March 1, 2021 • 38 mins
I had the privilege of connecting with Dr. Tasnuva, who is now a dear friend in the autism community. Not only is she an autism advocate for her son, she has created her own signature program to help other people, utilizing her background in pharmacy and all that she has learned with helping her son and his abilities. She is absolutely inspiring.
Dr. Tasnuva is a Pharmacist with a PhD in Natural Medicine. She has been an Assistant Professor of Pharmacy at her Alma mater in Bangladesh. She is also a published research scientiest on Stress and Natural Medicinal Approach.
She is a holistic Health Advocate, a mom of 3 with a kid on the spectrum and living in Ottawa, Canada. Her experience in helping her autism child thrive, verbalise and supercharge has given her the knowledge and desire to help others. Now she is working as an Autism Health Coach helping Autism Kids with Language, speech, communication and other physical and cognitive developmental delays to get successful.
Her 5 pillars to supercharging and supporting autism kids is transcribed in her Signature program The Autism Diet. Sign up for her newsletter and join her tribe in the links below to get help and support by your side.
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Hey everyone, and welcome to the rise with the
light podcast. My name is SusanFink and this is my weekly
podcast dedicated to supportingfamilies raising children with
special needs. I'm on a missionto provide hope and positivity
through sharing my personalinsights, stories, mindset
perspectives, and ways tonavigate through this journey.
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Hi, everyone. And thank you somuch for joining me today. And
thank you so much for all yourfollows your messages and
support. You have no idea whatall of that means to me, and I
appreciate it so much. And ifyou haven't yet subscribed or
followed this podcast, please dothat now so that you don't miss
another episode. Now I'm soexcited to tell you that I have
a great guest with me today. Hername is Dr. Tess nuvem. She's a
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pharmacist with a PhD in naturalmedicine. She's been an
assistant professor of pharmacyat her alma mater in Bangladesh.
And she is also a publishedresearch scientist on stress and
natural medicinal approaches.
She's also a mom of three andone of her kids is on the autism
spectrum. Her experience andhelping her autism child thrive
verbalize and supercharge hasgiven her knowledge and desire
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to help others. Now she'sworking as an autism health
coach helping autism kids withlanguage speech and
communication and other physicaland cognitive development delays
to get success. Now how does shedo this, she created a five
pillar to supercharging andsupporting autism kids that is
transcribed in her signatureprogram the autism diet. Now you
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can sign up for her newsletterand join her tribe in the links
that I'm providing within thedescription of this podcast and
listen to her story. She talksthrough her experience and
changing her son's diet andtaking control and figuring out
what the resources are to helpher son now many of us are
always waiting for others totell us what to do or to tell us
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how to help and oftentimes thatwheat takes a long time. I don't
know if you've had experiencewith this. If you are shaking
your head right now may have hadexperience waiting on a waitlist
to get services, waiting monthsfor a diagnosis talking to your
pediatrician and maybe notgetting the any answers or any
support even from an emotionalperspective. So Dr. Toss, nueva
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has developed a way in whichthat has helped her child and
she wants to share thatinformation and to help other
people. Now here's my interviewwith Dr. Toss Nova. Hi,
everyone. And thank you forjoining us today. I'm so excited
to have Dr. Tess nouveau with usto share her story and all of
the wisdom she brings to theautism community. So Tess nuba
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is also a coach. She focuses onearly autism recovery for
children, and personaldevelopment for parents. So toss
Neva, thank you so much forjoining me, it's so awesome that
we can connect this way youbeing in Canada and me being in
California. So this is so greatthat we can connect and we found
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each other. So thank you so muchfor joining me today. Thank you
so much for in the first place,you know, calling me to be a
part of your show. I really amloving what you're doing because
very few people actually talkabout mindset and the way that
that's the best way of you know,handling situation and life in
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general. Thank you so much. Andwelcome, everyone. I'm so happy
to hear that. Thank you so much.
And I wanted to go ahead andreally jump into get to know you
and for the listeners to alsoget to know you. And so maybe
you can tell us a little bitabout your family. And I know
that you are a single mom justlike me, and also just about
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your son's diagnosis. So I'dlove to have the listeners learn
more about you. So let's startat the beginning. I was kind of
forced to marry when I was 21.
pretty young, because it's likea cultural thing. So the guy
that I married, I got my firstson from him. He was having
affairs, okay. And at one point,he just left us and ran away.
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And I was you know, like,first I actually came to know
about him when I was like noabout him having affairs when I
was 40 days pregnant. Okay, soit was one of the hardest blow
that I had and trying to get himback and whatnot. But even after
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my son was born, things didn'twork out. And so I just left him
and I started saying stayingwith my parents and after that,
I left mytwo year old son and went to
Malaysia for my PhD. And I havebeen over there for like five
years, my son was on and offwith me and sometimes with my
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parents, because you know, PhDis like a very, very tough part
of the job or study part. So itwas very hard for me to care for
both him and study as well asArne. So I would leave him with
my parents in Bangladesh, andstay in Malaysia for like, a
chunk of time. And then I got myPhD, after which my parents
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thought enough, like, you havebeen alone for six years, and
you are just 28 year old, wedon't want you to stay all
alone. They talked me intomarrying again, for the six
years of time I was, I wasalone. And I do understand the
single mom traumas and whatnot,because you know, when you are
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single, guys, other people tendto think that it's easy to get
us or easy to have us I don'tknow, like, I was more flustered
by guys in general. And, youknow, people will kind of look
down on me, and they won't eveninvite me, there will be couples
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and families inviting eachother. And then I will always be
the one not invited. So allthose things, it hurt my parents
more than it hurt me, I guess.
So theymade me marry again. So what Not
so with my second marriage, Ihad my son after my PhD. So it
was a very stressful time forme. And when I had him
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initially, he didn't show anyany problem, you know, he was
totally fine. But after aboutsix or seven months, my parents
my mom's specially she noticedthat he wouldn't look into her
eyes or in our eyes. And youknow, my mom kept saying like,
see, he your son is not supposedto be like this. He's supposed
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to when you call him he'ssupposed to look at you. And
he's supposed to interact, he'ssupposed to introduce himself,
or you know, like, say hi, andlook at people and whatnot,
right? Like to have the socialnorms. Yeah, social interaction
cues. Yeah, social norms. So Ididn't put that much effort on
him on the part because how doesit I have ADHD, I still do I
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have ADHD, so I'm aneurodiverse. person, and I
loved to always stay alone, youknow, in a, like, stay in a
corner, read books, or don'tplay with people don't mingle
with people so much. So when Isaw him not interacting with
others, I just thought of himas, like a kid having, you know,
add, probably he will be havinga leaf since his mother has
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ADHD, and he's not showinginterest to mingle with others
or look towards others, I justthought, you know, he just have
some issues which he will growout of it. But after about two
years, still, things didn'timprove. He just could say only
Ma, and no other word. Andafter, after some time, he also
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stopped using that word, youknow, you wouldn't use any word,
he will babble. And thenhe had other like communication
and language problems. So whenwe took him to a pediatrician,
he sort of like diagnosed himand then referred us to another
autism diagnosis. So we got himdiagnosed, but over there in our
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country that happened in ourcountry, and this, they said,
like, you know,he doesn't have that much of a
problem. He just have delays.
Because he's very young child.
He's just two years. So let'swait for one more year and see
how things goes. And right afterthat time, we got our visa for
Canada, you know, as a PR, so weshifted here. And before we came
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here, I got pregnant with mythird. That was
in 2019. So after we came inCanada, I was pregnant seven
months and I was totally alone.
Totally, like at all It alwayshad to stain in the home and
then my husband would beoutside. So
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things got a little bad with myson. Okay, and after my daughter
was born, he started showinglots of aggression, lots of
irritation, he started banginghis head, he would jump from,
you know, high places and thenfall down headfirst, like, like,
he's actually trying to hurthimself like that. Okay. And one
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time he also tried to kinda ranaway and you know, so I got
really scared because he was notjust hurting himself. He was
also trying to hurt my, myyounger one. And he actually
threw my daughter from theBet a few times, okay, so you do
understand that very, verystressful time. So I went to
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another pediatrician here andthen we were put for the
diagnosis and fought for, youknow, how these things goes
usually in the Western world,the autism diagnosis as well as
going through the process takesa lot of time. Okay, so we have
been waiting for about seven oreight months and things,
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nobody's calling us and hiscondition started more
regressing. And, you know, oneday I was like, I had enough,
because he was really hard tohandle. Okay, I was going
through a very bad phase ofdepression. And I was under
psych therapy, and I was alsolabeled as an emergency, you
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know, I had to my husband had acamera put, you know, the motion
detecting camera in my home, sothat he could detect if I was
trying to either kill myself ordo something weird. So yeah, and
at one point, I was like, Thisis not what I was born. This is
not what my child was born to gothrough. Or, you know, we came
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to Canada to have a better life.
But things started going so bad.
I just, I just left, you know,felt so out of touch with
myself. And there was nothing Icould do, just waiting. And I'm
not a person to wait. I believemyself to be resourceful. So
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what I did is I started my ownresearch, okay. And being a
pharmacist with a PhD in naturalmedicine, I have ideas on and
study actually education onhuman anatomy, physiology,
pharmacology, and all thosethings as well as natural
medicine. So I thought, ratherthan wait for the traditional
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way of, you know, getting my sondiagnosed and go through
therapies and whatnot, let's trysomething else. So I found
myself, Doctor Who does a littlebit of Ayurvedic, like a
diabetic practitioner. So hetold me to change his diet and
see how that goes. And in thecourse of changing his diet, and
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putting him into, you know,experimenting, what works with
him, what doesn't, what helps, Ilearned a lot, okay, and we
started with a child who wouldnot chew, my son couldn't chew
at all, okay, he would just Gulphis food, he couldn't sleep, we
had to put him like, like threeor four hours of struggle
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between him awake and you know,asleep at night, he will stay
awake. If you don't put him tobed, he can stay awake until
2022 22 hours. I tried thatalso, okay. So with the newborn,
with my staff with him,from there, to now, you know,
he's talking, he's eating andsleeping properly, his weight,
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and everything is on par. Wealso got a little speech therapy
session with him. The speechtherapists say that, because we
were referred to her a long timeago, and we were told, you know,
she was referred in a way thatmy son cannot speak at all, no
words. So when we did the teston him, over the videos, you
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know, zoom calls. So the speechpathologist was really austrack.
She was like, I came to themeeting, knowing that your son
doesn't have any word. But now Isee he's talking to you in
sentence, how did you do it? SoI was like, you know, I did try
to discuss a little bit abouthow I did the journey with the
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changing of thing of his dietand his lifestyle, as well as
how we parent him, how we seehim, we try to understand him,
all those things that goes withit? Well, I think a lot of
listeners can really resonatewith a lot of things that you
said, I mean, the sleepchallenges, the verbal
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challenges, and the impact thatthat was having on you and your
own psyche and the depressionthat you were going through, I
mean, the fact that your husbandneeded to put, you know, a video
camera to make sure that youwere okay. You know, I think a
lot of people can resonate withthat. Because, as parents, a lot
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of times we feel helpless and wedon't know what to do and we
don't know how to manage our ownemotions and how to deal with
what is going on. And, you know,it's not something that we're
trained in. You know, we don'tget a manual of being parents,
let alone having a child withautism, the amount of stress and
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pressureThat was on you is something
that a lot of us go through aswell. And what I love about your
story is the resourcefulnessthat you had, you know, you were
waiting. And this is a waitinggame, a lot of people have to
wait for a diagnosis they haveto wait for, you know, they're
on a waitlist to receiveservices, they have to wait for
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people. I mean, it's, theprocess is already just so
lengthy, but you were just, youknow, I'm going to take things
into my own hands, and youstarted researching and figuring
out other alternatives. And withyour background as well, you
know, we're able to find thesolution with a diet and to see
the shift that your son washaving from having these
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behaviors and having thesechallenges to now after making
these lifestyle changes, seeingthat that had such a positive
impact. And it's no wonder whyyou're trying to help other
people, something that you and Italked about before was by
helping other parents by helpingother people, we also heal
ourselves because we are alsogoing through all of these
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things at the same time. So andyou turned your weakness of
having depression and having allof these negative emotions into
being so strong and such a hugeadvocate and delivering results
that other people were not ableto do that for you and your son.
So I just I'm just so enamoredby you, and so inspired by you.
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And like I said, I think a lotof people can really relate to
you. And I know you're sohumble, as well. So you know,
you have to give yourself a lotof credit. What were some of
those changes that you made interms of his diet? I know that's
a big part of what you focus onwith helping other parents, but
maybe, you know, and we all knowthat not everything works for
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everyone else, right? Everychild is different. But what do
you think were the main thingsthat you changed in your son's
diet that really helped to makea lot of these you know,
movements forward. First of all,we started where everyone else
starts with a gluten free dairyfree diet. And I have to say
also working with my son andworking with others, what they
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see is firstly, when your bodyis healthy, when your body your
the digestive system can reallyfunction properly, whatever you
eat, the nutrients willdefinitely be absorbed and go
into your brain for the brainfunction as well as go into the
other body parts for the bodyfunctions, right. So what I
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started thinking is there is asaying like you are what you
eat, and with my knowledge offood and with my knowledge of
natural medicine, it reallyresonated with me that diet
should be a part of it. And alot of the time why parents
don't see results with a certaintype of diet. There are reasons
which I found out later on. AndI would like to share here
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otherwise, just giving a sort oflike a part may not be helpful
for others I'm really trying tohelp others here. So what I
started with him is going fromgluten free, dairy free and then
trying to see what works andthen I saw a little bit of the
shift last the doctor actuallygave me some aerobatic tonics to
help improve his digestion aswell as to help if evacuation
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system you know, the pooping inorder because a lot of the kids
have constipation problem evenwith good food because when he
was born, I actually promisedmyself and my husband that my
son will not have outside foodeven before we know he has all
these things that my son willnot have outside food, you know,
chips, Cola, all those things,because healthy eating is a very
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much important part of me of whoI am. Because I have always been
a health nerd. And I've alwaysbeen on this health
consciousness. So definitely, ithits me a lot harder, because I
was doing everything properly. Iwas giving him all good food,
and then why Will my son haveproblem, you know, developmental
delay, because he you know, hedidn't have any sort of trauma
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or any problems. So why suddenlyhe is not being the person that
he should be. So working withthat doctor, I actually worked
with him like two sessions,actually, he gave me the norms
of going through the diet, likea little bit of what I should or
should not feed him. And then hejust gave me the idea of that
arithmetic, you know, tonic tohelp your digestion system. And
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I took that thing into the nextlevel, why the diet part doesn't
work, because it's not a simpleapproach. It's not one size fits
all. It is dependent on thecondition of the child of the
condition of his digestivesystem and whatever goes inside
and the way that I worked withmy son was tweaking not just the
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diet part but alsosupplementation also how he eats
food when he eats food, whatkind of combination of food to
give him to help heal his body.
You know, all those things. Soit's not like very
straightforward but so far thesimplest way of saying that is
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The gluten free diet didn't helpthat much. When we shifted to
the grain free diet, we saw thelargest amount of impact
throughout that period. And he'sstill doing free, he would have
it very occasionally, like maybeif it's his birthday, or if it's
our anniversary, you know,special occasion, very
occasionally he will have greenbased things. But otherwise, he
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just have natural fruits andvegetables and organic meats as
much as possible, because youknow, organic stuff are very
expensive. So I tried to learnmore about it and try to
implement more because major ata portion of people in the world
are not in a very nice financialstate. Right, right. So for me,
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also, it was very hard becausewe were one income family, why I
think I can help and I do helpothers. Because I was able to
achieve all those things with aone income family, I was able to
give all the stuff that heneeded without being over
conscious without over stressingon organic food on special diets
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and whatnot. So that's why Ithink I can, I am able to help
others because I have thoseexperience on focusing on what
really works, which steps reallyworks, I don't like taking a
long time to point B from pointA. So what I found out with him
and working with my otherclients is I now have pretty
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structured protocol that iffollowed properly, usually gives
results within two months, itsounds like you are going
through some trial and error,right, you're looking at a lot
of variables, not only the foodand the type of diets a gluten
free, the grain free, but alsowhat time, you know, he was
eating, you know, differentpatterns that you were
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evaluating to see what wasactually delivering the results.
So I think a big message toparents is, as much as we want
to find a solution as much as wewant to find something that
works for our child, it may bethat trial and error, we have to
test and learn identify thingsthat you know, maybe it doesn't
work, but don't give up, youknow, don't give up and trying
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to find the solutions that workfor your child. And I think
that's something that is areally profound thing that
you're saying because you weretrying things and you didn't
give up, you know, you didn'tgive up when things weren't
necessarily showing results. SoI really like that part of your
journey. I would like to addhere, you know, a lot of parents
actually start to try. But thenthe problem is, first of all,
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your pediatrician doesn't sayanything about nutrition, right?
They never say anything aboutfood, they don't talk about it.
And even when you asked if thereany food or is there any diet I
should follow, they would sayjust keep them alive. You know,
even my doctor though, the onethat we showed my my Sania, here
in Canada, she was a very, very,very renowned person. She even
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said like, when I asked herShould I give him any special
diet or you know, supplements oryou know, anything that can
help, you know, just keep himalive, because these kids don't
eat properly, you know, justkeep him alive. So I was like,
Whatthe hell are you talking lady?
Just keep my child alive. Right?
It's kind of like, Okay, I willdefinitely, definitely keep them
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alive. But that's not whatyou're asking for.
Exactly. That's not what I'masking for. Because Yeah, these
kids are picky eaters. Amajority of these kids are picky
eaters. And the parents, whatthey do is, first of all, they
don't get the emotional andsupport, you know, medical
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support from the doctor sayingthat, yes, you can try a diet,
you can try going gluten free,or dairy free or both, or even
green fee, you know, try yourway which one works, then don't
talk about it. That's oneproblem. And then the other
problem is everyone is notscientist, everyone is not
having background on pharmacy,or health science or you know,
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stuff like that, that will havea solid foundation of what our
body is all about and how itworks and functions. So a lot of
parents get scared also to try.
You know, like, what if I triedthis and then something happens,
right? Because when you don'tknow certain aspects you are
more scared to try. So what theparent does is like they just
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want to be in the safe side. Andthen they just keep trying to
feed the child whatever he wantsto eat because and then you
know, as early as you start isthe best time because as you
grow older, as the kid getsolder, it's hard to change the
diet and all those other shiftsthat needs to be done. Okay. I
have worked with a two year oldkid I have worked with four year
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old kid with a seven year oldand also within 617 year old
Okay, so what I found was theearliest I got a child
to work on, I could get thefaster result. Why? Because
those kids are having less ofthe body issues. Because the
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older a tree is, the harder itsroots are right? The deeper the
roots, yes, it's hard to pullthem out. Right? So it's harder
to pull them out, right. Sothat's why I like to try I try
to create awareness on this andtalk to parents about trying as
soon as possible. And also, whatI teach them is just changing
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diet will not give you the bestresult, or the fastest result
for the fastest result, you needto understand what goes on
inside his body and why he islike this. I'm not saying or I'm
not trying to imply because achild eats grain, he's having
autism, it's not like that.
Okay, what what I'm trying tosay is Autism is a developmental
delay kind of thing, okay, yourkids brain is not functioning
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properly. And as we helpprofessionals know that for any
body body organs, for any of theorgans to work properly, it
needs to be fed properly, itneeds to have good environment,
okay? I use this analogy a lot.
Like you know, your if your soilis fertile and weed free, you
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can grow a nice tree. Okay. So,scientists nowadays are also
having lots of, you know,research being published and all
this research are establishingthe fact that there is a, there
is a connection between the gutand the brain, okay, and autism,
kids have this gut brain access,not working properly. So coming
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to that point, how can a gut getthis balanced? A God gets this
balanced when you were eatingsomething that you cannot
digest? So this kids, they havea weaker digestive system, they
have less acids, they have alsoless enzymes to be able to break
down the food properly. So whenyou can give them the support,
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they will definitely be able todigest the food and assimilate
the food. Okay? So when you arefeeding the child when you're
feeding him with grains, grainsare the hardest to digest, okay?
Why are the hardest to digest?
Because if you go back tohistory, we were not mechanized,
we our body system is not havingthat mechanism to digest grains
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properly, grains came into thehuman evolution only 100 or 150
years ago, before that, therewasn't that that variety of
grains. The natural food that weused to eat was mostly the, you
know, paleo diet was mostlyvegetables and fruits, as well
as a little bit of rootvegetables, and mostly fresh
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fruits and vegetables, as wellas fish and chicken or poultry,
chicken and all those things. Sowhat happened with all this
booming industrial revolutionand human beings growing, you
know, 15 billion, and whateverthe count is right now. So to be
able to feed all those humanbeings in such a small art, what
we have to do is have our ownagricultural revolution that
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will help feed all these people.
So green was actually developedfrom grass by using genetic
modification. Okay, even thoughit's not understandable, how can
you do genetic modification, butwe did cross breeding, cross
breeding has been in the worldfor centuries. So the grains are
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not very easily digested in thebody. So when you eat and
digestible food, what it happensis it goes to the large
intestine, and then it starts torock. So when it's rotting,
obviously, it's creating morebad bacteria. So the bad
bacterias will suppress the goodbacterias. And research already
proved. And we all know thatgood bacterias are very
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important for digestion, forimmunity and other purposes,
okay. So if that if you arethinking this way that okay, if
I don't give them the grain, Iwill remove all the grains and
then see what happens. Soslowly, slowly, what will happen
is when you stop the grain, yourbody gets the time to heal, to
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be able to digest food, that isthat it knows how to digest,
okay, as well as what I do isgive the child additional
support to clean out the systemof previous stored on digested
food as well as stored, stolen,stored bad bacterias and
whatnot. So what I do eventuallyis clean out the system, give it
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some time to heal, and then fillthe system with all the good
foods that is easy to digest andvery much nutrient dense. So
what you will have now is aclean system that will be able
to absorb the food. A lot of theparents don't see that much
result because they are justchanging the diet. They're not
essentially focusing on cleaningthe system or healing the
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system, which is why I createdthis five pillars protocol.
Okay, so the first pillar isactually the model
Instead of the mom or theparents, because that's a very
important thing, knowing whatyou should do and how to do it,
and to keep pushing yourselfwhen the going gets hard. So
that's the first. The first one.
The second one I do isdetoxification, it's like first,
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opening the tap, letting all thebad stuff go out. That's
detoxification. And the thirdone that I do is healing. Once
all the bad things are gone, youneed to kind of clean and then
repair the lines and everything.
Okay, let the pipes repairing.
So the third one is repairing.
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The fourth one is once you havethe repaired gut, you give him
all the good foods, thenourishing part gave him the
detoxification, tonics and allthose things that I usually
prescribed. And the fifth one ismaintaining that diet,
maintaining the lifestyle thatwill help, right? Well, you've
definitely given us so muchgreat knowledge and information.
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And I love your whole analogy ofhaving to kind of uproot the
lifestyle and you know,especially the diet and re lay
down foundation to build on topof it. And I think when I think
about changing my son's diet ortrying different things I didn't
even think about, Okay, I needto almost reset him so that all
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of the good things that comewith changing the diet and being
able to see some of thoseresults, I think that's such a
valuable thing for parents tohear, just trying on your own,
usually not gives a very, verylike impactful result if your
child has a lot of problems inhis system or her system. So
what I help in that way is justbuilding customized diet and
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lifestyle guidelines for thechild and make the transitions
of from not eating anything toeating good. I have worked with
some of the world's toughestpicky eaters, I would say. So
Alhamdulillah, I was able towork with them. And yeah, they
are now a lot stable, they'reeating properly, they're
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slipping and, you know, doingall those things. So which gives
me a lot more courage to keepforward. Although you can you
are told and we know it's notone size fits all. That's why
now you need to first understandwhat is the size of your child,
you know, one size fits all. Sowhat is the size of your child,
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depending on the size of yourchild you give him or her the
best support that he or sheneeds. And it always works out.
This is not bragging, it's justsaying a natural thing because
when you eat healthy, you stayhealthy. Try to stay in the
natural food zone, try to stayaway from packaged food, stop
doing processed food likesausage and all those things. As
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try to eat as natural aspossible try to make home cooked
meal even if you're very, verybusy mom, I was I still am. So
what I do is I do meal prep,which makes life easier. And I
do help my audience as well asmy clients give them lots of
recipes very easy to do like 510minutes recipes to follow, which
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you know, picky eaters approvedjust trying to understand from
where to start. And to not giveup when things get tough as well
as to follow our protocol, whichis customized for your child is
a very nice way of finding thatbalance because a lot of the
parents wants to try and theyfail. So what they does is they
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automatically accept that thisis part of their life and they
just give up I feel like ahunger inside me to reach to
those parents and then give themhope that you can absolutely
help your child Where can theyreach out to you and you know if
people are interested in workingwith you, I have my facebook
group that's a private Facebookgroup where I share lots of
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resources like free resourcesand posts and even videos trying
to help as much as possiblebecause I know not everybody can
afford or not everybody are mayor might not be not ready now to
do all this resets and all theshapes so I create tons of
resources via my blog as well.
My blog is at www dotneurodiverse nerd.com and my
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facebook group is autism dietsupport as well as I have
Instagram handle which is theunderscore neurodiverse
underscore nart so you can findme wherever you are comfortable.
I the only thing I don't haveright now is I guess, YouTube
channel. You can also find me onLinkedIn as Dr. Casanova Yeah.
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And I'll have all of your linksin the podcast notes as well so
people can find it there too. Aswe close up this Do you have one
last word of wisdom for parents.
If you start now stinkingLike, oh my god, it's not just
diet change, I have to do atotal reset that will make you
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very scared sister that willmake you very, very scared. What
you have to do is, you know how,how do you eat an elephant? bite
by bite? How do you cross onemile journey one step at a time.
If you bog down yourselfthinking I have to do so many
things, you will feel like thepool of not doing anything or
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you will feel procrastinationgoing on. So the first thing you
have to do is work on yourmindset. accept the fact that
you can help your child to thebest of your ability and to make
him or her the best that theycan. And then slowly and
steadily go to the do all theshifts, you can read lots of
books there are you know, grainfree diets, even gaps diet is
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another one, what I did wassimplifying gaps, because gaps I
found was a little hard tofollow. Which is why a lot of
the parents give up on dietsbecause they find it hard to
continue. What you have tounderstand is, where you are,
how much you can do. What's thebest effort you can give?
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Because you know what, if youwant to do something, you will
find a way. If not, you willfind an excuse. Let's not create
excuses for ourselves, let'sjust have the most inspiring
life that we can have withourselves as well as our
children. I absolutely love allof that test. Niva Yes, I love
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all of that. And I think theother thing is that whoever is
listening right now that theyare not alone, we are all going
through different challenges.
And we are all here to supporteach other. And I think that's
really important for everyone toknow. And of course the mindset
shifts and the choices that wehave that are we are empowered
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to make those choices. So I justwant to thank you so much, Dr.
tesni for joining me today anddropping so much value to our
listeners. You are absolutelyamazing doing amazing work.
Thank you so much for callingand letting my voice out. I
would absolutely love to help inany capacity that I can. Because
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I cannot sleep at night thinkingthere are so many children I
haven't reached yet. I need toreach more I need to help more.
So yeah, drop me a line. Well,as you can see, sometimes we run
into some technical challengesbut Dr. Toss nouveau was saying
to dm her messaged her reach outif you are looking for some help
in this area. I hope that thisepisode was helpful. I hope it
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gave you some perspective andsomething to consider. And as
you know, my mission is to helpas many people as I can and I
cannot do that without you. Andone last thing is I want you to
know that you are not alone.
Thank you so much for listening.
Thank you so much for yoursupport and sharing this podcast
to help others and until nexttime. I appreciate I empathize
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and I am here for you and I cando this
Hey everyone, and welcome to the rise with the
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Hi, everyone. And thank you somuch for joining me today. And
thank you so much for all yourfollows your messages and
support. You have no idea whatall of that means to me, and I
appreciate it so much. And ifyou haven't yet subscribed or
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another episode. Now I'm soexcited to tell you that I have
a great guest with me today. Hername is Dr. Tess nuvem. She's a
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pharmacist with a PhD in naturalmedicine. She's been an
assistant professor of pharmacyat her alma mater in Bangladesh.
And she is also a publishedresearch scientist on stress and
natural medicinal approaches.
She's also a mom of three andone of her kids is on the autism
spectrum. Her experience andhelping her autism child thrive
verbalize and supercharge hasgiven her knowledge and desire
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to help others. Now she'sworking as an autism health
coach helping autism kids withlanguage speech and
communication and other physicaland cognitive development delays
to get success. Now how does shedo this, she created a five
pillar to supercharging andsupporting autism kids that is
transcribed in her signatureprogram the autism diet. Now you
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can sign up for her newsletterand join her tribe in the links
that I'm providing within thedescription of this podcast and
listen to her story. She talksthrough her experience and
changing her son's diet andtaking control and figuring out
what the resources are to helpher son now many of us are
always waiting for others totell us what to do or to tell us
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how to help and oftentimes thatwheat takes a long time. I don't
know if you've had experiencewith this. If you are shaking
your head right now may have hadexperience waiting on a waitlist
to get services, waiting monthsfor a diagnosis talking to your
pediatrician and maybe notgetting the any answers or any
support even from an emotionalperspective. So Dr. Toss, nueva
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has developed a way in whichthat has helped her child and
she wants to share thatinformation and to help other
people. Now here's my interviewwith Dr. Toss Nova. Hi,
everyone. And thank you forjoining us today. I'm so excited
to have Dr. Tess nouveau with usto share her story and all of
the wisdom she brings to theautism community. So Tess nuba
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is also a coach. She focuses onearly autism recovery for
children, and personaldevelopment for parents. So toss
Neva, thank you so much forjoining me, it's so awesome that
we can connect this way youbeing in Canada and me being in
California. So this is so greatthat we can connect and we found
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each other. So thank you so muchfor joining me today. Thank you
so much for in the first place,you know, calling me to be a
part of your show. I really amloving what you're doing because
very few people actually talkabout mindset and the way that
that's the best way of you know,handling situation and life in
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general. Thank you so much. Andwelcome, everyone. I'm so happy
to hear that. Thank you so much.
And I wanted to go ahead andreally jump into get to know you
and for the listeners to alsoget to know you. And so maybe
you can tell us a little bitabout your family. And I know
that you are a single mom justlike me, and also just about
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your son's diagnosis. So I'dlove to have the listeners learn
more about you. So let's startat the beginning. I was kind of
forced to marry when I was 21.
pretty young, because it's likea cultural thing. So the guy
that I married, I got my firstson from him. He was having
affairs, okay. And at one point,he just left us and ran away.
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And I was you know, like,first I actually came to know
about him when I was like noabout him having affairs when I
was 40 days pregnant. Okay, soit was one of the hardest blow
that I had and trying to get himback and whatnot. But even after
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my son was born, things didn'twork out. And so I just left him
and I started saying stayingwith my parents and after that,
I left mytwo year old son and went to
Malaysia for my PhD. And I havebeen over there for like five
years, my son was on and offwith me and sometimes with my
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parents, because you know, PhDis like a very, very tough part
of the job or study part. So itwas very hard for me to care for
both him and study as well asArne. So I would leave him with
my parents in Bangladesh, andstay in Malaysia for like, a
chunk of time. And then I got myPhD, after which my parents
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thought enough, like, you havebeen alone for six years, and
you are just 28 year old, wedon't want you to stay all
alone. They talked me intomarrying again, for the six
years of time I was, I wasalone. And I do understand the
single mom traumas and whatnot,because you know, when you are
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single, guys, other people tendto think that it's easy to get
us or easy to have us I don'tknow, like, I was more flustered
by guys in general. And, youknow, people will kind of look
down on me, and they won't eveninvite me, there will be couples
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and families inviting eachother. And then I will always be
the one not invited. So allthose things, it hurt my parents
more than it hurt me, I guess.
So theymade me marry again. So what Not
so with my second marriage, Ihad my son after my PhD. So it
was a very stressful time forme. And when I had him
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initially, he didn't show anyany problem, you know, he was
totally fine. But after aboutsix or seven months, my parents
my mom's specially she noticedthat he wouldn't look into her
eyes or in our eyes. And youknow, my mom kept saying like,
see, he your son is not supposedto be like this. He's supposed
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to when you call him he'ssupposed to look at you. And
he's supposed to interact, he'ssupposed to introduce himself,
or you know, like, say hi, andlook at people and whatnot,
right? Like to have the socialnorms. Yeah, social interaction
cues. Yeah, social norms. So Ididn't put that much effort on
him on the part because how doesit I have ADHD, I still do I
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have ADHD, so I'm aneurodiverse. person, and I
loved to always stay alone, youknow, in a, like, stay in a
corner, read books, or don'tplay with people don't mingle
with people so much. So when Isaw him not interacting with
others, I just thought of himas, like a kid having, you know,
add, probably he will be havinga leaf since his mother has
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ADHD, and he's not showinginterest to mingle with others
or look towards others, I justthought, you know, he just have
some issues which he will growout of it. But after about two
years, still, things didn'timprove. He just could say only
Ma, and no other word. Andafter, after some time, he also
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stopped using that word, youknow, you wouldn't use any word,
he will babble. And thenhe had other like communication
and language problems. So whenwe took him to a pediatrician,
he sort of like diagnosed himand then referred us to another
autism diagnosis. So we got himdiagnosed, but over there in our
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country that happened in ourcountry, and this, they said,
like, you know,he doesn't have that much of a
problem. He just have delays.
Because he's very young child.
He's just two years. So let'swait for one more year and see
how things goes. And right afterthat time, we got our visa for
Canada, you know, as a PR, so weshifted here. And before we came
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here, I got pregnant with mythird. That was
in 2019. So after we came inCanada, I was pregnant seven
months and I was totally alone.
Totally, like at all It alwayshad to stain in the home and
then my husband would beoutside. So
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things got a little bad with myson. Okay, and after my daughter
was born, he started showinglots of aggression, lots of
irritation, he started banginghis head, he would jump from,
you know, high places and thenfall down headfirst, like, like,
he's actually trying to hurthimself like that. Okay. And one
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time he also tried to kinda ranaway and you know, so I got
really scared because he was notjust hurting himself. He was
also trying to hurt my, myyounger one. And he actually
threw my daughter from theBet a few times, okay, so you do
understand that very, verystressful time. So I went to
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another pediatrician here andthen we were put for the
diagnosis and fought for, youknow, how these things goes
usually in the Western world,the autism diagnosis as well as
going through the process takesa lot of time. Okay, so we have
been waiting for about seven oreight months and things,
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nobody's calling us and hiscondition started more
regressing. And, you know, oneday I was like, I had enough,
because he was really hard tohandle. Okay, I was going
through a very bad phase ofdepression. And I was under
psych therapy, and I was alsolabeled as an emergency, you
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know, I had to my husband had acamera put, you know, the motion
detecting camera in my home, sothat he could detect if I was
trying to either kill myself ordo something weird. So yeah, and
at one point, I was like, Thisis not what I was born. This is
not what my child was born to gothrough. Or, you know, we came
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to Canada to have a better life.
But things started going so bad.
I just, I just left, you know,felt so out of touch with
myself. And there was nothing Icould do, just waiting. And I'm
not a person to wait. I believemyself to be resourceful. So
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what I did is I started my ownresearch, okay. And being a
pharmacist with a PhD in naturalmedicine, I have ideas on and
study actually education onhuman anatomy, physiology,
pharmacology, and all thosethings as well as natural
medicine. So I thought, ratherthan wait for the traditional
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way of, you know, getting my sondiagnosed and go through
therapies and whatnot, let's trysomething else. So I found
myself, Doctor Who does a littlebit of Ayurvedic, like a
diabetic practitioner. So hetold me to change his diet and
see how that goes. And in thecourse of changing his diet, and
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putting him into, you know,experimenting, what works with
him, what doesn't, what helps, Ilearned a lot, okay, and we
started with a child who wouldnot chew, my son couldn't chew
at all, okay, he would just Gulphis food, he couldn't sleep, we
had to put him like, like threeor four hours of struggle
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between him awake and you know,asleep at night, he will stay
awake. If you don't put him tobed, he can stay awake until
2022 22 hours. I tried thatalso, okay. So with the newborn,
with my staff with him,from there, to now, you know,
he's talking, he's eating andsleeping properly, his weight,
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and everything is on par. Wealso got a little speech therapy
session with him. The speechtherapists say that, because we
were referred to her a long timeago, and we were told, you know,
she was referred in a way thatmy son cannot speak at all, no
words. So when we did the teston him, over the videos, you
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know, zoom calls. So the speechpathologist was really austrack.
She was like, I came to themeeting, knowing that your son
doesn't have any word. But now Isee he's talking to you in
sentence, how did you do it? SoI was like, you know, I did try
to discuss a little bit abouthow I did the journey with the
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changing of thing of his dietand his lifestyle, as well as
how we parent him, how we seehim, we try to understand him,
all those things that goes withit? Well, I think a lot of
listeners can really resonatewith a lot of things that you
said, I mean, the sleepchallenges, the verbal
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challenges, and the impact thatthat was having on you and your
own psyche and the depressionthat you were going through, I
mean, the fact that your husbandneeded to put, you know, a video
camera to make sure that youwere okay. You know, I think a
lot of people can resonate withthat. Because, as parents, a lot
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of times we feel helpless and wedon't know what to do and we
don't know how to manage our ownemotions and how to deal with
what is going on. And, you know,it's not something that we're
trained in. You know, we don'tget a manual of being parents,
let alone having a child withautism, the amount of stress and
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pressureThat was on you is something
that a lot of us go through aswell. And what I love about your
story is the resourcefulnessthat you had, you know, you were
waiting. And this is a waitinggame, a lot of people have to
wait for a diagnosis they haveto wait for, you know, they're
on a waitlist to receiveservices, they have to wait for
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people. I mean, it's, theprocess is already just so
lengthy, but you were just, youknow, I'm going to take things
into my own hands, and youstarted researching and figuring
out other alternatives. And withyour background as well, you
know, we're able to find thesolution with a diet and to see
the shift that your son washaving from having these
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behaviors and having thesechallenges to now after making
these lifestyle changes, seeingthat that had such a positive
impact. And it's no wonder whyyou're trying to help other
people, something that you and Italked about before was by
helping other parents by helpingother people, we also heal
ourselves because we are alsogoing through all of these
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things at the same time. So andyou turned your weakness of
having depression and having allof these negative emotions into
being so strong and such a hugeadvocate and delivering results
that other people were not ableto do that for you and your son.
So I just I'm just so enamoredby you, and so inspired by you.
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And like I said, I think a lotof people can really relate to
you. And I know you're sohumble, as well. So you know,
you have to give yourself a lotof credit. What were some of
those changes that you made interms of his diet? I know that's
a big part of what you focus onwith helping other parents, but
maybe, you know, and we all knowthat not everything works for
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everyone else, right? Everychild is different. But what do
you think were the main thingsthat you changed in your son's
diet that really helped to makea lot of these you know,
movements forward. First of all,we started where everyone else
starts with a gluten free dairyfree diet. And I have to say
also working with my son andworking with others, what they
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see is firstly, when your bodyis healthy, when your body your
the digestive system can reallyfunction properly, whatever you
eat, the nutrients willdefinitely be absorbed and go
into your brain for the brainfunction as well as go into the
other body parts for the bodyfunctions, right. So what I
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started thinking is there is asaying like you are what you
eat, and with my knowledge offood and with my knowledge of
natural medicine, it reallyresonated with me that diet
should be a part of it. And alot of the time why parents
don't see results with a certaintype of diet. There are reasons
which I found out later on. AndI would like to share here
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otherwise, just giving a sort oflike a part may not be helpful
for others I'm really trying tohelp others here. So what I
started with him is going fromgluten free, dairy free and then
trying to see what works andthen I saw a little bit of the
shift last the doctor actuallygave me some aerobatic tonics to
help improve his digestion aswell as to help if evacuation
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system you know, the pooping inorder because a lot of the kids
have constipation problem evenwith good food because when he
was born, I actually promisedmyself and my husband that my
son will not have outside foodeven before we know he has all
these things that my son willnot have outside food, you know,
chips, Cola, all those things,because healthy eating is a very
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much important part of me of whoI am. Because I have always been
a health nerd. And I've alwaysbeen on this health
consciousness. So definitely, ithits me a lot harder, because I
was doing everything properly. Iwas giving him all good food,
and then why Will my son haveproblem, you know, developmental
delay, because he you know, hedidn't have any sort of trauma
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or any problems. So why suddenlyhe is not being the person that
he should be. So working withthat doctor, I actually worked
with him like two sessions,actually, he gave me the norms
of going through the diet, likea little bit of what I should or
should not feed him. And then hejust gave me the idea of that
arithmetic, you know, tonic tohelp your digestion system. And
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I took that thing into the nextlevel, why the diet part doesn't
work, because it's not a simpleapproach. It's not one size fits
all. It is dependent on thecondition of the child of the
condition of his digestivesystem and whatever goes inside
and the way that I worked withmy son was tweaking not just the
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diet part but alsosupplementation also how he eats
food when he eats food, whatkind of combination of food to
give him to help heal his body.
You know, all those things. Soit's not like very
straightforward but so far thesimplest way of saying that is
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The gluten free diet didn't helpthat much. When we shifted to
the grain free diet, we saw thelargest amount of impact
throughout that period. And he'sstill doing free, he would have
it very occasionally, like maybeif it's his birthday, or if it's
our anniversary, you know,special occasion, very
occasionally he will have greenbased things. But otherwise, he
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just have natural fruits andvegetables and organic meats as
much as possible, because youknow, organic stuff are very
expensive. So I tried to learnmore about it and try to
implement more because major ata portion of people in the world
are not in a very nice financialstate. Right, right. So for me,
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also, it was very hard becausewe were one income family, why I
think I can help and I do helpothers. Because I was able to
achieve all those things with aone income family, I was able to
give all the stuff that heneeded without being over
conscious without over stressingon organic food on special diets
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and whatnot. So that's why Ithink I can, I am able to help
others because I have thoseexperience on focusing on what
really works, which steps reallyworks, I don't like taking a
long time to point B from pointA. So what I found out with him
and working with my otherclients is I now have pretty
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structured protocol that iffollowed properly, usually gives
results within two months, itsounds like you are going
through some trial and error,right, you're looking at a lot
of variables, not only the foodand the type of diets a gluten
free, the grain free, but alsowhat time, you know, he was
eating, you know, differentpatterns that you were
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evaluating to see what wasactually delivering the results.
So I think a big message toparents is, as much as we want
to find a solution as much as wewant to find something that
works for our child, it may bethat trial and error, we have to
test and learn identify thingsthat you know, maybe it doesn't
work, but don't give up, youknow, don't give up and trying
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to find the solutions that workfor your child. And I think
that's something that is areally profound thing that
you're saying because you weretrying things and you didn't
give up, you know, you didn'tgive up when things weren't
necessarily showing results. SoI really like that part of your
journey. I would like to addhere, you know, a lot of parents
actually start to try. But thenthe problem is, first of all,
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your pediatrician doesn't sayanything about nutrition, right?
They never say anything aboutfood, they don't talk about it.
And even when you asked if thereany food or is there any diet I
should follow, they would sayjust keep them alive. You know,
even my doctor though, the onethat we showed my my Sania, here
in Canada, she was a very, very,very renowned person. She even
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said like, when I asked herShould I give him any special
diet or you know, supplements oryou know, anything that can
help, you know, just keep himalive, because these kids don't
eat properly, you know, justkeep him alive. So I was like,
Whatthe hell are you talking lady?
Just keep my child alive. Right?
It's kind of like, Okay, I willdefinitely, definitely keep them
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alive. But that's not whatyou're asking for.
Exactly. That's not what I'masking for. Because Yeah, these
kids are picky eaters. Amajority of these kids are picky
eaters. And the parents, whatthey do is, first of all, they
don't get the emotional andsupport, you know, medical
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support from the doctor sayingthat, yes, you can try a diet,
you can try going gluten free,or dairy free or both, or even
green fee, you know, try yourway which one works, then don't
talk about it. That's oneproblem. And then the other
problem is everyone is notscientist, everyone is not
having background on pharmacy,or health science or you know,
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stuff like that, that will havea solid foundation of what our
body is all about and how itworks and functions. So a lot of
parents get scared also to try.
You know, like, what if I triedthis and then something happens,
right? Because when you don'tknow certain aspects you are
more scared to try. So what theparent does is like they just
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want to be in the safe side. Andthen they just keep trying to
feed the child whatever he wantsto eat because and then you
know, as early as you start isthe best time because as you
grow older, as the kid getsolder, it's hard to change the
diet and all those other shiftsthat needs to be done. Okay. I
have worked with a two year oldkid I have worked with four year
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old kid with a seven year oldand also within 617 year old
Okay, so what I found was theearliest I got a child
to work on, I could get thefaster result. Why? Because
those kids are having less ofthe body issues. Because the
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older a tree is, the harder itsroots are right? The deeper the
roots, yes, it's hard to pullthem out. Right? So it's harder
to pull them out, right. Sothat's why I like to try I try
to create awareness on this andtalk to parents about trying as
soon as possible. And also, whatI teach them is just changing
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diet will not give you the bestresult, or the fastest result
for the fastest result, you needto understand what goes on
inside his body and why he islike this. I'm not saying or I'm
not trying to imply because achild eats grain, he's having
autism, it's not like that.
Okay, what what I'm trying tosay is Autism is a developmental
delay kind of thing, okay, yourkids brain is not functioning
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properly. And as we helpprofessionals know that for any
body body organs, for any of theorgans to work properly, it
needs to be fed properly, itneeds to have good environment,
okay? I use this analogy a lot.
Like you know, your if your soilis fertile and weed free, you
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can grow a nice tree. Okay. So,scientists nowadays are also
having lots of, you know,research being published and all
this research are establishingthe fact that there is a, there
is a connection between the gutand the brain, okay, and autism,
kids have this gut brain access,not working properly. So coming
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to that point, how can a gut getthis balanced? A God gets this
balanced when you were eatingsomething that you cannot
digest? So this kids, they havea weaker digestive system, they
have less acids, they have alsoless enzymes to be able to break
down the food properly. So whenyou can give them the support,
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they will definitely be able todigest the food and assimilate
the food. Okay? So when you arefeeding the child when you're
feeding him with grains, grainsare the hardest to digest, okay?
Why are the hardest to digest?
Because if you go back tohistory, we were not mechanized,
we our body system is not havingthat mechanism to digest grains
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properly, grains came into thehuman evolution only 100 or 150
years ago, before that, therewasn't that that variety of
grains. The natural food that weused to eat was mostly the, you
know, paleo diet was mostlyvegetables and fruits, as well
as a little bit of rootvegetables, and mostly fresh
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fruits and vegetables, as wellas fish and chicken or poultry,
chicken and all those things. Sowhat happened with all this
booming industrial revolutionand human beings growing, you
know, 15 billion, and whateverthe count is right now. So to be
able to feed all those humanbeings in such a small art, what
we have to do is have our ownagricultural revolution that
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will help feed all these people.
So green was actually developedfrom grass by using genetic
modification. Okay, even thoughit's not understandable, how can
you do genetic modification, butwe did cross breeding, cross
breeding has been in the worldfor centuries. So the grains are
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not very easily digested in thebody. So when you eat and
digestible food, what it happensis it goes to the large
intestine, and then it starts torock. So when it's rotting,
obviously, it's creating morebad bacteria. So the bad
bacterias will suppress the goodbacterias. And research already
proved. And we all know thatgood bacterias are very
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important for digestion, forimmunity and other purposes,
okay. So if that if you arethinking this way that okay, if
I don't give them the grain, Iwill remove all the grains and
then see what happens. Soslowly, slowly, what will happen
is when you stop the grain, yourbody gets the time to heal, to
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be able to digest food, that isthat it knows how to digest,
okay, as well as what I do isgive the child additional
support to clean out the systemof previous stored on digested
food as well as stored, stolen,stored bad bacterias and
whatnot. So what I do eventuallyis clean out the system, give it
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some time to heal, and then fillthe system with all the good
foods that is easy to digest andvery much nutrient dense. So
what you will have now is aclean system that will be able
to absorb the food. A lot of theparents don't see that much
result because they are justchanging the diet. They're not
essentially focusing on cleaningthe system or healing the
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system, which is why I createdthis five pillars protocol.
Okay, so the first pillar isactually the model
Instead of the mom or theparents, because that's a very
important thing, knowing whatyou should do and how to do it,
and to keep pushing yourselfwhen the going gets hard. So
that's the first. The first one.
The second one I do isdetoxification, it's like first,
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opening the tap, letting all thebad stuff go out. That's
detoxification. And the thirdone that I do is healing. Once
all the bad things are gone, youneed to kind of clean and then
repair the lines and everything.
Okay, let the pipes repairing.
So the third one is repairing.
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The fourth one is once you havethe repaired gut, you give him
all the good foods, thenourishing part gave him the
detoxification, tonics and allthose things that I usually
prescribed. And the fifth one ismaintaining that diet,
maintaining the lifestyle thatwill help, right? Well, you've
definitely given us so muchgreat knowledge and information.
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And I love your whole analogy ofhaving to kind of uproot the
lifestyle and you know,especially the diet and re lay
down foundation to build on topof it. And I think when I think
about changing my son's diet ortrying different things I didn't
even think about, Okay, I needto almost reset him so that all
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of the good things that comewith changing the diet and being
able to see some of thoseresults, I think that's such a
valuable thing for parents tohear, just trying on your own,
usually not gives a very, verylike impactful result if your
child has a lot of problems inhis system or her system. So
what I help in that way is justbuilding customized diet and
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lifestyle guidelines for thechild and make the transitions
of from not eating anything toeating good. I have worked with
some of the world's toughestpicky eaters, I would say. So
Alhamdulillah, I was able towork with them. And yeah, they
are now a lot stable, they'reeating properly, they're
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slipping and, you know, doingall those things. So which gives
me a lot more courage to keepforward. Although you can you
are told and we know it's notone size fits all. That's why
now you need to first understandwhat is the size of your child,
you know, one size fits all. Sowhat is the size of your child,
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depending on the size of yourchild you give him or her the
best support that he or sheneeds. And it always works out.
This is not bragging, it's justsaying a natural thing because
when you eat healthy, you stayhealthy. Try to stay in the
natural food zone, try to stayaway from packaged food, stop
doing processed food likesausage and all those things. As
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try to eat as natural aspossible try to make home cooked
meal even if you're very, verybusy mom, I was I still am. So
what I do is I do meal prep,which makes life easier. And I
do help my audience as well asmy clients give them lots of
recipes very easy to do like 510minutes recipes to follow, which
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you know, picky eaters approvedjust trying to understand from
where to start. And to not giveup when things get tough as well
as to follow our protocol, whichis customized for your child is
a very nice way of finding thatbalance because a lot of the
parents wants to try and theyfail. So what they does is they
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automatically accept that thisis part of their life and they
just give up I feel like ahunger inside me to reach to
those parents and then give themhope that you can absolutely
help your child Where can theyreach out to you and you know if
people are interested in workingwith you, I have my facebook
group that's a private Facebookgroup where I share lots of
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resources like free resourcesand posts and even videos trying
to help as much as possiblebecause I know not everybody can
afford or not everybody are mayor might not be not ready now to
do all this resets and all theshapes so I create tons of
resources via my blog as well.
My blog is at www dotneurodiverse nerd.com and my
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facebook group is autism dietsupport as well as I have
Instagram handle which is theunderscore neurodiverse
underscore nart so you can findme wherever you are comfortable.
I the only thing I don't haveright now is I guess, YouTube
channel. You can also find me onLinkedIn as Dr. Casanova Yeah.
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And I'll have all of your linksin the podcast notes as well so
people can find it there too. Aswe close up this Do you have one
last word of wisdom for parents.
If you start now stinkingLike, oh my god, it's not just
diet change, I have to do atotal reset that will make you
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very scared sister that willmake you very, very scared. What
you have to do is, you know how,how do you eat an elephant? bite
by bite? How do you cross onemile journey one step at a time.
If you bog down yourselfthinking I have to do so many
things, you will feel like thepool of not doing anything or
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you will feel procrastinationgoing on. So the first thing you
have to do is work on yourmindset. accept the fact that
you can help your child to thebest of your ability and to make
him or her the best that theycan. And then slowly and
steadily go to the do all theshifts, you can read lots of
books there are you know, grainfree diets, even gaps diet is
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another one, what I did wassimplifying gaps, because gaps I
found was a little hard tofollow. Which is why a lot of
the parents give up on dietsbecause they find it hard to
continue. What you have tounderstand is, where you are,
how much you can do. What's thebest effort you can give?
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Because you know what, if youwant to do something, you will
find a way. If not, you willfind an excuse. Let's not create
excuses for ourselves, let'sjust have the most inspiring
life that we can have withourselves as well as our
children. I absolutely love allof that test. Niva Yes, I love
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all of that. And I think theother thing is that whoever is
listening right now that theyare not alone, we are all going
through different challenges.
And we are all here to supporteach other. And I think that's
really important for everyone toknow. And of course the mindset
shifts and the choices that wehave that are we are empowered
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to make those choices. So I justwant to thank you so much, Dr.
tesni for joining me today anddropping so much value to our
listeners. You are absolutelyamazing doing amazing work.
Thank you so much for callingand letting my voice out. I
would absolutely love to help inany capacity that I can. Because
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I cannot sleep at night thinkingthere are so many children I
haven't reached yet. I need toreach more I need to help more.
So yeah, drop me a line. Well,as you can see, sometimes we run
into some technical challengesbut Dr. Toss nouveau was saying
to dm her messaged her reach outif you are looking for some help
in this area. I hope that thisepisode was helpful. I hope it
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gave you some perspective andsomething to consider. And as
you know, my mission is to helpas many people as I can and I
cannot do that without you. Andone last thing is I want you to
know that you are not alone.
Thank you so much for listening.
Thank you so much for yoursupport and sharing this podcast
to help others and until nexttime. I appreciate I empathize
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and I am here for you and I cando this
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