July 27, 2025 • 22 mins
What if the thing that makes you most human is your greatest weapon against AI?
While actors everywhere panic about artificial intelligence taking their jobs, Cloe Xhauflaire discovered something that stopped her cold: robots can replicate technique, but they can never replicate a broken heart.
In Part 2, Cloe reveals why the acting industry's AI crisis isn't about better technology it's about human authenticity becoming the ultimate competitive advantage.
Her game-changing insight: "You're gonna compete with machines, you're gonna compete with robots that are gonna do better. But a robot can't be better if you stay human being. Humanity, stories shared by soul and authenticity that's what you wanna have as an actor."
If you're an actor terrified of being replaced, this episode will show you exactly how to become AI-proof through the one thing technology can never master: genuine emotional freedom.
Key Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:41 Cloe's Unique Authenticity
02:18 Journey to Building a Business
03:21 Creating a Safe Space for Actors
09:58 The Importance of Mindset
10:21 Challenges and Opportunities in the Industry
14:49 Cloe's Programs and Community
17:04 How to Connect with Cloe
19:46 Final Thoughts and Farewell
The AI-Proof Actor Formula: Fear of replacement → Understanding AI's limitations → Discovering authenticity as competitive advantage → Learning to access genuine emotions → Creating human authenticity vs AI → Building actor career survival skills → Becoming irreplaceable through emotional truth
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't know.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcomeback.
We are part two of an amazinginterview with Chloe.
She has done a marvellousjourney of a book and it's all
about authenticity.
I'm going to give it a plugbecause I can.
I'm holding up.
If you're on video, go and getit.
The links are below.
(00:20):
Have a read.
But she's done so much more.
We talked about her journeythrough her partner, surviving
or going through cancer,traveling the world and learning
so much about other people, butmore importantly, about herself
and her authenticity, how sheshowed up in the world.
What we're going to go into nowis a little different, because
(00:44):
she has something that no otherperson I believe on earth has.
She has chesticles, and what Imean by that is she shows up in
a way that is so authentic, soraw, but also so loving and kind
to change people's lives andhave impact, not only in her
(01:06):
life but potentially and I knowI've had plenty of conversations
with her in so many otherpeople's.
But it was born from the ashesand I want to speak to her about
, and you about that journey ofhow, the conception of what you
do and what you've built fromall the things you've gone
(01:32):
through good, bad and different,but they've come to a
centralized point where you nowshow up for others in such a
compassionate way.
I very rarely see this, and thatcompassion is something that
drives you and it's the centerpoint of everything that you
believe in and that's missing inthe world.
(01:54):
Quite frankly, I believe it'smissing in so many aspects of
the world because the world atthe moment is so divided for
many different reasons.
But you've united withinyourself and you've changed it
not just into a program, a book,a podcast, but some other
things as well, which we'll gointo in a bit.
(02:14):
But how did that all come?
What was a realization for you?
And coming into a businessmindset of I'm not broken.
I was never broken.
Actually, I'm quite awesome,and this is what we're going to
do.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think I never had that one and that's the reason I
think it was a journey.
But what I noticed very earlyis that it's so funny.
When I was a young actress, Idid different auditions getting
out of drama school and onething was really crazy is that
(02:56):
the three first auditions bigaudition I did for roles, my
partner got chosen, my partnergot the part and I was like, of
course you're frustrated as anactress.
Yeah, you're like what the heck?
People started calling me toget help and to work with me
(03:17):
because I was an amazing partnerto lift them up.
Basically back then, alreadyright Now, I understood that
years after, but then I wasfrustrated and then when I moved
to New York and I saw that,what I noticed is that why act
in, which is act inside you wasborn, is because it's the thing,
(03:42):
the place where that I waslooking, since ever I was
looking for that as a youngactress.
I was looking for a place when Icould be safe, releasing
everything that I needed torelease.
Feel free to fail, becausethat's the problem in this
industry.
Nobody wants to fail, they wantto win, and we know in the
(04:04):
business industry that you don'twin unless you fail, and that's
where I started building mycompany on.
Okay, it started with oneworkshop giving to someone who
wants to level up, who wants tounderstand how to get out of
their own zone, and then anotherone and another one.
And then, when I came to Europe, it was just because I knew
(04:26):
there was tools that I got fromAmerica and tools that I got
from Europe and that could be amix to help them to level up.
And so I created my first onein Paris, and then I went to
Madrid and Barcelona and.
Milan and all that salon andthen Milan and all that.
(04:49):
So, basically, everything isalways and still is just
something coming from me willingto help someone, because I
truly believe that's how weraise, we grow by ourselves.
That's why that's how we lifteach other and that's why the
world should be.
It's by helping someone elsethat you're going to be helped.
Sometimes it doesn't happenthat way, but I truly believe
(05:10):
that's how we're going to bebetter in the world and do
better.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
What you're speaking to now is something dear to my
heart and we align greatly on it.
That's unity.
It's bringing people togetherfor a purpose that is greater
than an outside influence.
It's driven by a belief, if youwill, whether it be that belief
(05:36):
in themselves, in god, universe, whatever you call it.
It's driving us, but mentionedit earlier, and that was to give
more, to be a part of somethingmuch bigger than ourselves.
And from an outsider looking inon your world.
That's what you give to otherpeople through your journey.
(05:58):
You have a unique experience.
People dress these up and theydowngrade them uh, coaching,
life coaching, mentorship but inmy own experience, the best
mentors, the best coaches, thebest guides are the ones who
have been there, done it, gotthe t-shirt in your case, you've
(06:22):
got the movie, the film, etc.
Etc.
And now you're applying allthat skill sets and you've put
it into a very elegant way of aof a personality online.
That's approachable, it'sunderstandable but, most
importantly, it's relatable.
Your brand, everything you live, your brand.
(06:45):
It's not something you dooutside of you.
It's a part of your identity.
What I find very interesting isyou're the result of everything
that your clients are goingthrough right now and the people
(07:06):
who find you know what you'regoing to deliver, because you
are the result of it.
What specific problems dopeople approach you with
normally?
How do they find you?
What's the common question theyask you when you get on the
call with them, when theyapproach you on social media?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The first thing they know is that my nickname in New
York is Sweet Dragon, so I'mreally strict, but I'm also like
a mother.
But how do they find me?
First, I'm on social media andI have my website and all that.
But the question they get fromthem is how do I book more roles
(07:48):
?
Something is holding me back toget to the full potential I
want.
What's the diagnosis?
What is wrong with me and whyam I not seen?
Why am I not recognized the wayI want?
Why am I not accessing to myfull potential?
And basically, that's what Iwitnessed for the last 15 years
(08:10):
and plus, because I probablywitnessed that in my family and
in the environment I grew up in,and so I looked at all that and
I'm like, okay, what's thecommon thing between all those
people?
And it's this freedom fromchildhood and rewriting your
story.
You're never going to be.
One thing that I want to say isthat, in my way of working,
(08:31):
there's the method acting insideand it's controversial in
Europe, but because we'reworking on ourselves.
But there's a difference betweenworking on yourself when you
know, with someone thoughtfuland caring about who you are,
and just using the struggle andthe horrible moment you had in
(08:55):
your life and just lifted thatto an acting thing and suffering
in acting.
My desire was for actors toreally feel like they can bring
everything they've been through,because the shit I've been
through in Australia issomething that I did not want to
remember only as a shit.
It's something that I wanted tobring into my eyes to help
(09:17):
someone else to feel something.
So the idea is really okay.
You don't feel like you'recomplete, you don't feel like
you are fully yourself, youdon't feel like you're free.
When you're in a camera, what'sgoing on?
What's going on?
What's the thing that holds youback and that you feel like
you're not allowed to show?
And then we hear that.
Then we understand that we canuse it appropriately because we
(09:41):
choose to and not becausesomeone else, a big person, is
coming and say, hey, do that forme, just because you know your
instrument and you do it from aplace of freedom I love that and
I want to touch on somethingnow.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That is, it's to do with mindset and your state of
viewing not just yourself, butfrom an actor's point of view.
Why is it so important thatmind states or mindsets for the
people who you're working withhas to raise, and you've got to
(10:14):
raise your own standard withthat?
Why is that so important inthis day and age?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
AI is everywhere Industry, the economy.
The world is changing.
Regarding our industry isunbelievably scary for the world
in our industry.
So I think it's reallynecessary today to have a right
mindset, to know who you are,and your authenticity and your
(10:43):
own creativity must be unlockedin order for you to compete and
to do the Aikido method toreally fight in an appropriate
way and not fighting and resist,because this is not going to go
away, it's just okay.
This is a huge wave in front ofme.
What do I do as an actor?
(11:05):
How can I find my own waythrough this?
And I truly believe that it'sgoing to be through authenticity
.
It's going to be through yourown creativity, and your own
creativity is only available ifyou feel fully free to express
yourself, because otherwiseyou're going to compete with
machines.
(11:25):
You're going to compete withrobots that are going to do
better, but a robot can bebetter if he's locked in a robot
.
But a human being stay a humanbeing.
Humanity, stories that areshared by soul and authenticity
and all the emotions.
That's what you want to have asan actor and that's how we're
(11:48):
going to win, and that's what Iwant for actors to feel like
they still matters, becausethat's the question today as
well.
How do I still matter?
I'm like like, yes, you do,because we need that, and
especially also for stage actor.
Right, they need to have thishumanity, this possible vessel
(12:08):
to share everything and giveaccess to other.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I love that.
What you're speaking to now issomething that I think is
missing around the world or notspoken enough about.
The authenticity of somebodymakes you yourself unique, but
everybody's chasing what theysee or they feel is acceptable.
(12:40):
Online Social media.
They did this in the 80s, 90s,2000s.
Well, they put swim models inthe front pages of all these
magazines, the Victoria's Secretmodels, whoever these people
were.
But they had a dramatic effecton the younger generation.
They now view themselves theyhave to have this model zero
(13:04):
body, they have to have flawlessface features and all the rest
of it.
But it wasn't real life.
And what's happened now?
And you mentioned AI.
Ai has a remarkable effect,positive and negative.
I like to use it positively inlife, in my business, for
(13:24):
resource understanding andlearning, but equally, it can be
manipulated for a darker side.
There's always a light and adark of what we do, but you're
seeing now the darker side of itin magazines, because it's now
come out saying that'sairbrushed, this has been
touched up, they have to looksymmetrical, perfect.
(13:46):
But newsflash listeners, lifeisn't perfect.
We are not perfect.
There's no such thing asperfection in human beings.
It's a flaw that we have whatChloe, and I love.
What she's speaking about isuse that authenticity, use that
light within you to uncover adeeper level of who you truly
(14:12):
are, not who the organizations,corporate, etc.
Want you to think you are.
And Chloe is the result ofdoing deep work, understanding
who she is and then aligningwith that person deep within her
, and then aligning with thatperson deep within her.
(14:36):
The trials, tribulations andeverything else goes with it are
signatures and testimony to herdoing the work.
What's next on your agenda?
What's next?
What's Chloe 2.1?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
What I created this year without knowing.
I experienced that last year Iwas finishing a workshop in
Paris and then I decided to do afollow-up because it was a gift
for actors, and I said you knowwhat, for 12 weeks we're going
to go and explore together oncea week and basically it created
a program.
I have an online program withone level and then you can reach
(15:13):
another level that is calledUnbreakable, and Unbreakable is
really giving 12 weeks of yourwork and what I do is that once
a week, you meet with me andother followers on Zoom for an
audition.
Basically, it's not an audition, it's a meeting every week.
But what's cool is that I mimicwhat's happening in the
(15:35):
industry, because we haveself-tapes, we have the audition
live, we have Zoom classes.
We have all that.
So the idea is to really givethem, like maybe four days
before, maybe an hour before,maybe a monologue, maybe a scene
, maybe something, and then Iwork.
Also, in the program we have avision clan.
(15:56):
The vision clan is reallycreating a vision as an actor,
because what I noticed, ourindustry has no big community
and we miss the possibility tofeel like we have actors
together and helping each otherand so, with that acting really
create a community when actorscan worldwide help each other.
(16:19):
So that means that if tomorrowI have an audition for America,
I can find someone in America, Ican find someone in Madrid, but
I can find someone in Australia, I can find someone in Russia,
anywhere in the world.
I have actors who areaccountable to help each other
because they worked with me foran amount of time and we create
that together to help each other.
(16:39):
This is really crucial is thatthis community is helping each
other and they have to worktogether and that's so cool to
do.
That's what I was missing Again.
It's basically everything I'mdoing today is what I was
missing again.
It's a basically everything I'mdoing today is what I was
missing as a young actress thatI would have loved to have to
level up, and that's what I'mcreating today.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I love what you're doing.
I love that you're sopassionate about it.
So, if someone wants to workwith you yes, you're online,
linkedin and Instagram and allthe rest of it.
How do people find you?
How do people get hold of you?
What's your expectation whenthey come and see you?
Because people don't just comeand see you for a mediocre
little conversation.
They have to have an objective.
You're looking for a specificsort of person, so I want to get
(17:23):
really precise for this.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
What I noticed is that someone who wants to level
up and free, because I don'thave only actors, I have any
kind of artist who wants to getout.
I had a lawyer before whowanted to come.
I have a musician.
I have people who want to getout of their comfort zone and
feeling free to expressthemselves on stage as well.
(17:46):
So even when you have to workin front of an audience, that
works.
But of course, my Instagram iswhere you can find content and
when I suggest things, I have anewsletter as well.
What I offer usually is forpeople who really want to see if
they match with me.
I have a 15 minutes free callwith them, an introduction call,
(18:06):
and see where I can lead them.
When they never, an actor willright away book a workshop
because they know by reputationwhat they're going to have.
It's mainly a wealth of maththat works for me.
Mainly I did my reputation likethis, but when you don't know
and you want to see a little bitwhat it's all about and who is
(18:28):
that chick, you just email mecontact at actineverywherecom.
Actually, be careful.
Acting doesn't have a G.
It's act in, so it's actinginside you and it's a little
game with the name, but it's actin E-N-G without the G
Actineverywherecom.
And then I have a beautifulassistant who's going to take
(18:49):
care of my calendar and find a15 minutes call if that's needed
.
Otherwise, instagram, linkedinand the book and see from there.
By the way, in the book thereis a QR code that leads to a
workbook and in the workbook youstart really doing the work,
and with that book I'm offeringas well a little gift.
(19:11):
So you just have to know thatwill be there and you just start
from there.
Start from breaking down ascript, having fun with that,
see how it goes, and then itwill be translated as well.
I'm translating in French now.
It's going to be done in theend of a month.
It's very difficult totranslate in French because I'm
speaking English more thanFrench, although French is my
(19:33):
first language.
And, yeah, go from there andsee where you want to go, what's
your next level, what do yousee, what's the vision, and from
there, I'm going to diagnoseand see how I can help you.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I love that.
I really admire who you are,where you've come from and your
journey, and I know the audiencewill do the same and honor your
commitment to yourself withsharing to others.
Chloe, you're amazing and Ireally thank you for being here
with me today, and I want theaudience to know that you're
(20:07):
only a step away from changingsomeone's life.
You're only a step away fromchanging someone's life.
Chloe has not just herself, butfor many people who have come
across her.
She's inspired me withdifferent things and she goes on
(20:28):
and inspires so many others.
So share the message today justwith somebody who may need a
little bit of inspiration Frommyself.
Thank you very much.
It's been an honor.
Chloe, you're amazing.
Please continue doing whatyou're doing and if there's any
way I can support you, justreach out and say hi.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Thank you, same from you.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
From my audience have an amazing day On purpose.
You're all amazing.
Thank you very much for yourlove, support and I'm forever
grateful this show would notexist if it wasn't for you.
From again, rise From the Ashespodcast.
I'm Baz Porter, this was ChloeO'Flair and I hope I said that
right.
Bravo, it's great to be here 10months, anyway, for myself.
(21:09):
Thank you very much.
Please share the message.
Much love to you all and I'll
I don't know.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcomeback.
We are part two of an amazinginterview with Chloe.
She has done a marvellousjourney of a book and it's all
about authenticity.
I'm going to give it a plugbecause I can.
I'm holding up.
If you're on video, go and getit.
The links are below.
(00:20):
Have a read.
But she's done so much more.
We talked about her journeythrough her partner, surviving
or going through cancer,traveling the world and learning
so much about other people, butmore importantly, about herself
and her authenticity, how sheshowed up in the world.
What we're going to go into nowis a little different, because
(00:44):
she has something that no otherperson I believe on earth has.
She has chesticles, and what Imean by that is she shows up in
a way that is so authentic, soraw, but also so loving and kind
to change people's lives andhave impact, not only in her
(01:06):
life but potentially and I knowI've had plenty of conversations
with her in so many otherpeople's.
But it was born from the ashesand I want to speak to her about
, and you about that journey ofhow, the conception of what you
do and what you've built fromall the things you've gone
(01:32):
through good, bad and different,but they've come to a
centralized point where you nowshow up for others in such a
compassionate way.
I very rarely see this, and thatcompassion is something that
drives you and it's the centerpoint of everything that you
believe in and that's missing inthe world.
(01:54):
Quite frankly, I believe it'smissing in so many aspects of
the world because the world atthe moment is so divided for
many different reasons.
But you've united withinyourself and you've changed it
not just into a program, a book,a podcast, but some other
things as well, which we'll gointo in a bit.
(02:14):
But how did that all come?
What was a realization for you?
And coming into a businessmindset of I'm not broken.
I was never broken.
Actually, I'm quite awesome,and this is what we're going to
do.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think I never had that one and that's the reason I
think it was a journey.
But what I noticed very earlyis that it's so funny.
When I was a young actress, Idid different auditions getting
out of drama school and onething was really crazy is that
(02:56):
the three first auditions bigaudition I did for roles, my
partner got chosen, my partnergot the part and I was like, of
course you're frustrated as anactress.
Yeah, you're like what the heck?
People started calling me toget help and to work with me
(03:17):
because I was an amazing partnerto lift them up.
Basically back then, alreadyright Now, I understood that
years after, but then I wasfrustrated and then when I moved
to New York and I saw that,what I noticed is that why act
in, which is act inside you wasborn, is because it's the thing,
(03:42):
the place where that I waslooking, since ever I was
looking for that as a youngactress.
I was looking for a place when Icould be safe, releasing
everything that I needed torelease.
Feel free to fail, becausethat's the problem in this
industry.
Nobody wants to fail, they wantto win, and we know in the
(04:04):
business industry that you don'twin unless you fail, and that's
where I started building mycompany on.
Okay, it started with oneworkshop giving to someone who
wants to level up, who wants tounderstand how to get out of
their own zone, and then anotherone and another one.
And then, when I came to Europe, it was just because I knew
(04:26):
there was tools that I got fromAmerica and tools that I got
from Europe and that could be amix to help them to level up.
And so I created my first onein Paris, and then I went to
Madrid and Barcelona and.
Milan and all that salon andthen Milan and all that.
(04:49):
So, basically, everything isalways and still is just
something coming from me willingto help someone, because I
truly believe that's how weraise, we grow by ourselves.
That's why that's how we lifteach other and that's why the
world should be.
It's by helping someone elsethat you're going to be helped.
Sometimes it doesn't happenthat way, but I truly believe
(05:10):
that's how we're going to bebetter in the world and do
better.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
What you're speaking to now is something dear to my
heart and we align greatly on it.
That's unity.
It's bringing people togetherfor a purpose that is greater
than an outside influence.
It's driven by a belief, if youwill, whether it be that belief
(05:36):
in themselves, in god, universe, whatever you call it.
It's driving us, but mentionedit earlier, and that was to give
more, to be a part of somethingmuch bigger than ourselves.
And from an outsider looking inon your world.
That's what you give to otherpeople through your journey.
(05:58):
You have a unique experience.
People dress these up and theydowngrade them uh, coaching,
life coaching, mentorship but inmy own experience, the best
mentors, the best coaches, thebest guides are the ones who
have been there, done it, gotthe t-shirt in your case, you've
(06:22):
got the movie, the film, etc.
Etc.
And now you're applying allthat skill sets and you've put
it into a very elegant way of aof a personality online.
That's approachable, it'sunderstandable but, most
importantly, it's relatable.
Your brand, everything you live, your brand.
(06:45):
It's not something you dooutside of you.
It's a part of your identity.
What I find very interesting isyou're the result of everything
that your clients are goingthrough right now and the people
(07:06):
who find you know what you'regoing to deliver, because you
are the result of it.
What specific problems dopeople approach you with
normally?
How do they find you?
What's the common question theyask you when you get on the
call with them, when theyapproach you on social media?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The first thing they know is that my nickname in New
York is Sweet Dragon, so I'mreally strict, but I'm also like
a mother.
But how do they find me?
First, I'm on social media andI have my website and all that.
But the question they get fromthem is how do I book more roles
(07:48):
?
Something is holding me back toget to the full potential I
want.
What's the diagnosis?
What is wrong with me and whyam I not seen?
Why am I not recognized the wayI want?
Why am I not accessing to myfull potential?
And basically, that's what Iwitnessed for the last 15 years
(08:10):
and plus, because I probablywitnessed that in my family and
in the environment I grew up in,and so I looked at all that and
I'm like, okay, what's thecommon thing between all those
people?
And it's this freedom fromchildhood and rewriting your
story.
You're never going to be.
One thing that I want to say isthat, in my way of working,
(08:31):
there's the method acting insideand it's controversial in
Europe, but because we'reworking on ourselves.
But there's a difference betweenworking on yourself when you
know, with someone thoughtfuland caring about who you are,
and just using the struggle andthe horrible moment you had in
(08:55):
your life and just lifted thatto an acting thing and suffering
in acting.
My desire was for actors toreally feel like they can bring
everything they've been through,because the shit I've been
through in Australia issomething that I did not want to
remember only as a shit.
It's something that I wanted tobring into my eyes to help
(09:17):
someone else to feel something.
So the idea is really okay.
You don't feel like you'recomplete, you don't feel like
you are fully yourself, youdon't feel like you're free.
When you're in a camera, what'sgoing on?
What's going on?
What's the thing that holds youback and that you feel like
you're not allowed to show?
And then we hear that.
Then we understand that we canuse it appropriately because we
(09:41):
choose to and not becausesomeone else, a big person, is
coming and say, hey, do that forme, just because you know your
instrument and you do it from aplace of freedom I love that and
I want to touch on somethingnow.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That is, it's to do with mindset and your state of
viewing not just yourself, butfrom an actor's point of view.
Why is it so important thatmind states or mindsets for the
people who you're working withhas to raise, and you've got to
(10:14):
raise your own standard withthat?
Why is that so important inthis day and age?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
AI is everywhere Industry, the economy.
The world is changing.
Regarding our industry isunbelievably scary for the world
in our industry.
So I think it's reallynecessary today to have a right
mindset, to know who you are,and your authenticity and your
(10:43):
own creativity must be unlockedin order for you to compete and
to do the Aikido method toreally fight in an appropriate
way and not fighting and resist,because this is not going to go
away, it's just okay.
This is a huge wave in front ofme.
What do I do as an actor?
(11:05):
How can I find my own waythrough this?
And I truly believe that it'sgoing to be through authenticity
.
It's going to be through yourown creativity, and your own
creativity is only available ifyou feel fully free to express
yourself, because otherwiseyou're going to compete with
machines.
(11:25):
You're going to compete withrobots that are going to do
better, but a robot can bebetter if he's locked in a robot
.
But a human being stay a humanbeing.
Humanity, stories that areshared by soul and authenticity
and all the emotions.
That's what you want to have asan actor and that's how we're
(11:48):
going to win, and that's what Iwant for actors to feel like
they still matters, becausethat's the question today as
well.
How do I still matter?
I'm like like, yes, you do,because we need that, and
especially also for stage actor.
Right, they need to have thishumanity, this possible vessel
(12:08):
to share everything and giveaccess to other.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I love that.
What you're speaking to now issomething that I think is
missing around the world or notspoken enough about.
The authenticity of somebodymakes you yourself unique, but
everybody's chasing what theysee or they feel is acceptable.
(12:40):
Online Social media.
They did this in the 80s, 90s,2000s.
Well, they put swim models inthe front pages of all these
magazines, the Victoria's Secretmodels, whoever these people
were.
But they had a dramatic effecton the younger generation.
They now view themselves theyhave to have this model zero
(13:04):
body, they have to have flawlessface features and all the rest
of it.
But it wasn't real life.
And what's happened now?
And you mentioned AI.
Ai has a remarkable effect,positive and negative.
I like to use it positively inlife, in my business, for
(13:24):
resource understanding andlearning, but equally, it can be
manipulated for a darker side.
There's always a light and adark of what we do, but you're
seeing now the darker side of itin magazines, because it's now
come out saying that'sairbrushed, this has been
touched up, they have to looksymmetrical, perfect.
(13:46):
But newsflash listeners, lifeisn't perfect.
We are not perfect.
There's no such thing asperfection in human beings.
It's a flaw that we have whatChloe, and I love.
What she's speaking about isuse that authenticity, use that
light within you to uncover adeeper level of who you truly
(14:12):
are, not who the organizations,corporate, etc.
Want you to think you are.
And Chloe is the result ofdoing deep work, understanding
who she is and then aligningwith that person deep within her
, and then aligning with thatperson deep within her.
(14:36):
The trials, tribulations andeverything else goes with it are
signatures and testimony to herdoing the work.
What's next on your agenda?
What's next?
What's Chloe 2.1?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
What I created this year without knowing.
I experienced that last year Iwas finishing a workshop in
Paris and then I decided to do afollow-up because it was a gift
for actors, and I said you knowwhat, for 12 weeks we're going
to go and explore together oncea week and basically it created
a program.
I have an online program withone level and then you can reach
(15:13):
another level that is calledUnbreakable, and Unbreakable is
really giving 12 weeks of yourwork and what I do is that once
a week, you meet with me andother followers on Zoom for an
audition.
Basically, it's not an audition, it's a meeting every week.
But what's cool is that I mimicwhat's happening in the
(15:35):
industry, because we haveself-tapes, we have the audition
live, we have Zoom classes.
We have all that.
So the idea is to really givethem, like maybe four days
before, maybe an hour before,maybe a monologue, maybe a scene
, maybe something, and then Iwork.
Also, in the program we have avision clan.
(15:56):
The vision clan is reallycreating a vision as an actor,
because what I noticed, ourindustry has no big community
and we miss the possibility tofeel like we have actors
together and helping each otherand so, with that acting really
create a community when actorscan worldwide help each other.
(16:19):
So that means that if tomorrowI have an audition for America,
I can find someone in America, Ican find someone in Madrid, but
I can find someone in Australia, I can find someone in Russia,
anywhere in the world.
I have actors who areaccountable to help each other
because they worked with me foran amount of time and we create
that together to help each other.
(16:39):
This is really crucial is thatthis community is helping each
other and they have to worktogether and that's so cool to
do.
That's what I was missing Again.
It's basically everything I'mdoing today is what I was
missing again.
It's a basically everything I'mdoing today is what I was
missing as a young actress thatI would have loved to have to
level up, and that's what I'mcreating today.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I love what you're doing.
I love that you're sopassionate about it.
So, if someone wants to workwith you yes, you're online,
linkedin and Instagram and allthe rest of it.
How do people find you?
How do people get hold of you?
What's your expectation whenthey come and see you?
Because people don't just comeand see you for a mediocre
little conversation.
They have to have an objective.
You're looking for a specificsort of person, so I want to get
(17:23):
really precise for this.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
What I noticed is that someone who wants to level
up and free, because I don'thave only actors, I have any
kind of artist who wants to getout.
I had a lawyer before whowanted to come.
I have a musician.
I have people who want to getout of their comfort zone and
feeling free to expressthemselves on stage as well.
(17:46):
So even when you have to workin front of an audience, that
works.
But of course, my Instagram iswhere you can find content and
when I suggest things, I have anewsletter as well.
What I offer usually is forpeople who really want to see if
they match with me.
I have a 15 minutes free callwith them, an introduction call,
(18:06):
and see where I can lead them.
When they never, an actor willright away book a workshop
because they know by reputationwhat they're going to have.
It's mainly a wealth of maththat works for me.
Mainly I did my reputation likethis, but when you don't know
and you want to see a little bitwhat it's all about and who is
(18:28):
that chick, you just email mecontact at actineverywherecom.
Actually, be careful.
Acting doesn't have a G.
It's act in, so it's actinginside you and it's a little
game with the name, but it's actin E-N-G without the G
Actineverywherecom.
And then I have a beautifulassistant who's going to take
(18:49):
care of my calendar and find a15 minutes call if that's needed
.
Otherwise, instagram, linkedinand the book and see from there.
By the way, in the book thereis a QR code that leads to a
workbook and in the workbook youstart really doing the work,
and with that book I'm offeringas well a little gift.
(19:11):
So you just have to know thatwill be there and you just start
from there.
Start from breaking down ascript, having fun with that,
see how it goes, and then itwill be translated as well.
I'm translating in French now.
It's going to be done in theend of a month.
It's very difficult totranslate in French because I'm
speaking English more thanFrench, although French is my
(19:33):
first language.
And, yeah, go from there andsee where you want to go, what's
your next level, what do yousee, what's the vision, and from
there, I'm going to diagnoseand see how I can help you.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I love that.
I really admire who you are,where you've come from and your
journey, and I know the audiencewill do the same and honor your
commitment to yourself withsharing to others.
Chloe, you're amazing and Ireally thank you for being here
with me today, and I want theaudience to know that you're
(20:07):
only a step away from changingsomeone's life.
You're only a step away fromchanging someone's life.
Chloe has not just herself, butfor many people who have come
across her.
She's inspired me withdifferent things and she goes on
(20:28):
and inspires so many others.
So share the message today justwith somebody who may need a
little bit of inspiration Frommyself.
Thank you very much.
It's been an honor.
Chloe, you're amazing.
Please continue doing whatyou're doing and if there's any
way I can support you, justreach out and say hi.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Thank you, same from you.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
From my audience have an amazing day On purpose.
You're all amazing.
Thank you very much for yourlove, support and I'm forever
grateful this show would notexist if it wasn't for you.
From again, rise From the Ashespodcast.
I'm Baz Porter, this was ChloeO'Flair and I hope I said that
right.
Bravo, it's great to be here 10months, anyway, for myself.
(21:09):
Thank you very much.
Please share the message.
Much love to you all and I'll
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