Voodoo’s Impact on Natural Disasters & Wings of Redemption Fired | RMTS Ep. 158 - RMTS Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Or someone just like, Hey, I think I'm haunted because
our grandma voodoo practitioner died of a heart attack. We
took in one of her like little totems, and now
like shit's going down in the house. Like I think
evil energy in that way, especially when doing like sacrifices
and get bones and carvings and shit, you can carry
that energy beyond death. And that's but then like a

(00:20):
rand like and also like what are the odds a
random femal worker stumbles into a voodoo shack, so like
voodoo common practice and hate I hate that there's no
coincidences in the world or like time as a flat circle,
or maybe that proves we live in the simulation that
as all this like Haitian migrant nonsense is going on,
there's a specific reference. It's like I believe they're cat bones.

(00:42):
They didn't have to say that, they could have just
said bones. But this guy's like I would bet that
this voodoo practitioner had cat bones in their thing. This
is coming out during a Katrina story after we have
the Haitian migrant story. Yeah, nah, I don't. That's spookier
than the voodoo too.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
And we're good boys it's been way too long. I've
been struggling very, very heavily, and I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Let's go We're already going negative, Like I mean, I'm
gonna break that rule with one of our stories as well,
with what's going on with the hurricane and voodoo and
people dying and shit, that sad episode.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Let's go not trying to go negative. We're gonna look
at the interesting parts of this. But obviously I do
have to be understanding with myself, like I'm trying to
go through hell right now, so as a whole, I
want to turn that into a positive thing. So first off,
check out our merch subscribe like go do all the
podcast stuff. Check out the merch, checkout g fuel, use
card rmts to check out so before I miss any

(01:47):
of that. Second off, there is a new podcast starting
right I think we're filming at tomorrow that is starting
about grief, mental illness, mental health and all of that
stuff to help people with those things. And fifty percent
of the ad rev and all rev from that show
will be given to charity, whether that's a mental health
charity or a grief charity for people that are dealing

(02:09):
with these things. Every single time something gets paid out,
whether that's a sponsor or ad rev or whatever, fifty
percent of that will be going to charity every single
time we get paid. So that's not a realistify thing.
But I wanted to make sure that everybody kind of
knew about it because I am going through hell, but
that hell doesn't need to be everywhere. That hell doesn't
need to be rubbed in everybody's face.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
So real men understand their emotions.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, not only that it's grief is such a weird
thing to kind of look at with it not being like, oh,
I'm depressed and sad, it's like, okay, well, any of
these emotions are normal, okay, so why are we having
any conversation at all? Then if everything's normal and nothing
is different, then nobody is unique. Nobody is different if
everything's gray. So I want to be able to bring

(02:56):
like obviously things that I've dealt with and stuff like that,
look back at it and like hindsight and be like, well,
this is how I should have handled it, or this
is how anybody should have handled this kind of break
it down like a more analytical kind of way, so
way people can kind of deal with grief. For trying
to improve themselves in a better way.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I learned that radical acceptance is powerful, even though it
just sounds like a weird thing on the surface, Like no,
there's worth into digging into that and like sorting out emotions.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
It's hard. It's hard to come with hard grasp everything
is okay, Oh, this is all okay, everything's fine. It's
like no, now, it's really not.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
It's definitely there's definitely a balance because there's you get
too deep in your emotions and you're fucked, or you
ignore everything in you're fucked.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well. I looked at my co host who ended up
being my godmother. So it's gonna be an interesting conversation
because I'll be able to have like the older kind
of wise person look back at things that I saw
as four or five years old or fifteen years old,
and kind of have the transparency of both possible outcomes
and conversations. So that's kind of interesting. But it's hard.

(04:06):
It's hard because I coming out of this after after
the baby passed, I was like, Okay, you know what
I need to do something. I felt I just felt
like I needed to help people because it was going
to be the way to get through this because there
is already so much fucking negativity in the world. I
didn't want more of it.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Hundop, so.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Starting it off semi sad, But I want to build
something that is actually.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Carry that energy because I'm tired as fuck right now.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm Batman. So how long have you been playing DDR today?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh? Like, yeah, so I've been playing DDR just in
general since for over twenty years, Like I started in
like two thousand and two thousand and one, and I'm
a fucking mad lad at DDR. But I haven't played
much because my friend that I usually go to DDR
with has got him shaken, shaken everything.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
You're still hyper.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Code for spy or RNTSG fuel. I had like one
and a half of these before before DDR and fucking
crushed it. And that's that's the thing. I went too
hard that you you quit at fifty and then I
went to failure like four times. We we we had
a yeah, that was two hour long, like hard boss
song session. I like, because I haven't done in a while,

(05:20):
so I'm just tired from that. But DDR is awesome.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I definitely wasn't your level, but I had a d
DR pad at home, like one of the everyone and
I loved that game. That in Guitar Hero was one
of those games that you just remember which game you had.
I don't. It was for PS two.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
There's there's Max Max two, Supernova, Supernova two, and probably
some other super nova. I believe Superno is the dog
shit one. Unlucky I can.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I can remember it.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Max is the classic.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
I believe it's the first thing that comes up on Google.
I was trying to see if I could find anything
at all that was like a.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Specific yea, even back then, I would have.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Even been dance factory where you could like put your
own music on it or something.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Even back then, I was super sweaty about it because
I didn't have just like the regular pad. I had
the one hundred dollars like foam pad that was pretty
close to an actual like arcade pad that was really Yes.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
If I if I remember correctly, which I might not be,
it looks like, hold on, this is the bass pad
that I had, probably the same one everybody had, but
I'm trying to make sure I don't, you know, show
off the wrong fucking tad. So this is the one
I had. I assume that that's kind of.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
The Yeah, pink and blue. Every fucking person had it
because it came bundled with the DDR bundle.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, I think I didn't even have DDR itself, if
I just if I remember correctly, it was just the
one that I just brought up. You played Dance Dance Factory, Yeah,
and you had an ability to like upload your own
songs and shit like that. It's fun, but you know,
not the.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Great longtime fans know I'm pretty good at it, and
some have even seen me play at like conventions and stuff.
It's nice. I'm not like Triple A tournament worthy, but
I can do on a good day. I can do
with seventeen. Okay, not a good day now, like my
current state is sixteen's but like peak was seventeen.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
So did you see the shit that's going on with Wings? No?
I no. You said you've been tired and you've been burnout.
So I figured out out, No.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's burnt, it's not burnout, it's my energy is elsewhere
because I'm working on New World, because they're relaunching New
World and I already like love that mmo. So I've
been playing hundreds of hours of New World in like
the last two weeks and just making dozens of well
not dozens, I'm trying to get to like thirty forty
videos for release.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Are they not changing any of the content, They're just
releasing it again essentially.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Is that what they're doing because they've already changed the
content because the game launched sucked because dupes and bugs
and glitches, so it went from a million current players
like five thousand, and then no one gave it a
second chance. The game right now is worth a second chance,
and people should be playing it right now because the
they did like all these expansions and stuff, but the
relaunch is to make people realize they should be playing

(08:13):
it right now.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Is it to the level of like No Man Sky,
where that game was like dead on arrival and then
kind of after a year or two it kind of jumped.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
New World was good when it was good when it launched.
They just need to wipe the servers because like billions
were duped and all the rare items and everything got unstable,
and then PvP like half the not half, but a
lot of the game is PvP because you like fight
over towns and then you collect taxes on the towns
you win. But everyone's doing PvP exploits where you like
flip the lag switch doing in vulnerability glitch. Oh, now

(08:45):
your clan is worse because they're the cheaters and everything
got fucked. So they fixed that slow, like it took
three months, which is way too long, and then they
did a couple of game updates that like were quality
of life and gear score and indgame oriented. So like
February twenty twenty two, New World was great, but by
then ninety nine percent players left. But like you have

(09:06):
gone back in anytime.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
All time peak. It's almost at a million, which is crazy,
but from an hour ago about five thousand. Yeah, so
it's still it's doing something. In the last thirty days,
it's gained seven percent and.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Then into the first big update, which like added a
new region. I think they had like fifteen twenty thousand.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, no, it it looks like it's growing, which is
kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Year it's relaunching in a week.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, but after gaining two hundred percent October of twenty
twenty three, it died again until about September, and now
it's up thirty one percent again, so that's interesting. It's
not like it's just dying completely. It's kind of having
random spikes when.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
You're well, that's across the world. There's probably like two
thousand people playing on NA servers right now across like
eight servers, so it's pretty dead.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, but I'm happy what the game.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I think the game like after it got over its problems,
like all they had to do was like they should
have just been like, okay, we're relaunching now like December
twenty twenty one, where they're just like we're sorry, we
got to wipe. We're going to try to get your
trust back huge updates. But they took so long because
like there's this main thing in the game where you
defeat corruption breaches or like corruption portals, but you couldn't

(10:19):
do that because the game the item to close the
portal was bugged for a month and that was literally
the entire thing the game was based around, and it
took a month to fix un launch, So it's like, nah,
you needed a longer beta, you needed it Amazon Game
Studio first, like major MMO release. They fucked it hard.
But now it's like, Okay, this is what New World

(10:39):
should have been and is, and it's great and I'm
hoping the relaunch kind of like holds that five hundred
k concurrent.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, it sounds a lot like I know you don't
play Call of Duty all the time, but Call of
Duty World War Two started off very, very different from
a normal Call of Duty game. You had to pick
a class and then you had a certain perks that
I gave you and stuff like that. And about like
seven eight months into its life cycle, they redid the
entire game, just changed the entire way the entire game

(11:06):
work and made it back to original Call of Duty.
If you go back and play modern work World War
Two now, it is such a better game than it
was at launch, and it's crazy, like drastically different. You know,
most people didn't go back. Most people didn't try to.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
The fear like you get one chance and then instead,
which is weird. Why No Man's Sky came back so
hard because that game launched horribly. I will I will
never play it again. I will never forgive Sean Murray
for his handling of that. No Man's Life fucked me
forever on that. I'm not I'm pissed the game God
Revival and other games haven't.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well there there's another big game that I guess just
completely crashed. That one for PlayStation Concording like that, yeah,
conquered that. They essentially just said, okay, we're we're calling
every single game that was released. So people are trying
to find examples of hard bisks because they wanted to.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Four million flop because it got too woke cool.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Just interesting to see something flop so heavily, even you
know when.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, even you could see like no one knew Concord existed,
and then it was like, oh, it just launched bad
and it was just awful and doom from the start.
No Man's Sky had all that hype coming into it.
I bought a PS four just for No Man's Sky. Fortunately,
I remember it.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
I remember back in the day, Remember like how many
stupid fucking games there were for every every fucking console.
Every animated movie got its own individual game, every.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Kind of of video games.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Got its own video game. Now, all of a sudden,
you have video games that are billions of dollars just dying,
and it's like, how the fuck did this entire landscape
change this drastic? It's crazy. Those games should have died.
They should have died. Who bought those games? People's grandma,
that's like, oh, look I got you a video game
for Christmas. Meanwhile, you didn't want Corvette. You've had fucking

(13:03):
four copies of it because everybody's like, oh, look Corvettes.
They like those.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I mean, that's the fun thing about game grum, where
it's like, oh, another Wii game that you just never
knew existed. Whorts like there's Weal a Fortune on the
Xbox or the Wei uh cool, So they find all
kinds of weird shit and that's fun. Yeah, what happened
with wings?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Uh? Before that? Did you know that there's a third
we Sports? There's Resports, which is one of the largest
games of all times.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Wait, waits Sports? I know they did switch Sports. Yeah,
so there's WE Sports WE Sports Resort, and then.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Then one of the smallest selling games of all time
that cost you two dollars a day to use. Nintendo
fluffed the entire fucking bag. After having two of the
largest game launches ever in WE Sports and WE Sports Resort.
Then they released WE Sports Club on the WIU, and
if you bought it digitally you had to pay two

(14:02):
dollars a day for every day you wanted to use it.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
That doesn't make it Why how.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I don't fucking know? And it flopped. It ended up
releasing games digitally. Yeah, but it released with two games
bowling and I believe tennis at the start. Then after
they made a hard disk launch, then updated to five games.
But if you bought it digitally on the WIIU itself,
you had to pay two ninety nine in order to

(14:28):
be able to play it every day that you played it.
It sounds stupid.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Why did they set up a subscription for fucking care?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah? Okay, so Wings, so obviously you remember the pKa
camping trip right, yeah, back in the days. So the
first camping trip that they wanted to do, Wings got
all excited and was like, oh, guys, guys, we're going
to go on a camping trip and everything else. He
called Lefty a pussy so many fucking times. That's where

(14:58):
you know, the joke of Lefty being in a wheel
chair came from, because he's like, you know, I'm just
in a wheelchair, Guys, I don't want to go on
a camping trip. That's not my scene. He's like, you're
a pussy. Then the day of the camping trip, Wings
looks and says, guys, I'm not coming. As Kyle's driving
from Georgia all the way up to North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
We're all, like the whole thing about Wings started where
it's like he's going to back out. He actually has
no commitment. He gets scared of everything.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Cool, so he ends up backing out and the next
week they release PK and they're like, Wings is no
longer with us. Lefty is now brought in as a
full time host. We are not doing this. Goodbye Wings.
Fuck you. That's where the whole ten thousand dollars thing
came from. That's where he came with the whole they

(15:45):
fucked me over. They finally started making money and they
got rid of me, which all of it has different
levels of you know, logic behind it, but you know
they're all Wings isms. So now he's on a podcast
called Local Life where he him and Boogie do a
podcast with Keemstar as out of a combination of those

(16:06):
three people are but they're like, you know what, We're
going to do a camping trip this weekend about three
weekends ago, and they had a essentially a four or
five hour live stream each day where they did things physical,
labor wise and stuff and everything else. One of the

(16:27):
largest shows on YouTube at the time, fucking huge. The
first day they're sitting there chopping wood and fucking around
and the car.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Panting trip just like Keem's backyard.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
It absolutely was in Keem's backyard, yes, but they they
were sleeping on camera and stuff like that, so it's
not like they were fucking around, but they were fucking around.
So they chop wood and everything else. They're doing physical exertion,
and Wings crashes, like he starts dealing with a whole
bunch of chest pain and everything else, and everybody's like,

(17:00):
Wings is faking it again. Wings is faking it again.
He goes to the er and he gets diagnosed with
a goll bladderstone and goal bladder attacks and stuff like that,
and they're like, hey, we got to take this out
now so you don't have any problems. That's why you're

(17:20):
having the problems. Let's take care of the problems where
you no longer have a problems with your pancreas, you
no longer have problems with your call bladder. Let's take
care of all of it. So he's like, no, I'm
going home, and instead of this is day one, they
have a three day camping trip. Day two, he's in

(17:41):
the hospital. He's out of the hospital, gets removed, told
that he can go back. He stays in a hotel
for one night and then leaves on day three. They
they had no contact with him from the time he
was in the hospital until he came back home in Conway,
South Carolina. In this time, Boogie was shot with paintball guns.

(18:05):
Boogie buried himself alive, and they held seven thousand concurrent
viewers for a podcast live stream where they were camping
in Keem's backyard. Boogie, the person that everybody is so
afraid of will never be able to do anything in
his life. He actually got out of his house and
did something.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, because there's like that whole stigma was it Boogie
with like his stomach surgery, where like he just kept
pushing that off for years and kept backing out of
that and he eventually got it. But like that was
one of the things, was like Wings and Boogie, they
just get scared of everything. But now Boogie's actually, like
I think Boogie's realized if he doesn't do these things,
he's on the streets, he has no prospects whatsoever. But

(18:48):
he's like committing and getting shit done, which is weird.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
There's a weird dichotomy to it like when Lin Loko started.
He did something fucked up and Keim told him, Hey,
I have to pay the price because you fucked up.
So he crawled on his hands and knees and put
an overlay over top of him that turned him into
a cow and was apologizing to Keemstar and making everybody

(19:13):
feel bad for him. When he faked cancer. They made
him shave off his eyebrows and he held a sign
out in the middle of the public, throw water balloons
on me because I fake cancer like they're doing. They're
doing different things with po that's correct, Yeah, and he
and he's holding himself to it, which is really interesting.
So that's where this gets interesting. So Keem comes back

(19:35):
to Conway, South Carolina on Sunday. They're wrapping up their
final part of the live stream. They're getting ready to
head home and stuff like that. Two o'clock in the morning,
Wings of Redemption turns on his stream to one hundred
and fifty two hundred people and he tells everything nobody's

(19:57):
been told, what's going on with Wings Why wings To
appeared other than he was in the er, and nobody
thought it was serious. Everybody thought it was bullshit. So
he starts to stream up, and he streams to one
hundred and fifty two hundred people and tells everything that
happened the entire time when nobody knew anything. He's like, well,

(20:19):
I made two hundred dollars, turns off the stream. Stream
next day starts local live, Wings is fired, team starts
up to stream. He's like, guys, I told Wings to
do one thing when he got home. I didn't care
if it was two o'clock in the morning or you know,
nine o'clock the next morning. Whatever. The first stream you

(20:41):
do is on this channel because we get six thousand
fucking viewers every single time we go live. You do
it here. Let's make us money with the things that
are happening to us, because that's what we're supposed to do.
He's like, you stream to two hundred people, made two
hundred dollars. Me bitching about you has made three hundred

(21:03):
and fifty dollars in the past twenty minutes. These things
are not the same.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
How is he such a fuck up? How's he ruined
so many opportunities? When I'm here still canceled by the
Pokemon community, I'd fucking do anything.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
So my ballsy ass saw them go live and saw
that Wings was fired, and I was like, Kim, I
want the spot. This motherfucker had the balls to offer
me a price. What price do you think he put
on Wings's head like to do what to take the

(21:41):
entire spot from Wings? It was my pipe, like the
price of his head. Like that's a weird way of phrasing.
I guess, uh, well, the price of his job. Yeah, okay, yeah,
so what what do you think Kim offered me price wise?
I'm one, it's yours.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
See, I'm oh like pay to get in okay, because
I was like I was.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Saying, for ownership, it becomes twenty percent, thirty percent mine.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Okay. That's interesting because I was like, oh, either I
thought this was like what Keem was paying Wings, and
it's either going to be like stupid high, like how
the fuck could you give it up? We're stupid low, like, oh,
Keem is just robbing Wings. But if it's for that slot,
I'm imagine Chem's overvowing it low cow probably worth six
like deep six figures to him, fifty K.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
One hundred k, he said, pay me one hundred k.
The spot is yours, it's your podcast. As I was
like ah, a little bit lower. Like I told him.
I was like, even if you want to make it
that way, I don't get paid for two months and
we renegotiate in two months.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, so like I get some of the income and
then we settle the numbers from that.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, yeah exactly. But I will I will literally sign
an agreement here, no pay in two months. I just
want to see what happens. And he's like, nah, man
an under K And I was like, oh, dude, it's
right there, and I would fucking love it, but I
was like, Nope, I'm not I'm not going to overstretch
myself to that point. But I was like, dude, he

(23:11):
put a number on it, and not like a crazy
number that's completely unbelievable, a number like if they're making
six to seven k, extreme one hundred k is a
year and a half worth two years worth of salary.
That's not crazy for thirty percent ownership, because that's buying
him out. Makes sense.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
He gets fired, but then there's a buyout to replace
a firing. That's how much confidence Chem has in local
because it's actually doing that great.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, so he re hired him because nobody paid for it.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
That that's kind of silly. But and then that's when
it's just like just let a better person in to
make more money and then give them their shot without
making them buy in.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Dude, do you know how good I would be on
that show just letting myself go with all the jokes
and shit like that. It would be fucking fun. It
would be a fucking blast.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
You I pushed you for that show first.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Oh yeah, I'm the lowcal of the Pokemon community.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I complete and honestly, I will say that publicly. Now,
I was supposed to have a meeting with Wings and
Boogie and Verlis was supposed to be the third host.
I pushed it. I pushed real fucking hard.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
But it is interesting because like that's what means, Like, oh,
Wings is pissing away all these opportunes when I'm like
the perfect seed for almost anything, because I'm the keemstar
of the Pokemon community. I'm the Wings of the Pokemon community.
I'm the ultimate little cow of the Pokemon community. You
just slought me in anywhere. I'd said, like, if me
and Showfu did a podcast, I don't care if we
hate each other for two hours a week, we would

(24:48):
have the most banging shit on the internet. But no
one wants to give me my flowers. No one wants
to make me have any publicity or any rise in
any capacity. CHOFU would rather leave that on the table
than make me have an income.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
And it's weird. It's honestly weird.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Hey, it's the craziest hate I think.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
I think if we look at them as like, hey,
whatever this show makes because you promote it and stuff
like that, for this week, it's yours. I just want
to throw that out there and see what the fuck
somebody does do You want to put the eyes on
something to show that somebody is different than what you
perceive them to be.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
That's what me I like. I do it for free.
I just do it for exposure, which is like that
wants who wants to hear me pop off? Yeah, who
wants to hear me pop off about cheating in Pokemon
with wings and boogie around me? And it's probably not
even It's going to get incoherent and I'm gonna look
like a fool. I'm gonna look like some fucking crazy person.
But at least someone hears my story and realizes, Okay,
rolis Flies not a racist Nazi. He's just retarded, and

(25:49):
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Like I saw I saw a comment on one of
our shorts and it was y'all need Jesus because the
title was something about furries blah blah.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah. Also, yeah, they could just pile me for being
a furry, and I'm just like, and it's like cheating
Pokemon's wrong. Guys.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
You really don't understand what life is, do you. You
are just as degenerate as less is. I'm just as
everybody is degenerate now in their own fucking way. What
the fuck are you on about? There's so much wrong urries.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
So like the lolly in that dude's folder is way
worse than anything I've got, exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
I agree. I'm just saying because they paint furry, is
this sexual thing always.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I mean, that's just like straight brain rot where it's
just like they see furry and then they're just like
you're less than me because of an internet subculture tag.
It's like everyone's fucking lost.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
It's like, dude, you I know what's fucking weird. All
the people that are bronies. Bronies are fucking weirder than ferries. Apple.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
That was the interesting thing because like early Internet subculture,
four Chan just made it to where like furries were
the lowest subclass in the entire Internet, and then around
twenty eleven twenty twelve started getting better for us. Like
a lot of the four Channers grew up and then
realize they have a lot of furry friends, and then
like we kind of rule all of big tech and stuff.

(27:11):
You know, like we're really these furries getting tens of thousands.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Part of it, you know what I'm saying, it a
weird part where it's like.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Wait, wait, where are these furries getting tens of thousands
of dollars to host orgies? And then just like have
fur suits and shit. It's like, oh wait, the furries
are generally successful and cool, and then behind the curtain
there's all that degeneracy and we might go too hard
on that because everyone's a fucking degenerate. So like then
like people start realizing like, eh, furries kind of weird,

(27:39):
but mostly just people. And I think the thing is
like furries also got really popular, so everyone ended up
knowing a furry. It's like, oh, my friend's a furry
and he's kind of cool, and he's kind of said
like yeah, there's something that out there that are horrible,
but most of us are just chill. So like what
I mean is like furries got good and then Broni's
took the heat off of us, and furries got like
it felt great being a furry. In twenty fourteen to fifteen,

(28:00):
it's like, oh wait, we're getting accepted. And then after
like twenty seventeen, once Leafy got killed, once social media
got like overly washed and censored, like twenty eighteen on,
it's been that cycle again where it's like, oh, now,
this is two thousand and nine, four chan eight on
default because every zuomer is an idiot with brain raw
and no one can be social with each other. But
there was a golden age of like twenty fourteen twenty

(28:21):
seventeen where furries were actually respected. It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I think there was a realization in that twenty twelve
twenty fourteen era that you're talking about where everybody's like, oh,
we love Halloween. We love when you know, girls dress
up like horror. So the one time of the year
that everybody's like, yes, this lingerie outside, yes, and it's

(28:44):
like okay, as a whole furriy do that all the time.
So then they started equating the two of like ears
and shit like that with non fur suit stuff, and
they still made fun of the fur suit stuff because
I don't think that that's ever stopped Halloween.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Like conventions and dress up had nothing to do with that.
I just think again, like people just like realize, like, oh,
we just straw manned an entire community, and eventually we
got to know furries and they're all right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I don't think that anybody thinks the people inside are bad.
I think they just know.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
There's a lot of people that actually think, like it's
it's atrocious. And I think the problem is it's also
very easy to find atrocious furry shit.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's also dehumanizing if you think about it, because you're
dehumanizing yourself almost.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Well, the problem is it's very easy to find that
as well. Furries are the worst pr for furries that
can't exist. You look twenty it was either twenty sixteen
or twenty seventeen Rain First. I was at twenty seventeen
Rain First, the one that got the con shot shut down.
I saw people shit their diapers in a hotel lobby
in front of kids. We deserve the hate. I don't

(29:50):
like that we're getting hated, but we deserve the hate.
I've seen like they fucking filled a bathtub with piss
and then leaked it over the their room. They plugged
uh the hot tubs with towels, so the hot tub
motor broke.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
So what's the thing is crazy level of degeneracy, Like
these people are fucked up. Yeah, they're just fuck ups.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
But the problem is it's it's a higher prevalence. Uh,
per capita is not good for furries. It doesn't work
out for us too well.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Well, honestly, it's not crazy to think of it that
way either. It's not crazy to be like, oh, well,
all of a sudden, per capita more more degenerate. No,
the more degenerate places you go, the more degenerate the
people are that are there. It's hard to believe that
those two things aren't correlated.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
No, No, it's actually like I would say, twenty five
percent of furries or horribly fucked up, and that's a two.
That's an uncomfortable amount of the community.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
And other than the crazy shit of dressing up in
a fur suit, you're not even the crazy level of furry,
which I think is the most interesting part that everybody's
like all furry mother different levels. He wears a dog
collar and talks about you know, right wing politics and
Pokemon and like jokes around like.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
I'm may understand Furrey. Yeah yeah, I'm the ninety ninth
percentile of normal furry and people are just like default, Well,
I heard furry so bad. I see for son of
profile pictures so bad. But like I said, we deserve
the hate. Just I'm not. I can't. It's like it's
one of this. It's like go here, search up specific term,
and then you immediately realize, oh, I'm going to dedicate

(31:38):
my life to hating the subculture off of like the
top three results. Just you see someone in a first
suit doing devious acts and you're just like, pitchforks and
fire please.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Or you look comes to why furryness, like furry people
and cause players aren't considered essentially the same thought process.
That's that to me is weird too. It's like you
have couse players who believe you're that character.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Well, it's because human role play is different than animal
role play, while fucking.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
True, but is it just because you're dehumanizing yourself so people.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Sah, not dehumanizing yourself. Just the fact that animals are
involved makes a difference to wi fu being involved. Yeah,
then you look up any you look up like any
not Safe for work content, you find out what like
cub and scat is and then just like, oh, never mind.
Then I'm gonna hate every furry I meet, and I
can't blame him even though it's unjust.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
I don't know. I remember, by the man, I remember
being fifteen and hearing about what bears were and what
otters were and everything else, and I know it's not connected.
I understand that I'm not retarded, but it's just like,
as a whole you learn so many weird terms for
absolutely fucking everything, Like if you have if you have
anybody in any fucking community around, you'll learn the terminology

(32:57):
of whatever the fuck is in them. And they could
be the worst part of this problem or they could
be the best part of the problem. And do you
have no idea? They're just the people that you're around, which.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Is like I said, it's just the immediacy of it,
which is like, if you want to find bad of furry,
it is the first thing you find. And I don't
even think that it's like a like a striisand effect
thing or just like oh, everyone floats the bad so
it's easy to find. It's like, no, it's just that
accessible in the community, no matter how you look. Yeah,

(33:29):
it's weird.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
No, And there's a lot of communities that have the
same exact problems. And we've had this conversation numerous times.
You have these people that will walk around New York
City being like, we're coming to get your kids. It's like,
why are you saying that? Why?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
And that's that's the thing I think the left struggles
with is believe people when they tell you what they are,
and then there's no jokes that. That's the thing about
having like some narcissistic thing. Eventually you let the darkness out.
You can't hold it in for yourself because you know,
you have to gloat, you have to express yourself. Help.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
This conversation with somebody, and I can't say who it
is because it was a private conversation, but we had
this conversation and I looked at them and I was like, well,
why are you so aggressive towards everything right wing now?
Like why is this such a big thing to you now?
Because before you were right wing? And they told me
I feel like a lot of the stuff that they

(34:27):
believe is lies and they're maliciously believing it. And I
was like that, I can understand, but then why when
there's proof of things, can you not believe it and
see that we're humans that are believing the same things
that you are. Whether it's a different side of the
coin or not. There is so much dehumanizing and inability

(34:50):
to like understand that the person on the other side
is a human. It's like we've drawn these lines where
we're like you either are this or they're you're a
piece of shit, And it's like, what the fuck. Just
because you're a furry doesn't mean anything about your fucking
intelligence or anything, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's
fucking stupid to me.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
My problem with the whole thing is that if you
point out the truth, there's always deflection because it's like
you show a picture of some LGBT leader that's like,
we're coming for your kids, and then you're just like, hey,
this thing that's not happening is actually happening, and here's
the one hundredth example of it, and then they just
say like, oh, conservatives are only using this to find

(35:33):
a reason to hate gay people. It's like we should
be concerned of that statement regardless. And it's like, but
it's just a joke, and that we're only saying it's
a piss off conservatives because you guys are so easy.
It's like, but there's always like like, if you know
we're going to get upset, then why even say it
unless there's like some intention behind there. And it's just like, yeah,
well conservatives are also racist, so you lose. So everything

(35:56):
is deflexion.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
It gets weird. You know, the like stripper ladies that
you put on your mudflaps or on like the back
window of your car and stuff like that. I don't
think that those should be available, right, You don't want
naked titties on the back of your window in front
of kids and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I was always surprised how those are legal. Same thing
with truck nuts. It's like, man, that's just a fall
sack on the back of a truck.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Like, oh, it's all the same thing. And I remember
seeing this short in a story about this city that
banned pride flags. They're like, we don't care what you
do in your house, we don't care what you do,
just do not display it to everybody in the city.
It's not anybody's business. Keep it between yourself.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
What can't be like marijuana, Like just don't smoke in
the streets, but you're still allowed to express it.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Why isn't that the answer? Why isn't that the answer
for a lot of these problems that we're dealing with currently.
It's like, guys, if we just kept it to ourselves,
nobody gives a fuck. Yeah, nobody does. As long as
you're a good person. Nobody cares.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Oh. Acceptance would have also been like a lot easier,
even from conservatives, where it's just like, yeah, that's a
reasonable take, but don't force me to have to like
make a cake for a couple that I don't agree with. See,
it's like then they start overshooting for that power, and
then somehow that's like a natural human right to be
forced into compliance, and then everyone disagrees now as a whole.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
You want to know, it's weird. Remember when we would hear, oh,
well they're getting the right to marry, and everybody would
be like, heard, they're one step closer. I'm gonna marry
my toaster, And then everybody gets confused by their equating
gay sex and everything else, the other things that they
were comparing and stuff. It's like they weren't comparing and saying, well,

(37:40):
all these things are going to happen. It brings more
and more degeneracy. And not saying gay sex is degenerate,
but the more things that we bring into the light
as normal for everybody to degenerate, things move closer to
the light. Yeah, that is what people were saying. That
is what people riculate properly. That is what the problem is.

(38:01):
It's not gay sex, it's not gay marriage. Go fucking
love whoever the fuck you want to love. Yeah, but
why No, it's interesting to actually see exactly what's going on,
and it's just a logic.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
I think keeping the pride flag out of public is
also not like a phobic thing or a hateful thing,
because it is literally a sex symbol.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I mean no harm by it. I mean no, I'm
fucking bigoted to these problems. No, I am actually so
much more accepting than ninety nine percent of Republicans are.
But as a whole, I do not want it in
front of the kids, not because I don't want them
to feel accepted if they feel that way, but as
a whole, I don't want it to be pushed as
something they have to do or they have to be.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
It is also something that I've talked about on the
show where it's like it's literally a sexual liberation movement.
Maybe we should keep that away from kids, like we
keep anything that is explicit.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Or was it unacceptable when girls started stripping off their
bras and shirt saying that they're being sexually liberated, should
teenage girls join that? No, No, we do not want that. Yeah,
not because they shouldn't have a voice, but because they
shouldn't be getting naked in the middle of the street.

(39:16):
I don't want to get naked in the middle of
the street. Burlers shouldn't get naked in the middle of
the street. Nobody should.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
And getting naked, you shouldn't flirt with that line either
by wearing like a thong and a sock and like
barely covering your parts because you need to express yourself
in that and that still just be exactly I don't mean,
like to be normal as in like be normal with
a man and a woman or something, just like just
keep any any sexualities things to yourself.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
And we all brought the light to the degeneracy and
bringing the light to the degeneracy didn't destroy the degeneracy.
It's made it acceptable.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
And that's bad.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, and that's not because they shouldn't have been able
to get married. Keep it in your bedroom. We don't
want jobs.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
On second, when we got so comfortable being furris because
we didn't see we need to bring back bullying. Furries
didn't get bullyed for three years, and then we just
start shitting in conventions. So you need you need to
have tap down on anything that's uh, get a little
too fur.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
So you sent me this story and I figured i'd
leave it for the show. I didn't even read it
because I was like, hey, we're going to do this live.
So my co worker is totally normal. Obviously, he has
none of these proclivities, and it fascinates me. He has
no mental health problems like everyone else here and way, yes,

(40:37):
he isn't on any meds. He's physically healthy. I've had
to explain my panic attacks, my anxiety, my meds, being
overwhelmed by basically everything and so much more to him
because he's never experienced or heard of them. Almost everyone
I know is a mess, and the contrast between them,
myself and him is amazing to me. He's like a machine,

(40:58):
just like other things. He's never late to work. He
doesn't oversleep, he doesn't have trouble sleeping. He doesn't have meltdowns, tantrums, outbursts,
or shutdowns. He isn't allergic to anything, and it doesn't
have any food sensitivities, or at least none that he
knows of. He works out every day, either at home
or the gym. He has no chronic health issues. He
doesn't get stuck or freeze or get trapped in a loop.

(41:21):
He can drive without issue and knows how to get
to where he wants to go without his phone. Detoys
don't cause him any issues. If anything, don't go to
plan or have change or fall apart, He just adapts
and moves on. He can just talk to people, males females,
just casual conversation. If a big choice has to be made,
he just makes it. He does what he says he'll

(41:43):
do and when he says he'll do it, and the
way he says he'll do it. He can solve problems.
There's no googling, no looking up. He just knows. He
doesn't keep his phone on him all day. He puts
it away and he has no need to look at it.
He doesn't use social media, he doesn't follow it, and
he doesn't care.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
That's scary, that's fucking terrifying that a normal person is
an oddity. That is that gets eleven thousand up votes
on Reddit. And that's how cooke zoomers are.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
To me. This isn't even zoomers. I thought about something
after I saw a short the other day and it said,
the reason that you develop social anxiety, and the reason
social anxiety is on the rise is because we are
no longer watching body language, We no longer show body language.
So as a whole, we're disconnected from the person that's

(42:38):
in front of us because we're not reading their body
as we're having a conversation with them. So then there's
a massive problem because we don't know exactly how somebody's feeling.
We've developed a very very very big inadequacy in that
where we cannot be able to figure those things out,

(42:59):
which which isn't crazy to think about when you look
at something like this. He's not on social media, he's
not texting all the time. When we were teenagers, what
was everybody doing sitting there hanging out? They picked up
their fucking razor flip phone and started texting on T
nine word hoping that all their words came out. And
we only had two hundred, two thousand, five hundred text

(43:21):
messages a month, and we hope that we got all
of it out within two hundred and fifty six characters. Yeah,
now we can't even read body language. And like, I'm
not even saying I'm good at this because I'm not.
I struggle with it too. I struggle with it a lot.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
The thing is like I've been on this thread for
over a decade, Like even when I was like going
twenty ten to twenty eleven. I'm just like, social media
is bad and it's already cooking people. And I hate
millennials because we are already becoming weak. We already want
you know, it's like, oh, minimum wage should be a
living wage, and that people were talking about that twenty ten,
twenty eleven. I'm just like, no, work sixty hours a

(44:00):
week and build wealth and then convert that into a
business or some kind of trade and then vocation and
then you can actually build a healthy life. Because when
you're twenty, you have infinite energy. This is when you're
supposed to waste your life and then trade life for
money and then build your life and then be good.
So I'm just on this one. I'm just like, ah, yeah,
I'm definitely like yep, millennial suck zoomer, suck more and

(44:24):
we're all cooked. And I've held this for fifteen years now.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Like, reading through this, I had to explain my panic
attacks and anxiety. Okay, number one, panic attacks and anxiety
shit I deal with. I deal with. I literally had
this conversation with my girlfriend the other day. She's like, well,
my exes panic attacks? I said, what were they? Him
sitting on the ground crying, saying that he can't handle something.

(44:50):
Is that that's not a panic attack? That is whining
and bitching and complaining and saying that can't handle something. Yeah,
I said, in all of this bullshit, all of this
stress and all of this shit that we've gone through,
have you ever watched me freeze and not be able
to do something? She said, No, I said, because I
actually can control myself. If I'm gonna panic, it's once

(45:14):
the stress crashes. It's not in the moment any of
you retards that's like, oh, well, I freeze and then
I fall to the floor. And I cry. That's not
a fucking panic attack, and it's not being fragile. A
panic attack is so close to having a seizure and
having fucking panic go over your entire body that you

(45:34):
cannot stop it without changing your entire fucking mindset. It
is a day altering thing, not just oh I take
meds and it goes away. That's not fucking panic, you retard.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, No, genuinely, people like got super mad at me
because like I've also held this for a pretty much
my entire life, where just like almost all depression is
self created and all these like die like self diagnosed ADHD, autism,
mental illness stuff is just like or you work for
proper mental health, We're just like, did you know that

(46:09):
if you made your own food and walked them ale
a day ninety that goes away? Stay offline, talk to
people in person. I just the crazy.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
You've been around the entire time that I've been dealing
with my divorce. You've been around the entire time that
I've been dealing with all this shit. I've been some
of my worst days. How are you going on this camera?
How am I held together? How the hell am I
better now than I? Ever was before. Yeah, because I
changed the way that I saw the world. I worked strong.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
You didn't just give up and be like, well, I
just say all these bad things and I use and
I put in my Twitter profile and then people have
sympathy for me and there's nothing I can do about
you know, brankm the colds can't change anything about it.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
I healed my suicidal ideation. Healed it in the worst
time of my life because I had to. Because it's
my job. It's my job to turn over to the
next day and make sure my kids are taken care
of and they have nothing in the world that they
want or need. That is my job. And there are

(47:12):
days and times where that is fucking hard. But saying
that it's fucking hard is just that. It's saying it's hard.
It's not saying that I you know what, Yeah, you
defeat the biggest and hardest fucking problem. You want to
know what the biggest and hardest problem is waking the
fuck up in the morning. You don't want to be depressed,

(47:32):
don't fucking sit on your bed, don't sit on your couch,
Go and fucking achieve something.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
That That's a lot of my thing, which is like
in ninety eight percent of cases, because there are some
that are like actually super duper severe in problem acts,
like just don't be depressed like you need to.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
I have complex PTSD. It is things that you cannot heal.
There are places in the state of New York I
have panic attacks if I go in not.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Because early uh ADHD discussion where I'm just like, what
do you mean. It's a trauma response kind of thing
where it's like, oh, that's how that happened.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Huh Yeah, it's hard. Like CPTSD and ADHD are so connected.
When you have ADHD, you're more susceptible. So in those situations.
I developed PTSD because of fucking abuse, because of a
lot of fucking abuse, and whether that's my childhood or

(48:34):
my marriage, I developed PTSD in both of them. My
psychologist the other day, it was like two or three
months ago, and you know, life changed since she looked
at me and said, Zach, you understand that not only
your mom, but your ex wife is somebody that triggers
your PTSD. Every single time you talk to her, she

(48:58):
will bring you back to being that person you were
at eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old. Because that's the
last time that you were okay with her, So then
you're cycling over the same exact traumas, the same exact anxieties,
every single time that you go back there. M And
I was like, fuck, you know what I did, I've

(49:21):
cut all contact with that's fucking narcissistic.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Potato chips and seed oils that make you feel that way.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
No, I've gone no contact exactly, I've healed to the
point where to the point where she doesn't even co
parent anymore. She made her she made her dad become
the person that transports my kids back and forth because
she doesn't want to see me because I'm too narcissistic.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
M HM doesn't mean it's crazy. Actually, get offline, touch grass,
walk around and make food for yourself, and it's going
to make you much better. But no, that's that's that's wrong. Breaking.
You need medications.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Point of Tate's point of Okay, So you've been diagnosed
your entire life with depression. You want to know what,
I've never seen a depressed person with a six pack.
Go get one. Teach yourself determination, teach yourself how to
handle yourself, and see what happens. Then you know, if
I'm wrong. It's okay, I understand.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, that's what I mean. Like I leave edge case,
I leave edge case, and then the things just work.
To be strong, you have to you have to do
it to survive. Think the real world doesn't give a
fuck about you. That's the thing. Like, if you're just
thrown out into the wilderness, you're dead. So all this
like modern comfort, use it to your advantage and don't
be like people tweeting from their iPhones talk about how
they're oppressed or how they're sad or under privilege. It's insane.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Six years out of my thirty year existence, I've been
suicidal six years, the most recent two years and the
first four years of my life. If I can pull
myself out of it, most people can. And that's being honest,

(51:06):
that's being genuine. I was there. I'm telling you that
you could pull yourself out. I'm telling you this is
how you do it. I've answered the questions and there's
going to be a full fucking show on how to
do it. So do it. It's not complex, it's just
putting in the work, in the effort. The other day

(51:28):
we I wanted to do memorial dinners for the baby
because we had to have cremation and everything else, and
we had the memorial with my family. It was one
of the most interesting feelings I've ever had in a
long time.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yeah, my family somber that doesn't exist until you hit it.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
It was at first and then watching my baby start
lighting up because she's a people person just like I am,
and watching her the light in you know, fifteen people's
eyes of like, Oh, I'm just gonna be funny, I'm
just gonna be a smart ass. I'm just gonna fuck around.
It was one of the most calming things because it's like, at.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Some point it hits because life goes on. Life, yes,
will go on.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
And I looked at my mom, I was like, you know,
it's been eight years since all of us have been
in a room. It's been eight years. Now. All of
a sudden, all of you guys are back in my life.
Every single one of you guys are back now because
you're finally hearing me instead of ignoring it. We had

(52:44):
a great dinner. If we were able to spend time
with each other, it was it was weird to finally
see everybody all together again. Goddamn, it's it's weird to
see that change. Then we're all standing outside waiting for
one of us, what godmom to get her ride home,
And we're all sitting there bullshitting and I look over

(53:05):
and my son's holding the pizza restaurant door open for
all the people that are walking out. I was like, Oh,
he's just holding the door for the people that were
right behind us. Continue my conversation, I'll look over, he's
holding the door for the people walking in, and I'm like,
and this guy came out. He's like, thank you, thank you,

(53:27):
and he found me out of the group and he's like,
thank you for raising your kid right. Thank you. Because
most kids nowadays never would even question doing that.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah, that's crazy because and it was so normal for
us growing up, like that's what you're just supposed to do,
and now it's an anomaly that goes on Reddit.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
And so my girlfriend wanted to go to the shoe
store that's right next to the pizza place. So she
grabbed the baby, she grabbed my oldest and was like,
we're going to go girl shopping in the shoe store.
And they come out and the baby was like, oh,
I wanted to see these crocs. So I brought her
back in to show her the Pokemon crocks to see

(54:08):
if they had the size whatever. They didn't, and she
started getting triggered because she is on that ADHD autism spectrum. Shit,
so she's just starting to feel shitty and starting to
whine a bit and scream. So I brought her out
to the car. I was like, nope, nope, we're going
home now. We're going home now. And somebody I worked

(54:28):
with before. I don't think you remembered me, but he
was standing there talking with his son and stuff like that. Meanwhile,
I'm fighting with the baby trying to get her in
the car. I get her in the car, I get
her buckled in, get her calm down, and I go
to walk around the car because I wanted to move
the pizza boxes into the trunk. He's like, Bud, wait
a minute, you're doing a good job. I'm like, well,

(54:51):
all this is going on? He's like, no, realize you
were that baby's light. You showed her that it's okay,
you're doing a good job. And it's just like fuck, Like,
you don't expect the person that you don't talk to.
You don't expect the person that sees you know, maybe
the worst moment of the day to be like, you're okay, bud,

(55:13):
you got this. You're a dad.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Stupid thing. Is it's that easy? Where instead of like
creating a brat on the spot by giving them candy
and rewarding that behavior to make them shut up, you're
just like, we're out of here. Time to parent. And
then someone went that's how you do it that easy?

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Not hey I told him. I was like, yeah, well
I had her for the first two two and a
half years of her life and then you know, court
case focks that all up and changes that she's He's like, yeah,
you were. You are her normal, the person that she's
okay to be here, bring it back. It shows her

(55:50):
that it's okay. It's okay to teach her that it's
not okay to act like this. She's autistic. She's going
to show that there's these things that just stick out,
and you're showing her that it's okay to showcase that
hey there's a problem, or hey there's this you're changing it,
let her see it. And I was just it made
me feel good just to just, you know, even in

(56:12):
a negative time, that somebody's just like, no, no, this
is what dads are supposed to do. This is what
you were meant to do, and just it made me
feel good. It was one of the weirdest kind of
situations ever. Cool. So, what's the shit about hurricanes and voodoo?

(56:33):
Because Kyle's been talking about Hurricane Katrina. Then you message
me about Hurricane Katrina, and now more shit's going on
about Hurricane Katrina. So what the fuck is going on?
Because yes I do, I can.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
It helps when you have that much text on screen
to be reading off something that can be worked with.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
I will try and get it so way it actually is,
you know, centered and everything else, because.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Ye like there's some sight words and I can read
it hopefully. Okay, So this is a story I covered
on my side channel called for Liss five Extra, which
used to be for Less Fi Hot Takes. That's where
I kind of like go into the deeper dives and
don't feel appropriate on a Pokemon channel. So we're talking
about volunteering after Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans and there

(57:23):
was something that still scares me this day. So the
reason I got into this was with North Carolina. It's like, okay,
what's happening with FEMA? Because I grew up in Florida.
Hurricanes are a regular thing, and Katrina was big news
and like kind of like a a similar you can
keep that up.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
I think it's oh I had a point. I was waiting,
Oh you're good, I was letting you finish, and then
I was gonna have the point.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Oh okay. So yeah, so like FEMA, we all understand
it together kind of idea and then it's like, yeah,
FEMA sucked. There everyone knows FEMA completely dropped the ball
and that we like we should be learning from, like
what happened with the failure of the disaster relief for Katrina.
It is one hundred times worse than you remember if
you actually get back into it.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
They failed with Sandy too, And that's what my point was. Yeah,
that's Hurricane Sandy and Irene hit here. There were even
people like my in law grandparents that lost their entire house,
lost hundreds of thousands of dollars and were given zero
because it wasn't their job.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Yep. So that's why I mean, it's like, how did that, Like,
how are we still making the same mistakes with FEMA
and we're still giving them billions of dollars because the
stopgap spending bill. I saw like one of my COMMI friend.
They were just like, oh, Republicans voted against twenty billion
for FEMA, so that's why you're just wrong. It's like wait, wait, wait,
let's actually get to the truth here. And the truth

(58:47):
is it was a part of the stopgap, so they
weren't voting against FEMA funding. But that was twenty billion
the stopgap gap passed. So twenty billion last week or
like a week and a half ago now gone. So
Mayorka says there's no FEMA money for hurricanes anymore. It's like,
wait a second, we just passed twenty billion. How is
where's the money. It's kind of idea. So then you
look back on Katrina and it's all fucked go back

(59:09):
to yeah, that's got back to this. Yeah. So another
interesting thing is if you dig into Reddit, you find
old posts before anything dramatic happened, where it's like they're
eating cats in Springfield, and then a year ago it's
like there's some weird stuff going on in Springfield with
the migrants. So like you need to find those older posts.
This is from five years ago. So there's no political charging,
there's no like we need to bash schema right now

(59:31):
with some conservative talking point because it's politically correct, and
we're going to fabricate a story on Reddit. This is
a real thing that happened, documented five years ago. Thoughts.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
I'm really thoroughly interested to see what the hell is.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Yes, I guess, I guess I'm gonna stop blue ball
in the story. Yeah, here it goes. I have a
medical background and certification I rarely use, but I keep
renewing it. Anyhow, I volunteered almost immediately thinking I would
help those who have lived through Katrina. That was not
the case. There were a few of us who were
assigned once the water started to receive to find houses
that had dead bodies in them. So this person wanted

(01:00:04):
to volunteer to help, and because the disaster relief was
so screwed up, they got stuck on dead body duty.
That's ridiculous. So if you ever and then they tell
the story of how this goes down, if you ever
had to do body recovery. Once it's been lying around
in the heat and water for days, sometimes weeks at
a time, you know how it smells. It doesn't smell
like any other dead carcass. It's worse. It has a

(01:00:26):
sweeter smell to it. The key to not vomiting when
you smell this is vicks right under the nose. You
can't keep all the smell out, but it's enough to
where you can stomach it without vomiting. We go to
each house. We go inside and waiting boots and look
for bodies. Many of them washed out to see, but
some were still in the houses they had lived in
prior to the hurricane. If we found a body, spray
paint a red X outside the house, and that's it.

(01:00:49):
The other guy and I had been doing it for
a while. We were signed each other almost every day.
Got along. Okay, he didn't vomit at the ones that
had been gotten too, And I wonder what that gotten
to is. I'm guessing like the animal as well. So
you have, yeah, dead decomposing bodies. And then another another
angle system going to keep blue Ball in the story
is when I was getting a thumbnail for this video,

(01:01:09):
I was actually looking up like the disaster codes and stuff,
because like urban disasters, when they spray paint, they put
the date they put the bodies, they put like other
details on it. A lot of dead dogs, like an
upsetting amount of pictures where you see like a boarded
up house and just says dead dog inside.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
That's what Kyle was talking about. That's literally they had
that conversation tonight that I guess. There was a lawsuit
against a couple places in New Orleans. When people were evacuated,
they were told to place their dogs in shelters and
stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
No, not not in shelters. They said, we would will
come back and rescue your dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Any dogs that were taking Any dogs that were placed
in shelters were euthanized within days.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Oh yeah, like the rescue shelters, not come in shelters, right, yep.
Some people were told to just leave their animals and
your animals would be recovered alive. And then the stat
is five hundred thousand animals were left in Katrina to die,
and most of almost all of them did. That's the
crazy thing to me. So back, so yeah, like you

(01:02:18):
go to that disaster stuff and just like it was
all beyond fucked. So we came up to this one
old shack. I say shack because it's pretty run down
in a very bad neighborhood. Right away, I got chills
down my spine, and that sticks out to me because
This is someone that's been wading through dead bodies and
recovering dead bodies and eventually you get numb to it.
But this suddenly their fucking alarms go off and they

(01:02:41):
get chills off of an old rundown house. So that's
always spooky vibes. I knew something was really wrong, not
like find a body kind of wrong, but chilling wrong.
New Orleans has certain areas that give off these vibes.
There's a lot of voodoo practice in these areas against everything.
My body was screaming at me. We went into the
house and like, fuck it, FEMA people are getting paid

(01:03:03):
so much money to just not do anything. They're putting
like little soaps and bags and shit for one hundred
dollars a day, and these volunteers have to find and
extract the bodies while who knows what other dangers are
around with looters, wild animals or this shit. So they
have to deal with this trauma and then they go
into the house. First thing I could smell was a body.

(01:03:24):
The second was earthy and moldy. I looked at my partner.
He was white as a sheet. He was feeling it too.
I could tell he was getting the same feeling it
was obvious from the weird bones hanging the ceiling. I
would bet money they're cats.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Side note, voodoo started in Haiti, so that sinking that
cats being used for voodoo rituals from Haitians in New
Orleans already existing in America back in was contrite two
thousand and six or two thousand and four, six, right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Two thousand and four, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Yeah, So like so early two thousands, we already have
Haitian practicing voodoo with dead cats in the country. So
Springfield Shenanigan's right there, and then the story being told
five years ago before any possible politicization or racism could
come into play.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
There's also a big enough stereotype for people in New
Orleans to be doing voodoo and stuff that it's seen
in things like Disney's Princess and the Frog. There's a
voodoo guy in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
That representing voodoo guys. And yeah, it's also a huge
tourist thing. So something odd had been going down in
this house, strange beads and carving in the bare wood
of the walls. Free. That's when you know like someone
is actually practicing when they start defiling their house with
whatever the demons are telling them. So we went into

(01:04:42):
what was a kitchen and chained to a beam in
the ceiling was an old lady, or what was left
of her. She changed herself by the wrist to the beam.
Her guts were falling on the floor. Creepiest thing. Her
face looked like she was still alive and staring at
us with a wicked smile. My skin started crawling and
goosta bumps spread over my body. Suddenly I heard an

(01:05:04):
unearthly cackling noise, unlike anything I've heard in my life.
My flight or fight kicked in. We noped out of
there through it's getting dry. We painted an X and
ran to the next house. Don't know if that lady
practice voodoo, but that thing scared that every living shit

(01:05:25):
out of me and still gives me nightmares. People I
feel sorry for are the ones I had to take
the crazy lady out of there. That's fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Yeah. The interesting thing is the next line he heard
the cackling two. Well, we both said it had to
be the wind or something.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
That's the lie you have to tell yourself to fucking
get to the next day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
So I don't know if you watched like things like
ghost adventures or stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
All that shit's fake. I'm more about these Reddit posts
where it's like you find a seven year old Reddit
story of someone talking about their grandma who did voodoo,
who died in Katrina, and then now they see her
in her in their dreams of shit. That's that's what
interests me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
No, that's my point is like, even in those things,
they'll be like, oh, well, normally most people will hear something,
but not both of us, or not the entire group.
Maybe one or two.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Yeah, like one person skitzos out, but.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Not yeah exactly, whether it's some person's fighter flight, not
everything everybody. That to me makes it seem more and
more realistic that there was a response, something happen to
both of them at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
It's it's hard. Like I remember learning about a whole
bunch of shit like that where people are like, oh, yeah,
we're witches, we do we do seances and all that shit,
and it's like, now that shit's fake as hell. Do
you believe in this shit or do you like question it?

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Or I grew up in Miami, Santa Ria is not
to be fucked with. Voodoo is not to be fucked with.
You are inviting some kind of evil into some kind
of something. That kind of goes with a theme that
I love talking about on the show, where it's like
there's woo woo out there. You can't just be like
God one hundred percent going to heaven all these things,

(01:07:08):
but there is something supernatural to this world where shit
that can't be explained happens just enough under the right
circumstances to where it needs to be acknowledged and or respected.
And I think voodoo falls into that where like there's
too many stories.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Yeah there, like there's positive unexplainable things and there's negative
unexplainable things, and who knows which is going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
It's like, and it's also depends on the timing, where
it's like I can't recall the dozens of stories I've
heard from two thousand and eight Internet era to now
like a random Twitter thread in twenty fifteen where someone's
just like, Hey, I think I'm haunted because our grandma,
voodoo practitioner died of a heart attack. We took in
one of her like little totems, and now like shit's

(01:07:54):
going down in the house, Like I think evil energy
in that way, especially when doing like sacrifices and get
bones and carvings and shit, you can carry that energy
beyond death. And that's also why I'm just like, there
there could have been an apparition representing like a apparition
like painted over her to where it's like she looks
like she's still alive because there was some death altering

(01:08:18):
ritual being done, gut spilled out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
It's so hard. It's so hard to listen to people
like the medium that we've had on here and everything
else explains stuff or say how he perceives things and
for him not to sound crazy. And then there are
things where I'm just like, there is no way in
hell you are able to pull something that makes so
much sense out of nowhere, And that's where it gets

(01:08:43):
hard to me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
There's also just tons of bullshit as well. Yeah, but
then like a rand like and also like what are
the odds a random femal worker stumbles into a voodoo shack,
so like voodoo common practice, and I hate that there's
no coincidences in the world, or like time is a
flat circle, or maybe that proves we live in the
simulation that as all this like Haitian migrant nonsense is

(01:09:06):
going on. There's a specific reference. It's like, I believe
their cat bones. They didn't have to say that, they
could have just said bones, but this guy's like I
would bet that this voodoo practitioner had cat bones in
their thing. This is coming out during a Katrina story,
after we have the Haitian migrant story. Yeah, no, I don't.
That's spookier than the voodoo to me. But then I

(01:09:28):
just like this. I love the parent, well, not love
because like there's like paranormal people that are way too
obsessed with but I'm just like there was an incredible
fascination to how interesting this world can be. And I
think like practitioners and witches and like when you again
santorin and voodoo, like that's where you start finding WinCE
or like spooky beyond coincidence.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Shit, my mom, My mom had a friend that works
in the nursing home with her that was wicked and
she like I don't know how in depth she practiced it,
but she put pentagrams everywhere, Like she had a tattoo
of a pentagram, and just like it. Looking back as

(01:10:09):
an adult now, I don't understand how people are like this,
is the answer. I don't under I don't get it
at all. And she wasn't even an asshole. She wasn't
a piece of shit, she wasn't some she was kind
of scary, but uh like, she wasn't insane. She was

(01:10:29):
extremely intelligent. That's all believed.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
She was a really interesting because like when it comes
to religion, religion, the demons are always tempting out there,
and that's one thing that's kind of spooked me recently,
where it's like the world, the background noise of the
universe feels more evil right now. I don't know if
I'm crazy and feeling or thinking this, but it just
feels like the demons aren't powerful right now. And if

(01:10:55):
you just sit there and listen and you just like
pay attention to like you need some form of faith
to survive in the world right now. There's a lot
of godless, there's a lot of atheists, there's a lot
of doubters out there, and that's I think that's also
why the demons are winning so much. But like you
just need to have faith to provide good power within
yourself to keep the demons away, because the demons be
strong right now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
I remember back in the day looking at everything and
just being so uh, you know, everything is logical, everything connects,
everything goes forward. And I don't say this as a Republican,
I don't say this as a righty. I don't say
this as a far right extremist. The shit that is
going on in the world doesn't genuinely make sense. The

(01:11:38):
shit that is being allowed to happen doesn't make sense.
Like even Iraq, which was a shithole, makes no fucking
sense to do it all. You can see right and
wrong in the situation. You can see right and wrong
in what happened afterwards. You can you can see the
right and wrong in every part of it. The shit

(01:12:01):
that's happening in Israel is completely gray. The shit that's
happening in Ukraine is completely gray, and we're letting it happen.
And that, to me doesn't make a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Yeah, it's that's where it gets, like the interpretation of
the Bible is all sudden. We talked about the show.
That kind of is fascinating because, like Jordan Peterson, the
way he talks about is like the allegories of human
nature at the very least, whether like however, hwh you
want to take religion, you have to respect the Bible
as something about deep ingrained human nature. And when I

(01:12:37):
say demons, I don't mean like the literal demons out
there that you're summoning ritualistically and Satan's coming kind of idea. No,
it's the inter the demons inside of all of us,
just from the human condition, where the bad, the sins,
the bad of us. You need to cast that away.
You can't feed that under any circumstance. So that's what
I mean, Like you need to find good morality inside
of you or you just become a bad person. And

(01:12:59):
what type wait, and that like real demons that are
actually influencing you, and like you need faith to be
a good person or the metaphorical demons the demons be
strong right now?

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Yeah, And to tie it back to what we were
talking about with mental illness and saying, oh, well I
have this or I have that, you're feeding yourself you know,
complex answers to why you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
You're given the evil a buffet.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Not even that like even if you look at it
at a base level, right, and you're saying, okay, well this,
this and this, you giving yourself an answer to impulse
and allowing yourself, like say you're the leader of Israel
and you're like, fuck their entire world up, destroy everything
because what they did is unacceptable. If you look at
that in a vacuum, Yes, I completely understand why you

(01:13:49):
would destroy everything they did for what they did, But
the innocence don't deserve it. So as a whole, is
he allowing himself to just you know, run off of
hate or run off of impulse or anger because of
something that happened. And there's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
That's where shit gets real interesting because like let's say
completely hypothetical, this is not what I subscribe to, but
let's say Christianity is the true religion and God is
the ultimate power. Every act he is doing is correct
by the Bible to like purge the non believers, like
because they're choosing to be the blasphemous faith. It's it's

(01:14:31):
it's what the entire Bible is about. It's what the
fucking Crusades were about. They disagree with our sky God,
therefore they must be wiped out entirely. That is what's
happening here now? Is that correct? No, Because like you're
killing innocence regardless, and that they.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Both are they both are fighting the same exact fight
and the same.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
So we're watching, we're just see that's a weird thing,
Like we're not understanding like this is a real time crusade.
We we think, oh, medieval times, ancient, that that could
never happen. This is just literally crusade right now. And
that's where the morality I think gets fuzzier and not
in like a oh well, I like this side and
I subscribe to this faith, therefore what they're doing is correct.

(01:15:15):
But it's like this is history repeating in an exact
way that we've already talked about that that religion exists
off of Yeah, and is that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
And that's why I think it's so morally gray. That's
why I think that there everything feels.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
That putting it from that, because you can't also just
say like, well, innocence died, therefore this is morally unacceptable
in the black. No, It's like, wait, crusades though, and
beliefs and all that shit, and and what if this
is actually the biblical end times? We were in Fourth
Horsemen apocalypse times, this is the destruction before Jesus descends

(01:15:53):
some kind of shit. Because it also sounds like that
if you read the Bible, and you look at how
the war is playing out, how the Bible depicted When.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
There's a storm right now, that is the number five storm. Ever,
that's this is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
All time shit happening in real time? Is it real?

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
I like mental illness? Wise, you lean into that ship
and all of a sudden you accept that as your
answer always. That's the hard part is like, if you
explore the world being apocalyptic, you will always feel like
the world is apocalyptic. It will always be condemnation. It

(01:16:33):
will always be apocalypse now, it will always be everything
is falling apart. At what point is it logical to
be like, Okay, some of it makes sense. It's hard.
It's genuinely hard.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Genuinely doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Oh yeah. And then and then going back to like
the Katrina stuff or just like no coincidences, so many stories,
what's happening out there? I find it fascinating. Now I'm
not even scared. I'm just fascinated by finding these stories.
That's why I'm talking about them. And I wish, like
I don't wish this podcast was more popular so we

(01:17:10):
could get more money. I just wish ten thousand people
like heard that Katrina story and then realize like there's
some there's some wuo wo out there, and I don't
like how it comes, how it ties together, and how
we've never learned any lessons even from Katrina.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
I don't know. I don't think either of us want
eyes because of money. I think either both of us
want eyes because I think we genuinely get out of conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
I think I'm onto something here. I want someone to
realize I'm onto.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Something, whether it's mental health, whether it's voodoo shit, you
know what I'm saying that that conversation is interesting, regardless
of it makes you question.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Sometimes I want someone else to be pissed that five
hundred thousand dogs died, well the pets, so like probably
three hundred thousand cats, two hundred thousand dogs died in Katrina.
And I don't know who to be more mad at,
because like, at some point, if you are the owner
and like you leave your dog in the house so
you know, you put them in your cage on like
the highest dresser and say were coming back, buddy, It's like,
fuck you, even though the shelters said they wouldn't take

(01:18:06):
you with that dog.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Cage should not be the answer regardless.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Well, I mean, like you just leave your dog in
the house to get flooded out anyway, So like the
cage is kind of like if the water doesn't go
this high, you live, and then every house ended up
underwater and that's why there's the disaster things where it
just says we just find pain spray paint of dog
dead under house.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Owner will bury even as a parent, you know what
I'm saying. I'm sitting here looking at this being like, Okay,
so if my house is burning down right now, my
first answer is to get both my girlfriend and my
kids out. That's answer one and two. If I have
enough time to come back for three, then it's my
dogs obviously. But at the same time, there's a there's

(01:18:48):
a stage there. So how much of that can you
really blame on the owner because they have to go
if they don't go, now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Well, I wouldn't say equal like comparing a human to
or dog to a baby, nah, but like it was
like you still brought on that responsibility and is your
responsibility to protect what you have?

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Absolutely? Yeah, I'm just saying like it's hard to not
look at it at stages because there is stages.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
You get you get a weak heads up where it's like, yo,
you need to evacuate, and then if you're just like,
we don't need to evacuate, they gets worse and worse
than like two days out you're just like, oh, we
have to evacuate, we have no plan, and then you
the end of that, the panic of two days out
and not have it being able to evacuate, is you
leave your dog to drown. Fuck you, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Oh I agree. Like if a hurricane happened and hit
New York again like it did with Sandy and Irene,
the main road down off the mountain that I live
on is fucking gone. I'm I'm trapped for probably the
next three months. That's it, endgame, it's done. The entire

(01:19:59):
mountain is rounded by rivers, Like it's either get out
now or if it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Comes North Carolina and all those like pictures you see,
that's where you're at, and that kind of like goes.
But also like if you're in those situations, you should
have a plan as a responsible person, And the more
responsibility you have on the more you should have that plan.
Like if you're a parent, you have a plan. If
you're a dog owner with and a parent. You have
a better plan. If you have more to take care of,

(01:20:25):
you need a stronger plan. You live under sea level
in the Gulf where hurricanes regularly fuck shuit up, and
you didn't have a plan for the living beings you
were associated with, Like man, like I just think about
It's like I would if I had to. It's like
I'd have a backpack. We have food for me, some

(01:20:47):
kibble for the dog, and we're walking out of there
if we have to. We we are not going down.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
As crazy as it sounds, everybody thought, you know, quicksand
was this big, huge fucking thing. Everybody thought, Oh, we're
going to deal with quicksand on everyday life. But no,
hurricanes and tornadoes and life occurrences like this are happens
much more often than most people realized that it's not.

(01:21:15):
You know, there is natural occurrences that affect us exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Why do I know that if I like step in quicksand,
I should fall forward and spread my body weight out
and try to like look for something to grab onto
instead of hurricane prep when that's going to be more
likely in my life, especially if I live in the Gulf.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Why Why are all those people that have bug out
bags and everything else crazy and that's such a.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Weird should have that, just like if your house catches
on fire because you leave on the stove, you should
have a plan.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Yeah, but all of those people, all of those preppers,
regardless of what level they are, if you have the
tag prepper at all, if you are prepared, you're weird.
Mm hmm, You're disgusting. There should be no prep Why
because you want to die, because you want the availability
to possibly be able to save yourself a little easier

(01:22:10):
than what you thought. It's weird. It's weird. Man. So
I sent you this thing, and this to me is weird.
It was a nice little chicks a tender profile, I believe,
and it is by far one of the craziest things

(01:22:32):
I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Okay, so everything I've been on wait, I would say
I've been on dating apps to try to find someone,
and it is rough out here in Seattle. And the
weird thing is I've gotten really good at spotting single moms,
Like I just go off profile picture like know what
you are, it's crazy, and then you just.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Got you gotta look at the titties. You gotta look
at how they put together. They are mass about it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Well, it's mostly like desperation, tiredness I can find. And
the other thing is it's like a Twitter profile where
it's like, wait a second, you're leading off with I
have ADHD, autism, depression and all these other things. But
then this is also getting into privilege.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
So this to me got really really interesting. So everything
that is red is considered like a negative, and everything
green is considered like this big amazing thing. So she
has our ig listed, OnlyFans listed her, let's fuck dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Listed, and there's a lot of advertisements.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
My non negotiable deal breaker, So please swipe. Don't swipe
right if you are short less than five eleven, So
if you are not above average by four inches, you're
not allowed to swipe right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
I'm actually okay with that five eleven because like, if
it's like six to two, that's unreasonable, But like five eleven, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Sure, maybe she's tall, Maybe makes sense. Live with your
parents or have within the last five years.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Five that means.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Twenty two. Anybody that is younger than me or my age,
you are not allowed to live with your parents at all.
Older than twenty two in their thirties, have never been
out of the country.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
That's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Do not go on to v do not go on
two plus vacations a year. If you watch MMA or boxing,
not at boxing, she's a retard and doesn't use a g.
If you like anime, if you like fishing, if you
work less than forty five hours a week, if you
have kids, if you have a cat, dog or a turtle,

(01:24:40):
Why the fuck is turtle the third choice? I don't
fucking understand.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Trust that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
I need play figures or insecure about me, single mom
of two boys. They're my world, content creator, adventurous. Fuck,
I don't smoke. I'm half Asian, grippy thirty six double
D grippy though, but it's grippy. I don't understand. I

(01:25:06):
don't understand at all.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
That is a shocking amount of profiles out there. And
then it's like just trying to not accept accountability for
the stuff that put them there to get bailed out
by a man that I think they think they'll take
on that baggage crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Bailed out by a man who has zero problems or
zero occurrences in life at all, and.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
That yeah, it has less problems than you, like good
luck or no No, it isn't allowed to have a
single problem. That's why I'm it's say.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
That to me is crazy. Do you know how many
people have kids before twenty two?

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
A lot?

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
It's a shit ton.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
That's worry. She's also twenty two with kids. I'm just
seeing like thirty year olds with kids. I'm like, damn,
you messed up yet.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
No, Like, honestly, before I found my girlfriend, I felt
like everything wasn't gonna like I was just gonna be
single because I didn't want to check with kids, not
because I don't like kids, but I want to be
able to parent kids that I'm around, and I you know,
that's always.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
A question as the man, I want to continue your
bloodline and influence.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Yeah, exactly. So it's like, hmm, you know, it's just
it's not going to happen for me. It's okay. And
it's like, it's weird that I actually found my girlfriend.
I was able to find somebody who had similar ideology
as me, and that, to me is weird. But like
looking at this shit, it's like, you literally can have

(01:26:34):
nothing go wrong with your life if you want to
date somebody nowadays, and even if you go back to
twenty four year old Zach h Twenty four year old
Zach lived with his parents in the past five years.
And I had two kids and I'm under six figures
like that. I have the other two sixes, but not

(01:26:54):
that one. And it's just like fuck man.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Like the dating pool has so is so low quality
and so entitled, and it's just enfranchised. I just want
to play a new world.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
God forbid you try and find somebody who likes furry shit, like,
God forbid.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Well, the thing is like, that's not hard, but finding
someone without that profile or that isn't just like EIGHTYHD.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
That's my point is like God forbid, you find somebody
that you don't share some of the same thought processes
or some of the things that you want.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
Unemployed is common neat, a lot of neats out there,
especially in furry. There's there's no quality.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
No, it's all fucking it's all brain rot. And then
why the fuck does it matter if I watch MMA
anime or like fishing. So I'm not allowed to have
any life outside of you, That's what the answer is.
I'm not allowed to play video games, I'm not allowed
to hang out, no friends.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
And then going into your thirties, there's also a lot
where it's just like, Wow, she is hot and she
is into anime and Pokemon, like even has Pokemon bttle,
Like this is it two kids?

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
No, you're lucky at two kids. You probably has five kids.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Well either way, And then like also like when they
have their little tags where it's like looking to try again,
it's like, oh, you already have kids and something fucked
you up, and now you're going to carry that into
a relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Great where they fucked up, that's and that's the harder part.
And I saw that with my You.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
Don't want to blame single moms, but there's still.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
Some blame single moms. They are fifty percent of the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
I'm your take. I don't have the experience to say
that take, but you are definitely qualified for that take.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Okay, So I was raised in a single mother household
and I had a divorce. Most people will put that
divorce on my shoulders solely, and I understand that thought process,
But at the same time, like, look at this logically,
like I fought for my marriage for three years. Why

(01:28:56):
we were dealing with massive problems and divorce was on
the table, Because that's so bad to say that it
was me that wanted it mine I finally gave up.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Single mom is a red flag both ways, because like,
even if the guy was abusive or fucked up, I
means you're a bad judge of character, were easily like
one over, or you were the bad person in that situation.
And now that's half the dating pool in your thirties.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Now you want to know the weird ones. The weird
ones aren't even these, you know, crazy bio people. I
went to school with this guy. He's probably like two
fifty three hundred pounds and like six foot tall, So like,
smaller dating pool available for him, I understand, But I
see two posts from him, two kinds of posts from him. Ever,

(01:29:45):
Like the only things he says is like, oh who's
single mom? Am I going to bring to this thing now?
And grippy box means grippy socks? And I'm like, motherfucker,
you want neither of those problems, neither of them. I understand,
you got a small dating pool, find somebody in luck
at the fucking before you're you know, forty, and you

(01:30:06):
don't have anything. Ever, but as a whole, you're not
looking in the right places to find marriage, especially as
a conservative guy, that's not where you look. That's not
where you look. It's like, fuck, man, I feel bad
for you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
And then also talk about like just millennials being fucked
in general. It's like, well, that's that's where we're at.
Most of them just never became anything in life because
they brain rotted on social media while and then ended
up with a kid because they the other guy liked
watching anime two and now it's bad. No one tried,
no one tried. We have no ambition in the dating pool.

(01:30:46):
Right now, it's over.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
And all of the women were not told how to
take care of a man, and men were told how
to take care of a female but not shown how
to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Yeah, bad decisions, no accountability, too much independence, and then
it's over. I'm tired. Can we end?

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
Yeah? Boys, we'll see you fucking next time, see you
fucking later. Use code ARMT has to check out at
g fuel or verls if I go, check out the
merch and we'll see you fucking next time. Boys,

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