September 3, 2025 • 18 mins
What happens when you spend your entire childhood learning that nowhere is safe and no one stays? Janice Debo was the preacher's kid who got picked on for being "different" - bullied for being holy in a world that punished goodness.
But just when she'd start to find her place, just when she might make a friend, her family would move again. Six different schools. Always the new kid. Always the preacher's daughter. Always the target.
"I think I went to six different schools growing up," Janice remembers. "I was always having to make new friends and didn't know how to stay in touch with other friends."
The cruel mathematics of her childhood: Get bullied for being different. Start to adapt. Begin to belong. Get uprooted. Repeat.
By the time she reached high school, Janice had learned the most devastating lesson a child can learn - that home isn't a place, it's wherever hurts the least. That safety is temporary. That belonging is always borrowed time.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode
, whatever it is.
Can't remember what episodewe're on now, but this is part
two.
I'm with janice debo and thefirst part of this is where
we're talking about how she wentfrom an e-commerce brand to a
coach.
I know it's a bit of a mindsetand a mindset switch, but the
challenges from there, the fear,the understanding that she was
(00:24):
meant for more into a biggerversion of herself.
But I want to backtrack wayback when now you grew up in
north carolina and you weregrowing up the daughter of a
preacher what the hell was thatall?
Because that's just a completeand a foreign world to suddenly
me and whoever's listening tothis going preacher daughter
(00:47):
what the hell, what was thatlike?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
oh it.
You know, when you're a kid youdon't know any different.
You think everything is likethat across the board.
We moved a lot.
My dad was in the methodistchurch and they I don't know
what they do nowadays, but whenI was growing up, if you were,
if you, if the preacherresonated with the audience,
(01:11):
with the congregation, samething, then he would tend to
stay longer.
My dad was a bit of a rebel, soI have to say I kind of got
that independent rebel tendencyfrom him, I'm sure, and
apparently he didn't get alongwith everybody because we moved
and moved.
I am in the process of doing atimeline on all of this, so I go
(01:34):
oh yeah, I forgot about thatone.
I think I went to six differentschools growing up and in doing
so it was I guess it could havebeen stressful.
I was always having to make newfriends and didn't know how to
stay in touch with.
I was a kid, I didn't knowabout staying in touch with
other friends, but moved andmoved and it seemed like when I
(01:57):
was.
One of the toughest ones waswhen I we moved from when I was
in the seventh grade I was.
We spent one year at the placethat I was in the eighth grade
and that was it, just one year,and that's a teenage year.
So I remember that that wasdifficult because I had really
good friends there, made themquickly, but then we got moved
(02:17):
and I went.
Thankfully I'd stay in oneplace for four years.
So my dad did well.
He behaved himself and livedthere for four years through
high school, which was great.
I was in the ninth grade in oneschool, but then the last three
years of high school I was inone school and having the last
three or four years reallyreconnected with some of those
(02:39):
high school chums, and so it wastough in the sense that we were
in the south.
At the south my parents have.
I don't remember a single wordcoming out of their mouth that
was racist or anything.
They I was raised to acceptpeople as people, but I was
(03:00):
raised in a time of segregation.
That was, we were, the culturewas changing and the south yeah,
being a preacher's kid, I gotpicked on.
I got picked in a time ofsegregation, the culture was
changing and the South, yeah.
Being a preacher's kid, I gotpicked on.
I got picked on a little bit.
My siblings may have I don'trecall that they did but I do
remember getting picked on inthe ninth grade especially.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You know I'm coming from a place where I was bullied
as well at school.
I didn't call it bullying backthen, it was called character
building.
It certainly built character,but the whole thing is sacred.
I wasn't in the US, I was inthe UK Completely different
culture, but one you're speakingto now.
It still goes on in certainparts and in America it's hidden
(03:42):
very well in lots of places,but it still happens, yes, but
you've lived through that eraand you've seen the change
happening.
How have you helped enforce thechange, not just within people
you meet but in your business aswell?
Because that is a hell of abackground and a hell of a
journey.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I am really.
I've always accepted people.
Some of my best friends aredifferent skin color, to say the
least, and close friends.
As a matter of fact, one of mybest friends in North Carolina
was there for me two years agowhen my mother was passing and
she would frequently go visit mymom.
She's very African-American buta sweet gal.
(04:23):
Two days I think it was the daybefore my mother passed.
I texted her and I said mom'sright on the edge, Is there any
way you can go over there?
And, personally speaking, Inever even thought twice about
it.
(04:43):
She picked up.
She drove a half hour or 45minutes.
One way to see my mom and getmy mother on camera so I could
say goodbye to her that was.
She's just a very specialfriend and I've never seen color
or culture differences.
I think the biggest culturedifference I saw was when I got
(05:04):
to Oregon.
Now we're talking culture shockfrom North Carolina.
Very big culture shock out here.
Now we're talking culture shockfrom North Carolina very big
culture shock out here.
And one of the funniest thingsI swear I was here for a week or
two at that time and I'mmarried.
That's how I got here.
I got married to someone wholived here.
I'm looking around and I'm likewhat's wrong with this place?
It looks so different to me andit wasn't the landscape, it was
(05:26):
.
The people of color weren'tmissing and I'm like what that's
so different.
But I am so unbiased, I am soaccepting and I don't understand
that whole problem that peoplehave.
So I do my best in my businessand my life to be a positive
(05:47):
influence, to accept people forwho they are on the inside and
forget what they look like.
I've even got a nephew that hasmental problems and I was his
guardian for five years.
I had to learn to be around andhe didn't live with me, but I
had to learn how to adapt andwork around people of nature, of
(06:10):
all kinds of things.
And in the retirement home Imentioned in the last one we did
, I went into that and I wasaround people in their 80s and
90s every day and let me tellyou they've learned their life
lessons and it is worthlistening to your elders.
They were a hoot and a lot offun.
(06:30):
So I guess I grew up respectingmy elders, respecting other
people for who they were, period.
And so in business I do thesame thing.
It doesn't matter to me itabsolutely.
If you're, if you've got a goodcharacter, it's going to be
from here.
If you're going to you've gotbad character, it's going to be
from here, it's not from theoutside.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
So I love that.
The other thing that strikes meas well with this and I love
the conversation about this isyou can really define where
you're going with your ownvalues, and you mentioned it
earlier about making sure yourvalue is aligned with who you
are and also who you want tobecome, and equally, you attract
(07:15):
that backwards.
It comes back to you indifferent ways.
Yes, you mentioned somethingearlier about the culture
shifting.
I think one thing has been lostin a lot of humanity, and this
isn't just North Americaica oranother segregation.
This is in humanity in general,and that's the, the division of
(07:35):
people that are created by whatthey don't understand, and it's
the fear that what they don'tunderstand which makes them
scared and makes them retaliate.
One thing aboutentrepreneurship and working in
these environments as anentrepreneur, as a business
owner, operator or however youdefine yourself fear runs life.
(07:58):
Fear will run you if you allowit, but what will cure it is
coming together withrelationships.
Now you wrote a book and it'sabout connections and confidence
it is.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
can you see this a little bit?
Yep, got it.
Yes, it's called courage,confidence and connections and
it's a journal.
It's actually a journal.
So I'm a big journal, right, Ijournal every day.
I've got a big stack of themright over here next to me.
I've been journaling for over30 years and I took my blogs,
(08:37):
which I have about 160 on mywebsite, janisdepotcom.
So I have about 160 blogs and agood friend of mine and this was
someone from a barteringorganization speaking of
bartering we talked about before, and she said you've got some
barter dollars in your account.
(08:57):
Do you want to use them andwe'll publish a book?
And I was like, no, why not?
And she looked at my websiteand she goes you pick out.
We decided to go with a 90 dayjournal.
I said, well, let's do 120.
She goes no, the book will betoo big.
So we went with 90.
And the way the book is set up,it's one blog and then across
(09:19):
the on the other page, there arequestions that relate to the
blog, that you can relate toyour own life and you can
journal about it and write aboutit.
So it's a practical journal forpersonal development.
And the name Courage,confidence and Connections came
to me one day when I was justwriting a blog and so it came to
(09:40):
me and it struck me reallystrongly that I decided to just
make a note of it and see whereit went.
And next thing I know, lastyear I'm publishing a book by
that name, because my wholejourney has been is relatable to
courage, confidence andconnections, and I can relate
pretty much my whole life onthose three things.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I love that.
So you're now coaching.
You've gone from to, so you'renow coaching.
You've gone from to.
Now you're published author,which is fantastic.
Congratulations.
I know how that journey works.
I don't know how scary it canbe.
Like, oh my god, people aregonna read this.
Oh no.
So I completely understand that.
What do you?
What is the aim of the book?
(10:23):
What do you hope people aregoing to get from this?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Encouragement, which has the word courage in it, of
course, to be encouraged that ifthey're in a bad situation,
there is light on the other side, or if they are looking to make
life changes, that there may besome guidance in there.
So what I wanted to do forpeople is help embolden them in
their life, to get that courage,to build their confidence in
(10:54):
who they are and what they do.
I tell stories a lot.
I'm a storyteller and a lot ofmy blogs are stories or they're
based on music that I reallylike or movies.
I teach life lessons in my workto help people.
It's like a path.
My book can provide a path forpeople and you can choose.
(11:18):
If you don't want to gosequentially, you can look at a
topic and simply go to that pageand say, okay, this applies to
me right now, so read thatparticular one.
But I want people to beencouraged to follow their own
path.
But even though we're followingour own, we can learn from
somebody else's.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That's great advice for anybody who's listening to
this now going.
I don't want to follow that.
That's a model I don't like.
Follow your own path, but youcan just use a tool like the
Courage Conference andConnections Journal to actually
do it.
You obviously coach.
Who are you coaching?
What does this person look like?
Who are you after?
Go on, put your bait in thepond.
Let's have a look, come on.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay, I work with small to medium-sized businesses
and single business owners.
Entrepreneurs of all kinds.
I've worked with about everyindustry not every industry, of
course, but I've worked with awoman in construction.
I've worked with realtorsmultiple times, mortgage brokers
, people in transition from anoffice job to sales, or people
(12:24):
in transition from one job toanother, and they hire me to
help them through transitiontimes.
I've worked with big companiesand small.
I also utilize.
Probably the most fun thing thatpeople love about what I do is
my path elements assessment, andthat is a personality type
(12:47):
assessment based on earth, water, wind and fire.
And the joke is the band earth,wind and fire, but they left
water out.
So what can I say?
But the path elements is anassessment that tells you what
your primary and secondaryelements are and how they play a
part in your life, and it helpsme to assess and work best with
(13:09):
a client.
Let's say they're a fire, I'mwater.
I'm a real high water with whatI do, with who I am.
It shows you who you are, notwhat you do, but it shows you
where you fit the best.
So if I'm working with a fire,they're results oriented.
They want to get it done.
They want to get it done.
They want to get it done fast,like fire, fast and furious.
(13:30):
I work within that to coachthem according to their element
and I think, like a book let'ssay Earth a CPA or a bookkeeper
would fall definitely in Earth.
They are very results orientedbecause they want to see that
bottom line and they want to getit done.
So fire and Earth are resultsoriented.
(13:53):
Wind and water are relationaland of course that explains a
lot about who I am, because I'mvery relational.
But with my elemental assessmentI'm able to determine the best
way to work with teams and helpbuild trust with teams, help
improve communication and helppeople understand on a team,
(14:15):
especially what their coworkerneeds and how they need to be
communicated with.
There are so many problems withcompanies cannot keep employees
and there's a lot of transitiongoing on, and so in that regard
, I can come in with myassessments, find out where the
problems are and coach that teamaccording to how to improve
(14:40):
their communications with eachother.
And maybe that somebody's got aperson in the wrong position.
Maybe they've got an earthperson.
They've got out in the fieldtrying to sell.
Well, that earth personality isnot going to be comfortable
with that, or they've got a windor water sitting behind a desk
trying to do the calculationsand they're going stir crazy,
(15:08):
yeah.
So in looking at thisassessment, I'm able to help a
team and the leadership teamsare really good at this
Determine do you have the rightpeople in the right position and
how can you improve yourcommunications.
And I love the trust buildingeffect with this particular
assessment.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So, people, how can I get a hold of you?
Obviously the website you're onLinkedIn.
Have anywhere else you wish tojust say about where they can
get a hold of you, where theycan get the book, where they can
get the assessment, and how doyou want people to find you?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Janisdebocom, which is here, and you can go there.
You can purchase my book there.
You have to scroll down alittle bit, but there is a free
ebook if you want to get thatfirst, or just go ahead and
order the journal.
If you order directly from mywebsite, you'll get it from me
and it will be signed to you.
So you'll have an author's copy, and I always write a nice
(16:00):
little note to everybody thatbuys one from me directly, and
it is on amazon.
We authors like to self-promotea little bit more, so go to my
website and buy that.
There it's.
It is an awesome book, even ifI say so myself.
I've had a lot of good commentson that, so you can.
Also, if you're interested inbeing on a podcast, baz, your
(16:24):
turn's coming up soon in thefall, I always welcome people to
contact me to be a guest and asfar as coaching on everything,
if you don't know what you want,how you want to work with me,
you can just send me an emailfor free consultation.
I'll sit down with anybody fora half hour 45 minutes and
determine if we're a good fit,if what I have to offer can be
(16:47):
helpful.
My website has a lot ofinformation on it and you can
reach me through that foreverything I love that, janice,
thank you very much for yourtime today.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You love your energy.
It's been a pleasure speakingwith you.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
It's been a pleasure on my end too.
Thank you, Baz You're welcomeTo everybody listening.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Thank you very much.
You make the show, not me.
I'm just part of the furniture.
I just turn up and ask thequestions and I don't even look
pretty on the camera.
So whatever you're here for, Ihope you got what you feel you
came here for.
Please share the episode.
Please inspire someone else'slife.
This is rice from the ashes.
I'm baz porter.
It's a pleasure and it's anhonor.
(17:28):
Have a great day on purpose.
See you soon.
ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode
, whatever it is.
Can't remember what episodewe're on now, but this is part
two.
I'm with janice debo and thefirst part of this is where
we're talking about how she wentfrom an e-commerce brand to a
coach.
I know it's a bit of a mindsetand a mindset switch, but the
challenges from there, the fear,the understanding that she was
(00:24):
meant for more into a biggerversion of herself.
But I want to backtrack wayback when now you grew up in
north carolina and you weregrowing up the daughter of a
preacher what the hell was thatall?
Because that's just a completeand a foreign world to suddenly
me and whoever's listening tothis going preacher daughter
(00:47):
what the hell, what was thatlike?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
oh it.
You know, when you're a kid youdon't know any different.
You think everything is likethat across the board.
We moved a lot.
My dad was in the methodistchurch and they I don't know
what they do nowadays, but whenI was growing up, if you were,
if you, if the preacherresonated with the audience,
(01:11):
with the congregation, samething, then he would tend to
stay longer.
My dad was a bit of a rebel, soI have to say I kind of got
that independent rebel tendencyfrom him, I'm sure, and
apparently he didn't get alongwith everybody because we moved
and moved.
I am in the process of doing atimeline on all of this, so I go
(01:34):
oh yeah, I forgot about thatone.
I think I went to six differentschools growing up and in doing
so it was I guess it could havebeen stressful.
I was always having to make newfriends and didn't know how to
stay in touch with.
I was a kid, I didn't knowabout staying in touch with
other friends, but moved andmoved and it seemed like when I
(01:57):
was.
One of the toughest ones waswhen I we moved from when I was
in the seventh grade I was.
We spent one year at the placethat I was in the eighth grade
and that was it, just one year,and that's a teenage year.
So I remember that that wasdifficult because I had really
good friends there, made themquickly, but then we got moved
(02:17):
and I went.
Thankfully I'd stay in oneplace for four years.
So my dad did well.
He behaved himself and livedthere for four years through
high school, which was great.
I was in the ninth grade in oneschool, but then the last three
years of high school I was inone school and having the last
three or four years reallyreconnected with some of those
(02:39):
high school chums, and so it wastough in the sense that we were
in the south.
At the south my parents have.
I don't remember a single wordcoming out of their mouth that
was racist or anything.
They I was raised to acceptpeople as people, but I was
(03:00):
raised in a time of segregation.
That was, we were, the culturewas changing and the south yeah,
being a preacher's kid, I gotpicked on.
I got picked in a time ofsegregation, the culture was
changing and the South, yeah.
Being a preacher's kid, I gotpicked on.
I got picked on a little bit.
My siblings may have I don'trecall that they did but I do
remember getting picked on inthe ninth grade especially.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You know I'm coming from a place where I was bullied
as well at school.
I didn't call it bullying backthen, it was called character
building.
It certainly built character,but the whole thing is sacred.
I wasn't in the US, I was inthe UK Completely different
culture, but one you're speakingto now.
It still goes on in certainparts and in America it's hidden
(03:42):
very well in lots of places,but it still happens, yes, but
you've lived through that eraand you've seen the change
happening.
How have you helped enforce thechange, not just within people
you meet but in your business aswell?
Because that is a hell of abackground and a hell of a
journey.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I am really.
I've always accepted people.
Some of my best friends aredifferent skin color, to say the
least, and close friends.
As a matter of fact, one of mybest friends in North Carolina
was there for me two years agowhen my mother was passing and
she would frequently go visit mymom.
She's very African-American buta sweet gal.
(04:23):
Two days I think it was the daybefore my mother passed.
I texted her and I said mom'sright on the edge, Is there any
way you can go over there?
And, personally speaking, Inever even thought twice about
it.
(04:43):
She picked up.
She drove a half hour or 45minutes.
One way to see my mom and getmy mother on camera so I could
say goodbye to her that was.
She's just a very specialfriend and I've never seen color
or culture differences.
I think the biggest culturedifference I saw was when I got
(05:04):
to Oregon.
Now we're talking culture shockfrom North Carolina.
Very big culture shock out here.
Now we're talking culture shockfrom North Carolina very big
culture shock out here.
And one of the funniest thingsI swear I was here for a week or
two at that time and I'mmarried.
That's how I got here.
I got married to someone wholived here.
I'm looking around and I'm likewhat's wrong with this place?
It looks so different to me andit wasn't the landscape, it was
(05:26):
.
The people of color weren'tmissing and I'm like what that's
so different.
But I am so unbiased, I am soaccepting and I don't understand
that whole problem that peoplehave.
So I do my best in my businessand my life to be a positive
(05:47):
influence, to accept people forwho they are on the inside and
forget what they look like.
I've even got a nephew that hasmental problems and I was his
guardian for five years.
I had to learn to be around andhe didn't live with me, but I
had to learn how to adapt andwork around people of nature, of
(06:10):
all kinds of things.
And in the retirement home Imentioned in the last one we did
, I went into that and I wasaround people in their 80s and
90s every day and let me tellyou they've learned their life
lessons and it is worthlistening to your elders.
They were a hoot and a lot offun.
(06:30):
So I guess I grew up respectingmy elders, respecting other
people for who they were, period.
And so in business I do thesame thing.
It doesn't matter to me itabsolutely.
If you're, if you've got a goodcharacter, it's going to be
from here.
If you're going to you've gotbad character, it's going to be
from here, it's not from theoutside.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
So I love that.
The other thing that strikes meas well with this and I love
the conversation about this isyou can really define where
you're going with your ownvalues, and you mentioned it
earlier about making sure yourvalue is aligned with who you
are and also who you want tobecome, and equally, you attract
(07:15):
that backwards.
It comes back to you indifferent ways.
Yes, you mentioned somethingearlier about the culture
shifting.
I think one thing has been lostin a lot of humanity, and this
isn't just North Americaica oranother segregation.
This is in humanity in general,and that's the, the division of
(07:35):
people that are created by whatthey don't understand, and it's
the fear that what they don'tunderstand which makes them
scared and makes them retaliate.
One thing aboutentrepreneurship and working in
these environments as anentrepreneur, as a business
owner, operator or however youdefine yourself fear runs life.
(07:58):
Fear will run you if you allowit, but what will cure it is
coming together withrelationships.
Now you wrote a book and it'sabout connections and confidence
it is.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
can you see this a little bit?
Yep, got it.
Yes, it's called courage,confidence and connections and
it's a journal.
It's actually a journal.
So I'm a big journal, right, Ijournal every day.
I've got a big stack of themright over here next to me.
I've been journaling for over30 years and I took my blogs,
(08:37):
which I have about 160 on mywebsite, janisdepotcom.
So I have about 160 blogs and agood friend of mine and this was
someone from a barteringorganization speaking of
bartering we talked about before, and she said you've got some
barter dollars in your account.
(08:57):
Do you want to use them andwe'll publish a book?
And I was like, no, why not?
And she looked at my websiteand she goes you pick out.
We decided to go with a 90 dayjournal.
I said, well, let's do 120.
She goes no, the book will betoo big.
So we went with 90.
And the way the book is set up,it's one blog and then across
(09:19):
the on the other page, there arequestions that relate to the
blog, that you can relate toyour own life and you can
journal about it and write aboutit.
So it's a practical journal forpersonal development.
And the name Courage,confidence and Connections came
to me one day when I was justwriting a blog and so it came to
(09:40):
me and it struck me reallystrongly that I decided to just
make a note of it and see whereit went.
And next thing I know, lastyear I'm publishing a book by
that name, because my wholejourney has been is relatable to
courage, confidence andconnections, and I can relate
pretty much my whole life onthose three things.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I love that.
So you're now coaching.
You've gone from to, so you'renow coaching.
You've gone from to.
Now you're published author,which is fantastic.
Congratulations.
I know how that journey works.
I don't know how scary it canbe.
Like, oh my god, people aregonna read this.
Oh no.
So I completely understand that.
What do you?
What is the aim of the book?
(10:23):
What do you hope people aregoing to get from this?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Encouragement, which has the word courage in it, of
course, to be encouraged that ifthey're in a bad situation,
there is light on the other side, or if they are looking to make
life changes, that there may besome guidance in there.
So what I wanted to do forpeople is help embolden them in
their life, to get that courage,to build their confidence in
(10:54):
who they are and what they do.
I tell stories a lot.
I'm a storyteller and a lot ofmy blogs are stories or they're
based on music that I reallylike or movies.
I teach life lessons in my workto help people.
It's like a path.
My book can provide a path forpeople and you can choose.
(11:18):
If you don't want to gosequentially, you can look at a
topic and simply go to that pageand say, okay, this applies to
me right now, so read thatparticular one.
But I want people to beencouraged to follow their own
path.
But even though we're followingour own, we can learn from
somebody else's.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That's great advice for anybody who's listening to
this now going.
I don't want to follow that.
That's a model I don't like.
Follow your own path, but youcan just use a tool like the
Courage Conference andConnections Journal to actually
do it.
You obviously coach.
Who are you coaching?
What does this person look like?
Who are you after?
Go on, put your bait in thepond.
Let's have a look, come on.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay, I work with small to medium-sized businesses
and single business owners.
Entrepreneurs of all kinds.
I've worked with about everyindustry not every industry, of
course, but I've worked with awoman in construction.
I've worked with realtorsmultiple times, mortgage brokers
, people in transition from anoffice job to sales, or people
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in transition from one job toanother, and they hire me to
help them through transitiontimes.
I've worked with big companiesand small.
I also utilize.
Probably the most fun thing thatpeople love about what I do is
my path elements assessment, andthat is a personality type
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assessment based on earth, water, wind and fire.
And the joke is the band earth,wind and fire, but they left
water out.
So what can I say?
But the path elements is anassessment that tells you what
your primary and secondaryelements are and how they play a
part in your life, and it helpsme to assess and work best with
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a client.
Let's say they're a fire, I'mwater.
I'm a real high water with whatI do, with who I am.
It shows you who you are, notwhat you do, but it shows you
where you fit the best.
So if I'm working with a fire,they're results oriented.
They want to get it done.
They want to get it done.
They want to get it done fast,like fire, fast and furious.
(13:30):
I work within that to coachthem according to their element
and I think, like a book let'ssay Earth a CPA or a bookkeeper
would fall definitely in Earth.
They are very results orientedbecause they want to see that
bottom line and they want to getit done.
So fire and Earth are resultsoriented.
(13:53):
Wind and water are relationaland of course that explains a
lot about who I am, because I'mvery relational.
But with my elemental assessmentI'm able to determine the best
way to work with teams and helpbuild trust with teams, help
improve communication and helppeople understand on a team,
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especially what their coworkerneeds and how they need to be
communicated with.
There are so many problems withcompanies cannot keep employees
and there's a lot of transitiongoing on, and so in that regard
, I can come in with myassessments, find out where the
problems are and coach that teamaccording to how to improve
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their communications with eachother.
And maybe that somebody's got aperson in the wrong position.
Maybe they've got an earthperson.
They've got out in the fieldtrying to sell.
Well, that earth personality isnot going to be comfortable
with that, or they've got a windor water sitting behind a desk
trying to do the calculationsand they're going stir crazy,
(15:08):
yeah.
So in looking at thisassessment, I'm able to help a
team and the leadership teamsare really good at this
Determine do you have the rightpeople in the right position and
how can you improve yourcommunications.
And I love the trust buildingeffect with this particular
assessment.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So, people, how can I get a hold of you?
Obviously the website you're onLinkedIn.
Have anywhere else you wish tojust say about where they can
get a hold of you, where theycan get the book, where they can
get the assessment, and how doyou want people to find you?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Janisdebocom, which is here, and you can go there.
You can purchase my book there.
You have to scroll down alittle bit, but there is a free
ebook if you want to get thatfirst, or just go ahead and
order the journal.
If you order directly from mywebsite, you'll get it from me
and it will be signed to you.
So you'll have an author's copy, and I always write a nice
(16:00):
little note to everybody thatbuys one from me directly, and
it is on amazon.
We authors like to self-promotea little bit more, so go to my
website and buy that.
There it's.
It is an awesome book, even ifI say so myself.
I've had a lot of good commentson that, so you can.
Also, if you're interested inbeing on a podcast, baz, your
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turn's coming up soon in thefall, I always welcome people to
contact me to be a guest and asfar as coaching on everything,
if you don't know what you want,how you want to work with me,
you can just send me an emailfor free consultation.
I'll sit down with anybody fora half hour 45 minutes and
determine if we're a good fit,if what I have to offer can be
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helpful.
My website has a lot ofinformation on it and you can
reach me through that foreverything I love that, janice,
thank you very much for yourtime today.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You love your energy.
It's been a pleasure speakingwith you.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
It's been a pleasure on my end too.
Thank you, Baz You're welcomeTo everybody listening.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Thank you very much.
You make the show, not me.
I'm just part of the furniture.
I just turn up and ask thequestions and I don't even look
pretty on the camera.
So whatever you're here for, Ihope you got what you feel you
came here for.
Please share the episode.
Please inspire someone else'slife.
This is rice from the ashes.
I'm baz porter.
It's a pleasure and it's anhonor.
(17:28):
Have a great day on purpose.
See you soon.
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