All Episodes

June 18, 2025 17 mins

Your grandmother's dying words are still controlling your life. In this explosive Part 2, Michelle Ward reveals how childhood promises and deathbed commitments create invisible emotional prisons that have been sabotaging your happiness for decades.

Discover the shocking connection between trapped emotions stored in your body and chronic pain, anxiety, and relationship struggles that traditional medicine can't heal. Michelle's revolutionary emotional code healing approach uses muscle testing therapy and vital force energy techniques to release emotional energy blocks that manifest as physical ailments.

Through her vulnerable story about her grandmother's instruction to "keep the family together" and her father's deathbed promise, Michelle exposes how inherited emotional patterns create cycles of self-sacrifice that destroy personal fulfillment. Learn how these subconscious emotional blocks control your adult decisions without your awareness.

Michelle's coaching practice demonstrates how holistic healing methods rooted in quantum physics can eliminate decades of suffering in minutes. From chronic back pain disappearing instantly to anxiety and energy healing that transforms both humans and animals, the results prove that emotional energy release addresses the root cause of most physical and emotional struggles.

Especially powerful for women over 45 experiencing identity loss after motherhood and navigating major life transitions, Michelle's approach helps you distinguish between who you are versus the roles you play. Discover how releasing trapped emotions can unlock your vital force energy and transform both your internal and external worlds.

Ready to identify what emotional energies are holding you back and break free from unconscious commitments that have been controlling your life? This conversation reveals the exact muscle testing therapy techniques and emotional code healing methods that can finally set you free from inherited emotional programming.

Send us a text

Support the show

Listen, if you're a female executive who just listened to another incredible transformation story on Rice Me Issues and thought "That's amazing... but could I actually do that?"

Stop right there.

That little voice whispering you're not good enough? It's lying.

Here's the thing every single guest Baz Porter interviews on this show started exactly where you are right now. Struggling with self-worth. Questioning their abilities. Wondering if they had what it takes.

But here's what separates the women who break through from those who stay stuck: they take action on their inner game FIRST.

That's why Bass created something special just for high-achieving women like you who are tired of playing small despite their success.

It's a FREE 5-Day Meditation Series designed specifically for female executives who are ready to silence that inner critic once and for all.

No fluff. No generic affirmations. Just proven techniques that work for busy, ambitious women who need results fast.

Ready to finally feel as confident on the inside as you appear on the outside?

Grab your free meditation series at CEO IMPACT

Because your next level of success is waiting... and it starts with believing you deserve it.

Or Check Out www.bazporter.com

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
ladies and gentlemen, back to part two of royce
miniaturist.
I am joined again with michelleward.
In the first episode we wentthrough her challenges with her
husband, the realization thatthe world isn't in her little
frame, and she came out of itrather different.
That journey took her toelevated places, not just with

(00:23):
herself and her life, but alsowhere she's going next, in her
vision and in her own values.
Michelle, welcome back.
And this is all about you,where you're going and your
message to millions.
What is your driving force oryour driving value when you're
serving other people?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I think that people keep themselves so small and
they don't realize how greatthey are and what potential they
have.
The thing that drives me is Iwant to unearth that, ignite
that potential in people.
I want them to see their beautyand their worth and see that
they're capable of anything.
I should circle back aroundwith my husband when I changed

(01:10):
myself, when I was like I'mgoing to see what I can do on my
end.
I told him I don't need you formy happiness, but I want you in
my life.
We've been married at thatpoint for 23 years.
I started to change and I waspraying for a resurrection, a
restoration, because I didn'trestore what was bad.
I wanted to die.
We have a wonderful marriagenow.
It is a resurrection.
It is what a marriage should be, in my opinion.

(01:32):
I had to change first and myinternal world changed, so my
external world changed.
The name of coaching business isElan Vittal, and Elan Vittal
means vital force.
It's a phrase coined by aFrench philosopher in 1907 about
innate power we are born withat a cellular level.
The book was called CreativeEvolution.
Over time, because ofconditioning and the programming

(01:53):
, we that vital force, peoplelook for empowerment from
outside sources instead of youknow, looking internally and
digging deep passions.
What do I love?
What do I care about?
Who am I?
I'm Michelle.
I'm Bo's wife, I'm Tessa andElla's mom, but that's not who I
am.
That's just descriptors of whatI do.

(02:14):
Who am I really?
I'm a child of God.
I'm a powerful being, and I sithere for a reason I want to
show other people that theyaren't who they think they are.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I love that distinction because when I've
interviewed a large amount ofpeople over the time of being
coaching and doing other thingsand in the podcast, it's
interesting on conversationseven outside of this, when we
say so who are you?
They go into what they do andhow other people see them.
They don't actually say I amand then go into who they are.
They identify with the thingsand the external components

(02:54):
around them that make up whatthey do to justify their
existence.
It's an interesting conceptvery few people bring up, so I'm
glad you did, which brings meback to the emotional source
code, sorry, the emotional code,the body massage and the body
messaging.
How is it released?

(03:14):
You got tapping emotions thatheal just more than the pain.
The emotional energy getstrapped in the body the
manifesting and the chronicstress and self-doubt, physical
symptoms.
How are these released and howdoes it create space in a deep
self-trust that is sustainable,not just now but in the future,

(03:40):
for ongoing transformation?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, it's a very simple but profound thing.
Everything is energy.
Energy cannot be created ordestroyed.
It can take different forms.
So are emotions.
Emotions are energy.
Through times in our life we mayperceive or feel something in a
situation.
A lot of times we process it,but sometimes we cannot process
those emotions.

(04:02):
They get trapped in littleballs of energy in the body and
in vulnerable places.
If you're geneticallypredisposed to a certain thing,
whether it be anxiety ormigraines or back pain, it might
manifest that way.
This can happen in an instant.
You can have several of thesame emotions from different
experiences.
They all have differentenergetic signatures get trapped

(04:32):
.
What I do is connect to thesubconscious mind.
I'm not a psychic.
I can't know what you'rethinking.
I use muscle testing on myselfand ask yes or no questions to
the person I'm working on, basedon what their issue is.
For example, if they presentwith a migraine headache, then
I'll say is there a trappedemotion that is contributing to
this migraine headache?
In the holistic health spacethere's a saying that anything
can cause anything.

(04:52):
A migraine headache can belinked to breakup with a
boyfriend whenever you were 16years old, because there are
emotions tied to that, and so wecan find those emotions,
release them by running my handover the governing meridian and
dissolves, and people feelrelief instantly most of the
time.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
So what you're doing is using quantum physics and
meridians to reset or remove ortransmit energy.
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
So what you're speaking to now I love, because
your psychic can pick up onenergy.
That's not just you.
Everybody has this gift.
We have different ways ofexplaining it, Channeling,
mediumship, whatever you call it.
It's the same thing at its rootsource the dimensions that
people have, the energy centers,the torus which is all around

(05:46):
us and the energy force aroundyou.
Every compartment has an accesscode to tap into energy.
No-transcript.
What you're speaking about now,I love, because most people are
trying to understand this, can'tthey think, still in that
mindset of it's worthless?

(06:06):
The only thing that will everchange you, as you've
experienced, michelle, isyourself Driving forward to not
be that person causing all ofthe stuff in your life.
Causing all the stuff in yourlife.

(06:27):
Tony Robbins once said you're80% responsible for everything
that happens in your life andbusiness.
I disagree with him.
It's a hundred percent ofeverything.
You can track it back to asingle moment.
You do this very well, michelle, by going back into the root
causes of emotions andunderstanding them, and then
remove or reset them in astructured way that is proven to

(06:49):
work.
What are some of the resultsyou've experienced with some of
your clients?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay.
So just recently I was workingon somebody who had chronic back
pain.
She said it comes in waves.
At the time of our meeting Iasked everybody to rate their
pain from zero to like zero isnothing to 10 unbearable.
She rated it an eight.
I connected with her.
I'd started with the emotionsand after about five emotions I

(07:16):
identified and released, I saidcan you get up and walk around
and see if there's any shift?
She got up and sat back downwith a big smile on her face.
I said did you feel any shift?
And she said I felt it as soonas I got out of the chair.
She said I was afraid I wasn'tgoing to be able to get up
because my pain is so bad, butright now it's at two and I was
like okay, that's good, let'ssee if we can get it down to a

(07:36):
zero.
So we worked on three moreemotions and released three more
emotions and the pain was goneand it hasn't come back.
That's one example.
I can tell you for myself.
There's this thing called aheart wall and most people I
think 92% of people have a heartwall and this is emotions that

(07:58):
guard our heart.
Think of an onion.
It's just layer upon layer.
Some people have 25 emotions intheir heart, maybe some people
have four.
I started breaking down myheart wall.
Just doing the emotion code onmyself, seeing what heart wall
emotions there were, I wouldidentify the age this happened.
I was like, oh yeah, I knowwhat that was.
Anyway, I released the heartwall.

(08:18):
It wasn't until two or threemonths after that I realized
some of the things.
I'd gotten no contact with mymom about almost a year ago
because of some things that hadbeen going on for about 20 years
, and that's a whole otherpodcast or story.
But what I realized now lookingback, is that I had set a

(08:39):
boundary for myself and I set aboundary expecting her to change
and my heart on that completelychanged.
And I do believe it's because Ireleased that hard wall.
I'm like no, you have to seewhat I'm talking about, you have
to understand where I'm comingfrom.
And she said I don't see myselfthat way, I don't see myself
doing that, and it was sofrustrating.

(08:59):
But at some point I was likeyou know what, mom, I love you
and I can't change you.
I was working on a dog who hadgreat anxiety around
thunderstorms and there was athunderstorm in the area.
Her owner was like can you seewhat you can do about that,
because she'll keep me up allnight.
I did some work on her andfound abandonment and fear and
all this anxiety Released that.

(09:20):
That night her owner told meshe slept through the night, did
not wake me up.
There were tornadoes in thearea.
Normally she would have beenpanting up and down, freaking
out all night.
So she slept like a baby.
So it works for animals too.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Win-win.
And what's the?
I'm intrigued now because youdo animals.
What's the biggest animal?
Have you worked on any, a horseor anything else?

Speaker 2 (09:40):
No, I haven't worked on a horse.
Yeah, I did my own cat too.
She was biting all the time.
You get a pet.
Whenever I did it on the bitingand she doesn't bite anymore.
What should I?
Cleo?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
I've got two cats, Max and Moila.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I love those names.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
They're rescues.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
She showed up on our driveway one day and I was like
I guess we're keeping her.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I one day and I was like I guess we're keeping her.
I want to go back into what isthe emotional promise.
What emotional promise did youunknowingly make as a child that
still influences your lifetoday?
It's quite a powerful questionactually.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, so it's really interesting.
Three weeks ago I was like, oh,this totally makes sense.
Growing up, it was reallyimportant that our family spent
all this time with our cousinsand grandparents, and it was the
maternal side.
It was always important that wedo these family vacations
together and no one could miss.
If you miss, you got in trouble.
So no one missed.
My grandmother, when she waspassing away, was living here in

(10:35):
Dallas where I live.
I'd go pick her up the homethat she was living in and bring
her home for dinner and she'dalways say, Michelle, it's your
job to keep the family together.
You've got to keep the familytogether.
I was like, okay, joyce, Iunderstand family is really
important.
I was the only one she saidthat.
To Fast forward, a few yearsago there was a family dispute

(10:56):
that happened in my home and Idid not like how it was handled.
I was like y'all aren't comingback to my house again until I
get an apology.
I didn't get an apology.
About nine months went by and Iwas like I can't not have
everybody here for Thanksgiving,because that's what I've always
done.
I've been doing it for 20 years.
So I'm going to have the familyback, regardless of what
happened last year, it was themost uncomfortable Thanksgiving

(11:18):
for me.
I felt like a stranger in myown home.
I was like I'm not doing thatagain because the elephant was
still in the room.
The second thing is when my dadwas on his deathbed my mom has
an alcohol use disorder.
She was drinking the entiretime I was taking care of him.
They called in hospice to hishome and on three different
occasions he turned to me, saidMichelle, I'm really worried

(11:40):
about your mom and her drinking.
I was like Dad, it's okay, I'mgoing to take care of mom.
I did not realize that I hadconsciously but subconsciously
made this promise to my dad andto my grandmother that I was
responsible for everybody elsein the family, regardless of how
I was treated or whatever wasgoing on.
I was just supposed to brush itunder the rug and I just

(12:02):
recognized that's where that wascoming from.
And that's also why it was easyfor me to talk to my mom after
nine months of not speaking toher and just say you know what?
It's your responsibility tochange yourself.
No amount of boundaries that Iset for you is going to change
anything.
So I had to accept her for whoshe is, accept her for how she
shows up and not expect anythingfrom her.

(12:25):
Tell my dad I love you and Iknow you love mom and that's why
you were concerned about her.
But I've got to release thisand I have, and it's an amazing
thing thank you for beingvulnerable and sharing that.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
No matter what happens, you still love them and
you don't like somebody, whatthey do right, you still love
them and they brought you intothis world.
There's Many challenges we gothrough in life.
It's an honor to have theseconversations with you, because
you're not only identifying whatyou're overcoming in your
personal life, but also helpingother people In the ideal world.

(12:59):
Someone's looking for you.
Who's your ideal client?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
So my ideal client women 45 and over.
Maybe they're empty nesters orbecoming empty nesters, they're
going into menopause and havelost their identity.
For me it was the girl's mom,bo's wife, the volunteer at the
church school.
Who am I and how do I tap backinto that?
Potential Women going back intothe field of work or looking to

(13:25):
make a career change?
But they don't see the valuethey can bring to the world.
And when you're standing in,see the value they can bring to
the world and when you'restanding in the frame, you can't
see the picture.
I'm standing outside the frameso I can see the big picture and
I can see the beauty, love andwisdom in all the people I meet.
So I just want them to tap intothat themselves.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Thank you for sharing .
Where can people find you?
I know on LinkedIn is one ofthem.
Then where else do you want tosend people?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
yeah, so my website is elonvitall-coachingcom.
You can set up a discovery call.
I offer a 30-minute freeconsultation.
You can take a self-sabotagequiz and see what I offer, what
I do, who I am.
That's probably the best way,or LinkedIn is another great way
to find me.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Words.
Okay, I've got a question foryou.
If you could have aconversation with your
eight-year-old self, what wouldyou tell that child?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
That's a great question and I do actually talk
to my eight-year-old self.
I talk to my three-year-oldself and my teenage self and I
say, michelle, thank you so muchfor being so strong and for
doing what you had to do to getus here.
I get a little teary about it,because that eight-year-old girl
that was just trying to beaccepted, or trying to be loved,

(14:41):
or trying to be noticed didn'trealize the things that she was
going to have to go through inorder to become us now.
Thank you, thank you, thank youfor surviving.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
This is why I like asking some of these questions
because they're random but theymatter.
I really want to share yourmessage and who you truly are
with people who don'tnecessarily know this exists.
People have this facade.
I have this challenge where I'mon LinkedIn.
My clientele is women 44 andabove, but they're corporate.

(15:15):
They have all this brandingaround them and they've built up
these castles.
They never want to come onlineand say, yes, I have a problem.
No, so all of this jargon thatthey've built up is this wall,
and conversations like thisallow that wall to be lowered
enough to see your human, andthat's who they gravitate

(15:38):
towards.
Thank you for being vulnerableand sharing.
Michelle.
Thank you very much for yourtime, your love, your energy and
your presence in the world.
You're awesome.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Thanks for doing what you do.
Thank you for just being whoyou are, putting yourself out
there and having the courage todo this.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's a craziness, not courage.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
We can package it.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Thank you very much for listening.
Please download, share andchange someone's life.
This is the Rise From theEnergy podcast.
I'm Baz Porter, and my guesttoday in episode two is Michelle
Ward.
Any questions reach out to.
Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

The Breakfast Club

The Breakfast Club

The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy And Charlamagne Tha God!

The Joe Rogan Experience

The Joe Rogan Experience

The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.