March 16, 2025 • 68 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Well, it's time for Road Adventures with Cycling Men
of Leisure, the podcast forcyclists who understand that
riding is not just about gettingto the destination, but the
experience along the way.
Now here are the originalCycling Men of Leisure Adam and
Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Welcome to Road Adventures of Cycling Men of
Leisure.
As usual, I am Adam and I amonce again happy to be joined
with my good friend all the wayacross the country, virtually.
And happy, I hope, mr MichaelSharp, I'm always happy, adam.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Welcome, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Good, good, good, I wouldn't say clear across the
country Well, you're not here inmy town.
We're like two states away.
Three states, three states, yeah, three states.
Well, anyway, a time zone andthree states, three states, yeah
, three states.
Well, anyway, a time zone andthree states.
Well, hey, I've heard from ourleisure community a little bit,
(01:13):
so you care if I start with that.
Go ahead and start with that.
What do we got?
Andrew Thrill wrote yourselfand myself after we announced
that we were going to rain.
We're not going to make it rain, matter of fact, we're probably
going to be slow, but we aregoing to ride the rain ride, our
third event for cycling men ofleisure, although that doesn't
(01:35):
seem very leisurely to ride 160miles in one day, but we're
going to we're going to make itleisurely, though that's going
to be the beauty of it.
That's right.
Andrew was curious if we'd everdone ODRAM, and then he said
oops, I didn't listen to theshow long enough.
He said let me correct that.
Could you tell me a little bitabout ODRAM?
There we go, and so I was ableto go back to my Strava look
(01:57):
like my computer, which I knowevery computer is different.
So it doesn't mean mine's right, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not that
kind of guy that goes mine'sthe only one, that's right.
You could have three people andhave different elevation each
one we have had that's for sure.
But my computer read 1721 feetof climb.
If no one's ever done odram,you get all the elevation in the
morning, it's almost like apeak, and then you come back
(02:19):
down the rest of the day.
It's all downhill after thehalf the, but we were able to
reach out to him.
So, andrew, if that's somethingyou sign up for, myself and
Michael and our friend Joe hasdone it three times I mean two
times, I'm sorry.
And then our friend Aaron theSpeedy Sloth Look at Speedy
(02:40):
Sloth's cycling photos.
He joined us and he killed itthat day.
Robert Engstrom wrote us aboutthe Bragg jersey for this year.
He asked if it was going to bethe same as last year and the
answer is no.
No, it's not Our first yearthat we had a team was like a
(03:04):
maroon with a pretty basic, andthen last year we were able to
get a guy, a designer, who didan amazing job and we are
working behind the scenes tohave another amazing jersey.
So hopefully the team wraps upafter hey, this show comes out.
After the team wraps up, that'sokay.
We'll have final numbers, we'llhave the final.
(03:24):
That's right.
But yes to Robert and to allwho are curious, it will be a
different jersey and, with themen's team and the ladies team,
we will uniform them, make themalike, but different for ladies,
different for men, differentfor ladies, different for men.
And our friend Jim Jim Russell,who we've ridden Brag with many
(03:51):
times, oh yeah, he asked if hecan get his cross-country ride
together, if we would be willingto interview him, and the
answer is yes, oh yeah.
Absolutely, we would love tohave you on, and he made a
mention that he's between twoteams, and so I hope he selected
Cycling Men of Leisure myself.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It'd be nice, but you know what he's doing the team
thing, so that's cool, that'sright.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You know what?
This is a very small episode,although, to be fair, once again
I am traveling across thecountry and this show is being
recorded very early, so we hatedoing that, but we also don't
want to make all of our leisurecommunity wait.
And so, because I'mlollygagging on a cruise ship,
which we're going to get to alittle bit later on in the show,
(04:40):
because I have some questionsfor you, if you don't mind, okay
, all right, that's all I got.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
All right.
Well, I've got a couple ofthings Okay, so let me start off
with see if this is going towork for me.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Right now I have an M in the center of my screen for
everybody who is on YouTube.
I'm assuming M stands forMichael, although I could think
of a lot of funny M words.
Oh, there we go, hey.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Now I'm going to turn this around.
I don't know how good this isgoing to be, Okay.
I can't switch to other cameras.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Ooh, look at that behind you.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But if we get it just right here, for the people that
are watching.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
This is the project that I spoke of several times.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I took the old closet that was here, ripped it all
out, put framework behind it,put paneling up and then set
shelves Nice, and I've got someof my decanters that I've
collected.
I've got some of my bar inshelves Nice, and I've got some
of my decanters that I'vecollected.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I've got some of my bar in here.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Nice.
And what I find even cooler isI've had room to display three
of you know what I would say aresome of my most interesting
jerseys.
I've got our last year'sCycling Men of Leisure yeah,
From Bragg there.
Yeah, I got our old team sherpajersey when we were putting like
(06:06):
the stock quotes and things onthem from from rag braai yeah
yeah, yeah and then I've gotbourbon country burn and if
you'll notice up at the top likeright there you see those
ribbons those are the wristbandsfrom every year that I
participated in those rides oh,that's cool.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So the wristband on the cycling man of leisure,
those brag, brag, those are brag, these are rag bra in the
middle.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And then I've got a bourbon country burn here and
then, if you look right therewhere you see those two metals
hanging down, those are the oldRam.
Those are the old Ram metals.
So and then I just got boxes atthe bottom that stores my other
stuff.
But that is what I've beenworking on.
I finally got it all done.
I've got lighting in there,nice.
I was very happy with it.
So I thought, benz I talkedabout it a couple of times that
(06:52):
I would let everybody see it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Leave that screen up for a second.
I'm going to share my ODRAMmetal story.
I know I've told it before, butI think it's worth retelling
(07:15):
because that was told many moonsago and, depending on how far
back people go on episodes.
So in 2021, you and I completedOdeRam together, one of our
adventures together.
The next day I was flying outironically for wife and I got
back and they not only give youa medal, but the t-shirt is also
an item that they give you or Ibought.
I don't want to lie, I don'tknow if they give you, but I had
a t-shirt.
How about that?
(07:36):
And I said to my wife and ofcourse, marriage is always
screaming what from the otherroom, right, I mean, you know,
upstairs, downstairs?
And I said you know, I thinkI'm going to wear this on the
plane tomorrow.
And she said you're going towear that on the plane tomorrow?
And I said yeah, I mean it's165 miles in one day.
(08:00):
I'm proud of it.
She said, yeah, but you're anadult.
I mean you don't need to bewearing that on the airplane, I
love it.
And I said what are you talkingabout?
And we have this likedisagreement.
Now we're going to take offthat afternoon to go, literally
go to the airport.
(08:20):
And she says I just can'tbelieve you're going to wear
that on the airplane.
She's like are you even goinggonna be able to get through tsa
on it with it?
And I'm like what are youtalking about?
I go, it's a t-shirt.
And she said, oh, she said Ithought you were gonna wear the
metal on the airplane.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Oh, my goodness hey, everyone look at me that's right
I could just see you walking,walking through the, uh, the
airport, yeah, yeah, uh,sporting this, this metal right
here.
And I could just see youwalking through the airport
sporting this medal right here.
And I could even see you goinglook.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I rode.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
O-Tram 165 miles.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So for those of you who are not on YouTube and not
watching, it is in the shape ofa hand.
Of course you've probably seenpeople reminisce Michigan as the
hand.
And then there's a line acrossof where the route was, and so
it goes from Rothbury, Michigan,to Bay city.
You stay at the double J ranch,you go.
Our first year we didn't go outto the, go out to Lake Michigan
(09:17):
first, but then our second timewe did it.
We did go to Lake Michigan allthe way to Bay city in one day.
So, and a little side note forthose of you who know that I
tout my de brim over and overand over, I have a confession.
I hope you're sitting down.
I hope you got rid of it.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yay and the peasants rejoice.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
No, no, no, I did get rid of it on that ride and you
know this already.
We were about 145 miles in thewind took it off my head.
I was so exhausted and michaelsaid you gonna go back for it.
I said forget it, I don't care.
And he's like you, sure I saidforget it, let's just keep going
.
I don't want to stop, but I was.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I was willing to go back with you, though let's you
were that in the story?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
yes, you were, you were absolutely.
I mean, you were actually.
Not only, not only were youwilling, you were kind of, you
were trying to be supportive.
Come on, man, go back and getit.
You know you want I'm like I'lljust buy another one.
I was so exhausted and and thenall of a sudden we get to the
end and we take our pictures anda guy comes up and goes is this
yours?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I was yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And since then I would definitely go back for it
now.
But uh, yes, I just wanted toshare that story.
I like your presentation.
That's nice yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I was.
I was really happy, uh, becausethere's two more shelves there
that have like my books andstuff on it.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I thought what if I could take and frame a couple of
jerseys and put them up there?
That would look really cool.
And it came out really nice.
And if you look at like thebottoms of the frames, like on
the middle one, you see all thedifferent rag brai, uh luggage
tags that we have on the brag.
I've got the key chains and theluggage uh nice, you know the
luggage things.
And then on my one from bourbon, from Bourbon Country Burn,
(11:04):
I've got our numbers and Iactually even threw in the
Buffalo Trace visitor wristthing and so I thought you know
what, that would be a nice wayto showcase that.
So I was pretty excited when Ifinally got it done.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I love it all except for the Nebraska Cornhuskers,
but we're going to leave thatalone.
I mean, I know that's where youwent to school and I see the
bottle of.
Blanton's there.
Yeah, there's a, it's in thecenter, I like that.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Bottle of Blantons and got several things up there.
So that is the extension of myCollection.
My bar, no.
My bar in the other room, so nono, no, no, it's not a
collection.
It's not a collection because Iwill go up there and drink any.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Okay, I like it, man.
What are the wooden boxes below?
Are those those are?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
just miscellaneous wooden boxes I have.
There's an old militaryfootlocker and an ammunition box
, some old wine boxes, thingslike that that.
I've just got some of my othercollections that do not fit on
my shelves over here, so I justhave them organized down there.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
If I am Scott Garwick or I am Armando, who I know for
a fact, both of those gentlemenprefer to watch us on the show.
Will I be seeing this as abackground, or will I be seeing
the cameras as a background?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Well, I've got another camera that I can't
switch to right now becausewe're in the middle of recording
Okay, because I haven't got theswitcher put together yet but
with that camera you'll be ableto see this and my camera
collection over here, I think.
So you'll get like some of thisand my cameras in the
background, so that's my goal.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
You mean like this if I switch here.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Or here.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
But see, I can't do that with what I've got going on
right now.
As a as a genuine friend, as asa as a genuine michigander, I
gave you a video switcher, andso that'll be.
We can get that set up for you.
I just need to get it set up soI'll help you.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's all right so then I could, you know, have
that and have this, but with theone camera, without the
switcher, I'll be able to getthe cameras in the background,
the decanters, my bar and myjersey.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
So then you can do this or you can have two.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Oh, there you go.
Yeah, they need two of me.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
No, they don't need two of me either.
That's why I switched it backpretty fast.
So well, that's cool, man.
I really like your project.
I like how it came together.
It looks classy, it definitelylooks nice.
And let's talk about just for asecond, the center.
We definitely kept the namestrong because, as we've talked
about, we've we've finited ourpacking, but in the beginning,
(13:37):
we definitely kept the sherpaproud.
We needed a sherpa with all thestuff oh yeah, with all the
stuff I brought um, and youtalked about the stock symbols
and because we no one knows, ourfriendship started that day
(14:02):
that you helped me in 2016, atrag braRAI, when I didn't think
I was going to make my journeyof my first century.
You were just picking things totalk about and you said what
are you into, or whatever.
And just out of a randomquestion, you said are you into
investing at all?
And I said yeah, and that'spretty much what finished our
(14:23):
ride.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Talk about that.
Yeah, for like the last 50miles or something that was
pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And then, uh, um, although hold on to your, okay,
never mind, this is differentplace, different show, but um,
but what we did we did is wewere designing our own jerseys
before we, before we, we hadsome help designing it, and so
we went to a company and we,there's, there's three stocks
that we always talk about.
(14:49):
Dollar general is is a longtime running joke, although,
yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
We've already talked about that one on past shows.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And then Starbucks is because I'm a Starbucks junkie.
And then let's see, oh, casey's.
Casey's which, by the way, Iwould like to officially thank
your wife, and I'm going to tellyou why.
We were on our way.
The first time I came to visityour family, we were on our way
(15:22):
to a restaurant in Missouri Tobe fair, you live in Kansas but
there was a restaurant acrossthe border and on the way there
she said I wonder if Casey'swould be a good thing to invest
in.
And so, just for blanks andgiggles oh, I got my button back
, just for and giggles.
I started throwing some money.
(15:43):
Let me just say I need to thankyour wife right here officially
.
It's been a phenomenalinvestment.
So thank you, chasity, Iappreciate that.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
She occasionally gets lucky every once in a while,
but I've got some too.
It's done well for me, so Ican't complain.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
No, I like it.
I like your background, nicejob, thank you.
Oh, I like it.
I like your background, nicejob, thank you.
Well, with that being said,should we move into what
everyone looks forward to andguesses?
Let's do it.
The listener spotlight.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Are we ready?
I'm ready.
All right, here we go.
The area was initially exploredby a French-Canadian trapper.
It was founded in the mid-1850s.
Okay, the area where the townis located had no permanent
(16:38):
Native American settlers whenthe Europeans arrived.
The first settlement wascreated by a religious group.
Irrigation was the earlysettlers' first big job, so that
ought to give you some hints.
And remember that bus driversare required to stop and open
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the door to check for trains.
This town has something to dowith that.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Any guesses?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I am intrigued.
I had actually told you off therecord that I thought it was
something to do with New Mexico.
I went back to my trainer andasked her, because we have a
video where the buses are and,yeah, I don't think they ever
they don't ever make a mention.
I just think the background ofthe video images I must have
(17:32):
like one of those things whereyou remember something from
something Based upon how theyshot the video and where they
shot the video.
That's where I got the NewMexico, so I don't think it's
New Mexico.
I don't have a guess.
Okay, Well, it got the NewMexico, so I don't think it's
New Mexico.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I don't have a guess.
Okay, well, it's not New Mexico.
It's close, very close.
The listener spotlightcommunity for this episode is
South Jordan, utah.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Oh, okay, south Jordan.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yep, founded in the 1850s by a French-Canadian
trapper with the last name ofProvost.
The first settlement wascreated by a religious group,
which was the Church of JesusChrist of Latter-day Saints.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Obviously, being in Utah, irrigation was their first
major job that they had to workon before they could really
have, you know, any kind offarming or stuff there.
And that bus driver requirementas far as opening the door,
that's because on December 1stof 1938, there was the worst bus
(18:38):
crash in the US history.
There, you know, a train hit abus and it led to the federal
law which mandates that buses doare required to stop and check.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yes, for sure, and I told you I think it was not
recording that it's confusingfor some of my drivers because
we have multiple modes oftransportation.
We have minivans, we have whatthey call a transit van, which
is like if you've watchedAmerican Pickers, that size
vehicle where they drove aroundand you know, got that those
(19:14):
don't have to stop, but it'sdefinitely if it is, if it is
designated as a bus, as thetransportation expert on this
show.
Yes, sir, must stop.
Funny story about that.
And then we will.
We will go back.
So I had my grandfather when hewas still alive.
He made it to one week shy 99.
So what a life.
I was on the phone and and Iused to drive the bus, but I had
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him in the car and I was takinghim to an appointment and I got
to the tracks and, just becauseof memory, I was in a minivan
and I stopped at the tracks andhe goes waiting for a train.
I said no, I you know what.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Just making sure one's not coming, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's right.
But um well, listen um.
I really appreciate all of ourlisteners.
Utah huh Nice.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
South Jordan, utah.
Population 77,487.
So thank you for listening fromSouth Jordan, Utah.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, that's amazing.
I did miss one, and I justrealized it, from our listener
community.
Keith and Melanie said thattheir son lives in Wyoming and
if he doesn't listen in May,Michael, they are going to visit
him.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Will I get my Wyoming listener?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Keith says that you're going to get in May.
Now, if you don't know this,keith and Melanie, my DeBrim
fellow friends he's been— Trynot to hold that against him.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Hey.
They're good people.
He is retrofitting a van aslike a you know van life or
(21:01):
maybe a van vacation, vacationvan.
He's putting cabinetry and bedsand sinks and they're
retrofitting.
So I think that might be one oftheir van trips out to Wyoming.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
So they're, they're creating a Euro van, so to speak
.
You know, like that's what I,that's what they kind of call it
in Europe, a Euro van.
I mean, it's got, you know likeyou live in it, you know it's
got places to sleep and it's got, you know, a small little
kitchen area in there and thingslike that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, and the bikes are on there.
I think they're looking totravel with it.
But in May, which is about twomonths away, you're going to get
your Wyoming list.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Oh, finally, wyoming has just vexed me.
It's like come on, somebody inWyoming rides bikes.
You want to listen.
But oh well, we'll get theresometime.
But I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
So you're driving the show today?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
buddy, you said you had some things about I wanted
to bring up.
I know our community has heardus talk several times that we've
spent a week or two in Floridathis year golfing me, working
you, golfing us both, golfing useating and us having some
(22:17):
drinks and I thought it might beinteresting.
We came across some veryinteresting drinks.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We did.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
And I thought we'd talk a little bit about that.
Um, lots of flames wereinvolved in some of these drinks
, so that was kind of cool.
So, uh, the first one on mylist I thought we'd talk about
is, uh, your burnt orange.
Yes, we're from.
Uh, I think it was uh calledblue, called Blue Zoo.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Todd English's Blue Zoo.
Okay.
And that's in the Swan and Swan, and I think it was in the
Dolphin Resort, but it couldhave been the Swan Resort.
I could look it up.
Okay, dolphin.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Well, they're both together there.
But yeah, swans in front,dolphins in the back, but it's
in the first floor of that.
Neither of us had ever eatenthere before, but they had a
drink called a burnt orange thatyou partook in.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It was.
It was a tequila-based drinkand it was what intrigued me is
it said it comes to you on fireand I was like, well, I mean,
what could go wrong with settingsomething on fire?
I'm all in baby, carting itthrough a dining room hey, why
not?
And definitely came to thetable on fire.
(23:31):
I think it was a candied orangewith a little liqueur on top.
That's why they were able toset it on fire.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, what it had is.
It had silver tequila infusedwith oranges, and they had
combined that with guava, grandMarnier orange juice and then
they topped it with that flamingorange.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Okay, so it comes to you and they set it in front of
you and this orange is likeproducing flame it in front of
you and this orange is likeproducing flame, and at first I
thought that the flame was justgoing to be like the, you know,
like the get it, get yourmarketing to get you to buy it.
But I will tell you that afterthe flame went out, it actually
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helped add.
It add a very distinct flavorto the cocktail, and so not only
was it neat to have somethingcome to your table on fire which
is that's always fun, um but itactually, it gave it a distinct
flavor, and so it was, it was avery enjoyable cocktail, oh,
cool.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
No, it looked very fun.
Uh, I'm glad that the flamingorange actually added something
to it and wasn't just, uh, forpresentation purposes, that's
kind of neat as well.
The food was very good there, soI was very happy and that I got
to say he came around which I'msurprised you didn't hop in
with this story.
But he came around and was like, would you guys like dessert?
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And he gave us.
I said, sure, let's see whatyou got.
And none of it looked very good.
But a little girl behind us hadbeen had this big old thing of
ice cream and I was like, do youhave any ice cream?
And it's like, yeah, we've gotsome ice cream on the kids menu.
And I was like, bring me that.
Well, what I didn't realize, itwasn't just like a bowl of ice
cream.
It had like an ice cream conestuck in and it like looked like
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I don't know a unicorn orsomething and it had all these.
Like when you busted into thecone there was all this candy
that flooded out.
I just wanted the ice cream,but I wound up buying the
dessert off the kids menu and itwas quite humorous when it came
to my table.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
You had a dessert and a pinata all mixed in one.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
It was.
Yeah, it was interesting.
And there was a family with twokids sitting next to me and
both those kids were likelooking at me, and I think the
parents were kind of like, Hmm,what's wrong with this guy.
But the other desserts none ofthem look that good and I was
feeling like ice cream, so I gotice cream.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I was hoping that they would think that you were
special and we'd get a discount,but we didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Not special in any kind of way that matters.
Let me tell you no, no, Okay,so we had that one.
The other one that was reallycool, I thought, was from the
Delilah Lounge, which we've botheaten at.
It's right next to the what isit?
Topolino's.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Toledo, toledo.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
The Toledo Bar.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Which is at the top restaurant, at the top of the
Coronado.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Springs Tower.
There you go At Disney WorldToledo, the Toledo bar, right
next to Toledo, which is at thetop restaurant, at the top of
the Coronado Springs Tower.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
There you go At Disney World and there's a
lounge right outside and we werewaiting for our table and so
they give you a list.
It's really quite cool and youget to choose your whiskey, your
simple syrup and your bitter.
And they've got, you know, fromlike the whiskeys, you get
Elijah Craig, bullet or BuffaloTrace or Jim Bean Black, things
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like that Maker's Mark, and thenyou get to choose your simple
syrups.
So is there anything from justlike regular simple syrup, the
classic, to maple, orange,saffron, blueberry or vanilla,
and then you even get to go farenough to get your bitters.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Well, you can't go wrong with bitters.
The interesting thing aboutthat is Armando was with us.
Armando came out to join usthat night and he was
participating in Dry January,and so I normally wouldn't sell
him out, but I kept making jokes.
(27:29):
I'm like, well, what about dryvermouth?
What about a dry wine?
What about?
And he stood strong and so hedid not participate in the
create your own old-fashioned.
Now I am disappointed in myselection.
Not that it wasn't good.
I chose the orange saffron.
I was on a kick of like orangebitter drinks and so cocktails
(27:54):
that you would use orangebitters, and so I was like, oh
man, that's amazing, I'm goingto get the orange bitters.
And then I think the simplesyrup was.
There was an orange simplesyrup, and so I actually I got
both of those and, to be honest,it was just my choosing.
It's my own fault, but it wasjust my choosing.
(28:14):
It's my own fault, but it wastoo sweet.
It wasn't like an old fashioned, it was more like a, I don't
know, like an orange juice.
Orange juice loaded orangejuice is the best way I can say
it.
So I would definitely do itdifferent, but the fact that you
could choose your own waspretty cool.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I think my simple syrup was the blueberry and I
chose the Mexican chocolate onmy bitters because they had,
like regular bitters, orangebitters, smoked chili which
would have been interestingMexican chocolate and apple
blossom.
So mine was interesting becauseI kind of had that blueberry
and then I had the chocolateyflavor.
So, yeah, it was a good drink.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Which reminds me and I hope I'm not, since we didn't
talk about this before recordingwhen was it that we have a
tobacco bitters drink?
Was that?
Was that Toledo?
I mean Edison?
No, oh, that was.
Oh, you know where that was?
That was the basement speakeasywhat's yeah and enzos or enzos,
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yeah, yeah and enzos.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, they had an old-fashioned that had a tobacco
bitters yeah which was, youcould taste a little bit of that
tobacco-y flavor, which wasvery, very good, I thought.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
What's funny is we totally screwed up that night.
I mean, can you really screw upby having cocktails?
Probably not.
But we went to Enzo's and westarted there and we had this
delicious, old-fashioned, I meanit was like it was a classy,
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classy cocktail.
And then, because it was whatdo you call it?
Uh, between three and six happyhour because, it was happy hour
.
We went over to edison uh atdisney springs and they had a
four roses, old-fashioned.
It was like eight bucks.
I'm like eight bucks, I'm gonnahave that, because where else
can you get a cocktail at disneyworld $8?
For $8.
But because we had had such thehigh-end cocktail, we went.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
We went the wrong way ?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, we went the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
For sure, you need to start with the cheap cocktail
and then go to the higher end,that's right.
Oh well.
Yeah, it was still good.
But you mentioned the Edison.
I'd like to talk a little bitabout that.
The Edisonison, if you've neverbeen there, is very 1920s.
Uh, steamer punk, um, they playin the background.
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They're playing like uh, 1920s.
Basically you're playing modernmusic done to like a 1920s
swing.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
so they'll have like modern songs in the 1920s swing
uh version, or you know yeah,it's like going to a wedding and
and then you know the, the djplays piano versions of like
acdc.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Back in black, exactly same thing um, and it's
kind of got a steamer, punk,industrial.
Look, it's really fun.
Uh, you and I have been theredozens of times, um, but they've
got some really good.
They do a really good smoked,old-fashioned.
One of the really interestingdrinks are things that you can
do there.
Uh is their whistle pig flight.
You can do, uh, a flight ofwhistle pig which has a 6, the
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10 and the 12 year on there, sothat's kind of interesting.
But uh, they, what I reallylike and I didn't know it until
this time around, cause we saw aguy and we asked him about it
is they have a secret drinkprogram and uh, it's called high
rollers cocktails and thesecocktails are in the book but
they're always in the back and Inever had gotten to that.
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Uh, they're expensive, but uh,every single one that you get,
you get a coin, but every singleone that you get.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
you get a coin.
Oh God, here we go.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Just because, according to the Edison, I am in
fact, ladies and gentlemen, ifyou can see it, if you're
watching us right here, courtneythe Edison, I am a high roller.
Yes, it says it right there,back of the coin high roller no
you're jealous.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
You're jealous, so you know I think it's pretty
cool and and the concept is isis each one of those cocktails
you get, you get the high rollercoin.
Now, if you get one, you couldhave it as a collector piece and
little souvenir knick-knack,paddywhack.
But if you get four of those,four of those high roller coins
right there, my friend, then youcould trade it for one of the
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high roller drinks, that's right.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
So I went ahead and splurged and got a high roller
drink.
I keep my high roller coinright up there to remind Adam
that he is not, according to theEdison, a high roller, but
that's okay.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Do you ever like?
Bust that out.
Bust that out when yourdaughter comes in.
I am a high roller.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
You know I'm thinking about putting a hole through it
and sticking it right here onmy necklace, so it's like look
right here, high roller.
I might just do that.
But they had a number ofdifferent drinks and they were
very interesting, but they hadone that I had to try and it was
called Fire in Vermont andliterally they light the bar on
fire.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
And what this has is?
It says Whistlepig 10-year ryein it, it's got vermouth, it's
got cherry brandy, it's gotBogart's bitters, and then it's
got flame kissed.
Uh, flame kissed, caramelizedabsinthe wash and uh, they bring
it out and there's this wholepresentation and the bar's
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flaming and all this kind ofstuff.
So I had been looking at it andfinally I was like you know
what I'm doing it?
So I uh, I don't remember whatour, what our waitress or what
our server's name was, but Ilike tell you what I said let's
burn the bar.
And so she got all the stuffand lit it up and of course,
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everybody's gathering aroundwatching, you know, the flames
come off the bar and things likethat.
So it was a really fun drink,really interesting program, and
I just wanted to share it witheverybody that we had a good
time.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
It must be fun for those bartenders to make those
cocktails, because when you weretalking about it, she overheard
us talking and she said if youorder it, let me make it.
And I think they must enjoydoing that because there's a
brass tray.
If you go there, you'll see it,but there's a brass tray.
Copper there, you'll see it,but there's a brass tray copper
oh, thank you, yep copper.
(34:36):
It's about six inch channelwhere they put all the booze are
going to burn in there, um, oris it the absence that they burn
?
I don't know, I can't lie Idon't know, whatever they I
don't know whatever the residualof the and then they put, like,
uh, some sort of salt or sugarin there, so it actually sparks
up even more.
And, yes, you have somephotographs of them lighting it
(34:58):
on fire.
So now I do have a questionabout that.
Yeah, being the history guythat you are, was there some
sort of instrumental fire inVermont that I?
I mean?
Was there anything that cancome to mind?
Why would the drink be calledFire in Vermont?
Any idea with that?
Or?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
That I do not know.
That's an interesting question.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I'm going to search while you're talking.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, I was trying to look at the ingredients to see
if anything here jumped out thatwould be, you know, hooked to
Vermont.
It might have to do with theabsence, but I don't know.
So but that's a good question.
But we encountered a lot ofgreat drinks.
We had a lot of differentflavors, combinations in our old
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fashions that we tried, and wetried some other things that
obviously weren't old fashions,but it was definitely,
definitely a leisuringexperience that I wanted to make
sure that we share.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
So nothing that comes up real quick on Google, but
maybe there's something I'mmissing or maybe maybe I will do
some investigation and find outwhy they call it fire in
Vermont.
All else fails.
Hello, thanks for calling theEdison.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I have a really weird question.
Can I speak with your barmanager, please, or someone at
the bar?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Okay, well, I just figured.
You know you usually have a lotof interesting facts about
things that have happened inthis great country and I didn't
know if you knew, so I apologize.
No, it's a good question.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Like I said, I went down through.
I was no, it's, it's a goodquestion.
Like I said, I went downthrough the uh, through what was
in it, thinking that maybe oneof the components was you know
kind of a vermont, uh, you knowproduct or something.
But no, so I will see what Ican find out on that.
All right, uh, enough, talkabout that, let's see what else.
(36:56):
You said something aboutcruises.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, you're going on one.
Yeah, I'm going on one, but Ijust got a question for you and
you and I have never spoke aboutthis and I said you know what?
I'm going to save it for theshow, Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
What do you want to talk about?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
talk about is the sharp family.
When you cruise, do you doexcursions through the cruise
ship or do you like to explore?
When you get to the islands, uh, it seems like like when my
wife and I went on our firstcruise together.
You know, you're planning athome and you're dreaming and
you're like, oh, this cruise is.
You know we're gonna go to Idon't know um, you know we're
going to go to, I don't know, stMartin.
We're going to go to St Martin.
Oh, let's go out to where theplanes land, right near the
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beach.
And then you could, you know,get on a bus and take the
excursion.
And it got me thinking, becausemy wife and I are getting ready
for ours and we're going withmy golf partner of 22 years and
good friend, and so the four ofus are going.
You got me thinking do you guysdo excursions?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
We do do excursions, because I mean, you basically
have three choices for those ofyou that that don't cruise.
You can do an excursion that'ssponsored by the cruise ship,
which they generally have.
You know a dozen or moredifferent things, so you can do
and it's sponsored by the cruiseship, which they generally have
.
You know a dozen or moredifferent things that you can do
, and it's sponsored by thecruise ship, or it's done
through the cruise ship, so it'svery organized.
When you get off the cruiseship, they'll tell you exactly
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where to go, and then peoplecome and meet you and you can do
an excursion on your own.
You can just, you know, do aninternet search, say, oh, that
looks like fun, the cruise shipisn't offering something like
that and do it that way, whichmeans that you have to do a lot
of the legwork.
You have to go through thecompany, do your reservations
and then, when you get there,you have to get to the company
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or wherever they're doing theexcursion from, and things like
that.
Or the third option is you juststay on the boat, and I've
always had a problem.
It's like I'm not the type ofperson that I just want to stay
on the boat.
I mean, you know we can get off, we can see something I've
never seen before.
I want to go explore.
But I know a lot of people whohave maybe been to, you know,
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martinique or Cozumel orwhatever.
Dozens of times are like youknow what.
Let everybody else get off theboat and, uh, we're going to go
hang out down at the poolbecause there's going to be like
nobody there.
We can set right at the bar, wecan get great things like that.
So, uh, there is someadvantages to not doing an
excursion and let everybody elsego out and do their shopping,
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do their excursion, and you geta lot of the boat to yourself or
to a very small group of people.
I've always Sharp Family hasalways done excursions.
We do excursions through theboat and we've got, you know,
some younger people with us.
So it's one of those thingswhere, if you do the excursion
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through the boat generally, youjust get off the boat and
there's somebody there to meetyou and say, hey, everybody,
we're doing this excursion, comeover here, they load you into a
mini bus and then they take youto wherever you're going to do
the excursion.
So it makes it very simple fromthe dad point of view, and me
when I'm looking out for youknow three other people and
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we've done it with her familybefore, where there was even
more it's just easier becauseit's like, okay, we're right
here, let's just follow.
The other advantage to doing theexcursions through the ship is
if, say, you go and you'redelayed some reason, yeah,
there's a big traffic jam orsomething like that, and you're
delayed some reason, you knowthere's a big traffic jam or
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something like that, and you'rethrough the ship, the ship will
make arrangements to wait foryou because it's their excursion
.
Right, if you're on your own,if I'm like I'm going to go out
and see, you know, do goat yogaon the other side of the island
and I don't make it back in time, I can call the ship or
whatever.
But they're going to say well,we sail at this time, there is
no waiting, I'm on my own.
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And if I miss a ship, guesswhat?
I have to make arrangements tomeet the ship at the next port.
Whether it be a boat, a plane,you know, whatever it might be,
that's all on me.
But if I do an excursionthrough them, I don't have that
hassle.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
So that's kind of a peace of mind, you know for me
ever seen those youtube videoswhere people are running down
the running down the dock whatare you talking about?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
I typically, when we do cruises, we get ones that
have balconies, so we can watchpeople so we're, the people out
there on the on the balcony, youknow, sitting there like
screaming at them come on, youcan make it, you can make it.
And they're, like you know,chugging along with, you know,
bags of whatever they've boughtand all this kind of stuff and
they're hustling along becauseyou know this fear is going
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through them.
It's like, oh my God, my boat'sright there.
They could close that door atany time, right, and you know
they're just everybody's linedout on the on the balconies,
yelling it for them and tellthem you can make it.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
And you kind of feel like you're at the Olympics or
something Olympic tryouts.
Come on, you can do it.
Sorry, yeah, I was just curiouswhat you do.
I mean, you and I have nevertalked about that before.
So since we are encompassingall things leisure, I figured I
would save it for the show.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
So what do you do?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I like excursions through the ship.
On this particular boat, thefirst three days are days at sea
.
We're going to take out of FortLauderdale and then we're going
to go to St Kitts as our firstisland and then by the time I
get to St Kitts, I'm going to behappy to get off that boat.
But I know what you're talkingabout.
Some people are like you knowwhat, we're not getting off that
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boat.
But I know what you're talkingabout.
Some people are like you knowwhat, we're not getting off the
boat.
We've been to st kitts 14 timesin the last 18 cruises or
whatever.
And then and then they're goingto be like well, when you're
all off the boat, then we canget the flow rider to ourself
and we can get the rock climbingwall and not have to wait.
I know, I know what you'retalking about, but by the time I
get there, I mean it's not likeevery day I'm going to St Kitts
.
I mean today I went hiking inthe snow.
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So the idea is if I can besomewhere in the Caribbean.
Now they do have certainrecommendations where you
shouldn't stay too far off, likeCozumel.
You mentioned Cozumel.
We're not going to Cozumel onthis trip, but I've been there
and they don't recommend gettingoff the beaten path and they
recommend staying in pairs andstaying together and and and you
(43:19):
know but.
But I was just curious.
I, I agree with you.
There's a comfort level for methat if I go out and you know, I
go down to the Aqua theater orthe theater and they say, okay,
here's your sticker and you'relooking for bus 12.
And then if bus 12 breaks down,they're going to bring me bus
38 to get me back, so thatthere's a there's a comfort
(43:40):
level for me where I, you know,I, I like saying kids, but I
don't want to stay there.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Well, you know, honestly, there's times that if
it was just me, or maybe myselfand my wife, I would, you know,
maybe consider some otheractivities that weren't directly
there, just because it's likeyou know what, if something
happened and we miss the, missthe ship, um, yeah, it's going
to be a disruption, but we can,we can make it work.
(44:07):
But you know, when you add kidsin there, then you've got that
extra layer of you know they'renot, as you know, accepting of
whatever situation you getthrown into, right.
So, and you know, I mean kidsjust why, are we back on?
the ship, and why do we got towait for this and do you know so
?
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I've got coworkers who truly believe that you're.
You know you could do itcheaper.
Believe that you're.
You know you could do itcheaper and I'm always like you
could.
But now use that.
That.
That St Martin airport, I knowit's a.
I mean, I know it's a huge draw.
You see everyone you know goingwith a 747 is 14 inches off
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your head, you know, by thebeach and where people are
getting stuff blown away becausethe jets, you know, fire up to
take off.
If you take a taxi out thereand there's no taxi to take you
back, I hope you got your creditcard.
Yeah, you're still waiting forthe Uber.
Yeah, your passport andeverything else.
So, yeah, it's an interestingconversation.
I you know we.
(45:10):
What about the drink package?
Are you guys people who get thedrink package when you go?
Speaker 3 (45:15):
if you go on a cruise line that offers it, like I
went on Disney, they didn'toffer a drink package, so they
offered classes where you couldlearn about whiskey and and
taste different things and I andI most of the time, if they
offer, like, a whiskey tastingclass or something like that, I
take it because I enjoy it and Inever know what they're going
to bring to the table, and everytime, typically they find
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something that I'm not thatfamiliar with and I can learn
about it.
So I I really enjoy those.
You know, whiskey and tequilaclasses, just to uh, number one,
uh, maybe find something Ididn't know, uh, or it's also
fun because now you're in a roomfull of people who really like
whiskey or interested in whiskey, and you can have some, some
good conversations, um, you know, and you can meet some people
(45:58):
you'll see later, uh, on theship.
So that's always a good time,um, but so I always do that.
As far as the package, I do notthink we've ever done the drink
package.
Now, I know my wife goes oncruises with, like, her
girlfriends and they'll do that,um, but honestly, I mean,
you've really gotta just beserious about drinking to really
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, you know, cause it's there'sthere's so many drinks that they
put in front of you that youcan drink each day and all that
kind of stuff that I'm like.
I, you know, I'm not one ofthose people that I'm just like
completely boozed up.
When I'm on the ship I like, uh, you know, a couple of drinks
throughout the day, but I'm notdrinking that much.
Where the drink package reallyhelps me, a lot of times she
gets it, because if you're in acabin on a lot of ships with
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other people, who gets a drinkpackage, um, I just don't drink
enough for it to really makesense.
And when I do drink, typicallyI'm drinking.
You know I want to have topshelf stuff not to sound like a
snob, but you know I'm wantingto have the, the higher end
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stuff.
A lot of times it's notincluded in the drink vacation.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I mean you, you deserve it.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
I mean you work hard, you got a long commute, kidding
Plus there's things on thecruise ship that you can find
that are not easy to find hereat home, and most of the time,
because they've gotten theirallocated liquors and stuff at
such good prices, they're notcharging you some hugely
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inflated price for the drinkdrink, so it's generally
relatively affordable, uh, fortheir higher end stuff, and so
that's generally the way I goand plus, you don't drink coffee
, and so I'm not.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I'm not throwing you under the bus, you just don't
know what coffee so yeah and soI'm going on royal and, and
they've kind of pretty much madeit where you either buy some
sort of package what I mean bysome sort of, as they offer like
a soda package, if you wantsoda, they offer, um, a coffee
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card if you want so many coffees, and then the drink package,
you can have it all.
And so for us we do do it.
Um, because, um, because, um,not just, it's not just for the
alcohol.
You know, I work out in themorning and and then I can go
get my premium coffee and thenthey give bottles of water and
and so I mean you have to, youhave to work the system to make
sure you're getting your money'sworth.
(48:25):
Sure, I actually have an excelspreadsheet on which I'm sure
you're not surprised that by allat all.
But uh, I've got an excelspreadsheet that says okay, if
you, because I can, the waythose boats work is it's not
just like one price today andthat's it.
They offer so many differentprices between the cruises.
A game you've got to play youcan buy in here, but then, if
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you can find it cheaper, thenyou just call up and keep giving
your money back.
I always find it a way for Royalto make money off my money,
because then eventually it'll becheaper, cheaper, cheaper.
But I've got a thing where it'sjust, if you pay this with the
gratuities and if you get eightpremium coffees and two bottles
of water a day and everythingelse, I mean you really have to
make it work.
Now, saying that, I have somefriends who went on a cruise,
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bought the drink package and,unfortunately, who went on a
cruise, bought the drink packageand unfortunately, like on the
second day, um, they testedpositive for the influenza and
they said they were quarantinedto the room for two, two, three
days.
I'm gonna say three days, maybetwo and a half days.
So those were three days thatthere was no.
First of all they felt likecomplete manierda, but then, uh,
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um, there were three days therewhere you were not buying, you
know, getting your coffees,drinks or whatever couldn't, you
, couldn't you do room servicecould have done room service.
Yeah, but I'm I don't think heeven felt like drinking.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Okay, completely down and out, but uh, um, it's, it's
always a gamble yeah, and I andI do think, uh, on some of our
cruises I know like Disney, youget like the free ice cream and
you get free soda and things.
But I think on the othercruises that we've went on, I
think we may have gotten, likethe soda package, yeah, but as
far as the liquor, no.
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Although I will say cruises aregreat, especially with kids,
because then it's like one ofthose things.
It's like if Chas and I want togo out and do something later
in the evening, the kids caneasily stay in the cabin by
themselves.
And you've got TV and they'vegot their electronics and all
this kind of stuff.
And the first time we went wesaid hey, you know what, if you
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guys get hungry, you guys cancall room service, because room
service, you know.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Included.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Exactly, and they guys can call room service,
because room serve, you know,included exactly.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
and they were like, I imagine, as a parent.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
It's a, it's a godsend oh yeah, it's like, well
, how does that work?
And we explained we call thisnumber and you can.
You know, here's the menu.
You can order whatever you wantto.
They'll bring it to your thing.
We left them some you know somecash, so it's like you tip them
.
We explained how the tippingthing worked and, oh my, they
thought that was the coolestthing ever.
It's like I could just pick upthe phone and food shows up at
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my door 10 minutes later.
This is awesome.
So the kids you know, a couplenights did not mind hanging out
because you know they could gettheir ice cream or their
hamburgers or what you know,whatever snacks they wanted.
And then I do have to say myson, max, whom you're very
familiar with, loves hamburgers.
That's his thing.
And we went and they had GuyFierro's hamburger place.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
And they ask when you're going through, do you
want a single burger or a doubleburger?
And of course it's all includedin what you've already paid,
right.
And he's like, really, they'regoing to.
And the first time he's like,can I get a double burger?
It's like, well, yeah, my onlyrule is, if you're going to take
it, eat it, right.
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So, yeah, if you want a doubleburger, get a double burger.
Oh my God, he thought that wasthe greatest thing.
And so by the end of the weekhe was like eating you know
three burger hamburgers and youknow.
So he just thought that was thegreatest thing.
Acton's diet Just don't eat thebread, just eat young.
You know you can get away withthat, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
I'm just curious.
I figured I would, since we arerecording a little bit early
and the whole purpose is.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
I started thinking about.
Like you know, I never talkedto Michael about that.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
So, yeah, um, one thing I did want to bring up
we've got an exciting interviewcoming up.
We do, we do.
It's, uh, shane Cusick frombike Virginia.
Um, I don't want to give a lotof it away.
Um, we have already recorded it.
It'll be our next show.
Um, all I want to say is shanedid a great job um the
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information that he passed onabout he builds bikes for
children and he talked aboutBike Virginia and the direction,
and that's really all I want tosay.
I just wanted to tease that.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Yeah, it's a good interview.
He was a really goodinterviewee.
We talked about his bikecompany, we talked about what
Cycling Virginia is doingbecause they're making some
changes to kind of address thechanges that are going on in the
industry, and it was a reallygood one.
Now it is a little long, I willsay that, but I also have to
(53:12):
remind people that you know,adam and I like to be as organic
as possible and when interviewsgo, we just like to go with it
and we also don't like to editout a bunch of stuff.
And I know a lot of shows arelike edit it because we want the
interview to be 20 minutes, sowe'll edit out a bunch of stuff.
We just like to keep it flowing.
Some people don't like that,but we've got a lot of feedback
(53:34):
from people that just says youknow, I really like it because
you guys are kind of honest andyou're transparent and you're
just very organic and you knowwhat you see is what you get.
So it is going to be a longerepisode but it's got some really
interesting components to it sofull transparency.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
I watched the interview so so I could look at
it again and you know, I thoughtbefore watching it I thought,
well, maybe there might be asegment, since it is long, that
maybe I could maybe omit or cutdown or something.
And honestly I I don't thinkit's worth cutting it down.
I think it's worth for our, ourcommunity, to hear the whole
(54:12):
thing.
And there's um the way thedirection of the interview goes.
So I'm excited about it.
So, um, we've, we've.
You know we had jimmy and daveon from padre cycling in and
then we didn't edit any of thateither so you know, no, know, no
, no, no.
And so now, shane, you knowwe'll be, we'll be next, and the
direction of those guys aregoing in full transparency.
(54:32):
I had to thank Franklin forthat, because Franklin Johnson
told me to reach out to him andthought it would be a good
interview.
So, franklin, thank you so much.
And so Franklin, next episodetwo, much, um.
And so franklin, next episodetwo weeks, buddy, two weeks, uh,
because of you so, um, I'm gladyou mentioned that.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
Thank you so much.
Yep, uh, and I think that'sprobably all I've had, so I
think that's it.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
I mean I'm going to give the.
Obviously our, our guests andour leisure community want the
next listener spotlight.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
All right, well, I've got a good one.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (55:09):
Okay, this community was named for a Confederate
general.
The railroad laid this city outin the late 1800s but it was
not incorporated until the early1900s.
The railroad was built throughthe area in the 1880s and really
(55:32):
helped spur on the developmentof the community.
The first industry was lumberup until World War II and then
really beginning somewhere, thebeginning middle of World War II
cotton became the major sourceof industry in the area.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
I almost said St Louis, but once you mentioned
cotton, not St Louis, yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
Not St Louis, probably not St Louis.
You mentioned cotton.
Yeah, not st louis.
Probably probably not st louis.
Uh, in the 21st century, thistown was devastated by a tornado
, heavily devastated.
We're not talking justtouchdown, we're talking major
devastation.
My final clue will be that thistown was affected by a major
earthquake in 1911.
(56:25):
Major earthquake in 1911.
And if you understand majorearthquakes in that year, around
that time frame, that willcertainly limit your area.
The final thing I'll say isthat this is not the smallest
(56:52):
community we have highlighted,but it is awful close.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
Okay, well, all right , I was just trying to think
real quick.
A small community, because Iget the same data as you.
I just was looking.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
All right, well, you got some time to think about
that one.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
So I must thank Alex, dennis and Scott.
They are our monthlysubscribers and, by the way,
scott, it did not go unnoticedthat you have increased your
contribution.
So, scott, I want to thank youand your wife.
Thank you, you and your wife.
I have tried this this whole,this whole interview, not to
(57:46):
tell Michael that not one personhas said called out sick.
Everyone has written me andsaid it's called in sick.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
I have done some research now and both are
grammatically correct, orcorrect According to the English
language.
What I've also found out.
It tends to be a regional thing.
Speaker 2 (58:06):
Okay, that makes sense.
That makes sense Because ifit's one area, if somebody does
it for their Calling out tendsto be in the Northeast.
Northeast.
Speaker 3 (58:19):
Yes, okay, the Northeast, you know, vermont,
maine, new York, those type ofareas.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
Which makes sense because you spent some time in
that area.
So that makes logical sensethat you would say that from
having that.
And, by the way, then thegovernor signed it on February
21st, so it was going to becontroversial.
(58:48):
They were going to push it backand then so now, if you live in
the state of Michigan, every 30hours you work, you get one
hour sick time, unless you have10 employees or less, and then
there's a little bit of adifference.
But so I think that they haveto provide 40 hours to their
employees at that time.
But if you have 10 or more Iguess 11 more employees, then
(59:12):
it's every 30 hours work, nomatter if you're temporary, part
time, whatever you get.
But they also adjusted the wagefor waiters and waitresses,
where in the state of Michiganyou used to be like $ dollars
and seventy five cents an hour.
You worked off of tips, and sothey've increased that wage.
And then I think there's amixed reaction now.
To be honest, I was never awaiter.
(59:33):
um, I wasn't a waitress either,but I'm just they call them
servers now, but servers okay Iwas never a server, um, but I
think there's a mixed reaction,because now what people are
concerned about is the generalpublic will think, hey, these
guys are making more money, Idon't have to tip them as much,
and so I think there's a there'sa mixed reaction of whether
(59:55):
people like this law or not.
But, um, when you and I werediscussing the law, it wasn't an
argument.
I just said call it, call it.
I mean I've never.
I said I said you know,management, I never call in sick
anyway.
And you said you mean call outsick.
And I was like, um, I mean,yeah, I say call, and that's how
it started.
So it wasn't an argument.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
But no, uh, the good news is, if you're in Michigan
or any other state, you can callout sick.
That's all I'm saying.
You can call out sick.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
You don't have to call in sick, you can call out
sick Is it like calling out,like a, like I'm calling out
sick, I was like I'm going tocall it.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
I'm calling comma out sick.
Thank you very much.
Goodbye.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Well, if you pay attention to our social and I
know you do uh, unfortunately,on that one you haven't won but
these are probably the samepeople who wear toBrems and eat
ketchup or don't eat ketchup ontheir hot dogs.
Wow, okay, now you jumped mebecause I insulted some of our
listeners in Ohio.
(01:00:52):
You literally just took a corebasis of our no, there's nothing
wrong with them?
Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
I'm just saying there's this group of people who
probably fit within that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
To be fair for all of the Ohioio listeners, it's a
rivalry, it's a joke, um.
But I want to thank scott andsue, not only for his increased
contribution, but I reallyappreciate the camaraderie and
the funny pictures and stravaabout.
They're riding in georgia andthey stopped at a hot dog stand
(01:01:24):
and and Scott threw his wifeunder the bus and said look what
she put on her hot dog.
And so it was.
She definitely had a.
He took some pictures and herhot dog is loaded with ketchup
and uh.
And you said to him if you wanta salad on your hot dog?
Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
No, I just, you know, there's a thing you know.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
I, it's, it's.
Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
I'm right.
I'm sorry You're not.
Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
I don't hold it against you or anything but uh
yeah, I'm so happy to have mytoys back.
Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
So, uh, uh, listen, I'm going to call out sick
tomorrow.
I'm going to eat ketchup on myhot dog and I'm not wearing a
DeBrim.
How about that?
What's?
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
your boss's name I'm just kidding.
Listen.
I appreciate the jokes and thehumor and the banter.
I appreciate all of you who arenot only watching but listening
and taking the time to write us, and if you have any questions
about anything, let us know.
Until next time again here inMichigan, I can tell you what it
(01:02:28):
wasn't today A great day toride a bicycle, that's true, but
it was somewhere.
And we promised each other thatwe were going to remind our
listeners something, and wefailed on the last show.
Ladies and gentlemen, on behalfof Michael and myself, we have
some advice for you.
It is always good to travelwith an extra derailleur hanger
(01:02:54):
Always.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Please do.
We always find people that aresearching for them and can never
find them.
Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
And if you're confused about that, the
derailleur hanger is on the backof the bicycle and holds your
rear gear set.
And if the bicycle falls overand that little piece of metal
that's, oh, about an inch and ahalf, with a special hook on it
that holds your derailleur,which, if you're not familiar,
on your bicycle, that's helpedthe shift in the back, from the
little gear to the big gear.
In the back you can find allkinds of parts, but michael can
(01:03:24):
tell you himself because hetried to get his own.
He has it now, but tell him howhard it is.
Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Yeah, every bike company has a different style
and a lot of models within thesame one have different styles
and arrangements.
Of this derailleur, I went tomy local bicycle shop and had a
very difficult time finding itand finally my bicycle shop sent
me online to find it.
(01:03:51):
Yeah, and this is a majorbicycle.
I won't get into names oranything, but it's a major
bicycle it's not correct you'reright, it's not correct.
But it's a major bicycle uhcompany and they do servicing
and all that.
They weren't even able to getme one.
So, needless to say, we've bothseen it.
Adam, you're out on a ride andthat breaks, and we have seen
(01:04:12):
more than once people likehitting even in, like rag bra,
hitting all the mechanics andnone of the mechanics had one
that would fit their bike andthey're sending out message
saying does anybody have onethat will fit this and that kind
of thing?
So for you know, $25, $30, Isay, get one.
They're little, they're notvery big, stick it in your bike
(01:04:34):
and you've got one.
So just in case that breaks,you can take it to the mechanic
and say I brought my own.
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
And I will leave with this, in rag bride 2024, you
and I stayed home we did not goto rag by that year because we
did shoreline we were watchingthe social media from rag bribe
as they took off, and that woman, um, literally you and I had
(01:05:02):
just done a show the day beforeabout traveling with your
bicycle and then we said if shewould just listen to our, our
show, because she was desperateto find a derailleur.
She said, please, I don't wantmy ride to end.
Does anyone have one?
I'm like, well, if you wouldhave just listened to us.
So, but uh, yes.
So before you're doing anymajor trip, before any traveling
, before any big ride, uh, go toyour local bike shop, support,
(01:05:24):
support, local, and findyourself an extra derailleur
hanger.
On that note, sir, it's alwayswonderful to be with you.
Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Thank you Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Have a good day you too.
Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Thank you for coming along with Adam and Michael on
Road Adventures with Cycling Menof Leisure.
If you have enjoyed this,please subscribe to the show on
the podcast app of your choice.
Well, it's time for Road Adventures with Cycling Men
of Leisure, the podcast forcyclists who understand that
riding is not just about gettingto the destination, but the
experience along the way.
Now here are the originalCycling Men of Leisure Adam and
Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Welcome to Road Adventures of Cycling Men of
Leisure.
As usual, I am Adam and I amonce again happy to be joined
with my good friend all the wayacross the country, virtually.
And happy, I hope, mr MichaelSharp, I'm always happy, adam.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Welcome, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Good, good, good, I wouldn't say clear across the
country Well, you're not here inmy town.
We're like two states away.
Three states, three states, yeah, three states.
Well, anyway, a time zone andthree states, three states, yeah
, three states.
Well, anyway, a time zone andthree states.
Well, hey, I've heard from ourleisure community a little bit,
(01:13):
so you care if I start with that.
Go ahead and start with that.
What do we got?
Andrew Thrill wrote yourselfand myself after we announced
that we were going to rain.
We're not going to make it rain, matter of fact, we're probably
going to be slow, but we aregoing to ride the rain ride, our
third event for cycling men ofleisure, although that doesn't
(01:35):
seem very leisurely to ride 160miles in one day, but we're
going to we're going to make itleisurely, though that's going
to be the beauty of it.
That's right.
Andrew was curious if we'd everdone ODRAM, and then he said
oops, I didn't listen to theshow long enough.
He said let me correct that.
Could you tell me a little bitabout ODRAM?
There we go, and so I was ableto go back to my Strava look
(01:57):
like my computer, which I knowevery computer is different.
So it doesn't mean mine's right, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not that
kind of guy that goes mine'sthe only one, that's right.
You could have three people andhave different elevation each
one we have had that's for sure.
But my computer read 1721 feetof climb.
If no one's ever done odram,you get all the elevation in the
morning, it's almost like apeak, and then you come back
(02:19):
down the rest of the day.
It's all downhill after thehalf the, but we were able to
reach out to him.
So, andrew, if that's somethingyou sign up for, myself and
Michael and our friend Joe hasdone it three times I mean two
times, I'm sorry.
And then our friend Aaron theSpeedy Sloth Look at Speedy
(02:40):
Sloth's cycling photos.
He joined us and he killed itthat day.
Robert Engstrom wrote us aboutthe Bragg jersey for this year.
He asked if it was going to bethe same as last year and the
answer is no.
No, it's not Our first yearthat we had a team was like a
(03:04):
maroon with a pretty basic, andthen last year we were able to
get a guy, a designer, who didan amazing job and we are
working behind the scenes tohave another amazing jersey.
So hopefully the team wraps upafter hey, this show comes out.
After the team wraps up, that'sokay.
We'll have final numbers, we'llhave the final.
(03:24):
That's right.
But yes to Robert and to allwho are curious, it will be a
different jersey and, with themen's team and the ladies team,
we will uniform them, make themalike, but different for ladies,
different for men, differentfor ladies, different for men.
And our friend Jim Jim Russell,who we've ridden Brag with many
(03:51):
times, oh yeah, he asked if hecan get his cross-country ride
together, if we would be willingto interview him, and the
answer is yes, oh yeah.
Absolutely, we would love tohave you on, and he made a
mention that he's between twoteams, and so I hope he selected
Cycling Men of Leisure myself.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It'd be nice, but you know what he's doing the team
thing, so that's cool, that'sright.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You know what?
This is a very small episode,although, to be fair, once again
I am traveling across thecountry and this show is being
recorded very early, so we hatedoing that, but we also don't
want to make all of our leisurecommunity wait.
And so, because I'mlollygagging on a cruise ship,
which we're going to get to alittle bit later on in the show,
(04:40):
because I have some questionsfor you, if you don't mind, okay
, all right, that's all I got.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
All right.
Well, I've got a couple ofthings Okay, so let me start off
with see if this is going towork for me.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Right now I have an M in the center of my screen for
everybody who is on YouTube.
I'm assuming M stands forMichael, although I could think
of a lot of funny M words.
Oh, there we go, hey.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Now I'm going to turn this around.
I don't know how good this isgoing to be, Okay.
I can't switch to other cameras.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Ooh, look at that behind you.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But if we get it just right here, for the people that
are watching.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
This is the project that I spoke of several times.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I took the old closet that was here, ripped it all
out, put framework behind it,put paneling up and then set
shelves Nice, and I've got someof my decanters that I've
collected.
I've got some of my bar inshelves Nice, and I've got some
of my decanters that I'vecollected.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I've got some of my bar in here.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Nice.
And what I find even cooler isI've had room to display three
of you know what I would say aresome of my most interesting
jerseys.
I've got our last year'sCycling Men of Leisure yeah,
From Bragg there.
Yeah, I got our old team sherpajersey when we were putting like
(06:06):
the stock quotes and things onthem from from rag braai yeah
yeah, yeah and then I've gotbourbon country burn and if
you'll notice up at the top likeright there you see those
ribbons those are the wristbandsfrom every year that I
participated in those rides oh,that's cool.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So the wristband on the cycling man of leisure,
those brag, brag, those are brag, these are rag bra in the
middle.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And then I've got a bourbon country burn here and
then, if you look right therewhere you see those two metals
hanging down, those are the oldRam.
Those are the old Ram metals.
So and then I just got boxes atthe bottom that stores my other
stuff.
But that is what I've beenworking on.
I finally got it all done.
I've got lighting in there,nice.
I was very happy with it.
So I thought, benz I talkedabout it a couple of times that
(06:52):
I would let everybody see it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Leave that screen up for a second.
I'm going to share my ODRAMmetal story.
I know I've told it before, butI think it's worth retelling
(07:15):
because that was told many moonsago and, depending on how far
back people go on episodes.
So in 2021, you and I completedOdeRam together, one of our
adventures together.
The next day I was flying outironically for wife and I got
back and they not only give youa medal, but the t-shirt is also
an item that they give you or Ibought.
I don't want to lie, I don'tknow if they give you, but I had
a t-shirt.
How about that?
(07:36):
And I said to my wife and ofcourse, marriage is always
screaming what from the otherroom, right, I mean, you know,
upstairs, downstairs?
And I said you know, I thinkI'm going to wear this on the
plane tomorrow.
And she said you're going towear that on the plane tomorrow?
And I said yeah, I mean it's165 miles in one day.
(08:00):
I'm proud of it.
She said, yeah, but you're anadult.
I mean you don't need to bewearing that on the airplane, I
love it.
And I said what are you talkingabout?
And we have this likedisagreement.
Now we're going to take offthat afternoon to go, literally
go to the airport.
(08:20):
And she says I just can'tbelieve you're going to wear
that on the airplane.
She's like are you even goinggonna be able to get through tsa
on it with it?
And I'm like what are youtalking about?
I go, it's a t-shirt.
And she said, oh, she said Ithought you were gonna wear the
metal on the airplane.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Oh, my goodness hey, everyone look at me that's right
I could just see you walking,walking through the, uh, the
airport, yeah, yeah, uh,sporting this, this metal right
here.
And I could just see youwalking through the airport
sporting this medal right here.
And I could even see you goinglook.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I rode.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
O-Tram 165 miles.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So for those of you who are not on YouTube and not
watching, it is in the shape ofa hand.
Of course you've probably seenpeople reminisce Michigan as the
hand.
And then there's a line acrossof where the route was, and so
it goes from Rothbury, Michigan,to Bay city.
You stay at the double J ranch,you go.
Our first year we didn't go outto the, go out to Lake Michigan
(09:17):
first, but then our second timewe did it.
We did go to Lake Michigan allthe way to Bay city in one day.
So, and a little side note forthose of you who know that I
tout my de brim over and overand over, I have a confession.
I hope you're sitting down.
I hope you got rid of it.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yay and the peasants rejoice.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
No, no, no, I did get rid of it on that ride and you
know this already.
We were about 145 miles in thewind took it off my head.
I was so exhausted and michaelsaid you gonna go back for it.
I said forget it, I don't care.
And he's like you, sure I saidforget it, let's just keep going
.
I don't want to stop, but I was.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I was willing to go back with you, though let's you
were that in the story?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
yes, you were, you were absolutely.
I mean, you were actually.
Not only, not only were youwilling, you were kind of, you
were trying to be supportive.
Come on, man, go back and getit.
You know you want I'm like I'lljust buy another one.
I was so exhausted and and thenall of a sudden we get to the
end and we take our pictures anda guy comes up and goes is this
yours?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I was yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And since then I would definitely go back for it
now.
But uh, yes, I just wanted toshare that story.
I like your presentation.
That's nice yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I was.
I was really happy, uh, becausethere's two more shelves there
that have like my books andstuff on it.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I thought what if I could take and frame a couple of
jerseys and put them up there?
That would look really cool.
And it came out really nice.
And if you look at like thebottoms of the frames, like on
the middle one, you see all thedifferent rag brai, uh luggage
tags that we have on the brag.
I've got the key chains and theluggage uh nice, you know the
luggage things.
And then on my one from bourbon, from Bourbon Country Burn,
(11:04):
I've got our numbers and Iactually even threw in the
Buffalo Trace visitor wristthing and so I thought you know
what, that would be a nice wayto showcase that.
So I was pretty excited when Ifinally got it done.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I love it all except for the Nebraska Cornhuskers,
but we're going to leave thatalone.
I mean, I know that's where youwent to school and I see the
bottle of.
Blanton's there.
Yeah, there's a, it's in thecenter, I like that.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Bottle of Blantons and got several things up there.
So that is the extension of myCollection.
My bar, no.
My bar in the other room, so nono, no, no, it's not a
collection.
It's not a collection because Iwill go up there and drink any.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Okay, I like it, man.
What are the wooden boxes below?
Are those those are?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
just miscellaneous wooden boxes I have.
There's an old militaryfootlocker and an ammunition box
, some old wine boxes, thingslike that that.
I've just got some of my othercollections that do not fit on
my shelves over here, so I justhave them organized down there.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
If I am Scott Garwick or I am Armando, who I know for
a fact, both of those gentlemenprefer to watch us on the show.
Will I be seeing this as abackground, or will I be seeing
the cameras as a background?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Well, I've got another camera that I can't
switch to right now becausewe're in the middle of recording
Okay, because I haven't got theswitcher put together yet but
with that camera you'll be ableto see this and my camera
collection over here, I think.
So you'll get like some of thisand my cameras in the
background, so that's my goal.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
You mean like this if I switch here.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Or here.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
But see, I can't do that with what I've got going on
right now.
As a as a genuine friend, as asa as a genuine michigander, I
gave you a video switcher, andso that'll be.
We can get that set up for you.
I just need to get it set up soI'll help you.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's all right so then I could, you know, have
that and have this, but with theone camera, without the
switcher, I'll be able to getthe cameras in the background,
the decanters, my bar and myjersey.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
So then you can do this or you can have two.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Oh, there you go.
Yeah, they need two of me.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
No, they don't need two of me either.
That's why I switched it backpretty fast.
So well, that's cool, man.
I really like your project.
I like how it came together.
It looks classy, it definitelylooks nice.
And let's talk about just for asecond, the center.
We definitely kept the namestrong because, as we've talked
about, we've we've finited ourpacking, but in the beginning,
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we definitely kept the sherpaproud.
We needed a sherpa with all thestuff oh yeah, with all the
stuff I brought um, and youtalked about the stock symbols
and because we no one knows, ourfriendship started that day
(14:02):
that you helped me in 2016, atrag braRAI, when I didn't think
I was going to make my journeyof my first century.
You were just picking things totalk about and you said what
are you into, or whatever.
And just out of a randomquestion, you said are you into
investing at all?
And I said yeah, and that'spretty much what finished our
(14:23):
ride.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Talk about that.
Yeah, for like the last 50miles or something that was
pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And then, uh, um, although hold on to your, okay,
never mind, this is differentplace, different show, but um,
but what we did we did is wewere designing our own jerseys
before we, before we, we hadsome help designing it, and so
we went to a company and we,there's, there's three stocks
that we always talk about.
(14:49):
Dollar general is is a longtime running joke, although,
yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
We've already talked about that one on past shows.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And then Starbucks is because I'm a Starbucks junkie.
And then let's see, oh, casey's.
Casey's which, by the way, Iwould like to officially thank
your wife, and I'm going to tellyou why.
We were on our way.
The first time I came to visityour family, we were on our way
(15:22):
to a restaurant in Missouri Tobe fair, you live in Kansas but
there was a restaurant acrossthe border and on the way there
she said I wonder if Casey'swould be a good thing to invest
in.
And so, just for blanks andgiggles oh, I got my button back
, just for and giggles.
I started throwing some money.
(15:43):
Let me just say I need to thankyour wife right here officially
.
It's been a phenomenalinvestment.
So thank you, chasity, Iappreciate that.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
She occasionally gets lucky every once in a while,
but I've got some too.
It's done well for me, so Ican't complain.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
No, I like it.
I like your background, nicejob, thank you.
Oh, I like it.
I like your background, nicejob, thank you.
Well, with that being said,should we move into what
everyone looks forward to andguesses?
Let's do it.
The listener spotlight.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Are we ready?
I'm ready.
All right, here we go.
The area was initially exploredby a French-Canadian trapper.
It was founded in the mid-1850s.
Okay, the area where the townis located had no permanent
(16:38):
Native American settlers whenthe Europeans arrived.
The first settlement wascreated by a religious group.
Irrigation was the earlysettlers' first big job, so that
ought to give you some hints.
And remember that bus driversare required to stop and open
(17:02):
the door to check for trains.
This town has something to dowith that.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Any guesses?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I am intrigued.
I had actually told you off therecord that I thought it was
something to do with New Mexico.
I went back to my trainer andasked her, because we have a
video where the buses are and,yeah, I don't think they ever
they don't ever make a mention.
I just think the background ofthe video images I must have
(17:32):
like one of those things whereyou remember something from
something Based upon how theyshot the video and where they
shot the video.
That's where I got the NewMexico, so I don't think it's
New Mexico.
I don't have a guess.
Okay, Well, it got the NewMexico, so I don't think it's
New Mexico.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I don't have a guess.
Okay, well, it's not New Mexico.
It's close, very close.
The listener spotlightcommunity for this episode is
South Jordan, utah.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Oh, okay, south Jordan.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yep, founded in the 1850s by a French-Canadian
trapper with the last name ofProvost.
The first settlement wascreated by a religious group,
which was the Church of JesusChrist of Latter-day Saints.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Obviously, being in Utah, irrigation was their first
major job that they had to workon before they could really
have, you know, any kind offarming or stuff there.
And that bus driver requirementas far as opening the door,
that's because on December 1stof 1938, there was the worst bus
(18:38):
crash in the US history.
There, you know, a train hit abus and it led to the federal
law which mandates that buses doare required to stop and check.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yes, for sure, and I told you I think it was not
recording that it's confusingfor some of my drivers because
we have multiple modes oftransportation.
We have minivans, we have whatthey call a transit van, which
is like if you've watchedAmerican Pickers, that size
vehicle where they drove aroundand you know, got that those
(19:14):
don't have to stop, but it'sdefinitely if it is, if it is
designated as a bus, as thetransportation expert on this
show.
Yes, sir, must stop.
Funny story about that.
And then we will.
We will go back.
So I had my grandfather when hewas still alive.
He made it to one week shy 99.
So what a life.
I was on the phone and and Iused to drive the bus, but I had
(19:38):
him in the car and I was takinghim to an appointment and I got
to the tracks and, just becauseof memory, I was in a minivan
and I stopped at the tracks andhe goes waiting for a train.
I said no, I you know what.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Just making sure one's not coming, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's right.
But um well, listen um.
I really appreciate all of ourlisteners.
Utah huh Nice.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
South Jordan, utah.
Population 77,487.
So thank you for listening fromSouth Jordan, Utah.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, that's amazing.
I did miss one, and I justrealized it, from our listener
community.
Keith and Melanie said thattheir son lives in Wyoming and
if he doesn't listen in May,Michael, they are going to visit
him.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Will I get my Wyoming listener?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Keith says that you're going to get in May.
Now, if you don't know this,keith and Melanie, my DeBrim
fellow friends he's been— Trynot to hold that against him.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Hey.
They're good people.
He is retrofitting a van aslike a you know van life or
(21:01):
maybe a van vacation, vacationvan.
He's putting cabinetry and bedsand sinks and they're
retrofitting.
So I think that might be one oftheir van trips out to Wyoming.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
So they're, they're creating a Euro van, so to speak
.
You know, like that's what I,that's what they kind of call it
in Europe, a Euro van.
I mean, it's got, you know likeyou live in it, you know it's
got places to sleep and it's got, you know, a small little
kitchen area in there and thingslike that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, and the bikes are on there.
I think they're looking totravel with it.
But in May, which is about twomonths away, you're going to get
your Wyoming list.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Oh, finally, wyoming has just vexed me.
It's like come on, somebody inWyoming rides bikes.
You want to listen.
But oh well, we'll get theresometime.
But I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
So you're driving the show today?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
buddy, you said you had some things about I wanted
to bring up.
I know our community has heardus talk several times that we've
spent a week or two in Floridathis year golfing me, working
you, golfing us both, golfing useating and us having some
(22:17):
drinks and I thought it might beinteresting.
We came across some veryinteresting drinks.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We did.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
And I thought we'd talk a little bit about that.
Um, lots of flames wereinvolved in some of these drinks
, so that was kind of cool.
So, uh, the first one on mylist I thought we'd talk about
is, uh, your burnt orange.
Yes, we're from.
Uh, I think it was uh calledblue, called Blue Zoo.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Todd English's Blue Zoo.
Okay.
And that's in the Swan and Swan, and I think it was in the
Dolphin Resort, but it couldhave been the Swan Resort.
I could look it up.
Okay, dolphin.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Well, they're both together there.
But yeah, swans in front,dolphins in the back, but it's
in the first floor of that.
Neither of us had ever eatenthere before, but they had a
drink called a burnt orange thatyou partook in.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It was.
It was a tequila-based drinkand it was what intrigued me is
it said it comes to you on fireand I was like, well, I mean,
what could go wrong with settingsomething on fire?
I'm all in baby, carting itthrough a dining room hey, why
not?
And definitely came to thetable on fire.
(23:31):
I think it was a candied orangewith a little liqueur on top.
That's why they were able toset it on fire.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, what it had is.
It had silver tequila infusedwith oranges, and they had
combined that with guava, grandMarnier orange juice and then
they topped it with that flamingorange.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Okay, so it comes to you and they set it in front of
you and this orange is likeproducing flame it in front of
you and this orange is likeproducing flame, and at first I
thought that the flame was justgoing to be like the, you know,
like the get it, get yourmarketing to get you to buy it.
But I will tell you that afterthe flame went out, it actually
(24:17):
helped add.
It add a very distinct flavorto the cocktail, and so not only
was it neat to have somethingcome to your table on fire which
is that's always fun, um but itactually, it gave it a distinct
flavor, and so it was, it was avery enjoyable cocktail, oh,
cool.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
No, it looked very fun.
Uh, I'm glad that the flamingorange actually added something
to it and wasn't just, uh, forpresentation purposes, that's
kind of neat as well.
The food was very good there, soI was very happy and that I got
to say he came around which I'msurprised you didn't hop in
with this story.
But he came around and was like, would you guys like dessert?
(24:56):
And he gave us.
I said, sure, let's see whatyou got.
And none of it looked very good.
But a little girl behind us hadbeen had this big old thing of
ice cream and I was like, do youhave any ice cream?
And it's like, yeah, we've gotsome ice cream on the kids menu.
And I was like, bring me that.
Well, what I didn't realize, itwasn't just like a bowl of ice
cream.
It had like an ice cream conestuck in and it like looked like
(25:17):
I don't know a unicorn orsomething and it had all these.
Like when you busted into thecone there was all this candy
that flooded out.
I just wanted the ice cream,but I wound up buying the
dessert off the kids menu and itwas quite humorous when it came
to my table.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
You had a dessert and a pinata all mixed in one.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
It was.
Yeah, it was interesting.
And there was a family with twokids sitting next to me and
both those kids were likelooking at me, and I think the
parents were kind of like, Hmm,what's wrong with this guy.
But the other desserts none ofthem look that good and I was
feeling like ice cream, so I gotice cream.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I was hoping that they would think that you were
special and we'd get a discount,but we didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Not special in any kind of way that matters.
Let me tell you no, no, Okay,so we had that one.
The other one that was reallycool, I thought, was from the
Delilah Lounge, which we've botheaten at.
It's right next to the what isit?
Topolino's.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Toledo, toledo.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
The Toledo Bar.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Which is at the top restaurant, at the top of the
Coronado.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Springs Tower.
There you go At Disney WorldToledo, the Toledo bar, right
next to Toledo, which is at thetop restaurant, at the top of
the Coronado Springs Tower.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
There you go At Disney World and there's a
lounge right outside and we werewaiting for our table and so
they give you a list.
It's really quite cool and youget to choose your whiskey, your
simple syrup and your bitter.
And they've got, you know, fromlike the whiskeys, you get
Elijah Craig, bullet or BuffaloTrace or Jim Bean Black, things
(26:50):
like that Maker's Mark, and thenyou get to choose your simple
syrups.
So is there anything from justlike regular simple syrup, the
classic, to maple, orange,saffron, blueberry or vanilla,
and then you even get to go farenough to get your bitters.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Well, you can't go wrong with bitters.
The interesting thing aboutthat is Armando was with us.
Armando came out to join usthat night and he was
participating in Dry January,and so I normally wouldn't sell
him out, but I kept making jokes.
(27:29):
I'm like, well, what about dryvermouth?
What about a dry wine?
What about?
And he stood strong and so hedid not participate in the
create your own old-fashioned.
Now I am disappointed in myselection.
Not that it wasn't good.
I chose the orange saffron.
I was on a kick of like orangebitter drinks and so cocktails
(27:54):
that you would use orangebitters, and so I was like, oh
man, that's amazing, I'm goingto get the orange bitters.
And then I think the simplesyrup was.
There was an orange simplesyrup, and so I actually I got
both of those and, to be honest,it was just my choosing.
It's my own fault, but it wasjust my choosing.
(28:14):
It's my own fault, but it wastoo sweet.
It wasn't like an old fashioned, it was more like a, I don't
know, like an orange juice.
Orange juice loaded orangejuice is the best way I can say
it.
So I would definitely do itdifferent, but the fact that you
could choose your own waspretty cool.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I think my simple syrup was the blueberry and I
chose the Mexican chocolate onmy bitters because they had,
like regular bitters, orangebitters, smoked chili which
would have been interestingMexican chocolate and apple
blossom.
So mine was interesting becauseI kind of had that blueberry
and then I had the chocolateyflavor.
So, yeah, it was a good drink.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Which reminds me and I hope I'm not, since we didn't
talk about this before recordingwhen was it that we have a
tobacco bitters drink?
Was that?
Was that Toledo?
I mean Edison?
No, oh, that was.
Oh, you know where that was?
That was the basement speakeasywhat's yeah and enzos or enzos,
(29:21):
yeah, yeah and enzos.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, they had an old-fashioned that had a tobacco
bitters yeah which was, youcould taste a little bit of that
tobacco-y flavor, which wasvery, very good, I thought.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
What's funny is we totally screwed up that night.
I mean, can you really screw upby having cocktails?
Probably not.
But we went to Enzo's and westarted there and we had this
delicious, old-fashioned, I meanit was like it was a classy,
(29:53):
classy cocktail.
And then, because it was whatdo you call it?
Uh, between three and six happyhour because, it was happy hour
.
We went over to edison uh atdisney springs and they had a
four roses, old-fashioned.
It was like eight bucks.
I'm like eight bucks, I'm gonnahave that, because where else
can you get a cocktail at disneyworld $8?
For $8.
But because we had had such thehigh-end cocktail, we went.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
We went the wrong way ?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, we went the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
For sure, you need to start with the cheap cocktail
and then go to the higher end,that's right.
Oh well.
Yeah, it was still good.
But you mentioned the Edison.
I'd like to talk a little bitabout that.
The Edisonison, if you've neverbeen there, is very 1920s.
Uh, steamer punk, um, they playin the background.
(30:38):
They're playing like uh, 1920s.
Basically you're playing modernmusic done to like a 1920s
swing.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
so they'll have like modern songs in the 1920s swing
uh version, or you know yeah,it's like going to a wedding and
and then you know the, the djplays piano versions of like
acdc.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Back in black, exactly same thing um, and it's
kind of got a steamer, punk,industrial.
Look, it's really fun.
Uh, you and I have been theredozens of times, um, but they've
got some really good.
They do a really good smoked,old-fashioned.
One of the really interestingdrinks are things that you can
do there.
Uh is their whistle pig flight.
You can do, uh, a flight ofwhistle pig which has a 6, the
(31:25):
10 and the 12 year on there, sothat's kind of interesting.
But uh, they, what I reallylike and I didn't know it until
this time around, cause we saw aguy and we asked him about it
is they have a secret drinkprogram and uh, it's called high
rollers cocktails and thesecocktails are in the book but
they're always in the back and Inever had gotten to that.
(31:46):
Uh, they're expensive, but uh,every single one that you get,
you get a coin, but every singleone that you get.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
you get a coin.
Oh God, here we go.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Just because, according to the Edison, I am in
fact, ladies and gentlemen, ifyou can see it, if you're
watching us right here, courtneythe Edison, I am a high roller.
Yes, it says it right there,back of the coin high roller no
you're jealous.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
You're jealous, so you know I think it's pretty
cool and and the concept is isis each one of those cocktails
you get, you get the high rollercoin.
Now, if you get one, you couldhave it as a collector piece and
little souvenir knick-knack,paddywhack.
But if you get four of those,four of those high roller coins
right there, my friend, then youcould trade it for one of the
(32:37):
high roller drinks, that's right.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
So I went ahead and splurged and got a high roller
drink.
I keep my high roller coinright up there to remind Adam
that he is not, according to theEdison, a high roller, but
that's okay.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Do you ever like?
Bust that out.
Bust that out when yourdaughter comes in.
I am a high roller.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
You know I'm thinking about putting a hole through it
and sticking it right here onmy necklace, so it's like look
right here, high roller.
I might just do that.
But they had a number ofdifferent drinks and they were
very interesting, but they hadone that I had to try and it was
called Fire in Vermont andliterally they light the bar on
fire.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
And what this has is?
It says Whistlepig 10-year ryein it, it's got vermouth, it's
got cherry brandy, it's gotBogart's bitters, and then it's
got flame kissed.
Uh, flame kissed, caramelizedabsinthe wash and uh, they bring
it out and there's this wholepresentation and the bar's
(33:42):
flaming and all this kind ofstuff.
So I had been looking at it andfinally I was like you know
what I'm doing it?
So I uh, I don't remember whatour, what our waitress or what
our server's name was, but Ilike tell you what I said let's
burn the bar.
And so she got all the stuffand lit it up and of course,
(34:03):
everybody's gathering aroundwatching, you know, the flames
come off the bar and things likethat.
So it was a really fun drink,really interesting program, and
I just wanted to share it witheverybody that we had a good
time.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
It must be fun for those bartenders to make those
cocktails, because when you weretalking about it, she overheard
us talking and she said if youorder it, let me make it.
And I think they must enjoydoing that because there's a
brass tray.
If you go there, you'll see it,but there's a brass tray.
Copper there, you'll see it,but there's a brass tray copper
oh, thank you, yep copper.
(34:36):
It's about six inch channelwhere they put all the booze are
going to burn in there, um, oris it the absence that they burn
?
I don't know, I can't lie Idon't know, whatever they I
don't know whatever the residualof the and then they put, like,
uh, some sort of salt or sugarin there, so it actually sparks
up even more.
And, yes, you have somephotographs of them lighting it
(34:58):
on fire.
So now I do have a questionabout that.
Yeah, being the history guythat you are, was there some
sort of instrumental fire inVermont that I?
I mean?
Was there anything that cancome to mind?
Why would the drink be calledFire in Vermont?
Any idea with that?
Or?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
That I do not know.
That's an interesting question.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I'm going to search while you're talking.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, I was trying to look at the ingredients to see
if anything here jumped out thatwould be, you know, hooked to
Vermont.
It might have to do with theabsence, but I don't know.
So but that's a good question.
But we encountered a lot ofgreat drinks.
We had a lot of differentflavors, combinations in our old
(35:47):
fashions that we tried, and wetried some other things that
obviously weren't old fashions,but it was definitely,
definitely a leisuringexperience that I wanted to make
sure that we share.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
So nothing that comes up real quick on Google, but
maybe there's something I'mmissing or maybe maybe I will do
some investigation and find outwhy they call it fire in
Vermont.
All else fails.
Hello, thanks for calling theEdison.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I have a really weird question.
Can I speak with your barmanager, please, or someone at
the bar?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Okay, well, I just figured.
You know you usually have a lotof interesting facts about
things that have happened inthis great country and I didn't
know if you knew, so I apologize.
No, it's a good question.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Like I said, I went down through.
I was no, it's, it's a goodquestion.
Like I said, I went downthrough the uh, through what was
in it, thinking that maybe oneof the components was you know
kind of a vermont, uh, you knowproduct or something.
But no, so I will see what Ican find out on that.
All right, uh, enough, talkabout that, let's see what else.
(36:56):
You said something aboutcruises.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, you're going on one.
Yeah, I'm going on one, but Ijust got a question for you and
you and I have never spoke aboutthis and I said you know what?
I'm going to save it for theshow, Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
What do you want to talk about?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
talk about is the sharp family.
When you cruise, do you doexcursions through the cruise
ship or do you like to explore?
When you get to the islands, uh, it seems like like when my
wife and I went on our firstcruise together.
You know, you're planning athome and you're dreaming and
you're like, oh, this cruise is.
You know we're gonna go to Idon't know um, you know we're
going to go to, I don't know, stMartin.
We're going to go to St Martin.
Oh, let's go out to where theplanes land, right near the
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beach.
And then you could, you know,get on a bus and take the
excursion.
And it got me thinking, becausemy wife and I are getting ready
for ours and we're going withmy golf partner of 22 years and
good friend, and so the four ofus are going.
You got me thinking do you guysdo excursions?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
We do do excursions, because I mean, you basically
have three choices for those ofyou that that don't cruise.
You can do an excursion that'ssponsored by the cruise ship,
which they generally have.
You know a dozen or moredifferent things, so you can do
and it's sponsored by the cruiseship, which they generally have
.
You know a dozen or moredifferent things that you can do
, and it's sponsored by thecruise ship, or it's done
through the cruise ship, so it'svery organized.
When you get off the cruiseship, they'll tell you exactly
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where to go, and then peoplecome and meet you and you can do
an excursion on your own.
You can just, you know, do aninternet search, say, oh, that
looks like fun, the cruise shipisn't offering something like
that and do it that way, whichmeans that you have to do a lot
of the legwork.
You have to go through thecompany, do your reservations
and then, when you get there,you have to get to the company
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or wherever they're doing theexcursion from, and things like
that.
Or the third option is you juststay on the boat, and I've
always had a problem.
It's like I'm not the type ofperson that I just want to stay
on the boat.
I mean, you know we can get off, we can see something I've
never seen before.
I want to go explore.
But I know a lot of people whohave maybe been to, you know,
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martinique or Cozumel orwhatever.
Dozens of times are like youknow what.
Let everybody else get off theboat and, uh, we're going to go
hang out down at the poolbecause there's going to be like
nobody there.
We can set right at the bar, wecan get great things like that.
So, uh, there is someadvantages to not doing an
excursion and let everybody elsego out and do their shopping,
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do their excursion, and you geta lot of the boat to yourself or
to a very small group of people.
I've always Sharp Family hasalways done excursions.
We do excursions through theboat and we've got, you know,
some younger people with us.
So it's one of those thingswhere, if you do the excursion
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through the boat generally, youjust get off the boat and
there's somebody there to meetyou and say, hey, everybody,
we're doing this excursion, comeover here, they load you into a
mini bus and then they take youto wherever you're going to do
the excursion.
So it makes it very simple fromthe dad point of view, and me
when I'm looking out for youknow three other people and
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we've done it with her familybefore, where there was even
more it's just easier becauseit's like, okay, we're right
here, let's just follow.
The other advantage to doing theexcursions through the ship is
if, say, you go and you'redelayed some reason, yeah,
there's a big traffic jam orsomething like that, and you're
delayed some reason, you knowthere's a big traffic jam or
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something like that, and you'rethrough the ship, the ship will
make arrangements to wait foryou because it's their excursion
.
Right, if you're on your own,if I'm like I'm going to go out
and see, you know, do goat yogaon the other side of the island
and I don't make it back in time, I can call the ship or
whatever.
But they're going to say well,we sail at this time, there is
no waiting, I'm on my own.
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And if I miss a ship, guesswhat?
I have to make arrangements tomeet the ship at the next port.
Whether it be a boat, a plane,you know, whatever it might be,
that's all on me.
But if I do an excursionthrough them, I don't have that
hassle.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
So that's kind of a peace of mind, you know for me
ever seen those youtube videoswhere people are running down
the running down the dock whatare you talking about?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
I typically, when we do cruises, we get ones that
have balconies, so we can watchpeople so we're, the people out
there on the on the balcony, youknow, sitting there like
screaming at them come on, youcan make it, you can make it.
And they're, like you know,chugging along with, you know,
bags of whatever they've boughtand all this kind of stuff and
they're hustling along becauseyou know this fear is going
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through them.
It's like, oh my God, my boat'sright there.
They could close that door atany time, right, and you know
they're just everybody's linedout on the on the balconies,
yelling it for them and tellthem you can make it.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
And you kind of feel like you're at the Olympics or
something Olympic tryouts.
Come on, you can do it.
Sorry, yeah, I was just curiouswhat you do.
I mean, you and I have nevertalked about that before.
So since we are encompassingall things leisure, I figured I
would save it for the show.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
So what do you do?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I like excursions through the ship.
On this particular boat, thefirst three days are days at sea
.
We're going to take out of FortLauderdale and then we're going
to go to St Kitts as our firstisland and then by the time I
get to St Kitts, I'm going to behappy to get off that boat.
But I know what you're talkingabout.
Some people are like you knowwhat, we're not getting off that
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boat.
But I know what you're talkingabout.
Some people are like you knowwhat, we're not getting off the
boat.
We've been to st kitts 14 timesin the last 18 cruises or
whatever.
And then and then they're goingto be like well, when you're
all off the boat, then we canget the flow rider to ourself
and we can get the rock climbingwall and not have to wait.
I know, I know what you'retalking about, but by the time I
get there, I mean it's not likeevery day I'm going to St Kitts
.
I mean today I went hiking inthe snow.
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So the idea is if I can besomewhere in the Caribbean.
Now they do have certainrecommendations where you
shouldn't stay too far off, likeCozumel.
You mentioned Cozumel.
We're not going to Cozumel onthis trip, but I've been there
and they don't recommend gettingoff the beaten path and they
recommend staying in pairs andstaying together and and and you
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know but.
But I was just curious.
I, I agree with you.
There's a comfort level for methat if I go out and you know, I
go down to the Aqua theater orthe theater and they say, okay,
here's your sticker and you'relooking for bus 12.
And then if bus 12 breaks down,they're going to bring me bus
38 to get me back, so thatthere's a there's a comfort
(43:40):
level for me where I, you know,I, I like saying kids, but I
don't want to stay there.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Well, you know, honestly, there's times that if
it was just me, or maybe myselfand my wife, I would, you know,
maybe consider some otheractivities that weren't directly
there, just because it's likeyou know what, if something
happened and we miss the, missthe ship, um, yeah, it's going
to be a disruption, but we can,we can make it work.
(44:07):
But you know, when you add kidsin there, then you've got that
extra layer of you know they'renot, as you know, accepting of
whatever situation you getthrown into, right.
So, and you know, I mean kidsjust why, are we back on?
the ship, and why do we got towait for this and do you know so
?
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I've got coworkers who truly believe that you're.
You know you could do itcheaper.
Believe that you're.
You know you could do itcheaper and I'm always like you
could.
But now use that.
That.
That St Martin airport, I knowit's a.
I mean, I know it's a huge draw.
You see everyone you know goingwith a 747 is 14 inches off
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your head, you know, by thebeach and where people are
getting stuff blown away becausethe jets, you know, fire up to
take off.
If you take a taxi out thereand there's no taxi to take you
back, I hope you got your creditcard.
Yeah, you're still waiting forthe Uber.
Yeah, your passport andeverything else.
So, yeah, it's an interestingconversation.
I you know we.
(45:10):
What about the drink package?
Are you guys people who get thedrink package when you go?
Speaker 3 (45:15):
if you go on a cruise line that offers it, like I
went on Disney, they didn'toffer a drink package, so they
offered classes where you couldlearn about whiskey and and
taste different things and I andI most of the time, if they
offer, like, a whiskey tastingclass or something like that, I
take it because I enjoy it and Inever know what they're going
to bring to the table, and everytime, typically they find
(45:36):
something that I'm not thatfamiliar with and I can learn
about it.
So I I really enjoy those.
You know, whiskey and tequilaclasses, just to uh, number one,
uh, maybe find something Ididn't know, uh, or it's also
fun because now you're in a roomfull of people who really like
whiskey or interested in whiskey, and you can have some, some
good conversations, um, you know, and you can meet some people
(45:58):
you'll see later, uh, on theship.
So that's always a good time,um, but so I always do that.
As far as the package, I do notthink we've ever done the drink
package.
Now, I know my wife goes oncruises with, like, her
girlfriends and they'll do that,um, but honestly, I mean,
you've really gotta just beserious about drinking to really
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, you know, cause it's there'sthere's so many drinks that they
put in front of you that youcan drink each day and all that
kind of stuff that I'm like.
I, you know, I'm not one ofthose people that I'm just like
completely boozed up.
When I'm on the ship I like, uh, you know, a couple of drinks
throughout the day, but I'm notdrinking that much.
Where the drink package reallyhelps me, a lot of times she
gets it, because if you're in acabin on a lot of ships with
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other people, who gets a drinkpackage, um, I just don't drink
enough for it to really makesense.
And when I do drink, typicallyI'm drinking.
You know I want to have topshelf stuff not to sound like a
snob, but you know I'm wantingto have the, the higher end
(47:07):
stuff.
A lot of times it's notincluded in the drink vacation.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I mean you, you deserve it.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
I mean you work hard, you got a long commute, kidding
Plus there's things on thecruise ship that you can find
that are not easy to find hereat home, and most of the time,
because they've gotten theirallocated liquors and stuff at
such good prices, they're notcharging you some hugely
(47:32):
inflated price for the drinkdrink, so it's generally
relatively affordable, uh, fortheir higher end stuff, and so
that's generally the way I goand plus, you don't drink coffee
, and so I'm not.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I'm not throwing you under the bus, you just don't
know what coffee so yeah and soI'm going on royal and, and
they've kind of pretty much madeit where you either buy some
sort of package what I mean bysome sort of, as they offer like
a soda package, if you wantsoda, they offer, um, a coffee
(48:04):
card if you want so many coffees, and then the drink package,
you can have it all.
And so for us we do do it.
Um, because, um, because, um,not just, it's not just for the
alcohol.
You know, I work out in themorning and and then I can go
get my premium coffee and thenthey give bottles of water and
and so I mean you have to, youhave to work the system to make
sure you're getting your money'sworth.
(48:25):
Sure, I actually have an excelspreadsheet on which I'm sure
you're not surprised that by allat all.
But uh, I've got an excelspreadsheet that says okay, if
you, because I can, the waythose boats work is it's not
just like one price today andthat's it.
They offer so many differentprices between the cruises.
A game you've got to play youcan buy in here, but then, if
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you can find it cheaper, thenyou just call up and keep giving
your money back.
I always find it a way for Royalto make money off my money,
because then eventually it'll becheaper, cheaper, cheaper.
But I've got a thing where it'sjust, if you pay this with the
gratuities and if you get eightpremium coffees and two bottles
of water a day and everythingelse, I mean you really have to
make it work.
Now, saying that, I have somefriends who went on a cruise,
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bought the drink package and,unfortunately, who went on a
cruise, bought the drink packageand unfortunately, like on the
second day, um, they testedpositive for the influenza and
they said they were quarantinedto the room for two, two, three
days.
I'm gonna say three days, maybetwo and a half days.
So those were three days thatthere was no.
First of all they felt likecomplete manierda, but then, uh,
(49:30):
um, there were three days therewhere you were not buying, you
know, getting your coffees,drinks or whatever couldn't, you
, couldn't you do room servicecould have done room service.
Yeah, but I'm I don't think heeven felt like drinking.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Okay, completely down and out, but uh, um, it's, it's
always a gamble yeah, and I andI do think, uh, on some of our
cruises I know like Disney, youget like the free ice cream and
you get free soda and things.
But I think on the othercruises that we've went on, I
think we may have gotten, likethe soda package, yeah, but as
far as the liquor, no.
(50:04):
Although I will say cruises aregreat, especially with kids,
because then it's like one ofthose things.
It's like if Chas and I want togo out and do something later
in the evening, the kids caneasily stay in the cabin by
themselves.
And you've got TV and they'vegot their electronics and all
this kind of stuff.
And the first time we went wesaid hey, you know what, if you
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guys get hungry, you guys cancall room service, because room
service, you know.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Included.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Exactly, and they guys can call room service,
because room serve, you know,included exactly.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
and they were like, I imagine, as a parent.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
It's a, it's a godsend oh yeah, it's like, well
, how does that work?
And we explained we call thisnumber and you can.
You know, here's the menu.
You can order whatever you wantto.
They'll bring it to your thing.
We left them some you know somecash, so it's like you tip them
.
We explained how the tippingthing worked and, oh my, they
thought that was the coolestthing ever.
It's like I could just pick upthe phone and food shows up at
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my door 10 minutes later.
This is awesome.
So the kids you know, a couplenights did not mind hanging out
because you know they could gettheir ice cream or their
hamburgers or what you know,whatever snacks they wanted.
And then I do have to say myson, max, whom you're very
familiar with, loves hamburgers.
That's his thing.
And we went and they had GuyFierro's hamburger place.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
And they ask when you're going through, do you
want a single burger or a doubleburger?
And of course it's all includedin what you've already paid,
right.
And he's like, really, they'regoing to.
And the first time he's like,can I get a double burger?
It's like, well, yeah, my onlyrule is, if you're going to take
it, eat it, right.
(51:42):
So, yeah, if you want a doubleburger, get a double burger.
Oh my God, he thought that wasthe greatest thing.
And so by the end of the weekhe was like eating you know
three burger hamburgers and youknow.
So he just thought that was thegreatest thing.
Acton's diet Just don't eat thebread, just eat young.
You know you can get away withthat, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
I'm just curious.
I figured I would, since we arerecording a little bit early
and the whole purpose is.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
I started thinking about.
Like you know, I never talkedto Michael about that.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
So, yeah, um, one thing I did want to bring up
we've got an exciting interviewcoming up.
We do, we do.
It's, uh, shane Cusick frombike Virginia.
Um, I don't want to give a lotof it away.
Um, we have already recorded it.
It'll be our next show.
Um, all I want to say is shanedid a great job um the
(52:41):
information that he passed onabout he builds bikes for
children and he talked aboutBike Virginia and the direction,
and that's really all I want tosay.
I just wanted to tease that.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Yeah, it's a good interview.
He was a really goodinterviewee.
We talked about his bikecompany, we talked about what
Cycling Virginia is doingbecause they're making some
changes to kind of address thechanges that are going on in the
industry, and it was a reallygood one.
Now it is a little long, I willsay that, but I also have to
(53:12):
remind people that you know,adam and I like to be as organic
as possible and when interviewsgo, we just like to go with it
and we also don't like to editout a bunch of stuff.
And I know a lot of shows arelike edit it because we want the
interview to be 20 minutes, sowe'll edit out a bunch of stuff.
We just like to keep it flowing.
Some people don't like that,but we've got a lot of feedback
(53:34):
from people that just says youknow, I really like it because
you guys are kind of honest andyou're transparent and you're
just very organic and you knowwhat you see is what you get.
So it is going to be a longerepisode but it's got some really
interesting components to it sofull transparency.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
I watched the interview so so I could look at
it again and you know, I thoughtbefore watching it I thought,
well, maybe there might be asegment, since it is long, that
maybe I could maybe omit or cutdown or something.
And honestly I I don't thinkit's worth cutting it down.
I think it's worth for our, ourcommunity, to hear the whole
(54:12):
thing.
And there's um the way thedirection of the interview goes.
So I'm excited about it.
So, um, we've, we've.
You know we had jimmy and daveon from padre cycling in and
then we didn't edit any of thateither so you know, no, know, no
, no, no.
And so now, shane, you knowwe'll be, we'll be next, and the
direction of those guys aregoing in full transparency.
(54:32):
I had to thank Franklin forthat, because Franklin Johnson
told me to reach out to him andthought it would be a good
interview.
So, franklin, thank you so much.
And so Franklin, next episodetwo, much, um.
And so franklin, next episodetwo weeks, buddy, two weeks, uh,
because of you so, um, I'm gladyou mentioned that.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
Thank you so much.
Yep, uh, and I think that'sprobably all I've had, so I
think that's it.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
I mean I'm going to give the.
Obviously our, our guests andour leisure community want the
next listener spotlight.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
All right, well, I've got a good one.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (55:09):
Okay, this community was named for a Confederate
general.
The railroad laid this city outin the late 1800s but it was
not incorporated until the early1900s.
The railroad was built throughthe area in the 1880s and really
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helped spur on the developmentof the community.
The first industry was lumberup until World War II and then
really beginning somewhere, thebeginning middle of World War II
cotton became the major sourceof industry in the area.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
I almost said St Louis, but once you mentioned
cotton, not St Louis, yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
Not St Louis, probably not St Louis.
You mentioned cotton.
Yeah, not st louis.
Probably probably not st louis.
Uh, in the 21st century, thistown was devastated by a tornado
, heavily devastated.
We're not talking justtouchdown, we're talking major
devastation.
My final clue will be that thistown was affected by a major
earthquake in 1911.
(56:25):
Major earthquake in 1911.
And if you understand majorearthquakes in that year, around
that time frame, that willcertainly limit your area.
The final thing I'll say isthat this is not the smallest
(56:52):
community we have highlighted,but it is awful close.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
Okay, well, all right , I was just trying to think
real quick.
A small community, because Iget the same data as you.
I just was looking.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
All right, well, you got some time to think about
that one.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
So I must thank Alex, dennis and Scott.
They are our monthlysubscribers and, by the way,
scott, it did not go unnoticedthat you have increased your
contribution.
So, scott, I want to thank youand your wife.
Thank you, you and your wife.
I have tried this this whole,this whole interview, not to
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tell Michael that not one personhas said called out sick.
Everyone has written me andsaid it's called in sick.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
I have done some research now and both are
grammatically correct, orcorrect According to the English
language.
What I've also found out.
It tends to be a regional thing.
Speaker 2 (58:06):
Okay, that makes sense.
That makes sense Because ifit's one area, if somebody does
it for their Calling out tendsto be in the Northeast.
Northeast.
Speaker 3 (58:19):
Yes, okay, the Northeast, you know, vermont,
maine, new York, those type ofareas.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
Which makes sense because you spent some time in
that area.
So that makes logical sensethat you would say that from
having that.
And, by the way, then thegovernor signed it on February
21st, so it was going to becontroversial.
(58:48):
They were going to push it backand then so now, if you live in
the state of Michigan, every 30hours you work, you get one
hour sick time, unless you have10 employees or less, and then
there's a little bit of adifference.
But so I think that they haveto provide 40 hours to their
employees at that time.
But if you have 10 or more Iguess 11 more employees, then
(59:12):
it's every 30 hours work, nomatter if you're temporary, part
time, whatever you get.
But they also adjusted the wagefor waiters and waitresses,
where in the state of Michiganyou used to be like $ dollars
and seventy five cents an hour.
You worked off of tips, and sothey've increased that wage.
And then I think there's amixed reaction now.
To be honest, I was never awaiter.
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um, I wasn't a waitress either,but I'm just they call them
servers now, but servers okay Iwas never a server, um, but I
think there's a mixed reaction,because now what people are
concerned about is the generalpublic will think, hey, these
guys are making more money, Idon't have to tip them as much,
and so I think there's a there'sa mixed reaction of whether
(59:55):
people like this law or not.
But, um, when you and I werediscussing the law, it wasn't an
argument.
I just said call it, call it.
I mean I've never.
I said I said you know,management, I never call in sick
anyway.
And you said you mean call outsick.
And I was like, um, I mean,yeah, I say call, and that's how
it started.
So it wasn't an argument.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
But no, uh, the good news is, if you're in Michigan
or any other state, you can callout sick.
That's all I'm saying.
You can call out sick.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
You don't have to call in sick, you can call out
sick Is it like calling out,like a, like I'm calling out
sick, I was like I'm going tocall it.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
I'm calling comma out sick.
Thank you very much.
Goodbye.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Well, if you pay attention to our social and I
know you do uh, unfortunately,on that one you haven't won but
these are probably the samepeople who wear toBrems and eat
ketchup or don't eat ketchup ontheir hot dogs.
Wow, okay, now you jumped mebecause I insulted some of our
listeners in Ohio.
(01:00:52):
You literally just took a corebasis of our no, there's nothing
wrong with them?
Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
I'm just saying there's this group of people who
probably fit within that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
To be fair for all of the Ohioio listeners, it's a
rivalry, it's a joke, um.
But I want to thank scott andsue, not only for his increased
contribution, but I reallyappreciate the camaraderie and
the funny pictures and stravaabout.
They're riding in georgia andthey stopped at a hot dog stand
(01:01:24):
and and Scott threw his wifeunder the bus and said look what
she put on her hot dog.
And so it was.
She definitely had a.
He took some pictures and herhot dog is loaded with ketchup
and uh.
And you said to him if you wanta salad on your hot dog?
Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
No, I just, you know, there's a thing you know.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
I, it's, it's.
Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
I'm right.
I'm sorry You're not.
Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
I don't hold it against you or anything but uh
yeah, I'm so happy to have mytoys back.
Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
So, uh, uh, listen, I'm going to call out sick
tomorrow.
I'm going to eat ketchup on myhot dog and I'm not wearing a
DeBrim.
How about that?
What's?
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
your boss's name I'm just kidding.
Listen.
I appreciate the jokes and thehumor and the banter.
I appreciate all of you who arenot only watching but listening
and taking the time to write us, and if you have any questions
about anything, let us know.
Until next time again here inMichigan, I can tell you what it
(01:02:28):
wasn't today A great day toride a bicycle, that's true, but
it was somewhere.
And we promised each other thatwe were going to remind our
listeners something, and wefailed on the last show.
Ladies and gentlemen, on behalfof Michael and myself, we have
some advice for you.
It is always good to travelwith an extra derailleur hanger
(01:02:54):
Always.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Please do.
We always find people that aresearching for them and can never
find them.
Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
And if you're confused about that, the
derailleur hanger is on the backof the bicycle and holds your
rear gear set.
And if the bicycle falls overand that little piece of metal
that's, oh, about an inch and ahalf, with a special hook on it
that holds your derailleur,which, if you're not familiar,
on your bicycle, that's helpedthe shift in the back, from the
little gear to the big gear.
In the back you can find allkinds of parts, but michael can
(01:03:24):
tell you himself because hetried to get his own.
He has it now, but tell him howhard it is.
Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Yeah, every bike company has a different style
and a lot of models within thesame one have different styles
and arrangements.
Of this derailleur, I went tomy local bicycle shop and had a
very difficult time finding itand finally my bicycle shop sent
me online to find it.
(01:03:51):
Yeah, and this is a majorbicycle.
I won't get into names oranything, but it's a major
bicycle it's not correct you'reright, it's not correct.
But it's a major bicycle uhcompany and they do servicing
and all that.
They weren't even able to getme one.
So, needless to say, we've bothseen it.
Adam, you're out on a ride andthat breaks, and we have seen
(01:04:12):
more than once people likehitting even in, like rag bra,
hitting all the mechanics andnone of the mechanics had one
that would fit their bike andthey're sending out message
saying does anybody have onethat will fit this and that kind
of thing?
So for you know, $25, $30, Isay, get one.
They're little, they're notvery big, stick it in your bike
(01:04:34):
and you've got one.
So just in case that breaks,you can take it to the mechanic
and say I brought my own.
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
And I will leave with this, in rag bride 2024, you
and I stayed home we did not goto rag by that year because we
did shoreline we were watchingthe social media from rag bribe
as they took off, and that woman, um, literally you and I had
(01:05:02):
just done a show the day beforeabout traveling with your
bicycle and then we said if shewould just listen to our, our
show, because she was desperateto find a derailleur.
She said, please, I don't wantmy ride to end.
Does anyone have one?
I'm like, well, if you wouldhave just listened to us.
So, but uh, yes.
So before you're doing anymajor trip, before any traveling
, before any big ride, uh, go toyour local bike shop, support,
(01:05:24):
support, local, and findyourself an extra derailleur
hanger.
On that note, sir, it's alwayswonderful to be with you.
Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Thank you Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Have a good day you too.
Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Thank you for coming along with Adam and Michael on
Road Adventures with Cycling Menof Leisure.
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