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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Ladies and gentlemen,
welcome back to another episode
of Rise From the Ashes podcast.
I'm your host, Baz Porter, andit is a pleasure to be here
today with my next guest.
Her name is Rachel Risk and sheis an awesome human being.
Hell of a story, Rachel.
Please say hello to everybodyand tell everybody who you are
(00:22):
and a bit about what you do.
There's two questions there whoyou are and what you do.
They're not the same thing.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
How much time should
I take?
I don't want to go over Take asmuch time as you wish.
Okay, first of all, thank you somuch for the opportunity to be
on this podcast.
My name is Rachel Resk.
I'm a life and confidence coach.
Quick note I do have a stutter,not a big deal If I pause or
I'm in awe, just a little bitmore.
(00:50):
It's just part of me and who Iam, where I came from, I don't
know.
I'll just start.
So I'm actually one of threekids and stuff, the only girl
and the youngest.
So I have two older brothers.
Each of us are approximatelyone year apart.
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Ma raised us as a single mom.
Though dad was there, he wasn'treally there present and
unfortunately actually, as wefound out about 13 years old or
something from dad, ma didn'treally want kids.
So I guess I grew up in.
I mean, though we obviously hadfood and stuff, you know, water
, everything else.
What we did not have was wasguidance, love, hugs, anything,
basically.
So I was like I was the personwho would go home and stuff like
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to ask mom if we could go outto eat or out to a friend, and
mom wouldn't even be home at all.
So us three kids we raisedourselves.
I think kids and stuff likefall into two roles.
So my role out of verse three.
David was the oldest kid andstuff.
He was the, the golden child.
(02:02):
So Ma really liked David andstuff, and David was full of
charm and stuff.
Kevin was the, the unfavoredchild.
I was not there, but Myroactually became the caretaker,
leader, guider, protector andeverything else keeper of
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secrets, like how to get thingsdone, because, like I mentioned
I mean, though, we live with MaMa wasn't really there at all.
We didn't have family dinnersor anything, but anyway, I went
away to college.
I actually went away as far asI possibly could.
Now, though, mom wasn't reallythere for us and dad wasn't
(02:47):
present in our orbit.
Dad actually was a doctor, sodad had funds.
I, being the smart, bold one orwhatever else, felt that there
was a need to use those funds,so I basically went to school as
far away as I possibly couldfrom home.
That was actually.
It was Washington DC.
(03:08):
I grew up in Illinois, which is, in fact, where I'm still at.
I feel like I'm rambling alittle bit.
Where do you think I should gowith this?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
No, I think that's a
good way to come into it.
What were the challenges of youwhen you were growing up with
two elder siblings?
Because I'm part of it, I'm theelder.
I'm the opposite around, I'mthe eldest of two and I have two
other sisters, so it's just aninteresting contrast.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I think, and, like I
mentioned, we didn't really have
a great time as kids, and so Iwe had.
What we had, basically, was theabsence of so though I had two
brothers, they weren't reallyhome either, right, so Ma wasn't
around.
They weren't around, so Ireally don't think that they had
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much of an influence and,unlike some families, we didn't
necessarily band together.
So we each raised ourselves.
If something hit the fan orwhatever, they would come to me,
but outside of that we were onour own.
But I think perhaps one of themajor influences on me was my
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stutter.
Dad unfortunately said that hewas embarrassed.
Ma didn't really talk about it,but they certainly spent quite
a lot of money and stuff to fixme.
That was definitely top oftheir mind and stuff, but I
could not be fixed, at least asa kid and stuff.
So I guess what I did was Ishrunk myself, right, so I
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shrunk myself at home.
I certainly shrunk myself atschool and out, and I think when
you have something and, by theway, I don't like to call it a
disability or something big oranything, right, so I tend to
call it my speech, but when youhave something that is not
visibly apparent, I believe thatit's harder.
(05:05):
And it's harder because you canmake like a great impression
right, get good grades, lookgood, laugh and joke and
everything else right.
But then boom, it'll pop up andyou get caught up with Rachel
or like a full block where wecan't get anything out, and I
think that was very difficult.
(05:26):
And in Iceberg, I actually gotinvolved on the board of a group
it's called the NationalStuttering Association.
I used to run job searchworkshops there.
I wrote like a job searchpamphlet and I think, and we
used to talk about somethingit's called the iceberg and
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iceberg is like for covert whichwould be me, by the way
stutterers, who can often hideit, or it's not that bad.
We are so in our head all thetime oh my god, when is it going
to pop up?
And when it does, I'm going totry to hide it, try to insert it
or pause no, it's just so truestuff or change a word, and it
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becomes exhausting.
I would almost rather be somedays in in overt stutter, so you
don't have to constantly maskor feel like you have to mask.
I think.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I think that had a
big influence on me I love this
topic because the my old theaudience I know can relate to
this and not feeling as if theywere being counted or heard.
I've spent, I can relate to it,certainly going up through the
era that I grew up in the 90sand 80s and the rest of it,
(06:49):
where we were looked, I was justcalled thick and I don't
stutter.
I do stutter but we I have adhdand dyslexia.
Back then that was just alethal combination and I went
through the stigma.
I know lethal combination and Iwent through the stigma.
I know lots of people that havegone through the stigma of
you're just thick, you're stupid, they don't relate to you, but
(07:11):
it's not because you are anyless than any other person in
the world.
It's because you're not thenormality that they were taught
to be.
I view that as a good thing.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Can I add something?
I think I know you're from theUK and stuff, but I think both
here and there, and probablylike the whole world, we are
encouraged right to think thatthe norm is more perfect than it
is.
So I think that we right andperhaps whoever's going to hear
this are more the norm.
Right.
We all have something, whetherit's my speech or your dyslexia
(07:49):
that's a hard word to saybecause it's got all like those
letters going on there but weall have something.
Or we're shy, or we tend togain weight, or we're awkward or
all sorts of crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
People, people yes,
completely, rachel.
And people don't fit in the boxthat they're used to.
So you become the problem.
Well, in fact, personally, thatthey're the problem because
they're not allowing the expanseof humanity to come in and say
you're different.
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I want to explore thatdifference and understand it.
So there's common ground thereand people aren't aware to have
that.
They don't want to have themconversations because they don't
know how to approach it.
It's when someone says to you afew months ago, hours ago, I was
speaking to somebody and theysaid I didn't want to, I didn't
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want to tell them.
Well, why not?
What's preventing you fromtelling somebody your truth?
And it's the confidence thatnormal or average society has
implied on them to be in a wayof being to suit their narrative
, whether it be corporate,whether it be childhood
(09:04):
narratives, whether it beadolescent narratives, gen X,
gen Z, whatever they've come upwith next, I know, but it's not
allowing people like yourself tostep into who they are and
people like you and me beingafraid because of what other
people think.
Only as we become older do werealize hold on a minute, I
(09:27):
don't care what anybody elsethinks.
And it's a different powerstance to go from there and
service in the world, nowgrowing up.
What happened in your?
How did that form who you arein your early years and what you
went into?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
well, there's the
thing what was it in your job?
The inverted my job.
Okay, I think I really hit sortof a wall and stuff after our
college get it, because it gotreal like you had to go out and
actually find a job and stuffand and my house was like the
kind of house where once, likeyou left for school, they double
(10:07):
and triple locked and all sortsof stuff like the front door,
so you couldn't come back.
So I had to get a job.
But anyway, I think again Ijust shrunk, I lowered my
standards.
And actually one thing comes upwhen I was probably about 30.
Of course I'm not that mucholder, it's a little joke.
But I was going for an interviewand there's this guy.
He had a worse stutter than Idid, but he was the interviewer
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and I was like the intervieweeand what I saw was that even
though his stutter was overtlyworse, right like he would block
and repeat words and do allsorts of runabout, substitute a
word here and there, which Icould tell, because I do the
same thing sometimes he wasconfident and I learned well
(10:55):
actually in school I learnedvery quickly that no matter how
smart you are, how great yourgrades are, if you do not speak
up in class or speak up in life.
People do not think that youare that smart.
So I always wanted to make apoint, to speak up.
But, yeah, so in work Ibasically shrunk myself over
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like the first few years.
But then I got out of it.
In fact, I was going to write apost, have not written it yet,
and I was going to say somethinglike they were never looking at
you.
You're always free to do whatyou want, right?
Because we always think or atleast I'm always thinking oh,
somebody's looking at me, Idon't have the right outfit on,
or they heard me pause or say,and you start to shrink for fear
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that you're going to be judgedor ridiculed or whatever else.
But really most of the world,even if you fall flat on the
street, you just want to keepwalking.
Life is short.
I think that's what was drilledinto me as a kid not by
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somebody, but based on how I wasraised, was that life is short,
and I have a quote.
It says fortune favors the bold, so just go out there and do it
.
If you fall, it's okay.
You only fall nine times.
Pick yourself up ten.
And then as a kid I used towork in I guess not a kid.
(12:23):
I couldn't really find a realjob, so I went to work in social
work, in hospice.
The biggest regret of peoplewas not what they did, it's what
they did not.
And there would be theseheartbreaking stories about like
things would seem simplenowadays, that they just didn't
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try Right, they didn't call thatguy or that girl, or they
didn't effort business or go ona trip.
It's like heartbreaking stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It reminds me of a
book I cannot remember what it
was called or the author, but itwas written by a girl who was
in a similar line of work and itwas all about the regrets of
what people on their latterhospice care years, for whatever
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reason, were there.
And she actually interviewedpeople and read a book about it.
And what you're bringing upgives me goosebumps.
True, because what you'redelving into here, rachel, is
the regret of what if?
And it's the book actuallyexplains the intro to it I have
(13:38):
read it, just can't remember thename of it where they have all
of these opportunities andthey're sat in the bed or
they're laying in the bed theirfinal sort of days or weeks and
they're like what if I had havedone this?
What would have my life beenlike?
And you have stepped into thatin a lot of ways.
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Instead of the what if thing,you've gone, I'm going to do it
anyway and find out.
Yeah, that's courage, that'scommendable, because you're
walking the walk which otherpeople are so scared to take.
Yeah, and you're not going tobe as one of these people
looking back and then sayingwhat if?
Because you've done it.
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And that's why I like peoplelike you because you're really
stepping into the authenticityof who you are at your core.
Despite what others said,despite the upbringing and the
naysayers and your parentstrying to fix you, you realized
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at some point along that journeyyou don't need fixing because
there's nothing broken.
What was that part like for you, that epiphany moment?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I think I did go.
I did do all sorts of crazystuff.
I went around the world, Ibought rental properties, did
all sorts of I actually spoke me, by the way, in front of 400
people.
I started two Toastmastersgroups.
When I worked full-time, I usedto be a team lead and stuff and
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talk all the time.
But I think what came to me Ihave a very strong faith is that
God doesn't make junk and weall have gifts that are all
unique to us and to the rest ofthe world and our purpose in
part is to use those gifts rightand we set our goal and God
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directs our steps.
So, whatever we've gone through, our purpose is to get through
that thing and to look back,learn from it and pick it up and
help other people.
So I guess when I hit a hardtime which I certainly have, by
the way I don't see it as badand it doesn't reflect on me,
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right.
I'm like like, oh my god, Imust be a failure or horrible
person or whatever.
It's just us how you learn, andI found when you don't learn
something the first time, it'llkeep on coming up.
But I guess, yeah, that's, Ifeel I accept me as I am.
(16:20):
Actually I teach in partsconfidence.
There's no confidence if you donot have self-awareness and
self-acceptance.
So there's no confidencewithout that.
But with that you can dowhatever you want, right?
Because it really doesn'tmatter if it doesn't work out
that time, because you'll justgo on and learn.
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I have a quote.
I work once a week on a suicidehotline I think I shared this
with you last time and they havea great quote.
It's on the wall.
It says it'll all be okay inthe end.
If it's not okay, it's not theend.
And that is how I live my lifeand it's a knowledge.
So I know that and believe that.
I just want to say one morething, right, Because I know you
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want to say something.
But I think there's a bigdifference between a knowledge
and belief.
When you believe something, itchanges how you act, right.
When you know something, it canjust be recite some facts or
whatever else.
But I know that it'll all beokay in the end, and so I just
keep on going.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
This is one of the
things I was going to say.
This is one of the things Ilove about you, because you're
taking learnings that you'veexperienced through your journey
and you're not just applyingthem to help other people.
You're self-applying them.
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They're your principles withinyour life.
Quotes for a powerful thing,but they're only powerful when
they're actualized.
They're not powerful set on awall, looking pretty framed.
They're only powerful if youapply them.
One of the quotes that I loveand you know you've heard this
one what is seeking?
What you are seeking is seekingyou.
Yeah, and it's true if youapply it and allow the law of
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reciprocity and the natural lawsthat follow that to actually
actualize in your life.
Otherwise, it doesn't work.
What's been your biggestchallenge in your journey so far
?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
because I want to go
into a pivotal challenge so, by
the way, I think this is sharedchallenge right several years
ago and stuff, I had all theserental homes.
So just a quick backstory.
So the mom wasn't really thereand dad wasn't there at all.
Dad had funds.
(18:44):
We didn't get any money fromhim, but dad did pay for college
and things like that.
But I learned early on thatmoney buys freedom of choice.
So as a young adult I boughtall sorts of rental properties
and stuff like this and then Ididn't buy them correctly.
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A market downturn happened andall my properties went into
foreclosure and that was adefining moment because it
basically pulled the rug outfrom under me and I realized it
(19:27):
was a very frightening thing andmy, I realized that all of my
safety was like tied up intowhat I had asset wise or income
wise or whatever else and it wasa rude awakening right.
But I learned that really I ammy biggest asset and I don't
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need to grasp on to all thesevarious things.
And I think that was actuallyone of the times where I really
started like to look at me andturn to self acceptance.
I've since.
I've since built it all back,but it was to have it all ripped
away from you right your safetyand security and then like to
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realize that it wasn't reallythere in the first place, that
you have safety and securityinside.
So I think that was one of thethings.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I love that.
That's a huge message forpeople, For those listeners who
are now listening to this going.
What the hell had just happened.
What Rachel was speaking intois the safety and security of
her own well-being, but wasoutside the reliance, was
(20:42):
outside of her control right soanybody with assets, property,
land.
That's never safe.
It's assumed safe until youhave something like it was in
2008 by any chance it was 2008,2009, 2010 yeah, all my assets
basically just zipped away yeah,we there's a lot of people in
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the world experienced, yeah, amassive crash.
It was the last big recessionish that was had a global impact
and it was very much unexpectedfor the majority of the world.
Some people knew about it orhad inklings of it.
The majority of people didn't,and I certainly wasn't in the
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space that I'm doing now whenthat happened, so it didn't
really affect me.
But it's the safety.
So, if you can relate to thesafety of something that is not
truly safe, but then come backinto the journey of what is safe
, what safety is, whatconfidence is and set yourself
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up every single day for that,that's an empowerment message
and you've got to remember.
It's rachel's journey frombeing a disregarded sibling with
two other brothers who are botholder than her into
self-awareness, calmness,confidence.
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But a lot of entrepreneurs thesedays, everything's stacked
against you.
The corporate world is stackedagainst you.
Finance world is stackedagainst you.
The marketing world iscertainly stacked against you
and we won't even go down thatroad.
But what rachel's done isremarkable and these are why I
like interviewing people andhaving conversations with people
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like rachel, because she is theresult of everything that's
been stacked against her and, inpart.
I want you we're going to gointo the ascent and what's
really going on, what all theselessons applied actually look
like.
Do you have any advice beforewe leave today for part one, for
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the audience and what thebiggest takeaway you want people
to have from this part?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
My biggest takeaway
is that it'll all be okay in the
end.
If it's not okay, it's not theend, right?
So just fall down nine timesand get up 10.
And I think also is that it'sso easy not to get up if you are
alone, and I encourage peopleright to reach out.
Nobody's perfect.
(23:17):
Everybody has something.
Everybody's going throughsomething.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
what the world needs
more now is raw, real, authentic
talk I love that message and Iyou are 100 correct from my
listeners.
Thanks very much for tuning in.
Please download, subscribe andshare this message.
It's not for me.
It's about rachel and herascent into the world, and I
(23:43):
promise you, when this lands inthe right place, you will change
someone's life.
Rachel, I will see you on parttwo my audience.
Thank you very much, it's apleasure and I will see you very
shortly.
Have an amazing day on purpose.
I'm bass porter and this isrice and ashes podcast great,
thank you.