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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Ladies and gentlemen,
welcome back to Rice in the
Ashes.
We're on another episode and wehave an amazing guest with us
today.
I met him through LinkedIn andhe's really truly inspiring.
His journey has taken him over20 years through personal
development, throughhypnotherapy, and now he serves
other people in his knowledge tomake their lives a lot better.
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Other people in his knowledgeto make their lives a lot better
.
Please welcome my guest, tim.
Sir, how are you doing and Ihope I spelled or said your
second name right, because I'mterrible with names, so if I
didn't, please correct me andtell me off Tim, how are you
doing?
Tell the world, tell the worldwhat you do and who you are,
please.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh well, thank you
for having me, Baz, yeah, Tim
Sir here.
Celebrity hypnotist and topexecutive coach.
What I really do is I've spentmy whole adult life trying to
figure out how to get rid ofanxiety, how to get rid of our
suffering, our worries and fearsthat we're not enough, that
we're not going to be able tofigure out how to make our life
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the way that we want it out, howto make our life the way that
we want it, how to get rid ofall the chronic worries about
money, about relationships,about just how to feel peaceful
and happy in general, I foundthat traditional psychology.
I went to school to become apsychotherapist.
I think I was more psycho thantherapist.
I got my degrees, but I foundthat traditional talk therapy
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just wasn't cutting it.
You could be in therapy for 10years and still not feel better
from talking about your problems, and so I wanted to find
something that went deeper.
I tried every approach and toolthat there was.
I was very skeptical, so I hadthis prove it attitude.
Right, If you're telling methat it's going to change your
life, prove it.
And so I got into hypnotherapyby accident.
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That was never the plan, but aguest speaker came to our
college and asked for avolunteer and I thought I'll
cluck like a chicken.
I just only knew it about theentertainment side of it.
But within five minutes I felta sense of peace that I had
never really felt before and itwent away after about a week
because I was really good atdoing anxiety, making myself
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insecure, although I thought itwas happening to me because I
didn't understand the power ofbeliefs and what drives us at an
unconscious level.
So that opened me up to thiswhole new world of what was
possible and what's going on inthe part of our mind that we're
not really connected to veryoften.
And now it's been 30 years ofbeing in practice.
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I facilitated over 16,000sessions, individual sessions
and hundreds of groups and havediscovered a tremendous amount
of how to stop playing not tolose and how to start playing to
win, and I guess that's whatwe're going to talk about today.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It is partly, but I
love your journey and there's
always a baseline.
Why you started and I know youmentioned about it was a chance
encounter with a hypnotist, butyou mentioned earlier you were
studying to be a traditionaltherapist and psychotherapy.
My wife's been in that fieldfor a very long time.
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She doesn't do it so much nowbut, like you, she drifted away
from that and found somethingelse.
What was the draw fromcorporate normality of
structured therapy psychotherapyinto?
I want to try something new.
Was it a journey for you toself, to rediscover yourself, or
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was it to begin with completelyserving other people?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well, it was
definitely for me.
First I'd love to say it wasaltruistic and I was out there
trying to save the world, but Iwas just trying to feel more
confident.
I had a therapist tell me thatI had generalized anxiety
disorder and I'm like, well, howdo I have generalized
confidence?
Because that's what I wanted.
And it felt like the only way Iever got that was through
alcohol.
And then you never have enough,and so I would end up throwing
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up on the side of somebody'shouse, you know, and then just
terrible cycle of never feelinggood enough and then acting
stupid to try to feel better andtrying to avoid pain by
engaging in activities thatcause more of it.
And so when I got hypnotizedthat first time sitting in that
class that volunteer it was likea counseling processes class
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and that hypnotist said I'mgoing to count from five down to
one and you're going to closeyour eyes and feel more peaceful
.
And then that's exactly whathappened.
And then I could hear myclassmates giggling and stuff.
And he didn't make me doanything silly, he was just
telling me that I was going tofeel confident and that I could
believe in myself, and thingsthat I never really heard before
I grew up in the 70ss, andeverybody was very condescending
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, everybody cut each other downand very sarcastic Sarcasm was
the rule of the day, and so, youknow, we were always just kind
of tearing each other down andthinking it was funny, even
though it wasn't a lot of timesand it cut too deep and forms
beliefs in our mind that make usfeel like maybe that's real.
You know, maybe I am a loser,maybe I don't deserve anything,
maybe I'm not, you know, maybe Iam the sinner that everybody
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tells me that I am, which we are, but that doesn't mean anything
except that you haveopportunities to grow and and,
uh, improve your self-love andself-acceptance and self-belief,
which can transform your life.
So, um, so it was that feelingof that wow, something is
actually different here.
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I don't feel that knot in mystomach.
I feel peaceful, I feel light,I feel more at ease, and that
week he said I was going to feelconfident.
All week and all week I feltconfident.
I walked a little taller, I hada little more, a little bit
more peace inside.
I didn't feel like I had toconstantly chase approval.
I didn't feel like I had toconstantly be around somebody
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else because I didn't like me,and so I didn't want to be just
by myself, so I didn't have toconstantly be around other
people and keep myself occupied,because when I was alone and
quiet, you know, they say anidle mind or an idle hands.
Idle hands are the work of thedevil, but an idle mind is much
worse.
So when you're there byyourself and you have all these
worries and fears and stress,and and I had all of that and so
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, so that feeling caused me tostart looking for hypnosis
schools, and I didn't knowanything about that stuff, but I
found one and it was about fourhours away and they had a
training class, but it was onlyfor doctors.
It was only for physicians,right.
So medical doctors or PhDs, andof course I was a kid working
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on my bachelor's degree, and soI didn't qualify.
But I called up DrGazella-Zuszkowski, who was the
teacher.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I know that name.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And so I called her
up and somehow she said we're
doing a nine day training andintensive and I'll let you in.
And so I went there.
It was the first time I wasaway by myself anywhere and it
was like 12 hour days and therewas about 10 of us and I was the
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only one that wasn't a doctorthat was in the room.
So I'm hanging out withsuccessful people, which I never
thought of myself that way, andand I just got my mind blown.
I mean, it was just one amazingexperience after another after
another after another.
I used to chronically bite mynails till they bled.
I couldn't stop because, youknow, when you're nervous you
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have that energy and it's got tocome out some way, and so so I
was always chewing my nailssince I was a little kid, till
they would bleed, and I hadtried band-aids sitting on my
hands, hot sauce, I mean youname it and I would still chew
them anyway, especially when Igot nervous, which is most of
the time and she hypnotized meto not chew my nails anymore and
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it worked.
And you know, to this day, Ihave strong, beautiful, healthy
fingernails, to this day.
You know, 30 something yearslater, 30, yeah, like 34 years
later, maybe something like that, I'm still still not doing.
It was incredible.
So.
And then I went back into myschool environment and the head
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of the department was making funof me because I said what about
hypnosis?
How come you don't teach ithere?
And they're like well, we'rebehavioralists, we don't believe
in that, we're more BF Skinnerand that kind of stuff doesn't
really exist anyway.
And I'm like well, do you haveany training in it?
Because I just got back fromnine days of watching it in a
room full of physicians and itwas amazing.
He got mad at me.
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He's like no, a lot of people,especially in authoritative
positions, are saying a lot ofthings and they have no
experience in it.
A lot of people talk about howhypnosis doesn't work, but
they've never been hypnotizedand they don't have any
experience.
Now I see therapists who aresaying that AI is unethical and
we're not ever using it and theyhave no experience in AI.
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So you know, this is a commonproblem that people have, and so
so I think it was that, baz,that it was that I actually
experienced a change.
I experienced what we call atransformation or a breakthrough
, and then it happened again.
And then it happened again,first for myself.
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Then I started just readingscripts, like the first person
that I hypnotized was my dad tohelp him stop smoking, and I
read a script out of a book andhe stopped smoking, which
shocked both of us.
And so then I started doingthis with other people and I
found that the hypnosis wasworking way better than the
cognitive behavioral therapyapproaches that I was using.
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And so when I'm gettingpersonal results and then I'm
helping other people get results, and it's just working better
than all the other techniques.
That's why I stayed with it.
I don't care what works, I justwant it to work.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, I love what
you've just said there because
what I find I've had a lot ofconversations over my time doing
these interviews and coachingbut one thing is common and it's
the people who have gonethrough the hard stuff the
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alcohol stuff, the, theself-loathing, et cetera, et
cetera who make the best people,who make the best
transformationalists, becausethey know what it's like on the
other end of the tunnel whenthey're in.
You're in personally, in thetunnel going.
This is not who I am and fromwhat you were saying earlier,
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the alcohol and the, the stemfrom somewhere, but you did
something about it and, like yousaid, the belief systems that
people have, um in the 70s, 80sare gen x.
So 70s, 80s and into the 90s,we're different.
We're a different model.
We were, we had most of usunknowingly had very
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narcissistic parents not theirfault, just what it was but that
transferred on to us.
We were told we're not allowed,we're not worthy, we.
Money grows on tree doesn'tgrow on trees bloody blah.
Jesus is always watching you.
All of these belief systemswere transferred hereditary
through to us.
Is that something that you findwith your majority of your
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clients?
And is there one singularproblem or challenge your
clients have.
That you come across time andtime again.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Um, yes, so the
biggest core unconscious belief
that we all have is that I'm notgood enough, and that feeling
of not being enough drives thefear of failure, the fear of
being rejected, the fear ofbeing humiliated, the fear of
being abandoned, the fear thatmakes us chase approval, the
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fear that caused us to tostruggle constantly with money.
You have it and then you don't.
You have it and then you don'twhat we call the feast or famine
model.
We struggle with ourrelationships.
It's like we walk around withempty cups and we want everybody
else to fill us up, and then wefight with each other when
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nobody feels fulfilled, and andso we have to learn how to fill
ourselves up.
So we walk around with allthese beliefs, and these beliefs
come from the experiences thatwe go through, and those
experiences I call them big Tand little T traumas.
Right, so little T traumas oryou get embarrassed.
You know, in the class, in thefront of the classroom, somebody
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says some hurtful comment toyou, like an authority figure, a
teacher, a parent, I mean.
When I was going to school,strangers could hit you.
You know, adult strangers couldpaddle you in school or throw
you across the classroom, or notjust your dad, but your buddy's
dad could hit you.
And then you come home and yourdad would be like well, what'd
you do, right?
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I mean, it's completelydifferent model than than what
we have now, where everybody'sbeing wrapped in bubble wrap.
We've gone, we've swung theother way Right and the other
extreme.
We need to find our middle,which is what we're always
trying to do.
So so when we go through thoselittle traumas not being picked
to be on the team, your bestfriend goes out with your
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girlfriend you know all thoselittle things.
It can really hurt us.
And then you have the big Ttraumas, which are the physical
abuse, the emotional, the sexualabuse, the verbal abuse, a
death in the family, an illness.
You know the unexpected thingsthat happen to us.
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Sometimes an event is traumaticjust because it was so
unexpected, and so it forms abelief in our brain, and that
belief in our brain drives thesymptoms that come afterwards.
So when we talk about PTSD, forexample, or or chronic PTSD,
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it's the beliefs that areunderneath it all.
You know the beliefs of am Ievil?
The beliefs of am I worthy?
The beliefs of you know Iwasn't, I shouldn't have been
the one that survived.
I mean all these beliefs thatwe end up having when people go
through sexual assault.
It's, you know, I'm tainted now, I'm dirty, I'm not good enough
, right.
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When we go through poverty, thenwe have this belief that I'm
not deserving.
That's where imposter syndromecomes from, you know.
Then we struggle to stayfocused, we procrastinate when
it comes to relationships.
If we feel like I'm not safe,then we become very jealous, we
become very self-centered, andso we fight about everything
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because we're comfortable withthe chaos more than the peace,
even though everybody says theywant peace.
So these beliefs I found itwasn't just the experiences, it
was the beliefs that weredriving our behavior that
mattered more than anything else.
And so I became a belief hunter.
Right, I find the beliefs, Iupgrade them and we replace, we
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pull those mental weeds and wereplace them with flowers,
because self-love is the key.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I love that and I
think what you've just said is
going to resonate with a lot ofpeople who are listening to this
right now going well, thatsounds like oh, that sounds oh.
And it starts to make sense.
Tim, I want to pause it herefor part one.
Is there anything you'd love toleave the audience with that
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can tickle their little brains?
Before we end for part one andpause for part two, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
so I have discovered
over these 30 years that you are
one belief away from having asignificant breakthrough in your
life, and in the next episode,I'm going to teach you my
three-step strategy for how tomake those breakthroughs.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Tim, you're amazing
and you're graceful.
You actually shine.
There's few people that Iactually meet on these podcasts,
but there's something about you.
You glow and I really like thatabout you.
So thank you For my viewers,for my listeners, thank you very
much for joining us.
Please like, subscribe andshare the video.
It may change somebody's life.
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From myself and from Tim.
We'll see you on part two.
Talk soon.