RMTS 153: GTA 6 Wont Live Up To The HYPE!!!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Boys, we are back. This is RMTS one fifty three.
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
We saw sponsors after last week's episode. Okay, like let's go,
but uh yeah, like Zach was late, but then that
caused me to be late because I made a pumpkin
macaroni sauce I'm scratch bechamel and everything, and then Zach,
just like, yo, where are you at? I'm like, oh,
I thought it was canceled because he was late, But now.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
My phone shut off. I had to wait for my
card to come in, so my phone's all acting retarded.
I'm an hour away from home. I was like, time wise,
I'm good, I'm good. Oh fuck, I stayed too long
in the store, and I'm like shit, I still have
to grab dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
That was my first bite. I can do better. I
think there's a little too much red pepper flakes in here,
and it needs.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
More pep That's a lie. That's a lie. There's no
such thing as It's.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Supposed to be a pumpkin sauce, not a pepper sauce.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I don't. I don't like pumpkins.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
So does.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Have that power, Zach.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Pumpkin pie is fine, but I'm not putting it in
a pasta.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh, you're triggering me because I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Like those pumpkin pie though topped here it's the number
one pie.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I can't Yeah, of course, yeah. I don't like those
people that are like, oh, I only like pumpkin pie,
but I don't like pumpkin anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Get a squash or somethingper cookies.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, anything, dessert. Pumpkin people are usually four, but you
gotta go for savory pumpkin. Go to Panera bread, get
like the squash or autumn soup, and it's good, good
pumpkin adjacent, and then you can just do whatever with pumpkin.
Pumpkin is is is universally good.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Each the round or like that's your reaction.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I don't like.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I mean, you're saying squash and stuff that's not even pumpkin.
I mean pumpkin, pumpkin pie killing, I think is only
a small percentage of actual pumpkin. It's like squash and stuff, So.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, that's pumpkin. You look at this one hundred percent
organic pumpkin pire, I mean, if you get that.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
But yeah, usually the stuff that uh that I growing up,
I would I would look at the can and be like,
what's only like thirty percent pumpkin or something.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
But it's always weird when you get those things where
it's like, oh, it's not even what you thought it was.
It's like, what the fuck is this? Pick up your
jar of parmesan cheese and it says thirty percent ell
you loose, like, what the fuck is That's.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Kind of obvious, like you know you're eating wood.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, but like when you're six seven years old, you're like, Oh,
this is cheese, isn't it. You turn around, look at
all the fucking label. What the fuck is that?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oh? When I'm six, I'm not going, Wow, shelf Stable cheese.
How did they do that? I'm like, that's got to
be fake, dude.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I it must be because I'm fucking old. But anytime
I sat on the toilet, I would look at the
ingredients on the shampoo, because what the fuck else do
you have to do when you have to shit? There's
nothing to fucking do. My game boys, Dad, it's in
the fucking bedroom. You got fucking shampoo labels that lasted
until I was at least fourteen fifteen.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
You want reading the game informer rip now stut down.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I didn't have heard about that.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, I don't know how game Stuff's going to sell
memberships anymore. That was like the main reason you get it.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Uh, there's they also have this cup on when you
have the yearly membership that you would get like five
to ten dollars off per month and you could stack them.
The nose are pretty nice. But that's like the only
reason why are you paying dollars to get a five
dollars cupon?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Okay, so am I the weird one here? Because when
I go to the bathroom, I don't bring my game boy.
I don't like even when I was a kid, I
don't read ship I don't have my phone. Now I
just raw dog it like there for the deed.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I don't think you're just thinking like, yeah, exactly, I'm
on the throne on the think tank exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
That's where that's where a Pokemon hating videos come. This
person's a cheater. Here's the script. Have it all played
out in your head straight from the shutter.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
No, my content's higher quality than that.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
I know it is. But that was too funny. You're like,
oh this this Pokemon will work. Okay, think tank right
in the right in the ship tank, I mean.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
On the toilet. Yeah, that's that's what I'm doing. I'm
like seeing what the other TikTokers are doing and stuff.
But that's probably so insanitary, you know, like you're you're
in the bathroom on your phone and you put that
on your face.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
That's MythBusters as well, because they were just like testing
and there's there's pooh everywhere that we're just like, oh yeah,
those little poop particles they float around the entire house.
God forbid. If you have something with you on your toothbrush.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Phone goes in the pocket before I stand up.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
That doesn't change anything.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Now it's in your pocket. In your pocket.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
You turn on the fan, that's negative air pressure. It's
just it's just zooming up through there. Who turns on
the fan, that's step zero.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
No, you turn on the fin after you leave.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
You do it during to cover the noise and to
reduce the smell.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
No, you turn your volume on your video all the
way up. Nobody fucking hears you anyway. What are you doing? Like, honestly,
that makes no sense. Why would you turn on the
fan while you're in there. It's gonna suck all the
ship up. You're gonna get ship splats all over your face.
That's not that's not fun.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
I mean, if I'm gonna be in there in a while,
like for a while, I'll turn the fan on. But
normally the only time I turned the fan on is
when I'm like showering or something, so the mirror doesn't.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
No courtesy to the other people when you're shitting courtesy
what courtesy is there?

Speaker 1 (06:12):
They know that I'm going in the bathroom to ship.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
I mean I try not to be in there too
long either, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
They would get the fuck out of there.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Y'all are freaks.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Your pumpkin pasta.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
You're the weird ones.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I'm the weird one. Yeah, yeah, you know it is
what it is. But yeah, nope, not just raw dogging
life with ship.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Oh no, you gotta make some more. How did they
not have a pumpkin spice? G feel yet? I feel
like that's something that should happened one.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Of the flavors that I asked for. That and hot
Load cream pie.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Oh, they would never do that, No, they absolutely would.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
What are you talking about.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I don't think they would, GF.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I think they.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Maybe cream pie, but not hot load cream pie.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Hot Load cream pie. Yeah, let's go brand.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I know we can get a cream pie one. I
just want romene. I just want close to romine, not
that melon rominee. I want just a.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Riginal at all.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I like it, but I want original romine. That's
the best flavor in the world.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
But what does cream pie? It taste like just like
whipped cream like.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I don't cream like ameal, Yeah, soda, Okay, that would work,
so an omeal cream pie.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I don't even know what I'm doing. This is such
a mess. I was late, Zach was late, food happened.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, everything.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I don't even want to be here, not like in
a hard sense, but just like it's random Wednesday recording.
There's nothing going on. It's like, all right, just going
to get out of the.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Way, and I apologize. I had one of the best
weeks of my life up until this point when I
was twenty five minutes late, and I feel like shit.
But holy shit, last week was fucking insane. So have
you guys ever had a movie theater to yourselves?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, you go to the movies and you're like, nobody's
fucking here. I've heard of the only people in there.
So I took my daughter and my girlfriend to go
see Deadpool versus Wolverine in three D. Yeah. No, it
actually I used to be like that. I used to

(08:25):
fucking hate three D movies with a passion. It made
me sick. The new one did not make me sick
at all. Had zero problems with it. So, first off,
thoroughly surprised by that. Then never seen this before? You
could upgrade seats to get like reclining and heated seats
and everything else. Like, fuck it, two extra dollars for

(08:47):
a three D movie and heated it and reclining seats,
let's do it. It was cheaper than every other Imax
or regional movie place around us, by like eight dollars
or ten dollars. I was like, that sounds fantastic. We're
gonna go to the eight dollars ticket place and we're
gonna see what this is like. There were zero fucking

(09:07):
people there. There was us three, and then three people
sat behind us, sat there laughing their asses off the
entire fucking movie, and it was fantastic. That is how
movies should be. That was fantastic. I loved having no
problem of having to worry about somebody sitting next to
me or be mad at me for fucking laughing too

(09:29):
hard the screen. Yeah, I got the middle seats of
the entire fucking thing, the first vip row of reclined seats,
and they were the row behind us, and that was it.
Now we were the only people that were in there.
It was the weirdest time that I've ever gone to
the movies. I guess I haven't gone to the movies since, like, wow,

(09:53):
dating myself the last Fifty Shades movie was the last
time I went to the movies.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
By Yourselfie went to see fifty.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
No, no, not by myself, Okay, it was the last
time I went to.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
The interesting choice. Uh so I had mentioned to you
after we ended the last episode that I was on.
I'm actually a filmmaker, so I'm like really picky about
going to the movies. I saw Dead Pull Wolverine with
like a packed, like no seats left auditorium, and I

(10:23):
think that's the way you're supposed to see it, like
with the crowd.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, unless the movie sucks and everybody's just like booing
and stuff, that's not fun.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
But with how many people are saying that they're bringing
their kids to this shit and they're bringing eight to
ten year olds to it, it made me few. I
was like, Okay, this is going this is going to
be a shit show. This is going to be hell.
And then I found this movie place and I was like, wait,
I heard about this place. They're fantastic and they have
like a pizza place inside the movie theater. You can

(10:53):
buy pizza if you want to buy pizza, you can
go and sit down and have whatever. Didn't even check
us to see if we had food on us or anything.
They just let us go in. And there was six
fucking people there. Oh, like, that's it's you know that
people that are going to an off the wall fucking
movie theater. That's like, oh, we got ten people here
for a Wednesday night showing. Those aren't going to be

(11:16):
the reject people that don't care about the movie. Those
are probably going to be the hyper fans. We watched
the entire movie. Everybody giggled at every joke, and then
not a single person moved until the full entire credits
rolled and the after credit scene rolled, And that is
so nice to be able to actually hear the shit
that's going on and nobody's fucking about or doing anything.

(11:39):
It was nice because you know that those people actually
wanted to be there, They cared enough to sit there
and not move. That was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I think it's the same for like PAC theater first week.
It's after the first week we start getting people like, oh,
I guess I'll just kind of see the movie everyone's
seeing it, and I'll be disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I don't know, I don't know, cause, like I don't
like watching movies. I don't like watching all shit ton
of movies. I struggle really hard. So that movie as
a whole, I was like, Oh, this is fantastic. I
love Deadpool. We watched all the Deadpools the day before
and we're like, you know what, fuck it, we're gonna go.
The cool thing about that place is you literally can

(12:18):
go online and buy a pack of ten tickets for
sixty bucks. That's fucking fantastic.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
That is good. Yeah, I mean they're like thirteen bucks.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Here.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Go to like the Declining for like real or like
just cinema wall, random place.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Cinemas like are go to here the Regals here. I
mean there's one Regal that has IMAX, but the seats
are like the old shitty stadium seating is like dumb
stuck to them and stuff, you know, So we just
go to the cinema.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
But my local regels like an hour away, and the
tickets were like twenty two dollars each. That's why I
was like, oh, let's try this place and see if
it's worth it. Absolutely fucking worth it.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Well, Regal has it. They have a thing where you
can you pay like a monthly price like twenty bucks
and you can see like unlimited movies every day. So
that's a way to do it. But no, that that's Regal.
Did I say Cinema.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I might have heard Regal.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Okay, yeah, Regal does that. And uh, I mean if
the if, if the theater was nicer, I would definitely go.
But it's just not I mean.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Well, six dollars and a like twenty minute travel out
of the way, or you travel an hour and you
have a what the fuck and one of those malls
that always has shooting problems and everything else. I don't know.
I'd rather go out of the way and go in
the weird fucking place where it's like a hole in

(13:52):
the wall place.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
There's a place like five minutes for me called Flick's
brew House, so like they brew their own beer and stuff,
but literally like you have to show up thirty minutes
early to order your food, like a waiter comes. That
food is amazing, dude. Yeah, it's got seriously like the
best some of the best food in town, honestly, and
we're in a big city. I'm an Albuquerque, so it's

(14:15):
saying a lot like they have the best burgers. Man
and uh during the movie, like if you run out
of popcorn or soda whatever, you ride on this little
notepad and hit a button and some guy like crouches
down through the special aisle and then reads it, and
then you know, five minutes later the popcorn shows up. Yeah,
it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I had that experience once. I was like, man, that's
that's the only way you can do movies. Yeah, it's
a predium, but that's like, that's like the better premium
instead of like, oh, some people spend thirty dollars on
it's just a regular ticket in a big city. Nah.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, And that's what blew me away is everybody was
around like twenty dollars. This place comes at eight, and
then a two dollars upgrade to ten or eleven. Like
that sounds pretty logical.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Man.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
It just does eleven dollars to go to something that
you're like, oh, I'll enjoy this. It's like I want
to watch it again. I'm completely okay watching it again. Oh,
enjoyable fucking session. But that movie is fantastic.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
It's great, Like it reminds me of the old Marvel days. Man.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
About like superhero movies and stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Did you see either of the first two Deadpools, because
they're more up your alley, They're more Yeah, I'm gonna
fuck around and break the fourth wall and be an
asshole and tell Dick jokes the entire time. Not I'm
gonna be Superman and nothing can beat me. That's why
I asked if you've seen it, because it seems more
up your alley.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, you'd probably dig those because they rated R and
like no filter at all. But I can I can
understand why some people, you know, they're like, oh, the
guy throws the car and then does a pose, and
it's like, you know, it's not entertaining to them. But
the Deadpool movies are great.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
No, I think it breaks the record for Disney movies
with the word fucking them. If you count all of
all of the Disney movies up until I think it
was last year or the year before, there's one fuck
ever uttered in a Disney movie up until that point.
Dedpool released as a Disney movie. I think it was
one hundred and seventy eight, Yeah, or one hundred and

(16:17):
fifty six something like that.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Destroyed that record.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yep, Nope, that record's gone now. And now he signed
on to do like three or four more movies that
they have planned and stuff like that. So I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Oh that's a good.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah. I think he's on the poster for the next
Avengers movie. What Doomsday was not Doomsday? The one after that?
It's like Secret Wars and yeah, Secret War he's on that.
He's on that cover. But yeah, that was a weird experience.
And to be able just to go and hang out
and be completely alone in a movie theater was also

(16:53):
an experience because before that never fucking happened. It was
always packed.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, yeah, the bimmies man.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
So me and Danny were sitting here flipping through the
Black Ops leeks and they are getting fucking weird.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
I thought you were mad at me because I kind
of came in with an attitude like, well, Zack, you're late,
so you can't be mad at me for making no lunch,
And then you had like a passive regressive response. I
was like, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean defense, like, no, no,
the black Ops leeks are just pissing you off.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
No, they really were. I was like, dude, this shit's fuck.
I was not mad at you at all. Let me
just well, I know, I know that. Like I said,
that's why the Black Ops lead. That's what it was. No,
they legitimately me and Danny were sitting here. What the
fuck is this? Yeah, no, it makes zero sense I game.

(17:44):
I came into this game thinking Cold War was a
pretty good call of Duty. I enjoyed it. I was like, oh, fuck,
they're gonna do Cold Work except a little bit faster,
a little bit more fun. Okay, that sounds great. This
new movement system looks like a five year old designed it.
I don't understand what the fuck is going on. They
said that fucking jet packs were too fast. Why are

(18:06):
we playing fucking max pain again? These people are literally
diving around shooting as they're fucking diving like this, and like,
what the fuck is going on? I don't understand. I
just don't. I don't understand. And Call of Duty is
being fucking strong with the leaks on this shit. They

(18:26):
are banning everybody and sending season to sists for everybody
releasing videos on this shit, and I'm like, what the
fuck is going on?

Speaker 3 (18:35):
The beta drops in like three weeks, right.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, yep, So are you excited for this since it's
the next big game? That kind of has anything going
on for it.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Uh. I mean, my brother loves zombies, so I'm excited
for that. But after seeing some of the weaks multiplayer,
it's just I don't know, we'll see. I have a
feeling the community just gonna turn out if it's really
that like shitty, you know. I mean, but they tend
to do that with every Call of Duty now after
like the first month or so.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, honestly, I've liked Monern Warfare three. I've thoroughly enjoyed it.
I've had zero problems with it.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
I don't like all the zoomer mechanics. Like when war
Zone came out, everyone's doing like all the crap sprinting
and dashing and stuff, and they're just like, that's the
tech you have to live up to. Now everything's like
fortnitified and apexified, where it's like, oh, yeah, you have
all this like super fast movement, that's the skill expression. Now.
I just miss raw gunplay and like strategic maneuvering and stuff.
So I don't like this elevated level too much. And

(19:37):
also with all the cheaters, Like, I just don't care
for Call of Duty. It's just too much cheating in
every game. Now whatever.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I guess somebody is working on a you know, the
Monto Warfare one remastered engine. No mont Warfare Remastered came
out with Infinite Warfare. It was like an add on
you could buy twenty bucks or whatever it was. Somebody's
using that engine and then COD for a mastered to
release Monto Warfare one and two remastered as like a

(20:04):
brand new version. If this game sucks, I might just
end up on that and just relive the old glory
days of Montal Warfare two and Montal Warfare one and
just go back to that again. I used to do
that all the time anyway, and I kind of I'm
getting the edge to do it again. But you know,
it's weird. It's really weird. Man. It sucks because I

(20:25):
live in that nostalgia of those two games so fucking
often that I just.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Oh, yeah, you just only bring it up and you're
only like, yo, this is where it's at.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
No, I just want to go back and play it.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
But it's like those early COD days and you have
like pKa and that's just the time for you.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
No, it sucks because it's like you go back and
you're like, oh, dude, I miss my friends. From then.
I miss going and hanging out with my friend Juice
Bag and everybody else that was a part of that
group where we would play fucking obnoxious songs anytime that
we won, so we would start yelling and screaming at people.
If you want us to shut up, if you don't
want to hear the music, win the game, you bunch

(21:03):
of shitters. And we had two hundred win fucking streaks,
and we didn't lose for weeks at a time. Like
it's weird, like I missed those days. I miss those
days so fucking much, and it sucks because it's like
that's when games were good. Go back to Black Ops one,
go back to montal War for two. Those were the
good days for me.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I wonder how much of it is not only like
the nostalgia playing those games, but just not really having
like any responsibility in life, you know, because I.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Have responsibility then, so I don't have that.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I was still in like middle school high school when
I was I was in middle school drops, but like
I had to move a lawn that was like it,
you know, I.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Had a baby when Black Ops one comes.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Oh that's right, Okah, that's what I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
That this is still Zach's Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, no, that's still parent era. Monal Warfare two came out.
That was a last game that came out that I
didn't have kids.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Gotcha, Yeah no, I I didn't have any kids, so
I was just I was sitting in my underwear all
day playing Call of Duty and like relatives will come
over and my dad would be like, this is all
he does. Oh, take the trash out. I'd like, put
some shorts on, take the trash out, back to underwear
game and again right after that, you.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Know, exactly, anytime that I had free I would be
sitting there flipping in between ESPN and Black Ops one
just quick click click click, okay, ESPN games loaded. I
can hear it. Click click click clickick back, go back
to play. God old shitty CRT TVs for ADP. Yeah
shit was stupid, But yeah no, that that nostalgia really

(22:43):
fucking hits. And I don't know why it does because
it doesn't seem like the generation now, it doesn't hit
with them the same way like my son loves Fortnite
and just zones in on that always. I'm like, how
do you not how do you not change it up?
Every now and then, and he will and then he

(23:05):
he won't even go back to like an old game.
He'll go new game, new game, new game, Fortnite again,
Like fucking hell is Fortnite. The nostalgia for you is
that it.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I mean that's the entire time. And I'm still just
like a Minecraft fanboy for thirteen years.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
I love Pokemon too well.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I mean like that's the only thing I play, just
Pokemon Minecraft League of Legends. So like the nostalgia is
just like, oh yeah, Season two League was the best,
and I don't know where Pokemon lands on like the best,
because like Gen six was cool, Jin four was cool,
but Let's go was hype Pokemon just keeping it fresh
on the on the competitive so I don't have like
too much nostalgia.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Pokemon's really interesting with nostalgia because it's like you'll have
little pockets of like Okay, I like that one and
I like that one, I don't like this part and
I like that part, and it's like you stroke my
nostalgia in different ways every now and then, and I'm like, oh,
I'm yeah, I got this.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Because Jen seven has the best news cycle with like
all that hype and we just haven't had that for
like the last eight years. But those weren't the best games,
so it's not like, oh, the hype of the leaks
made the games better. It was like now or As
was a better game.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
And then yeah, and all that nostalgia.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, everything has its own extent nostalgia. And then I
still like Thornshield Wild Area for the first time with
a DLC. Let's Go is just the best Switch game.
It's like, oh, there, there's no nostalgia. It just stays
good except for like, oh, yeah, Jen One was just
best at that as a kid at that time. That's
even like incomparable to everything else in gaming.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
We were we were actually talking about this beforehand before
you got here. I think we're just as you were
coming in. What's your top three favorite games of all time?
Because I have a very very solid three and then
it kind of tails off afterwards, but those top three
games are very fucking solid, and it's just those yeah,
specific type.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I thought about this a lot, and like it kind
of changes. It kind of like comes in and out.
It's hard to you know, just always lock in because
it's more like I have my favorite games for like
console or generations like Super Smash Bros. Melee on Cube,
Free Paper Mario on Nintendo sixty four, Free Super Nintendo
is Donkey Kong Country two. But then like, oh yeah,

(25:07):
but there's always a game Boy and Pokemon, then Harkoldzulsilver
on the DS. But then I think Minecraft. I'm not
gonna say like Minecraft is my favorite game, but I
think Minecraft is the best game of all time. It
is like the ultimate everything game. You pump mods into it, Sandbox.
Anyone can play Minecraft forever, and that's like what makes
it the perfect game simplicity, but also it's complexity. So

(25:30):
I really like Minecraft. And then I've just played a
lot of other games for a lot of other times,
even if their crap, like League of Legends or RuneScape.
So I don't really have it in like a top three,
cause like, yeah, Harkoldzilsilver is really cool, but then bow
Revolution was a better experience at the time, But bow
Revolution isn't the best game ever.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Nope, Danny, what do you like? What's your top three one?

Speaker 3 (25:53):
I would probably have to go GTA five. Okay, So
I just said that. I mean literally, that game is
just insane, like the fact that we're how many years
since it came out, and like people are still playing
it every day.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
I love playing RP. I just genuinely do.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, that's fun. I honestly don't know if GTA six
can live up to the hype of that game, dude,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
I think it might die. I think it might flop.
I think the fact that it's running off of, like
the Vice City hype of it might kill the entire game.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Like what else can they do?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
You know?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
I mean, they can bring back old mechanics and improve
upon them, like working out and getting bigger muscles and stuff,
and like maybe robbing anybody on the street. That that
might be easy if you can do that.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Okay, So GTA wise, the single player part of it
no longer inspires me at all. So let me just
write that off right off the forefront. The story, nobody
is going to give a fuck. Anybody thinks that anybody's
going to care about a story.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I think they will. I think they will.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
That people love it be the first month, but the
DK story will not be the reason why they keep
going back and people.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Playing GTA five still so much, isn't because like they're
running back the story or the story put them into
that positions like that, they just want the games.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
I still clicked from the campaign all the time though,
on like TikTok and stuff, so people.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Might be it might be relivable, but it's not like
I'm going to go jump in a jet and fly
around the map fifty times because I want to play
single player, right, I'm going to go because I want
to go play single player. It's not like going back
to Vice City and I I thought this was everybody.
It might just be me, Oh, you want to go
Recavic for twenty minutes and then you're done with the

(27:37):
game for a little bit. To me, that's where RP
kind of did something and was fantastic. Was like, it's
not I'm going to go get a jet. I'm going
to go get a tank. I'm gonna go steal fifty
cars or beat the game. It's something completely new. It's
actually something that you can accomplish step by step by step.
And I think that's why I liked it so much,

(27:57):
was it was something that was grindable, that wasn't so
heavily determined by what the story is in the game.
You literally could do fuck all. You could do anything. Yeah,
you could grind your way to the top. You could
steal your way to the top. It could be either way.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
M hm. That's like best games like Alden Ring. I
don't know if I put that in my top three,
but that might go into top five. And also Power World,
like when that game is full release, that could be
the new everything game.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
I played some Pale World and I was impressed.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, that was like the surprising thing where it's just like, oh,
it's not just a Pokemon with guns knockoff, it's a game.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
It's done, and like the the unluck system in that
game is just perfect. You're always getting new things and
crafting new things. And yeah, I think I died in
that game and lost all my shit by accident because
I accidentally went into like a boss area without realizing
it and I just didn't go back. But it's because
I'm like, oh, it's really access I'll just wait till

(28:57):
it fully releases anyways.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
But to finish my thought on GTA six, the problem
with a game like that, because it's going to be
modeled and affected with things like RP and everything else,
the setting and the story no longer matter because RP
is the biggest part of GTA now is that agreeable
or am I.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Are they gonna have RP right off right out of
the gate, though I don't think they will have to.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
They're gonna have They're gonna have to allow the GTA five.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Are they're working with. Do you think that's like working
with the company who does it?

Speaker 1 (29:30):
No? I think they are whoever. I think owned by
Rockstar Now.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
I mean, if you got that kind of money, that's
the move right just by five M.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
So yeah, if that is how it works, this isn't
gonna be a sixty seventies game, which is what GTA
VI City was. So now it has to be set
now so that way everything is available it's the same game.
So it either it has to be drastically different graphic
and fidelity wise and quality where everybody's going to complain

(30:02):
that it's nothing different. Mm because the graphics and everything else,
everybody's going to be adding to it, you know what
I'm saying. It's like Pokemon, if they actually accepted the
mods and the creative games that people make. At some point,
there's not going to be a change in the game itself.
Everything's already there, which is where Pokemon actually has something
because they create your things into it.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Mhm, Yeah, no one's ever going to come up with
Dynamax on their own, even for like a fan game.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
That's what I'm saying is like, yeah, they have little
saks like change it. That's where I think the mods
kind of make game struggle. And you see that in
games like GTA. How much can GTA change in this cycle?
And look at how far of a difference it's been.
If somebody takes the Skyrim fucking client and creates a

(30:51):
full entire game, how many people would actually play it.
I think a lot of people would if they actually
liked Skyrim. So you kind of can't make Skyrim to them.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, that's on that stuff. You can only just keep
upgrading the base game, and that works for Minecraft, but like,
how do you just upgrade GTA five? And I feel
like at some point will there be a power world
to a decade from now or something. It's like kind
of has to happen eventually. You just need a new
engine or a new source and go too. I think

(31:22):
just go two conpers that, Yeah, you eventually just have
to make the new game. And if it's the same
or like slightly different but not enough, like that's just
your new foundation for the modern era and it works.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Well, that's exactly what called g D zombies did too.
You have all that Wars zombies that had custom zombies available,
and then they're like, Okay, we'll finally release mod tools.
And then they did that in Black Ops three and
haven't done it again since. But yet at least those
things are available for Black Ops three. That's a huge
jump in fucking graphic tech. But how much is black

(31:55):
uh GTA five going to be different from GTA six.
I just I don't see where the answer is there.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
It doesn't have to be how much the GTA five
custom make like quarter bill something like that. And this
is a billion dollar game. I mean, if anybody's gonna innovate,
you would hope it's them.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's it's Rockstar. Honestly, they I haven't made a bad game.
I don't think this is crazy to say. I think
Rockstar by far is the best game dev out there currently. Like,
they have not released a song.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
It's pretty cracked right now. It's true that devs all
those souls.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
But I understand that's in the conversation. But they only
make one type of game.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, but they're really good at that.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
They absolutely are. I don't play those games, but I
understand they're good. But honestly, even if Rockstar is number two,
nobody's pushing past them for number two. No, No, they're
just not. So as a whole, I don't think that
they're going to release a bad game. People are going
to complain that it might not be different enough because

(33:03):
of how far we've pushed GTA five.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
I got hope.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I feel like, I don't think it needs to do
that because CS two, Yeah, CS two, it's like you
just need to modernize, you just need to upgrade it,
have the new baseline for the time, even if it
doesn't bring much like this is where people go now.
And also, like a billion dollars isn't too hard to catch,
Like Pokemon games are making over a billion dollars and
they're not like on that GTA five level. So it's

(33:29):
like you just need twenty million sales at sixty dollars,
but now the game's like seventy eighty, so I think
they can they can catch that billion towards does it matter?

Speaker 1 (33:37):
It will be interesting to see what it does numbers wise,
and I think that that'll be kind of the telltale
sign of what it's actually going to do, because if
it runs smoother on PCs, that's going to be the
biggest thing is now most people are switching from consoles.
The PC market's growing very, very, very fucking quickly. It's
not like when we were teenagers and nobody had computers

(34:00):
and everybody was on console. It's now changed. You have
to really steam or anything back. Then there has to
be some level of cross play. If they're going to
have five M on everything, and if they're not going
to have five M on everything, you got to have
five M available day one for PC. Don't even worry
about cross play then, just make sure five M is

(34:20):
available day one because if the server owners can get
things started and people going, it would be interesting to
see what actually is going to happen.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I mean, I don't think there's ever been. I mean,
I guess we'll actually see when it does come out,
but I don't think there's ever been in as much
hype as there is for this game.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
No, it's huge, it's absolutely huge. Yeah, but I wonder
if it's going to flop because of how much hype
is behind it.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Games die so quickly now, man, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Because like even if you look at GTA four to
GTA five, there's a big fucking jump from the PS
three to the PS for like, just there, that is
a huge jump. Yeah, GTA five is on PS five,
there's not as big of a jump. It's just it
graphically and console wise, there's not as big of a change.

(35:14):
So it's going to have to be more PC integrated,
is what the logical answer is. And how much is
that change going to be? It scares me. It scares me.
They put a billion down on a game that could
blow up and be amazing, but if they don't have
the tools and everything fine tuned at the beginning, it
might be a huge fucking failure.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
It will never fail. It will absolutely make at least
two bill no matter what happens.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, I'm not saying that is a failure. I'm saying
that if it, it might die player base wise until
the mods of work comes. So I hope they have
it soon because that might be where it fails. Yeah,
player base might die off completely.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I do think it is weird how fast games fall
off these days, which is like the social media. But yeah,
that was crazy. That wasn't a good game though.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
It was fine, but it just I can see why
it died so quick. Yeah, I mean they spent a
lot on that too, right, Hm.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
It was just like the most formulated game though, Like
I can mentally play that entire game. We're just like,
go to base, rate it over the course of twenty minutes,
sell back to planet, the other base, new planet, sell
level fifty. I win. I've now completely played all of
Starfield in my mind, and I have the gaming experience
to do that. Anyways.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah, like it kind of blew my mind that a game,
a brand new game, felt like dated already, you know, yeah,
I think that's.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Before every single time. Yeah, but then like Hell Divers
was crazy and then just fell off, Power World fell off,
But that's an early access game, so I mean, yeah,
I think for sure, Yeah, Power World's gonna be like
the test. If Power like full launches, gets like PvP
and massive, like more server support and better mods and
like whole and becomes like a Minecraft competitor or Fortnite

(37:03):
amount of people are playing, then all, right, games aren't dead.
But if that doesn't happen, yeah, it just seems like
everyone just burns through games too quick, or social media
just has them like so fraud they don't want to
put any work or effort into anything.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Well, I think a lot of that's even being shown
with the Pokemon community with mods. You look at Minecraft
with mods and stuff like that, If you have a
base that people want to use, they will hold on
to that base very very very adamantly. Like you look
at Call of Duty Zombies as well, with mods support
and everything else, they will hold on to that base
of I like Call of Duty Zombies. I like running

(37:38):
in circles and turning around and shooting, but at some
point those things die. It's weird that power World doesn't
have that staying power at this second because some of
those things aren't put there yet. And it's like cease
and desist letters were sent out for mods. What week
one that turned it into Pokemon the Pokemon mods and

(37:59):
stuff like that, Month one and whatever. So it's like, okay,
so they're being very protective over those things that they
could be mod that could be mods.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
They shutting it down. Power World said, we want moding support.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
But like the Call of Duty mods that have Pokemon
in them were not shut down, but.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Things are starting to Like Gary's mod got hit by Nintendo.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
For having douchebags, and I completely agree.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
And copyright protection. I want to see more. I want
to see everyone that's like unauthorized use of IP get
taken down.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
But I didn't know that Power World get I didn't
know it was because of mods. I thought it was
just because of how the game looked and how similar
to Pokemon.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Of look, no, I might be wrong, Ruless correct me
where I'm wrong, and everything else. They had a mod
that turned all of the Pals into Pokemon.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
That was a shitty YouTuber that put it behind a
pay Pal pay wall, and it wasn't even like fully
fleshed out pretty much. They just swapped all the models
and it was like the jank shittiest.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
That I can't believe that.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
That's yeah, and then and it got like two million views.
So Nintendo went the fuck you doing?

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Boy away?

Speaker 2 (39:11):
So that has nothing to do with Power World that
they didn't like. Nintendo didn't contact the Power worlds that say, hey,
you need to shut this down. No, Nintendo went, this
dude's a scumbag.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
That's why I was saying, was there's a line here
of That's what I was talking about.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
It has nothing to do with Power World.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Interesting as as a whole. You see a lot of
those things where it will be Call of Duty. Oh,
here's SpongeBob. You can play Call of Duty zombies and SpongeBob.
What is the difference there? And those things bring life
to the game, they definitely do. You see Pokemon mods
where it's complete custom games.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
It seems like a lot of people are becoming greedy
with those things, and it's going to be interesting to
see what happens with them because you see the custom
clients for Call of Duty, Monterware for three Zombie not
Monterawaar for three Black Ops three zomb Be, custom launchers
and everything else that you have to pay for to
get those things are being shut down now. I'm not

(40:08):
afraid to say this. I think Pokemon's gonna end up
having the same exact problem here soon because I'm.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Taking down a lot of devs and a lot of
ROM sites.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, but I think that there's going to be custom
rom sites that people are going to be charging money
for here soon they.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Can because like now they know they'll immediately get taken down.
Relic Castle was free and got taken down.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
No, I'm saying, like, say they take Scarlett and Violet
and make a complete game from the ground just used
it as the base, and then sell it.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
They know they can't do like, no one's starting that
project because they know they will get dmca'd instantly.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
So are the people that are doing it with call
of duty retarded or is it just a complete different cycle?

Speaker 2 (40:52):
They like, everyone knows Nintendo's way more litigious.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah than everybody's scared of that. Yeah, people are scared
of Nintendo. But I thought that was interesting. I on
social media, I had heard that they went straight up
knocking on like the Power World devs.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
That's just a straight lie. Everyone's clickbait.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
So yeah, that's a good example of how like one
little story gets turned into like all all days fucked.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah. Powerld devs came out and said, like we were
never approached by Nintendo. Of course, we have our own
legal council, and they said it was good. There is
like a midstory of like two pals from the first
trailer that like look exactly like Pokemon. They never made
it into the finished game, but then no, apparently no
contact from Nintendo's shut it down.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
And even like if you look at parody law, parody
law gives you the availability to slightly change things and
sell it. You can rip off Dunkin Donuts and create
a shirt that says dunk and D's nuts. Guess what,
that's completely acceptable. The thing is is how different does
it have to be? Because there are some pals that
look almost exactly like Pokemon that are just a shade

(41:54):
darker and slightly changed, not anymore. I'm saying from when
when you looked at them last time. There are those
poke Pokemon that look exactly like pals, and we're like,
that's fucking weird. That's bad. You gotta be more creative
than that. But you were creative enough not to be flagged,
so I accept it, I understand, But some of them

(42:14):
are fucking They were right on that line of that's
almost the same thing.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
I think. It's always about money. If you start eating
into whatever companies you know numbers, then of course they're
gonna come for you right away. But I think, yeah, well,
I remember when I first stopped into that game thinking
that the devs were in trouble, and I'm like, well,
I can kind of see why, but I feel like
they did a good job, like changing it just enough,

(42:42):
you know, So that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
But h yeah, what Zack said about mods breathing life
into a scene, I guess like it's different for Call
of Duty, but when it comes to Pokemon, I completely disagree.
I feel like all the expectation of like ROMs and
mods and nuzzlocks and hacking is splitting and destroying Pokemon.
So it's like, why can't, like there's more than enough
in the vanilla based game just play forever?

Speaker 1 (43:04):
So that's I'm not disagreeing with you, but I want
you to see it this way. Do you count competitive
call of Duty as the same as Call of Duty?
Is that the same thing?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Like two different things?

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Yeah? Different?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Call of Duty Zombies connected to Call of Duty and
Call of Duty multiplayer and Call of Duty competitive.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Like everyone plays it, but it is different scenes.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
That's my point. So if you look at all of
those things as an overarching story is just Call of
Duty and they're bringing people back to Call of Duty
by mods and stuff like that, then you also have
to understand that nuzz lockers and everything else that don't
even touch the competitive game are still a part of
that community. They may be splintering it, just like Call
of Duty Zombies did to Call of Duty. They splintered
a huge part of the player base because now they're

(43:51):
stuck on a game that's almost ten years old. But
as a whole, this is bad. No, I agree, I
agree it's bad, but it's still keeping people in that
ecosystem of playing Call of Duty. Like do you count
people that go back and play Pokemon Red as discounted
to the new games or they because.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
You can transfer it in, so like Red is actually
very relevant, especially you.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
See what I'm saying about is there's a toss up
of like, Okay.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
I want to say there's anything unofficials, Like I'm saying
someone that's doing uh what Emerald Reborn or whatever, Kaizo
or Nuzzlock, Like, that's not even someone in the Pokemon ecosystem.
They are completely detached and not doing anything for Pokemon.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
And that to me is like another shade of the GC.
Like and this might sound stupid, let me explain my
thought a little bit more so. The Bass game we
all know is fucking easy. It just is, like you
play the game. It might My four year old is
playing Pokemon. She's gotten through two of the gyms. She
can't even fully fucking read, yet she can get through

(44:58):
it because it tells her to press the button, and
she understands the types and that kind of stuff. She
understands it. So if we understand that a four year
old can play through part of the game, we understand
it's easy. We're not idiots. We understand how to go
through that part. So if VGC is the standard of
competitive Pokemon, there's also smog On. I understand you don't

(45:22):
like smog On, but it's a part of the community.
It's a part of so hair brained scheme that they're like,
this is the way to do it. Why isn't nuzz
locking and everything else the same in your mind in
that aspect of just a different shade of what it is.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Because of like the entire goal of Pokemon, everything funnels
into competitive and it's like, because that's that's really all
you can do in Pokemon's like you beat the game,
and then everything postgame is making battling someone else more accessible.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I completely agree, yeah some.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Ways, Like so if you're not doing that, you're not
in Pokemon. You're not you're outside of what the game
is driving you towards and where the community needs to be.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
So when there's a single player play through, I agree
with you completely not disagreeing with you. I as I
told you, I would love to play a Nuslock and
then go through and try and build a team for
VGC with the pokemon that I complete the Nuzlock with.
I think that's honestly the top of where competitive should be.
That's how you should have to play VGC is you

(46:24):
stream them. This is why, because it makes you learn
how to plan for what you need when you go
to the tournament.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, but I don't have.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
The entire bit RNG and all the Nuslock rules. Like,
I think the base game is perfect for what it.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Is, and I agree that's why I'm saying I understand
where your argument is. But I also think that when
those people are playing Nuslocks were more competitive challenging proms.
That is them learning that game at a different level
than what my four year old would or somebody that
just like would play normal Call of Duty. My son

(47:02):
who plays normal Call of Duty might not enjoy competitive
Call of Duty. He does, but he might not. It's
a different game, So not counting all of the Call
of Duty players in the same vein doesn't necessarily work.
Just like those and rom hackers that like the challenging games.
Might not like playing VGC, but if you brought nuzz

(47:22):
locking into the competitive mode like that, it might actually
bring more interest to it because it's you have to
play the game, and playing the game, you can't fucking
cheat because that game cartridge is validated when you go there,
and I think that would bring you more into accepting it.
If that's how it was.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Done, Absolutely not, because then I think that adds too much,
Like VGC is already too much of a knowledge gate
and skill gate for a lot of people to get into.
Adding nuzzlock on top of that. It's like again, now
we're just talking about ridiculous shit where it's like Pokemon's
great as this reason why I love it. It's like
I said that base gameplays.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Our regionals made. How often are regionals played.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Every two week? Sometimes every at least?

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Okay, then my thought process is wrong. If you did
it every two months and bid it every two months,
you played the game, and you had to replay the game.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Too, Nod's fucked that. That would kill Pokemon instantly. I
don't even want to do that. I don't want to
replay a nuzzlock of Pokemon every two weeks to compete.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
That's why.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
I mean, Naddy, I don't want to do that every
two years, but could.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
You see where that would be beneficial even if it's
just once. No, you don't agree at all.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
What makes Pokemon grae is not the RNG of what
you roll and adapt to. It's being able to theory
craft the thousand pieces that have ten thousand options inside
of them each.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
That's why I'm saying it would be interesting because there
is no meta then, like ban and Protecting, Call of
Duty during Black Ops three was my favorite because it
was you have to play with what you're available to have.
It's not play with the best gun. You might be
able to get something broken through ban and protect and
have a shitty gun.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
My theory on games since and like competitive development is
a lot different on like, yeah, you can do that,
Like if playing Nuzlock makes you better at VGC, just
like Vanilla VGC because you did some crazy theory crafting
or understand the game deeper through Nuslock's cool, but then
you still translate it back into core Pokemon. Now. If
it doesn't do any of that, then just a waste

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of time. So you spent two hundred hours on your
uzlock and now you cry and you hack into VGC
and you're a cheater now because you just don't want
to play Pokemon. I just want people playing Pokemon, just
play Pokemon to be normal.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
That's where it gets interesting to me, is like they
want every Pokemon to be played, so okay, so how
do you do that? How do you make it away
there is no meta or you get.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
And then like then it doesn't get solved instantly.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
And you know, every two weeks is probably a bit
too much if we want to be honest, it should
be one monthly, oneach regionals monthly. So also this week
I brought the kids to the Monster Trucks for the
first time, and that was a fucking blast. Danny, have
you ever gone to the Monster Trucks or Monster Jam
or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
I have vague memories of it, but I just saw
something about them doing a Monster Truck event here, so
I did think about taking my son.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
So I would suggest if it's a small indoor stadium,
don't do that. It's bullshit. If it's one of the outdoors,
if it's one of the outdoor stadiums, or if it's
like a local track that's doing it those are so
much more fun. So local to me is Albany, and
they have a small basketball arena that is dog shit

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to see them in because they they're doing nothing. You're
going twenty miles an hour and hoping that you win.
That sounds absolutely stupid. But we took them to the
local dirt track and they had the monster trucks there
and stuff like that, and it was a fucking ball.
So I was like, Okay, this is gonna be like
a two hundred dollars a night. Let's go have fun

(50:59):
and enjoy ourselves and stuff like that. And my littlest
is four. She just turned four, and she's a little
hell raiser. She's on one always. She's like you press
the gas pedal and she's got like always on go
or she is sleeping. She only has two speeds. She's

(51:21):
always going or she's sleeping. And I've never seen her
sit still other than like doing something that she wanted
to do more in my life. She was thoroughly interested.
She sat there watching them, she tried to ask and understand.
Even once she got tired of wearing the headphones, she
let me cover her ears so the way her ears

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didn't get hurt. And she sat there enjoying it the
entire time, and it was fantastic. It was fantastic to
watch her thoroughly like get giddy to do something. And
you know that's weird to kind of do you know
what I'm saying, like, oh, let's try and eerie craft
how to get a kid to enjoy something?

Speaker 2 (52:03):
What?

Speaker 1 (52:03):
How when do you bring your kid to the fucking museum? Like,
honestly one harm percent of Yeah, what the fuck? Why
are you bringing your five six year old to a museum?
That sounds absolutely like hell.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
They actually have some museums here they're like totally oriented
for kids. So I think it just depends on the museum.
But like I wouldn't take them to like the the
freaking Oppenheimer Nuclear or.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
The Natural History Museum. There's parts of it that's like, yeah,
kid oriented, they're going to touch the Jacob's ladder and
it's going to go up. But like how you're paying
what forty dollars to go to Yeah a twenty minute
time limit thing here.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah, here's my thought because like my mom is into
scrap booking, and she made like a scrap book of
like all the things we did as kids. My brain
starts at age six, if that like loose, Like I've
got a couple of kindergarten memories nothing before then there's
pictures of me and my brother at Disneyland when we're
like in strollers. So like that was a fucking waste

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that that did not develop any memories. That joy does
not carry on. That joy didn't even carry to me
getting to six seven years old, So like at some
point there is like a hard time. We have to
like it for yourself, and that's fucking weird.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Yeah, it just is.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Or if you think you're doing it for the kids,
then like, oh, it's a waste for everyone. Yeah, So yeah,
that was a weird thing. And then the same thing
on like those uh natural science museums or things for
like younger people, and unless it's like seven to eight,
I don't think it's worth it because it's not going
to get through or even be remembered. I remember going
to like a lot of kid ones like the ball

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moving structures and like you play.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Around with things like fucking dinosaurs or something like that.
Almost like if they're super into something and you bring
them to the train museum or you bring them to
the fucking Yeah, the dinosaur exhibit, those things might stick
like it has.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
To be something like that. It has to be like
one hard present focus, like you have to go there
with the intention to form a core memory that will
live with them forever. That's still a gamble, and that's
why I mean, I get anything under that is like
unless you can already tell now, I don't even think
you can tell. I wonder if I said something at
five and my parents went, he's dialed in, and I
went not, I don't fucking remember anything.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
I remember going to Disney World and my sister was
my youngest sister was the one that wanted to go.
I think she was like five at the time. From
the minute we got to Magic Kingdom, she fucking screamed
for like six fucking hours. It was the worst fucking
day of my entire childhood.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Other than the a lot with all the stories I've
heard and haven't heard.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Like, it was the most drawn out, slow, fucking day
I've ever had in my fucking life. It was just hell.
It was a five year old fucking screaming the entire
time because she was afraid of people in fucking costumes.
She's like, I can't see their face and everybody's fucking disconnected.
They're not fucking cartoon characters. This is bad. She fucking

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screamed the entire time. So, like, it is hard. And
I was just having this conversation with my oldest I
was like, I don't know what the fuck you want
to do. If you think of something you want to do,
let's do it. But like up until you're like sixteen,
I don't even know what the fuck to do.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Like honestly, actually I just remember another one. Like you
also have to make it like one hundred percent the
entire time, so if there's any downtime, the entire memory
is going to get wipe because like Disneyland, it's like, oh,
spending half the time, if not more, just in lines
or walking or at concessions. It's like, where's where's my
memory going?

Speaker 1 (55:39):
At Disney World, I don't even remember going on a
single fucking ride.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
You know you did, though, right?

Speaker 1 (55:46):
No, I didn't. We walked around for five hours, six hours.
The so we went with our landlord and my landlord's
kids and they were very very very snotty stuff up
brady shittheads that were extremely overweight and ate way too
fucking much. We went on zero percent of the things

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in Disney World. They did things because they could pay
and do things they had extra money. The only thing
that I remember going on that entire fucking week that
we were there was the go karts at There was
this place called Old Town where it was like a
h a walking only location. It was like an amusement
park that you didn't have to pay to enter, but

(56:30):
everything costs money essentially, And I went on the go
karts like five times and that was fun, but it's like,
is it a core memory? No, But that's all I
went on that entire time because I don't like water rides.
I don't like water. I can't fucking swim, so why
would I want to be wet? SeaWorld was more fun,

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but that was just seeing things and kind of just
standing there and going.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Ooh yeah something like. I went to a lot of
amusement parks as a kid because we do like summer
vacation and Dad would road trip from Florida to our
family in Ohio, so there's all kinds of stuff to
do along the way, like Miami, so like you pass
through Orlando, you go through all that. I love water parks,
I love swimming I am half water. I'm an aquatic being.
I love it so like I'm thinking, I'm like, but all, like,

(57:19):
all ten of those kind of just become one ish
memory of exactly I remember three down. Yeah, well, so
like I remember three seconds of going down the water
slide I went on. I don't know how many times?
Where's that memory? Where's that joy? Does it mean anything?

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Like?

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Was there a cool standout one? No? I played mini
golf and that was neat. But I can do that anywhere.
And then a lot of just walking. So again, like
trying to form a memory for a kid you have
like a very small window or else is just pissed away.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
It's got to be even tougher now with you know,
all the games and shows they watch.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, they'd rather just play Fortnite. They'll have a better
time with one hundred dollars in guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
And I think that's genuinely and honestly the truth. And
it sucks because like, Okay, it's not spending time with you.
That's not what it is because you, as a parent
can do that with them. It doesn't matter if it's
with you or without you. You could drop them off
with the monster trucks. They don't fucking care. You could
go to the Monster Trucks with them. They might enjoy it.

(58:24):
But it's a coin flip. But it's like something like
v Bucks. I remember when I was a kid, I
played this game called Yovil. It was like a sim
like you've.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Talked about this, but yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
I remember going on and spending like eighty ninety dollars
on Yovill because it was fucking fun, like being able
to buy the shit instead of having to work to
get it. Oh that's fucking fantastic. But can I tell
you one specific time that I bought something? No, kind
of sucks us. Goode RMTS in your in your in

(59:00):
Fortnite Bucks. Sorry, we get a nice little ten percent kickback.
That's nice. Yeah, I mean real, Yes, Oh, we have
a creator code code RMTS nice on through by Fortnite.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Even when we go to like restaurants, if the food
is not if my son doesn't like love the food,
he's like asking, you know, ten minutes after we sat down,
you know, like when are we going home? Because he
wants to watch TV. So yes, it's tough, man.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
I think like maybe depending on the family or depending
on the person. But for me, it's like it has
to be s tier or it's not memorable. So it's like,
it's worth buying the VIP pass, It's worth buying the
line Skip, It's worth the two hundred dollars upgrade because
I'd rather throw away the last three vacations since I
don't even remember those. I don't even know where we went.
And then like, if you just spend twice as much

(59:52):
on like the Ultra super Mega Premium, this will be
the best experience of your life, exact only aim for
those that's the play. And the funny thing is that
you mentioned food and russ because I like making my sauces,
and like, the reason why I made this pumpkin sauce
is because I want to be a saucier. And that's
because when I was a kid, I went to a
restaurant and had the best trout of my life. It

(01:00:15):
was a white wine sauce. I don't know what like
they did to it. I can't I was a kid,
but it was the greatest thing I've ever had in
my life. So I'm chasing that high by making a
dozen different sauces I have. I have a garlic cream sauce.
I've got this sauce. I've got lemon pepper sauce in
my arsenal, a ginger butter sauce, and like some other

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ones I can make. So it's like, that's that has
changed my life And it was just a twenty five
dollars trout at some random restaurant in Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
When both of you guys cook, do you go buy
a specific recipe or do you cook to how you
smell and taste and see it come to be the
thing that you want it to be.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
I'm seventy five percent intuition.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
I go buy recipes a lot of times if I
I feel like if it doesn't come out the way
I think, I'm like, oh, I definitely mess up the recipe,
like it's it's my fault. It's not the you know
what I mean, Like I didn't do something riot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
I don't know if it's ADHD, I don't know what
the fuck it is. When I cook, I cook to
how I want it to. Like, if I go to
the restaurant, I can pretty much replicate what I ate
when I come home, Like I can break it down
to kind of logically what it is. And I think
that's probably what Tony does. But as a whole, it's like,

(01:01:35):
if I can break it down to that level, then
I can pretty much make anything. I can kind of
have a logical ideal of whatever the fuck I want
to cook and have a kind of basis of what
that is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
I've mastered technique, and then I can just freestyle whatever
the fuck I.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Want exactly, and it's like, okay, so exactly what I want.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
This is the second attempt, because the first one was
dog shit. I actually know it was. It was the
most mid food I've ever made.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
But to make it probably exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
And that's the anxider of process, Like you can fuck up,
but you fuck up a little less, and then you
guide it and then it doesn't matter, and then you
write down the recipe to make sure you don't miss
it and like forget.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
And then uh, like I remember teaching myself how to
cook filet mignon because obviously, when you cook normal steak,
it is different than cooking fil a because it cooks differently.
It takes longer because it's thicker, but it also if
you get the small chunks of it, it cooks weird
and everything else. So it's all different normal steak. You

(01:02:33):
can cook it pretty consistently. It's a consistent time and
everything else in ADHD cooking time wise, I can tell
you exactly how it's supposed to look when it's coming
out of the oven. If it looks wrong, I can
tell you exactly what's wrong with it. But I remember
cooking fil a like five or six times within like
a month, just like perfecting it, and I'm like, okay,
now I got it, Timeline. I know exactly what I

(01:02:53):
have to do. I know how much rosemary and thyme
and salt and pepper and garlic and everything else to
put on it so it tastes like this, But it's
like there's that variance of like that one to two
percent of like okay, it's slightly bigger, slightly smaller.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Well, so yeah, like sometime just get like a bad
steak and then you you have a Crisi's like, did
I forget how to cook? Or is this steak just bad?
Was it frozen a little too long? Is it not fresh?
Is there not enough meat or fat?

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Or is it still slightly frozen? And you're like, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Fuck, so there are those factors. I'll throw you down uh,
and well, my problem with filet is that the color
doesn't mean shit in my experience, cause it's like, oh,
you get like that pinkish all. This is a perfect
medium rare filet. You did everything right, and it's like
the chewiest, like chewing raw meat. It's like, no, that

(01:03:41):
looks cooked. That is cooked, and they get one that's
like brown all the way through and some most tender
shit you've ever eaten.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
And as stupid as it sounds, the I only have
purchased filet from Walmart. So let me just be honest.
Everybody's gonna say that shit, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
No, you can get a good Walmart like, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
The quality levels that you purchase from so like the
choy and the angus and all of that shit does
not fucking matter. Just buy whatever looks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Right, whatever has the most fat, and like you squish
it and its tender. Just grab that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Yeah, exactly. The quality levels at Walmart mean fuck all.
They genuinely mean fuck all. You could grab that pink
fucking plastic wrap shit at the bottom and that will
be just as nice as individually rap shit that you
could buy. All of it's the same. They just changed
the pricing on it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Yeah, my biggest cooking advice is color doesn't matter, like
you know, if you cooked it long and like even
temperature to a degree where it's just like it reads
one thirty two. I kept it there at like three
minutes and then it's still raw. I'm like, nah, it's
like you just gotta you just gotta get that feel.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
No, I get the feel, and I know exactly when
it's supposed to be done, and I kind of got this.
I know exactly what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Yeah, and you're better off making it a steak that's
overdone and a little tougher than like a raw one
that can't be reheated into salvation.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Honestly, I think the worst steak I ever had was
the most expensive I ever had. It's like a seventy
dollars steak.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
The worst I ever had. My mom made it for me.
It was like the second time I've ever eaten steak.
So at this point, I've had a dog. I've had
zero steak in my life, and this sick was like
a hamburger. It was like fully fucking cooked. She's like, Zach,
put some barbecue sauce on and put some Italian dressing
on it, it'll be good. And it was like one

(01:05:29):
of those little thin ribbis that you got from the
cooler out of one of those trucks that runs around
and sells them. I don't know if that's a regional thing.
I don't know if that's in everywhere thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
I think those exist. In the nineties, they used.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
To have pickup trucks that would drive around all around
town and if you flag them down or they've decided
to stop at your house this day, you could buy
their steaks that were in the cooler cardboard boxes. We
still had Schwans literally up until like a couple of
weeks ago, but you could buy cardboard boxes worth a
steak out of their coolers in the back of their
pickup truck, and it was like twenty five dollars for

(01:06:03):
five steaks or whatever. And they were the shittiest fucking
steak should buy ever. And my mom decided overcook this
thing because she was so afraid of like giving people
food poisoning that she would just overcook everything to the
point where it's like pulling ass hairs out of my
ass and serving it to somebody. It's so fucking it's

(01:06:25):
so overcooked. It's so overdone. There's like nothing that you
can do to make this thing okay. And she gives
me like potatoes that were undercooked somehow, and I decided
to put a shit ton of salt on them. Someway.
It was like salt encrusted potatoes. A ten year old
Zach was a fucking weird dude. And I put fucking

(01:06:46):
barbecue sauce mixed with a one sauce on the steak,
and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna try this. I'm
gonna try this. I don't even understand why I felt
comfortable enough to go back to steak after this point,
but it was the most chewy fucking thing I've ever
eaten in my life. It was gray and brown all
the way through it. It looked like it looked almost

(01:07:09):
like pot roast. That's how dark it was. That's how
fucking fully cooked it was. And I started chewing it
and it made my teeth rebound, and that's I'm like,
what the fuck is this?

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
You actually ate just like rubber?

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Yeah, no, straight, I got I got a piece, I
got a piece of fucking gristle or fucking vein in it.
And it wouldn't chew.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
I got a car steak as well, Like, don't feel
bad if you're taking off too much. If that's like
a tough chunk of fat in there, just get rid
of it. That's not that's not rendering down.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Worst worst fucking steak I've ever had in my life
was that fucking cooler fucking steak out of the back
of a truck. Yeah, I think that should be everybody's
worst steak. But at you know, ten years old, how
can you ever trust the steak if that's one of
your first.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
That's why I actually i'm there. It was vegetarian until
I was like sixteen because I grew up in a
great situation. So every meat I had when I was
a kid was just like where I'm like, why do
people eat burger? Why do people eat this? And it
wasn't it wasn't made well, it was super cheap. All
the fish sticks were a freezer burnt, and the chicken
was just never coaked right. So I was like, oh,

(01:08:19):
I guess I don't like this thing that everyone likes.
I'm just only eating pasta and tofu for the rest
of my life. And I eventually like got into chicken
and fish and stuff, And it took a while until
I got into like I think my first burger was
like eighteen or something because I was just done. I
was just like, Nope, this is actually bad. I hate it.
And then I realized, my it was just low quality stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
You guys like sushi.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Love sushi. I love That's my number one food. Keep Yeah,
what you're saying about like one of the worst foods
you ever or one of the worst sticks you ever had,
being like a seventy dollars restaurant. The best steak I've
ever had was like a twenty eight dollar filet at
cheesecake factory. I don't know what it was. Yeah, I
don't know what it was, but I got the filet

(01:09:03):
at cheesecake. Well, actually I didn't get it. It was
a my girlfriend's birthday and she was just like I've
never had filet before, and I went, this is going
to be an expensive night. And then like I had,
like I had a little bit of it and like
that was the most tender meat butter I've ever had
in my life. That the person on the line made
the best steak of his life and served it at

(01:09:24):
that moment, and it was it was like thirty bucks,
and it was the greatest ever. I've had expensive steaks,
and they were good. I've never had a bad, like
seventy dollars steak, but I didn't have anything that lived
up to that cheesecake factory. Shit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
I've never had a seventy dollars steak. Like even my
most expensive steak that I've had was like thirty thirty
five dollars O Sokka.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Now was a prime It was flavorable, but it wasn't tender.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
But that that's probably the best steak I ever had
that I didn't cook myself. Was was it cut up?
Prime red? That shit is so fucking good, to.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Be fair, The only reason I had that steak is
because literally, like no other restaurant was open, like in town.
Everything like in Santa Fe, which is like, you know,
it's like forty five minutes away from Albuquerque, it's a
lot smaller. It's like an old town kind of vibe. Yeah,
I guess everything shuts down there at like eight o'clock,
and so that was like the only place open, and

(01:10:19):
everything was expensive. I think my my buddy was like,
I guess I'll get the cheapest thing, and it was
like a fifty dollars Hamburger, and he said that was
like way too salty, So I guess that restaurant just sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
But if I advise saw that, I'd be like, I'm
just going to a gas station and getting.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Give me some ramen. I will enjoy that so much
more than getting a fifty dollars fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
But honestly, I think that, like, oh, the only reason
I did it was because everything else is closed. That
doesn't fly with me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
My first time at Santa Fe, I was like, let's
try the food, and then that's the only thing opened,
so I wasn't expecting it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
To be so bad, you know, damn and Lucky Lesson learned,
I'd just be like, yo, that Santa Fe gas station ramen.
Fire can't get anywhere else, so you missed out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
And there's some caliente fucking ramen that's available.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Those gas station nachos they got, they got that extra
zest in them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Those hot diggity dogs I'm sure are fucking fire. But yeah, no,
I thought it was crazy that she actually thoroughly enjoyed
the monster trucks and chilled the fuck out, and then
it got really fucking cool. So for the longest time.
Anytime that something took longer than it should or anything else,

(01:11:28):
my wife would throw a fucking fit about everything because
it wasn't how she expected it to go, or she
kind of got iffy about things and got pissy about shit.
She would throw a fucking fit. I was like, babe,
I'm gonna stay with with the older two kids and
we're gonna get the stuff signed. Is that okay with you?

(01:11:49):
My girlfriend's like yeah, yeah, go ahead. So it starts raining,
I'm like, take the baby, go get in the car.
There's no reason to keep the baby in the crowds.
I'll stay with the older two and I'll get them
taken care of and everything else. And we stood where
we expected them to do all the signing and all
that stuff, and because it started raining, they moved it.
So we're standing there waiting in this pot of people

(01:12:12):
for like twenty five fucking minutes, no sign of the
drivers and everything else. No sign, no sign, no sign.
And I'm like, fuck, let me go ask the vendors
to see if they're moving it or something like that.
It's kind of logical, that's why they're not here yet.
They're like, no, no, it's it's over there. Still, we

(01:12:33):
go back stand there for another five to ten minutes, Like, guys,
let's walk Logically, they moved this and the vendors don't know.
Let's just go over there and walk around and look.
We ended up being the last in line for the signatures.
My son looks at me all nervous. He's like, Dad,
can you talk to them so that way, you know,

(01:12:54):
I don't have to Like no, no. I was like,
you told me all the time. Yeah, exactly. You told
me that you want to do YouTube, you told me
that you want to stream, you told me that you
want to do this stuff. We're not going to play
the game of Dad's going to do it for me.
You're going to do it. You're going to do all
of it. You're going to talk to every single driver.

(01:13:14):
You're going to introduce yourself, you're going to joke around
with him. You're going to put yourself on the map
and have that interaction. I was like, you're going to
do it. He's like, okay, dud. He sits there and
talks to every single one. My daughter did too, and
we get down to the last one. He's like, guys,
you're the last one. He signs everything. You're the last one,

(01:13:37):
and he pulls an American flag out. He's like, this
was on the winning truck tonight. I want you to
have it. He signs the American flag because he was
like a firefighter truck or whatever. He signs the flag.
He's like, this is for you, guys, and he wraps
it around my son's neck and he's like, that's for you.
He said, buddy, before you stop, you just made my

(01:13:57):
son's night. Now I want to make this even cool.
You want to come on a podcast for like two
hours and joke around and have some fun and tell
some stories and be able to kind of He's like absolutely,
and I will do it with any one of my
teammates that you guys want. We'll all come on. We'll
all do individual episodes whenever you're ready message us. So,

(01:14:19):
not only did he make my son's night, they're coming
on the podcast and coming to hang out and hang
out and tell stories and everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
And I was like, okay, I'm going to use this
as a learning time to show them. It's like ask
because if you ask people things, they will do it, because.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Most people don't work out that well.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
So we get out to the exit before we cross
the road and everything else and get into the parking lot,
and my son's like, Dad, none of that would have
happened if we were here with Mom, None of this,
And I'm like, oh, like I felt it, like I
knew what was going to be said, but I didn't
expect it to be said. And just like, if Mom

(01:14:59):
was here, we would be walking into the biggest shit
show ever, we would be walking into a huge fucking argument.
It would have been a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
We'd still be back at the wrong line complaining.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
No, we would have been yelled at to leave as
soon as everything was done. And it's like that would
have never happened. And I was like, and him seeing that,
him seeing the difference of this wouldn't have happened was
cool to me. And then him having his night made
by just somebody random, it's like, no, you get something special,
you get you get a part of the truck that

(01:15:33):
drove here tonight. Was so fucking cool. And then his face,
his face lighting up, being able to tell everybody I
got this, and I did this and I did that
was so fucking cool because it's like he wants to
be a streamer, so him having the guts to talk
to somebody that I have the availability to get him
in a conversation with, Like, that's the first step. What

(01:15:56):
happens if I'm able to have hex on here and
I'm like, Bud, can you do something for me? Like
we had Ronnie Ronnie from Red Jumpsuit Apparatus on here.
At one point I was like, I'm if I'm asking
too much, tell me, but today is my wife's birthday.
Can you wish her a happy birthday for me? And

(01:16:17):
talk to her for a minute, Like I don't care
if you say no, it's okay. And he sat there
talking to her for like five minutes. It's like those
things like having the balls to ask and having the
balls to be like, hey, can we do something? It's
a huge fucking step. So it's like, dude, if you're
going to be a streamer, you have to have the balls,
and you have to have the balls from day one
because any question you don't ask, anything, you don't try

(01:16:40):
and strive for, those are going to be the steps
that get you into doors. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
especially with my job.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
I also think it's it's how you ask as well,
Like obviously it sounds like you're very respectful about how
you want about it, because I mean, I hear horror stories,
you know, where people come up and they're they're already
taking a selfie without even asking and stuff, and like
that would just kiss people off, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
And I'll give you all of the sauce on how
to do this right now. First off, treat them as
if you've known them always, not in the uncomfortable way
of life.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Not in the parasocial way, but.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Hello, how are you doing? Give them, give them space
of a normal conversation, Love what you did, blah blah
blah blah blah. Give them parts of you first, then
say hey, I really love it if you could. Don't
ask for one hundred and fifty miles, ask for two miles,
especially if you didn't pay for something. If you see
somebody randomly walking somewhere, make it a normal conversation. If

(01:17:41):
you can't make it a normal conversation and you're not
a normal fucking person, don't fucking talk. But if you
have the availability to make somebody comfortable and have an
interaction with somebody, and it's valuable not only to you
but to them too, you can ask for pretty much anything.
You can have that level of let me ask and
have a conversation everything else, Like, Danny, do you mean

(01:18:02):
you ever have a negative conversation where you feel uncomfortable?

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
There's no way we treat each other like human beings,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
So, yeah, and that's exactly how it should be, you
know what I'm saying. Just have an available conversation where
you're lighthearted and throw things back and forth. If you
do that, it's not complicated. It's really not just being
light hearted and having fun and throw a joke back
and forth. You can get yourself into so many fucking
doors just by being lighthearted and fun and jovial. But

(01:18:35):
if you go too far on that spectrum of being
too lighthearted and weird, you get into those situations where
you show that you know more than they think that
they put out there and everything gets weird.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Yeah, that's not that's never good, and then you just
come up like a stalker.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Well no, not even that virulous. Have I told the
story of when I when I first joined PK on
here like fully to the level of where I called
Woody Matt for the first time. I just didn't know
if I told it, told it when you were here.
So when I first joined, we got into a group
call where we were getting ready to start the show

(01:19:13):
and stuff like that. I was like, hey, Matt, nice
to meet you. You don't call me Matt. WHOA. I
wasn't trying to be like I felt fucking awkward. I
was like, fuck like I was trying to be respectful
and like I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Didn't if anyone runs up and calls me Tony instead
of urlis they're out And still I.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Know, but you trust me enough to be like fifty
to fifty, flip back and forth and whatever is in
the conversation. I've said Tony on here twice, Tony twice
this episode, twice this episode. Both times Shoot answered to
it absolutely eloquently and perfectly. Fine. See that is the thing,
thank you. You have to make people comfortable enough in

(01:19:55):
the conversation to have those bits and pieces. You know
what I'm saying. It can't just be draw a blank
out of the wind. And that's what I did wrong there.
You know what I'm saying, I try to be too
respectful where it's not a respectful situation, and that to
me was weird. But no, it's crazy because if he
is able to do these things, and he's able to

(01:20:16):
do YouTuber streaming or whatever, how much more equipped is
he going to be Because he doesn't see somebody, even
like a monster truck driver who's living a dream job,
as a level that's so much higher than him. He
sees them as human. Now he just had conversations with them,
and he knows that I'm having conversations with them whenever
I feel like that to me, I wanted to get

(01:20:37):
that point across to them where it's like, guys, you
guys can talk to anybody. It doesn't matter if it's
somebody off the street, it doesn't matter who it is.
Those people will answer, and if they answer, they're human,
So don't treat them as if it's some big and
crazy thing. I still struggle with it. I struggle with
it all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
See, I think that even goes beyond like the whole
YouTuber streamer thing, Like you just need that in life,
and you just need to have the ability to take
initiative in doing things like again, the waiting around in
the wrong line. If there's no one in your friend
group that goes I'm actually just going to ask someone,
or let's go over there where like some people are
shuffling over and see if that's where the action is. Like,

(01:21:17):
your life just sucks, Like you're going to miss out
on ninety percent of cool things happening by not stepping
up for any situation, because like this happens a lot
of anime conventions are just like conventions social events that
you go to, like you actually have to be not
the NPC, go away from the crowd and have that
ability inside of you. So it's the same idea. It's
not only like, oh, if you want to be a

(01:21:37):
youtubeer streamer to do that, No, if you just want
to live life.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Do it. Well, absolutely, I'm just saying that. I think
that is such a skill that is so dead set
on this job specifically, Like, if you're uncomfortable interacting with
your chat, you cannot be a livestreamer. If you are
awkward towards people that are interacting with you, you cannot stream.
You might have to create completely scripted content and never
interact with a fan. Ever, it worked for Wings though

(01:22:03):
he actually interacts with chat. Though imagine if you just
didn't interact with chat and he was just silent to
them the entire time, Like I don't understand how those
streamers do it at all, but like, especially with the
way streaming is going now, having the availability to interact
with people that are above you and your opinion are

(01:22:24):
step one. Now, that is step one. And I guess
the kind of base job that this was, entertainment wise,
in normal everyday life was like sales. Like if you're
in a car dealership and you have the availability to
talk to everybody the same always, you are going to
succeed better than every other person at that job.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Yeah, because if.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
You treat a mom on welfare being able to barely
buy a car and a dude who's going to walk
in and buy a Lamborghini the same exact way, you
will sell more cars because everybody will be comfortable. And
that's what I wanted them to learn, is like, if
you're able to make people feel comfortable and you're able
to ask things of people and have that interaction, then
you will succeed at a different level. Yeah. I thought

(01:23:13):
that was I thought that was interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Yeah, that's cool. That was like a core memory.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
I hope so, at least for him. I don't know
if it's going to be for all of them. I
couldn't tell you, but I really kind of hope that
they actually enjoyed themselves, like enjoyed themselves to the point
where they're able to enjoy it and be able to
be like I like doing this. Like my daughter, my
youngest daughter, the baby was running around asking if we
could go to the Monster Trucks again. She's like, can

(01:23:41):
we go tomorrow? I was like, no, we got to
go next year, and she got all excited, We're going
next year. Like it's stuck enough to the point where
it's like I want to do it. Okay, that might
actually be something, even if it's not a core memory
of that specific time because you're four, it might be
a gap memory where you're like, I went the Monster Trucks.
I enjoyed doing this. This might be a thing that

(01:24:03):
she enjoys and that to me was cool. So I
put the thing in the chat for you. Some way
you can pick a story. And while you're picking a story.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
What is your superpower?

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Let's what is your superpower?

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
The superpower I want or my superpower as it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Is, superpower as it is right now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Being able to just like take a game and just
solve it, like actually having an above room temperature. IQ
seems to be a superpower these days. Strong critical thinking,
critical breakdown skills, as Mike dr.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Your logic and my logic. That level of logic that
we have to break things down or understand things that
some people don't is really fucking crazy. Like I remember
seeing our comment like three or four days ago. It's
like if you guys did an idiocracy radio level thing,
it would blow up. And it's like the fact that

(01:25:06):
that would blow up, calling people recharged for not understanding
normal everyday things that blowing up blows my fucking mind.
M hm, Danny, what would be your superpower?

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
I think like blowing myself so I can be into
places that once kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
You know, your superpower you have is a normal person.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Now as a normal person, like right now, like, what.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
What do you do better than you do on a
level that's not normal?

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Jeez, I don't know. I mean just work all the time,
like I guess is that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
I have?

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Yeah, I have relentless drive, like I'm always Motivatd's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Definitely again, Like much like just being kind of smart
is a superpower these days, actually wanting to work just
doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
And like mine, I I am able to put myself
in very very very very fucking uncomfortable situations and not
feel any problem like that situation talking to people that honestly, Like,
if we're gonna be honest, I am a nobody because
I'm behind the camera to three hundred and fifty thousand people. Okay,
So if I'm behind the camera, nobody really knows my face.

(01:26:19):
Does that matter to anybody? Nope, it doesn't fucking matter
at all. So as a whole, if I'm going to
ask something of somebody, I have to have the balls
to not feel like I'm equal to them, And having
the guts and the balls to make myself feel like
I'm equal always is a really fucking weird thing, especially
with my childhood, especially feeling like a burden always. So, Danny,

(01:26:42):
which story would you like to hear? Bud?

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
Yeah, I was getting lost over here. There's so many
to choose from them. I think I'm gonna go with
Grandma dying and reoccurring nightmares.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Okay, Actually, so we got a shout out from PK
last night. Earlist. I don't know if you watched the
new pknes We got a shout out on PKN, which
I shit myself. I'm what he's like. Yeah, they were
talking about family height and stuff, and I was like,
I'm the second tallest in my family. My dad's seven

(01:27:16):
foot tall, and Kyle's like, Zach's dad's seven foot tall,
he's six ' five. What he's like, Yeah, and his
mom six hundred pounds. You know, Zach's family makes no
fucking sense. And what he's like. You know, that man
has one hundred and fifty stories and a fucking tech
stoc that he sent me, and he told me that
the only one that I'm not allowed to choose is

(01:27:37):
number one because the first time he comes on here,
he wants to be able to tell that story. And
I was like, dude, Ie, I don't know if I'm
speaking this into existence. You're telling them that it's going
to happen. You're telling them right now it's going to
happen at some point. And that's fucking exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
That's that's untiered dopamine. That's not even s tier. That's
the tier above. That's when your girlfriend asks you for
the first time to join you in the shower level
of dopamine.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
I was so I was so excited. I was like
because even when Josh was a co host on here.
I was like, you're not to say anything about our show,
like I don't want the pass cross for that reason.
Let it be separate. I understand it would be great
to have that kickback. I don't want them to feel
like I am scumbagging anything. I want everything to feel genuine.

(01:28:26):
And that level of excitement felt so fucking fantastic. He's like, yeah,
he's a fucking kick ass storyteller. He sat there and
told me stories that I would have never fucking expected
to be true at all, and he will make you
feel like every single word of it is true. And
I was like, oh, oh, I.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Was just talking about you, though he doesn't say and
there's this like interesting furry co host.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Well they were talking about my stories.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
I'm just that level of uncomfort of like, didn't expect
that to happen, didn't expect that to happen at all,
was fucking weird. I just that was that was a
new level to me. I did not expect that one
to happen, because even when he was on here, I
was like, I don't expect this to amount to anything.
I shot my shot of like, if you want to

(01:29:10):
hear the story maybe, yeah, I've heard that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
I'm like, oh, Zach's Zach's throwing that out there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Let me drop my let me drop my nuts on
the line a little bit and see if it fucking works.
I think it might have. I fucking think it might.
There's a conversation going on behind the scenes where I
might be thrown in, and that to me was fucking weird.
So you guys get to hear a little bit of
the excitement behind the scenes. But I was excited, so
you wanted to hear Grandma dying and where that was

(01:29:40):
nightmare recurring nightmares.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
There was a tap out of the episode since like
everything was late and a little delayed. You can just
tell the store without me. My dog's going crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Yep, you're good.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
I had a good show. Like yo, I get to
talk about cooking and what's on. It was still a
good show. It's just like now we're running little beyond
what I thought, what I was expected. Yeah, it was cool.
Like I said, I was like, oh, Dancy again, that's all way,
that's just good. I'm down now.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Danny asked to be a normal he's I figured get
him back in there. Since we had a space. Now
go ahead, go walk your dog, go have fun. I'll
tell the story and have some fun. So my grandma
was like my person, Like if you think of your person, like, oh,

(01:30:26):
this person is everything to me. There everything that I
kind of was at that time, everything like she was
my mom. Essentially, my my creation is a bit fuzzy.
I was made for my grandparents, my grandparents. I was
with my grandparents at least fifty percent of the time.
So I remember the day my grandma passed almost entirely,

(01:30:48):
and I was just over four years old. Like she
passed right after my my brother passed, and that kind
of made it extremely hard to me because my brother
and I was just about to turn for and then
my grandma passed after I turned for. But that entire
situation burned into my head to a level that I

(01:31:11):
can't I can't fucking explain why it's so burnt in.
I remember we went out that day. We went to Walmart,
which was probably like a twenty minute drive, and uh,
we didn't even get anything big or crazy. I just
remember the rides of Walmart. I remember my my grandpa's
purple Dodge Caravan because that was the color she chose.

(01:31:33):
She just wanted that Dodge caravan, and uh, we got
home and we pulled in. Funnily enough, that is my
my girlfriend's Her family owns the over fifty five park
that they lived in at the time, so like our
pass crossed a little too much, but so that that

(01:31:57):
family connection is weird. But we pull in and they're like, Zach,
go hang out and go play your video games. So
I sat down, turned on my sega started playing Sonic two.
About twenty thirty minutes later, my stepdad walks in. He's like, Zach,
what are you doing? So he sits down and starts

(01:32:17):
playing Sonic with me and everything else, and my mom
goes out and hangs out with my grandma and my grandpa,
and I hear bang at the door. Probably like twenty
thirty minutes later. My aunt and uncle came. They dropped
something off for dinner or something like that or whatever.
They leave. They caught me out there and we sit

(01:32:38):
down and watch monster jam, which is why I wanted
to bring my kids because it was a part of
my childhood too. We sit down and watch all a
monster jam. I remember exactly what monster Jam it was.
It was the Pontiac Silver Dome there's the retaining wall
randomly in the middle of the track, and it was
fucking weird. I remember all of it. I actually rewatched
it on YouTube probably year and a half ago, just

(01:33:01):
because I wanted the nostalgia of it. I was able
to find it, and I was like, oh, look, I
remember that one. Like my idetic memory is fucking weird.
And after the show ends, I run and go pee
and I come out and my grandma collapsed on the floor.
And this happened like two or three times before this

(01:33:22):
where they had to call nine one one and everything
was okay after that point, and I just I didn't
feel right, like something just there was an eeriness to everything,
and it just didn't seem normal. It didn't feel like
all the pastimes. Something just didn't feel right. And uh

(01:33:42):
they called nine one one and she left in the ambulance.
I looked at my mom and I said, we need
to go. I don't know why at four years old
I had this level of pull. I was like, Mom,
we need to go, We need to go see grandma.
And she's like, Zach, I think, think you're right, And
I guess she passed away. She was going to the

(01:34:05):
closest hospital, which is about twenty miles away, instead of
the hospital she would normally go to, which was about
an hour away. And she ended up dealing with I
believe congestive heart failure or something wrong with her lungs
because she had amphysema as well. And she passed away
over the bridge that I absolutely fear like. I don't

(01:34:26):
know if added to my fear of bridges, but I've
always been fearful of bridges, and this just kind of
made it worse. When they told her, I guess that
she was going to this hospital, the local hospital. Within
five minutes, she died, supposedly because she died in the ambulance,
not in the hospital. And we walk in and my

(01:34:46):
uncle sitting there with her, and he said, she was
asking for you. I was always told that she died
in the ambulance, so I have no idea what's honest
and what's truth. When we got there, she didn't talk
to us. I remember the dark, gray, dimly lit room.
It was that weird pan that all hospitals are, and

(01:35:07):
you know, the only lights that were on were the
ones that were in the like shade where it's like
casting light on the back wall, so it kind of
diffuses the light. We stayed there for like twenty minutes.
Now was the last time I saw her, because I
didn't go to her funeral, and I started having these
weird ass fucking dreams, like really fucking weird. My favorite

(01:35:33):
movie at the time was Twister. Have you ever seen Twister? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Yeah, I love Twister.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
The sequel to it came out recently. It's a movie
about chasing tornadoes and stuff like that. And at this point,
a tornado just passed our house, probably about a year before,
maybe six months give or take. I don't know timeline
wise when all this stuff happened. I kind try and
pick up bits and pieces, but so much of the

(01:35:58):
history of it is really hard to grasp and like
figure out exactly when it was your four years. Fuck it,
most people don't even remember when they're four. Most people
don't remember when they're ten. We were just having this conversation,
but there is a drive in in my local region,

(01:36:19):
and we went to this drive in like a handful
of times, and there's an intersection right before the drive in,
and there's this part in Twister where the red Dodge
ram is like the big fucking focal point of the movie,
it becomes the truck that's on the cover of the movie.
They kind of redid it with the new one as well.

(01:36:41):
And my grandpa brought me to buy his Dodge Ram.
He brought a black and red one. It was kind
of funny because we watched the Flying Dodge movie together,
so it connected that too, and that's probably part of
why it connected to me memory wise. And me and
my grandma and my grandpa were driving the black god

(01:37:01):
Ram that he purchased after she passed, and she and
he traded in the van that they had. We would
take a right instead of going left to go to
the drive in up over a hill and down into
this valley almost where it's just like farm fields, like
nondescript farm fields where there's like hedges separating the farms
and all that stuff. Like everybody I assume could picture this.

(01:37:24):
I could be wrong. This could just be an upstate
New York thing. Couldn't tell you. But and then this
nightmare would replay from that part from pulling into that
road and going down the hill into this valley where
there's a whole bunch of farms, and my grandma would
look at my grandpa and be like, I can't do

(01:37:45):
this anymore. I can't. I can't keep going like this.
I'm hurting too bad. And that's where you would hear
a tornado and you would hear the sirens go off,
and up here there's no fucking tornadoes none, there's no
tornado sirens. We have tornado watches that go on the TV.
That's about it. Tornadoes don't fucking happen here. There's been

(01:38:05):
like one hundred in like the past one hundred years.
There's maybe one a year if that. And uh, she
looks back at me and says, I'm proud of you,
and I mean it. And as that happened, the tornado
would spin and suck up the truck and we would
all pass away, and I would wake up every single time,

(01:38:28):
every single fucking time that nightmare happened. Until I was fifteen.
I rewatched that nightmare at least one to two times
every month, every single year for fucking ten eleven years.
It was one of the most traumatic fucking things other

(01:38:48):
than like my abuse and everything else and all that
shit that I can ever fucking remember, because I can,
how many people can recite memories that are dreams like that.
It's like this happened, and then this happened, and this happened.
It reoccurred for the next six months after the first
one happened. Every single night I night terrors. They diagnosed

(01:39:10):
me with night terrors, that I was having panic attacks
in my sleep because this happened until I turned five
pretty much nightly, and I caused a lot of my
suicidal ideation. Actually, so I was suicidal at the age
of four because of all this shit, the nightmares and
everything else. I just wanted to roll out my window
because my mom put my bed. She stuck like two

(01:39:32):
mattresses on top of the box spring, and my bed
was level with a window, and she's like, Zach, this
is a third story window. So there's a ladder that
you have to throw out the window to climb down
if there's ever a problem. I always wondered what would
have happened if I just rolled out of it. It's
like I would have died. I'm not that dumb, Like
suicidal ideation is a bitch at four years old, but

(01:39:54):
like it sucks because those nightmares triggered me so fucking
badly for so long. It's crazy. I had that reoccurring
nightmare again, probably about a year and a half ago. No,
it was about two years ago. Now. I watched Twister
with my kids. It was like, oh, whoa, and then
that night that nightmare happened. I'm like, whoa. They no, No,

(01:40:18):
that's fucking weird. I was able to rewatch Twister, I
think like a week and a half, two weeks ago,
and I was completely okay. But it was weird. I
talked about the nightmare afterwards, and it was just a weird,
unsettling thing to have happened for so fucking long. So
that's been RMTS one fifty three. We'll see if fucking
next time. See alet of boys

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