Former Navy bomb disposal technician Brian Muka reveals the shocking truth about executive burnout, nervous system dysregulation, and trauma recovery that's sabotaging high-performing leaders worldwide.
After experiencing what he calls "the avalanche" losing his military career trajectory in Iraq Brian discovered why leadership burnout, chronic stress, and emotional exhaustion have nothing to do with workload and everything to do with nervous system hijacking .
This episode covers:
• Burnout recovery strategies for overwhelmed executives and entrepreneurs
• PTSD healing techniques including Wim Hof breathwork and cold therapy
• Nervous system regulation methods for high-stress professionals
• Leadership trauma and why successful people crash and burn
• Military transition challenges and finding purpose after service
• Emotional intelligence training for stress management
• Fear management techniques and Brian's "Muka's Law" principle
• Mental health recovery from suicidal ideation to thriving
• Workplace stress solutions and breaking the white-knuckle leadership cycle
• Spiritual awakening and soul-aligned business practices
Keywords: stress management, anxiety relief, leadership development, mental health awareness, trauma therapy, mindfulness practices, resilience training, emotional regulation, peak performance, burnout prevention
Brian's journey from military service member struggling with combat trauma to becoming "The Freedom Sherpa" proves that personal development, nervous system healing, and authentic leadership can transform your relationship with fear, stress, and success.
Perfect for: CEOs, entrepreneurs, military veterans, healthcare workers, first responders, executives, and anyone experiencing chronic stress, leadership fatigue, or high-achiever burnout .
Connect with Brian: LinkedIn | Freedom Sherpa | Nervous system coaching | Leadership consulting
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode
of Rice Meal.
I'm your host, baz Borsa.
I'm joined today with amarvelous human being.
He's becoming a friend and alsoa business partner in the
future.
His name is Brian and I'm goingto ask him to pronounce his
second name because I'm terriblewith people's names and I don't
want to mess it up.
(00:20):
Brian, please tell people yourname, who you are and what you
do in the world.
Let's introduce world.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Awesome, brian Muka, at your humble service.
What I do in the world, myfavorite thing to help people
awaken their latent gifts,spiritual gifts, leadership
gifts, those types of things.
It's hard-earned.
Through Jonah the whale, I ranfrom it.
I had the belly of the beastuntil I couldn't anymore.
(00:49):
When life got turned around,I'm like hogging out of the boat
.
It's here for me.
It's been this grand surrenderexperiment First the end of one
experiments for me, and thenwith my Tai Chi Gong master,
ajit.
I told him what I do.
He goes cool.
The thing you came to learn onearth is the thing you get to
teach.
We'll talk a little bit aboutmy avalanche.
(01:10):
I wrote a book about it and howto be with people during the
grand life reset.
I refer to it as the avalancheloss of limb, loss of job, loss
of relationship, those types ofthings, and what a gift that is.
Invisibility is a big part.
How can I find gratitude forthe discomfort?
There's treasure in there, sothat's what I help people find.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I love that, bro, and that's a different view on what
most people in the world have,because a lot of people go oh my
god, this is happening to me.
World is falling apart, this isgoing on, this is going on.
They do what 99% falling apart,this is going on, this is going
on.
And they do what 99% ofeverybody else in the world do
is stack their problems, thenthey compound, and then they
have a nervous breakdown and getdisease, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, if I'd be so bold, I want to share Mucha's
Law with you.
The Parkinson's Law is the sizeof the deadline.
Expands to the deadline You'veheard that before, I'm sure
because law is fear.
Expands to the size container.
I allow.
It therefore keeps your smalland useful or war in there.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah on the journey to where you are.
It wasn't always like that.
Can I take you back to wherethe actual avalanche, or just
before the avalanche happened,as you so eloquently put it?
What were you doing?
What was your life?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
like Airs on fire back then.
This is back in 2008.
My first combat at the planet.
I took a team to Iraq.
My chief father was dying ofcancer and I knew I needed to
send him home so he could bewith his dad.
(02:52):
I couldn't bear the thought ofAaron losing his life.
Distracted, cutting wires andIEDs, and I knew that as soon as
I made that decision my careerwas going to get really hard.
I used my senior enlistedadvisor.
As I look back in, my careerwas going to get really hard.
I used my senior enlistedadvisor.
As I look back in time, I fellon my sword in that.
I've got my fair share offuck-ups and junior officer
stuff.
(03:13):
Four weeks later, I wasreassigned to night watch while
my friends got to operate Docool guy, explosive wardens,
disposal, bomb technician stuffwith some really advanced
special forces guys.
I was doing PowerPoint slides,so I got the worst of that.
Saturdays was a down daytempo-wise, so I got the
mornings off.
I'd go running.
(03:34):
I was training for a marathon.
When I got back to the Statesin May, I was on a 20-mile run,
camp Spiker.
I remember feeling my toes overthe edge of the hardball and
the desert sand just on theother side.
I just stayed in the desert fora really long time.
I thought I'd come back it was12 minutes, real long and then I
(03:55):
heard God's voice.
I have a special mission foryou.
I turned around and there was apallet of water right behind me
.
Didn't notice it was there,grabbed the leader, brought it
home and it was interesting.
I go to church every Saturdayand it was neat just being like
350 miles away from where theseBible verses were coming from in
(04:16):
the New Testament.
That started the avalanche.
I got another team Two.
Before we deployed, my boss,chris, called me into his office
.
I knew what this was.
I was still unprepared.
Brian, I've lost a lot of sleepover this.
You're not the man to take ateam to Afghanistan.
That was our ranger mission,the most dangerous job that we
(04:38):
Afghanistan.
That was our ranger mission,the most dangerous job that we
had.
He was right.
I forgot that.
I'm Brian Mooka.
That started my journey.
I spent another nine months inthe Navy, got to work with Talia
Gershon.
She was our mental healthprofessional.
She became my life coach.
When I got off the Jewish army,I did a year of contract work
working with lieutenants andcaptains in the army that were
(04:58):
bomb technicians.
The mantra was like do itbetter than I did.
Guys, here's all the mistakes Imade.
Don't make this.
I made a great course.
I spent six years in medicalsales Pretty unfulfilling.
I liked the challenge of it.
At first I went to sales forthe year.
As soon as I did that, Isomething else.
(05:19):
And then you're looking at thissomething next, the freedom
sherpa, teaching people how tofear really unworthiness, like I
call unworthiness in my bookyoung turn fear.
I didn't have a word for it yetand it's part of the amnesia
that I learned from my dad, andso now some people come here to
learn unconditional love.
I I came to learn whatunworthiness meant and what to
do about it thank you forsharing that, bro, that
unworthiness you were feelingback then.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
there's a lot of people new and their listeners
are going.
I can relate, obviously,different scenarios, different
situations, but it's one of themain challenges people have
while learning who they are,their purpose, their role, the
world.
Where did it come from, in yourown words, where did the
unworthiness start?
Because it wasn't in the forces, it wasn't in the military.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It must have been way back, but even before that, I
grew up in New Jersey, so in thegreat state of New Jersey they
serve you gas.
My dad's awesome.
He was an NLP practitioner,like in the 80s, like before.
It was cool.
I'd go to these things and Imean, robert, I don't know NLP
Like the water.
I learned to swim in Greatrelationship.
Let me tell you a quick story,please.
(06:27):
When I was eight, my dad and Iwould go to baseball back and
forth.
He was a track star.
He ran a sub 30, 10k, likefantastic, and he wanted to play
baseball with me.
He didn't play sports, didn'tball the ball.
So we're throwing the ballaround one day and he was doing
this thing where he would catchthe ball over a shear I'm 8 for
(06:48):
this and he's a doctor.
Alright, dr John Mooka.
Dad, what are you doing?
I don't want to get in front ofthe ball, like why not?
Why don't want to get in frontof the ball?
Like why not?
Why don't we get hit by it?
And eight-year-old Brian said tomy dad don't be stupid, that's
what you have reactions for.
And he's the kind of guy thatcould hear that he started
(07:11):
getting in front of the ball.
He tells us in his masterblackout course his son was
teaching me how to get in frontof my fears from the beginning.
So we have that.
And then also, when he wouldorder gas, his voice would
change.
He would change the way that hewas around other men.
I learned that I needed tochange myself around other men,
(07:31):
especially on my classmates inCatholic school.
I didn't know who I was, so Itried to fit in and then that
just made it worse.
It was like merciless, becauseyou were not authentically you.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Without being authentic in who you are.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I can relate to.
I had no idea who I was.
None, I'm whoever you want meto be.
I wanted to make my dad proud.
Military is great because Istill got to be creative in the
special operations community andthen there was still enough
structure for me Like, oh, thisis next in my career, I guess
I'll just do that.
That's how I got married.
A little sense of things, oh,that's a good story.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Wait, you want to hear this?
Come on, please.
I love this.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
This is great.
So my 22nd birthday, we're inPhiladelphia, my friends from
Drexel and UPenn.
We did ROTC together.
I had a really great crew ofmen and women.
We did crazy shit at the beach,like we drive to Atlantic City
in the wintertime and do coldwater torture.
I have a picture somewhereunderneath my tongue my core
temperature 90.2 degrees Dumband fun at the same time.
(08:34):
I had some military.
So first half, we're hanging outhaving drinks.
There's a name of the placeSaying everybody know what we
were there for.
We were going to meet abeautiful woman.
I danced with this girl and Iwas done, went over to the bar I
met.
This lady had ordered twodouble Jack and Cokes.
Right, I grabbed one.
I was like you're hilarious,I'm taken, but all of my friends
(08:57):
are single.
So I walked over the prettiestone Her name is Jessica and
eventually she would become mywife Spent a lot of our time
apart, so it was a lot of likehoneymoon stuff.
I'm getting ready to go to diveschool winter dive class in
Florida.
I have no idea what I'm instore for.
Like it's Florida, it's goingto be warm.
No, it's not.
It's going to be really coldand you're going to have to earn
(09:18):
your wetsuits.
Good thing I grew up surfing inNew Jersey.
Anyway, my dad's brother hisname is Ron there was a joke in
Jess's family that he was gayand so he'd wear these pastel-y
shirts.
He was a musician, softhandshake, he's great, like.
He's so funny, great guy, spenta lot of time with him camping
and those things.
The point is I look up to himand he's like she's great.
(09:40):
Yeah, I know she's beautiful,she's smart, she makes good
money.
Like Brian, I don't think youcan do better.
Worst reason to ever getmarried is I don't think you can
do better, said my uncle hadbeen single for 30 years.
She is now my illustriouspractice wife.
She was a powerful teacher and,yeah, she was with me through
(10:04):
the deployments.
She was with me through mymedical sales career and then
this mission cost me marriage.
I was finally authentic.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
That's what I was about to say.
It didn't cost you anything.
It was making you aware of whoyou were supposed to become,
yeah, like deliberation isactually what I would like.
I'm so happy that you're awarenow, because a lot of other
people are going through arelationship breakdown,
separations.
We've all been there and we'veall lost people for various
(10:37):
reasons, but what strikes me themost is people like you.
You learn from it and youascend.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So learning from it's cool.
And then Jocko Willock has thislike oh, didn't get the
promotion that you wanted.
Good Acceptance is much higherthan Hawkins' power versus force
.
Skill, skip Wright, to thankyou.
There's so many times I'vethanked Jessica for being abused
as a child.
She doesn't have any childhoodmemories.
It was like the whole universeconspired to teach me this
(11:09):
lesson of you're a powerfulempath.
She agreed to be a strongnarcissistic tendency personally
, to then teach you to chooseyourself first time ever.
Like I deserve more reallygripping the earth, deciding.
I deserve more in that and Ihave so much gratitude for that
(11:30):
whole process.
It's it's as if before we hadthis incarnation.
Hey, will you do this for me?
This is going to be a greatsacrifice too.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It's considerably more powerful that you're aware.
Do you have a conversation?
Are you friends now, or are youjust not speaking?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
No, she has access to the whole mainframe.
She knows exactly what to sayto stick a knife, knife it, turn
it and get what she wants.
If I probably could now, justdon't have a desire.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Some people are able to stay at the friendship level.
Some people are not, forvarious reasons.
I was asking because people whoteach us the best, most
poignant lessons often are onlywith us for a period of time.
Before we move on to part two,can you tell the list of one of
the worst, most memorable placesyou went to before the
(12:26):
Ascension started?
When was your darkest moment?
Well, the darkest would you bewilling to?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
share At that time running Iraq, when I really
considered the world in thedesert and never come back.
That was darkest.
I got to revisit it a lot, thefeeling I don't mean the
decision and just the compassionthat it built.
Really careful not to say hecommitted suicide, it's not a
(12:52):
crime.
He chose death by suicide.
If I may address your audience,if you're ever talking with
someone who's consideringcontrol or deleting their life,
commit suicide is a really harshway to judge that Most people
will clam up after that.
So the language around it isreally powerful.
I trained with Wim Hof, became amaster certified Wim Hof
instructor, the ice bath hustle.
I trained with Wim Hof, becamea master certified Wim Hof
(13:14):
instructor, the ice bath hustle.
I would take a snorkel and goon the surface of the water.
I'd open my eyes in the blackRubbermaid to remind myself what
it was like to be at 150 feetof seawater, the handheld sonar,
disconnected from Earth'satmosphere, as a bomb-disposable
diver.
That was the most terror I'dever felt.
I was reminded of it.
(13:35):
I would train with it and thenI did some sound frequency stuff
and some light therapy.
The next time I did it afterthe sound frequency stuff.
I loved it.
It wasn't the nothing anymore,and when I realized it was
actually appearing inside of me,the things that I was afraid of
in me were no longer there.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yes, and that is so powerful, and this is why I love
these conversations.
I know they're difficult for alot of people, but it gives
relatability to others.
This is what this podcast does,and it's about other people
learning from different people'sexperiences because they can
(14:18):
relate to it, and what we'regoing to go into next is the
rise from the storm, so you'regoing to come up, breathe for a
moment my audience.
Go and check out brian.
Go and check out Freedom Sherpaand check out what he's doing.
Connect with him on LinkedIn,share the video, subscribe.
(14:40):
You will change someone's lifeby doing this.
This podcast is Russ Mnuchin.
This is Brian Mooka, and I willsee you in a few days in part
two of this episode with Brian.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Thank you for listening to my story.
There's value in being seen onthe other side of this, so I
just, from the bottom of myheart, thank you for listening
to my story.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Thank you, brian.
Your story is awesome.
I want to know the people's indifferent ways and that's why I
like doing this, because it canbe used as a powerful tool to
relate to you, getting them toknow who you are.
Behind what they see today,there's always a mask behind the
brand.
For my listeners, please share,subscribe, do yourself a favor
(15:31):
and check out Brian.
See you in part two of whateverepisode this is.
See you soon.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode
of Rice Meal.
I'm your host, baz Borsa.
I'm joined today with amarvelous human being.
He's becoming a friend and alsoa business partner in the
future.
His name is Brian and I'm goingto ask him to pronounce his
second name because I'm terriblewith people's names and I don't
want to mess it up.
(00:20):
Brian, please tell people yourname, who you are and what you
do in the world.
Let's introduce world.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Awesome, brian Muka, at your humble service.
What I do in the world, myfavorite thing to help people
awaken their latent gifts,spiritual gifts, leadership
gifts, those types of things.
It's hard-earned.
Through Jonah the whale, I ranfrom it.
I had the belly of the beastuntil I couldn't anymore.
(00:49):
When life got turned around,I'm like hogging out of the boat
.
It's here for me.
It's been this grand surrenderexperiment First the end of one
experiments for me, and thenwith my Tai Chi Gong master,
ajit.
I told him what I do.
He goes cool.
The thing you came to learn onearth is the thing you get to
teach.
We'll talk a little bit aboutmy avalanche.
(01:10):
I wrote a book about it and howto be with people during the
grand life reset.
I refer to it as the avalancheloss of limb, loss of job, loss
of relationship, those types ofthings, and what a gift that is.
Invisibility is a big part.
How can I find gratitude forthe discomfort?
There's treasure in there, sothat's what I help people find.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I love that, bro, and that's a different view on what
most people in the world have,because a lot of people go oh my
god, this is happening to me.
World is falling apart, this isgoing on, this is going on.
They do what 99% falling apart,this is going on, this is going
on.
And they do what 99% ofeverybody else in the world do
is stack their problems, thenthey compound, and then they
have a nervous breakdown and getdisease, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, if I'd be so bold, I want to share Mucha's
Law with you.
The Parkinson's Law is the sizeof the deadline.
Expands to the deadline You'veheard that before, I'm sure
because law is fear.
Expands to the size container.
I allow.
It therefore keeps your smalland useful or war in there.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah on the journey to where you are.
It wasn't always like that.
Can I take you back to wherethe actual avalanche, or just
before the avalanche happened,as you so eloquently put it?
What were you doing?
What was your life?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
like Airs on fire back then.
This is back in 2008.
My first combat at the planet.
I took a team to Iraq.
My chief father was dying ofcancer and I knew I needed to
send him home so he could bewith his dad.
(02:52):
I couldn't bear the thought ofAaron losing his life.
Distracted, cutting wires andIEDs, and I knew that as soon as
I made that decision my careerwas going to get really hard.
I used my senior enlistedadvisor.
As I look back in, my careerwas going to get really hard.
I used my senior enlistedadvisor.
As I look back in time, I fellon my sword in that.
I've got my fair share offuck-ups and junior officer
stuff.
(03:13):
Four weeks later, I wasreassigned to night watch while
my friends got to operate Docool guy, explosive wardens,
disposal, bomb technician stuffwith some really advanced
special forces guys.
I was doing PowerPoint slides,so I got the worst of that.
Saturdays was a down daytempo-wise, so I got the
mornings off.
I'd go running.
(03:34):
I was training for a marathon.
When I got back to the Statesin May, I was on a 20-mile run,
camp Spiker.
I remember feeling my toes overthe edge of the hardball and
the desert sand just on theother side.
I just stayed in the desert fora really long time.
I thought I'd come back it was12 minutes, real long and then I
(03:55):
heard God's voice.
I have a special mission foryou.
I turned around and there was apallet of water right behind me
.
Didn't notice it was there,grabbed the leader, brought it
home and it was interesting.
I go to church every Saturdayand it was neat just being like
350 miles away from where theseBible verses were coming from in
(04:16):
the New Testament.
That started the avalanche.
I got another team Two.
Before we deployed, my boss,chris, called me into his office
.
I knew what this was.
I was still unprepared.
Brian, I've lost a lot of sleepover this.
You're not the man to take ateam to Afghanistan.
That was our ranger mission,the most dangerous job that we
(04:38):
Afghanistan.
That was our ranger mission,the most dangerous job that we
had.
He was right.
I forgot that.
I'm Brian Mooka.
That started my journey.
I spent another nine months inthe Navy, got to work with Talia
Gershon.
She was our mental healthprofessional.
She became my life coach.
When I got off the Jewish army,I did a year of contract work
working with lieutenants andcaptains in the army that were
(04:58):
bomb technicians.
The mantra was like do itbetter than I did.
Guys, here's all the mistakes Imade.
Don't make this.
I made a great course.
I spent six years in medicalsales Pretty unfulfilling.
I liked the challenge of it.
At first I went to sales forthe year.
As soon as I did that, Isomething else.
(05:19):
And then you're looking at thissomething next, the freedom
sherpa, teaching people how tofear really unworthiness, like I
call unworthiness in my bookyoung turn fear.
I didn't have a word for it yetand it's part of the amnesia
that I learned from my dad, andso now some people come here to
learn unconditional love.
I I came to learn whatunworthiness meant and what to
do about it thank you forsharing that, bro, that
unworthiness you were feelingback then.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
there's a lot of people new and their listeners
are going.
I can relate, obviously,different scenarios, different
situations, but it's one of themain challenges people have
while learning who they are,their purpose, their role, the
world.
Where did it come from, in yourown words, where did the
unworthiness start?
Because it wasn't in the forces, it wasn't in the military.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It must have been way back, but even before that, I
grew up in New Jersey, so in thegreat state of New Jersey they
serve you gas.
My dad's awesome.
He was an NLP practitioner,like in the 80s, like before.
It was cool.
I'd go to these things and Imean, robert, I don't know NLP
Like the water.
I learned to swim in Greatrelationship.
Let me tell you a quick story,please.
(06:27):
When I was eight, my dad and Iwould go to baseball back and
forth.
He was a track star.
He ran a sub 30, 10k, likefantastic, and he wanted to play
baseball with me.
He didn't play sports, didn'tball the ball.
So we're throwing the ballaround one day and he was doing
this thing where he would catchthe ball over a shear I'm 8 for
(06:48):
this and he's a doctor.
Alright, dr John Mooka.
Dad, what are you doing?
I don't want to get in front ofthe ball, like why not?
Why don't want to get in frontof the ball?
Like why not?
Why don't we get hit by it?
And eight-year-old Brian said tomy dad don't be stupid, that's
what you have reactions for.
And he's the kind of guy thatcould hear that he started
(07:11):
getting in front of the ball.
He tells us in his masterblackout course his son was
teaching me how to get in frontof my fears from the beginning.
So we have that.
And then also, when he wouldorder gas, his voice would
change.
He would change the way that hewas around other men.
I learned that I needed tochange myself around other men,
(07:31):
especially on my classmates inCatholic school.
I didn't know who I was, so Itried to fit in and then that
just made it worse.
It was like merciless, becauseyou were not authentically you.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Without being authentic in who you are.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I can relate to.
I had no idea who I was.
None, I'm whoever you want meto be.
I wanted to make my dad proud.
Military is great because Istill got to be creative in the
special operations community andthen there was still enough
structure for me Like, oh, thisis next in my career, I guess
I'll just do that.
That's how I got married.
A little sense of things, oh,that's a good story.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Wait, you want to hear this?
Come on, please.
I love this.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
This is great.
So my 22nd birthday, we're inPhiladelphia, my friends from
Drexel and UPenn.
We did ROTC together.
I had a really great crew ofmen and women.
We did crazy shit at the beach,like we drive to Atlantic City
in the wintertime and do coldwater torture.
I have a picture somewhereunderneath my tongue my core
temperature 90.2 degrees Dumband fun at the same time.
(08:34):
I had some military.
So first half, we're hanging outhaving drinks.
There's a name of the placeSaying everybody know what we
were there for.
We were going to meet abeautiful woman.
I danced with this girl and Iwas done, went over to the bar I
met.
This lady had ordered twodouble Jack and Cokes.
Right, I grabbed one.
I was like you're hilarious,I'm taken, but all of my friends
(08:57):
are single.
So I walked over the prettiestone Her name is Jessica and
eventually she would become mywife Spent a lot of our time
apart, so it was a lot of likehoneymoon stuff.
I'm getting ready to go to diveschool winter dive class in
Florida.
I have no idea what I'm instore for.
Like it's Florida, it's goingto be warm.
No, it's not.
It's going to be really coldand you're going to have to earn
(09:18):
your wetsuits.
Good thing I grew up surfing inNew Jersey.
Anyway, my dad's brother hisname is Ron there was a joke in
Jess's family that he was gayand so he'd wear these pastel-y
shirts.
He was a musician, softhandshake, he's great, like.
He's so funny, great guy, spenta lot of time with him camping
and those things.
The point is I look up to himand he's like she's great.
(09:40):
Yeah, I know she's beautiful,she's smart, she makes good
money.
Like Brian, I don't think youcan do better.
Worst reason to ever getmarried is I don't think you can
do better, said my uncle hadbeen single for 30 years.
She is now my illustriouspractice wife.
She was a powerful teacher and,yeah, she was with me through
(10:04):
the deployments.
She was with me through mymedical sales career and then
this mission cost me marriage.
I was finally authentic.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
That's what I was about to say.
It didn't cost you anything.
It was making you aware of whoyou were supposed to become,
yeah, like deliberation isactually what I would like.
I'm so happy that you're awarenow, because a lot of other
people are going through arelationship breakdown,
separations.
We've all been there and we'veall lost people for various
(10:37):
reasons, but what strikes me themost is people like you.
You learn from it and youascend.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So learning from it's cool.
And then Jocko Willock has thislike oh, didn't get the
promotion that you wanted.
Good Acceptance is much higherthan Hawkins' power versus force
.
Skill, skip Wright, to thankyou.
There's so many times I'vethanked Jessica for being abused
as a child.
She doesn't have any childhoodmemories.
It was like the whole universeconspired to teach me this
(11:09):
lesson of you're a powerfulempath.
She agreed to be a strongnarcissistic tendency personally
, to then teach you to chooseyourself first time ever.
Like I deserve more reallygripping the earth, deciding.
I deserve more in that and Ihave so much gratitude for that
(11:30):
whole process.
It's it's as if before we hadthis incarnation.
Hey, will you do this for me?
This is going to be a greatsacrifice too.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It's considerably more powerful that you're aware.
Do you have a conversation?
Are you friends now, or are youjust not speaking?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
No, she has access to the whole mainframe.
She knows exactly what to sayto stick a knife, knife it, turn
it and get what she wants.
If I probably could now, justdon't have a desire.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Some people are able to stay at the friendship level.
Some people are not, forvarious reasons.
I was asking because people whoteach us the best, most
poignant lessons often are onlywith us for a period of time.
Before we move on to part two,can you tell the list of one of
the worst, most memorable placesyou went to before the
(12:26):
Ascension started?
When was your darkest moment?
Well, the darkest would you bewilling to?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
share At that time running Iraq, when I really
considered the world in thedesert and never come back.
That was darkest.
I got to revisit it a lot, thefeeling I don't mean the
decision and just the compassionthat it built.
Really careful not to say hecommitted suicide, it's not a
(12:52):
crime.
He chose death by suicide.
If I may address your audience,if you're ever talking with
someone who's consideringcontrol or deleting their life,
commit suicide is a really harshway to judge that Most people
will clam up after that.
So the language around it isreally powerful.
I trained with Wim Hof, became amaster certified Wim Hof
instructor, the ice bath hustle.
I trained with Wim Hof, becamea master certified Wim Hof
(13:14):
instructor, the ice bath hustle.
I would take a snorkel and goon the surface of the water.
I'd open my eyes in the blackRubbermaid to remind myself what
it was like to be at 150 feetof seawater, the handheld sonar,
disconnected from Earth'satmosphere, as a bomb-disposable
diver.
That was the most terror I'dever felt.
I was reminded of it.
(13:35):
I would train with it and thenI did some sound frequency stuff
and some light therapy.
The next time I did it afterthe sound frequency stuff.
I loved it.
It wasn't the nothing anymore,and when I realized it was
actually appearing inside of me,the things that I was afraid of
in me were no longer there.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yes, and that is so powerful, and this is why I love
these conversations.
I know they're difficult for alot of people, but it gives
relatability to others.
This is what this podcast does,and it's about other people
learning from different people'sexperiences because they can
(14:18):
relate to it, and what we'regoing to go into next is the
rise from the storm, so you'regoing to come up, breathe for a
moment my audience.
Go and check out brian.
Go and check out Freedom Sherpaand check out what he's doing.
Connect with him on LinkedIn,share the video, subscribe.
(14:40):
You will change someone's lifeby doing this.
This podcast is Russ Mnuchin.
This is Brian Mooka, and I willsee you in a few days in part
two of this episode with Brian.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Thank you for listening to my story.
There's value in being seen onthe other side of this, so I
just, from the bottom of myheart, thank you for listening
to my story.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Thank you, brian.
Your story is awesome.
I want to know the people's indifferent ways and that's why I
like doing this, because it canbe used as a powerful tool to
relate to you, getting them toknow who you are.
Behind what they see today,there's always a mask behind the
brand.
For my listeners, please share,subscribe, do yourself a favor
(15:31):
and check out Brian.
See you in part two of whateverepisode this is.
See you soon.
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