Returning from the sunshine of Florida to the frosty embrace of home brought a mix of joy and challenges, a journey Adam and I, Michael, recount with warmth and humor. Ever wondered about the true fashion crime of bucket hats? We tackle this hard-hitting issue, fueled by listener feedback, while also sharing heartwarming stories from our leisure community, like Rob Menser’s update on the RAIN event and Armando’s inspiring comeback story. We keep the laughs going with a spirited debate about whether you "call in sick" or "call out sick," driven by your opinions.
Our exploration takes a detour to Millsboro, Delaware, a town known for its weather extremes. From its origins as Rock Hole Mills to its current identity, Millsboro's story is a fascinating blend of history and climate trivia that kept our listeners guessing until the reveal. Shoutout to everyone who engaged with us in this segment and successfully identified the town. Your participation adds richness to our episodes, and we love featuring your guesses and opinions.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Well, it's time for Road Adventures with Cycling Men
of Leisure, the podcast forcyclists who understand that
riding is not just about gettingto the destination, but the
experience along the way.
Now here are the originalCycling Men of Leisure Adam and
Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Welcome to Road Adventures of Cycling Men of
Leisure.
As usual, I am Adam and I amhappy once again virtually, not
because you're virtual, but I'mhappy to be joined once again
with my good friend, mr MichaelSharp.
How are you doing, sir, goodAdam?
How are you?
You know, you and I landed backfrom the great state of Florida
(00:54):
and I usually get told to bringwarm weather back with me, and
I completely failed at that.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, it is February.
Yes, just February, yeah, justsaying yeah Well, yeah well it's
going to be negative 10 heretonight, so don't feel so bad.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Is it really?
Yes, sir, wow, negative 10.
Let's see here I got a positive10.
Currently, I don't know whatthe low is, but oh, I could tell
you, hold on, oh, it's going tobe three.
Wow, consider yourself lucky.
You know what?
We were just in Florida and I'msure that I felt lucky, but you
(01:40):
were able to get back in theswing of things back home and
everything.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh yeah, no problems.
No problems at all.
Well you know, other than it'slike, oh gosh, I got to go, you
know, back to work and all that,but no, no problems.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, you know, I'm so glad we were able to record
together.
I'm getting lots of feedbackfrom my family and lots of text
messages going back and forth.
I mean, they do listen to theshow once in a while and I
understand, you know, family isone of those things.
In a podcast they're like ohyeah, we'll help you, we'll help
you get started and listen to acouple of shows, and some
(02:15):
family members you know areconsistent listeners.
Some are not, but this one.
My family has definitely beensending messages back and forth.
They're highly enjoying thisshow based upon our experiences
together with our, with our, ouradventures on the road.
And so I don't, I don't know,are you getting the same
traction on your side or?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
you know, I've heard several comments about that and
you know, do bucket hats affectyour intelligence?
Well, listen.
If you haven't listened to ourpast episode, listen to it and
we will help clue you in.
I own bucket hats, but there isa time and a place.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Well, my cousin Mark, our leisure community, my
cousin Mark wrote me and sent mea picture and he's at a
baseball game with a bucket hat,and so he wanted to let you
know that it does not affectyour intelligence, but he did
agree with you.
There's a time and a place towear a bucket hat.
So there you go, speaking ofour leisure community.
(03:15):
I'd like to highlight a fewthings.
So I hope I'm pronouncing thiscorrectly.
But Rob Menser, m E I N Z EMenzer, wrote us and after our
announcement of doing RAIN, hesays Glad to hear you guys are
taking a run at RAIN this year.
(03:35):
Would have been fun to join youin my home state but
unfortunately RAIN and RAGBRAIoverlap and I'm RAGBRAI bound
this year.
And thank you, rob, for takingthe time to write us.
Yeah, absolutely.
He gave us a screenshot of whatposition he finished in
(03:57):
position 88.
So I don't know how manywriters are there.
He said it was 23 years ago andhe just said he really hopes
that your training, he's givingyou a little support virtually
because he said it's, if it's nojoke, as a ride, especially if
it's hot.
So he's sending some trainingsupport to you, sir.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And I appreciate that .
I, you know, can use all thetraining support I can get.
The good news is, I don't.
You know, you're right, 165miles is no joke.
Uh, fortunately, you and I havedone that distance before.
So, um, you know we have thatgoing for us.
It's not going to be complete.
Uh, you know, shell shock, butyou're right, I gotta start
(04:38):
riding now, right early, right,right early right often I have
an Armando update Okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
So you and I recently got together with Armando in
Florida and he is a veryfamiliar figure to our show with
an unfortunate accident, andthen, of course, people wanting
to know how he's doing.
I can officially announce,ladies and gentlemen, armando is
(05:09):
coming back to big brag, sothere we go yes, that'll be nice
.
So, uh, just got theconfirmation today.
He will be part of cycling menof leisure, and I wanted
everyone to know that.
Yes, even though he had alittle bit of a tumble last year
some vision issues uh, he'sbeen riding like crazy, been
(05:31):
traveling like crazy too, but,um, he is officially signed up
and you will get to see mrarmando at big brag 2025.
So awesome, looking forward toit.
That'll be fun.
Uh, mr Scott Garwick wasrecently at the Winter Lux Bragg
ride.
Got a lot of pictures.
So did you, by the way.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And his picture was on the Bragg website too.
That's right, wearing ourcycling.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Men of leisure t-shirts.
That's right.
He wanted to let us know thathe stopped for a hot dog and his
wife put ketchup on the hot dogas she should and he gave the
emoji that he's throwing up.
But this is very interesting.
You and I had a little bit of acontroversy.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Not controversy is very interesting you and I had a
little bit of a controversy,not controversy.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
We just had a conversation and then we thought
it'd be funny to add to theshow about whether you call in
sick or call out sick.
Um, so far it's not lookinggood for your side because
that's because nobodyunderstands it well, I think
they understand.
Are you calling?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
in sick.
I myself am calling my boss,I'm calling out sick because I'm
not going in.
So it's okay, it's a regionalthing.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Armando said I did not stay home from work often in
my career but when I did Icalled in sick.
I wrote that I'm mostinteresting man in the world
voice Armando, yes, sick, Iwrote I wrote that, uh, I'm most
interesting man in the worldvoice, voice, armando yes, I'm,
you know I okay so I lost thatone too melanie says that.
(07:15):
She said I'm sorry, michael,this one I have to go with adam,
I call in sick.
Um scott says he calls in sick.
Actually I hate to say this.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I guess I'm looking at the sick part.
I'm not in sick, I'm out sick.
That's what I look at.
Calling boss to tell you I'mout sick today.
I'm not in sick today, I'm outsick today.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, ever since COVID, there's no such thing as
calling in anymore.
Get on your computer and workfrom home.
That's right, get back to it.
We did have a couple guessesfor listener spotlight.
I'm going to save that for asecond.
But you and I gave some verbaland, I guess, visual, if you
(08:02):
watched on YouTube support forCricket, scott's wife and she
said just finished listeningwith Scott, we really enjoyed
the show.
They extremely loved theshout-out.
Well, here you go, cricket.
Here's another.
Another shout-out.
She says she is definitelywriting Cool, just decided in
how many days and they have alistener spotlight guest.
(08:22):
But I'll save that for a second.
We talked about our friend jeffwith the weather and helping us
and and, uh, I talked to himand he said his daughter loved
when we talked about him.
You know he had.
He had his daughter in the car.
Yesterday was her birthday and,um, he took the day off to
spend with her and so he playedthe show and she thought it was
(08:43):
so cool that her dad was beingmentioned on the show.
So that was nice so she made anappearance today, and so I sang
my best rendition of happybirthday that a child would
enjoy.
Every adult would jump off abridge when I sang, but she at
least thought it was fun.
So, um, I believe wait a minutewe do have some people who have
(09:13):
signed up for our team to be onbrag, and so we we got four
more members and so awesome.
So we will definitely beheading there.
If you didn't catch the lastshow, let's see here.
This will be too late Comes outon March 2nd.
So we have our team.
(09:34):
So that's it that we're stillgathering members.
But as of this point but what Iwill say is what you've said
before and I'd like to mirrorwhat you said Please check with
me, because if you feel likeyou're supposed to be on the
team and you're hearing this andyou haven't had a chance to
(09:55):
check with me Stephanie's beenvery gracious Please just make
sure write me.
I can sum up that you weresupposed to be on the team or
verify for you, and I have hadsome people email me.
Uh, after our last show thatcame out and just verified.
So, um, luckily, I've been ableto say yes to every one of
those people so far.
So, um, things are working andand we're going to have a very
(10:19):
large team and we're prettyexcited men and ladies team.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
So here's what you need to do If you want to make
sure you're on the team, call into Adam for that verification.
That's right.
The other thing, though, youknow, yeah, even if you don't
want to join our team, join ateam.
That's what I'm going to say.
Join a team, because I've donethese rides by myself and I've
(10:48):
done them with a team.
That's what I'm gonna say.
Join a team because I've donethese rides by myself and I've
done them with a team, and theteam just adds a whole different
dimension to the, to the ride.
So well, yeah, I agree, you know, I I think a lot of people are
like, oh, you, just, you justwant us on your team, on your
team.
You know what?
Yeah, I'd love to haveeverybody join us on our team,
but, uh, I think everybodyshould, um, do it in a team
setting because, number one,you've got extra support there
(11:09):
because there's always somebodythere on your team that will
support if you're having a roughday or stuff like that.
I think it just makes it alittle bit more fun than just
doing it by yourself.
I just wanted to.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Can I give a perfect example of what you're talking
about?
Sure, what was the first thingI said when I busted my rim last
year at brag?
What?
Who did?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I well, I can't say what you.
You said the first thing whenyou busted your rim, but that's
true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But the first thing I said when we got in the hotel
room was I needed to contact ourteam member scott, that I knew
that he had family in the area,that I knew that he had family
in the area, that I knew that hehad bike parts.
He had knowledge and we did.
We ran into him and and he said, unfortunately at that point,
that what are your couple ofrecommendations?
And luckily I was able to finda rim.
But by having a team member youhave more resources, you know,
(12:00):
and so you can, you can bouncearound.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yes, here's an example.
Another example Okay, I went upto the great state of Michigan
a few years ago with yourselfand Joe and some other people to
ride the one-day ride acrossMichigan.
Odorim and forgot my shoes,left them in my car and let me
(12:27):
tell you, everybody in ourlittle group, our little team,
was hopping on throwing outideas, calling people they know,
working on trying to remedy theproblem.
So it is nice to have thatextra layer of support there.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I completely agree, and what's funny is here we had
all those people in the hotelroom.
It was a cabin, but in thatcabin and we were all exhausting
our resources because we were,we were all away from home.
If we all been home, I thinkbetween joe and I we could have
whipped up about 10 pairs ofcycling shoes for you, and we
were just out in the middle ofnowhere.
(13:01):
So, um, but you made it, man,you made it, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, but it was nice , uh, even from a mental point
of view, going, oh cred, Iscrewed up, this is all on me.
But you know what?
You guys just jumped in andlike, started, you know,
throwing out, well, we could dothis, maybe we could do that,
maybe you could do this.
I'm going to call this personand see, and so so it is.
It is nice to have that, thatlayer of uh, of support there.
(13:26):
So join a team, give it a try,that's right.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
That's right.
Um, so we are excited.
Um, as far as we're concerned,we last year we were, you know,
we were able to have close to 10, but Franklin was wonderful to
us.
This year we have over 10ladies.
We actually have the CyclingWomen of Leisure team and we're
excited that we're going to havemore than 10 ladies.
(13:51):
So that's exciting.
Well, I think that's it.
I've gone through our leisurecommunity.
By the way, for those of youwho take a few minutes out of
your life to write us, tell uswhat you think, Michael and I
both just want to say thank you.
We love that you do that.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Even though you seldom agree with me.
Thank you anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
We appreciate you taking the time I mean I
appreciate our communitycommitting and at least
confirming that I'm normal.
So I really appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Well, I didn't hear any of them confirm that, but
you take it however you'd like,sir.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I'm going to take a little time.
Hey, no singing.
Okay, yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry.
I think, without further ado,we have an interview coming up
which I'm excited that we share.
That should be good.
But before we do that, why donwe, uh, do our normal thing?
Listener, spotlight.
I got my toys back, man fan.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
fantastic.
All right, listener, spotlight.
Uh, here are the clues.
Early settlers were primarilyEnglish.
This town let me try to putthem in order In the early 1900s
there was over 15 mills gristand saw mills within four miles
(15:17):
of this community.
Originally, the town had adifferent name, but it was
changed prior to 1810.
Originally, the town had adifferent name, but it was
changed prior to 1810.
It was established in the 1790sbut it was not incorporated
until the 1890s.
Okay, and this town is knownfor extremes.
(15:41):
Okay is known for extremes.
Okay, and I think I also threwin there that other industries
for this town included poultryagriculture and canneries.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So I've got two guesses.
One doesn't actually give aphysical city, but I want to
give credit, uh, cricket, creditwhere credit is due for cricket
, if I could say that.
Wow.
Um, she says, listening tospotlight guests with the
gristmills, she is thinkingbelow the mason dixon line,
(16:20):
doesn't actually uh, name a city, but just wants to throw that
out there.
And and then we did get a newYouTube follower.
So, yes, if you're not familiar, we do put the show on YouTube
and I'm trying to find it.
Sorry for the delay here, gotit.
And to SenseScape, angie Raffeyshe is saying that is it Rock
(16:53):
Run Maryland?
Okay, so appreciate the twoguesses.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So the city that's actually being guessed is Rock
Run, maryland, and then Cricketis saying below the Mason,
somewhere below the Mason-Dixonline, and I did actually have
another clue I threw in therethat it might be a good place if
you are a remote worker, so allright.
What's that, tahiti?
(17:16):
I don't think you're gettingmuch work done there.
No, are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, transportation buses are running.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I'm doing my job one big circle right around that
island um yeah, all right.
Well, uh, certainly.
Thank both of our guesses.
I am sorry to say that neitherof them are correct.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
But our listener spotlight for this episode is
Millsboro, Delaware.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Okay, millsboro Delaware, thank you for your
listenership, but we'll letMichael tell us a little bit
more.
But, as I usually do, thank youall listeners.
But thank you, millsboroDelaware.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yes, early settlers were driven to the area they
were primarily English to jointhe timber industry, and the
timber drive that was going onObviously had lots of grist and
saw mills.
Originally this town was calledrock hole mills, but it was
(18:29):
changed to Millsboro.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think that's a good change.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, you know rock hole mills.
Yeah, no, uh, this town isknown for extremes.
This town has recorded thecoldest temperature in the state
of Delaware, which was back in1893.
It's negative 17 degrees.
It also recorded the hottesttemperature in the state, back
(18:53):
in 19, I think, 38 at 110degrees.
Wow.
And what is interesting is thisonly one of three cities in the
US to record both the recordhigh and the record low
temperatures, and those othertwo places were Chester,
massachusetts, and Warsaw,missouri.
(19:13):
And as far as being a goodplace for remote workers, 2021
PC Magazine named it one of thetop 50 states in the US and
Canada for remote working.
Any reason why?
Because it's a nice place toremote work from.
(19:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You put me on this spot there.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm just wondering,like I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I'm just wondering,like I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I've got really good, you know fiber, internet and
lots of coffee shops to go hangout in, I guess we go.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes, I thought Lake Nona Orlando area was a
wonderful place to remote workmyself.
But OK, I appreciate youmentioning that.
I was just wondering if it waslike because of outdoor coffee
shop.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I think we've already answered that question.
It's a great place to remotework, because what else are you
going to do there when you havethe high and the low extremes
like that?
Stay inside and work.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I was going to say you're close to the negative 17
tonight.
Oh it's going to be real close.
Hey, seriously, when you werereading that I was thinking
about that.
Didn't you have a football game?
I mean, I know we didn't talkabout this ahead of time, but
wasn't like the football gamethat you had at the Arrowhead
Stadium or whatever GHB orwhatever the heck it is?
Wasn't it like negative 10 lastyear at one of those games?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It was, and if I remember right, that was the
third coldest football gameprofessional football game on
record.
I think you're right, it wasn'tthe coldest, but it did make
top three.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And I know that you and I were like usually during
the games if no one knows, wetext each other and sometimes
one guy who was standing upwithout his shirt on, both of
you and I were like, ooh, that'sgoing to not be good tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
He's going to the hospital with hypothermia or
frostbite or both.
But you know, at thattemperature I'm sorry, I can't
really enjoy the game at thattemperature.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I enjoyed it very much.
I hit pause.
I wanted to go to the bathroomIn my living room in front of my
fireplace.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
It was awesome.
Let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Well, listen, I really appreciate you always
having the listener spotlight.
Ladies and gentlemen, onceagain, the the listener
spotlight.
Ladies and gentlemen, onceagain that was listener
spotlight.
I love having my toys back.
So, um, we have something we'reabout to play here.
Um, this is pre-recorded, fulltransparency.
You would know that if youwatched on youtube, because I
(21:41):
will have a different shirt onand so will you, and there'll be
different views and everything.
But, uh, hopefully, uh, itplays well.
We, um, throughout the years ofdoing cycling, have continuously
seen padres cycling charteralong the way.
Uh, we met these gentlemen um,jimmy and dave.
(22:01):
Um, and I want to let theinterview play out, but we met
these gentlemen last year atshoreline.
We were at a outdoor brewerywith a fire pit and gentlemen
came up and started talking toyou and said what is this
cycling men of leisure about?
Um, later on in the week, wesat down with the gentleman at
traverse city whiskey um said,hey, we should do an interview,
(22:22):
you know, when we get later onin the season, and that's
exactly what we did.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And so, yeah, we've got the inside.
Look at what a you know cyclingin is all about, so it'll be
fun.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
So, without further ado, let me please play this
interview and we'll be back togive some comments.
Hey, michael, we have someextremely special guests today.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
We do indeed, this is exciting.
We've been to a lot of ridesthat these guys have been on and
so it's going to be fun to talkto them and we just keep seeing
them.
And we actually ran into themlast year at an event and had a
chance to sit down and talk tothem and I kind of felt like I
knew these guys becauseeverywhere we went we kept
running into them.
So this will be good.
(23:10):
Who?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
do we got?
We have Jimmy and Dave fromPadre Cycling Inn.
Jimmy and Dave, let me welcomeyou.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Thank you.
Thank you very much, happy tobe here.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Well, we appreciate you taking your time this
evening.
So we did meet you last year atShoreline in person and then we
happened to end up in TraverseCity at Traverse City Whiskey,
which was a good.
Oh sorry, A little bit of asidetrack there, but can you
tell us, Padres?
We've seen you multiple places.
(23:42):
How did you get the name?
Where did it come from?
Tell us a little bit aboutyourself, Jimmy, you want to
handle that Sure.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
So the business was in existence in 2007 by the
original owner, who was thePadre.
He got his name.
We actually got an email theother day from the person who
named him and apparently thisperson said hey, you're Padre
(24:10):
because he was also a minister.
On the side, he was a retiredpolice officer, but he was also
a minister and he lived in atown called Mexico, Missouri.
So you take a Mexican ministerand you have a Padre.
I love it.
Padre.
He got his start from Bubba.
Bubba Barron Bubba's PamperedPeddlers was also a retired
(24:33):
police officer and they werefriends and Bubba had a business
going and he said there wassome room in the industry for
another person.
So Padre took it on and createdhis own side business and, kind
of Bubba took him under hiswing and it was all kind of from
there.
Then in uh, 2014, um, I wastalked into by a friend of mine
(24:59):
to do rag braai and he was usingPadre Cycle Inn.
So I used Padre Cycle Inn, so Iwas a customer and then the
next year I talked Dave intodoing it with me and, kind of
funny story, because I was, youknow, I was happy to do either
way camp myself.
I've done a lot ofself-supported stuff too, so I
(25:21):
was happy to just camp myself.
Said Dave, what do you want todo?
You want to get chartered or doyou want to self-support?
He's like well, if we're ridingall the way across Iowa,
someone else is putting up ourtent.
So we became customers both ofus, and that was the year that
the business became for sale.
So we knew that going intoRAGBRAI that year we kind of
(25:44):
looked at, kind of watched thebusiness and said you know these
are the things you need to doto have this business and you
know it's an existing businesswe could purchase.
And by the end of the week wehad decided that we were going
to.
I was going to say we weregoing to buy it, but we were
going to go home and getpermission from our wives to buy
the business.
(26:04):
And of course, they said, sure.
So what?
30 days later, dave, we ownedthe business.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
so uh what, 30 days later, dave we own the business
we own this uh charter chartercompany well, I'll tell you what
those friends who talk to youinto rag braai.
I'll tell you.
You gotta watch friends likethat yep no, we're great people.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
What can we say?
So you guys have been you.
So you guys have been cyclingfor a long time and this
opportunity came up and you'rejust like I think this would be
a great idea and you took overthe business and now you're
going to.
How many different rides thisnext year?
I think it's seven rides thisyear.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Jimmy, Maybe it's seven.
Let me see.
Here I'm going to help youcheat One, two, three, four,
five.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Is this your Jimmy?
Maybe it's seven.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Let me see, here I'm going to help you cheat One, two
, three, four, five, six, seven,eight.
I got Katie Trail for you.
Yep, peddler's Jamboree Brag,ragbri, shoreline, dolmac and
Bourbon Burn.
That's correct.
Let's see here, we're going tosee you at Bragg, bourbon Burn,
bourbon Burn.
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We've seen you at Shoreline.
We've seen you at Dalmac.
We've seen you at Ragwry.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
We'll see you at the beginning of the season and the
end.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
There we go, that's right.
So I got to add one thing.
You said Mexico, missouri, andI just find it really
interesting.
I actually went to school inMexico, missouri, missouri
Military Academy is there.
I was a little bit of not onthe right path.
My parents said, guess what?
You're going to military school.
And so that's kind of when Iread your little bit about you
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on your About Us page on yourwebsite, which, by the way, is
PadresCycleIncom as we'retalking about this, if you're
curious, these guys arephenomenal guys.
If you're looking for charterservices, we're going to get
into what actually they do herein a little bit, but if you're
looking for it, please go toPadrescycleincom.
So interesting.
So I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
What I think is interesting is we've seen you
guys for several years here andthere and everywhere and all
these different rides, and hadnever really talked to you.
And we were at shoreline lastyear at mackinac.
They had a little get togetherat a, at a brewery, and I and I
still remember it, I think itwas you, jimmy you came walking
up to me and you were like so Ikeep seeing these cycling men of
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leisure stuff around.
What is that all about?
Yep, and we wound up chattingthere for quite a while and met
several of your uh, of your crew, uh, people.
And then, I believe, two dayslater, at uh at Traverse city,
uh, we all wound up in adistillery, uh, sampling some
some local uh, you know brew,local distilled spirits, so to
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speak, I guess.
So it was really kind ofinteresting because we had never
ever really talked, except thenwe finally wound up together.
So that was kind of cool.
I think.
Where I want to start at withthe whole thing is for the
people who don't know anythingabout, who maybe haven't
participated in a week-longevent or who have participated,
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say, at RAGBRAI, and use justthe RAGBRAIai service.
What do you guys offer?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
so we offer two different sizes of tents.
So essentially, rather thanbringing your own tent, bring in
your own camping gear willprovide a tent for you.
You can pick from a regularsize tent, which is a three-man
tent, or you can pick from asix-man tent, which gives you a
space to stand up, walk aroundin there.
It makes it easier for changing.
You can have one person or twopeople in that tent.
When I say two people, a guestof yours, not somebody you get
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matched up with.
So you can do a large or aregular size tent and then we
put that up every day.
We take it down every day, ourcrew does.
We move it to the next town.
In addition to that, we'll takeluggage and have it at your
tent every day.
So when you wake up in themorning, you pack up your bags,
you set your luggage outsideyour tent and then we'll grab
that luggage, we'll put it inour truck and we'll take it to
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the next town and have itoutside your tent when you get
to your camp.
Then we also have snacks andbeverages, so we'll have sodas
that are available.
We have a charging station forelectronics.
You can charge your GPS unit,your phone, tablet, whatever you
might have.
We'll have chairs.
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It's a wide hot day.
You've got shade where you canjust sit there.
You can grab a soda or water orwhatever it might be.
Relax for a few minutes beforeyou worry about anything else.
Grab a snack, talk to someother customers, talk with one
of us, and then you can head toyour tent, where your luggage is
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, and take care of things.
We also provide shower towels.
We have, so you don't have tobring your own towels disposable
shower towel.
So one less thing to worryabout.
We also have hot coffee in themornings.
Then we'll have ice, uh,powdered gatorade or gatorade
available in the mornings too.
So when you start your morning,we don't provide meals, but
we'll have a couple of snacksthat are available to get you on
your way, as well as coffee tofuel up your morning too.
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So, and then, we also have bikeracks, so when you come into
camp, you can put your bike on abike rack and not have to worry
about laying it in the ground,or where do I put it?
Jimmy?
What did I miss?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I think you covered it.
But one thing I wanted to addis that is the same service that
we will provide for any eventthat you use our services, so it
doesn't change Like we don't.
You know, some charters mightoffer certain things on RAGBRAI
but then they don't offer thosecertain things on another event.
But if you go to any of ourcamping events we provide all of
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those same services.
That's, you know, of course,different for our Katy Trail
event, which I guess we'll talkabout that at some point, but
that's a hotel based event, sothose services will be a little
bit more different and forpeople who don't like the heat
or they don't like sleeping in atent, that might be more up
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their alley cool.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
So I will tell you, last year, at shoreline, your
camp in the traverse city campseemed so valuable to me.
I wasn't part of you.
I wish I was at that timebecause, as I passed, that was a
long day and there yourbeautiful chairs were sitting
and I saw all of your guestsrelaxing and I thought that
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should be me right there.
And Michael, I think you'reright.
If no one realizes what that is, if you do, just as a
comparison, if you do an eventthat doesn't have a charter
service, you come in and you'regoing to the baggage truck and
you got your bike and you gotyour bags.
And now what?
Now you're either walking withyour bike and walking with your
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bags.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well, stop right there, Adam, because you made
that sound really super easy.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
You go to the baggage truck and there's like 300 or
more people's bags in there.
They're now strewn all over thelawn.
You now have to go through andfind your bag and of course
you're going to pick a bagbefore you go that you think
nobody else is going to have.
And then you're going to find50 people that have the exact
same bag, exact same color, andthen, if it's like one of the
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first days when they bring yourbike, I mean your bikes are just
all.
So I mean it's more than just,oh, I'm going to grab my bag and
go.
It's a lengthy process so I candefinitely see where.
If my bag's just waitingoutside of my tent, that would
be beautiful.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You mean it's not the green REI one that I bought
that no one else could buy atthe same time.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
No, Believe it or not , everybody else bought that
same bag on sale.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
So one of my questions would be is sometimes
it rains, believe it or not.
How do you guys handle bags ondays it rains?
I've seen, I think I saw maybetarps or something.
Uh-oh, jimmy, you got mutedbuddy.
Yep, sorry, no, don got mutedbuddy.
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Yep, sorry, no, don't be sorry.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Things happen.
I'm trying to mute myself.
I've got a little bit of acough, but on Shoreline you
probably saw some tarps over theregular baggage trucks.
They'll park their truck andthen they start unloading all
the bags onto the ground andthen it never fails.
One of those days it's going torain and it rains on
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everybody's bags.
So they have a big roll ofclear plastic that they'll try
to put over it to keep it dry.
We try to keep the luggage inour box truck, in our baggage
truck, until every tent is setand everything like that, and
then we can then decide allright, is this clear,
everything's clear.
We can start taking the luggageout.
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So if we do get a shower orwhatever, that luggage isn't
just sitting around getting wet,it's in the baggage truck.
We have had it.
We had an incident last yearwhere we were ready and then all
of a sudden, out out of nowhere, there was a spot storm.
But it's better than havingthat stuff out, sitting out
there all day and hoping thatthat piece of plastic doesn't
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blow away on you.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I think that's huge.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
We'll also keep an eye on weather.
As far as is it hot, so do wewant to keep the doors open on
the tents to ventilate them andso that when you get into your
tent and it's not baking andthen we kind of weigh that
against.
Well, what's the chance of rain?
So if it's going to rain, we'regoing to zip those tents up so
that way, if their luggage hasbeen delivered, we don't put it
inside all the way inside thetent, but we'll put it in the
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vestibule, and if we zip thatclosed it'll stay dry once it's
been delivered.
So there's a lot of watchingthe weather throughout the day,
making sure you know we're readyfor whatever the case may be,
whether it's strong winds orrain showers or anything else
that's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I think something to mention here and just for myself
.
The difference between when wehad a charter versus not having
a charter is you're talkingabout the tents and you're going
to check the ventilation andeverything.
I can remember many mornings ofrag bar.
I getting up, you know it'stent poles are starting at four,
45 in the morning, five o'clockin the morning your tent is
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soaking wet from the dew beingout there in a cornfield and
then the bags get.
I mean the tent gets rolled upand you know, if I don't have a
charter and then if I ride allday in the saddle, then when I
set up my tent it's dewy and wetand I think one of the things
that you guys offer as a charteris obviously it has time to dry
out.
I mean even, or I'm not sure.
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I mean I know the gentleman Imet last year at Shoreline told
me that you don't put the tentsaway wet, so maybe he has to
wait.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
If it's really dewy in the morning, we will put the
tents away.
We'll roll them up wet, butchances are they're going to be
completely dry when anybody, bythe time anyone gets there.
I mean, if we've got a soaker,you know we've got rain all day
long.
It's camping.
You know there's not a lot youcan do about it.
You're out in the nature.
But on a typical day during thesummer, on any of the events we
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support, by the time we get thetents set up early afternoon,
you know riders are coming in.
You know later on the eveningeverything's been dried out so
you, you go ahead, michael, I'msorry.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I was just going to say a couple of things.
Number one I am interested inand I forget what town, but we
were like camp literally rightnext to you on shoreline, and I
saw your guys putting up thetents and all that kind of stuff
.
Or who am I kidding?
I saw the tents being put up.
That would insinuate that I wasin early enough to see you guys
put up the tents.
They had already put up thetents.
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If I am participating and I'mone of your people, how do I
know where my tent is?
Because you guys I don't knowhow many you had 50, 60, I don't
know.
How do I know where to go whenI get there?
Do you have assigned spots thatmy tent is in this spot?
Every?
You know I'm three over fromthe on the fourth row, or how do
you do that?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
So when you, when every customer checks into the
beginning of the week, we assignthem a tent.
So they'll get a wristband thatwill have their tent letter and
number on it and they'll be inthat same tent all week.
So that is one of the nicethings in this day and age is
you don't have to worry aboutgetting switched to a different
tent that somebody else slept inlast night as well.
As if you happen to leavesomething in your tent maybe
hopefully something small thenit's going to be in that tent a
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little bit later too.
But after we get all the tentsset up, usually if you're next
to somebody you're probablygoing to be next to them for
most of the week because of ourorder of setting up the tents
and taking them down.
But every day, after we get allthe tents up, we'll put a map up
and we'll group certain tentstogether.
We group all of our small tentstogether.
We put all of our single tentstogether, large singles and
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large doubles.
So that's one way to know.
Hey, this is the large doublearea.
But then we'll have a mapthat's up that customers can
take a look.
They can go to one of our crewmembers and we're happy to point
them in the direction of wheretheir tent is, and the number of
tents will vary depending onRAGBRAI.
It's usually our largest event,but Bragg's been growing a lot
and been a pretty good event forus these days.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Okay.
I was always interested aboutthat.
But let me tell you, when theyput these tents, I mean it kind
of looks like a militaryinstallation.
I mean they don't justhaphazardly stick them around.
You guys got them in nicestraight lines and it's
well-organized.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Michael, what I'm hearing is you better be nice to
your neighbor, I mean becauseyou're going to be with them all
week long.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
That's where your tent is.
Yeah, don't tick off theneighbor, because you have to
live with them for another fouror five days.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Jimmy, you talked about baggage and how we'll keep
the baggage away, and I thinkone of the things that I and
Michael can attest to this thatI so my first RAGBRAI or
anything like this, any kind ofride that you're providing
services for was mine was 2016.
And course I teased michaelabout those friends who get you
into rag braai.
I mean, now we do this crazystuff all the time, but at the
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time they're like hey, what doyou think about riding across
iowa?
I'm like I think you're nuts.
And now I've done it five times.
So, uh, I guess I'm the onewho's nuts.
But, um, at home you startthinking about gathering gear
and lug, I mean, all your stuffthat you're getting.
How does the customer know howmuch stuff they can bring?
Do you have limitations or howdoes that work?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
We do.
We have limitations whichexceed, like most of the
standard baggage trucks that arejust part of the event.
I think we allow like aboutdouble what Rag Bride does, I
think, for example, which isbasically two bags, 40 pounds or
less each.
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So 80 pounds of baggage perperson, per event.
And you know, if you thinkabout doing Rag Bride, I think
you can bring 50 pounds total.
You still got to get your tentin there, an air mattress if you
want it, your bedding, a chair,maybe things that you might not
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, or things that you won't needif you're using Padres.
So you don't have to pack atent, you don't have to pack a
towel or two, so a variety ofthose types of things.
Um, that saves space.
So we also have on our websitelike a list of suggested items
that's just kind of accrued overthe you know or the time.
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And you know if, if a customersays, oh, I brought this and I,
I, you know you got to have thaton your list and we'll put it
on there.
It's not a be all end all list.
Some people want a fan, somepeople don't want a fan, you
know there's different things,um, but it's a good.
It's a good list to look at,because it gets you thinking, it
gets you preparing and then itgets you saying oh wait, that
reminds me I should bring X, yor Z Um so that's helpful but
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being able to bring 80 pounds ofbag of stuff in your bags for
as many as seven days.
My first RAGBRAI, I think I woretwo kits the whole week.
I just washed and dried andwashed and dried every other day
.
You can do it all kinds of ways.
We have minimalists that'llbring a backpack.
We're like how is that personspending the whole week riding
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and not smelling like garbagewith just a backpack full of
stuff?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
so you've got other people all the way across the
state.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
Dollar general and then you got other people who
max it out all the way and Imean they're probably bring more
things than they need well thethings you don't need to bring
um things like a bike pump.
I mean, you might want to have abike pump for your bike mounted
to your bike, but you knowwe've got the full towers.
Um, you know, if you're someonewho wants those types of things
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, you don't have to worry aboutbringing those types of things.
We've got those in camp.
We got maintenance stand forbikes, bike pumps, the racks,
all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
That is nice because, yeah, I mean, michael, you and
I have both changed our.
I mean, each time we go out, wewe think, okay, well, how about
this, how about that?
because, before um, aligningwhat you're saying, jimmy, I
would be the guy who my firstyear probably brought the
kitchen it was ridiculous in thehouse and uh, and then I
realized what I did was thatfirst, rag bride, when I got
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home, on the right side of mygarage I put everything that I
actually put my hands on throughthe week.
And then on the left side, Iput things that I never even
touched and in the middle wherethings were even though I didn't
touch it, I was still wouldn'tmind having.
And then I took some pictureswith my phone and I still, each
time I out, I'm like, okay, well, I tell you what.
And now, michael and I, you andI kind of join them like how
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about I bring this, you bringthis, even to try to get it
smaller so we can share.
And so, um, which I?
I know you're right.
I've seen the guys who get onthe bus and they've got one rei
backpack and I'm like where'sthe rest of your stuff?
And they're like this is it.
I'm going across the state thisway.
I'm like, okay, good luck toyou.
Michael, you remember we werein RAGBRAI.
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Our charter at the time hadparked next to the RAGBRAI
trailer and they had the scale.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
People were in line to get to the scale.
Like at the airport.
You're over 50 pounds.
Take something out.
Get out of here.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
What about?
A lot of times, michael and I,when we do brag, we choose to
fly in.
Uh, this year we've decided tofly to atlanta and then we're
gonna um, we're gonna go to romeand rent a car.
Go up to rome um, we would havebike boxes.
But if someone flew to one ofyour events, would you be able
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to accommodate travel cases andstuff?
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yeah, we do.
We've got a box truck thattransports all the luggage, so
we do have situations wheresomebody has a bike bag they
need transported for the week.
So we'll handle that at timesand it's not something we
advertise but it's definitelysomething we can accommodate.
It's one of those we try tounder promise over deliver.
So if a customer needssomething, we'll try to see if
it's something that makes sensethat we can handle and help them
out with.
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That's perfect.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
CPAP.
If somebody has you talkedabout plugging things in.
If someone has CPAP, are youguys accommodate CPAPs, cpap or
are you guys accommodate CPAPs?
Speaker 4 (44:49):
Yeah, we have a couple events Dalmac and
Shoreline, I guess where thenthe bourbon burn a little bit
too, where we know we're goingto have electricity available
because the right organizers aregoing to make sure that there's
electricity.
That's there.
So in those circumstances weask customers just bring an
extension cord, and we canhandle it in that way.
We just last year decided tostart testing out another
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approach for some of the otherevents where we don't have
electricity, and that is, we'vepurchased and rent out CPAP
batteries.
So basically it's a kind of aninverter where you can plug a 12
volt or 110 volt into it or runall night long.
We tested it out on an event.
Worked very well, so we boughta few more of them, and so now
we have those available for renton some of our different events
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, like Rag Bry and Brag andwhat's kind of handy about it
that we didn't realize wasmainly there for CPAP use.
But there's USB-C outlets on it.
You can plug, charge your phoneovernight.
There's a light on it too, soyou can use it as a tent light.
So it's kind of multipurpose,and what happens is the customer
just drops it off with us inthe morning, we take care of it.
We make sure that it gets allcharged up by the end of the day
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.
When they're ready to go to bed, they just come and grab it
from us and take it to theirtent and works overnight for
them.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
That's wonderful, michael.
You and I were just recently inthe Sky Club on Friday and they
had a whole wall of thosethings, because they don't have
plugs for everybody in OrlandoSky Club and they have a whole
wall of those things you canrent out to charge computers and
everything.
I mean we've come a long waywith many, many batteries and
stuff, so that's wonderful Water.
So you said you talked aboutsnacks and stuff.
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So if I'm trying to fill mywater bottle up, I assume that
you stage near or around freshwater or have fresh water
available for the cyclist tostart off in the morning.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
Yeah, we'll have a variety of different water
coolers out.
Some of them will have ice coldwater in them.
We try to always have one thathas lemonade in it, and then, on
a larger event like Bragg Bride, we'll also have one that just
has the flavor of the daygatorade.
that's so that's cool if youbring in your own noon or
something like that, um, you canmake your own with the water,
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but if you just want to quickfill up with pre-made gatorade,
you can do that um which is aperk, really love that lemonade
in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
To me that's a perk because I I mean you do, ragbrai
, you're on your own.
I mean, michael, what about ourfriend Walter, when we were at
the 50th anniversary?
Ragbrai, our good buddy, we waswaiting in line.
He had taken the regularRAGBRAI camping in Des Moines,
right there in the middle ofthat big dirt field, and our
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charter had, you know, water andeverything.
And we were on our way and allof a sudden we looked up and our
good buddy from Georgia, and hesaid, hey guys, and I looked at
the line and it was like 60deep at least waiting for water.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
So it was like Whoa.
One thing I wanted to bring upis, if somebody is listening to
this and they are kind of thefirst timer or they don't
understand charters, there is adifference in charters.
There's different levels.
It's like anything else You'vegot.
You know, your your basic leveland then you build up and I
would say you guys are kind ofthe higher end level because on
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the basic end and and we've useda couple of charters for rag
braai, uh, just because we, youknow, we uh don't always like
where they they stick us ifwe're just with the rag braai
group and we don't want to haulour luggage that far, um, but we
have used charters where youbring your own tent, you bring
your own stuff, they tell you,you follow the signs going into
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town where they're going to beand your stuff is sitting there
and you know maybe it's rain,maybe it hasn't, maybe they
covered it, maybe they didn't.
And then you bring your stuffand you find your little camping
area within their domain thereand you set up your tent and you
haul your gear over and thatkind of stuff and your bike lays
on the ground and that type ofthing.
So when you're looking atcharters, there's different
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levels that you'll want to lookat.
You guys sound like you're doingit right.
I mean, you guys are soundinglike men of leisure should be
coming to you.
Because you guys are setting upthe tent.
I don't have to haul my baggageor anything like that.
I've got a nice rack.
I can set my bike up off theground.
So I just wanted for anybodyout there who wasn't familiar
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with charters is, there is amultitude of different services
offered.
Some offer just we're going tohave a signs place and we'll get
your luggage there and we'llhave a shade tent or something
for your enjoyment.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
So I just wanted to make sure everybody understood
that those levels existrealizing it like if they're
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listening to a podcast in thecomfort of their air-conditioned
car they're not thinking about.
The reality is you get on thatbike for 60, 80 miles a day, out
in the middle of the heat, outin the middle of iowa, or you
know, georgia or whatever, uhelevation in georgia this year,
or whatever um, and you come in,you come into camp and your
tent's already there and yourbag's already there and you're
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ready just to like go take yourshower, go find something to eat
.
You're not messing withanything.
I think that's one of the perksthat obviously you guys decided
to buy the business.
You know that.
But for someone who doesn'trealize, why should I charter
versus not charter?
Now, there could be the like yousaid, it could be the
minimalist.
I'm not doing that.
I've got my sleeping bag andI'm staying out in the open.
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Well, good luck.
You know, whatever I mean, eachperson could do it their own
way.
But let's, michael, only,unless you had some other things
, should we get into some oftheir events that they're doing?
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Yeah, I was wanting to chat about some of their
events they've got coming up andwas hoping you guys might be
able to fill us in, because Iknow most of them.
Like Adam said, we participatedin.
Most of them Don't knowanything about this Peddler
Jamboree, so tell us a littlebit about the events that you've
got coming up.
Speaker 5 (51:11):
Yeah, so Peddler's Jamboree is basically just a two
day event.
It's an out and back goes fromColumbia, missouri, out to
Boonville, missouri.
It's about 35 miles each way.
So it's a very leisurely event.
It's um, you know, a lot oftimes it's just the people who
do it.
That's the only time they're ontheir bike the whole year.
It's not, you know, it's notnecessarily all serious riders.
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A lot of people are dressed upin costumes or they decorate
their bikes.
But I'd say every 10 miles or soyou can stop and hear some
music.
Most stops are going to havefood and drink also.
So most stops are going to havefood and drink also.
And then when you get to thevery end, which is Boonville,
it's Kemper Park is the name ofthe park they, they host
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everything at.
There's a main stage.
I mean it's a full, large stagewith multiple bands and you
know they play music all nightlong.
You know, past midnight, justgoing to town, some of it's the
guy who runs off-track events iswho puts this event on.
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He loves the fact he's fromactually I think he's from Des
Moines, isn't he Dave?
Yeah, I think he is Originallyfrom.
Iowa, but he wants to try tokeep everything all the music
and even, like a lot of thecraft beers and things that are
on the event, local stuff.
So by local meaning likeMissouri Iowa area.
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So it's a lot of local music orsomewhat semi-local music to
the area, semi-local music tothe to the area, um, but anyway
you get to Kemper Park and thenyou can camp overnight, um, and
then the next day you ride allthe way back and then there's
music and stuff on the way backas well.
So it's a it's kind of like.
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It's kind of like a baby ragbride, but it's on the Katy
Trail um and the MKT, which is aconnector trail to the Katy
Trail.
So it's crushed limestone.
It's not a road ride, it's off,there's no traffic.
You know it's kind of a coolevent, but just a two-day deal.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Man, you're taking me down memory lane here.
So a little side note.
When I went to MissouriMilitary Academy in Mexico,
missouri here so little sidenote.
When I went to missourimilitary academy, mexico,
missouri, we would go to kempermilitary school and and kemper
military academy excuse me,kemper military academy and we
had a rivalry like a hundred andsomething.
Now it's unfortunately defunct.
Kemper military academy is gonenow.
But uh, we would play, you know, back and forth, you know for
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sports and stuff.
And then when you talk aboutcolumbia, missouri, my, my
parents would visit me inmilitary school.
We would go to the columbiamall back in the day and, uh, so
, man, you're taking me downmemory lane here.
That's, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
So, um, now, adam, I wish I could say I have no clue
what you're talking about, but Ispent a little time as a child
in columbia and I remember themall, so I've been there.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
Yeah, those, dorms are still there at Kemper park,
are they really?
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah, oh, wow.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
So so, basically, this ride is just like an hour
and a half down the road from me.
Speaker 4 (54:24):
Well, what are?
Speaker 2 (54:25):
you waiting for.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
I would need to bring a tent.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
I wouldn't have to do any of that stuff.
Okay, I thought you said youhad to bring a tent.
No, I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
No, you don't these guys will hook me up with a tent
, so perfect.
Speaker 4 (54:36):
You got it.
Guess we'll see you at the endof May.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
You never know.
I need all the help, all thetraining I can get between now
and you know brag, know brag.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
so how is that, uh peloton, how's it been going?
For you it's been moving okaygood.
The katie trail vacation tour.
Now this seems like somethingthat you're currently pushing,
because there are only 10 spotsremaining.
Eight, eight now.
Oh you, better update thiswebsite spots are going fast
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spots are going fast.
We should actually maybe putthis in before to help you get
to.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
So now is this a ride you guys are doing, or is this
okay?
So this is a ride that you guysare actually putting on.
Speaker 5 (55:21):
Yeah, this will be our first event that we're fully
supporting and our first eventthat has no tents.
All hotels, every mealsincluded breakfast, lunch,
dinner, every day.
So you know you got your hotelsincluded.
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Sag support.
We've got bike rental also.
That's available.
If people don't have a graveltype bike or anything, if they
only have a road bike, they canget a rental.
What else, dave?
Speaker 4 (55:54):
We'll have shuttle services that are available.
So when customers will meet usin the St Louis, St Charles area
, they'll fly into.
St Louis.
We'll provide a hotel on thatfirst night.
We'll check them in and thenwe'll shuttle them to the start
of the Katy Trail or to Clinton,missouri, and then we'll have
to the start of the Katy Trailor to Clinton Missouri, and then
we'll have they'll start ridingthere.
We'll provide commencingbreakfast, lunch, dinner and
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then each night we'll have alittle bit of a shuttle service
to see local spots.
If somebody wants to go andcheck out someplace here or
there that's in the town, we'llhave a van that's available in
order to shuttle people around alittle bit to, to and from
dinner, as well as other places,sites of interest.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
That's cool.
That's cool.
Well, I've got to say Clinton,missouri is not very far away
from where I'm at right thismoment.
What are you waiting for?
I'm waiting for the snowstormto get gone before I go over
there.
But, um, if you have not riddenor been to, uh, the Southern
half of the state of Missouri,you're missing out.
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It is beautiful.
So I would just say anybody whoreally wants to see beautiful
scenery, this would be a greatride to go on.
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
So hotels.
Speaker 5 (57:06):
Katie trail is you know, as far as a venue, the
Katy Trail is rated.
What was it?
Top five or something?
Yeah, Rail trails are in thecountry, so if not number one,
it might be number one If youGoogle rides that you should do
or trails you should do in theUS.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
It usually comes up in top five, top ten, and it's
mentioned in most articles thatmention rail trails or just
rides that you should do in theU?
S.
It usually comes up in top five, top 10.
And it's mentioned in mostarticles that mentioned rail
trails or just rides that youshould do in the United States.
It's a great trail.
We're lucky to live pretty muchon the trail in St Louis area
and you're not far from ityourself either, Michael.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
No, no, just, and unfortunately I haven't really
enjoyed a lot of it, so I kindof need to remedy that.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
So yeah, you'd stop going to michigan.
Oh wait, that's my fault.
Um, what kind of mileage if I'mat home?
Or if I'm in my life?
I'm training on a bicycle rightnow and listening to this.
What kind of mileage for thekatie trail each day?
Speaker 4 (58:04):
jimmy, you want to hit I think it's uh, what do we
have?
30 to 50 miles?
Speaker 5 (58:07):
Yeah, it's going to vary.
The trail is just under 240miles, so we're splitting that
by six days.
Okay, you're talking about anaverage of 40-mile a day.
That's nice, that's awesome.
Some will be a little bitlonger.
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It's nice.
Some will be a little bitlonger, some will be a little
bit shorter.
Just based on where we can getthe best places to get hotels or
B&Bs.
Sometimes you don't really havemuch of a choice because some of
the Katy Trail is just out, injust open undeveloped area, it's
just trees and you know theriver and you know beautiful
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scenery.
But then when you get in someof the towns, then you've got
the historic German town ofHermann, you got the first
Missouri capital of St Charles,you got the capital of Jeff City
.
So some of those towns are lotsto do when you get in there and
lots of history to see.
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If you're a history buff,definitely an event to do and if
you're into wine if you're intowine, herman is the place to go
for Missouri wine.
Speaker 3 (59:19):
I mean it's, it's incredible and everybody in the
Kansas city area is like takesthe train specifically for the
weekend to Herman, missouri, forno other reason than to hit all
the vineyards and things.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
So yeah, I see it.
I would answer what Michaelanswers to me.
Normally they don't have wineat your local store.
Why do you?
Got to take the train Just?
Speaker 3 (59:39):
kidding, because you're taking the train, you're
relaxed, you're leisuring.
Adam, come on.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
So I'm going to move to brag for a second.
So, um, franklin johnson,executive director of brag, has
multiple ways that you can brag.
You can do indoor camping,outdoor camping.
He works with hotel black dogluggage, um, for the outdoor
camping essentially.
Then then with the charterservice, not only could I do
outdoor camping, but then Icould also have a charter where
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same same services, where I'dcome into each town, everything
would all be set up for me.
So for Ragbri, pretty much NeilGlazebrook, the director there,
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events director, I think histitle is so just basically the
same thing You're coming in andyou guys have your own area,
which I was jealous of multipletimes.
Why didn't we do that?
Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
I guess brag and rag braai would be a little bit
different to where.
If you're using our charterservice, you might be on a
different spot.
You know you're not going to bemaybe adjacent to, uh, the main
camping, um, just because ofyou know logistics, size,
whatnot?
Um, whereas shoreline, dalmac,uh, the bour Burn, peddler's
(01:01:13):
Jamboree, we're all basicallyright there.
Um, you know a lot of theMichigan events are hosted by
schools.
Um, I think Shoreline is tryingto get away from that a little
bit, but it's typically been inschools.
So if their camping's at aschool, they're going to put us
just somewhere on that samecampus.
But then again, bragg, you knowhe might have one spot and then
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it might be a block over wherewe are.
Sometimes we are in the samespot but it's you know it's
typically been varied on thoseevents.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
A few times you guys have had the advantage.
I've come into the town and I'mlike, hey, we're here at camp,
all right.
Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
I'm like, well, there's padres you're at a camp,
yeah you're yeah exactly, I'mstill pedaling here, so yeah,
that's one of the things thatwe'll do is we'll talk to the
ride organizer or, on rag bride,we'll talk to the campground
coordinator or campground chairs.
What they'll say and we'll sayyou know, these are the things
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we need.
And, like you were sayingbefore, there's all kinds of
different charters.
So, on RAGBRAI, maybe there's acharter that they just pull up
in a box truck, they offloadeverything and then people take
their stuff and find a tree toput their tent under, whereas
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we're setting up, like you said,we're setting up our military
style barracks of tents all in arow and we need a flat.
You know what I'm saying?
We want a flat piece of land.
We don't care if there's trees,because we're bringing our own
shade.
So rather than to huddle haveto huddle under your own tree by
your own self, you can go hangout where everybody's hanging
out, and it's more of acommunity environment for us
because all the shade istogether, all the chairs are
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together, all the snacks arethere.
So people by default end up.
You know, getting to know morepeople having conversations,
things like that that if you'reusing a different type of
charter and so you knoweverybody has their own thing,
but if you're using that kind ofcharter, it's just a little
more, I guess, segregated,separated amongst people who are
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there.
But, point being, that's why alot of times we have this nice
flat area, because we're like,well, the best thing for us is,
you got to practice soccer,field 'll take it.
Um, you know, whereas someother charters, or even brag in
general, might say, hey, I'mgoing to put everybody who's
setting up their own tents righthere in this park where there's
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lots of trees, lots of naturalshade.
So that's kind of like I'd saythat's by default why we get
those sometimes really goodspots Nice, mainly because we
bring our own shade, otherwiseit would be rough in the
afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Yeah, and I would say that if you go on, if you've
never been on one of these ridesbefore, or even if you have and
you're not going on a teamwhich Cycling Men is leisure is
there, you should certainly beon that team.
But if you're not on a team,really the charter is the way to
go because, especially like ifyou're in Ragbra I mean there's
(01:04:18):
15, 18, however many thousandsof people there it's hard to
really kind of meet people andthen see those same people.
But with your, with a charter,you know every day you're seeing
the same people.
If you're with a charter, youknow every day you're seeing the
same people you can, you know,make some friends and actually
build that community way better.
So if you're not on a team andyou're, or just there's, you
(01:04:42):
know just a couple of you,really the charter is the way to
go, because if you know, if youreally want to kind of meet
some people, get a communitythat's Adam and I have been
there several times or you know,you meet under the, under the
tarp and you get to knowsomebody and you know you're
still friends today, exactly.
So it's really the way to go.
Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
That's why, when looking at your Web page and
your Facebook page, I kept goinghey Didia, hey Savannah, yeah,
we knew lots of people.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
We knew a lot of the people on their web page.
Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Absolutely yeah, that's a great point when you
brought up community.
It's one of the reasons why welimit our size on RAGBRAI and
all of our events to not be toolarge, because what we didn't
realize was how much peoplereally enjoy that sense of
community and be able to hangout and how many people meet
each other.
It's fun, especially RAGBRAI.
It's our oldest running eventand every year you see some of
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the same customers come backthat they may only see the other
person.
It's like summer camp.
You know they come back andgive somebody a hug.
It's great to see you.
They might ask us hey, is thisperson coming back this year?
Is this person?
So you know that sense ofcommunity is really nice and
it's been great for individualriders that if you're riding by
yourself, it's the easy way tomeet people.
There's just so manyconversations that we get
(01:05:49):
involved with and othercustomers just meeting other
people.
It's great to see thosefriendships form and then people
riding together and then, yearafter year and different events,
people coming back together.
Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Well, this is an interview that we've been really
dying to have with you guys.
We really, you know we valuewhat you do.
Obviously, we've cycled withmany people who have used your
services before and haveadvocated for your services, and
meeting you was wonderful andthen hanging out in Traverse
City.
I just want to thank you forgiving us some of your time and
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telling people about yourservices and hopefully we can
help spread the word for yourevents that you're doing.
Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
I did have one more thing, Adam, before you wrap
this up.
Is there any timelines that weneed to know about if we're
maybe doing Bragg or doingRAGBRAI?
I mean, if I'm out there andI'm doing one of these rides, I
want to hook up with you guys.
Do you guys have some timelinesthat I need to be hitting to be
able to participate?
Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
So RAGBRAIs are one event that sells out normally
the quickest, so that's alwaysone to jump on and get
registered for first, and thenmost of our other events.
The earlier you register, thebetter price you're normally
going to get.
If you wait until the end inthe last 30 days, that's when
our pricing does go up, becausewe've already got most of our
crew hired planning.
So we try to incentivize peopleto sign up early so we can know
what our numbers are going tobe and be prepared from that
side.
So the sooner the better, andwe're always available if people
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have questions.
Sometimes we'll have chatavailable on our website.
Otherwise, we respond to emailspretty quick and we're
available for phone calls too,if people have questions about
our events or services.
It might be.
We're happy to answer questionswell cool.
Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
At the time of recording, there's eight spots
left for the katie trailvacation tour I know, uh, but I
really think before I do that Igot to get hooked up on the the
peddler's jamboree first, so Iwas thinking the peddler's
jamboree would be kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
I, I would.
I might uh make that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Maybe we need to add a fourth ride.
Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
I know and do that one.
I mean that could bring backsome old memories man, that's
right.
Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
That's right in your old area, that's in my current
area.
It wouldn't be very difficult.
We've never actuallyparticipated with Padres, so
that would give us anopportunity to try out their
services as well.
So you never know, yeah as well.
Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
So you never know, yeah, well, I would like to give
you gentlemen the floor andanything that we didn't cover.
Um, you know, we we do valueyour time this evening and we
thank you both.
And um, well, one is in florida, one is about to hit gay with
an ice storm.
But I mean, you know, I I havedefinitely teased michael many a
times.
I'm like, yeah, I'm leisuringAnything we didn't cover that
(01:08:33):
we'd like to add so anyone notthere listening could hear.
Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
Jimmy, anything on your side.
Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
I can't think of anything offhand right now I
can't think of anything thatwasn't really covered.
Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
No, I mean that's fine.
I mean, you know, we justreally appreciate, you know, the
and that's kind of ironically,franklin did the same thing when
he was on with us.
He said it was.
His mom said it was like summercamp and and it's true.
I mean, when we got off the buslast year, brag, I mean all
kinds of people come up and giveme a hug, like hey, it's the
metal leisure.
I felt like a little celebrityfor like four minutes and then
(01:09:26):
they're like, all right, see youlater.
So but but no, I appreciate it.
Um, you know, definitely, likemichael said, we've definitely
seen you in many, many places.
I'm I look forward to.
You know, first thing I'm goingto do after I get checked into
brag, I'm going to come visitboth you gentlemen and say hi,
and then, uh, at bourbon burn atthe end of the season, I'll
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make sure I maybe look the same,maybe a little darker from
being out in the sun, but I lookforward to seeing you again.
So, michael, I'm going to giveit to you.
I appreciate everything.
Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
Michael, there is one thing yeah, go ahead.
One thing you would ask whatcould somebody do if they want
to make sure they don't miss outon anything?
I think the best thing to do isgo to our website and sign up
for our email list.
Once you're on that, thenyou're not going to miss
anything unless you unsubscribeto us.
But we'll send out a couple ofdifferent pieces of information
(01:10:21):
throughout the season, justmaking sure everybody knows what
events are coming up, kind ofblurbs about each one and things
like that.
Or if there's, you know, if wehave any jerseys for sale,
things like that, we'll let youknow.
We'll put those things outthere too.
So best way is to just be onour email list.
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Well, that's great.
Well, we certainly again, likeAdam said, thank you guys for
your time.
If anybody any of our listenersor watchers out there are
looking for this type of servicefor one of these rides that
they've mentioned, I wouldcertainly suggest you guys go
out to their website and we'llput that in all of our
information, get registered and,you know, let somebody else put
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up your tent.
Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
So that's all I got to say there's your new tagline.
Get registered and let someoneelse put up your tent.
Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
There we go, it's not copyrighted, so go ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Thank you, gentlemen, thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Well, that was enjoyable rewatching that.
I really highly enjoyed that.
What did you think?
Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
No, I think it's really really interesting.
It's really interesting to seetheir business model and how it
works and all of that type ofstuff.
We've always seen it from theoutside, so it was kind of cool
to get a little bit morein-depth look at it.
Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
I'm interested in that Peddler's Jamboree Talking
about going down memory lane.
I mean that was kind of fun.
I had no idea.
Beautiful countryside, and it'sjust right over there yeah
right over there and there andthere and there and there, but
we definitely I mean we gotthree events this year which is
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better than we did last year.
So, you never know.
We could look at it.
We'll see what work schedulesare.
What's going on?
That might be something wemight be able to add on.
We'll definitely talk.
Maybe they, maybe they don'thave room for us well, there is
that, but they don't.
Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
You can always come down and we'll just go hit
distilleries in missouri.
There's a lot of them andthere's several good ones.
Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
So I am listening very much, so well, I tell you
what, uh, we know, this is whenit's gone it's long yeah.
So why don't we just get intothe bookend of it and give us
the listener spotlight?
Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Absolutely.
This episode's hints forlistener spotlight are as
follows it was founded in the1850s.
The area was initially exploredby a French-Canadian trapper.
The area where this town islocated had no permanent native
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settlers when the Europeansarrived.
The first settlement wascreated by a religious group.
Irrigation was the earlysettlers' first big job.
And finally, remember, busdrivers are required to stop and
(01:13:25):
open the door for trains, tocheck for trains, of course yeah
, that was yes becauseunfortunately, of a horrible
accident.
Yes, Well, this town hassomething to do with that.
Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Ooh, I'm going to text you away from the show.
Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Think you know, it, I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
You know me, I like to throw some curveballs in
there, so Well, let me tell youthis much I have a training
video that all my employees haveto watch because of the federal
law, and in the video it talksabout where they are.
But I don't want to say itright now.
Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
But remember it has something to do with it.
Keep that in mind, I'm notsaying that it is what created
it, what started it.
Whatever it had something to dowith having to open that door.
Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
And just while we're talking about that, you know
where the confusion comes intoplay.
To play, the most populartransportation vehicle right now
, unless you're a line haul busor a city bus, but if you're
more of an on-demand or adial-a-ride bus is a transit van
, and the reason why is theyconvert them into buses.
(01:14:42):
They put bus doors on the sideof them.
They can go up in the drivewayseasier to turn around.
The confusion that comes intoplay is because it's not on a
bus chassis.
It doesn't fall under thefederal law, because if it was a
bus and it stopped at railroadtracks, you'd be like oh yeah,
I'm behind a bus.
But if you're behind a transitvan and the driver stops, boom.
So it's kind of confusing.
Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Does that mean, the yellow standee line doesn't
count?
Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
There is not a federal yellow standee line,
doesn't count.
There is not a federal yellowstandee line in a transit bus,
so I, you and I always go backand forth about that so I had to
throw that in there anyway, I'mgonna tell you, uh, last story
we're actually auctioning off abus, um for a police training
and they're going to destroy thebus.
I actually wrote an email todaythat says I need to rip out the
(01:15:30):
yellow standee line because Iwant to send it to you.
Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Hey, you know what?
I would find someplace in myoffice here to put a yellow
standee line.
That's right.
Just for you, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Well, listen, I know this one went long.
I hope that people find valuein the Cycling Padres Inn.
They go to a lot of beautifulevents, five or six of the
events that you and I havepersonally done.
If we talk about it on thisshow, we stand behind it.
Definitely a great group ofgentlemen, but I think more than
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that.
I think they have a great teamand I can definitely stand
behind what they stand for.
So thank you, jimmy and Dave.
It means the world to us Can'twait to see you.
I think we're going to see themfirst at Bragg.
Yes, yes, ok, so withoutfurther ado, I know what it's
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not going to be nice to do byyou, and I know it's not going
to be nice to do by me, butsomewhere it is a great day for
a bike ride.
Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
See ya.
Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
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riding is not just about gettingto the destination, but the
experience along the way.
Now here are the originalCycling Men of Leisure Adam and
Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Welcome to Road Adventures of Cycling Men of
Leisure.
As usual, I am Adam and I amhappy once again virtually, not
because you're virtual, but I'mhappy to be joined once again
with my good friend, mr MichaelSharp.
How are you doing, sir, goodAdam?
How are you?
You know, you and I landed backfrom the great state of Florida
(00:54):
and I usually get told to bringwarm weather back with me, and
I completely failed at that.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, it is February.
Yes, just February, yeah, justsaying yeah Well, yeah well it's
going to be negative 10 heretonight, so don't feel so bad.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Is it really?
Yes, sir, wow, negative 10.
Let's see here I got a positive10.
Currently, I don't know whatthe low is, but oh, I could tell
you, hold on, oh, it's going tobe three.
Wow, consider yourself lucky.
You know what?
We were just in Florida and I'msure that I felt lucky, but you
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were able to get back in theswing of things back home and
everything.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh yeah, no problems.
No problems at all.
Well you know, other than it'slike, oh gosh, I got to go, you
know, back to work and all that,but no, no problems.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, you know, I'm so glad we were able to record
together.
I'm getting lots of feedbackfrom my family and lots of text
messages going back and forth.
I mean, they do listen to theshow once in a while and I
understand, you know, family isone of those things.
In a podcast they're like ohyeah, we'll help you, we'll help
you get started and listen to acouple of shows, and some
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family members you know areconsistent listeners.
Some are not, but this one.
My family has definitely beensending messages back and forth.
They're highly enjoying thisshow based upon our experiences
together with our, with our, ouradventures on the road.
And so I don't, I don't know,are you getting the same
traction on your side or?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
you know, I've heard several comments about that and
you know, do bucket hats affectyour intelligence?
Well, listen.
If you haven't listened to ourpast episode, listen to it and
we will help clue you in.
I own bucket hats, but there isa time and a place.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Well, my cousin Mark, our leisure community, my
cousin Mark wrote me and sent mea picture and he's at a
baseball game with a bucket hat,and so he wanted to let you
know that it does not affectyour intelligence, but he did
agree with you.
There's a time and a place towear a bucket hat.
So there you go, speaking ofour leisure community.
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I'd like to highlight a fewthings.
So I hope I'm pronouncing thiscorrectly.
But Rob Menser, m E I N Z EMenzer, wrote us and after our
announcement of doing RAIN, hesays Glad to hear you guys are
taking a run at RAIN this year.
(03:35):
Would have been fun to join youin my home state but
unfortunately RAIN and RAGBRAIoverlap and I'm RAGBRAI bound
this year.
And thank you, rob, for takingthe time to write us.
Yeah, absolutely.
He gave us a screenshot of whatposition he finished in
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position 88.
So I don't know how manywriters are there.
He said it was 23 years ago andhe just said he really hopes
that your training, he's givingyou a little support virtually
because he said it's, if it's nojoke, as a ride, especially if
it's hot.
So he's sending some trainingsupport to you, sir.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And I appreciate that .
I, you know, can use all thetraining support I can get.
The good news is, I don't.
You know, you're right, 165miles is no joke.
Uh, fortunately, you and I havedone that distance before.
So, um, you know we have thatgoing for us.
It's not going to be complete.
Uh, you know, shell shock, butyou're right, I gotta start
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riding now, right early, right,right early right often I have
an Armando update Okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
So you and I recently got together with Armando in
Florida and he is a veryfamiliar figure to our show with
an unfortunate accident, andthen, of course, people wanting
to know how he's doing.
I can officially announce,ladies and gentlemen, armando is
(05:09):
coming back to big brag, sothere we go yes, that'll be nice
.
So, uh, just got theconfirmation today.
He will be part of cycling menof leisure, and I wanted
everyone to know that.
Yes, even though he had alittle bit of a tumble last year
some vision issues uh, he'sbeen riding like crazy, been
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traveling like crazy too, but,um, he is officially signed up
and you will get to see mrarmando at big brag 2025.
So awesome, looking forward toit.
That'll be fun.
Uh, mr Scott Garwick wasrecently at the Winter Lux Bragg
ride.
Got a lot of pictures.
So did you, by the way.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And his picture was on the Bragg website too.
That's right, wearing ourcycling.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Men of leisure t-shirts.
That's right.
He wanted to let us know thathe stopped for a hot dog and his
wife put ketchup on the hot dogas she should and he gave the
emoji that he's throwing up.
But this is very interesting.
You and I had a little bit of acontroversy.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Not controversy is very interesting you and I had a
little bit of a controversy,not controversy.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
We just had a conversation and then we thought
it'd be funny to add to theshow about whether you call in
sick or call out sick.
Um, so far it's not lookinggood for your side because
that's because nobodyunderstands it well, I think
they understand.
Are you calling?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
in sick.
I myself am calling my boss,I'm calling out sick because I'm
not going in.
So it's okay, it's a regionalthing.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Armando said I did not stay home from work often in
my career but when I did Icalled in sick.
I wrote that I'm mostinteresting man in the world
voice Armando, yes, sick, Iwrote I wrote that, uh, I'm most
interesting man in the worldvoice, voice, armando yes, I'm,
you know I okay so I lost thatone too melanie says that.
(07:15):
She said I'm sorry, michael,this one I have to go with adam,
I call in sick.
Um scott says he calls in sick.
Actually I hate to say this.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I guess I'm looking at the sick part.
I'm not in sick, I'm out sick.
That's what I look at.
Calling boss to tell you I'mout sick today.
I'm not in sick today, I'm outsick today.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, ever since COVID, there's no such thing as
calling in anymore.
Get on your computer and workfrom home.
That's right, get back to it.
We did have a couple guessesfor listener spotlight.
I'm going to save that for asecond.
But you and I gave some verbaland, I guess, visual, if you
(08:02):
watched on YouTube support forCricket, scott's wife and she
said just finished listeningwith Scott, we really enjoyed
the show.
They extremely loved theshout-out.
Well, here you go, cricket.
Here's another.
Another shout-out.
She says she is definitelywriting Cool, just decided in
how many days and they have alistener spotlight guest.
(08:22):
But I'll save that for a second.
We talked about our friend jeffwith the weather and helping us
and and, uh, I talked to himand he said his daughter loved
when we talked about him.
You know he had.
He had his daughter in the car.
Yesterday was her birthday and,um, he took the day off to
spend with her and so he playedthe show and she thought it was
(08:43):
so cool that her dad was beingmentioned on the show.
So that was nice so she made anappearance today, and so I sang
my best rendition of happybirthday that a child would
enjoy.
Every adult would jump off abridge when I sang, but she at
least thought it was fun.
So, um, I believe wait a minutewe do have some people who have
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signed up for our team to be onbrag, and so we we got four
more members and so awesome.
So we will definitely beheading there.
If you didn't catch the lastshow, let's see here.
This will be too late Comes outon March 2nd.
So we have our team.
(09:34):
So that's it that we're stillgathering members.
But as of this point but what Iwill say is what you've said
before and I'd like to mirrorwhat you said Please check with
me, because if you feel likeyou're supposed to be on the
team and you're hearing this andyou haven't had a chance to
(09:55):
check with me Stephanie's beenvery gracious Please just make
sure write me.
I can sum up that you weresupposed to be on the team or
verify for you, and I have hadsome people email me.
Uh, after our last show thatcame out and just verified.
So, um, luckily, I've been ableto say yes to every one of
those people so far.
So, um, things are working andand we're going to have a very
(10:19):
large team and we're prettyexcited men and ladies team.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
So here's what you need to do If you want to make
sure you're on the team, call into Adam for that verification.
That's right.
The other thing, though, youknow, yeah, even if you don't
want to join our team, join ateam.
That's what I'm going to say.
Join a team, because I've donethese rides by myself and I've
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done them with a team.
That's what I'm gonna say.
Join a team because I've donethese rides by myself and I've
done them with a team, and theteam just adds a whole different
dimension to the, to the ride.
So well, yeah, I agree, you know, I I think a lot of people are
like, oh, you, just, you justwant us on your team, on your
team.
You know what?
Yeah, I'd love to haveeverybody join us on our team,
but, uh, I think everybodyshould, um, do it in a team
setting because, number one,you've got extra support there
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because there's always somebodythere on your team that will
support if you're having a roughday or stuff like that.
I think it just makes it alittle bit more fun than just
doing it by yourself.
I just wanted to.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Can I give a perfect example of what you're talking
about?
Sure, what was the first thingI said when I busted my rim last
year at brag?
What?
Who did?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I well, I can't say what you.
You said the first thing whenyou busted your rim, but that's
true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But the first thing I said when we got in the hotel
room was I needed to contact ourteam member scott, that I knew
that he had family in the area,that I knew that he had family
in the area, that I knew that hehad bike parts.
He had knowledge and we did.
We ran into him and and he said, unfortunately at that point,
that what are your couple ofrecommendations?
And luckily I was able to finda rim.
But by having a team member youhave more resources, you know,
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and so you can, you can bouncearound.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yes, here's an example.
Another example Okay, I went upto the great state of Michigan
a few years ago with yourselfand Joe and some other people to
ride the one-day ride acrossMichigan.
Odorim and forgot my shoes,left them in my car and let me
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tell you, everybody in ourlittle group, our little team,
was hopping on throwing outideas, calling people they know,
working on trying to remedy theproblem.
So it is nice to have thatextra layer of support there.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I completely agree, and what's funny is here we had
all those people in the hotelroom.
It was a cabin, but in thatcabin and we were all exhausting
our resources because we were,we were all away from home.
If we all been home, I thinkbetween joe and I we could have
whipped up about 10 pairs ofcycling shoes for you, and we
were just out in the middle ofnowhere.
(13:01):
So, um, but you made it, man,you made it, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, but it was nice , uh, even from a mental point
of view, going, oh cred, Iscrewed up, this is all on me.
But you know what?
You guys just jumped in andlike, started, you know,
throwing out, well, we could dothis, maybe we could do that,
maybe you could do this.
I'm going to call this personand see, and so so it is.
It is nice to have that, thatlayer of uh, of support there.
(13:26):
So join a team, give it a try,that's right.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
That's right.
Um, so we are excited.
Um, as far as we're concerned,we last year we were, you know,
we were able to have close to 10, but Franklin was wonderful to
us.
This year we have over 10ladies.
We actually have the CyclingWomen of Leisure team and we're
excited that we're going to havemore than 10 ladies.
(13:51):
So that's exciting.
Well, I think that's it.
I've gone through our leisurecommunity.
By the way, for those of youwho take a few minutes out of
your life to write us, tell uswhat you think, Michael and I
both just want to say thank you.
We love that you do that.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Even though you seldom agree with me.
Thank you anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
We appreciate you taking the time I mean I
appreciate our communitycommitting and at least
confirming that I'm normal.
So I really appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Well, I didn't hear any of them confirm that, but
you take it however you'd like,sir.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I'm going to take a little time.
Hey, no singing.
Okay, yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry.
I think, without further ado,we have an interview coming up
which I'm excited that we share.
That should be good.
But before we do that, why donwe, uh, do our normal thing?
Listener, spotlight.
I got my toys back, man fan.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
fantastic.
All right, listener, spotlight.
Uh, here are the clues.
Early settlers were primarilyEnglish.
This town let me try to putthem in order In the early 1900s
there was over 15 mills gristand saw mills within four miles
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of this community.
Originally, the town had adifferent name, but it was
changed prior to 1810.
Originally, the town had adifferent name, but it was
changed prior to 1810.
It was established in the 1790sbut it was not incorporated
until the 1890s.
Okay, and this town is knownfor extremes.
(15:41):
Okay is known for extremes.
Okay, and I think I also threwin there that other industries
for this town included poultryagriculture and canneries.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So I've got two guesses.
One doesn't actually give aphysical city, but I want to
give credit, uh, cricket, creditwhere credit is due for cricket
, if I could say that.
Wow.
Um, she says, listening tospotlight guests with the
gristmills, she is thinkingbelow the mason dixon line,
(16:20):
doesn't actually uh, name a city, but just wants to throw that
out there.
And and then we did get a newYouTube follower.
So, yes, if you're not familiar, we do put the show on YouTube
and I'm trying to find it.
Sorry for the delay here, gotit.
And to SenseScape, angie Raffeyshe is saying that is it Rock
(16:53):
Run Maryland?
Okay, so appreciate the twoguesses.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So the city that's actually being guessed is Rock
Run, maryland, and then Cricketis saying below the Mason,
somewhere below the Mason-Dixonline, and I did actually have
another clue I threw in therethat it might be a good place if
you are a remote worker, so allright.
What's that, tahiti?
(17:16):
I don't think you're gettingmuch work done there.
No, are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, transportation buses are running.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I'm doing my job one big circle right around that
island um yeah, all right.
Well, uh, certainly.
Thank both of our guesses.
I am sorry to say that neitherof them are correct.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
But our listener spotlight for this episode is
Millsboro, Delaware.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Okay, millsboro Delaware, thank you for your
listenership, but we'll letMichael tell us a little bit
more.
But, as I usually do, thank youall listeners.
But thank you, millsboroDelaware.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yes, early settlers were driven to the area they
were primarily English to jointhe timber industry, and the
timber drive that was going onObviously had lots of grist and
saw mills.
Originally this town was calledrock hole mills, but it was
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changed to Millsboro.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think that's a good change.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, you know rock hole mills.
Yeah, no, uh, this town isknown for extremes.
This town has recorded thecoldest temperature in the state
of Delaware, which was back in1893.
It's negative 17 degrees.
It also recorded the hottesttemperature in the state, back
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in 19, I think, 38 at 110degrees.
Wow.
And what is interesting is thisonly one of three cities in the
US to record both the recordhigh and the record low
temperatures, and those othertwo places were Chester,
massachusetts, and Warsaw,missouri.
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And as far as being a goodplace for remote workers, 2021
PC Magazine named it one of thetop 50 states in the US and
Canada for remote working.
Any reason why?
Because it's a nice place toremote work from.
(19:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You put me on this spot there.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm just wondering,like I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I'm just wondering,like I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I've got really good, you know fiber, internet and
lots of coffee shops to go hangout in, I guess we go.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes, I thought Lake Nona Orlando area was a
wonderful place to remote workmyself.
But OK, I appreciate youmentioning that.
I was just wondering if it waslike because of outdoor coffee
shop.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I think we've already answered that question.
It's a great place to remotework, because what else are you
going to do there when you havethe high and the low extremes
like that?
Stay inside and work.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I was going to say you're close to the negative 17
tonight.
Oh it's going to be real close.
Hey, seriously, when you werereading that I was thinking
about that.
Didn't you have a football game?
I mean, I know we didn't talkabout this ahead of time, but
wasn't like the football gamethat you had at the Arrowhead
Stadium or whatever GHB orwhatever the heck it is?
Wasn't it like negative 10 lastyear at one of those games?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It was, and if I remember right, that was the
third coldest football gameprofessional football game on
record.
I think you're right, it wasn'tthe coldest, but it did make
top three.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And I know that you and I were like usually during
the games if no one knows, wetext each other and sometimes
one guy who was standing upwithout his shirt on, both of
you and I were like, ooh, that'sgoing to not be good tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
He's going to the hospital with hypothermia or
frostbite or both.
But you know, at thattemperature I'm sorry, I can't
really enjoy the game at thattemperature.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I enjoyed it very much.
I hit pause.
I wanted to go to the bathroomIn my living room in front of my
fireplace.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
It was awesome.
Let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Well, listen, I really appreciate you always
having the listener spotlight.
Ladies and gentlemen, onceagain, the the listener
spotlight.
Ladies and gentlemen, onceagain that was listener
spotlight.
I love having my toys back.
So, um, we have something we'reabout to play here.
Um, this is pre-recorded, fulltransparency.
You would know that if youwatched on youtube, because I
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will have a different shirt onand so will you, and there'll be
different views and everything.
But, uh, hopefully, uh, itplays well.
We, um, throughout the years ofdoing cycling, have continuously
seen padres cycling charteralong the way.
Uh, we met these gentlemen um,jimmy and dave.
(22:01):
Um, and I want to let theinterview play out, but we met
these gentlemen last year atshoreline.
We were at a outdoor brewerywith a fire pit and gentlemen
came up and started talking toyou and said what is this
cycling men of leisure about?
Um, later on in the week, wesat down with the gentleman at
traverse city whiskey um said,hey, we should do an interview,
(22:22):
you know, when we get later onin the season, and that's
exactly what we did.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And so, yeah, we've got the inside.
Look at what a you know cyclingin is all about, so it'll be
fun.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
So, without further ado, let me please play this
interview and we'll be back togive some comments.
Hey, michael, we have someextremely special guests today.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
We do indeed, this is exciting.
We've been to a lot of ridesthat these guys have been on and
so it's going to be fun to talkto them and we just keep seeing
them.
And we actually ran into themlast year at an event and had a
chance to sit down and talk tothem and I kind of felt like I
knew these guys becauseeverywhere we went we kept
running into them.
So this will be good.
(23:10):
Who?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
do we got?
We have Jimmy and Dave fromPadre Cycling Inn.
Jimmy and Dave, let me welcomeyou.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Thank you.
Thank you very much, happy tobe here.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Well, we appreciate you taking your time this
evening.
So we did meet you last year atShoreline in person and then we
happened to end up in TraverseCity at Traverse City Whiskey,
which was a good.
Oh sorry, A little bit of asidetrack there, but can you
tell us, Padres?
We've seen you multiple places.
(23:42):
How did you get the name?
Where did it come from?
Tell us a little bit aboutyourself, Jimmy, you want to
handle that Sure.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
So the business was in existence in 2007 by the
original owner, who was thePadre.
He got his name.
We actually got an email theother day from the person who
named him and apparently thisperson said hey, you're Padre
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because he was also a minister.
On the side, he was a retiredpolice officer, but he was also
a minister and he lived in atown called Mexico, Missouri.
So you take a Mexican ministerand you have a Padre.
I love it.
Padre.
He got his start from Bubba.
Bubba Barron Bubba's PamperedPeddlers was also a retired
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police officer and they werefriends and Bubba had a business
going and he said there wassome room in the industry for
another person.
So Padre took it on and createdhis own side business and, kind
of Bubba took him under hiswing and it was all kind of from
there.
Then in uh, 2014, um, I wastalked into by a friend of mine
(24:59):
to do rag braai and he was usingPadre Cycle Inn.
So I used Padre Cycle Inn, so Iwas a customer and then the
next year I talked Dave intodoing it with me and, kind of
funny story, because I was, youknow, I was happy to do either
way camp myself.
I've done a lot ofself-supported stuff too, so I
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was happy to just camp myself.
Said Dave, what do you want todo?
You want to get chartered or doyou want to self-support?
He's like well, if we're ridingall the way across Iowa,
someone else is putting up ourtent.
So we became customers both ofus, and that was the year that
the business became for sale.
So we knew that going intoRAGBRAI that year we kind of
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looked at, kind of watched thebusiness and said you know these
are the things you need to doto have this business and you
know it's an existing businesswe could purchase.
And by the end of the week wehad decided that we were going
to.
I was going to say we weregoing to buy it, but we were
going to go home and getpermission from our wives to buy
the business.
(26:04):
And of course, they said, sure.
So what?
30 days later, dave, we ownedthe business.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
so uh what, 30 days later, dave we own the business
we own this uh charter chartercompany well, I'll tell you what
those friends who talk to youinto rag braai.
I'll tell you.
You gotta watch friends likethat yep no, we're great people.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
What can we say?
So you guys have been you.
So you guys have been cyclingfor a long time and this
opportunity came up and you'rejust like I think this would be
a great idea and you took overthe business and now you're
going to.
How many different rides thisnext year?
I think it's seven rides thisyear.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Jimmy, Maybe it's seven.
Let me see.
Here I'm going to help youcheat One, two, three, four,
five.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Is this your Jimmy?
Maybe it's seven.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Let me see, here I'm going to help you cheat One, two
, three, four, five, six, seven,eight.
I got Katie Trail for you.
Yep, peddler's Jamboree Brag,ragbri, shoreline, dolmac and
Bourbon Burn.
That's correct.
Let's see here, we're going tosee you at Bragg, bourbon Burn,
bourbon Burn.
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We've seen you at Shoreline.
We've seen you at Dalmac.
We've seen you at Ragwry.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
We'll see you at the beginning of the season and the
end.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
There we go, that's right.
So I got to add one thing.
You said Mexico, missouri, andI just find it really
interesting.
I actually went to school inMexico, missouri, missouri
Military Academy is there.
I was a little bit of not onthe right path.
My parents said, guess what?
You're going to military school.
And so that's kind of when Iread your little bit about you
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on your About Us page on yourwebsite, which, by the way, is
PadresCycleIncom as we'retalking about this, if you're
curious, these guys arephenomenal guys.
If you're looking for charterservices, we're going to get
into what actually they do herein a little bit, but if you're
looking for it, please go toPadrescycleincom.
So interesting.
So I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
What I think is interesting is we've seen you
guys for several years here andthere and everywhere and all
these different rides, and hadnever really talked to you.
And we were at shoreline lastyear at mackinac.
They had a little get togetherat a, at a brewery, and I and I
still remember it, I think itwas you, jimmy you came walking
up to me and you were like so Ikeep seeing these cycling men of
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leisure stuff around.
What is that all about?
Yep, and we wound up chattingthere for quite a while and met
several of your uh, of your crew, uh, people.
And then, I believe, two dayslater, at uh at Traverse city,
uh, we all wound up in adistillery, uh, sampling some
some local uh, you know brew,local distilled spirits, so to
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speak, I guess.
So it was really kind ofinteresting because we had never
ever really talked, except thenwe finally wound up together.
So that was kind of cool.
I think.
Where I want to start at withthe whole thing is for the
people who don't know anythingabout, who maybe haven't
participated in a week-longevent or who have participated,
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say, at RAGBRAI, and use justthe RAGBRAIai service.
What do you guys offer?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
so we offer two different sizes of tents.
So essentially, rather thanbringing your own tent, bring in
your own camping gear willprovide a tent for you.
You can pick from a regularsize tent, which is a three-man
tent, or you can pick from asix-man tent, which gives you a
space to stand up, walk aroundin there.
It makes it easier for changing.
You can have one person or twopeople in that tent.
When I say two people, a guestof yours, not somebody you get
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matched up with.
So you can do a large or aregular size tent and then we
put that up every day.
We take it down every day, ourcrew does.
We move it to the next town.
In addition to that, we'll takeluggage and have it at your
tent every day.
So when you wake up in themorning, you pack up your bags,
you set your luggage outsideyour tent and then we'll grab
that luggage, we'll put it inour truck and we'll take it to
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the next town and have itoutside your tent when you get
to your camp.
Then we also have snacks andbeverages, so we'll have sodas
that are available.
We have a charging station forelectronics.
You can charge your GPS unit,your phone, tablet, whatever you
might have.
We'll have chairs.
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It's a wide hot day.
You've got shade where you canjust sit there.
You can grab a soda or water orwhatever it might be.
Relax for a few minutes beforeyou worry about anything else.
Grab a snack, talk to someother customers, talk with one
of us, and then you can head toyour tent, where your luggage is
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, and take care of things.
We also provide shower towels.
We have, so you don't have tobring your own towels disposable
shower towel.
So one less thing to worryabout.
We also have hot coffee in themornings.
Then we'll have ice, uh,powdered gatorade or gatorade
available in the mornings too.
So when you start your morning,we don't provide meals, but
we'll have a couple of snacksthat are available to get you on
your way, as well as coffee tofuel up your morning too.
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So, and then, we also have bikeracks, so when you come into
camp, you can put your bike on abike rack and not have to worry
about laying it in the ground,or where do I put it?
Jimmy?
What did I miss?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I think you covered it.
But one thing I wanted to addis that is the same service that
we will provide for any eventthat you use our services, so it
doesn't change Like we don't.
You know, some charters mightoffer certain things on RAGBRAI
but then they don't offer thosecertain things on another event.
But if you go to any of ourcamping events we provide all of
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those same services.
That's, you know, of course,different for our Katy Trail
event, which I guess we'll talkabout that at some point, but
that's a hotel based event, sothose services will be a little
bit more different and forpeople who don't like the heat
or they don't like sleeping in atent, that might be more up
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their alley cool.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
So I will tell you, last year, at shoreline, your
camp in the traverse city campseemed so valuable to me.
I wasn't part of you.
I wish I was at that timebecause, as I passed, that was a
long day and there yourbeautiful chairs were sitting
and I saw all of your guestsrelaxing and I thought that
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should be me right there.
And Michael, I think you'reright.
If no one realizes what that is, if you do, just as a
comparison, if you do an eventthat doesn't have a charter
service, you come in and you'regoing to the baggage truck and
you got your bike and you gotyour bags.
And now what?
Now you're either walking withyour bike and walking with your
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bags.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well, stop right there, Adam, because you made
that sound really super easy.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
You go to the baggage truck and there's like 300 or
more people's bags in there.
They're now strewn all over thelawn.
You now have to go through andfind your bag and of course
you're going to pick a bagbefore you go that you think
nobody else is going to have.
And then you're going to find50 people that have the exact
same bag, exact same color, andthen, if it's like one of the
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first days when they bring yourbike, I mean your bikes are just
all.
So I mean it's more than just,oh, I'm going to grab my bag and
go.
It's a lengthy process so I candefinitely see where.
If my bag's just waitingoutside of my tent, that would
be beautiful.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You mean it's not the green REI one that I bought
that no one else could buy atthe same time.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
No, Believe it or not , everybody else bought that
same bag on sale.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
So one of my questions would be is sometimes
it rains, believe it or not.
How do you guys handle bags ondays it rains?
I've seen, I think I saw maybetarps or something.
Uh-oh, jimmy, you got mutedbuddy.
Yep, sorry, no, don got mutedbuddy.
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Yep, sorry, no, don't be sorry.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Things happen.
I'm trying to mute myself.
I've got a little bit of acough, but on Shoreline you
probably saw some tarps over theregular baggage trucks.
They'll park their truck andthen they start unloading all
the bags onto the ground andthen it never fails.
One of those days it's going torain and it rains on
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everybody's bags.
So they have a big roll ofclear plastic that they'll try
to put over it to keep it dry.
We try to keep the luggage inour box truck, in our baggage
truck, until every tent is setand everything like that, and
then we can then decide allright, is this clear,
everything's clear.
We can start taking the luggageout.
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So if we do get a shower orwhatever, that luggage isn't
just sitting around getting wet,it's in the baggage truck.
We have had it.
We had an incident last yearwhere we were ready and then all
of a sudden, out out of nowhere, there was a spot storm.
But it's better than havingthat stuff out, sitting out
there all day and hoping thatthat piece of plastic doesn't
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blow away on you.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I think that's huge.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
We'll also keep an eye on weather.
As far as is it hot, so do wewant to keep the doors open on
the tents to ventilate them andso that when you get into your
tent and it's not baking andthen we kind of weigh that
against.
Well, what's the chance of rain?
So if it's going to rain, we'regoing to zip those tents up so
that way, if their luggage hasbeen delivered, we don't put it
inside all the way inside thetent, but we'll put it in the
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vestibule, and if we zip thatclosed it'll stay dry once it's
been delivered.
So there's a lot of watchingthe weather throughout the day,
making sure you know we're readyfor whatever the case may be,
whether it's strong winds orrain showers or anything else
that's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I think something to mention here and just for myself
.
The difference between when wehad a charter versus not having
a charter is you're talkingabout the tents and you're going
to check the ventilation andeverything.
I can remember many mornings ofrag bar.
I getting up, you know it'stent poles are starting at four,
45 in the morning, five o'clockin the morning your tent is
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soaking wet from the dew beingout there in a cornfield and
then the bags get.
I mean the tent gets rolled upand you know, if I don't have a
charter and then if I ride allday in the saddle, then when I
set up my tent it's dewy and wetand I think one of the things
that you guys offer as a charteris obviously it has time to dry
out.
I mean even, or I'm not sure.
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I mean I know the gentleman Imet last year at Shoreline told
me that you don't put the tentsaway wet, so maybe he has to
wait.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
If it's really dewy in the morning, we will put the
tents away.
We'll roll them up wet, butchances are they're going to be
completely dry when anybody, bythe time anyone gets there.
I mean, if we've got a soaker,you know we've got rain all day
long.
It's camping.
You know there's not a lot youcan do about it.
You're out in the nature.
But on a typical day during thesummer, on any of the events we
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support, by the time we get thetents set up early afternoon,
you know riders are coming in.
You know later on the eveningeverything's been dried out so
you, you go ahead, michael, I'msorry.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I was just going to say a couple of things.
Number one I am interested inand I forget what town, but we
were like camp literally rightnext to you on shoreline, and I
saw your guys putting up thetents and all that kind of stuff
.
Or who am I kidding?
I saw the tents being put up.
That would insinuate that I wasin early enough to see you guys
put up the tents.
They had already put up thetents.
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If I am participating and I'mone of your people, how do I
know where my tent is?
Because you guys I don't knowhow many you had 50, 60, I don't
know.
How do I know where to go whenI get there?
Do you have assigned spots thatmy tent is in this spot?
Every?
You know I'm three over fromthe on the fourth row, or how do
you do that?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
So when you, when every customer checks into the
beginning of the week, we assignthem a tent.
So they'll get a wristband thatwill have their tent letter and
number on it and they'll be inthat same tent all week.
So that is one of the nicethings in this day and age is
you don't have to worry aboutgetting switched to a different
tent that somebody else slept inlast night as well.
As if you happen to leavesomething in your tent maybe
hopefully something small thenit's going to be in that tent a
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little bit later too.
But after we get all the tentsset up, usually if you're next
to somebody you're probablygoing to be next to them for
most of the week because of ourorder of setting up the tents
and taking them down.
But every day, after we get allthe tents up, we'll put a map up
and we'll group certain tentstogether.
We group all of our small tentstogether.
We put all of our single tentstogether, large singles and
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large doubles.
So that's one way to know.
Hey, this is the large doublearea.
But then we'll have a mapthat's up that customers can
take a look.
They can go to one of our crewmembers and we're happy to point
them in the direction of wheretheir tent is, and the number of
tents will vary depending onRAGBRAI.
It's usually our largest event,but Bragg's been growing a lot
and been a pretty good event forus these days.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Okay.
I was always interested aboutthat.
But let me tell you, when theyput these tents, I mean it kind
of looks like a militaryinstallation.
I mean they don't justhaphazardly stick them around.
You guys got them in nicestraight lines and it's
well-organized.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Michael, what I'm hearing is you better be nice to
your neighbor, I mean becauseyou're going to be with them all
week long.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
That's where your tent is.
Yeah, don't tick off theneighbor, because you have to
live with them for another fouror five days.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Jimmy, you talked about baggage and how we'll keep
the baggage away, and I thinkone of the things that I and
Michael can attest to this thatI so my first RAGBRAI or
anything like this, any kind ofride that you're providing
services for was mine was 2016.
And course I teased michaelabout those friends who get you
into rag braai.
I mean, now we do this crazystuff all the time, but at the
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time they're like hey, what doyou think about riding across
iowa?
I'm like I think you're nuts.
And now I've done it five times.
So, uh, I guess I'm the onewho's nuts.
But, um, at home you startthinking about gathering gear
and lug, I mean, all your stuffthat you're getting.
How does the customer know howmuch stuff they can bring?
Do you have limitations or howdoes that work?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
We do.
We have limitations whichexceed, like most of the
standard baggage trucks that arejust part of the event.
I think we allow like aboutdouble what Rag Bride does, I
think, for example, which isbasically two bags, 40 pounds or
less each.
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So 80 pounds of baggage perperson, per event.
And you know, if you thinkabout doing Rag Bride, I think
you can bring 50 pounds total.
You still got to get your tentin there, an air mattress if you
want it, your bedding, a chair,maybe things that you might not
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, or things that you won't needif you're using Padres.
So you don't have to pack atent, you don't have to pack a
towel or two, so a variety ofthose types of things.
Um, that saves space.
So we also have on our websitelike a list of suggested items
that's just kind of accrued overthe you know or the time.
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And you know if, if a customersays, oh, I brought this and I,
I, you know you got to have thaton your list and we'll put it
on there.
It's not a be all end all list.
Some people want a fan, somepeople don't want a fan, you
know there's different things,um, but it's a good.
It's a good list to look at,because it gets you thinking, it
gets you preparing and then itgets you saying oh wait, that
reminds me I should bring X, yor Z Um so that's helpful but
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being able to bring 80 pounds ofbag of stuff in your bags for
as many as seven days.
My first RAGBRAI, I think I woretwo kits the whole week.
I just washed and dried andwashed and dried every other day
.
You can do it all kinds of ways.
We have minimalists that'llbring a backpack.
We're like how is that personspending the whole week riding
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and not smelling like garbagewith just a backpack full of
stuff?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
so you've got other people all the way across the
state.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
Dollar general and then you got other people who
max it out all the way and Imean they're probably bring more
things than they need well thethings you don't need to bring
um things like a bike pump.
I mean, you might want to have abike pump for your bike mounted
to your bike, but you knowwe've got the full towers.
Um, you know, if you're someonewho wants those types of things
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, you don't have to worry aboutbringing those types of things.
We've got those in camp.
We got maintenance stand forbikes, bike pumps, the racks,
all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
That is nice because, yeah, I mean, michael, you and
I have both changed our.
I mean, each time we go out, wewe think, okay, well, how about
this, how about that?
because, before um, aligningwhat you're saying, jimmy, I
would be the guy who my firstyear probably brought the
kitchen it was ridiculous in thehouse and uh, and then I
realized what I did was thatfirst, rag bride, when I got
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home, on the right side of mygarage I put everything that I
actually put my hands on throughthe week.
And then on the left side, Iput things that I never even
touched and in the middle wherethings were even though I didn't
touch it, I was still wouldn'tmind having.
And then I took some pictureswith my phone and I still, each
time I out, I'm like, okay, well, I tell you what.
And now, michael and I, you andI kind of join them like how
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about I bring this, you bringthis, even to try to get it
smaller so we can share.
And so, um, which I?
I know you're right.
I've seen the guys who get onthe bus and they've got one rei
backpack and I'm like where'sthe rest of your stuff?
And they're like this is it.
I'm going across the state thisway.
I'm like, okay, good luck toyou.
Michael, you remember we werein RAGBRAI.
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Our charter at the time hadparked next to the RAGBRAI
trailer and they had the scale.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
People were in line to get to the scale.
Like at the airport.
You're over 50 pounds.
Take something out.
Get out of here.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
What about?
A lot of times, michael and I,when we do brag, we choose to
fly in.
Uh, this year we've decided tofly to atlanta and then we're
gonna um, we're gonna go to romeand rent a car.
Go up to rome um, we would havebike boxes.
But if someone flew to one ofyour events, would you be able
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to accommodate travel cases andstuff?
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yeah, we do.
We've got a box truck thattransports all the luggage, so
we do have situations wheresomebody has a bike bag they
need transported for the week.
So we'll handle that at timesand it's not something we
advertise but it's definitelysomething we can accommodate.
It's one of those we try tounder promise over deliver.
So if a customer needssomething, we'll try to see if
it's something that makes sensethat we can handle and help them
out with.
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That's perfect.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
CPAP.
If somebody has you talkedabout plugging things in.
If someone has CPAP, are youguys accommodate CPAPs, cpap or
are you guys accommodate CPAPs?
Speaker 4 (44:49):
Yeah, we have a couple events Dalmac and
Shoreline, I guess where thenthe bourbon burn a little bit
too, where we know we're goingto have electricity available
because the right organizers aregoing to make sure that there's
electricity.
That's there.
So in those circumstances weask customers just bring an
extension cord, and we canhandle it in that way.
We just last year decided tostart testing out another
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approach for some of the otherevents where we don't have
electricity, and that is, we'vepurchased and rent out CPAP
batteries.
So basically it's a kind of aninverter where you can plug a 12
volt or 110 volt into it or runall night long.
We tested it out on an event.
Worked very well, so we boughta few more of them, and so now
we have those available for renton some of our different events
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, like Rag Bry and Brag andwhat's kind of handy about it
that we didn't realize wasmainly there for CPAP use.
But there's USB-C outlets on it.
You can plug, charge your phoneovernight.
There's a light on it too, soyou can use it as a tent light.
So it's kind of multipurpose,and what happens is the customer
just drops it off with us inthe morning, we take care of it.
We make sure that it gets allcharged up by the end of the day
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.
When they're ready to go to bed, they just come and grab it
from us and take it to theirtent and works overnight for
them.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
That's wonderful, michael.
You and I were just recently inthe Sky Club on Friday and they
had a whole wall of thosethings, because they don't have
plugs for everybody in OrlandoSky Club and they have a whole
wall of those things you canrent out to charge computers and
everything.
I mean we've come a long waywith many, many batteries and
stuff, so that's wonderful Water.
So you said you talked aboutsnacks and stuff.
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So if I'm trying to fill mywater bottle up, I assume that
you stage near or around freshwater or have fresh water
available for the cyclist tostart off in the morning.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
Yeah, we'll have a variety of different water
coolers out.
Some of them will have ice coldwater in them.
We try to always have one thathas lemonade in it, and then, on
a larger event like Bragg Bride, we'll also have one that just
has the flavor of the daygatorade.
that's so that's cool if youbring in your own noon or
something like that, um, you canmake your own with the water,
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but if you just want to quickfill up with pre-made gatorade,
you can do that um which is aperk, really love that lemonade
in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
To me that's a perk because I I mean you do, ragbrai
, you're on your own.
I mean, michael, what about ourfriend Walter, when we were at
the 50th anniversary?
Ragbrai, our good buddy, we waswaiting in line.
He had taken the regularRAGBRAI camping in Des Moines,
right there in the middle ofthat big dirt field, and our
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charter had, you know, water andeverything.
And we were on our way and allof a sudden we looked up and our
good buddy from Georgia, and hesaid, hey guys, and I looked at
the line and it was like 60deep at least waiting for water.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
So it was like Whoa.
One thing I wanted to bring upis, if somebody is listening to
this and they are kind of thefirst timer or they don't
understand charters, there is adifference in charters.
There's different levels.
It's like anything else You'vegot.
You know, your your basic leveland then you build up and I
would say you guys are kind ofthe higher end level because on
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the basic end and and we've useda couple of charters for rag
braai, uh, just because we, youknow, we uh don't always like
where they they stick us ifwe're just with the rag braai
group and we don't want to haulour luggage that far, um, but we
have used charters where youbring your own tent, you bring
your own stuff, they tell you,you follow the signs going into
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town where they're going to beand your stuff is sitting there
and you know maybe it's rain,maybe it hasn't, maybe they
covered it, maybe they didn't.
And then you bring your stuffand you find your little camping
area within their domain thereand you set up your tent and you
haul your gear over and thatkind of stuff and your bike lays
on the ground and that type ofthing.
So when you're looking atcharters, there's different
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levels that you'll want to lookat.
You guys sound like you're doingit right.
I mean, you guys are soundinglike men of leisure should be
coming to you.
Because you guys are setting upthe tent.
I don't have to haul my baggageor anything like that.
I've got a nice rack.
I can set my bike up off theground.
So I just wanted for anybodyout there who wasn't familiar
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with charters is, there is amultitude of different services
offered.
Some offer just we're going tohave a signs place and we'll get
your luggage there and we'llhave a shade tent or something
for your enjoyment.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
So I just wanted to make sure everybody understood
that those levels existrealizing it like if they're
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listening to a podcast in thecomfort of their air-conditioned
car they're not thinking about.
The reality is you get on thatbike for 60, 80 miles a day, out
in the middle of the heat, outin the middle of iowa, or you
know, georgia or whatever, uhelevation in georgia this year,
or whatever um, and you come in,you come into camp and your
tent's already there and yourbag's already there and you're
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ready just to like go take yourshower, go find something to eat
.
You're not messing withanything.
I think that's one of the perksthat obviously you guys decided
to buy the business.
You know that.
But for someone who doesn'trealize, why should I charter
versus not charter?
Now, there could be the like yousaid, it could be the
minimalist.
I'm not doing that.
I've got my sleeping bag andI'm staying out in the open.
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Well, good luck.
You know, whatever I mean, eachperson could do it their own
way.
But let's, michael, only,unless you had some other things
, should we get into some oftheir events that they're doing?
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Yeah, I was wanting to chat about some of their
events they've got coming up andwas hoping you guys might be
able to fill us in, because Iknow most of them.
Like Adam said, we participatedin.
Most of them Don't knowanything about this Peddler
Jamboree, so tell us a littlebit about the events that you've
got coming up.
Speaker 5 (51:11):
Yeah, so Peddler's Jamboree is basically just a two
day event.
It's an out and back goes fromColumbia, missouri, out to
Boonville, missouri.
It's about 35 miles each way.
So it's a very leisurely event.
It's um, you know, a lot oftimes it's just the people who
do it.
That's the only time they're ontheir bike the whole year.
It's not, you know, it's notnecessarily all serious riders.
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A lot of people are dressed upin costumes or they decorate
their bikes.
But I'd say every 10 miles or soyou can stop and hear some
music.
Most stops are going to havefood and drink also.
So most stops are going to havefood and drink also.
And then when you get to thevery end, which is Boonville,
it's Kemper Park is the name ofthe park they, they host
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everything at.
There's a main stage.
I mean it's a full, large stagewith multiple bands and you
know they play music all nightlong.
You know, past midnight, justgoing to town, some of it's the
guy who runs off-track events iswho puts this event on.
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He loves the fact he's fromactually I think he's from Des
Moines, isn't he Dave?
Yeah, I think he is Originallyfrom.
Iowa, but he wants to try tokeep everything all the music
and even, like a lot of thecraft beers and things that are
on the event, local stuff.
So by local meaning likeMissouri Iowa area.
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So it's a lot of local music orsomewhat semi-local music to
the area, semi-local music tothe to the area, um, but anyway
you get to Kemper Park and thenyou can camp overnight, um, and
then the next day you ride allthe way back and then there's
music and stuff on the way backas well.
So it's a it's kind of like.
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It's kind of like a baby ragbride, but it's on the Katy
Trail um and the MKT, which is aconnector trail to the Katy
Trail.
So it's crushed limestone.
It's not a road ride, it's off,there's no traffic.
You know it's kind of a coolevent, but just a two-day deal.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Man, you're taking me down memory lane here.
So a little side note.
When I went to MissouriMilitary Academy in Mexico,
missouri here so little sidenote.
When I went to missourimilitary academy, mexico,
missouri, we would go to kempermilitary school and and kemper
military academy excuse me,kemper military academy and we
had a rivalry like a hundred andsomething.
Now it's unfortunately defunct.
Kemper military academy is gonenow.
But uh, we would play, you know, back and forth, you know for
(53:45):
sports and stuff.
And then when you talk aboutcolumbia, missouri, my, my
parents would visit me inmilitary school.
We would go to the columbiamall back in the day and, uh, so
, man, you're taking me downmemory lane here.
That's, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
So, um, now, adam, I wish I could say I have no clue
what you're talking about, but Ispent a little time as a child
in columbia and I remember themall, so I've been there.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
Yeah, those, dorms are still there at Kemper park,
are they really?
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah, oh, wow.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
So so, basically, this ride is just like an hour
and a half down the road from me.
Speaker 4 (54:24):
Well, what are?
Speaker 2 (54:25):
you waiting for.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
I would need to bring a tent.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
I wouldn't have to do any of that stuff.
Okay, I thought you said youhad to bring a tent.
No, I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
No, you don't these guys will hook me up with a tent
, so perfect.
Speaker 4 (54:36):
You got it.
Guess we'll see you at the endof May.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
You never know.
I need all the help, all thetraining I can get between now
and you know brag, know brag.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
so how is that, uh peloton, how's it been going?
For you it's been moving okaygood.
The katie trail vacation tour.
Now this seems like somethingthat you're currently pushing,
because there are only 10 spotsremaining.
Eight, eight now.
Oh you, better update thiswebsite spots are going fast
(55:07):
spots are going fast.
We should actually maybe putthis in before to help you get
to.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
So now is this a ride you guys are doing, or is this
okay?
So this is a ride that you guysare actually putting on.
Speaker 5 (55:21):
Yeah, this will be our first event that we're fully
supporting and our first eventthat has no tents.
All hotels, every mealsincluded breakfast, lunch,
dinner, every day.
So you know you got your hotelsincluded.
(55:42):
Sag support.
We've got bike rental also.
That's available.
If people don't have a graveltype bike or anything, if they
only have a road bike, they canget a rental.
What else, dave?
Speaker 4 (55:54):
We'll have shuttle services that are available.
So when customers will meet usin the St Louis, St Charles area
, they'll fly into.
St Louis.
We'll provide a hotel on thatfirst night.
We'll check them in and thenwe'll shuttle them to the start
of the Katy Trail or to Clinton,missouri, and then we'll have
to the start of the Katy Trailor to Clinton Missouri, and then
we'll have they'll start ridingthere.
We'll provide commencingbreakfast, lunch, dinner and
(56:19):
then each night we'll have alittle bit of a shuttle service
to see local spots.
If somebody wants to go andcheck out someplace here or
there that's in the town, we'llhave a van that's available in
order to shuttle people around alittle bit to, to and from
dinner, as well as other places,sites of interest.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
That's cool.
That's cool.
Well, I've got to say Clinton,missouri is not very far away
from where I'm at right thismoment.
What are you waiting for?
I'm waiting for the snowstormto get gone before I go over
there.
But, um, if you have not riddenor been to, uh, the Southern
half of the state of Missouri,you're missing out.
(56:55):
It is beautiful.
So I would just say anybody whoreally wants to see beautiful
scenery, this would be a greatride to go on.
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
So hotels.
Speaker 5 (57:06):
Katie trail is you know, as far as a venue, the
Katy Trail is rated.
What was it?
Top five or something?
Yeah, Rail trails are in thecountry, so if not number one,
it might be number one If youGoogle rides that you should do
or trails you should do in theUS.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
It usually comes up in top five, top ten, and it's
mentioned in most articles thatmention rail trails or just
rides that you should do in theU?
S.
It usually comes up in top five, top 10.
And it's mentioned in mostarticles that mentioned rail
trails or just rides that youshould do in the United States.
It's a great trail.
We're lucky to live pretty muchon the trail in St Louis area
and you're not far from ityourself either, Michael.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
No, no, just, and unfortunately I haven't really
enjoyed a lot of it, so I kindof need to remedy that.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
So yeah, you'd stop going to michigan.
Oh wait, that's my fault.
Um, what kind of mileage if I'mat home?
Or if I'm in my life?
I'm training on a bicycle rightnow and listening to this.
What kind of mileage for thekatie trail each day?
Speaker 4 (58:04):
jimmy, you want to hit I think it's uh, what do we
have?
30 to 50 miles?
Speaker 5 (58:07):
Yeah, it's going to vary.
The trail is just under 240miles, so we're splitting that
by six days.
Okay, you're talking about anaverage of 40-mile a day.
That's nice, that's awesome.
Some will be a little bitlonger.
(58:28):
It's nice.
Some will be a little bitlonger, some will be a little
bit shorter.
Just based on where we can getthe best places to get hotels or
B&Bs.
Sometimes you don't really havemuch of a choice because some of
the Katy Trail is just out, injust open undeveloped area, it's
just trees and you know theriver and you know beautiful
(58:49):
scenery.
But then when you get in someof the towns, then you've got
the historic German town ofHermann, you got the first
Missouri capital of St Charles,you got the capital of Jeff City
.
So some of those towns are lotsto do when you get in there and
lots of history to see.
(59:10):
If you're a history buff,definitely an event to do and if
you're into wine if you're intowine, herman is the place to go
for Missouri wine.
Speaker 3 (59:19):
I mean it's, it's incredible and everybody in the
Kansas city area is like takesthe train specifically for the
weekend to Herman, missouri, forno other reason than to hit all
the vineyards and things.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
So yeah, I see it.
I would answer what Michaelanswers to me.
Normally they don't have wineat your local store.
Why do you?
Got to take the train Just?
Speaker 3 (59:39):
kidding, because you're taking the train, you're
relaxed, you're leisuring.
Adam, come on.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
So I'm going to move to brag for a second.
So, um, franklin johnson,executive director of brag, has
multiple ways that you can brag.
You can do indoor camping,outdoor camping.
He works with hotel black dogluggage, um, for the outdoor
camping essentially.
Then then with the charterservice, not only could I do
outdoor camping, but then Icould also have a charter where
(01:00:08):
same same services, where I'dcome into each town, everything
would all be set up for me.
So for Ragbri, pretty much NeilGlazebrook, the director there,
(01:00:35):
events director, I think histitle is so just basically the
same thing You're coming in andyou guys have your own area,
which I was jealous of multipletimes.
Why didn't we do that?
Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
I guess brag and rag braai would be a little bit
different to where.
If you're using our charterservice, you might be on a
different spot.
You know you're not going to bemaybe adjacent to, uh, the main
camping, um, just because ofyou know logistics, size,
whatnot?
Um, whereas shoreline, dalmac,uh, the bour Burn, peddler's
(01:01:13):
Jamboree, we're all basicallyright there.
Um, you know a lot of theMichigan events are hosted by
schools.
Um, I think Shoreline is tryingto get away from that a little
bit, but it's typically been inschools.
So if their camping's at aschool, they're going to put us
just somewhere on that samecampus.
But then again, bragg, you knowhe might have one spot and then
(01:01:38):
it might be a block over wherewe are.
Sometimes we are in the samespot but it's you know it's
typically been varied on thoseevents.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
A few times you guys have had the advantage.
I've come into the town and I'mlike, hey, we're here at camp,
all right.
Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
I'm like, well, there's padres you're at a camp,
yeah you're yeah exactly, I'mstill pedaling here, so yeah,
that's one of the things thatwe'll do is we'll talk to the
ride organizer or, on rag bride,we'll talk to the campground
coordinator or campground chairs.
What they'll say and we'll sayyou know, these are the things
(01:02:13):
we need.
And, like you were sayingbefore, there's all kinds of
different charters.
So, on RAGBRAI, maybe there's acharter that they just pull up
in a box truck, they offloadeverything and then people take
their stuff and find a tree toput their tent under, whereas
(01:02:35):
we're setting up, like you said,we're setting up our military
style barracks of tents all in arow and we need a flat.
You know what I'm saying?
We want a flat piece of land.
We don't care if there's trees,because we're bringing our own
shade.
So rather than to huddle haveto huddle under your own tree by
your own self, you can go hangout where everybody's hanging
out, and it's more of acommunity environment for us
because all the shade istogether, all the chairs are
(01:02:57):
together, all the snacks arethere.
So people by default end up.
You know, getting to know morepeople having conversations,
things like that that if you'reusing a different type of
charter and so you knoweverybody has their own thing,
but if you're using that kind ofcharter, it's just a little
more, I guess, segregated,separated amongst people who are
(01:03:19):
there.
But, point being, that's why alot of times we have this nice
flat area, because we're like,well, the best thing for us is,
you got to practice soccer,field 'll take it.
Um, you know, whereas someother charters, or even brag in
general, might say, hey, I'mgoing to put everybody who's
setting up their own tents righthere in this park where there's
(01:03:39):
lots of trees, lots of naturalshade.
So that's kind of like I'd saythat's by default why we get
those sometimes really goodspots Nice, mainly because we
bring our own shade, otherwiseit would be rough in the
afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Yeah, and I would say that if you go on, if you've
never been on one of these ridesbefore, or even if you have and
you're not going on a teamwhich Cycling Men is leisure is
there, you should certainly beon that team.
But if you're not on a team,really the charter is the way to
go because, especially like ifyou're in Ragbra I mean there's
(01:04:18):
15, 18, however many thousandsof people there it's hard to
really kind of meet people andthen see those same people.
But with your, with a charter,you know every day you're seeing
the same people.
If you're with a charter, youknow every day you're seeing the
same people you can, you know,make some friends and actually
build that community way better.
So if you're not on a team andyou're, or just there's, you
(01:04:42):
know just a couple of you,really the charter is the way to
go, because if you know, if youreally want to kind of meet
some people, get a communitythat's Adam and I have been
there several times or you know,you meet under the, under the
tarp and you get to knowsomebody and you know you're
still friends today, exactly.
So it's really the way to go.
Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
That's why, when looking at your Web page and
your Facebook page, I kept goinghey Didia, hey Savannah, yeah,
we knew lots of people.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
We knew a lot of the people on their web page.
Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Absolutely yeah, that's a great point when you
brought up community.
It's one of the reasons why welimit our size on RAGBRAI and
all of our events to not be toolarge, because what we didn't
realize was how much peoplereally enjoy that sense of
community and be able to hangout and how many people meet
each other.
It's fun, especially RAGBRAI.
It's our oldest running eventand every year you see some of
(01:05:28):
the same customers come backthat they may only see the other
person.
It's like summer camp.
You know they come back andgive somebody a hug.
It's great to see you.
They might ask us hey, is thisperson coming back this year?
Is this person?
So you know that sense ofcommunity is really nice and
it's been great for individualriders that if you're riding by
yourself, it's the easy way tomeet people.
There's just so manyconversations that we get
(01:05:49):
involved with and othercustomers just meeting other
people.
It's great to see thosefriendships form and then people
riding together and then, yearafter year and different events,
people coming back together.
Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Well, this is an interview that we've been really
dying to have with you guys.
We really, you know we valuewhat you do.
Obviously, we've cycled withmany people who have used your
services before and haveadvocated for your services, and
meeting you was wonderful andthen hanging out in Traverse
City.
I just want to thank you forgiving us some of your time and
(01:06:24):
telling people about yourservices and hopefully we can
help spread the word for yourevents that you're doing.
Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
I did have one more thing, Adam, before you wrap
this up.
Is there any timelines that weneed to know about if we're
maybe doing Bragg or doingRAGBRAI?
I mean, if I'm out there andI'm doing one of these rides, I
want to hook up with you guys.
Do you guys have some timelinesthat I need to be hitting to be
able to participate?
Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
So RAGBRAIs are one event that sells out normally
the quickest, so that's alwaysone to jump on and get
registered for first, and thenmost of our other events.
The earlier you register, thebetter price you're normally
going to get.
If you wait until the end inthe last 30 days, that's when
our pricing does go up, becausewe've already got most of our
crew hired planning.
So we try to incentivize peopleto sign up early so we can know
what our numbers are going tobe and be prepared from that
side.
So the sooner the better, andwe're always available if people
(01:07:16):
have questions.
Sometimes we'll have chatavailable on our website.
Otherwise, we respond to emailspretty quick and we're
available for phone calls too,if people have questions about
our events or services.
It might be.
We're happy to answer questionswell cool.
Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
At the time of recording, there's eight spots
left for the katie trailvacation tour I know, uh, but I
really think before I do that Igot to get hooked up on the the
peddler's jamboree first, so Iwas thinking the peddler's
jamboree would be kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
I, I would.
I might uh make that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Maybe we need to add a fourth ride.
Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
I know and do that one.
I mean that could bring backsome old memories man, that's
right.
Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
That's right in your old area, that's in my current
area.
It wouldn't be very difficult.
We've never actuallyparticipated with Padres, so
that would give us anopportunity to try out their
services as well.
So you never know, yeah as well.
Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
So you never know, yeah, well, I would like to give
you gentlemen the floor andanything that we didn't cover.
Um, you know, we we do valueyour time this evening and we
thank you both.
And um, well, one is in florida, one is about to hit gay with
an ice storm.
But I mean, you know, I I havedefinitely teased michael many a
times.
I'm like, yeah, I'm leisuringAnything we didn't cover that
(01:08:33):
we'd like to add so anyone notthere listening could hear.
Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
Jimmy, anything on your side.
Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
I can't think of anything offhand right now I
can't think of anything thatwasn't really covered.
Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
No, I mean that's fine.
I mean, you know, we justreally appreciate, you know, the
and that's kind of ironically,franklin did the same thing when
he was on with us.
He said it was.
His mom said it was like summercamp and and it's true.
I mean, when we got off the buslast year, brag, I mean all
kinds of people come up and giveme a hug, like hey, it's the
metal leisure.
I felt like a little celebrityfor like four minutes and then
(01:09:26):
they're like, all right, see youlater.
So but but no, I appreciate it.
Um, you know, definitely, likemichael said, we've definitely
seen you in many, many places.
I'm I look forward to.
You know, first thing I'm goingto do after I get checked into
brag, I'm going to come visitboth you gentlemen and say hi,
and then, uh, at bourbon burn atthe end of the season, I'll
(01:09:47):
make sure I maybe look the same,maybe a little darker from
being out in the sun, but I lookforward to seeing you again.
So, michael, I'm going to giveit to you.
I appreciate everything.
Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
Michael, there is one thing yeah, go ahead.
One thing you would ask whatcould somebody do if they want
to make sure they don't miss outon anything?
I think the best thing to do isgo to our website and sign up
for our email list.
Once you're on that, thenyou're not going to miss
anything unless you unsubscribeto us.
But we'll send out a couple ofdifferent pieces of information
(01:10:21):
throughout the season, justmaking sure everybody knows what
events are coming up, kind ofblurbs about each one and things
like that.
Or if there's, you know, if wehave any jerseys for sale,
things like that, we'll let youknow.
We'll put those things outthere too.
So best way is to just be onour email list.
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Well, that's great.
Well, we certainly again, likeAdam said, thank you guys for
your time.
If anybody any of our listenersor watchers out there are
looking for this type of servicefor one of these rides that
they've mentioned, I wouldcertainly suggest you guys go
out to their website and we'llput that in all of our
information, get registered and,you know, let somebody else put
(01:11:04):
up your tent.
Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
So that's all I got to say there's your new tagline.
Get registered and let someoneelse put up your tent.
Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
There we go, it's not copyrighted, so go ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Thank you, gentlemen, thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Well, that was enjoyable rewatching that.
I really highly enjoyed that.
What did you think?
Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
No, I think it's really really interesting.
It's really interesting to seetheir business model and how it
works and all of that type ofstuff.
We've always seen it from theoutside, so it was kind of cool
to get a little bit morein-depth look at it.
Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
I'm interested in that Peddler's Jamboree Talking
about going down memory lane.
I mean that was kind of fun.
I had no idea.
Beautiful countryside, and it'sjust right over there yeah
right over there and there andthere and there and there, but
we definitely I mean we gotthree events this year which is
(01:12:00):
better than we did last year.
So, you never know.
We could look at it.
We'll see what work schedulesare.
What's going on?
That might be something wemight be able to add on.
We'll definitely talk.
Maybe they, maybe they don'thave room for us well, there is
that, but they don't.
Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
You can always come down and we'll just go hit
distilleries in missouri.
There's a lot of them andthere's several good ones.
Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
So I am listening very much, so well, I tell you
what, uh, we know, this is whenit's gone it's long yeah.
So why don't we just get intothe bookend of it and give us
the listener spotlight?
Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Absolutely.
This episode's hints forlistener spotlight are as
follows it was founded in the1850s.
The area was initially exploredby a French-Canadian trapper.
The area where this town islocated had no permanent native
(01:12:58):
settlers when the Europeansarrived.
The first settlement wascreated by a religious group.
Irrigation was the earlysettlers' first big job.
And finally, remember, busdrivers are required to stop and
(01:13:25):
open the door for trains, tocheck for trains, of course yeah
, that was yes becauseunfortunately, of a horrible
accident.
Yes, Well, this town hassomething to do with that.
Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Ooh, I'm going to text you away from the show.
Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Think you know, it, I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
You know me, I like to throw some curveballs in
there, so Well, let me tell youthis much I have a training
video that all my employees haveto watch because of the federal
law, and in the video it talksabout where they are.
But I don't want to say itright now.
Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
But remember it has something to do with it.
Keep that in mind, I'm notsaying that it is what created
it, what started it.
Whatever it had something to dowith having to open that door.
Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
And just while we're talking about that, you know
where the confusion comes intoplay.
To play, the most populartransportation vehicle right now
, unless you're a line haul busor a city bus, but if you're
more of an on-demand or adial-a-ride bus is a transit van
, and the reason why is theyconvert them into buses.
(01:14:42):
They put bus doors on the sideof them.
They can go up in the drivewayseasier to turn around.
The confusion that comes intoplay is because it's not on a
bus chassis.
It doesn't fall under thefederal law, because if it was a
bus and it stopped at railroadtracks, you'd be like oh yeah,
I'm behind a bus.
But if you're behind a transitvan and the driver stops, boom.
So it's kind of confusing.
Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Does that mean, the yellow standee line doesn't
count?
Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
There is not a federal yellow standee line,
doesn't count.
There is not a federal yellowstandee line in a transit bus,
so I, you and I always go backand forth about that so I had to
throw that in there anyway, I'mgonna tell you, uh, last story
we're actually auctioning off abus, um for a police training
and they're going to destroy thebus.
I actually wrote an email todaythat says I need to rip out the
(01:15:30):
yellow standee line because Iwant to send it to you.
Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Hey, you know what?
I would find someplace in myoffice here to put a yellow
standee line.
That's right.
Just for you, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Well, listen, I know this one went long.
I hope that people find valuein the Cycling Padres Inn.
They go to a lot of beautifulevents, five or six of the
events that you and I havepersonally done.
If we talk about it on thisshow, we stand behind it.
Definitely a great group ofgentlemen, but I think more than
(01:16:05):
that.
I think they have a great teamand I can definitely stand
behind what they stand for.
So thank you, jimmy and Dave.
It means the world to us Can'twait to see you.
I think we're going to see themfirst at Bragg.
Yes, yes, ok, so withoutfurther ado, I know what it's
(01:16:28):
not going to be nice to do byyou, and I know it's not going
to be nice to do by me, butsomewhere it is a great day for
a bike ride.
Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
See ya.
Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
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