes andthings like that.
You're damaging your pipes byputting the chemicals down there
to clear out the tree lines,roots, and it's a constant
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problem that you're going tohave to deal with annually,
annually, and it's extremelycostly.
But they end up breaking thosesewer lines and you won't even
know it unless you ever havethem cameraed.
And I can't tell you how manyproblems we are having,
especially in houses that arelike Colin's age right now,
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anything from like the sixtiesand before that time period.
Most of those are all clay tileand most of those all have to
be replaced if they haven't done, because they're broken and
it's just a matter of the age ofwhat they are right.
So those are the most costlyproblems that you can have.
I have a sewer problem right nowdue to a big tree, and right
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now it's totaling $21,000 forthe sewer lines to be fixed in
the city, and so when you knowI'm showing houses and talking
to people and educating themabout the actual trees in the
yard, it's not because I'm atree killer.
If you want them in the back ofthe property, you can have as
many as you want, just don'thave them around the house
because eventually they fall.
But you also need your house tobreathe as well.
(35:38):
The top of your house needs tobreathe from the sunlight and
dry out, completely right, butin the front those can be very,
very costly and damagingproblems that no one's really
talking about.
So that's going to be my topone.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, no, that's a great one.
I knew some of that, but Inever really thought of that,
and that's actually so funnybecause you're talking about the
size of the tree, of what wesee, and you don't talk about it
underneath.
It goes back to Titanic.
You only seen the top of theiceberg.
You didn't see what wasunderneath the water, when it
was like three times the size ofthat.
So that's actually so funnythat you brought that up.
(36:15):
Um, colin, though what would,what would you say, colin?
What was that one thing you hadwarned somebody about when
they're buying a home.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
So this is just from my own personal experience, and
Wendy might have a betterinsight in this than I do.
But if you're looking wheneveryou're getting ready to buy a
home and you're looking throughlistings, if there's no pictures
of the basement and the attic,those are the first two places
you need to go check if you do aviewing, because if they're not
(36:47):
showing you those, then there'sprobably a reason that they're
not showing.
Ran into that a lot looking athouses in the Northeast Ohio
with wet basements.
That's a big problem.
So definitely, if I had to giveone piece of advice, it would
be that Okay, no, that's a greatpiece of advice, andrea.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
What would you say?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
So it's great that Wendy's on here because she's a
realtor and you're going toconnect with this because my
brother's a realtor, but I wouldsay, not foregoing an
inspection, so obviously Ilearned that from him through
the home buying process.
But I have so many friends nowthat are foregoing inspections
because of how the market is andthen they're like, oh my gosh,
all these things are wrong andI'm like, well that I mean the
(37:31):
extra $500 is so worth it.
Like, yeah, if you getsomething bad back then you lose
the $500, but that's betterthan losing maybe 20,000,
depending on what the issue isthat they end up finding out
later.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, no, that's valid.
What I would say is, whenyou're looking at a home you're
getting ready to buy a home andI call these infrastructure
things Look at theinfrastructure and that is like
your furnace, your hot watertank and your electric panel.
And that is like your furnace,your hot water tank and your
electric panel.
If those things are old andbeat up and they need replaced,
you're going to have to spendsome money because you just need
(38:10):
those things to workefficiently and not everyone's a
licensed electrician or can dothat.
Not everyone can do HVAC, noteveryone can do a hot water tank
, especially if your house isrun by gas.
So gas hot water tank, furnace,things like that, especially if
your paneling is old.
(38:31):
With the electrical aspect ofthings, I would tell people be
cautious because, as all of usknow, when you need electrical
work done and your house is notup to I think it's to 2023 or
2024 code, especially in thestate of Ohio they can't touch
your house electrically untilthey replace your panel and put
(38:52):
the second panel outside on thehouse.
So I would say, be very, verycautious of that.
Look at those three things themain infrastructure things HVAC,
hot water tank and electricalbecause they can be the most
costly if you have to do updateswith that.
So that would be my tidbit.
But we're going to round outthe show with this one really
(39:14):
interesting question.
I'm really curious to heareveryone's perspective on this.
What is the one best thingabout your home, wendy?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
The one best thing about my home.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
And it could be anything.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I do like the height of the ceiling, so we have like
a great room, it's 18 footceilings.
So we have a great um like agreat room, it's 18 foot
ceilings and um it's housing ourgolf simulator, if I'm being
honest.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So I'm just going to say it's, it's that, yeah, okay,
all right, colin, what wouldyou say?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Um, I'm probably going to have to go with the.
The layout of my house is oneof the good things.
It's not.
So I'm an open floor plan guy.
Um, obviously, a lot of yourolder homes, anything that's
basically not a new build.
It's not going to have an openfloor plan, um, but the way that
our house is is organized.
(40:14):
It's a buy level.
So bedrooms up top, uh, livingspace down below, and it just
flows really nice for me.
So that's probably what I wouldsay is one of the best
qualities.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Okay, what about you, andrea?
Speaker 4 (40:31):
So I love my house, but I'm going to say that I
would say my neighbors.
I moved in here and probablygot some of the best neighbors
front, back, side to side and,um, I'm very grateful for that
for the time being that we'regoing to be here, cause this
isn't forever home, but Iprobably looked out.
They set a really highexpectation for wherever I move
next.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Hey, you know what that ties back into, that whole
neighbor thing, but I'm glad yougot.
You got great neighbors, um, you, you know, for us, I would say
the best thing about our houseeven though I really don't like
yard work is the size of ourbackyard and the fact that we
(41:11):
have it fenced in.
It allows us a lot of privacy.
It allows us to host we hosted4th of July here, with plenty of
space out there, our dog's ableto run and go have fun as well.
So I'll say our yards probablythe best thing, because we have
a decent size yard and it sits alittle bit off the road and we
have a.
We have a pretty nice sizebackyard with um, with a fence
(41:34):
that goes the whole way around.
So I'd probably say that'sprobably the best thing that I
would say that we have with ourhouse.
So, but that's going to do itfor this episode about all
things houses.
I hope everyone enjoyedlistening and hearing
perspectives from not just ourthree guests but also you know,
myself as well, so giving youdifferent perspectives on home
ownership.
So a big thank you to Wendy,colin and Andrea for coming on
(41:57):
and sharing a little bit moreabout their homes and their
experiences with home ownership.
So, as always, if you enjoyedthe show, be a friend and tell a
friend, and if you didn't enjoyit, tell them anyways, because
I bet they like it, just becauseyou didn't.
Mrs Fitty signing off and we'llsee you next week.
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