RMTS 157: GTA 5 RP Ruins Marriages

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So she was cheating not only in her relationship, but
in the game that she was trying to portray herself in.
She was legitimately cheating.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Getting the boyfriend is stream snipe for your clout, yo,
I kind of respect you.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
In stream sniping to get better dicks than his.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
If that was if it was just for the growth
not of the dick but of her channel. Like again,
I respect that.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Boys. This is RMTS one fifty seven, just me and Verliss,
just the boys today, and.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's only half of me because I've been playing too
many video games all night and I'm too lazy to
put on a facecam now, because like New World is
doing a relaunch next month, and I've been making videos
and I was up all night and then Zach said,
let's record, and I said, fuck, I just woke up
at seven pm.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, we we had two weeks worth of hell. You've
been degenerate, orryless again, and I've been going through absolutely
hell exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
That's all this means, Like no facecam means like we
in Google hours and I'm lazy, oh frozen. Oh no,
I gotta cover, I guess. But it's probably recording locally,
so I don't know what's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I'llow you're back, okay. I don't know why the Internet
just shipped the bed. I don't know if it's still
doing it, but we all know. You're just sitting there,
like you haf near with a fucking robe on one
slipper on, and you're like hoping your cock doesn't slip
out even though you don't have a camera on. But
how's everything swim trunks?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Because that's like how im trunks? Yeah, I feel like boxers,
even if it's just me, is a little too not enough,
So I usually just have swim trunks on.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I don't remember if you were on this episode or
if it was just me and Ippo, but I don't
ever wear boxers. They're uncomfortable as fuck to me. So
I just always have pants on.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I mean I have like my uh yeah, like sweatpants,
and I don't wear anything under.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
That exactly, Like it's just sweatpants, pajaba pants, you know,
the normal.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Job pants, those where you know the dick pants. You
all got some dick pants, and but I don't wear
those because like if dog wants to go outside, well
I still got to put on like real clothes. If
I'm going outside in my dick pants, so I think
having the swim trunks is just the compromise. That's that's
my casual lounging.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
So as always, guys, check out a check out, g fuel,
use quote, arms has to check out, check out the merch,
go show them some love. And uh, honestly, it's been
one hell of a week. And I didn't really expect
last week to go as badly and as surprisingly acceptable
as it did. But on Monday, I returned to streaming

(02:58):
after everything happened last week, and uh, one of one
of the homies raided me, and I had one hundred
and seventy people on my first stream back after not
streaming for like three four months almost entirely, and like
six months full time.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
So that's that's very nice.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
It was a weird fucking time. And then the day
after I had another fifty people because the fucking pKa
discord decided to raid me and start trolling me. So
it's been a really weird week. Depression and then spikes
of dopamine of holy shit, there's two hundred people watching
me and I'm half fucking awake. It's been a really

(03:41):
weird fucking week. It really has.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
But I like your little corner that you got set
up now like that, that looks really nice for just
like a facecam if you're like, oh, podcast and I'm
streaming from the corner. Got a little led back there.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Good, So well that's not only an led. I'll try
and move out of the way in a second. But
my girl, So what happened was our baby ended up passing.
So I'll go into that more later at a different time.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Exactly, we need the audience invested before we bum them out.
We learned that a couple episodes ago.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
But I want to like, She's like, I want to
give you a spot in your office where like you
can be with you, And I was like, okay, that's awesome.
So we ended up having to cremate him and everything else,
but she let me kind of just go hog wild.
And because his middle name was Link, I got an ocarina,
I got the yeah. And then obviously there's a Zelda
poster about it. But I I thought it was a

(04:34):
good idea. I don't know, it looks nice, that's all
that matters. But and you know, he's always with us,
which is nice.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Even outside of the story, Like Aesthetically, it's it's fine
down there. It's good.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, I wish the remote head batteries that way I
could flip the color over the blue. But other than that,
everything's good. But yeah, no, it's been it's been a
hell of a week. But you know, there's definitely positives
coming out of it. Things are okay, but yeah, it's
and it's been crazy. So the world has fucking blown
up since we've recorded last time. We have Facebook now

(05:09):
all of a sudden turning conservative, Diddy being arrested with
crazy amounts of dildos and marriage is falling to gta arp.
Where do you want to start?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I didn't even know that Facebook was uncensoring conservatives because
it's like, oh yeah, that's where like all that's happening
on Twitter, so I'm used to that, but not anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
So from what I've seen, yeah, type it up. No,
I wanted to bring up the link, but I did
this all yesterday while I was riding home. I literally
had it ready for last night, so that way we
had the availability whatch you MC call it. So Facebook

(05:50):
went through and the platformed all of the Republican people
and everything else. Before twenty twenty and everything else because
they didn't want Trump to win. We all knew this,
this was a huge, big thing and everything else.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Now only half the country knew that.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, no, some people just don't agree to it at all.
Now Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg has hired a whole bunch
of Republican people to support the Republican people on Facebook altogether,
and he's decided that he's leaving the left wing party
altogether and he is now going to be conservative and

(06:26):
a libertarian because he doesn't want his money taken.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah. I missed all of that, which is kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, it's crazy. I didn't see it, and I didn't
see it as a big thing literally until what you
m'a call. It was scrolling through the big news on
Twitter and I was like, wait, Facebook is flipping? Why
is Facebook flipping? Makes no fucking sense.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
I've I've seen like a little bit of bastiness coming
out of the Zuck over the last couple of months,
Like after he did his Fourth of July post where
he's doing his like surfboarding while with the American flag,
It's like, yeah, he cares. He was a he was
a normal person at one point. It seems like it's
he's fallen back into that. And I saw like another
thing where he made like some kind of comment or
like there was some kind of action that was like, Oh,

(07:13):
that wasn't like completely far left from the zook. Let's
go maybe maybe someone's developing.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, uh, breaking news as of twenty two hours ago,
breaking Mark Zuckerberg is reportedly aligned with libertarian ideology and
has hired Republican strategists for a pair relationship with the
right wing media and operatives after years of censorship. Huh
so what is about to happen? Are is everybody actually

(07:39):
seeing that the left is a bunch of pieces of shit?
Because I'm thoroughly confused. There might actually be a flip
back the other way. Well, the flips that I've been
calling for years.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Now, there was never really a flip if we count
like legal votes and who really won the election. But
now the perception has has gone back where it belongs.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, no, it's just it's weird now. Mark Zuckerberg is
trying to get money from Republicans. Guys. Facebook was the
largest for how long, Meta is now still two of
the largest social media is on.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
The p Yeah, when you image money to like terrible
politics and ideology. You realize like, oh wait, there's there's
one place where it's where it's better.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
It's just it's it's crazy. The fact that they're going
through and trying to do this. Now, Yeah, I wonder
if it's honest or not.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah. I was in an argument with my commy friend
because like, actually talking to a hard far leftist is
just like, wow, they have no attachment to reality. They said,
like the whole Haitian situation in the Springfield, Ohio, Like
those are legal immigrants, but they're not like on Springfields
and website they have like some kind of special protection

(09:04):
and it's like, oh, these are I have to look
it up now because I wasn't expecting to say this, No,
you're good not I just I'm like, I'm fill air.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
That entire story, all of it is so fucking crazy,
and everybody's like herder they're eating dogs and cats and ducks.
I'm like, it doesn't matter how many times they've eaten dogs,
cats or ducks. Do you realize how fucked up that
entire microeconomy is? Now?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Do you not understand how fucked up that entire section is?
You can't just dump twenty thousand of any.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
That's a third of their population. That's like if we
dumped what three billion people in the entire United States
just here, let's see what it does here you go, guys,
it's fucking stupid. It's fucking stupid. There's no fucking infrastructure
for this shit. And that's the ship that everybody's fucking
complaining about. Yet they wanted to clip and meme based

(10:00):
stuff of Trump.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Saying what about the actual citizens in this country that
needed the lower class or the homeless, Like the Haitians
didn't walk from the border into Springfield. Someone paid to
put them there and then give them other benefits, and
that's like, why are we doing this? So yeah, on
the website, the question is are immigrants legally here? And
how did they qualify? So there's an immigration parole program

(10:24):
that makes them a temporary protected status. So and then
like further down on that, it's like, oh, they're actually
not citizens. So the left actually thinks that if you're
a legal immigrant, you're automatically a citizen. But no, there's
a lot of there's countless programs and weird things through
the administrations where like, yeah, across the border, something happens

(10:46):
and then you're just a special class that is immigrant,
not illegal, but not a citizen, and then you still
get thousands and welfare benefits every month.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah what you McCall it. I I've seen a couple
of them say that they their their food stamp card
is the magical food card or the magical magical unlimited
cash fun. Yeah that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
But the crazy driver's licenses when they have no experience.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
They're getting did you see how many cars they've crashed?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
A lot?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
That's what I was about to go through. I was like,
it's every single turn. It goes back to, like you
remember how on uh Family Guy and everything else they
would do, all those stereotypes of oh, Asians can't drive,
or oh women can't drive.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
How much signal I need to cross eight lanes? None?
I go. Now it's the same fucking thing.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Now these Asians have no idea what the fuck they're doing.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
You know, the problem is no idea. Nothing passes the
eye test. But because it's not virtuous to use your eyes,
like don't believe relying eyes, like the left just cannot
cope with reality and it's weird.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I don't know. I was having this talk with Woody
and I was like it. The hardest part about it
is both sides are so exaggerative that it's hard to
believe either side. And I'm not saying from my perspective,
I'm saying from like humanity perspective. I'm saying from like
normal everyday person. Shit. You look at the right and

(12:16):
they're like herd, They're they're taking our gerbs still. And
you look at the left and they're like one world
government for all, and we're like, what the fuck is
going on? What the fuck is going on? Either side? Yeah,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
When you look at it and it's actually like a
parole program and they're given government assistance to acquire those jobs.
They're actually taking jobs from citizens that should happen or
at least be given a chance at them. But you
say that now you're racist and you hate immigrants and whatever.
It's like, No, I'd rather like care about the people
that are.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Already here exactly, Like at some point we kind of
have a sense of morality towards the people that were
you know, brothers and sisters with not you know, some
random person across the country that never was here before.
I don't, No, I would love to see a morality

(13:09):
heat map.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Uh, it's it's like the new like right wing meme
that's making the rounds, and it's from a study where
it's like in groups versut groups and stuff, and how
much like compassion the left has, like liberals versus conservatives have.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Holy shit.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, so it's a it's a moral allocation by ideology,
and if you can pull that up on the screen,
it helps yep. Is Liberals they have like equal care
for everything, like all living beings, but then when it
comes to conservatives, they're more focused on community, friends, family.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, so it seems like the center would be you,
your family, the people closest to you, and as it
reaches out then it would be more and more everything. Yeah,
less vague.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
So I think like that's the big distinction is it's
self interest. But like self interest isn't a bad thing, however,
the left sees it as evil even it's like, no,
self interest is me the people around me in my community,
And you can't have any kind of prosperity without focusing
on self interest because you can't help everyone everywhere all
at once.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Well, I think that that's a huge thing that we
learn in like elementary school, which is why I think,
you know, a lot of conservatives don't happen until after
you're thirty five, because you know, you kind of get
a little bit hard into it. But you learn that
back in elementary school. Oh, you know, Herder, we got
to be calm, We got to be able to take
care of each other. We can't be selfish. We got

(14:41):
to share. And it's like those things stick, and the
fact that those things stick, it's not oh, here's a
mazzarella stick because I have six and you have five.
It's Herder, let me talk for you, let me explain
for you, and it's karenisms and all this shit, and
it's stupid. It's fucking stick.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
The more like you really get into how the left
responds to things, especially in like the supercharged climate, it
really just kind of shows like how fake all this
virtue is. Where it's like, oh, yes, virtuous is having
morality towards all things. It's like that doesn't help anyone,
but you think you're better, and then that's like then
they come at this moral superiority like I like more
things than you, or I'm moral towards more things to you,

(15:22):
Therefore I'm better therefore you're wrong and evil and racist
and all these other things, and then it just falls apart.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
They showed that to the COMMI friend and he's like,
he's like, I don't get it. And then he said
and then I explained, and he's like, oh, yeah, now
I understand, Like, well, not under I'm trying to find
what he says, because it was one of those things
like he just doesn't. Oh, I don't see this as
a bad thing. Right Wingers only giving a shit about
their own and only caring about issue when it happens

(15:50):
to him directly is a bad look for you. So
thanks for proving, like, thanks for making confers.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Both of them are wrong. Both of them are wrong.
And then you have the idea isolationist ideology where it
will be like the first three circles, it's like you
care about your state or whatever, and that's it. Like
there are more circles than just those two. But at
the same time, none of them are fully correct because

(16:16):
at some point that care has to taper off, but
your own your family should be first. And the reason
why you bunch of fucking liberals, why it's such a
big fucking problem, I'll explain it. It causes the problems
in single parent households. If they never give a fuck,

(16:38):
if they never do exactly what the fuck is going on,
then all of the time they are going to sit
there and pull away from their family. They're gonna pull
away from the things that they need to do.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Where's father?

Speaker 3 (16:50):
They're gonna say when it comes back, all right, yeah you.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Said you have to buy some milkboardy two years ago.
If you could be back any man, look at the
next picture. I just said, I got it.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I'm bringing it up.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Love versus right less careful family.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Isn't that Isn't that crazy? Yeah, love for others should
not come above love for family. It's not fucking complex.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Those two graphs explain everything. It's it's kind of fascinating.
And like I said, and then there's a gap because
people on the left like.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Crazy, crazy thing here is for friends? How is your
friends above your family? And I don't know what the
hell they're using as a term for family here. So
I don't want to sit there and go like super
hyper focused into that. But at the same time.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Like actual direct relatives, because on the left they go, oh,
family is what you make it. You know my friends.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
That That's why I was saying as a whole like that,
why can't sit here and use it. It's traded higher
on both sides.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well, you know you can see the gap though friends
and family are about equal.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Absolutely. That's what I'm saying though, is like this shit
is part of the reason why single mother households happen.
This shit because if you'll look at it, most single
mothers end up cleaning berry very far left. They care
more about everybody and everything else, and then their dudes
walking out of the house because they've never been shown

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any stability and anything else in their life. They're like her, hear, guys,
nobody gives a fuck anyway, I'm gonna go get some
milk today and never come back.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, also, I think it's more like resentment that develops
inside of a family where it's like, wait, why you
won't to care about our community and our country when
there's people starving in Africa and this my friend isn't
getting affirmed by their conservative parents. So it creates, you know,
this resentment and then it's like, oh, family just gets
thrown away.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Actually, you want to hear something crazy, My daughter was
being a smart ass but she asked me a question
the other day, and I think, I think you'll get
a kick out of it, and I want to hear
your opinion. It's not anything to do with that. But
so she looked at me. She said, Dad, I have
a question. I said, okay. She said, Dad, what would
you do if I became a furry? M I'm like,

(19:09):
what sounds funny? What level furry are we talking about?
Because I know she's being obnoxious, but I want to
actually make her think it's like, what level of furry
are we talking about? Are we talking about Oh I
just heard her wear ears? Or am I putting fucking
you know, in every single bathroom? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
She's like, I don't know, you have to like treat
you like a cat.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
How how would you treat me, Dad? I said, I
wouldn't treat you any different. The thing is is you're
not anymore protected because you're a fucking furry, Like, what
more do you want from me? I know?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
But at the same time of these kinds of discussions
is like the level of how much you entertain it
where it's like I wouldn't treat you differently. That also
means I'm not accommodating by putting a litter box in
the bathroom for you exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
It's really weird with her. I love her to death
and I hope that you know.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
I mean, that's like the most base shit. If that's
like your kid shit posting you what if I was
a furry.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Oh she she does. She has become so fucking far
conservative because of like being back around me and me
receiving full custody of her. She is just like, I
don't understand any of this shit. It's all fucking stupid.
She is so fucking loud about everything, but much more
call it. I remember when she was a kid, I

(20:27):
tried to like I didn't think that this was my job,
but it was always what I wanted for my kids
is I wanted to make them the best versions of
them that other people would accept. And I know that
sounds fucked up as a parent, but like, you don't
want your kid being the weird kid that's ostracized by
fucking everybody. Parents, that's your actual job is take care

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of your kid enough that way they're not ostracized by everybody.
So for like a year, she always acted like she
was a cat, like she would do kittie noises and
put her hands up and it was cute but at
the same time really fucking annoying in some circumstances. I
was like, you gotta fucking stop this. You're gonna be

(21:09):
looked at as a weird kid. Fucking stop. And then
she comes up and like completely flips and just makes
a joke about being a furry and I got such
a fucking giggle out of it.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Wow, parentsing correcting childhood behavior instead of just saying, like,
just appealing to whatever nonsense your kids cooked up that day.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
No, and I do the same thing with my son too.
I don't remember if I sent it in our group
our chat or not. I don't think I did. But
I found a list of banned words for a classroom
and it was like all of the riis and all
that shit, and I was like, dude, y'all know what
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get a whiteboard for the fridge,
and anytime he says something that doesn't make any fucking sense,

(21:52):
we're writing it on the fridge and it's now a
band phrase because I'm I think that this will work
out the entire problem. I think we'll it and we'll
get the point across and it'll fix everything.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
You know. What's interesting, Like that made me think about
King of the Hill because that show was incredible at
like social commentary and these kinds of things, because there
was a lot of episodes where Bobby got into a
fad and then he was getting mocked for it and
Hank was the only one that saw it and was
trying to discourage it. But that made Hank the bad guy.
But in the end, it's like, oh, wait, no, that's

(22:25):
the natural resolution and he made the correct move. But
then well, as a dad, I'm just like, well, he's
a caricature, so that means no matter what he did,
it's wrong. It's like, nah, well this is where it
gets weird.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
As a dad, you don't want to destabilize who they
are as a human, but you want to restabilize them
as a consistent human. So doing a hobby, playing Pokemon,
playing yuy Oh, playing D and D or whatever level
of gaming or whatever you're doing should not be your

(22:58):
entire self worth or your entire sense of self. Like
you can be a human and be a different person
than that. And I think that that's kind of what
we lost, like we and not we I think it's
probably the generation before ours, because if I think about it,
I'm thirty, like my kids are older because you know,

(23:21):
I had kids early. So if I look at my
youngest who's four, and that's kind of like the logical
age for my kids, it's the generation before us. It's
it's my parents and most people born in this late
seventies and early eighties, it seems like anytime that they
got into a hobby, they made it into their personalities.
So now they're making everything. Every kid's personality, and that

(23:45):
personality is like such a impulse, impulse, impulse, I need
dopamine now kind of culture that it's kind of fucking
with everything. And that's what you see with their zoomer
language of I don't make any fucking sense. Is I
just want the dopamine out of the world. That's all
that I need.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, kids are over stimulated and like hyper cycling through
pretty much everything. Because I was actually thinking about them,
like what did people do in the eighties, They like
watch football, went to the bar and fucked because there
was nothing else to do.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
And we it's weird. Like even if you look back
at like the mid two thousands, so like two thousand
and six, two thousand and eight, where we were starting
to connect via video games and everything else. The world
wasn't like how it is now.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
And fuck it's social media. It's all social media's fault.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I don't even think social media fucked it. And that
might sound weird, because, like I was so drastically addicted
to playing video games online and stuff like that because
it was something I didn't have. I didn't have an
Xbox until Black Ops two. You know what I'm saying.
I think midway through moun Or for three actions, but
I didn't have an Xbox, so like I didn't have

(25:04):
that level of, oh, I'm just going to do this.
It didn't fill my need for human connection. It created
a more availability to it. But now we've disconnected by
using the same exact thing that gave us a tool
to connect to everybody. You know what I'm saying, It's
like we've made it so liberalized that it's disconnected. Other

(25:27):
than for myself, it's like I want the number to
go up and that's it. That's all I care about.
That's why we have two fucking clips channels, you know
what I'm saying. We have one that I post on
our full on channel and everything else, and then we
have a clips channel that gets every single clip that's
made at all ever from our clipper. That's it. That's

(25:50):
how I do it, because one channel gets everything, see
what the fuck it does? And then our channel gets
a certain amount and uploaded and tested and played with
to see what the algorithms do it. Yeah, it's not
it's not crazy to believe that this shit isn't affected
by you know, the early two thousands where we're like, guys,
I want to play video games, but my friend can't

(26:12):
come over today. You know, we were playing couch co
op games literally twenty years ago. It doesn't feel like
twenty years. Me sitting here talking about the early two
thousands feels like ten years.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah. Like the thing that has crushed me is I
hear like oh in Nintendo Switch and then we buy
the new Mario Party and it's online and we can
do like play all those Mario Party games again, and
not a single friend has done it. Yeah, it's like
it has to be in person. And I think that's
the thing about social media. Like your friend down the street,
you just hit them up on Twitter or Discord and

(26:45):
you don't even communicate with them in person.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Ever, well, that's not even all of it to me,
and that might sound stupid.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, we're just like, come on, we've already been watching
like the mental health decline.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Don't disagree with that. I don't know, but like when
there's a difference in between, you know, Okay, let's let's
hit each other up on text. We don't call, we
don't do anything. We'll play six games of war Zone
and then you go on about your day. To me,
that person is in a worse place than me and
you sitting in a discord called bullshitting all day and
you know, we meete ourselves to go take a shit

(27:20):
for an hour, and then we come back and we
play video games and we're all playing Mario Party and
everything else, or we're streaming Mario Party. You know what
I'm saying, Like that to me is different. There's a
different level to that, And it's kind of odd because
I don't think it's as bad as it could be,
but it definitely could be better if we actually use
the tools that we have. Yeah, like remember having that

(27:42):
aunt that you never talked to because long distance was
fucking expensive and they lived halfway across the country and
now she's right next to you for.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
All that because like or at least like how early
you access it, because you don't develop the same.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
I think that, Yes, I think that. I think the
age of it is is a big problem. Like if
we look at this and we go about this and
in this way, and we even use our consuming as
a way to understand if me Verless and fucking Aiden,
Matthias from the Lower Lodge and Wendygoon all decided to

(28:15):
play fucking Mario party, guess what. We all don't have
to get on a plane to play Mario Party and
hang out and be friends. We can live all across
the country and we could hang out every single night,
and you could have your best friend around you every
single day. But at the same time, when you don't
allow it to connect you, you allow it to disconnect you.
It causes such a fucking disconnect that there's a huge problem.

(28:38):
That's what I'm saying. I don't think Internet is the problem.
I think the problem is the way the culture actually
has shifted. The culture shifted to the point where we're
not even communicating anymore. We're just we've gone back to
caveman times where we're all herd or heard her.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, we're stupid. The thing is like we learned how
to hang out the internet distance and advises that Internet wrong.
Verlous One's next topic.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
So Internet, you know, nos bounds, no bounds And this
ship to me was crazy. So I sent you over
that uh that link? Can you read that out to me?

Speaker 2 (29:13):
You want me to read this? This is your no, Okay,
now I understand. I just think it's like, oh, wait,
you want my reaction as I'm reading.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
It exactly and you're not on cam so it works
better because then.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, it also means like it's a kick back in
my in my chair and just just commentate. But so yeah,
our our slash RP clubs g t A. I know
of role playing g t A. I don't know how
it is. Wait wait wait wait, what I mean is
I know, I don't know how big of a scene
it is, but I know that it must be a scene.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
And have you have you tried g t A RP
or anything like that?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Have you have you played g t A online and
like a server on your computer?

Speaker 2 (29:57):
No?

Speaker 1 (29:58):
You would probably enjoy that because it's like so ben
Maxy and you can have fun with it. I used
to play a game called Yovil. I don't remember if
we talked about.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
This before, and now many times.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Fucking love games like that where it's just like you
can kind of social engineer your way to where you
want to be. That's why I like gger.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Social engineering or RP. I like to just grind and
click and watch numbers go up, and if I have
to interact with people like it's tricky.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, but you could be the little slave that you
know goes and gets all the gun parts and then
I can sell them and we make millions and number
go up.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Team people suck and I don't like dealing with them,
but yeah, so we Yeah, we got a big post
on GTA role play. Hey everybody, there's not really an
easy way to say this, but Jillian, my wife of
fifteen years and the role player of someplace, the love
of my life, has apparently been cheating on me for

(30:54):
months with the Twitch streamer moon Moon. This is fake,
immediately moon Moon Twitch.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
It feels fake. It's stupid, but continue.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
And it's RP, and of course it's read it.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yep, it's real. It. It hit number three on Twitter
in trending.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Topics attached you will find their messages from TwitchCon that
I found when I was trying to see if she
was okay. If they're not responding to my check in
messages Saturday night, really saddens me that it came after
months of assuring me it was all role play. I
was sold that lie about sex positivity and girl bossing.
Oh and now it's taking that turn love it when

(31:33):
in reality they were just living out their secret fantasies
while both being married. I'm sure their rabid fan bases
won't care, but I'm also sure there are plenty of
people who will feel vindicated by this, especially those who
have warn't about the dangers of ERP. We can we
can talk about that part, like just everything up to
this point, and we can finish reading it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Wow, So have you experienced any people that actually do
things like this sext in role play things?

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I generally stay away from those kind of weirdos, and
I know it's like a big thing in the huge
but it mostly gets mocked.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Really, the furry connection is a weird one to me,
probably because they actually could be animals and actually enjoy
what they're doing. I could understand it now, you know, See,
if that autism work.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
No, the whole thing is just oh whoa like nuzzles
bulge that they just sexy like that.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
You know this shit. You know the episode of SpongeBob
where it cuts out and then there's like a real
life gorilla that pops into the screen. That's what this
feels like. To me. It's like, holy shit, guys, the
thing's happening. Guys are onto us and then run away
like it's this shit has been happening for decades, fucking decades,

(32:56):
and this is the first time that it's gone this viral.
That to me is crazy. That to me is the
fucked up part.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
And you know, I think she sees role playing as
weird of shit.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Well, everybody saw video gaming as weird person shit twenty
years ago. Did you ever think that there was going
to be a time in our life where D and
D is a normal common occurrence. Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I saw it not being like that too weird, and
it seemed like it was getting a lot of steam quickly.
Role Playing has been around in every community forever because like,
this is a role playing game kind of role play.
This is I want to live out fantasy role play,
and it's always been like the sub niche of gaming
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
That to me is the interesting part is this is
a woman that cheated on her husband of fifteen years
because she got feels in a fucking role playing. Okay,
that is.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Outcome that does not surprise me in any way that
I that. I'm like, yeah, this has always happened, and
it's happened a lot.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
So when you were working, and obviously I understand you
don't like people, but everybody kind of crazes the human
interaction a little bit. Did you develop feelings for people
that you worked with or people that you went to
school with and just conversated with and they were a
little bit kind to you that day. Obviously that's an
exaggerated way to say it, but you understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
That that's that's hard to untack my entire life on
the spot in that kind of way. No, I'm just
saying like, No, I didn't really develop any kind of
work crushes. Usually if something happened in school, that would
actually just be your high school fling and that's how
that would play out.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
So I had one of those. After my son was born,
my wife started dealing with postpartum depression in psychosis, and
it turned extremely violent, like she got very very physically violent,
and it went on and went on, and there was
big problems. But this girl that I was working with,

(35:10):
I started developing feelings for her, and I think it
was because, like she was just being kind and calm
to me, and that's kind of what I needed at
that point. It's hard not to see the genuineness of
both of these situations, like could this just have been
you know, completely RP and he herd her fun at

(35:33):
the beginning. Yeah, there's a pretty good chance she wasn't
lying to you the first time she said it, but
the fifth time down the line, she probably was. And
that's kind of the.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Bigger part frunt about my romantic intentions and feelings. So
it's like it's not something I like stumble into or
if I'm being playful with someone else while being attached
to someone else, like it doesn't cross pollinate. Yeah, so yeah,
I'm kind of detached from that take, but I'm more
interested in like the part where he says they're rabid

(36:06):
fan bases like Diva Jilly Who's were they popular too?
Where it's like not even streamer, just.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Like oh yeah, ok, what keep talking.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
It's like, well, in the role play community, everyone knows
Diva Jilly. It's like even though it's just a person,
Like that's kind of a weird thing is before streaming
and YouTube, they were just people in the community that
everyone knew and they were just those people are like
that guy on the forums. It's always been there and
is like the most popular person that It's like, is

(36:35):
that Diva Jilly? They were? They actually like me, what
I look.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
I looked her up on Twitter and she has seven K,
and you'd be like, Okay, she's probably a little bit
bigger than us, right.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Well, I don't even like I'm also kind of like surprised,
but I'm not like because like when you think about
these days, like, oh, if you don't have fifty K,
you're nobody kind of idea. But it's like, if you
got seven k or without being a content creator, that
means you're a big deal in wherever you got that from.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
And this is her not not crazy, not perfect, but
you know, just so way you guys have an idea.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
If I was likely, I would take so seven.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
K on Twitter. You know that's not that's not crazy.
I would assume probably like maybe twenty k on YouTube
and Twitch that would be my guess.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Do they even have a YouTube Twitch.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Twitch fifty five thousand followers? Wow, so if that's my.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Organic Twitch con So if that's mainly organic, that's huge.
And then moon Moon, Yeah, they actually have enough to
have a rabid community. That's what kind of surprised me,
where I'm just like, oh, and this is like maybe
that's also why because it's like just popular.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
This is where the Nope, this is where it gets crazy.
So I just sorry, shot moon Moon. This dude has
one point two million followers on Twitch. Yeah, his re
is like video streams, the video the VODs are getting

(38:18):
in between one hundred and twenty thousand views and one
hundred and eighty six thousand views, both within the past
two days.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
That's okay, Like until you said that, I didn't Carecter,
I like, well, a million follower Twitch streamer kind of
ain't ship for the most part with And it's also
not a surprise in any capacity to me where it's like, yes,
GTA five is like the most played game ever and
you could probably find twenty million subscriber GTA channels for

(38:48):
every facet of that game. How many hundreds of million
follower GTA channels, are they or content careers tons? So
that's why I'm just like, Okay, it doesn't surprise me
that GTA something is that big, But twitch pods getting
views like that on Twitch pods, that's crazy because no
one has those.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah. And so there's three twitters that are linked to
this Twitch account, and I don't know how who is what.
So there is one named Tuna Fish. Oh that's artist credits. Okay,
I misread exactly where I was going. So they're actual
Twitter one hundred and twenty three K. Yeah you're doing something.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah, you're doing it. I just don't think the numbers
are relevant in how today's social media operates. Yeah, except
in certain ways. So that's why I'm just kind of
like it makes sense this guy escape velocity then, But
also just like, even if this was I say, let's
say two to twenty k Twitch streamers, because it's TwitchCon cheating,
that would be enough to make it go big. I think, Yeah,

(39:54):
but what I'm wondering is if you got a million
followers on Twitch, where are you finding the time to
role play?

Speaker 1 (40:02):
That's what he's that's what he's streaming.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
He's just stream He's got a hundred k weirdos watching
role play GTA streaming, okay, and he's probably role playing
with that chick and the dude's watching it going. Now
there's real emotions here.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
I wonder. I wonder if Josh knows him because I
guess he plays old school RuneScape, so we might actually
be able to get him as a guest. That'd be
interesting to kind of hear about what the fuck's going
on that No, No, I want to see some degeneracy.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
But I'm trying to like, is that is that what
real men talk shit is about?

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Though? Yeah? Because then we could flip.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Such a non nan cheater even do you let them
embarrass themselves?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
I don't know, man like that. And that's something that
you know, we could we could have a meta conversation. Now,
Holy fuck, that's why I did. It is hard to
figure out new guests to expand and explore new thought
processes when you're trying not to consume content, so what
your content doesn't become like a soundproof box of everything

(41:06):
that's going on in the world. It's it's really fucking hard.
Like I have a list. I have a list of
people that I'm going to reach out to today probably,
but as a whole. Do you know how hard it
is to have new ideas that are currently evolving always
like we work together so much better than I've seen

(41:27):
and expected. You know what I'm saying? This shit is crazy?
How do you push one point two million followers but
fuck up this badly and this publicly everywhere?

Speaker 2 (41:38):
And see what I means, Like, if you're that much
of a fuck up, do I even want to talk
to you for an hour or two on in any format? Like,
I just don't. I don't want associate for any reason.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
So so in your opinion, and then we'll go back
to the original post if you had to. If we
were going to do something like in review people whack
pack style where they're like.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
People with that's what this isn't This isn't that to me.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
But that to me is he's so terminally online that
he developed feels for a girl that he plays gt
RP with because she's heard that's germinally online either like
that he streams for six hours a day and still
plays more than that.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, I mean I do that. I do so much
off like for all the I do too amount of
gaming I put into content, like half of that isn't
even streamed, if not, more like a majority.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Of you develop feelings for every person that you interact
with in those games.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Not every person. Like. The thing that I don't like
about it is like, yeah, if you're married, then because
the biggest thing to me is like faithfulness. I am
a one hundred percent true monogamy will not consider feelings
once I'm locked in dedicated kind of person. So I
can't even imagine how you get to a point of
cheating at any capacity. Have you.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Wait, no, of like, okay, so is monogamy the answer?
Or is is polyamorous the answer? Have you actually like?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Thought? And if I'm dealing with like liberals and weirdos
and stuff, I have to have a kind of tight
argument to be on the spot on that. No.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Absolutely, Like a couple of years ago when when my
separation started, like that was part of the conversation was
was non monogamy part of the answer of what could happen?
And eventually I figured out, No, I don't think it's
the right answer, because you know, it's just impulse and
trying to do the wrong things that you feel good.

(43:44):
That was my answer. But I could understand where I
would fall into that very very, very fucking quickly. I
could understand where a lot of people could fall into
that very quickly if they have the availability. I found that.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Picture and I'm like, that's that's how my argument got summarized.
Someone else posted that on Twitter, and I was just like, yep,
that's uh. I don't need anything.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Else so to me and I want your opinion on this. Yes, absolutely,
that's that's how I am.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
In relation it any other way unless you're just to degenerate.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
So when you're in a relationship, do you interact with
anybody of the other sex or do you hold yourself
accountable in those situations?

Speaker 2 (44:32):
I interact with others because I trust myself and my partner,
so we Actually I find it more comforting, Like I
find it a lot better when just kind of like
locked in. Therefore, I trust my emotions around other people more.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
In my past relationship, I didn't. I at fifteen, I
was sexting with a girl, another fifteen year old, and
that was caught and everything else, and that changed the
entire course of our entire relationship because it caused her
to be insecure. When that happened, it was like a

(45:08):
hard and fast line of you're not allowed to talk
to females at all because you do this, So it's hard.
It's hard when I'm developing such a healthy relationship now
that I'm like, okay, I can actually interact with anybody
because that's what I have to do. I'm a human.
Because for so long I was told it's bad to
interact at all, and it was seen as like some taboo.

(45:30):
Now all of a sudden, it's it's weird to me,
you know what I'm saying, And like getting anybody else's
perspective on that is crazy because it's like, oh, yeah,
I can just talk, like but if I talk, then
i'm kind, and when I'm kind, then I'm an asshole
because I'm cheating. It's like it's such a weird triggering
kind of thing because you don't realize the way that
other people make you think.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, well, and going back like, I don't think this
is a termally online thing as much as it is.
I like your eyebrows degenerate thing, and while it isn't overlap,
I think you're degenerate before you become terminally online kind
of idea.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
So that's why it's like, yeah, this is weird. And
I could also see it like if you're not committed
to someone and you get into role play and you're like, wow,
I'm just down with this person. I could see that
developing as well, but not when it's just like, oh,
you're established, you have all this stuff, like the way
that happens in that kind of way, it's like, no,
you you can't seriously role play to the point of

(46:30):
having feelings if both of you are already in a
relationship or married. Like that's where it's just like now
you you all fucking suck.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Okay, So what happened with these bitches that twitch gone?

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Well? I got yeah, that's right, we got to pick
up the bottom half of this. I got curious after
finding these messages check to other dms. See, like that's
another thing where I believe, like the relationship is dead
once you check their dms, like once you open up
their phone or their computer. I can understand the scene
in this because they said like, oh, they didn't check in,

(47:04):
So I checked in on them and then I found
these messages. At that point, like the distrust is there.
You kind of end it when you do that, but
then you also get your closure.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
After everything that I dealt with, I completely agree. I
found that my wife was cheating when I was at
work before, and I repaired the marriage and kind of
continue to move on. And I found so many pictures
and so much shit while I was working. I had

(47:37):
a panic attack at work. I walked up to my
boss and I was like, I'm gonna need to handle
something because she was talking about having the guy meet
her at my job and they were going to fuck
in the parking lot. I told my boss, I was like,
I got to handle something and if the cops show up,
the cops show up, like, I'm not going to hold
myself back from this, and I showed them the messages
and they're like, yep, go ahead, Like this shit isn't.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
A a It's not alread hit that level of distrust.
It's like Reichshi is probably not gonna last much longer
no matter how it plays out.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
And that first sentence proves exactly what my point is is,
if we're in DMS, I'm not gonna treat you any
different than I would in public, because everything as a
content creator is a huge fucking problem if you handle
them incorrectly.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, all right, So there were multiple guys she was
sending and receiving, sending sexual videos and receiving. Yeah, sat,
this ain't r RV. Those are just romance, all of them,
and no pixel, no point attaching these. She would call
them her daddy or favorite. It's also just a hoe

(48:45):
for multiple uh whatever pet names emotional relationships behind my back.
Then had the audacity act completely normal at home. That's
also the other killer. Her best friend warmed me about this,
but I didn't take it seriously. Level of compulsive lying
sociopathy is honestly something I should have seen coming. Same
person who would be the first to grandstand and virtue

(49:08):
signal about any other stream or drama. Yeah, it'd usually
be that way, when it's like the thing that you're
so big about that those are the demons in your closet.
Since I was unemployed, she told me my job was
to check other streams to give her intel on what
people were doing at certain times, to make sure she
had the best outcome for her character. Not fair to
anyone involved, very scummy, but it worked. She became a

(49:31):
big name on the server. Damn getting the boyfriend to.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Like so she was cheating, not only in her relationship,
but in the game that she was trying to portray
herself in, she was legitimately cheating.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Getting the boyfriend the stream snipe for your clout. Yo,
I kind of respect it.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Stream sniping to get better dix than his.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Well, if that wasn't if it was just for the
growth not of the dick but of her channel, Like again,
I respect that, But.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Then honestly that I respects so much more than all
this shit as a whole. If there was a way
to cheat your way to the fucking top and YouTube
or twitch or whatever, yeah, dude, I'm right there beside you.
Let's fucking go. Let's exploit every single shot you got.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Not any anti toos because I'm still big on just like, no,
no clickbait to get there, no fake misleading information.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
I agree one hundred percent. I'm saying as a whole, like,
if it's okay, so if you upload shorts and you
uncheck the box that they get pushed to fake, No,
it's really not. It's really not exploring wise. So I
figured it out after looking at it. When when you

(50:50):
push it out to non subscribers, it pushes it out
randomly to more people that would possibly be in your
sphere of people that would watch your channel. So for
us podcasting, mental health, gaming and those things, it would
pop up in those people can count as a swipe
and watch or a swipe away. If your subscribers do

(51:13):
not click on the video when it pops up in
their short swipe feed and they're talking about the sub box,
it counts as a swipe away guaranteed. So it's essentially
random organic growth, which is why it's.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
A glitch the Algorm's best black box. But it's definitely
not any kind of like exploit or supercharge or.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Get It's not a crazy exploit. But is it a
way to logically get away from the subscriber death. Absolutely,
because there's going to be people that die on your
channel always. Like Woodi's channel is a million subscriber channel.
Do you know how many people of those are active?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I know it's not a lot, but on checking box
doesn't change that on any content format.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
I think what they were saying is it's a way
to grow because it doesn't deal with the death of
your channel. The death of your channel is still there,
it's still going to happen, but it more has a
more positive outcome to it. But like the fact that
she was doing all of this behind his back and
kind of going to this crazy level. It almost makes

(52:27):
me wonder if she was literally one of those ethoughts
and selling herself not only in the game, but on
stream too well.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Definitely on stream. Every female streamer does that at the
risk of sounding misogynists, where you can tell they're fishing
for donations at all points, no matter what. Eight of streamers.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
But do you know how hard it is to genuinely
not say something.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
To me?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
It was weird. It was weird letting people use money
to get my attention. And the first couple of streams
I did when I when I hit fucking affiliate in
a week, it was three hundred people being in chat
at the same fucking time because everybody wanted to understand
it and get to know me. So at the same time,

(53:16):
it's like, okay, fuck, well, okay, So if you guys
want a direct interaction or direct conversation, send it with
five dollars, subscribe, give me a weight, way I can
pick you out of the fucking batch. Because this is
fucking weird.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
I just think that there's more weight to the biological
allure of some dude getting engagement from a woman.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah, and there should be. It's insane that this is
the level that kind of the world was going to.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
So and then the last line of this one, like
guess Marald, the story is no one's safe and nothing is. Yeah,
that's the tragedy.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
As the world becomes more and more and more degenerate,
we're going to see more and more problems in the world.
And as it goes farther, we're going to go farther
and have a bigger problem because more and more is accepted.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Yep. Like you need to protect Like that's why it's
called conservative versus liberal. Like upholding and protecting values is
still very important no matter how bad they sound on
the surface. When you're on like the level fifteen of

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that heat map.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
And it's it's hard. I think it's hard for a
lot of people with mental illness or neurodivergence to kind
of pick up on. But the fact that life has rules,
or life has morality, or life can put you in
a box does not mean that the box is wrong.
It doesn't mean that the box isn't okay. It means

(54:59):
that to be a moral or upstanding person, these lines
are where you have to conform to so way you're okay,
that's I think it's hard for a lot of people
to grab.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
What also goes back to why I think religion is
important whether or not you believe in God. Like, if
you're an atheist, you're just cooked, because then you actually
aren't trying to find any foundations inside of like what
it means to be human. And that's why I love
what Jordan Peterson has to say, where it's just like,
at the very least, it's parables about the human condition,
and you need to fucking understand those.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Yeah, And like I think our I think our conversation
with what he actually you know, was meaningful in a
way that a lot of people don't understand. He's like, well,
I don't believe in God, Okay, you don't believe in God,
but you believe in all of these things being the
answer to how we handle things. So as a whole,
we both grasp the same exact rule for what life is. Yeah,

(55:55):
do we execute that at a different level, Yeah, everybody does.
But at the same time, you seeing a level that
a lot of people don't get is huge. It just
really is.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yeah. So also I like about Jordan Peterson, the way
that he talks about demons like demons either real or
manifested or like it's something about being a person and
the nastiness of the human condition where it's like, you
don't want to feed demons through any form of like sinning,
whether or not the sins are real and actually put

(56:27):
you into hell, or if God is watching, just don't
sin and don't fuel whatever badness lurks inside of being
a person.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
What's crazy is And I just thought of this, and
it could be a way somebody else has explained it,
but I don't. I don't think I've ever heard this.
Each one of those sins is an exaggerative part of
what you want in life. So if you, if you
ever like think of this as an RPG character, if
you make it so way you focus entirely on intelligence,

(57:00):
you will become such a rounded off individual that the
only thing you are is terminally online and autistic. Or
you go into hyper sexuality and you and you crave
lust and the only thing you can do is be
sociable to people to get sex. You're going to become
a very rounded off individual. You're not gonna be able
to touch the other parts of life. I think that

(57:23):
that's kind of what those basic you know sins are
is if if you hyper focus on one, you're going
to destroy your life. If you focus on all of them,
you're going to destroy your life. You can't put ten
out of ten in fucking lust or greed or glut
me and hope that it fucking works out in the end.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
You have to hope that bad things. You can't all
in on a bad thing, but you also can't have
a little bit of every bad thing.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
But like, if you think about all of the all
of the sins, other than murdering somebody else in moderation,
every single person does all of them always.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Yeah, that's why it's more of an avoidance, Like you
don't want to do it to a sinning level.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
But as somebody who was previously atheist, how do you
grasp that? How do you grasp that there's things in
this world that you have to do and that you
want to do and that makes you a rounded person?
But if you don't do them round, cause.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Well rounded means like like you're well.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Rounded, that's what I'm saying, well rounded as in you're
exploring all parts of life.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yeah, what you used rounded as like, oh, if you
only do this, that makes you rounded.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
I understand I flipped the word, but yeah, but that's
what I'm saying is like, if you touch everything and
you're well rounded in doing everything that you want to do,
that doesn't make you necessarily a good person. And somebody
who was previously atheist, it's hard to grasp that. You know,
that's not being a good person. That's being a good human,

(58:57):
but not a good person. And I tell my kids
that all of the time. I tell that importance that
East versus West Coast shit all of the time.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Well, that's why I think the importance is understanding like
what it means about being a person and the pitfalls
of humanity and again that nastiness inside of you. That's like,
what if you are an atheist and you just reject
any teaching of religion arbitrarily, It's like, well, you're rejecting
all that stuff, and it means you're only setting yourself
up for failure or evil.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
And it's hard. It's hard. Okay, So personally, I don't
think waiting until marriage for sex is probably going to
be the answer for ninety nine point nine percent of people.
I don't think it's the answer. I don't think that
that's how it works. I don't think that's how the
human conditioning.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
About religion is separating, like how dated it is, because
like back then, yes, you want to proliferate your group
to beat other groups, and that's why we have these Okay,
I thought my mic felt that's why we had the crusades,
so like yeah, and then also why it's like, oh, yeah,
don't eat pork because it makes you more sick back then,
so like separate that. It's like, no, that's why you

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extract the meaningful stuff exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
That's why I'm saying, like, if you look at everything
in a vague light, then everything will fit. And it's hard.
It's hard because life has so many mirrors. It reflects
everything that you do and everything that you put into it.
And I was telling my daughter this the other day.
So we drove to Walmart, and uh, I don't know

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if this chick was homeless or just down on her
luck or whatever, but she was sitting in front of
Walmart with two babies and a sign. And I'm not
saying this because, oh my God, praise me. I'm saying
less because like I've been there, I was struggling to
that level. I was homeless. I was struggling and living
on a friend's extra bedroom, and you know, you look

(01:00:53):
at these things and you're like, okay, no, what do
you need? I walked up. I gave her the last
ten dollars in my pocket to make sure that she
had diaper. I went them, went there and bought them
myself and handed them to her. And my daughter's like
that she has she has fancy clothes. I'm like, no, kid,
that's That's not how you look at these things. It
doesn't matter if somebody is using you, it doesn't matter

(01:01:15):
if there is a problem and you don't see it.
They are reaching out and they're saying, hey, I need help.
Hey I'm not okay. You cannot look at every ulterior
motive that that person could have because they're asking for help.
If you look for every ulterior motive ever, you're going
to just feel like everybody's fucking negative. It's it's so hard,

(01:01:38):
it's so hard to kind of full on grasp exactly
what being a human is, because like, every single person
should have stopped and made sure those kids are okay,
every single fucking person.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
I disagree on that skill why. It's like, there are
going to be bad actors in the world and you
have to be aware. So that doesn't mean like you're
obliged to help every person. That's I'm not off.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I'm not saying it that way because I don't help
everybody blindly. But if somebody is standing there in eighty degree,
whether with their two kids, standing underneath a tree with
a stroller and a piece of cardboard, you might ask, right,
you might ask, oh, do you have something to drink,
something to eat? At the minimum most people would.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Well, I think you're saying like everyone should help is
a gets to a level of at that point's blind
to a degree if everyone is supposed to default help.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
I don't think everyone should help everyone. I'm saying I
think when there is logical expectation of blindness to what
the situation is, and you know somebody's asking for help,
I think reaching out is not the wrong answer. I
probably said it incorrectly afterr so I apologize, But like,
it's just, it's so it's so frustrating. It's so frustrating

(01:02:59):
because so many people aren't taught the way that everything
works and the right from wrong and everything else that
they just default to everybody's a piece of shit, and
it's like, no, there's such a majority that aren't that
the minority of pieces of shit ruin it for absolutely everybody.
And I think that that kind of dehumanizes us a lot.

(01:03:20):
In no circles, you see the liberals that will accept
all the bullshit, and you see the conservatives that are like,
oh fuck, if you're not a part of the church,
I guess I can't help you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I think the problem is like everyone's gotten burned, though,
so it's kind of impossible. I agree not be negative
where it's like, well, the last time I gave the
supposedly needy mom twenty bucks, I saw her, you know,
with her boyfriend driving away in a luxury car the
next day. I'm not saying it happens all the time

(01:03:51):
and I could still be the minority, but I think
everyone has like some kind of experience where it's just like, oh,
I thought that was a genuine person of genuine need,
and then I got burned somehow.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
It's hard. I was homeless and I had echo shirts on.
Is that crazy? No, it's still yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
I think it's like shallow and go like, oh, her
clothes were too nice, but I think you just like
always have some form of suspicions. Suspicion absolutely comes off.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
But if that kid is suffering, the kid didn't ask
to be homeless, the kid didn't give the mom an iPhone,
the kid didn't give her a five hundred dollars card
note to give her a kid. If a kid doesn't
have diapers and things are wrong, I'll help, I'll hope
if I see the problem. You know what I'm saying.
It's just it's so hard to grasp and I hate

(01:04:38):
that argument of oh, well, her there, she gets food
stamps and she has an iPhone. It's like the world
is so much more complex than that, man, Like, it's
so much more complex than that. We shouldn't be expecting
other people to sell their belongings the way they can
make sure things are okay right in the second, because
then they're not only eight hundred dollars behind, but now

(01:05:00):
they're all up next month behind. Two. It's just a weird,
a weird life. So there are two things on this
list that I was like, Okay, I want your fucking
assessment of this shit. What the fuck is going on
with power World? Now finally being sued almost a year
after you know, blowing up with fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Video on it. So Nintendo made a patent filing in
twenty twenty one. Everyone's getting it wrong because Internet outrage
for everyone's narratives and idiocy. But they're like, oh, they
after Power World released, they follow a patent for the
catching mechanics. It's like, no, actually, this patent has existed
for Pokemon legends, arses and probably even before then. So

(01:05:44):
the idea, like the idea is, if you throw a
spear into an open world scenario, it summons a creature
and that creature interacts with Pokemon or like other creatures,
items or the environment. So Nintendo panted that back in,
which is one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
At least as far as the United States goes. And
you might know just as much as I do. When
you file a patent, you want to make that patent
as vague as it possibly can be because it essentially
gives you ownership of whatever that patent is. So if
I if I patented a cup that looks like this,
nobody else can make a cup that looks exactly like this.

(01:06:19):
But if I make a patent on a black cup
with a lid, that's very vague and gives me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
A lot because then you like saying, or if it
goes to the courts and a judge will be like, no,
that's too vague, that's generic, So you have to have it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
But the point is is you want it to be
as vague as it possibly can be to catch as
many things.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Giving you money.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Yes, but you also want it to be as specific
enough as it possibly can be, so way it gets accepted.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Yeah, that way it's identifiable as its own thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Again, like the Pokemon. The Pokemon patent is very very
very precise and specific. That's the point that I was
getting across. You're good, keep coming.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Well, I think the thing is like it corners an
obvious mechanic but also does like it comes down to
how the court's going to see it. It's like there's
there's a chance both ways. It's like Nintendo gets it
because they decide to file for an open world mechanic that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Was not you see it? How do you see how
do you see this playing out? What's your perspective on this?

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Well that like, I I'm one where it's like, well,
I can't decide or determine laws, so it's kind of
pointless for that. I guess it goes out of way.
To me, I'm not saying wins, I'm not saying power
ward winds. I'm saying it's interesting, and it comes down
to the courts, and we're going to see the system
do its system. And that's the more interesting part to

(01:07:43):
me is how does it play out? Not what I
want to see play out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
I think I think Pokemon is very very clear and
in the right, And that's why I asked what your
opinion was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Say, like, since they have the filing like it's a
legitimate suit, is it a legitimate We'll find out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
It's black and white. It's does this follow what their
laws are on patents?

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yep. And it's also not copyright infringement in any way,
which was like another point of mist.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
That's what was interesting to me is they didn't feel
like they had enough for our copyright. But the patent
was clear and very very viable to sue and I did.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Yeah. And it's also fact the patent was made out
of spite or this is like some kind of rete
tour move. It's like, no, this is Nintendo naturally defending
its patents and it's owned mechanics.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
And to me, that's huge. That's huge. It proves the
point of there wasn't enough copyright. There wasn't and we
had this argument. We had this conversation before I could
see where the conversation is is you made a fake
Mond based off of this and this and then combined
it and look they had that. I understand that agreement
almost completely. We had that conversation on the show. I

(01:08:55):
was like, I could understand where your argument is that
this cross is copyright in some form or fashion. But
guess what, legally it didn't. It didn't otherwise they would
have sued. Or is this the first the vibe? I
guess Power World just released on PlayStation from what I saw,
So that's interesting. They're getting the the shit started around

(01:09:19):
them again. They're like, let's release on PlayStation. Timing fantastic
Power World. You did a great job. But yeah, it's interesting.
It's interesting that game died very very quickly from what
it seemed it does. It's starting to pick back up
or no.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
No, like it never really died. I think it's still
held like twenty k concurrence, which is big. Like I
at no point to have less players than the most
recent Pokemon game.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Oh damn, that's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I mean when you think about, like you go on
Pokemon Scarlet and Violet online, do you think there's ten
thousand people playing that game right now?

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Absolutely no, Otherwise you wouldn't run into like off brand
japan or Chinese people. You would end up running into
like I remember playing gen Sikes and that was the
gen I played the of especially with like playing VGC
and stuff like that. Like if you if you went online,
there was you know, you would run into a Chinese

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or Japanese person once every three or four battles. Maybe
even if you played it off hours, there was still
human there was still you know, Americans that were on
or French people that were on or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Ninety players now so concurrent players that's bad. And even
on the ranked ladder, like if you did free battle,
like you go up against Gym twice in a row sometimes,
but ranked battles going against the same person never happened.
Now happens all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Yeah, It's it's really interesting, man, because the numbers of
how many people are playing this game or that game
are now so in our face. When back in the
day it was Call of Duty that had that number.
That was it there wasn't very many games back in
the day that saw one hundred k players concur or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Now you go on the game, actually a lot of
MMOs you go like because they were proud. They were
just like, we have forty k people online in twenty ten.
That is the biggest shit, so we are advertising it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Well. I remember the big number being oh, we've seen
ten million active accounts ever, and it's like that number
is huge, but how many of those are unique individual
places and people that you know? Then you bring up
a whole nother conversation with smurfs and shit like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
But I act interesting numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
So Power World is boycot being sued? Uh and TCG
pocket is finally releasing what what is the US release
date on that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
That's OK, totally right, thirtieth that came out over a
month ago at Worlds in August.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Yes, we got I'm just making sure I remembered correctly. Yeah.
I am so fucking excited for this shit. I have
so many questions, but I don't know if they've been
covered or not. I trying to keep myself out of
the loop. I just watched your video before we started
while I was making my if you'll use carde rmts
to check out and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
He froze, and I don't know the mechanics behind that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
On the record, I'm not freezing. You're good, You're good,
Okay up there. It is So with TCG pocket is
there just the first one fifty one and it's just
the start of the card game originally. Again, they're making
entirely new sets, so it's it's like they're tying back

(01:12:30):
to those sets and starting new stuff and it's going
to be completely unique to that game, right. They're they're
pretty much like making an alternate timeline with a different
battle style. But like when you look at the cards,
it's it's lower power level. But yeah, like I saw
the original charge Yard I think if I remember correctly,

(01:12:52):
and like there was a couple of cards like that
that kind of like link back to, you know, nineteen
ninety seven where we were all kind.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Of they're also not that shit of cards like more people.
It's more playable.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
It seems like they're doing exactly like what Duelings did,
where you start at the beginning and you have to
work your way through it, but there's not as much
progression in the game, like you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Get to curate it with all the like lessons you've
learned from the modernization game, Like they remove prize cards
because that was a cute gimmick back in the nineties,
but now if you want like a serious competitive TCG,
it's like, can't can't have prize cards.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
No, it seems like they're going ultra hyper competitive. And honestly,
you know, I would have played Pokemon if it wasn't
such a big expensive game to get into, because it's
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Current Actually not, Pokemon is pretty cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
I thought to get like some of the supporters and stuff,
it was two three hundred dollars, and that's magic.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Pokemon's always an under one hundred dollars and you have
a high tier meta deck.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
But what you want to call it, like, it's just crazy,
it's just crazy, Like you can see the disconnect. The
one thing I can say about Yu gi Oh is
when they when they have cards that are like meta
defining our staples in every deck, they will either get
rid of them or run an entire set with just those.

(01:14:13):
And that's the one thing I really did like about
getting back into Yugo when I when I did was
there was availability to build pretty much any deck because
the staples would be coming out within weeks or even
within the year. They would have one or two sets
that just had all of the staples, and that probably
does take out a lot of the investibility of what

(01:14:34):
the card is, but play being able to play the game,
it makes it a hell a lot easier. Yeah, I'm
really interested in pocket though. Oh it can be. It
definitely can be, especially if there's only one rarity of
one card and it's only available on one Well, they deliver.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Konami deliberately makes the best staple card Secret Rare. It's
always one hundred dollars per set.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Yeah, and then they have the Gold series that releases
that Ultra Rare and Gold Rare, and then it's available
to everybody at like a one percent porry. That's what
I'm saying is like, there's availability for it, but at
the same time, it's shitty during the time. That's why
I'm interested in this because you know, Due Links was
shitty because it was such a cash grab. Yeah, they

(01:15:24):
put one hundred cards into a pack and you had
to pull three of the entire box. Just that way
you could get all of the secrets and ultras. It
gets so fucking expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
It like eighty dollars just having an online TCG. Like
that's where the accessibility is. Where I don't have to
go to the store. I don't have to like physically
buy and seek out the packs, and I don't have
to like I'm not only allowed to play on Tuesday
at five pm to seven pm. I think that's the
bigger thing. It's like, if you just have a good

(01:15:56):
mobile accessible game, cool, I don't care about costs or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Are they releasing a Steam version or anything like that
at lease or now that's gonna be shitty, nah shitty
to stream. That's that's where my mind was was like, Okay,
so I'll download it on my PC and I'll stream
from that. Nope, now I have to figure out how
to use my iPad or my phone, which you know

(01:16:23):
gets scary streaming your phone screen. But yeah, I am
so fucking excited for this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
I think we I think we're talking to I just
wanted to be like the next Pokemon Go. If it's
a Pokemon Go of TCG, I'm that's all I want.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Honestly, Like thinking about it that way, I want to
see how many things? Uh player. Yeah, so Duelings currently
in the past thirty days has four thousand as a
peak player in twenty six hundred as an average player.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
That's us.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
For a ten year old game.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
That's the last I want to see all the time.
The age of the game should matter. When something like
yu ge where it's like, oh seven years good and
a representation of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Well it's cycled, but they ended up killing it. I
wish that this was all time so at max its
highest was thirteen k just on Steam, but it's also
a mobile and everything else, so it's kind of hard
to correlate.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
I still think that's kind of week if you're thinking like, oh,
this is the big you know, hearthstone of yu Gi. Oh,
you want to capture more of the community than just
that amount, even like consideration for Steam.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
So in twenty sixteen when Duelings grossed, it made two
hundred and eighty four million dollars and it's a free game,
well threemium game.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
That's also not surprising because I fall like all the
Pokemon mobile games where it's like the amount that Masters made,
and I think even Pokemon Shuffle made one hundred million.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Here here's here's the player count total downloads, one hundred
and fifty million. Like, that's huge, that's a big fucking number.
That's my Pokemon pocket hit. It's mobile and PC.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
It's been like two degree finding one hundred and fifty
million on mobile. Also kind of fake, like how much
does Pokemon Night up to? Like one of those games
got big?

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
This is one of those games where you download it
and then when you open it, you have another fifty
gig download in order to have everything updated and everything else.
So it's not like some basic bitch thing where you
click it and all of a sudden it's good and
everything else. It kind of has the availability to kind
of be disconnected in that way. So one hundred and
fifty million downloads, it's a lot of fucking people. That's

(01:18:56):
a lot of people playing yu gi.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Oh. Do you really think it's that common?

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
I don't. I don't. Any person that played.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Ony Knite has seventy million downloads on twenty twenty two,
one hundred million downloads, So it's I mean, like Pokemon
Nights passed one hundred million, and that game never felt big. Yeah,
So that's why that's why man's like kind of fake like, yeah,
you get a ton of Chinese downloads or a lot
of like Asian and not like Engage downloads, where it's

(01:19:27):
is just like it's.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
A fust start. It's two hundred and eighty four million
since twenty sixteen. As of September twenty twenty four, twenty sixteen,
it made twenty four million, and eighteen and nineteen it
made one hundred and fifty million total. So obviously it
had a huge launch at the beginning in a couple

(01:19:47):
of years, in the first couple of years, but once
the nostalgia died off, it it died.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
That's like the numbers sound big when you compare it
to other things, and like how they felt, because like
at at any point the Dueling Severn few like one
hundred million that had any kind of active conversion.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Now, the interesting part is it was only like seventy
six on iPhone free apps.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Yeah, that's they're just gonna get hundreds of millions.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
It's crazy, But fuck, that's that's insane to know that
it's just y know, it's downloaded that much.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
That's all I mean, it's a free app. Again, the
Asian market on free mobile games is so incalculably massive.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
But it makes me excited for TCG Pocket. Yeah, if
these are the numbers that that you gioh which is
the third level fucking card game hit one hundred and
fifty million downloads, I am not crazy to believe that
TCG Pocket in the first two years could be downloaded
two hundred million times.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
But I don't think those numbers necessarily mean anything.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
I don't think so either, but like it could correlate
to balls to create content or things like that. There's
multiple channels now that have hundreds of thousands of viewers
because of duelingks like they do transfer that way.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
I'm not necessarily excited until I actually see how it
does because of Pokemon you u nit? Like I said,
Pokemon Night never felt as big as it is and
never actually got its chance because like community is toxics,
so commune could be two talks about this like oh
you buypacks. Therefore moist Critical makes a video says it's
pay to win, and then no one in the West

(01:21:31):
buys or plays Pokemon TCG Pocket and it just does.
It doesn't matter if it's two hundred and fifty million
downloads in Japan and Singapore. I really I hope That's why.
That's why I say like those numbers mean nothing Western conversion,
because like League of Legends is allegedly as popular as ever,

(01:21:53):
even though it's like a completely dead game in North America.
So it's like, cool, there's eighty million monthly players for
a League of Legends. It's all Korea and China.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Then it's weird, like I've never I've never even downloaded
League of Legends. I've never even been questionable of, oh
should I download it and try it? It doesn't look
interesting to me. I could understand where it would be
interesting to some people, but I've never been like, yes,
League is where I need to be. I don't understand

(01:22:24):
why that game has so much I don't it could be,
you know, it's just been around the longest, therefore it's
grown the most. I don't fucking know. It could be
there their spending in esports. I don't know why that
game is so big.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Oh no, the game is complete, asked now. But the
reason why it was big early on was because it
was just a really fun game. And it's kind of
like if you just play, it's like like, oh I
don't play FPS, and then you play like a really
good cod game, it's like, oh, I'm just I'm just
playing this forever now. Like that's that's kind of what
happened with League of Legends, where it's like, oh, this
new MOBA thing where I possibilities and.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
I like, oh, it was just the first good one essentially.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Yeah, because DODA was way too inaccessible, because like that's like, oh,
if you don't play for one hundred hours or just
dog shit and everyone's going to smurf on you. But
the thing is like in season two and three, when
League of Legends had like a huge blow up before
it even like had servers in Korea or something, It's like, yeah,
it felt like more people played the League of Legends,
but the player base was completely tiny compared to where

(01:23:27):
it is now. So you get people that are like, oh, well,
League is bigger than ever according to you know, account statistics,
which like, yeah, but it's you know, a fiftieth of
what it was in North America, So it's a dead game.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
I almost wish that they looked at that shit, or
they had a different launcher, or it was Steam UK
and those numbers didn't count, you know what I'm saying.
I wish that we could actually see direct correlation to
the availability in your country or your region, because fucking hell.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Well, companies don't want to publish the right again, No,
that'd be crazy. Admit that the game has no player
base and where it's developed.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
But like, think about it this way. How many how
many times have you seen, Oh, this esports team in
fucking Saudi Arabia finally was able to make it to
this league and then they go zero to sixteen because
there's no fucking player base in the game in the
in the region that they're in. So they were just
able to be the cream that rose to the top.
Doesn't mean that their cream is high quality. It doesn't

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mean anything about that. It just means that, you know,
they're acceptable.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Well, I mean, yeah, there's just a common sense.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Of it would just be interesting. Yeah, it would just
be interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Kind that's happening right now on my other on my
other screen, I'm watching League of Legends World Championships, and
they have a play ins where all of the like
non main regions have to like fight to get into Worlds.
They almost never top eight, like they get bodied by
the fourth seed and they're the number one seed from Brazil.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Well, in Call of Duty, it happened too. There was
a South American team during Black Ops two and they
had one of the weirdest strats that you could ever
think of. They had one person running a gun, the
other three running riot shields on hard Point. They're playing

(01:25:14):
hard Point with three riot shields and somebody running out
around with a shotgun and it's absolute cheese. But at
the same time, they didn't have anything, like their skill
wasn't at the same level, so they're like, let's try
and do it differently and see if it works. That's
why that shit is so interesting to me, is like
the meta gaming of it all. That's why I found

(01:25:36):
your channel back in the day, was like how do
I use this or that? Because I don't want to
use the same shit every single fucking day it gets
fucking boring.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Well, I was just like a deep game sense that
no one else knew about at the time. Yeah, I
was actually olaising, not just like doing punk shit.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
And it's funny. I see one thing quoted against you
and it's like heavy slam lailord and it's like, motherfucker,
when you put out a thousand videos about each individual Pokemon,
what the fuck do you expect even if you fucked
up one thing, which I don't need to fuck that up.
I know that that's what the second half of the

(01:26:16):
sentence mattered there. I don't think you did. That's a
pretty damn good fucking percentage. Ninety nine point nine percent
is pretty fucking effective. I don't think you fucked it up.
But I think it's funny that everybody hangs on fucking
heavy slam whalelord as a what the fuck is this?
I don't get it. I don't. I don't understand why

(01:26:36):
everybody's so brain dead that they're like hurd or at this.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
The whalelord is that it's not even like an oh,
I'm making the most useless Pokemon. I'm just trying to
find something for it. It's actually just a straight game
IQ check. If you think it's bad, you actually know
shit about Pokemon and you need my content more than
anyone else.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Well, your content to me was like, okay, so you
want to use this, These are the ways you can
use this. This is the different levels of how you
can use this thing to do this thing. And that's
about all that's good for. It's not rocket science to
see that's exactly what you were doing. You're putting Pokemon
in rolls and then trying to fit the Pokemon to

(01:27:16):
the role that you expected them to be in and
then sometimes changed your mind mid video and showcased a
different one that you put together literally within that second.
That's not hard. That should be the ship that everybody
wants to go and enjoy. Regardless. It's not hard, it's
not complicated. It's fucking stupidity. Uh so you sent me

(01:27:41):
a screen grab or a Twitter message about the Ocean
Gate submarine? What what the fuck was that?

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
It was mostly just kind of like wow, the uh
brain rot and sub ninety IQ that's proliferating through some
social media where it showed like the back little triangle
cone part of it because the video was released and
people like I thought it imploded and it's just like
trying to like, do you like that is the peak

(01:28:14):
if you want to know how midwits operate and what
low IQ looks like, that is the peak explanation of
how it goes. Because they think that they figured out
something that everyone thought that's counter to the narrative when
just like the most explainable shit possible where it's like, yes,
the rest of it imploded, but the part that wasn't
pressurized didn't implode because it was already at that pressure.

(01:28:37):
It's why you can find a bottle. If it's an
open bottle, it's not going to crumple.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
Or you know, more logic for all of these retards.
But there's a there's a very very very big one
that a lot of people just genuinely won't understand. If
somebody throws a grenade, you know, you still can find
fragments of it. Is it really that complex? It doesn't
get appear to nothing nothing. If it does appear to

(01:29:03):
everything doesn't turn to nothing. Yeah, exactly, everything turns into something.
Even if it's dust, there is bits of it left.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Well. The weird thing about grenade is its shaped that
way because each of those parts becomes a bullet, those
little squares. That's not to look cute for texture or anything.
That's actually the function of the grain is to send
that square at you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Yeah, you know, the entire military isn't a bunch of
fucking swingers. The wives might be, but they're not a
bunch of swingers. They're not gonna turn every single thing
into upside down pineapples and say, oh my god, look
at how cool we are. They literally had a reason
for it. That's why it shaped like a pineapple.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
So just to cop point that where I was just like, wow,
that's a lot of people that when I thought it imploded,
and then the fellow midwit's gang together. It's like someone
sees that. It's like, yeah, I thought it imploded too,
this guy's right, and then they just dn' pc it out.
So I just wanted to kind of bring that up
where it's like, wow, I was weird.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Andn you guys return my my Xbox three sixty controller.
I know it's a cheap one, but I need it back. Okay,
So you had a great fucking topic that I felt
was great to end the show on, and uh, it
is choosing your seat. It is right here.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
I wanted to do the Coca Cola thing before that,
but that's also because choosing the seats political, it kind
of all ties together. So yeah, they CoA cold boycott.
You say something about that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Okay, let me grab all the article.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
Yeah, because pretty much like you can run it through
and I've got like one sentence. I typed out because
I was waiting for my COMMI friend to like say that,
like be like, can you believe the people are getting
upset over the coca cold thing? So I had like
a rebuttal ready, but we can throw it on the show.
It's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
So I don't know exactly where they're doing this. It
looks like a vending machine, but it seems like Coca
Cola is allowing you to print names and stuff on
cans like they always have, but now they're allowing you
to choose what's on them.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
And also like that's website portal as well or something.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
It says Coca Cola machine refusing to print the name.
So I don'tsarily know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Now, but I think it's like how you get custom
emin m's and shit, so you could.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
Also exactly that's that's where I saw. It was something
similar to that. So back in the day, you used
to be able to find your name, share a coke
with blah blah blah, and everybody thought it was cool
to just you know, meme and put it up there.
So now I guess in Coca Cola machines or custom
cokes or whatever, they're allowing you to print your name

(01:31:30):
or print anything that you type on the cans. And
when you give this the Internet, you know, fucked up
and weird shit happens, and we find every single little
thing that you're not allowed to say. Like remember remember
back in the day and cod for or a mono
refere to where you couldn't put a sault rifle because
it had ass in it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
So yeah, you couldn't put a salt, I mean because
it had ass.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
So I think Pokemon names got censored in generation five.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Uh there was a specific it might be for alligated,
but I'm not positive. But no, it was like the
base name. What are the names you couldn't put on
the jail?

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
It was a proligator, but it was the base name
of a folkus.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Yeah, so they are not They're allowing names like Allah
say and Satan, but when you put Jesus on it,
you receive an error message saying, sadly, we cannot automatically
allow this text on a can. So that's, you know,
the religious half of it. But there's also more I

(01:32:30):
saw yesterday that they went through and made it that way.
You could put Kamala on the can, but you could
not put Trump twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Yeah, it's there's these shitty examples of this where like
you ask chat GPT what happened, It's like I can't
talk about political figures, and then you ask about Kamala
and it's like Kamala is an incredible hero to the
everything community. But pretty much my take was, like you
can tell how clearly racist or like race biased it is,

(01:33:04):
and how targeted it is. They want to destroy white
Western Christian values, So.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
It looks like the name you've requested is not approved.
Names and phrases may not be approved if they are
trademarked political in nature, names of countries, celebrities, religious figures,
as well as anything that could be considered offensive for
other reasons. Oftentimes a name might be accepted if you
had a last name to the submission. However, Harrison Walls
twenty twenty four displayed the same error message. Contrary to

(01:33:36):
some claims on social media, the site also blocked phrases
such as Trump Vance twenty twenty four, White House and
President of the United States, but does not block trump
hyphen vance, but does block trump vance similarity Harris.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Hash much like how can one and then you can
get away with you? So like there's there's cheats for
you can tell like what the default band list is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
And it's interesting they allowed Tim Walls and jd Vance,
but do not allow Donald Trump, Kamalis Harrik, Kamala Harris,
or Joe Biden. It doesn't allow Jesus Allah, Democrat Republican
Twitter or X and that honestly, I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
The thing was it was allowing Allah but not Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
That two different things. I couldn't. I couldn't tell you.
I didn't try it myself. Let me let me see
if I can go to Coca Cola's website and try
it and see.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Well, now that's probably been patched in some kind of
crazy way, but the initial one is like maybe they
meant to ban those things, they want to keep it
all banned, but those aren't the ones on their mind.
Whoever's programming that's like okay, no Trump, okay, no Jesus,
no God, no whatever. And then like other people put in,
it's like, oh, yeah, we forgot alla because it's on
the back of their mind to not target whites first.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
So funny thing, the direct link is now down for
technical difficulties.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
Yeah, like of course that that's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
Yeah, no, no, they wouldn't take down the site to
hide what they were doing. Not a problem at all.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
Guy, Mean when like you could see the clear division
where it's like identity politics are allowed through conservative values
are not. They're saying the quiet part out loud through
their actions. It's it's equality is about targeting one group
and tearing down their values, and it's exposed through Coca
Cola all things. That's where ratt in twenty twenty four.
And that's all I had to say.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
It's just it's so interesting. So, my boy, you sent
me this and I actually thoroughly like it as a conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
It is a brilliant conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
To me, there is only two places to sit on
this entire map, and in the actual video feed of this,
I'm going to make this bigger so that way you
guys can see it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
But so we're all sitting on a plane. All these
people are still on the plane, but you have to
decide where your seat is going to be and who
you want to talk to and interact with. To me,
there's two choices. Where where would your two choices be?
I think this is very straightforward. Yeah, you got to
give me two choices.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
I was I was the only thing like man, maybe
there's actually I can see two now three. But my
first one was like, I'm only sitting at number one
cause I think would be hilarious. Yeah, but my second
pick would be number five because I I want to
talk fly fishing with Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
See, and I had one also, so I'll choose. I'll
choose a different one. I think number two would be interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Like, I actually like the worst thing that could happen
at number one is that like you just say something
like even if you don't believe it, just say something
Missoges and you get free alcohol. He'll buy your drink. Yeah,
guaranteed exactly. That's that's that's a fine flight.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
Honestly, if you're sitting in number one, this is probably
a very high scale, up level flight. You're probably on
a private jet or something.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Like supposed to be public. This is the exact plane. Yeah,
you are on. You are on a Boeing flight that's
about to go down, and this is the exact lineup.
You're not anywhere special to me.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
Number two, if you want to have a very very
in depth conversation, would be a rather interesting place to be.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
Anything productive or intelligent could come from sitting next to critical.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
But Joe Rogan being next to him, he pulls the
best out of absolutely everybody so interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
With each other. To even converse, they'd be fighting the
entire time. You couldn't get a word in.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
And you all know what would be another great place
that I would contemplate sitting number eight.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Nah, Yeah, I think that gun dude isn't interesting enough.
And Alex Jones like he's got the aisle seat. I
don't like that. I don't trust it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
Yeah, but that's where two comes in. If you want
an aisle seat, two is by far the best choice
for an aisle seat, mm hmm. If you want a
window seat is probably the best choice for it's the
only choice for or that other than one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
No, man, Like, I'm down with having the window seat
if it means Tate makes fun of me for having
to piss.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Nah, he'll call you a He'll be like, why you
got a fucking dog collar on?

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Got me to put a leash on you and walk
you later? You would you would be relentless, you know you,
you would be you would be hitting on all cylinders.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Like the thing is like Alex, A conversation with Alex
Jones not on the plane be pretty good, but having
to like talk across just some average dude that looked
good cool at the Olympics, I don't think that makes it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
I think that average dude at the Olympics makes this
that way. It's you know, normal and could be a
conversation anywhere. A conversation with Joe Rogan is always going
to go to the most extreme nuanced part of the conversation,
So Charlie's weird deadpan humor would be really kind of

(01:38:58):
interesting to see. I don't think he flips Joe Rogan
into being some weird, disconnected person. That's why I think
that that one wins. Who's that third dude in in
Tate Throw? Is that the dude from the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
I don't even know. I just I'm just thinking, like
I just have Andrew Tate by Madrid.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
Okay, that's fine. Yeah, that was my point is I
don't know who the third person is. It looks like
Christian Bale, but it also looks like the dude from
UFA Wall Street and I'm not positive, so I could
be absolutely retarded. I just don't consume enough media to
know who the fuck it is.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
Yeah, like I said, like number five is only uh
talk talking to Tucker Carlson about fly fishing because it's
such a slept on art. It's hard to find people
that appreciate five fly fishing man ties his own flies.
He also fly fishes for bess. That's another thing, like
no one does even though it's very flyfish before. It's
see that's what I mean. But like nah flys. Flyfishing

(01:39:53):
is peak, especially when you make your own flies, and
only only me and Tucker understand that. But uh, the
problem is if food's asleep, you just got to pitch
yourself or you got like piss into the cup or something.
You wake him up, you're dead. Yeah, you bother him.
It's over.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
And it's funny. This is such a you know, response
bait question when number six is literally Taylor Swift and
fucking Hassan, how many the majority of people choose that number?
Garren fucking teed all of the less these choose number
six or number ten. There's only two choices for them

(01:40:28):
all together. It's number six or number ten, and that's
Hillary Clinton and Epstein. It's just interesting because this is
such a like political conversation, but it's also a conversation
of who you are as a human, you know, a
true centrist. Would you want to sit in three?

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
That's the perfect w.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Yeah, it's it's thoroughly interesting. Number nine is a no
go at all. Elon and uh Boxer that bay or
may not be trans entire conversation shit.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
But then like there's gonna be dude, bros, They're just like, okay,
ignore the Boxer. I just want to talk in fts
with Elon. No.

Speaker 1 (01:41:10):
But I don't know. When I'm sitting in a row
of something or something like that, I feel like I
have to integrate everybody into the conversation so they're not
left out.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
That's why the Elon one isn't like, oh everyone's engaging.
It's just like how much can you suffer through that
other person kind.

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
Of idea exactly. But now you understand why I picked
the two that I picked, don't you? Because I'm like, oh,
all three of us have to be a part of
the conversation. Those two are by far the easiest ones
to have the conversations with.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
And then for us, like if the only choice was
sitting between Hassan and Taylor Swift, like I'd actually just
take my chances jumping out, you know, Like point zero
one percent of the people survive that like that, But
then there's other people that just would live for that seat.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
You know, I don't understand Hassan's entire you know, grift
and not just his policies or his political ideology. But
I don't understand him, like as a creator at all.
You know, I understand sitting there having conversations with people
about things that are going on, Absolutely understand it. I
don't understand his political ideology. But how how can you

(01:42:21):
be so diluted in what you see as a person,
to be so aggressive but also so non emotional at
all ever, in any conversation that your feelings get hurt
but you have no emotion when they get hurt. He
whins and cries about absolutely everything and then calls everybody
a stupid feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
You know, Trump is to defend any of his positions,
so he only has reactions for other idiots.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
It's true. It makes me It's like he's don't.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
Understand you either are an idiot that likes a song
or you're a smart, normal, rational person that knows He's
just not worth anyone's time in any discussion, in any capacity.
It's worthless.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
It's just it's so fucking stupid. Do you have my
story list? That way, I can just be told one
to tell my mouse is dying, and I don't want
to walk away from the PC.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
I'll grab it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
Well done, but yeah, no, it's just stupid, Like I
don't understand exactly why all this shit happens. There we
go and click this button like I don't. I just
I don't understand why so many people kind of hype

(01:43:42):
or focus on people like that, like after you reach
twenty k or something incurring. You know, that's got to
be a fucking weird place to be, especially when it's
such a you know, complete and out and out fucking
fuck fest of the of the same ideology every single
person sabers.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
Or debate bros. Like it's not worth the brain cells.
It's not engaging or commentating on because everyone already knows
their thoughts on it. Almost having your toe cut.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
Off, okay, so yep, I got it. Turn my mouse
back off. That way I can actually on the show
without getting up. So I developed an ingrown toenail pretty badly,
and I didn't really realize.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
I was expecting it to go or it's just like
almost got a tout off. I dropped a rock on it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
No, it gets worse. So I ended up developing an
ingrown tonail. And I didn't realize it at first. It
just hurt to walk. You know, you don't really pay
attention to those things. You cut your nails once once
a week, and you kind of just keep up with things.
And I guess I cut it at one point and
it kind of like hooked into my toe and it
just grew into my foot. So at this time, I'm

(01:44:57):
working out subway and I'm just working through and working through,
and I started bleeding through my sock. I'm like, this
is that the nail, I guess grew underneath itself and
curled all the way into the into the center of
my toe. It was like my toe was being cut
in half by my nail.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
H ah ah ah ah ah ah ah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
And I'm sitting here working all day every day on
it and not really paying attention. And it got bad.
It got it got rather bad. So my girlfriend at
the time was like, you have to go to the pediatrist.
I'm like, I thought only people into the pediatrist. I
don't know what I'm doing. So she sets up the

(01:46:04):
appointment and we end up going and I sit down.
They're like, that's really bad. You need to come with us.
I'm like, what the fuck I need to come with you.
They're like yes. So they walk me over to the
X ray machine and they're like, we're gonna take X
rays of your foot. There's a chance you're losing your toe.
We're possibly part of your foot today. We just want

(01:46:25):
you to be aware and everything else, Like, fuck, what
the fuck is going I'm losing part of my foot today.
I didn't want to even fucking be here, Like my
toe is being cut in half. That's the only reason
I'm fucking here. And uh, they saw a sack that
was the size of my toe. The entire bottom of
my toe was essentially an infection sack. And they're like,

(01:46:47):
if this went into your actual foot, there's a chance
you go saptick and die. Yeah, they're like inches inches
of growth in any way of this. You lose a toe,
you lose a foot, you die. And those are the
only three choices. And so they start putting me under
with novacaine and stuff like that because they don't put

(01:47:09):
you to sleep for any of this shit. They put
up like this little it was like a dentist chair.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
So they have me lean back and I'm sitting there
playing my playing my game but my ds I was
playing I think it was Pokemon black and White. And
I'm all leaning back and shit, and my ex wife
is sitting there cackling like a fucking hyena because she
thinks it's hilarious that anytime she's nervous, she just laughs,

(01:47:34):
like it's complete incorrect behavior, but it's just what she does.
So we're going through, we're dealing with all this shit,
dealing with all this ship, and all of a sudden
they're like, okay, well this is all done and taking
care of I'm like fuck, so I wrap. They wrap
up my foot and take care of it. And they

(01:47:57):
go through and they're like, okay, so this, this and this.
You have soak your foot twice a day, make sure
it's clean and everything else. And my toe was like
the size of my fucking fist because they wrapped it
up like two or three times in not alcoholic wrap,
athletic wrap. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna squeeze it in
my shoes because I my feet are super super sensitive

(01:48:19):
from all the now, from all the surgeries and everything
else I've had on them, but they're just super sensitive.
So I always have shoes on. I always have socks on,
something to cover my feet. And I'm like, I'm going
back to being normal. So I wrapped my foot. I
wrapped my foot in my sock, and I had the
DC sneakers, which have the elastic band in them for skating,

(01:48:41):
so it like holds them closed almost. So I wrapped
my shoe around my foot. I walk outside and my
mom's like, Okay, come on, we got a funeral to
go to, so I prepare myself. We go to this
funeral and I'm sitting there saying goodbyes to my aunt
and uh no, I was about to get ready to

(01:49:02):
say goodbye to my aunt and my mom was in
the line in front of me. Somebody behind me called
my mom and she turned around, and I guess I
was a little too close to my mom. She steps
all of her weight on my toe, my surgically repaired foot.
She just put all four hundred and fifty five hundred
pounds of her weight on it. And I've never almost

(01:49:24):
swung at somebody without thinking before in my life. So
hard I went and I just like it was shocked.
It was like going immediately in shock, immediately out of shock,
and it was the worst pain I've ever felt up
into that point. It was just like my foot got
crushed and I'm just like, ah Ugh, I'm okay, Mom,

(01:49:45):
you just stepped all my surgically repaired doe and I'm
not okay. Use goat to Arms. You have to check out.
We'll see ifuck it next time.

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