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April 30, 2025 18 mins

 Sabrina Johnson’s Radical Mindset Rebuild After Losing Everything 

What do you do when life takes everything from your home, your health, your identity and dares you to rise anyway?

In this gripping second chapter with Sabrina Johnson, we uncover what happened after the trauma. After the silence was broken. After the truth was spoken.

From meeting her future husband while on a date with his friend to losing every possession in a house fire that spared only their infant son's room, Sabrina’s resilience was forged in fire literally.

Left with just $348 and a newborn, Sabrina and Strider began again from scratch in New York. But the real battle was still ahead: three different cancers, a brutal fall, gallbladder disease, and years of recovery. That’s when Sabrina “flipped the switch.”

She refused to be defined by illness, and rewired her entire life one small, defiant habit at a time.

Guided by Atomic Habits, hypnotherapy, and a soul-level refusal to settle, Sabrina rebuilt not just her health but her purpose. Now, she teaches others how to unlock the 95% of the mind that holds us hostage or sets us free.

If you’ve ever felt like your comeback was impossible… Sabrina is living proof it’s not.

You’ll hear:

  • The wild way she met her husband (hint: awkward first date with the wrong guy)
  • The fire that took everything but left them just enough to rebuild
  • How cancer and trauma became portals to purpose
  • Why tiny, consistent shifts can outrun even the biggest breakdowns
  • How she helps others rewire their subconscious and reclaim their power

This isn’t a podcast. This is a manual for becoming who you were meant to be no matter what you've survived.


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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Rice, and the
Ashes Burnout to Brilliance.
This is part two, and I'm herewith Sabrina Johnson.
We left off with a verycourageous story, but a story
that quite personally and Ithink will resonate with so many
people the courage of oneperson stepping forward and

(00:22):
speaking her truth.
Her truth matters not just youand I, but potentially millions
of people, and I want to honorher and honor the people who
have had the courage and arespeaking up.
And if you're not just yet,know you're not alone, royce,

(00:42):
and the Ashes is about peoplecoming together and sharing real
stories.
So thank you, sabrina, forsharing that.
Let's go back into where yougot married and your life
pivoted somewhat, and it was awhile ago, 25 years, but you
don't look anywhere near the age.
Suddenly, he's not adding that.

(01:04):
What's your secret?
Because is it aloe vera?
Is it l'oreal?
What go on?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
yeah, I put on lotion okay, every single day, morning
and night.
That's important.
But I eat healthy and Iexercise that's helping what?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
okay, so let's go back into how you met your
husband, how that came about.
You've had obviously you've hada child.
You've had a couple kids.
They're all grown up, I take itnow they are.
What was that journey?
Like something incredible, butobviously relationships are
straining, yeah, but you'restill together, that's.
That says a lot about thecharacter, his character and

(01:45):
your commitment to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, we actually.
It's funny how we met, becausewe grew up in a similar area,
but we never met each other whenwe were younger.
And we found out later down theline that we had a lot of
really close friends when wewere younger as well, but never
met.
And it was when I was 20.

(02:10):
Nope, I wasn't even 20 yet.
We met when I was 18.
We're going to call it 18.
So I was, coincidentally, datinghis friend at the time and I
was set up on a blind date withhis friend for a wedding.

(02:35):
My friend was getting marriedand so when I showed up at the
wedding, I was this, hisfriend's date, and that's where
I was introduced to him at first.
And his friend and I we talkedand we dated over the phone long
distance because they alsolived in North Carolina and I

(02:56):
lived in New York.
So I went to visit them inNorth Carolina and when I went
to visit his friend, who I wasdating maybe three months maybe
it wasn't serious or anythinglike that he was sick and, long
story short, he didn't spendtime with me or do anything with

(03:17):
me the entire time I was there,and so my husband's name is
Strider and that left him withthe task of showing me around
the area, getting to know me and, as you can imagine, getting to
know me we just clicked.

(03:37):
It was a completely differentfeeling from his friend.
I was like no, this guy is.
He's serious, he's very honest,he's open, he's caring and, of
course, I found him attractive.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
So it's always helpful.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yes, so it did cause a little bit of a rift there
with his friend, but we werehonest and open with him and
what was going on and so, yeah,they made up.
They did their bro thing behindmy back.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Didn't mind anyway.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, and we continued to date and eventually
we moved in together and that'show we started.
We lived in North Carolina forabout three years.
From there we moved to Kentuckybecause he was offered a job as
a truck driver with his uncleand that was supposed to be good
money back then.

(04:30):
And so while he was drivingtruck, I was going to college,
and that's when I got pregnant.
When I got halfway throughcollege, I found out I was
pregnant.
Not only that, we had a housefire.
We lost everything.
The only room that was untouchedin the entire house was my

(04:55):
son's room.
We felt that was a blessing,because he was three months old.
He needed everything.
We did not need what we had.
We didn't care about that.
We didn't have much.
We didn't care about that.
We didn't have much.
We did have a savings about$348, I believe was what it was

(05:20):
and yeah, between there and $460.
But we took that money and wemoved back to New York where
there was family who couldsupport us after not being able
to find another place inKentucky to rent out.
So we cut our losses short anddid that.
Now we ended up staying withfamily, for it was about a year

(05:43):
until his mother said hey, canyou move in with me Because I
need your help.
I'm getting older, I have afarm, I have a three-bedroom
house.
I don't need that room, justbuild me a mother-in-law house
on the property and I'll be good.
So we did that for about sixyears and then, of course, we

(06:03):
finally got our own place, andthat was around the same time.
I had my daughter actuallybecause I got pregnant at his
mother's house and then we movedin literally the day I was
going to have her.
So it's like own house.
My husband had a lot of work todo, a lot of work to do, but

(06:25):
he's a good man, so he made sureto take care of everything and
get the house safe.
So from there it was reallygood.
For quite a while we raised ourbeautiful children.
My daughter is 20.
My son is 21.
He's in the Air Force, mydaughter is a cosmetologist and,
yeah, so very proud of my kidsWould not take that back for

(06:49):
anything in my life.
Trying to think of around theyear it was, I believe it was
around 2008.
I'm getting too specific withtime periods.
Sorry that's how my head works.
I ended up getting really sick,so I had many different health
challenges, but I ended up witha bad gallbladder, I had

(07:13):
cervical cancer, I had skincancer and actually another form
of skin cancer.
There was three forms of cancerthat I was having to battle
through this period of time Abad gallbladder and I had also
fallen 16 feet off of a ladderand injured my neck, shoulder,

(07:35):
knee, hip, back.
So that was a challengingperiod.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
So you went from fire cancer falling cancer falling.
What on earth made everythingstill stick together?
Because all of that on its ownis challenging, but having kids

(08:05):
and a husband trying to holdeverything together, that must
have been huge.
Yes, you had your husband'ssupport, because Shredder sounds
like he's got his head screwedon a bit more than most people.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
But that shows drive within you, sabrina.
Yeah, that shows it's beyondgrit, it's beyond determination.
You are on a mission.
What is really driving thatmission?
Because I think that's why,from what I'm hearing, you do

(08:42):
what you do today with mindsetand the hypnosis thing.
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, it is.
When you go through so manydifferent challenges, there
comes a period of time where youjust get tired of dealing with
sicknesses, doctor'sappointments, recovery,
medications, yes and you justflip.
I don't know a better way toexplain that.

(09:09):
You flip the switch from I amnot doing this anymore.
I am not doing this anymore.
Instead, I'm going to moveforward and figure out a way out
of this and have a good life.
And I had a lot of time in bedand in recovery to learn, so I

(09:31):
was reading a lot of differentbooks, and that's why the
mindset was becoming sointriguing, because I learned
that there were things that Icould do to help me recover that
I didn't even know was possible.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
What was your favorite book that you would
recommend to somebody Stands outabove all else.
I'm just intrigued becausethere's so many of them.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Honestly, and you're probably going to laugh at this,
I would recommend Atomic Habitsno.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I wouldn't laugh.
I've read the books.
It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
That was my absolute favorite book because it taught
me how to change the bad habitsthat I had and how I could just
take small steps to move forwardmake small steps and for what
you just said there is soimportant and they're not,
they're underrated.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
People are looking for these massive wins.
The massive wins come, but theydon't often come very rarely in
my experience all at once.
The small steps make the bigsteps possible.
The small, incremental, littleshifts in your day.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Just they layer up and then they tend to snowball
and you've experienced it.
So, moving from Kentucky withnothing, essentially, apart from
your son of belongingseverybody's safe, thankfully
into New York.
What possessed you to become anentrepreneur?

(11:11):
Because sales corporate worldfairly stable-ish.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
To oh, I just want to be an entrepreneur and have no
stability, complete uncertainty,chaos and a bit of fun.
So that was a huge switch foryou Chaos and a bit of fun.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
So that was a huge switch for you.
Well, you have probably learnedby now I thrive in chaos.
A little bit.
Honestly.
It was the same type of changein sales.
I was sick of dealing withpeople not listening to me and
taking my advice and respectingwhat I had to say.
I'd gone as high as I could go.

(11:51):
I wasn't going to go any higher, and so I had to do something
for myself, and that's reallywhat triggered me to get out of
sales.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I want to speak transition out of sales now,
because sales is all psychologyand finding out what the problem
is.
And then there's a whole thingaround oh, I've bought people
with it.
So what do you do nowspecifically to solve people's
problems?
Because hypnosis is a widerange of things.
I I'm not hitting up, I'm nothypnotherapist.

(12:24):
I don't practice it, I have it.
I've been under hypnotherapyand it works.
But what made you choosehypnotherapy and mindset?
Because they're hand in hand.
But it's a very select modality, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (12:39):
It is, and there's a few different reasons for that.
One of the main ones is beingable to work with people who are
in similar situations as I was,where either they've been
through trauma or badexperiences in their childhood
that they're having troublegetting past, or maybe they're

(13:01):
stuck in their career and theyjust want to get out and they
don't know how to move forward.
Those are all individuals thatI thrive working with, because I
understand what you're goingthrough.
More than likely I've beenthrough a similar situation.
So that's one of the reasons,but another is I love genuinely
connecting with people andtalking with them and helping

(13:24):
them, so it's my pleasure to beable to do that.
But hypnotherapy specificallybecause it gets deep down into
the subconscious, where 95% ofyour behavior belongs, and when
you make a decision to goforward into your day, your
subconscious is dictating that,whether you know it or not.

(13:46):
That's why it's called thesubconscious.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
It helps you to function on autopilot, yeah so
if someone wanted to have aconversation with you, get hold
of you.
Where's the best place to go?
Obviously, the links are below,but I just want you to say it
for the people who can hear itand listen to the audio part of
it, because they're just lazyanyway, please.
Can you, please tell me where Ican find you?

(14:12):
Where's the best place to holdyou?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
They can find me on LinkedIn.
That is the absolute best place.
I'm always there.
I also have a podcast so theycan go to my YouTube and find
that and connect with me there,and I also have my business
website.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
So what's the podcast called?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Sabrina Sends Podcast .

Speaker 1 (14:36):
And what's the website called?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
NextWinLLC.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
So for them, people who don't hear that
NextWinLLCcom.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yes, okay, that site.
Sorry, it will be that site.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
And then the YouTube Sabrina what is it?
Sabrina podcast.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Sabrina Sense podcast .

Speaker 1 (15:03):
The LinkedIn is the place that I would always
recommend to connect withanybody serious.
I will assure you, havingmultiple conversations with
Sabrina, she is serious.
If you are wanting somethingalong the lines of hypnotherapy,
please I do urge you to go andcheck her out Before we wrap up

(15:24):
today.
Is there anything you want toadd, any tidbits, any advice you
want to give anybody Before wedepart and say goodbye to our
audience, who are amazing, thankyou very much for being here.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I would love to Honestly.
I always tell my clients youare not broken, you are human.
We just need to walk youthrough the process of helping
you to repair the things thatyou think are broken, so we can
do that.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Awesome.
Sabrina, I want to acknowledgeyou and thank you for your
kindness, your authenticity andyour love here.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
It is.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
when I say this, I don't think widely, I do mean it
.
It is truly an honor to havesome interaction with you and
learn more about you and yourjourney and meet individuals who
have gone through challengingtimes but come built smelling of
roses and willing to help otherpeople, Because I truly believe

(16:27):
that humanity needs more ofthat.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
So thank you very much Thank you, and it's really
a pleasure connecting with youand an honor to be here.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
The honor, as I said before, is mine and I truly mean
that From my listeners.
Thank you very much.
Please share this message.
This was part two of SabrinaJohnson's interview and I'm
looking forward to sharing muchmore time with her and I'll get
into another, even more formyself.
Share the message, enjoy theshow, leave a comment, share and

(17:00):
change someone's life.
This is me signing off.
Thank you very much, sabrina,and from my audience, I will
speak to you and see you verysoon.
Take care bye.
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