RMTS 154: Verlisify Calls Out Pokémon For Failure

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up? The internet doesn't mess up? This time. We
had a horrible start and then my internet decided to
disconnect completely for a good twenty seconds. Welcome back to
R ANDTS one fifty four. This past couple weeks have
been absolute hell. So I apologize for last week. That
is completely on me. I'm going through lots of shit.
I could talk about a little bit of it, but

(00:20):
I can't talk about all of it. Blest, how's your
past couple weeks going?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Because storry to hear that I thought we were just like,
if it's no guest, we're just not gonna bother with
a podcast sometimes and it depends on the news.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm trying to keep it like eighty five percent or
so regardless of if we don't have a guest, we
have a show going up, because I think that consistency
will be what pushes it forward. Like pKa doesn't cancel
because they don't have a guest, or they a lot
of shows bulk recorded and stuff like that. Some way
they have guests always. But I don't think that that's

(00:54):
just scrap it because there isn't anything we've been told, Oh,
we could create a radio show where we could just
sit and rip on idiots every single day and it'd
be fine. So I think us going every single week
is as acceptable as possible. But sometimes, man, I know,
our mental health fucking struggle some days and some days
fucking suck.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I just want to be bothered. Sometimes I'm just like,
I just want to play Pokemon in League of Legends.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Today it's one of those days, man, And I'm trying
to force myself on this camera, and I think I'm
not trying to make sure that comes across as always.
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Speaker 2 (01:38):
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Speaker 1 (01:40):
It is it is. I didn't actually get a link, surprisingly,
but you know whatever it is what it is. Yes, yep,
go get the bogo, use one of our links, use
one of our codes. But no, it's been a it's
been a really fucking weird time and I'm getting shipped
on in three different ways right now, so it's kind

(02:00):
of weird as a whole. Like a lot of the
pKa sebreator right now are shitting on me because of
not being right at my computer for four hours, guaranteed
on every single second. And it's weird. It's honestly weird
because right now, as a whole, the past three years

(02:21):
of my life have been some of the hardest times,
and all of it's been on camera or behind a camera. So, like,
think of your worst day where you're working and you're like,
I just I don't want to be here. It's not
even that I don't want to be here, it's that
my mind is fucking jumping all over the place and
it's one of the hardest fucking things to deal with
with dealing with going through a divorce and everything else.

(02:43):
Like this shit is hard, and I don't necessarily know
if anybody gives a fuck or it matters, But think
of your hardest fucking day at work. Guys. It is
hard to be creative, and it's hard to force it
when there's days that are struggling, and it's really fucking hard,
and it's hard to be entertaining and try and force
yourself to be entertaining when you're not fucking Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
That's rough, buddy, But I think that's also like the
whole thing about the real men, because real men do
feel this way, real men do need therapy in some situations.
I'm not like on a deep fault like everyone needs therapy,
but said, like, if you need it, don't be scared.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
I think a lot of people genuinely do. Not everybody,
but I think a lot of people do. I think
there's a huge disconnected with people who feel comfortable enough
to staying with throwing. And that's the bigger part of
the issue is I think a lot of people will
feel more comfortable talking to a third party and not
either somebody in the situation or someone they already knew.
That way, they're not already prejudged by what the hell

(03:45):
is going on.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
At some point, it feels like you're just bothering your
friends and that doesn't feel good.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
No, absolutely, Like I'm one of those people that will
listen to absolutely everybody's problems, but I struggle fucking saying
anything's going on, unless like I get caught off guard
and I'm just you know, playing video games and just
venting and talking shit. But uh, it's hard. It's hard
because like I'm going through all of this and it's
right in front of everybody's faces, and it's like I

(04:11):
can't publicly talk about every single little bit of everything,
and that sucks because I'm very, very open, so I
try and just stay away from all of it because
it's easier to kind of curtail exactly what you're going
to say when it's not the exact thing that you're
not able to talk about. Like I could talk about
video games. I could talk about Pokemon and be completely fine,

(04:33):
but if it goes into anything philosophical right now, it's like, well,
this shit sucks. Life fucking sucks right now. And it's
just like it's hard. It's hard to kind of fully
be open and not be open and try and be
transparent but walk it back to a point where it's acceptable.
It's it's weird.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, that is a content greater dilemma. And now that
like RMTS is actually becoming something more serious and getting
like views that are like, well, wait a second, we're
not supposed to be doing this good, but we are
because we're earning it. It's like, oh, now these things
actually kind of matter and you have to try to
put in the quality or actually have to try to
work for it.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, And especially when I'm getting shit on at work too,
it's like, and not even by the people I work for.
It's the people that watch the content, and it's like, boys,
I love you, I don't care like shit on me
all you want. I'm a fucking retard on the internet
who makes dick jokes for a living, who talk shit
and literally just gets away with whatever the fuck's going on. Fine,

(05:30):
you cannot like me, that's absolutely fine. But creative burnout
fucking sucks. Realize that it fucking sucks. Realize that I
bring a lot to the fucking table for a lot
of different things. All that merch and everything that's about
to be launched, I did all of it. So I'm
just extremely, extremely fucking burnout. Between emotional burnout and creativity burnout,

(05:52):
I am burnt, and I am burnt like a motherfucker
right now. I'm the corner of the brownie that's stuck
to the Panama come out.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I don't like that because you usually just have to
do a whole dishwasher load to deal with that. I actually, oh,
there might there might be something there. Wait a second,
the dishwasher of your mind to get I'll think about it,
I'll live it.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I actually had a crazy story about brownies and doing
that exact thing once I was a there was a
plate of brownies and normally would leave them on like
the counter or the on top of the stove for
the next day for breakfast, because why I make breakfast
when you could have a brownie and brownie's about the
same as a muffin, and people eat chocolate chip muffins.
So bad life choice. But you know, finally an adult.

(06:37):
So I was like, ah, you know that chewy, great
part of the brownie that's on the outside. I get
to eat all of that this morning. So I walk
out to the living room, walk out to the kitchen,
and I take a steak knife. It was what was
in the pan. So I was like, oh, steak knife,
just start cutting it off, cutting it off, sit there
enjoying brownie, and I go to get the corner and
I have my hand over top of where I'm cutting

(06:59):
on the fucking the glass pie pan, and I went
chink and stuck my fucking thumb with a steak knife
all the way down to the bone in my thumb,
and holy fucking hell, I've never felt so weird in
my life. I have zero problems with blood, zero and
I have a very, very fucking high pain tolerance. I

(07:21):
looked out on my thumb went yink, and now I
was like, what the fuck is going on? And then
lightheaded and pass out on the floor within seconds. Wow,
just what the fuck's going on? I stand back up,
start washing off my hand. I'm like, babe, you need
to get up. Why I stabbed myself? Like, that's not
a way you want to wake somebody up either, because
my wife was sleeping on the couch. Uh. I go

(07:44):
to urgent care. They're like, you need stitches. I was like,
I've never had stitches. I'm not having stitches. I got
cut by a steak knife. Like, there's zero reason to
stitch this up. Can we just like take it closed
and leave it the fuck alone for a little bit?
In middle heel like yeah, sure, sure, yeah sure. So

(08:05):
I go home. Probably about two weeks, my thumb is
still fucking throbbing. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna
rewrap it from what they wrapped it with, and just
I taped up my entire thumb. I was like, fuck it.
I have to work with it. I have to be
able to do things with it. I can't just stop
working because I cut my thumb at home. So I
rewrap it with medical tape and then electrical tape over

(08:25):
top of that.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
With I thought it was going to be worse than that, like, oh,
no stitches, you didn't change the band aids for two weeks,
and like your thumb's just black. No.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
As far as like medical things, I'm very, very on
top of things because my mom was My mom was
a nurse, so I know exactly how to handle things
and kind of be on top of things. And my
wife was a nurse a nurse's aid for a while too,
So medical stuff, I'm kind of on top of that
as much as you as much as a normal person
can be, and probably a little bit more so I'm like, eh,

(08:56):
this really fucking hurts, but medical shit, not dealing with it,
not getting stitches. I don't want to deal with this.
So Advanced Warfare was out at the time, so I
was playing a ship ton of that and it's all
my right Yeah, it's all my right thumb. You can
see the scar stiff right that's coming across mm hm.

(09:19):
So uh, if you remember advanced warfare, you're double dashing
with sprint and everything else and jumping around. So I'm
carrying my thumb every single time.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I'm playing college something like you're not playing video games
on this thumb, are you?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
And I'm wondering, No, it didn't heal for a year.
The entire the entire next year, I haven't open cut
on my thumb, and I'm changing the bandages every couple
of days and everything else, taking taking complete care of it.
I'm like, you know, this is weird. It's it's not healing.

(09:56):
Their ship hanging out of my thumb. Now, let's go
to the R because probably should I go into the er.
They're like, Zach, this is the cleanest cut we've ever seen. Ever.
When did this happen? I was like nine months a
year ago? Like, what are you talking about? I cut
it with a brownie knife. They're like, you cut yourself

(10:20):
with a with a steak knife a year ago and
it's still you know, you just have muscle hanging out
of your thumb. So they taped it back up, same
exact thing I was doing, pushed back in the muscle
in my thumb, and they're like, Okay, it'll heal in
a week. Don't worry about it. Zero stitches, had zero
problems with it. They gave me liquid stitches. They glued
it back closet, but like it healed within a week

(10:42):
after that, still played video games, still did everything. But yeah,
I had an open fucking cut and muscle hanging out
of my thumb for a good year.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I'm surprised you didn't even think to like super glue it.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
At some point I did, like, and that's the crazy
thing is like it just didn't want to heal, And
it was probably advanced for it for absolutely taking a
hole on my thumb, but yeah, it just it didn't
want to heal between that and then having to work
and wet my hands and do all that shit. Like
I was wearing two pairs of gloves when I would
go to work because I was working in a deli

(11:14):
at the time, So having to do dishes and everything
else with you know, an open cut on your hand
probably isn't always the most fun thing in the world.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
It's definitely not gonna help with healing.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
No, definitely not. You know, wet dry, wet dry, wet dry.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Why women live longer than.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Then because men absolutely don't care. But yeah, it's brownies. Yeah,
you gotta.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Remind me of one time when I had like kitchen
shears and I cut like this part of my palm
because I don't remember what I was doing. I was just
doing something and just went and there was like a
v gash like that and didn't It's not that didn't heal.
It was just like the weirdest injury to just like
see and be like, oh, that's kind of bad. I

(12:00):
don't know what I'm supposed to do about this, and
then just like keeping it wrapped up for like two
weeks until it healed. Everything's good now. It was just like,
h the weird kitchen injury is what's like, I hate
the dress, little cuts.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Bruise or something that just never went away.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
No. Like.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
So I was riding my I was like twelve thirteen,
and I had a mountain bike and I loved jumping
and doing all that shit because I wanted to do
BMX and everything else. But I was a dipshit and
had the wrong bike whatever. And I had these three
stumps in my front yard and they were kind of
lined up so you could like jump across them and
have some fun and shit like that. And uh, I

(12:35):
went up one of them and my handlebars caught and
it fucking came back and smacked me in my stomach
and it wasn't like the entire handlebar came back. It
was like the end of it. It caught my ribs
and like ripped off. I had that bruise for like
eight nine months too, like just never fucking healed, and

(12:55):
then like the discoloration of the skin stayed there for
like a good two and a half years. Like what
the fuck is this?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
That sounds like a very bad, very serious what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I have no idea, zero is your idea. Never went
to the doctor for it, because who the fuck goes
to the doctor for a bruise? But like as a whole,
it's like, what the fuck happened? What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Something did not? Like something ruptured in there? Hi dog?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
But yeah, like what the fuck? What could that have been?
Who the fuck knows? And I'm like I was telling
my daughter that story the other day and I was like,
that's bad. My mom should have been like hospital now,
like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
But yeah, or at least after a week where it's
like that bruise ain't ain't doing anything, You're you are
very hurt.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, Like I think right underneath your ribs, like right here,
that's spleen, that's appendix, that's a whole.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I mean, like you have organs in there that that
are bruised.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Now, like who the fuck? Like was it bruised organs?
Was it halooling? Who the fuck is going? Who the
fuck knows? But that it was like it was about
like this big and stayed there for a good two years.
At after some point it was fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Could just ruptured and just been like oozing out for months.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, maybe that's why I'm so tired. I just have,
you know, internal bleeding that hasn't killed me yet, you know,
fifteen years later, but you know, still here seventeen years
not fifteen. So did you hear about the ship with
Disney that that went on?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah? That that makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
So do you want to lay out what happened with
them so that way people kind of?

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah? I think the rough rundown is like some dude's
wife ate at one of the restaurants and was like, hey,
I need a very or maybe it was.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I think it was. She was like, oh it was
she was anaphilectic to like peanuts or milk or something
like that. Yeah, what on this what on this menu?
Can I eat? They give her some? Well?

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I thinking about who who report it because yeah, like
some chicks, she went to a Disney restaurant and had
like severe allergies and like, hey, don't serve me this. Well,
she ended up dying because they served her that stuff.
And then it's whoever's filing the suit, like the husband
is filing. Yeah, and then Disney said, well, you signed

(15:19):
up for Disney Plus and there's a non arbitration clause
in there or is it what is it non arbitration?

Speaker 1 (15:26):
It is arbitration, just arbitration, Yeah, yeah it or this
is it to an arbiter instead of going through court.
But the crazy thing is is not only is it
in Disney Plus, it's also in the availability for their
tickets to purchase them as well. Yeah, so then it
gets into the really convoluted, disgusting waters of mass you
know law. But the crazy thing is is she asked

(15:49):
the fucking waiter, what can I eat here? Some way
I do not get sick?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Well, making it really clear.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, like she did everything she could. It's not like
the husband and asked, hey what can I eat? What
can she eat here? Because she can't fucking figure it out,
and they gave her the wrong plate. No, that's the
plate that they suggested for her allergy, and that to
me is a weird part.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
And they specifically went to the restaurant that's like really
good about catering to special food needs.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, so, I guess somewhere in their terms of service
for both their tickets and Disney Plus, which would also
include Hulu Plus and ESPN Plus, so all of you
got all of you you know, gym nerds that like,
oh yeah, I watch mma, this ship can happen to
you two mm hmm. In their in their terms of service,

(16:39):
there's a whole bunch of shit where you're not allowed
to sue them. They're not at fault for anything that
happens there, goes on with the story. They can be
completely in the wrong and negligent. Their argument is not
that they were not negligent, is that you do not
have a right to sue them. But this ship type

(17:00):
so far back to me. Remember when on Xbox was like, hey,
look you can share your games with your friends, and
you could and you could pass on titles and everything
else on console through the cloud, and shit, how many
terms of service do people not read now that they're like,
oh fuck, what the hell is actually going on? Because

(17:20):
I genuinely wonder what other companies are fucking us, Like
this is seemed fucking us. Is places like Xbox or
PlayStations still fucking us.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
I'm surprised no one has like just read through everything
and like someone on Reddit just like, oh, by the way,
every company does this, here's the list, or like there
isn't a website right now of like arbitration gamefuck you
read dot com and it's like, yeah, this is everyone
that has an arbitration clause inside of their tos, because like,
do you anyone can read it right now for anything
and then find out. But also a lot of people

(17:53):
like kind of ignore it because to a degree, like
legally they can't do that, like if you have an
outrageous term inside of a contract that isn't enforceable, you
can't like a contract can't say you owe me your
liver and then they take your liver.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Even on an easier bit YouTube bias, you had Michinema
who tried perpetuity contracts. They said, Okay, we'll pay you
at this rate every single day for the rest of
the time that your YouTube channel is on, and then
all of a sudden, you're signing children to contracts and
all of a sudden that doesn't work out too well.
It's just it's weird that we're still dealing with contract

(18:31):
disputes and contract problems in twenty twenty four. It's weird
that we have people, fucking companies that are allowed to
essentially kill you going into a situation like this, and
it's not, you know, a clean cut deal of yeah,
we were negligent, let's handle the problem.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Their lawyers are walking in saying like, well, we're not
at fault here because they signed, they have Hulu from
twenty nineteen. They're never allowed to see us for any reason.
And somehow the judge doesn't say million dollars just on
the spot.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
No, And that's crazy, Like, you look at my worker's
comp case when you started working where I was working,
and this will probably give it away. They're like, if
you ever have an injury, no matter what it is,
if it's a slip and fall, you break your foot,
you break your arm, whatever it is, we have to
take fifty thousand dollars out of the safe and then
it becomes your money to be set aside for your injury,

(19:26):
to make sure you're taken care of. Just fifty thousand
dollars regardless of what it is. It's a blanket thing
on top of all of the merchandise whatever. We lose
because you're off of the floor. And when I filled
out that worker's comp paperwork, I was berated the entire
time I was filling it out because he took it
as a personal attack on him. It's like, Bud, this

(19:48):
is a multi billion dollar company. How how is this
your problem? You as a human should be looking at
me and being like, Okay, your injury is real. You
believe me, and after that point you should be on
my team. It shouldn't be me versus you. Guess what
it cost you your job because you wanted to be
a douchebag. It's just it's crazy the terms of service

(20:13):
that some of these companies have. Oh, talk about this,
you're fired, do this, you're sued. What the fuck is
going on? Because we're losing We're supposed to be the
freest country in the world, but yet we're losing that
freedom every single time we sign up for something. We
could lose our life because we go to Disney World
and say that it's not their fault because they have

(20:33):
it in their terms of service. I hope this goes
to the Supreme Court. I hope that this isn't settled.
I hope that it fucking blows it up.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I think like even if like let's say this gets
overturned or something, or arbitration can't be enforced for whatever reason,
then said some cop president, I think, like you're still
at risk by going to Disney World because of the ticket,
Like if there's some kind of malfunction, Disney is not
going to open themselves up to to wich liability.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
And how this goes because like obviously there's amusement parks everywhere.
That insurance has to be fucking through the roof, Like
logically you have hundreds of thousands of people riding brides
to go up.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
See, the insurance is for the lawyers, not you.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, exactly, The insurance isn't for you. The insurance isn't
if you die or get hurt. So as a whole,
what part of this is the problem here? They have
to protect you in these situations. It has to be
a level of a service that you're given so way
you're not in danger.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Well, I think the problem is like how detached is
where it's like Hulu restaurant allergy somehow they made that
shit Disney Plus whatever.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
I also heard this argument because the husband was the
one that signed up for the Disney Plus account and
the husband was the one that purchased the tickets, it
does not get enforced on her. And I'm like, how
the fuck does that work? How is it so ministers
and so broken down and so direct that it's like
this thing, this thing controls everything else in the situation.

(22:07):
If if your wife purchases the tickets and she dies,
you get nothing? What what? And because it's an accident,
health insurance and life insurance doesn't fucking cover it. It's
not risk management insurance. Like, what the fuck's going on?
Because these are the people that need the help, like,

(22:30):
not people that are so happy and just sue everybody
always like what the fuck is this? Man?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
See, it does go both ways because the consumers have
also abused these privileges with frivolous lawsuits that have just
spunny around. Everyone's a fucking piece of shit? How about that?

Speaker 1 (22:46):
No, it is like you, I don't know about you.
When I was a kid, I remember giggling because it
was this product is hot on coffee cups from uh
McDonald's and now as an adult you find out that no,
that that lawsuit and everything else was the most legitimate
lawsuit of all time. Yeah, but how many times as

(23:07):
kids were retold, oh, that's some crazy ladies sued McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Exactly like, that was the example of a frivolous lawsuit.
And if you grow up in a very low income household,
that was the dream of your parents. Was like, oh,
if only we could get us one of those.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
No, my mom told me that shit was crazy, like that,
that was ridiculous, and there's your reason for it. It's like, wait, guys,
that's kind of the logical one. That's the one that
makes sense. What are you talking about? I don't know,
man Like, was my lawsuit frivolous? Was my lawsuit ridiculous?

(23:42):
I don't I don't understand, man Like, At some point
you have a right to be a human. At some point,
there's availability to make it that way your whole, and
when you're taken from being whole, you should be reimbursed
for that. But at the same time, man, some of
the shit's gross. You can die in Disney World now
and not get a single dime and your family will

(24:05):
never know. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Or your family does the suit and they don't see
any any money for your loss as well.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
So, speaking of lawsuits, did you see the Call of
Duty news that happened last week? So there was a
mod remaster, a Monor Warfare two that they were building
off of the Call of Duty Remastered engine from I
believe twenty seventeen, and they built it from the ground up.

(24:38):
God four Remastered went on sale and they're like, hey,
we're going to release it at the end of this sale. Like, guys,
we're going to do this the right way and this
isn't going to get taken down. We're going to release
this after the sale, so the way everybody can purchase
the game at a lower price and get Call of
Duty sales up. Call of Duty four Remastered reach is

(25:00):
I believe number three, possibly number one in sales for
that week. A dead game that has had no player
base ever on PC because it was an add on game,
no player base at all, all of a sudden reach
just top five on Steam sales. They're like, goddamn, guys,

(25:21):
we reinvigorated an entire community this game. Just it did
something after not doing anything. Ever, They're like, guys, we
received a Cease and Assist twelve hours before the game
was supposed to launch. They're like, we can't release it.

(25:43):
It's weird. They have mod tools for World at War
and Black Ops three. Mod tools are allowed on those games,
but anything that touches Modern Warfare two gets flagged automatically.
You guys might you guys might be like, oh, Zach,
you're crazy. No, this is where it gets weird. IW
four x was a mod that I played all of

(26:05):
the fucking time. I loved IW four x. It was
a Montern Warfare two reboot. It was essentially just a
launcher with stuff and you were able to play for free. Fantastic, Yes,
let's play. It gets taken down by a Cease and
Assist last year. Okay, maybe maybe they're taking down all
of them. Plutonium, which is for Black Ops two, has

(26:26):
been up this entire time, has not been flagged, is
not gone, and it was bigger than IW four x
the entire time. Why do they give so much of
a fuck about Modern Warfare two that they're like, you
know what, guys, we're gonna flag these ones and that's it.
I don't understand when Mont Warfare two is not safe

(26:48):
to play on PC at all. It's just not it
gives up your IP address, It gives up all of
your information everything.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
That's the weird thing about like the Pokemon Company with me,
because oh, there's a million rom hacks out there, but
every once while you only hear like one site getting
taken down, like Relic Castle. But it's like, what about
the other ten thousand that are hosting Pokemon rom hacks?
Why did only Pokemon Uranium go down when you should
just take out everything and then grabs Pokemon showdown too,
just to be safe. Like I don't under like, I

(27:21):
don't understand the enforcement even though I agree with it,
where it's like, okay, if you say no modding and
someone mods take it down, that's fair, but if you're
inconsistent about it, you just piss me off. Where it's
like you need to lock down your shit. So that's
why with this modern warforce two warfare too, the it's like, oh,
everyone knows you can't do this, there's been season desist before.
Why is everyone so surprised? But then hearing like other

(27:42):
launchers and stuff that haven't gone down, It's like, okay,
now now I'm just confused, even though it's still the
right call because I ANSWERD That's.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Where it gets hard. So say, say Diamond and Pearl
were what twenty years ago now?

Speaker 2 (27:58):
No, say seventeen?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, some that, Hey, I was fucking close. I didn't
even play Diamond and Pro and I just threw a
year out there and helped it was close. Say that
they were unplayable and they didn't make a remake of
them and everything else. Say after like the sixth gym,
the game fucking breaks and you can't play it. So
you get a bad egg and you can't catch anything.
However you want to say it, what if a mod

(28:22):
came out to fix that? Is that mod just as
bad as what you know, a rom hack is? Are
those the same to you? Or is fixing?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah? But also we don't like that analogy doesn't exist
in anything.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
I know. It doesn't work with Pokemon because even.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
In most games, like there's that one, what is it
like a battle Cats were like after level three? It
just like fucking freezes for the Sega Genesis or something
like you actually cannot play the level four No.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
And that's why I think that Mono wor Fair two
is weird. Is it's like a lot of the base
mods that that people release, whether it's I B four
X or this one, which this one ended up getting
released and now everybody's playing it regardless. It is like
these things fix the game to the point where it's playable.
Why is that as a mod? Not okay? And that's

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my question is.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Are there any other game examples where it's like, oh,
it's actually unplayable without mods, except for like maybe a
defunk server kind of game. Because your example, like oh,
after six gym, it just breaks your game, or you
just randomly have like a chance to get a bad
egg or something. It's like, I don't think there's really
any examples.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Were like, that's why it's hard to compare it to Pokemon,
but I Pokemon was the easiest place, not even Pokemon.
Just like.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Any game or series out there.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
It would be like if Skyrim had a break so
the mods fixed it, or follow out how to break
so the mods fixed it.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Isn't Sky allowed by the devs though.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yes, that's that's that's the problem. Is like they chose
World at War and Black Ops three for there to
be a full entire mod tool suite, Like it's not
even you have to go make one, it's there for you.
Every single person can use mods, and every single person
has the tools available to them. So why is Modern
War for two not allowed for a client just to

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be made that way? It's safe to play, and it
fixes and gives the patches that never got out of it.
What happens if the eighteen eighty seven's never got modded
or fixed? Okay, now it's fixed. Isn't that a much
better game? Wouldn't you want your game to be remembered
in a positive light? And that's where it's weird to me.
It's like, guys, we still want to play Modern Refare two.
We still want you to fix the servers. You won't

(30:31):
fix the servers. You're saying that it's against the game. Okay,
do you want the series to die because you don't
want to let people play the game that they want?
Like how many people go back and play Pokemon Platinum
or something like that because that's the game that they love.
What happens if you can't do that? What happens if
all of a sudden after six years they're like, no,
we turned it off.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
That's that's the devs made it. They could take it
out of this world too.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely I just think it's weird when you
allow it in some places don't allow it in mother.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, that's that's like it's weird. But I also don't
think that makes like modding more right. I'm just like, Okay,
then crack down harder devs, like if people are breaking
the rules, punish them.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
And if don't, well, like say, they allowed modding for
fire Red and leaf Green and that's the only generation
that they allowed it for, and somebody made a Gen
six mod Okay, why is the Gen six mod down?
If they allow tools for the games themselves, is the
fact that they are allowing mod tools on any of
their games the reason why it should be okay, I

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don't think.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
That would be. I don't think that would be an
argument because, like the deb what they were just experimenting
where it's like, oh, all these people want modding tools,
let's give it to them and see what happens. Then
devs go wait a saying we don't want what this.
They're bastardizing the shit out of our thing, Like at
least in the case of Pokemon, where it's like, oh,
they turned fire red leaf Green into something we absolutely
don't want represent and that's the most popular mod. People

(31:55):
care more about the mod than our game. We can't
do that again. So just because like it existed one
doesn't mean they have to now.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
And that's where it's hard to try and piece together
and figure out is this a logical thing where they're like, okay,
all mods should be down. Okay, then why are not
all of the mods down? You can't say Black Ops
two is available because World at War and Black Ops
three is, but Modern Warfare two is not. I don't understand.
It's just inconsistent, and you're seeing that with a lot

(32:22):
of shit. Now, Oh, why is Timmy's mom down the
street allowed to make tumblers with celebrities faces or catchphrases
on them? And then the second that, all of a
sudden they get sued for two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars for copyright infringement Like these rules in these laws
were made to go against other companies infringing on things,

(32:44):
not Timmy down the Street doing something. Timmy down the
Street is doing something wrong. I agree with you completely,
but those deceas and assist things that are happening are
in a weird fucking place now because they are getting
more and more aggressive with everything.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
More more accessibility. Like if you're just printing a picture
of Taylor's swift and then slapping on a mug in
the nineties and selling it to the neighborhood, that has
no effect on the market value. But now if you're
doing an Etsy shop with that shit and getting ten
thousand sales a month, now you got it. Now you
are effectively a business. You need to be taken down,
and I think it is fair to stomp that out
even as it's growing. We're just like, oh, this, this

(33:20):
is gonna have way too much publicity. Did you can't
exist with the consumer?

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Did you see the lady that was sued because of
an Etsy and Amazon store by the copyright infringement law
for a guy named Bluke Combs. He's a country music
star and stuff like that. Now this lady sold five cups,
she made two hundred and ten dollars. She's like, hey, guys,
I made two hundred and ten dollars. I'm happy. She

(33:46):
gets a cease and assist, she gets a lawsuit. She
didn't even go to court. She was found guilty and
was charged two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a
copyright infringement news story hits and Luke Combs, I guess
woke up, was scrolling through TikTok as he was shitting

(34:07):
as everybody does, and it pops up on his seed.
Ladies sued two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for copyright
law or whatever, and he's like, get me her number,
and he gets in touch with her fixes the entire
thing drops. The entire suit says, we're not doing this.

(34:27):
How comfortable I am or my rights to my name
isn't worth everybody in the world getting fucked over because
of because of somebody making two three thousand dollars, that
money means nothing to me. Me getting two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars from that person literally means nothing to me.
This is to protect against scalpers that go to concerts
and sell thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars of

(34:49):
shirts at every single concert. It's not to fuck with
Timmy's mom down the street. And I think that's where
these mods are kind of having a problem, is like,
we're not charging money for this, We're telling you to
go purchase the game. If you purchase the game, at
some point there's an argument, and I don't know what
that argument is because I don't agree with that argument,

(35:11):
but there is an argument.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
That's why the legality is so weird because you can't say, like,
here's the line, once you sell three hundred dollars in
counterfeit merchandise, you're now automatically able to be sued. Or
if you get three hundred downloads, now your mod's a problem.
So like, exactly, just do the shit they say to
not do, but some people don't even know, like they
can't do it like that.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
And then there's parody law, like if you change something slightly,
it doesn't actually change the thing. They know exactly what
it is. But it's something like a T shirt with
Duncan D's Nuts and the D and D logo from
fucking dunkin Donuts. Is that against copyright law? Technically it is.
Technically it's also protected by parity law and they can
make money off of it, but they can be sued

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for copyright infringement.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
It's like thing about fair use.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, we need some sort of directive here because this
shit just doesn't make sense. You can't do that because.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Then the president will change every three weeks. Where it's
like this lawsuit showed there's a loophole that the consumer
can now just straight up steal everything and then they
overshoot and it's like, well, now you're not letting make
any products. So that's that's why, that's why lawyers exist too.
They can take this ambiguity and then they can just
make it weirder for whatever side they want to argue for,
Like that's all it is, Like there's this much room

(36:27):
in between every law and that's what lawyers exist for.
They find something to pull into that.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
And it's like the more that they fight and the
more that they have availability to work in that gray
area regardless of what they're fighting for it today it's
like that's the only reason they make money, as they're
able to work in between okay, right and or wrong
and I'm gonna be gray area and make something portrayed
as right when it's wrong.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
I mean, they're the only ones that have the power
to go into the ether and and mess with that shit.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Because genuinely, like both of us on a daily basis,
use fair use. Technically, if you're not given availability to
your copyright for using Pokemon, they could sue you and everything.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Else we are given availability through the Nintendo like guidelines
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
But yeah, I remember I did it. The logical way
I emailed Activision was like, hey, is this legal to
is this legal to produce content for this game? They're
all like, yes, do whatever you would.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Like with it, And that was probably already in the
terms of service somewhere, but as we talked about twenty
minutes ago, no one reads that shit.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
But it's also the logical way to go about it,
because when you say a game like Madden that has
actual music in it, technically, when you purchase that game,
the copyright for that music where it. If EA allows
you to create content with that game, that music is
technically their use. That music should be available.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I think that's how that works. You're not purchasing the
license to the music when you purchase the game.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
But it's a minimum gray area. It could be argued
either way. When you purchase the game, they want the
music in there for that music to receive growth and
plays and everything else, which.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Is what depends on the tos. There might be some
ts like you do not own a license to the
music inside of this or that's at what Activision signed,
and as the consumer, you don't even get to know
that even though that is how it's enforced, where it's
like Activision said or Activision was told by the music company,
you cannot transfer this license. License non transferable, therefore it

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doesn't transfer to the consumer.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
And that's not great. That's where weird games come in.
Like think about the people that would be streaming technically
Guitar Hero or something like that. Now, like if Guitar
Hero was big still and it's growing much bigger than
what it was with Clone Hero on everything else, but
those things technically that you don't have a license to
play that music on your stream. Yeah, you could say, hey,

(38:46):
here's a link to them. Are you really going to
link five thousand songs?

Speaker 2 (38:50):
I mean, that's just like anyone that has copyright music
for any of their content that they make. Like it's
no different just because it's in a video game.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Have you looked into the pricing for releasing music? Very
expensive our videos.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
That's why like Nintendo doesn't even keep it up. There
was something crazy where people like Nintendo took down their
original switch trailer that means the switch to announcement's coming.
It was like, no, the license right now, and there's
no reason to keep that going.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, it's for a channel under one hundred k. I
believe it's five hundred dollars for one song that you've
heard on the top forty. And as your viewership goes up,
whereas the timeline goes up, it goes up in price.
And it's multiplicative, not a not addition. It's not five
dollars for every thousand viewers. It's like five hundred dollars

(39:40):
for every thousand viewers. And it gets fucking insane just
because you want to actually look professional or sound professional.
It's insane. So what actually was going on with your
stream the other night? Because I was in there and
I was fucking about and watching.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Because in Pokemon Worlds, the president of the Pokemon Company
came in for the opening ceremony and said there will
be news about upcoming Pokemon games at the closing ceremony.
So during the closing ceremony, everyone's in there, like, let's go.
It's been you know February, Actually no, not like it
was in March, April, May, June, July, August, six months
without Pokemon news about Pokemon Legend ZA. We have had

(40:20):
no trailers, no Pokemon presents. We get a Pokemon presents
in June or August always nothing so like six months,
which is like, oh, he has to show it. At
Pokemon World, the largest Pokemon event is of course going
to have the trailer for the new Pokemon game, and
then they didn't. They went, here's Pokemon Go, here's TCG Pocket,
which looks cool, and here's Pokemon Unite bye.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
And other than TCG Pocket, which I'm thoroughly excited.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
For, I'm hoping it's the next like Pokemon Go, where
it's like, oh, tens of millions of daily players, let's go.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I don't. I don't think it's going to be Pokemon Go.
What I think it's going to be comparative to is
Yugyo Duelings. And I hope that it is as playable
and as like actual game driven instead of it just
being a TCG rip where it's the exact same game.
Make it that way. It's quick and playable.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
They've already shown it's the manything where there's points.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, I know I like it, but I'm saying like
we haven't seen enough to be like, okay, it's an
exact kind of replica of this, like it's Magic Arena.
No magic arena is too long. You do not want
games at last forty five minutes to an hour.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
You know they've already shown a lot about how it plays.
It's simplified mechanics. We can there's ex Pokemon that worth
two points. You played to three points, so no prize cards.
There's no prize cards, so you're not losing bullshit to
a prize card pile. You're only playing half of a game,
which is very similar to like dual Links and the
other ones and then fantastic then it's three points. Ex
are still worth two so like an ex and regular

(41:49):
Pokemon games over and the power level looks very dumb
down where it's like an ex Pokemon only does eighty
ninety damage on three energy. It's good Pokemon.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
From what I saw, it's a lot of like if
you remember the Pokemon cards that came out in our childhood,
it's a lot of those cards. Oh they were I
remember learning how to play Pokemon the TCG, and me
and my mom would play any energy because it's just
so much easier to you would have the right energy,
it doesn't really matter, it's good enough whatever, and we

(42:22):
would sit there and play it like that. So the
way we could play together. We could play with my
sister or whatever. And it's easier to teach them because oh,
you have to match the colors that are here. So
the way it works, but this color can be counted
as any color gets kind of confusing when you're talking
to a six year old. And I love playing the TCG.
I just loved it like it was my thing at

(42:43):
that time. Them making it more available and on our
phones and stuff like that. Wait, it's not I'm playing
Duel Links from ten years ago on my toilet for
fifteen minutes because you know, I want something to do
is really fucking exciting to me. And the fact that's
bringing back that same art.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
If this is half of Pokemon go, yeah, popularity, that's hype.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
If it's the same level as Duel Links. Think Pokemon
has more eyes than Yu Giah in the card game
and in just media by itself, it's one of the
largest media conglomerates in the world, right, I think we've
had this conversation. It's like top three or whatever. Like,
think about that. How many eyes are going to play
the TCG. Everybody who plays the TCG now will a

(43:26):
lot of people who do YouTube will test it out
and try it on YouTube. Is this going to be
something similar to duel links where it fucking blew up
right off the bat because it has a real validity
to it. If there is a game level to it
where this character does this thing and you can actually
like meta build, it will fucking blow up because it

(43:48):
seems like everything competitive wise. If there's a normal level
to it and then a competitive level to it, it
blows up. If there's a ranking system, this thing's going
to go.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, that's like another weird thing about Pokemon's like all
they have to do is just make things feel more
competitive and integrate that immediately, because like Pokemon Go eventually
got competitive, and now that shit's at world, It's like
even though it's like, oh TCG Pocket, I'm playing half
of a mobile Pokemon TCG games, Like that's your biggest
market though, and if you make that competitive then that's
actually huge. And the thing is like Pokemon TCG Live

(44:18):
or online like that just never went anywhere where you
get like the codes from the packs and you build
your shit online like that.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
From my because I was trying to find the quick
the early download for Pocket and just the way everybody
knows this. When you search Pokemon TCGD, Pocket is not
the first one that comes up at all. Pokemon Go
comes up before Pocket does, and I try and Pokemon
Live it's like two stars out of five on that's
because it's broken. Yeah, well things.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Like Pokemon TCG Online was all right, and it wasn't like, oh,
this is worth putting all my time into and like
farming codes and stuff to really build out.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
It's slow, there's no game to it. It is like
playing MTG Arena or like playing like Master Duel.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
But even then, like if it was like it's a
Pokemon game on the PC though, that should be everything
right there where it's like, oh, I have accessibility to TCG,
don't have to go down to the card store, and
I can still like play and farm the game. But
it just didn't really become a thing. So TCG Live
was supposed to upgrade that. It was in beta for
like two years and then just like launched Buggy Mess,
people's cards and profiles weren't transferring over. There's no reason

(45:29):
to play it. It just doesn't work half the time.
So it's like, okay, how about this, you just make
that that's a simpler game. You make your you gio duelings,
you make your whatever. Because even now, like no one
wants to play modern Pokemon, they grew up with it
where it's like, oh, yeah, I don't want to play
with an EX that does two hundred damage on two
energy and has a disgustingly broken passive and all of
these other things with like supporters and x spex or

(45:52):
aspex and all these other things.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
It might sound autistake or it might sound retarded, and
I'm not sure which one, or it might sound both.
When when you jump up the scaling in something like
damage or something like that, and you look at this
if you go back to the older call of Duties
and stuff like that and Pokemon TCG and yu Gi. Oh,
when you jump up the damage in something or make

(46:15):
the damage drop down to the point where it's like, oh,
you have eight shot kills instead of two shot kills,
it makes everything timing wise in your head kind of
fuck up. Almost. It's like, okay, so if I put
one energy on here, this should not be a game mender.
Why is a two card combo a game nder? Here? Oh,

(46:36):
I should be using ritata to do twenty damage because
I put on one energy and that works. This retata,
unless you're a fucking brain dead retard, should not win
me the game unless you're drawing absolutely horribly. It just shouldn't.
So when they jump up to oh, I can place
a Greninja on my bench without anything underneath of it.

(46:58):
Then I put four energies underneath of it in one turn,
and there's zero problem doing either of those things. And
it's within seconds and seconds, and you play fifty fucking
cards in one turn. I love the combination of do
this and then do that and do this. It gives
you that like meta defining and availability to play the cards.
I love playing combo decks, but you're you're forcing everybody

(47:21):
out of the gameplay if you're making it so convoluted
in such crazy big numbers, because it's like, what is
two hundred damage? A lot is a lot, you know
what I'm saying. But in two thousand and four it was, yeah,
it was Charzard was the best card because it did
one hundred and twenty damage, but it was shit. It's weird.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Well, I mean also TCG is just like the mechanics
are so power craft that it's it just feels unacceptable
and you can't play anything except for the top three decks.
So the top three decks will have a bench full
of Pokemon like Evolve Pokemon turned one or two with
their bill It's like, oh, I flip a coin. If
I get heads, I just get three energy from my
deck onto my main pokemons like and then you get

(48:06):
to roll that four times on turn two. It's like,
that's not combo ing. That's not like when you think
of a combo deck, You're like, oh, I have the pieces,
I have the chest puzzle, and I have to carefully
construct this. Now. Pokemon is just like coin flip. My
pass have failed, I bricked gg if not, it's like
coin flip heads, I auto win because all my shit
just instantly automatically solves itself.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
And that's why I like playing duel links and master
duels so much. Was like, Okay, a combo deck is
I have to play this card. Then I play this
card and it becomes almost formulaic where you understand exactly
you're out to this problem, and it doesn't have to
be playing against that specific deck or a specific problem.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Also, that's another problem with Pokemon. It's not interacting with
your opponent, so you just do the same thing every time.
There's no disrupts. There's no interrupts. It doesn't matter what
your opponent's playing. I guess like if they have an ability,
it's like your ex can't do shit. But it's like
whatever you your turn is going to go the exact
same every time.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
The only interactiveness shouldn't be I shut your shit off.
There should be interactiveness with how quick I can draw
my cards, how quick I can have my out, how
quick I can be able to affect the game state,
not just I'm going to play this and play that,
then play this and play that game over.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
And they have also a lot of bullshit where it's
like Iono is one of the game winning cards. It's
like you draw based on how many prize cards you
have remaining. So it's like you have a you have
a hand of eight cards, you drop it all and
then your last cards IONO. You get five back. Your
opponent kits won. It's like, yeah, how did you play
the game? Congratulations? Pokemon's fun. I think that's what iono does.

(49:41):
But also there's an aspec called unfair Stamp, not even
supporter card. You just play it, you draw four or
discard your hand draw four, your pone draws two. You just.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
The way that I learned because I started watching the
TCG stuff. After I got back into a link of
Master Duel and stuff, I was like, oh, maybe Pokemon's
actually fun. Maybe I'll learn that every single card that
is in Pokemon, if you just reskin it and put
it in yu gi oh, or reskin it and put
it in fucking Magic, you're not broken that fucking card
is it breaks the entire fucking game, and every single

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card is at level.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, I was correct about I don't know. You shuffle
your hand and then each player draws for prize cards.
That's a supporter, so it's balanced.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Nah, I'm I'm so interested to see what Pocket actually does.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah. So, like if Pocket is fun and everyone plays
it because it's worth playing and it's competitive, so people
want to keep playing it.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Dude, just look at Master Dual. Master Duel is a
better version of MTG Arena. You could put money into it,
but everything if you play the game can be free,
which is how the game should be. Just make it
eighty percent a freemium game and make it some way.
If you pay, it's faster. That's all you have to do.
It's not fucking complex. Yeah, so I am thoroughly interested

(51:01):
to see She's already paid a win to begin with,
so it's not unfair. Yeah. But I was thoroughly surprised
with their fake out too. I thought that they were
going to put out more because Pokemon Go announcing a
Pokemon is going to Pokemon Go if anybody cares. I'm
thoroughly surprised. I don't there is a thousand Pokemon within

(51:24):
this world that they have. Why releasing one to five
of them is a big update? I don't understand. I
remember when they would drop full generations of Pokemon and
it'd be like, oh, go go hunt all of gen two. Yes,
let's go. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
I think starters and then a few and then everything. Yeah,
but it wasn't like this where it's just like, oh,
by the way, more Peko, that's your big Pokemon of
the month.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Form changes fucking cares. Who fucking cares.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
The Pokemon Go players apparently, because I Caond's still huge.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
I just I don't understand using Pokemon Go to catch
things to be able to play fucking online and shit
with Scarlet and Violet because I didn't play all of
the last three DS games is useful because now I
don't have to ask people for this Pokemon or that
Pokemon or whatever. But making it so with Pokemon Go

(52:20):
is that would be the smartest fucking thing for them,
making it away the version exclusive. You go on Pokemon
Go and you go and try and find them. That's
what most people I assume use it for instead of
buying two sixty dollars games. But no, everybody probably ponies
up and you know, spend one hundred and twenty dollars
a year.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
No one spent well, very few people do that though
people aren't buying two games. Can you get trade with
other people for a shit Pokemon?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Yeah? And that shit's all been broken since you know
Dread four when online was available. Oh it's either hacked,
it's broken, or you cannot search anything anyway, so good luck.
Shit's stupid. Just it's stupid. But the fact that they
faked everybody out with that shit is so fucking retarded.

(53:06):
It's so stupid.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Well, the thing that got me was like everyone's excitement,
like you have Ishijara big smile. His face looked like
he was like, Oh, you motherfuckers don't know what's coming.
You guys are going to be so happy from this announcement,
Like that's what his energy showed. And then he just
waved and then he waved again, and he was just gone.
And then they brought the hostess out and she she

(53:28):
was still like, and let's reflect on this wonderful worlds
where everyone's expectations were met and everything was great and
it was the biggest world's ever. It's like, how can
you put a smile on your face knowing you are
about to fuck over every single person in the Pokemon community, Like,
God damn, I hate everyone in TPCI.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
And it didn't come across like there wasn't more to come.
They seem they seemed so much like everything's about to explode, guys.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, Nintendo always does the one more thing? Where was that?

Speaker 1 (54:02):
And at midnight, like at midnight Eastern time, which genuinely,
how many people are gonna be watching how many people
give enough of a fuck about worlds that they're gonna
be watching at midnight? Yeah, now's your time to do
the fucking viral thing. Do it. It'll fucking blow.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
And that's the only reason why people are there.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Yeah, they had their chance, and they fucking floundered. It,
and you don't hear fucking Nintendo floundering too much. Normally
they're they're the one that's on top of shit, but no,
and they foundered it.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yeah. Also, fuck what was I thinking about on that? Uh? Nintendo?
I say they do flounder sometimes, and just like leaving
things on table where it's like I say, Nintendo's allergic
to money, Pokemon Company is allergic to money. You just
localize Pokemon Quest update, like the Chinese only version, make
Pokemon Quest two fifty million dollars cash right there, just

(54:59):
for some translation. Why don't they do it? I don't know.
That's the kind of stuff that like bothers me where
it's like it could be so simple, or you don't
even have to like you need to show gameplay since
we have nothing like Pokemon Legends Arsia has had gameplay
on was revealed in February and then released almost exactly
a year later. So it's not like, oh, Pokemon Legends
ZA is getting delayed because they need to take their time.

(55:20):
The game's gonna be better. It's like you have to
have something. You can give us some mega evolution teas
or like you just show an outline and then the
mega symbol and then everyone's like they didn't even give
us any comfort, any reassurance as to the most non
information they could have given about the game, like and
the slightest acknowledgement.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Even if it is a switch to launch title, and
I know that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
You have something to show.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Now there is something that you could show and tease
that doesn't give that away.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Yeah, because we saw it with Breadth the Wild, Like
Breadth of the Wild was not only from Nintendo Switch
the we you it's still yeah, what's happening? I hate everything?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
No, and I completely agree, And that's the shitty part
is like, guys, there's something here, and the cynical part
of me, I'm excited and I've told you this. I
know you're not, but I'm like, guys, I want to
see it. I just want to see it, Like I
want to know if I'm going to enjoy this or not.
And I know it's fucking far away. I'm probably not

(56:20):
even gonna have the availability to play it yet, but
I want to be able to be excited, like you
know how excited and hype hyped I got for hgum
cause it's like my nostalgia of my favorite Call of
Duty being able to be played again. I'm like yes,
and then it's like no, you fucking took it. And
then it was available again and I was like yes.

(56:40):
It's like Pokemon You're not You're not giving the availability
to be excited about it. I know you like Pokemon Unite.
I don't. I don't see any positive that, you know
what I'm saying, Like I could see where people would
be excited. There's change. There's more change in that than
Pokemon Go.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
That's what baffles me. It's like the Pokemon Mobile was
the only thing people wanted in twenty thirteen, when like
League of Legends was the biggest thing ever, and then
Pokemon Moba came out and no one wanted to even
give it a try.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
I've never even played a Moba, so I couldn't tell
you and Billy, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
But that's why Pokemon I was supposed to be. It's
like I've never played a mobi, but now there's a
Pokemon Mobi, so I'm going to get into this. No
one cared.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
No, and that's like the level of those announcements, them
finally saying hey guys, we have a date for Pocket,
we have the availability for Pocket, to go live at
this point. That was fucking huge. I like the fact
that they did that. They finally gave us something that
was the biggest announcement out of all of it. Is

(57:42):
when Pocket is launching and.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
We already knew about Pocket and ninety percent of the gameplay.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Yeah, guys, that's not that's not a huge announcement. It's
just not. And I know you were saying, oh, well,
the leaks showed this, this and this. No, we still
should have had more excitement towards it then because we
knew it was coming, it was verified. Then I verify
some weeks verifies the entire situation. No, this is weird
because they're like, oh, huge announcement. Nope, just Pocket Pocket

(58:10):
and you get three Pokemon and fucking unite and you
get one Pokemon. Go, Where the fuck is that a
huge announcement.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yeah. Also, like for Dynamas, doesn't make sense because like
everyone knows that's Dynamax, So like you could just say
Dynamax is coming and show a Dynamax battle. It's already
been data mined. That was the same thing for all
the TCG announcements, because like, oh, Trainer Pokemon are back.
It's like yeah, merchandise logs have shown that for the
last three months, like that's already a confirmed set internally.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
And even if they're like, okay, marketing mice, we have
to leave there to be a question. We have to
leave there to be a want for more information. We're
doing it with this show. The titles are a question
of some kind or alluding to something within the episodes.
That way people watch it. That's how it's supposed to
work as a whole. You you're giving them the answer.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
That yeah, there's no question to a purple cloud.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
No information gap, there's nothing available there. And it's just like, guys,
that's not how you do this. You guys should know
this better than I do. You should everybody should know this.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I knew. Did they even put like a question mark
like something new was coming? And it's like, no, No,
I thought I thought they said some kind of bstser
where it's like, but there's no question here. The answer
is the cloud.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
And are we going to are we having a movie
crossover with Twisters? No, you're not fucking having a movie
crossover with Twisters. That's the only answer.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Forms Mega Evolution, that's actually going to be a reveal
for Za.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
That would have been funny, that would have been cool.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Yeah, like if a new mega Pokemon came out of
that cloud, like, Oh, that's how you get people excited
about your game.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
That's what they should have done. In all honesty, Pokemon Za,
let us be your fucking foundation for how you do things.
You should have and you should use Pokemon Go as
a way to showcase a fucking mega Pokemon that will
be released in Pokemon Za before Pokemon ZA is even

(01:00:10):
showing it off. Show it and have it in Pokemon
Go first. Mega Flygon should be released next month in
in Pokemon Go and have the next six seven months
worth of Oh another month, here's another month, here's another mega,
here's another forum change. You have four games that you

(01:00:30):
could showcase. He sings in, showcase them because you don't
worry about fucking balancing your game anyway, What the fuck
is your problem? Just do it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yeah, can stn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
But if they did that, tell me how crazy everybody
would fucking be. They would be so fucking hype for
the next Pokemon Go launch. That is why one Pokemon
would matter a more Pico, a fucking Pokemon, a Pikachi
rip off, Fuck no, No.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
That's all you have to do. That's all you have
to show for worlds your largest event is then they
show more Pico. It doesn't make sense. Like bring us
back to twenty thirteen, twenty sixteen, where it's like that
reveal fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Mattered Pokemon Go in this launch should have been and
you can catch the three new starters from Pokemon Za
tomorrow and you can see what the new starters are.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
There's not new starters, but yeah, what what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
They do retypings or even if they do retypings, Oh,
you have to find the new versions of them. They
should I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
I think starters can't be teased outside of the game,
but I know where you're coming from where it's like, uh,
bring a callos form where it's just like, why does
this Pokemon look different? Don't even say it's a callus form.
Just show a new looking thing and be like, oh
is that an event? Is that a Pokemon Go exclusive?
And then like wait a second, that's a callus form Forza?

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Well, well they did that with Meltan. Why are we
still failing at doing things that you've already done? Guys?
You guys should be moving forward legit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
I thought that that was a ditto form Melton when
like that was like the speculation, like this thing ain't
ain't its own thing, Give.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
It a metal coat and see if it evolves. It's stupid.
It's stupid that they are not able to execute on
the level that me and you could.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Why why How does the marketing seem that incompetent.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
It's sad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
But you can't give it to like some four Chan
fake leaker idiot, because then they'll just turn Pokemon into
a fan fix series. So there is a there is
a line to walk between, like, oh, this is a
good idea, and this idea ruins the series if you
even implement it once.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Fan service is not the way to win over the fans.
Hearts he's fan service, and you will win everybody. I
watched Mike Tyson's interview with Logan Paul and he said
something and it really made a lot of fucking sense
to me and kind of made me feel somewhat. Okay, guys,

(01:02:58):
being loved is great, but guess what, at the second
that they don't love you anymore, they no longer give
a fuck. But if they hate you, they will love
you forever. Because if you deliver on that hate, or
you deliver on the thing that they don't want you
to do, and that's why they hate you. They will
always care about anything you'd do. I'm like, yep, and

(01:03:19):
I thought about it. I was like, you sit here
and get complained about by so many fucking people. You
get hated on for dumb, fucking retards.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
I'll say I'm irrelevant too, which is weird. No one
cares well, you clearly care a lot exactly me, your
entire life. Well the way to go.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
And I've said this to a couple of them that
I've commented on here. If you do not care about him,
then why are you commenting, Oh I want people to
know he's a bad person. No, you are a bad
person for wanting to silence other people. You are the
bad person. You are the shitty person. What the fuck
are we grabbing here? What are you trying to make

(01:03:58):
sense of? You're not making sense.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Also, like that also shows like fear like you're that
scared of me, where you like hump me down in
other videos and other things to try to warn people
about me, but you don't care. No one cares about me.
I mean. And also if I'm irrelevant, Then why do
you even need to tell people I'm bad? If I'm irrelevant,
I don't matter exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
If we're irrelevant, if we have no availability, then we
wouldn't be working with the people and the companies that
we do. What the fuck are you talking about? Oh,
I'm irrelevant, Yep, It's okay, dude, don't worry about it.
I'm shit at my job. I absolutely get no praise.
I'm not told that I'm at a level that most
people don't understand. You don't understand. Are there things that
I might not fully grasp apps? A fuso lutely? Are

(01:04:40):
there things like new ideas and stuff that if I
just go by my feelings and everything else, that might
not be executed in the way that I want apps?
Fucking lutely? Ask rulis how many different intros that I
sent him to be like this one question mark when
I was coming up with like a little graphic intro
to wait to go from the intro moment into the episode,

(01:05:01):
I sent him like five or six, being like, give
me information on what you think just that way we
could kind of break something down and have a genuine
idea of what you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Should add and those suck too.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Some of them were funny, but it's like, okay, a
minutes way too long. I understand, Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
What I mean. We're just like, bro, the music cut
goes on for thirty seven seconds. You can't this intro
is a minute long.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
We lost everyone, Like without an intro moment, I could
see where it actual intro like a show works. I
could see where that works. But if you're doing an
intro moment and then an intro, yeah, you didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Make a customized anime intro of like no crazy shit,
so now gotta be ten seconds nax exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
And I think I think it works with what with
what we got now and we're seeing growth and fucking
watch time too, so obviously it's doing something. It's doing
the right things. It's interesting. So you want to know
what I don't fucking understand. And I don't know if
this is a tism thing or just being stupid or
just being really fucking weird. What the fuck is up

(01:06:04):
with all these you tubers And why the fuck do
all of them have millions of subscribers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
They're like years late, like the v tubers are blowing
up before covid made everything free for content.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
I never said that. I understand that I'm late, but
I remember when Kitty Kyle's old manager started using a
VTuber icon. I was like, that's fucking weird. And then
the shit happened with them changing them to all being
naked while on Twitch and stuff like that, and I
thought that was weird and I didn't really give it

(01:06:36):
much thought. And then I woke up this morning and
I normally let YouTube AutoPlay and I play some weird
ass shit because I end up watching shit myself, My
girlfriend watches shit, the baby watches shit. I use my
account for everything because it's so much easier than having
three different accounts for three different things. So randomly started

(01:06:56):
playing a vtuber's like ranking of all Mario Kart tracks.
It's like, okay, that's cool. This dude's using you know,
the crab from fucking Milana that things that he's so shiny.
He used six different pictures of that crab to use
him talking. I'm like, how the fuck is this available

(01:07:18):
when we have things being taken down for like reusing
game assets.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Well, I mean it's not even the copyright that gets me.
It's just like how low quality it is, even like
an animated one that's doing all the weird NPC shit.
It's like, but why would any person care to watch
that content? Like, Okay, the content's mid, the commentary's mid
and all you're doing is having a program auto run
something that has bad voice synchronization? Why is that a

(01:07:42):
thing that's what gets me most about? Like? This does
nothing for the content, This doesn't make And I guess
there's like some when it comes to freaks and weirdos
that are like the internet, like when your brain has
rotted from social media, that is the only thing left
is that like you, somehow can parasocially relate to that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Is it somebody who so disconnected from everything but want
something common, level headed enough that's not like us bouncing
around the fucking screen and talking like you? I actually think.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
It's like, yeah, it might actually just be that tens
of millions of people are so antisocial they can't look
at a human anymore. And also because zoomers have like
the most brain rot, they need some kind of stimulations.
They can't just look at a picture or an animation.
It has to be a humanoid looking thing fake engaging
with them because they have no sense of self left.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
And that's what somehow talk like the call of duty videos,
remember back in the day where they were no facecam,
no nothing like even even Mail Monday there is no facecam.
It would just randomly pop up with the note and
then you read.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
That's my content philosophy is like the contents, all that matters.
It doesn't matter if there's a facecam, it doesn't matter,
if there's some zoomer animations going on, doesn't change the
quality at all. And if you are bored by it,
then you need some fucking help, my dude.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
And that's content wise. That's why the shitty answer of
the thumbnail is the only thing that matters. There's not
anything inside the inside the video. You could edit your
ass off and make a Steven Spielberg movie. If you
have zero people clicking it, nobody fucking cares.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Yeah, and especially with the modern YouTube algorithm that prioritizes
watch tip or yeah, prioritizes watch time over click through,
but click through like you no, it's clicking, then you're
in trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Yeah, if you have zero click through when you're getting
five views a day, but.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
All five of those views watched one percent of a
twenty hour video it's like, cool, you're not anymore yet
because now now that video gets promoted, but one percent
of people are clicking on your city thumbnew YouTube's broken.
Everything's broken, And then somehow YouTubers are getting an egregious
amount of audience share.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
This dude and nothing against him, because obviously I would assume.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Now all to me is a cringe dog shit creators.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
All of them, if you're right with their burnout of
not being able to be human and seeing something and
it just being like people that are anti social or autistic,
not being able to put their face on camera or
feel social awkward. I understand, I can. I can grasp
it enough to understand. But how do you have three

(01:10:09):
million subs? How do you have two million subs? I
don't understand how when people want human interaction, that's what
most people go to YouTube for. They want a person
on the other side because it's like the celebrity that
they actually can come in contact with. That's how most
people see it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
No, that's not how most people see it. That's like
people know, most people aren't here for the part of
social aspect of YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
I'm saying the people that if they look at it
as these are the people that I consume their content.
You're more likely to get in contact with a YouTuber,
So I don't understand why they wouldn't find the base
of okay, I want person and I assume the answers
like autism or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
And that's not a majority of users or use cases
or anything like that, but there is a significant out
that believe that. Sure, but it's not why people use YouTube,
and also YouTube when they change everything around sports, like
most of the news channels are now what gets put
to the front page, or people aren't watching Actually people
are watching mister V's video thinking they're going to get
in but uh but no one's like watching the YouTube

(01:11:15):
video of a CNN host and going I want to
talk to them. They're here for the news, they're here
for the content, they're here for the three hour Uh fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
I'm sure that a lot of people will be like, oh,
that's not mister Bee, said Jimmy from North Carolina. I
know where he grew up. I knew this. I knew
that I knew this. How how does that translate? When
you're watching a YouTuber and this dude has zero availability
to be a human. They're the fucking crab from Molana
making jokes about how much of a child they are.

(01:11:50):
I don't I don't understand the questions.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Also, why couple violations like need to be enforced. That's
what's ruining YouTube, is not like stopping the child targeting
content as legally dick. Also, video essay, that's it. I
don't watch a video essayist and then like have a
connection to them. I just want three hour bullshit to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
You want the content, Yeah, exactly, And I understand that.
That's why I'm saying, like there's different parts of the content.
But these YouTubers, it's and you just said kids and
it kind of clicked. It seems like they are trying
to target those kids to click into the video because
once they click, they're not going to click. And it's
like mommy, click that one. And then all of a
sudden they had millions of views and millions of subscribers

(01:12:28):
because kids just click them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Also, no one's growing up. All these teenagers and the
zoomers on TikTok, they're going to their twenties just as
undeveloped as a child, and they still find youtubing entertaining.
But now they have money to throw out the YouTuber.
It's all fucked.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
I don't know, and I know that this isn't a
new thing. I understand, but I don't. I don't grasp
why it's able to be anything like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Because you are socially adjusted.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
It's weird, it really is, because I'm like, I'm so
willing to be like I'm the autistic one. I'm the
one that has something wrong with me. I understand, explain it,
and I'm like, no, I still don't grasp it. I
still don't understand. Regardless of how much you explain it,
still don't get it. I don't know. Maybe I'm the
one with the tism and don't grasp it, but I

(01:13:15):
don't fucking understand. I just don't. Oh, I don't want
to put my camera on. Okay, so then why are
you making a YouTube video? Then if it's not you you're selling,
and it's not your content you're selling, then don't like
I could assume, and this is me assuming your content

(01:13:36):
that you put your little logo on the fox or
wolf that's that's jumping with his hand up. Those videos
may or may not do as good as the last ones.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
They might know because of the dislike botting and shadow banning.
And I don't, like I said, I personally think that
a facecam or a YouTuber or anything like that like
doesn't do anything well facecam cam for reaction, but like
it isn't necessary to content. The content is what's being
talked about and covered. If I'm doing random pokemon news,

(01:14:08):
news is the news. If I'm doing a god like actually, yeah,
a god A guide doesn't need me my face in
the corner.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
That I agree. I agree, Like even if you look
at the Call of Duty ones from Drifter or something
like that, it's face canless. That absolutely makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Yeah, so that's why that's where I'm at on that.
But yeah, late to vtubing, God, damn no.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
I'm late to a lot of things, Like I don't
understand why a lot of things that have grown in
popularity are the way that they are. And I don't
know if that's you know, when we looked at our
parents and the adults around us, Oh, you're just not
with the times. I don't understand why anime is grown
I don't Is it because we haven't grown up? So
everybody that was watching the content that we grew up

(01:14:54):
with kind of just pulled back and just kept watching
the same stuff, so they found new things.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
I mean, it makes a lot more sense though, because
like all those jen xers grew up on Saturday morning
cartoons with their like fucking action heroes, and that's just
Japanese and looks a little different.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Oh absolutely, I'm not saying that it's the same level
of I don't understand betubing, But at the same time,
it's like there's a lot of things that I don't
fully grasp. So it's like, Okay, is it is it
this level where I don't grasp it at all, or
is it a level where I'm just like, okay, I'm
out of touch. And like I was having a talk
with my son and he's starting to get to that

(01:15:31):
level where he's just all memes all the time, and
I'm like, you need to have something of substance come
out of your mouth. You need to be able to
explain what the fuck you're trying to say, because you
telling me something is ohio and skibbity toilet. I have
no fucking idea what the fuck you're saying. So if
you cannot explain me, I was like, if you can't

(01:15:51):
explain something to me or you can't explain what it means,
you can't say it. I'd rather you use old slagh,
the news slang if you can actually fucking explain what
it means.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
I mean, like even the nineties slang made infinitely more sense.
You call something bogus, and it's like you can pick
up on the word, like where that word is trying to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Go exactly, Like when we had woody on. I had
a game that I started planning for and it was
explain these zoomer words, and I was gonna see which
one of you guys got more of them. It's just
like one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
I mean, most of them are just nonsense for the
safe sake of being nonsense. Litt is the only good one,
because like, oh that's fire, that's good, that's hot.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
It's like, okay, MPC makes sense, Yeah, I understand. What
the fuck is a yat? What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
I google this it stuff? It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
It means ass. But it seems like when they use
it in context of a sentence they're talking about like
you know, when you see a pussy and the hips
go up, it seems like you're talking about that. No,
they're not fucking talking about that. They're talking about as still,
what the fuck are you talking about? It doesn't make
sense because it's vague enough to the point where it
just doesn't fucking I.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Mean, I think it's a perfect encapsulation of how much
brain rot these younger generations have from social media, where
like it it's just complete, it's actual gibberish, and not
even they know what they mean. They just hear some
people say it, and then they just repeat.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
It, and they're throwing words together that absolutely don't flow
and make a sentence. You're like literally say, ohio drip.
I'm like, what the fuck did you just say? Because
even looking at the definitions of those phrases, that's not a.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
S They actually do not have definitions like that is
just the fact of it. It's just gibberish and buzzwords.
And by saying that you are just like showing that
you're you are that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
That's like it's a feeling, it's cool the bomb drip,
Oh that's lit. Yeah, what the fuck does that? What
the fuck would that have meant?

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
In the early the energy of the what those words
you said means, it's like, oh, now I have an
idea of your emotional state. Instead of your literate state.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
And it's just like it's making me sound like a dope.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
So I'm busting on this SCIBITTI for real, you have
an idea of how I'm feeling about it, but it
didn't mean anything.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
I have no fucking idea what the fuck you meant
at all? So here's a crazy fucking thing. Gen Z
are now starting to go into the workforce and stuff
like that. What percentage of those gen Z people that
go into a job interview do you feel bring their
parents along to the job interview as a way to

(01:18:27):
sell them sixty five fucking percent.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
That kind of goes back to, like the food ordering anxiety.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
What the fuck are we doing with these people? What
the fuck is going on? Because I genuinely don't understand,
Like I remember, like when you go into a job interview,
it's sell yourself the best you can, or if it's
just a normal job, don't even worry about selling yourself
because that doesn't fucking matter. If you're going to work
at big box store. Big box store doesn't care. That's

(01:19:04):
a human in front of you. Become a human, make
the person connect and sell yourself in that way, selling
yourself as a whole to a huge company isn't fucking valuable.
You're not gonna you're not gonna win any Branny points.
But if it's a one to one or like a huge,
like a medium sized company that somebody grew, you could

(01:19:24):
sell yourself and actually make yourself something. I just fucking
connected with people. Why is that so hard for people
to fucking do?

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Because no one's connecting or socializing, And as I said,
they're all underdeveloped. Like these are twenty year old actual children,
the same level of intelligence, same level of socialization as
an actual child, which is why they need to have
other people order for them, and they need to hold
like they need their parents holding their hand during a
job interview, like physically actually there, which is insane. But
we've also been seeing this cobbling forever, and like the

(01:19:52):
universities and stuff. Millennials are fucked up because they got
baby through what is supposed to be a challenging educational time.
They just got all their free shit and then they yeah,
like the the college became their parents, and now they're indoctrinated.
Great now it's even happening younger and for dumber reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Yeah, and it's just becoming more and more fucked up.
They're allowed to say more and more exaggerated things, and
it's like, guys, this isn't the way, this isn't the way.
It makes zero fucking sense. So did you hear about
the crazy Olympics shit that's gone on and not like
shit that happened during the Olympics, but like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
No I saw on topic. I haven't heard anything about
this topic.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Okay, so first off, nobody gives a fuck about the
Olympics anymore. Let's just let's just state that there's funny
stories that come out of it, like the Breakdancer, but
that shit's been done.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
So that's also what it's like, Oh yeah, this gives
me less reason to watch anything. Olympics. After the opening
ceremony was just like, oh, here's my big thing on
the world.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
What it's woke woke, woke, woke woke.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Yeah, whoa. But also here's my thing, like here's a
big thing I saw where it's like, yeah, this is
just the truth. And I think everyone needs to be
reminded when someone tells you what they are, believe them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
It's not like it's not like, oh, we're playing a
joke on all these conservatives on the largest sports event
in the world. By we're just pretending to be Satanists.
We're just pretending to shit on your values because it
gives your roots. Like, no, they're doing exactly what their
goals are. All those conspiracy theories about whatever the globalists
are up to and whatever they're trying to do to
destroy Western values. They have shown that on display at

(01:21:28):
the Oscars or whatever award ceremony at the Olympics, at
all these major televised events, when they keep everything's coated
and red, everything is a sacrificial something or an an
an alleged that fucking an analogy for Yeah, I wanted
to say allegory, but like it's all representative instead of
like actually like taking a live sheep and stabbing it

(01:21:50):
and then like showing that to everyone. They do something
similar to that. There's always a few.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Who is flashing his balls and dick in the fucking
opening ceremonies. Yeah, and it was shown on live cable TV.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
What are you that's also like, yeah, oh, the whole
Pride thing isn't about, you know, sexuality, even though that's
like the entire Yeah, that's what it was. Four for
four fourteen is all about sexual pride in liberation, but
now it's not. And then someone sneaks in a little
bit of sexual liberation. That's not happening. They coat everything

(01:22:25):
in red and then they have satanic upside down imagery
and shit on fire. So that's not satanic. There's just
crazy conspiracy theorist and we like giving you a ruse.
It's like, no, and someone tells you what they are,
believe them. It's the narcissism of their beliefs. They can't
not tell someone, you know. That's how that's how some
people get caught when they're just like I got I
got some stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
Yeah, and this story absolutely shows exactly what the fuck
the world seesus as. So I guess in Paris there
is still a pick pocketing problem, which as an American,
I don't really see this as a big issue, as
happens everywhere kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
I've been hearing that forever decades. Yeah, where it's like
you gotta watch out because they got all these weird
little tricks. You know, someone drops something in front of you,
don't pick it up because they got a guy behind
you ready to grab your wallet.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Like you hear all those Disney movies and stuff, you like, oh,
pickpocketers happen blah blahlah blah blah, or they're the bad
guy in the movie, or they're the sympathetic person. Like
you think that that's just movie shit and that could
just be my retardation. But so France thought that we
were going to be the gullible ones with from the

(01:23:35):
pickpocketer's perspective, we were going to be bringing lots of
money over there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Yeah, like all these stupid Americans easy target.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
The thieves were starting to complain about how brutalized and
affected that they were actually being. They were being punched
and hit and everything else because they thought it was funny.
They keep trying to reach in people's pockets and take shit.
So they're like, Okay, guys, the Olympics is over. It's

(01:24:04):
going to be better. Now, let's start going back to
our job, because this is their job to steal money from.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
You, yeah, tourists.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Yeah, And Americans were like, Okay, we're going to stay
later and we're going to do some social experiments because
our entire life's on YouTube now, guys, which is why
I think, you know, there's that level of non anonymity
which brings people to YouTube. Guess I'm wrong, but they
bought fake Louis Vuitton bags and purses and had them

(01:24:36):
shipped there and we're staying there like a week or
two after the Olympics, and they started shitting in them,
and I guess one of the people that they had
with them was like a manufacturer of some kind and
caused it to when it was unzipped, it with a
fire on the ship that they put in the in
the bottom of the bag, so you open the bag

(01:24:57):
catches fire, just like the old classical I'm gonna shit
in a paper bag, light it on fire, ring your
doorbell and run away. Shit. So they were going into
Paris with fucking shit bags that would light on fire
whenever somebody took it and opened it up to look
to see if there is money. And all of this
is on film, I guess. So now there is thieves

(01:25:22):
that are opening up fucking fake Leveton bags and having
fiery shit explode into their face as they open them
up to look to see if there's money in them,
as like old school classic pranks from like pre YouTube days.
You can't do this shit on YouTube anymore, and it
be real. This is real because these retards have no
idea what the fucking normal life is and they're just

(01:25:44):
opening up these bags that people are purchasing to have
explode in their face. I'm just like, what the fuck
is this? Thieves are being hurt and people are feeling
bad about it? Why what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
From what might take on like Europe, It's just it's
just lost over there, Like actual criminals are the ones
getting defended, and the people that are trying to stop
the criminals are the ones getting punished more and more
because that's getting in the way of the societal disruption
that that are going for.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Not only is it backwards, it seems like they're behind,
and for so long we were. We've been told since
like Obama's era, that we were behind and so many things,
and it's like we're still not behind in logic somehow,
and I'm really kind of confused by it. We would
have picked up on the shit bag like when it's stunk,

(01:26:36):
and yet these motherfuckers are picking it up, opening it,
you know, having to stop shit everywhere. Just it doesn't
make sense. Yeah, it doesn't make sense that we were
told we were so far behind. In literacy and intelligence
that you know, these Parisians are falling for this shit.
It's just so logical at some point m hm.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Also, just when you hear it's like, oh, all these
crime rates are going up, but you're not allowed to
talking about the crime rates. So you go to jail
and the person that like SA a twelve year old
is the one that gets six months because they don't
know any better. It's like, wow, do you understand now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
That pdf that was in the Olympics, he was an Olympian.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Oh I remember that story.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Yeah, they had him signing children's shirts, Like what the fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Are you do? They let him in. It's it's like
it's a deliberate destruction of their society. And then they're
the ones saying we're behind Like, yeah, what you guys
are doing ain't progressive. Well you can keep that, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
At some point in the vague undertones treat everybody as
a human, I could understand. But they once again are
not showing they're human. They're showing that they're a fucking
negative part of society. Stop giving them validation, and oh,
let's just keep validating them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
They don't know any better. They made a mistake see
that's that's the true ascendency to show you have the
ultimate humanity? Is that much compassion for scom.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Like the big thing right now? And I don't know
if you saw this. They're they're saying that Trump might
come out and say that he wants the death penalty
for PDFs and essays, and it's just like awesome, How
do we fix the void of all of these people
that are being falsely accused though, because this could get

(01:28:26):
really gross, really fucking quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Well, usually like death penal needs like absolute like there
is no other way even with AI, like to a degree,
there's only so many alibis or so far that can
go where it's like you were on camera doing that
or your genetic material is there, like can't can't completely
AI everything about the story. People, people still get caught.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Well, we saw the witch hunt of this shit literally
happened this month. Did you hear about the mister t
Lexifi shit?

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
Okay, So mister t Lexifi is a Call of Duty
Zombies YouTuber and he was dating this girl Reagan that
I guess was a fan at first and told him
obscene things that she did when she was underage, and
then they ended up getting together when she was about eighteen,
and then they were in a relationship for two years
or so. She came out saying that he groomed her,

(01:29:24):
and everything else was zero proof, just just the story,
like this happened, this happened, that happened.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Since we were dating when I was around eighteen, I
was obviously groomed. That's all the evidence.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
And she and she fucked a fifteen year seventeen year
old at twenty four. He's like, she is a PDF,
not me. I did not want any of this, and
yet she made everything race baiting into daddy this or
daddy that. I was like, holy shit, And I watched

(01:29:59):
the full break on it and he has text message
receipts for every single fucking problem she brought up, and like,
holy shit. The validity that some people are going through
to destroy some people's lives is crazy. And the fact
that so many of these people now are losing is

(01:30:21):
really interesting because right now we're seeing Rakaida when at
every single level he has now gotten his kids back.
Congrats Nick, because that's fucking huge. He's beating his case.
And the dude that he was cooking with the other
chick that was there is like been put on blast
where he cannot speak about the entire case because he's

(01:30:44):
speaking too negatively about it and showing that he's sour.
Like that's a win, mister t Lexfi coming out and
proving everything that his ex said is wrong and that
she's gaslighting entire fan base is to fire or kick
him is insane. How do you win in these things?

(01:31:07):
Because back in the day, we used to not be
able to. Back in the day, you say one weird
thing and all of a sudden, you're under fire. It
gives me a lot of hope because I know that
everything I'm dealing with right now, and this is why
I gave myself a week to kind of calm down
and relax. And I'm saying this the day before what

(01:31:31):
was supposed to be my fifteenth anniversary with my ex wife.
Tomorrow is fifteen years that we were supposed to be together,
and my disagreement with our divorce goes live tomorrow on
the fifteenth anniversary of our divorce. Knowing that she has

(01:31:51):
borderline personality disorder and absolutely destroys everything she fucking touches.
I am a social fucking person now. I am on
social media for my job. At any point in time,
she can say whatever the fuck she wants, and if
I don't have receipts for it, it's a fucking big
blow up. It's like, this is hell. This is hell

(01:32:14):
because these people, these fucking so so sick people. It
is so hard to just look at all these people
that are so sick and so distraught, because they will
destroy your entire fucking life if you let them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Yeah, and that's just that's just like how the core
of evil has gone or almost forever, but you can
feel it more recently, probably because like it's just more
publicized on social media through the existence were accountability. No
one wants to take it, so it's easier just take
someone else down and then you preserve everything.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
So in family court, ninety five percent of the time,
I assume that there's probably some positive times, but ninety
five percent of the time, the children are given to
the mother without question. If the mother says something, it's accepted.
They they hold custody. They're given custody first, and even
if you prove them wrong, it doesn't resort back to okay,

(01:33:10):
now this is a question, it's just oh yeah, well
they're they're they're already given it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
I got, I've I've heard some crazy shit growing up
with like friends of family, where like the kids are begging, no,
mom is crazy, please give us dad, like don't even
like let her ever see us again. And it's like
full custody to the mom. That's happened in my circles.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
It happened two years ago to my kids I had.
And I can't speak about all of this. We're gonna
have some fun in like six months. We're gonna blow
up everybody's fucking minds. But I'll lean into a little
little bit. About three years ago we went into being separated,

(01:33:50):
I found a whole bunch of shit, and I took
care of all three kids by myself without problems. I
started pKa, I started growing show. I did a lot
of things with very very very little time, energy or effort.
That's why I say, you know, you guys have seen
me in my three worst years of my life, and

(01:34:12):
I'm not being negative about it. I'm saying, let's go,
let's let's keep going, because I know that this can work.
I know that this can happen. Just because you guys
are seeing a problem isn't because I'm not caring. It's
because I'm burnt the fuck out. I had them for
two full years by myself, no help. Nobody came and
helped me put the baby to bed before I started streaming.

(01:34:34):
I did it all. I was up every single time
that baby was up, every three hours. I streamed them.
Between those times. My wife decided to message my daughter, Oh,
I'm gonna take you. This is what I need you
to say to CPS and the lawyers and everything. And

(01:34:55):
I had it in writing. What they did. They removed
me out of the picture and said I needed to
prove myself that I wasn't being abusive when I wasn't.
I was granted all full rights back fifty to fifty.
I just wasn't given the custody that I had before.
Do I know it's crazy. If I was a woman,
those kids would have been handed back to me and

(01:35:15):
it would have resorted back to one hundred percent me
because it would have been found a lie like it was.
I was giving back fifty to fifty. I was given
back availability to see my kids when I had to
prove myself. I prove myself, I'm not giving back the
same rights. It's fucking crazy. So It's scary because it's like,

(01:35:37):
at any time I could lose fuck it everything, because
you know I'm not given the same respect. It's crazy
to see that there are people now and things going
on now where that level of respect is now being demanded.
We're seeing it live, We're seeing it in living color
of No, this is going to happen. I have over

(01:35:57):
eight hundred text messages and pictures of shit that has
gone on in my relationship that I will just release
and if I need it, if I need to be protected,
I have everything to protect me. I have three years
of stories that are not in that story list. How
many times have I told you I haven't talked about

(01:36:18):
anything that's happened, and this is the lady.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
You also are like, can't talk about it? That's next topic.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Yeah, No, I'll touch on it. I'll give an update,
I'll give an availability, but I won't go into crazy
levels of shit. But the shitty part about this is
is and this case is closed, so I guess I
can talk about this one. There was pending sexual abuse
charges on my wife's boyfriend. They gave me my oldest

(01:36:47):
daughter full custody without question. They let me speak for
her in court saying what she told me and what
was going on. But they didn't want to deal with
the question of the other kids because my wife intimidated
my son in order not to say something, because that's
the easier way to go about it. The way. People

(01:37:09):
aren't upset, motherfucker. It doesn't matter if they're upset, It
doesn't matter. My baby is literally screaming now not to
leave my four year old. My four year old doesn't
want to leave her dad because something is wrong. Babies
don't scream, they don't want to leave. Babies don't do that.

(01:37:32):
And that's where it gets crazy because a week ago
I got told this. Your girlfriend posted something negative about
your about mommy dad. How are you going to handle it?
What are you talking about that? First off, that's fucking stalking.

(01:37:54):
That's fucking crazy. If if you're not on my Facebook,
why the fuck are you looking at it? Let alone
somebody who's not a part of the fucking situation. You're
just trying to harm a relationship that it's not yours, Sawai.
You're not replaced, Sawa. You don't feel replaced, And that
to me is so fucking sickening. It's so fucking ridiculous.

(01:38:19):
That shouldn't be a fucking problem when nothing was fucking posted.
Nothing was posted for three and a half weeks other
than something else. I can't talk about nothing zero. I looked, Oh, harassment,
What the fuck are you talking about? You're just saying
things to a kid who doesn't fucking understand some way

(01:38:41):
you can control the way they feel.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
The weird thing is like, that's also now what kids
are considering where it's just like they are brought into
that and that's like the social media world where it's like, oh,
someone said something like this on social media. It's like, wait,
how young are you? And why the fuck do you
know that this is how it works? And it's bullshit.
It's like, huh, that's that's how it goes now.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
No, And it sucks. It sucks because I'm the man,
so I'm told to shut up and whatever's done out
of my house doesn't fucking matter. Where the fuck is
that equal? Where is that any bit logical? So one
parent can say whatever the fuck they want. The other

(01:39:28):
parent has proof and negativity towards everything that's going on,
but yet they are the negative one. It's like, what
the fuck's going on? This isn't equal. This isn't how
things work, This isn't how it goes. I don't understand.
I genuinely don't.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
That's my YouTube where it's like this person is cheating,
You're the evil, bad actor, negative, always pessimistic, one, toxic, verlisify.
It's like, that's just the facts of what's happening. My
bad for saying it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
I don't know. It's it's frustrating. It's frustrating because like
I just want to blow up, and it's like, Okay,
everybody can run around throw a hissy fit and stomp
their feet and whine and cry about everything. But because
I've been calm, level headed and acceptable in the situation,

(01:40:20):
guess what is my standard of what I have to
be Always? I'm not allowed to blow up. I'm not
allowed to lose my shit because if I do, it's unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
That's a crazy thing, like how much room other people
are given to screw up and you're not allowed to
screw up once Ever.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
It's not even screw up. It's not even screw up.
So when when we went back to court after I
was giving full custody in my daughter, I told my son, hey,
on the on the court documentation. It says my name,
your name, and my oldest daughter's name. It says we
are summoned to court. I don't want you to be
caught off guard when it says that you have to

(01:40:58):
be there, or you to feel like you need to
be anxious about this. But the paperwork says your name
as well. I don't know if you're going to be
called in. I don't know if you have to be there,
but I want to let you know being transparent with
my kid, Hey, but you might be questioned. You might
be asked what's going on? Not telling you what to say,

(01:41:19):
telling you that the question might be asked. My wife said, well,
he's telling my son that he needs to leave me now.
Blah blahlah blah blah blah blah. Oh, he said that
he needs to come to court and he needs to
say that everything he's doing is right. Nope, not what
I said at all. The judge heard it and was like, hey,

(01:41:40):
guess what. You can no longer talk to your kids
about anything that's going on. It's like, what the fuck?
So I have to go completely blind. I have to
go completely hoping that I'm doing the right thing by
their attentions and what intentions and what the hell's going on.
That's fucking insane, It's fucking crazy. I don't know. Man,

(01:42:08):
As much as this world is getting fixed and going
back the right way.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
I don't think anything's getting fixed. I've been like I've
been on that copium since twenty fifteen, like, surely it reverses.
Surely this reverses.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
You don't think language is going back the other way
where it's becoming like stringent.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
In twenty fourteen, we've gone back to twenty twenty one.
I don't know, Like I know, I don't see a
reversal that actually gives me any confidence because because we've
seen other shift backs where it's just like, uh, when
the Social Commentary anti SGW YouTube was like huge with
all that, it's like, oh wait, wait, we're getting some

(01:42:48):
ground back, and then nope, and it's like, well, surely
with all these PDFs and all these other thing Nope,
but nope, like and there's no, there's no Like it's
just too much division. There's too much division to actually
gain anything back, and too much uncertainty about anything going on.
And you can even see that with like all the
weird stuff going on with the current presidential situation. Yeah,

(01:43:13):
we already forgot that Trump was almost assassinated and Kamala
just no one voted for Now she's the representative.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
And it's weird, like, and we even have this problem.
How many times have we talked and we're like, okay,
even most recently. I don't use that example because I
don't I don't care. I was asked if Gavin could
come on, if Milo, if we wanted to have Milo on.
We had an open conversation about it. Okay, what is
this going to do? YouTube serior twice? Is it going

(01:43:43):
to abtectic?

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
I would love to talk with Milo, but we would
be deleted immediately and lose all of our sponsors.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
I'd love to talk to Gavin too, And it's just like, okay,
do we risk it? Is? Is the value of what
could happen valuable? And it's just like, huh.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
And what that means is we're now We're not even
back at twenty seventeen. And I thought shit was already
collapsing in twenty seventeen, So we haven't even gone like
it hasn't reversed that much where it's like, oh, it's
safe to bring Milo on it's safe to mention Alex Jones,
it's not. So we're not gaining the ground. We think
we're gaining. And I think it's just the division where
you know, somehow we're simultaneously in this strong bidenomic economy.

(01:44:22):
But Kamala is going to fix every problem when she
gets in, even though she's already in. Everyone's stupid. Does
that make sense? We're it's over. So No, I don't
think anything's getting better.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
Nope. I think I just figured it out. I think
I just figured it out. I think the people that
think that it's getting better are the people that do
things and are very very active in person inter personally,
you're not being canceled for things. You can say retard,
you can say dipshit, you can you can say whatever
the fuck you want openly in person and it's not

(01:44:54):
going to affect you in the way that if you're
typing that on Twitter or typing that on Facebook, you
might genuinely have a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
Now, I thought I was safe with my friends and
I said that the I don't even like saying retard,
even though like you're the one saying it. But yeah,
I said that around my friends, like you can't say that.
I'm like, bro, we're playing League of Legends. We should
be allowed to say it, but not like it's it's
the fucking mind virus has taken over.

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
I don't know. Like to me, I always resort back to, okay,
could it be said in a city by me? Could
I walk into the city?

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Yeah? That's actually funny when like you actually think about
the words.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, can I walk
in the city and this will cause a problem? No.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
I love those jokes where it's like you're not allowed
to say that. It's like, what do you mean? I
can say retard, but I don't say the other words.
We referred as that word the letter word.

Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
There are two words that I can walk into a
city and I cannot say. I could go back.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
Around two, but two definitely, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
But like two phrases that are like these two are
absolute zero. Everything else doesn't cause a problem. How many
people will stop you because you say retard? I don't
think very many.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
Depends on the city.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
You could go in New York City and absolutely nobody
would give a fuck, especially if if you're confident and
actually having a conversation and you're not stuttering and like
uncomfortable and saying it. If you talk like a normal person,
most people just flow with the confidence of it's just
a normal conversation. And I think that's exactly where where

(01:46:30):
that disconnect is right now is online We're not at
twenty seventeen. We're not, but I think the world is
back to twenty nineteen ish, not touching that twenty seventeen
Milo era, but we're getting back to going there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
Whying was still felt like oh it's over, bros.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
But in person, we're starting to actually have that dialect
of free flowing conversation almost There are the people in
the on the very very far left that will shut
down any conversation, but they're shutting down any conversation regardless,
like there's no change in them. But it seems like
a lot of the people in the middle are no
longer accepting that division in conversation. And I think that's

(01:47:13):
where a lot of people are saying that there's possibility
of things being accepted again. And like you see it
on Twitter. Obviously you don't see it at other places,
but Twitter and rumblell definitely showcase that in a different light.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
Well, I don't know, I feel like if you went
to like Seattle or Portland, really any of the West
Coast major cities and just like said something like that,
everyone would pull out their phone start making TikTok video
like say it again, you're the bigot, Like that's the
energy out here.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
I am one.

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
Yeah, but now they just be like, nah, you're just
a fascist and you can't take that word from the
actual people that need it, no matter how like you
could pull out a card that's like signed by doctors,
like you're not allowed to appropriate mental illness terms.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Motherfucker. Your mental illness terms were the thing that created autism.
So if I'm autistic, i'm technically in some ways. You
put them under these guidelines. I'm sorry. You're the one
that changed it. You're the one that made it available
to be connected. That's on you. I'm a retard. I
can't help that. I can speak negatively about myself at

(01:48:20):
any way I want. It may not be politically correct,
but I had a fucking thought line that I completely lost.
Fucking hell yeah, no, it's it's really fucking weird. And
I think that there are parts where we are going
backwards but not enough. Mm rewind me, what what did

(01:48:47):
you say, go to Seattle.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Yeah, you go to Seattle. You're not. You can't say anything.
They'll they'll they'll accost you and pull out their phones
and get you canceled. There'll be docs in two hours
if you just go on the street Seattle and start
yelling stuff, not even the bad stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
It's it's weird, isn't it. It's like you could become
a viral sensation for saying that. You get blow drops
and you spit on that thing, and you could be
an Internet sensation that makes millions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Oh yeah, you get love for degenerate stuff. Of course.
It just that goes back to little Satanism and all
this co option where it's like, yeah, anything that feeds
the demons will get you popular, any anything. Yeah like that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
Well it cycles back to that Tyson quote. If you're
the one that is hated and and hate makes money,
hate makes.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
Money, doesn't. I'm proof of that because it's it's there's
a point where you, like you do get canceled and
there is no returning. I have like like what Pautie
Pie said when he was playing pubg He can't he
still has his g fuel sponsorship. He came back from that, Like,
how same thing with all these other things, where like
I was talking about Sacred in the Pokemon community, Sacred Almighty,

(01:50:02):
he actually told people drink bleach. I never did. I'm
the one that's not allowed to speak or be or
be alive in the Pokemon community.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
The things that I don't understand, especially with your ship.
And I know you're not going to be unbiased in
saying this, but regardless, whatever, how how do people that
say the same things in cod lobbies that you said,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
Lobby, I'm I'm dieted down, I don't even sake.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
There's nothing like even that example of Sacred saying it
and you saying a tone down version of it. You're
not accepted, but Sacred is. I think both of you
guys should be accepted. Both of you guys should be
allowed to talk. You should be.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Either either I get like everyone gets canceled or no
one gets canceled in the situation, maybe because I I've
never said anything as bad as everyone else has said
or done, but whatever, sure.

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
And that's why I think that the whole no apologies
just goes scorched. Her works the best. It doesn't fucking matter.
It doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
That's why did it didn't work?

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
Milo got canceled because everybody rallied against him for saying
something that was the most milk toast thing that came
out of that motherfucker's mouth. He said something negative about
Leslie Jones. What movie has Leslie Jones ever done that
anybody likes? Anybody? I The only time I've ever heard
of her is that Ghostbusters movie, and I heard that

(01:51:29):
she played a very very stereotypical character and did a
horrible job at it. What part of that doesn't make sense?
Why does Milo get canceled for that? Not the sentence
of he had a gun put to his head while
he's being fucked from behind. That story's cancelable a hell

(01:51:50):
of a lot more than saying somebody's bad actor.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
I mean, I my thought. No, Like, he got canceled
for the thing where he was like apologetic towards the
people that grimmed him more than the Leslie Jones thing.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
The Leslie Jones thing was the thing that removed him
from Twitter completely.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
Yeah, but he was already like canceled before then.

Speaker 1 (01:52:10):
But blowing up blowing up too, Yeah, and honestly, him
feeling negatively for the people that abused him is the
most normal thing for abused kids to do.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
I mean positively, he said negatively.

Speaker 1 (01:52:29):
Yeah. Yeah, like my son the other day he's like, yeah, well,
my mom leaves me to go smoke cigarettes all day almost,
and it's my job to watch my sister. I was like,
whoa wait, hold on, rewind that, because that's the same
problem that was happening with my oldest. It was part

(01:52:52):
of the situation. Why are you saying this still is
happening when she was already taken One kid was already
taken because of it. And then he's like, wait, well,
she doesn't say I have to watch her, but I
watch her some way. She's okay. I'm like, no, you
just are told that you don't have the responsibility. But

(01:53:14):
she fell while you were while she was eating dinner
and you were in the other room. You would get
yelled at. That's where it's not okay, that's not how
things should work. But it's the basic standard for most
kids that are abused is to protect the people if
they mattered to them, because it's the way that they
feel comfort, it's a way that they feel like they're

(01:53:35):
a human, and it's the way that they you know,
even after dealing with all my abuse, I still look
for my dad At my graduation, after I didn't talk
to him for seven years, I finally became verbal and
out about the abuse. Afterwards, I still looked for that

(01:53:56):
validation because everybody looks for validation, and that way, regardless
of if there's a negative situation or not, and him
being open and saying, you know, I wanted it is
kind of that same childhood mentality of just accepting that
it happened and you no, you don't want your control
taken away. And hopefully I've skated past this in a

(01:54:18):
positive way so that way it doesn't sound retarded.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
No, like you threw too many downers into this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
Nah, there's no downers in this episode. It's all fire.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
If you believe. So we can have the comments decide
down below for the three people that are watching, ninety
nine point eight percent into the retention.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
Yeah, well, thank you, guys. We'll see a fucking next time.
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