All Episodes

August 31, 2025 50 mins

Send us a text

What happens when tracking apps meant to keep your children safe become tools for insurance companies to monitor driving habits? This episode kicks off with a startling revelation about Life360 that parents of teen drivers won't want to miss, complete with a crucial tip on disabling the insurance reporting feature while preserving the app's family tracking capabilities.

Adam takes us behind the scenes of his recent transit conference at Crystal Mountain, where professional development seamlessly blended with charity golf tournaments and networking. Between playful accusations of tournament cheating and serious discussions about the state of public transit funding, the conversation reveals how industry gatherings balance work and play—a perfect metaphor for the podcast itself.

The heart of this episode centers around the upcoming Bourbon Country Burn event in Kentucky, where cycling meets bourbon appreciation in a festival atmosphere. Adam and Michael enthusiastically detail their plans for VIP bourbon tastings with legendary figures like Freddie Johnson of Buffalo Trace, while revealing fascinating insights about international bourbon distribution. The Japanese version of Blanton's, with its distinctive red box and unique horse stopper, serves as a gateway to understanding how American spirits travel globally before sometimes returning through secondary markets.

Perhaps the most charming segment features Michael's deep dive into 1920s slang terminology that connects to the podcast's vintage-inspired logos. From "bee's knees" and "cat's pajamas" to prohibition-era terms like "giggle water" and "juice joint," these linguistic time capsules provide both entertainment and cultural context. The hosts particularly champion bringing back "moxie" as a descriptor for the determination and spirit that characterizes both their cycling adventures and approach to life.

Whether you're a bourbon enthusiast, cycling advocate, or simply enjoy conversational podcasts that blend humor with unexpected knowledge, this episode delivers a perfect blend of practical information and entertaining banter. Listen in, and you might just find yourself using "You're on the trolley now!" in your next conversation.

Support

Jersey Store

Support the show

Adam and Michael’s friendship has grown through years of shared miles, challenges, and laughter on the bike. Their passion for cycling has carried them through life’s twists and turns, creating a bond full of stories, jokes, and unforgettable rides. In their podcast, they bring that same spirit to the mic—sharing adventures, trading banter, and welcoming listeners into their cycling community. Whether tackling steep climbs or cruising open roads, their conversations capture the fun, friendship, and freedom that cycling brings. Tune in for stories that celebrate the ride and the camaraderie that makes it unforgettable.


and Remember,

It's a Great Day for a Bike Ride!
https://www.facebook.com/cyclingmenofleisure
https://cyclingmenofleisure.com/
https://www.cyclingmenofleisurepodcast.com


Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Well, it's time for Road Adventures with Cycling Men
of Leisure, the podcast forcyclists who understand that
riding is not just about gettingto the destination, but the
experience along the way.
Now here are the originalCycling Men of Leisure Adam and
Michael.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it is now time
for your favorite gentleman theCycling Men of Leisure Road
Adventures, our podcast, myselfand my good friend Mr Michael
Sharp.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Thank you, Adam.
Wow, that's a.
You could be a carnival barker.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, sunday, sunday, sunday, the Atlanta Motor
Speedway.
Oh yeah, monster truck jam.
That's right, I thought I woulddo something a little different
today, but how you been, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
You know, I've been fine.
We're not going to discuss theshoulder because that hasn't
changed, but things have beengood.
You know, we've had the firstweek and a half of high school
here and yeah, I got thequestion today hey dad, do you
think maybe this weekend wecould uh try a little driving?
So, uh, yeah, I think we can.

(01:32):
You know it's a double-edgedsword.
On the one hand, a, she wantsto drive, that's good.
B, um, her driving is going togive her freedom.
And I mean, like I said, I livein a small 5,000 people.

(01:53):
You know you can get from oneside of town to the other in
less than five minutes.
Um, that would free up a lot ofmy time.
Just, you know, running thelittle things that I do for and
stuff like that, it's like, yeah, he ran down to the store or
whatever, so there's that.
But then there, you know,obviously, as there's a high
schooler in my vehicle out onthe road driving that I'm
responsible for.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
You know this is totally going to take the show
to like this.
This like way deep thing but allmy coworkers, adam's bringing
it up, so we kind of expect thatwell, yeah, of course, but
listen, you know that, uh, life360, yes, um, just really saw an

(02:35):
interesting article that youknow how, when it comes up with
the notifications, and do youagree?
And?
And did you know what I justlearned about Life360?
I had no idea.
You can look this up.
This is not propaganda.
They directly report toinsurance companies.
My point on that is thinkingabout your young lady about to

(02:58):
drive.
Do not allow Life360, bro.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I don't think that's going to be a problem, cause
I've never really used it.
Okay, so, um, I mean, I'mfamiliar with it.
I don't really use it, but, um,that's interesting, yeah, so
there.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
No, I, I, uh, I got turned on from uh, uh an
employee and and um said hey,you use life 360.
And I said no, I don't havekids.
And they said oh yeah, well,you probably wouldn't use it.
And they were like did you know?
And I was like hmm, and it wasone of those things where when
someone told me something, Iwent back to my desk and
searched it up and, sure enough,they report to the conglomerate

(03:37):
that owns State Farm andeverything.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
So I was like wow, so Life360 is an agent of the man.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah.
Good to know Now if you learnedright here on Road Adventures
of Cycling Men of Leisurepodcast that your insurance
rates are being driven byfollowing your children, you're
welcome, Turn it off.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Turn it off.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
You actually with a follow-up on that.
You can actually go into thesettings and turn off the
insurance reporting part.
You can still have the functionof Life360, follow your family,
follow your kids Without thebig brother watching, without
yeah, you can turn it off.
So if you did not know that,quickly, very quickly, go turn
it off.
My opinion, my opinion only.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well, you know just to clarify Ben's.
We're broadcasting all over theether in the universe here.
My daughter is a veryresponsible young lady, Very
good driver I'm quite sure shewill be.
Gets good grades, works reallyhard.
Does not use her phone orlisten to the radio while she's
driving.
So take that, Mr InsuranceCompany, the radio while she's

(04:45):
driving so um.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Take that, mr Insurance company USAA.
Jake from state farms isknocking on my door right now.
Uh, anyways, figured, I wouldshare that with our, with our
leisure community.
So listen, I happen to knowyour daughter.
Not only do I know that she candefinitely fight right back

(05:09):
with you and give it right backto you.
Sir Does seem like a very, notonly attractive young lady, but
very smart, and I'm sure she'lldo responsible things.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
That being said, she did make me breakfast with a
single waffle maker, and I'mtalking like stacks of waffles
With the single and oh yeah,that was hilarious and there was
like a regular size wafflemaker right there next to it.
But she likes the little onesand you know what?

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I think it was her dedication Customer service.
She wanted some finite I meanmean those were boutique, I mean
special uh, which we'll getinto that later, so but um, uh,
handcrafted handcrafted shecould have charged you triple.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
She could have charged you triple.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
We didn't charge you anything, but we could have
charged you triple for thatremember those old uh
infomercials were like oh, and alittle dusting of powdered
sugar, but yes, anyway, so goodfor Maya and I'm sure she's
doing great, and I'm sure it's.

(06:17):
You know, you've had this younglady who is slowly, very
quickly, by the way, growing up,so I'm sure that's why you're
opening whiskey.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
I was going to say let me pour another glass while
you're sitting here likefreaking me out.
Thank you, I appreciate that.
What you got there tonight I'vegot a little Rieger's Kansas
City style whiskey.
That's right, Very nice, Maderight here Well, I shouldn't say
right here, but made in KansasCity, Missouri, which you and I

(06:47):
have partaked in many a time.
Absolutely Home of thetwo-story slide.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I see also we talk about Maya a lot and Max I do
apologize.
I see Max is starting year twoof college.
See, max is starting year twoof college.
He is starting year two ofcollege.
Congratulations, buddy.
I wish you a wonderful schoolyear.
Max, if you're listening,sometimes I know this show gets
played in the family wagon.
I don't know if you have awagon, but it just sounded funny

(07:19):
to say wagon.
So, max, buddy, good luck withyear two, my friend.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Now I'll make sure he listens to it, because man Adam
mentioned you.
Adam, you got to listen to it.
That's right, that's right.
So, enough about me and mywhole group here.
How's things going with you?
I understand you had aconference.
Yes, another one like you everdo when you work in an office.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well, I do get teased by some of the employees.
This is conference season,there's seasons, okay,
conference season.
Yeah, this is conference season, like we have in michigan.
We have winter and there'sbarrel season and barrels are
all on construction and then wehave not for real.
There's a lot of conferences,but yes, I was, uh, this is
what's there to talk about.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
This is a road, this is a bus.
We put the two together, alongwith the driver, it transforms.
We move these people from pointa to point b.
We probably throw in some eulercircuit for any of you math
geeks out there that know whatthose are, and really, what's
there to talk about?
Don't be on your phone, boom,right there.

(08:28):
Well, I just condensed yourentire conference down into
three minutes.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
One guy could have saved a boatload of time because
I've been gone for three days,four days, there's a yellow
standee line.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Don't let any people stand in front of that.
That's a yellow standee line.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Don't let any oh, that's federal.
People stand in front of that.
That's a federal.
Yeah, this will stay when not afederal conference well, still
doesn't hurt to remind people uh, let's see, I would say answer
your question truthfully andfairly well.
First of all, uh, I went to aplace called crystal mountain.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
It is a ski and golf resort we've been by there on a
bike ride we have.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
This is correct.
And um, on sunday night Igolfed with some vendors, which
is always good because it's.
Even though it's fun and it'soff hours, it's still.
You're still chewing the cutabout work and so you're not
buying anything not on the well.
You're not buying anything thisyear I did buy some stuff this

(09:27):
year.
I bought some digital signage,uh, at the beginning of the year
with one of the vendors.
So we used to like, oh, we'regoing to be closed memorial day,
and then we print out 35 piecesof paper and take scotch tape
and you'd have layers and layersof scotch tape all over the bus
.
And so we bought some fancydigital signage that we can
change, and so that guy wasthere and we golf, have layers
and layers of scotch tape allover the bus, and so we bought
some fancy digital signage thatwe can change, and so that guy

(09:48):
was there and we golfed with him.
And then another guy was therewith us, and so that was Sunday
night.
And then Monday was thetournament charity golf
tournament, which supports thePAC for lobbying for public
transit, which sounds all goodand fine, but we were golfing.

(10:08):
Let's be honest Third place, 20teams.
Third place right here, ourteam.
But you were first.
No, I wasn't first.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
If you learn nothing from Ricky Bobby.
If you ain't first, you're last.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
No, no, if you're not first, you're third.
No.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
We're third.
We're two away from first.
It's like the reserve reservegrand champion.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I'm not sure if anyone from the Transit
Conference listens to this inour narcissistic podcast, but
I'm just going to say it righthere because it's our platform
and I can.
I think there might have beensome cheating.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh yeah, you know what?
That's always what losers saythe other team cheated, the refs
are no good.
The refs were on the payroll.
Come on, so you're?
You're just lost.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
You're familiar that par on many courses is like 76,
72, whatever right it's aboutwhat I.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
It's about what I golf, yeah okay, it's not.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
What do you golf for 18?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
multiply that by two.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, I was gonna say what do you golf for 18, but um
, these guys came in 17 underand I I'm like oh BS.
Now, I know you don't golf a lot, but when you do this kind of
conference you play best ballFour guys, four guys, four guys,

(11:35):
four guys.
Then, by the way, there aresome ladies I do apologize,
there were some ladies Fourteammates hit and then you hit
the best ball and there wasmulligans that you could buy for
supporting the pack, and soeach person could buy four
mulligans or 16 mulligans forthe thing, and so you could say
well, I mean obviously, Adam,they did well.

(11:55):
But now this is a difficultcourse that we played.
For anyone in Michigan who'slistening, we played the
mountainside, Pretty difficultcourse, and so when they said 17
under, the whole room isgrumbling uh, baloney in us, you
know.
But uh, we, we, uh, we shot a60 and uh, and that was third

(12:20):
place, and so, yeah, got a,maybe they just used all their
mulligans.
We did too.
We needed them.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Maybe their use of mulligans was just better than
your use of mulligans.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Now see, and then there's another part of me that
says maybe they didn't cheat,because really all you get is
it's not like a real tournament,where if you play with your
buddies it's like half the potis 500 bucks.
Well, this was I mean.
It went like a spider ring.
You know, if you go to Showbizwhich I just dated myself go to
Chuck E Cheese and it's like, oh, you got 100 tickets A spider

(12:55):
ring.
All right, you just got firstpick at the prize table.
So there was some Pro V1 golfballs.
But yeah, I mean I won twoboxes of balls.
So that's good, I can losethose like I can lose any others
, and I had a lot of fun.
But then Tuesday was you askedthe question, which was what did

(13:20):
we learn there?
The state of Michigan gives itscurrent update and things do
not look good.
The federal government gave itsupdate and things didn't look
good.
And then on Wednesday Iactually, sir, have you know, I
was a presenter.
I presented at a segment calledTransit Software 101.
And then my next segment wasavoiding the pitfalls of RFPs or

(13:44):
requests for proposals.
I know you can yawn all youwant, but you asked a question.
I'm answering the question.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
That was more of a rhetorical question, but that's
okay, I'm glad and it soundslike they went well.
I'm sure that's interestingstuff to transit professionals.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Hey, buddy, yeah, and then buddy, yeah, and then I
drove home You're going to see acommon theme here and then I
drove home for my golf league.
But no, yeah, besides that,life is good.
Lauren is home and mybrother-in-law and sister-in-law
came in to visit, and so we'vebeen pretty busy.

(14:28):
But besides that, life is goodand school has started here, so
traffic is taking a little bitlonger, but that's just part of
life.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Slow down for the buses.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Especially the yellow standee line, my friend.
But besides that, we, sir,we've got a couple of things.
We have a few folks who, whosome?
Our friend Matt Robinson.
Even though it's a two wordanswer, three word, he said, oh,

(15:03):
but well done, and so he, he,he he, he guessed on last
episode's listener spotlight,and although he had the right
state, he had the wrong town,that's correct, that's correct.
Uh, we also heard a guest, whichI'll wait, um, and you actually

(15:29):
communicated with Michael Walco, um why do you make that sound
so surprised?
You actually communicated withsomebody because I know your job
is a little bit more hands-onand you're you're unable
sometimes during the day to jumpon the old social, but this
time I saw that you were quick.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
You responded before I could get to it.
Yeah, I don't spend all my daysat conferences and golf courses
.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Someone's got to do it, brother, someone's got to do
it, fair enough.
Michael Walco says he was ableto get two tickets for he and
his son to the Freddie JohnsonVIP tasting at Bourbon Country,
burn Nice.
You and I were also able to gettwo tickets.
We did.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
So we'll have to hook up with them and sit at the
same table and hear whatFreddie's got to say for us.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Michael says he's very excited.
He's heard Freddie on somebourbon podcast and he's awesome
and he really absolutely is.
He says I love his perspectiveon enjoying bourbon, looking
forward to it.
By the way, he says I credit.
Then he says in parentheses, orblame lol your podcast for

(16:45):
starting my modest bourbonjourney.
I hope to share the story withyou when we're down in Kentucky.
And then you obviously repliedand said that we got tickets.
So yes, this is our third timethat we're going to get to see
Freddie and so far, the twotimes that we saw him before
were definitely different and Ilook forward to possibly

(17:06):
something even more differentfor us.
And I'm sure every time hetalks my receptors are just high
.
His stories are just amazing.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
So I'm looking forward to that.
He's a great storyteller.
It's going to be fun.
I'm glad to hear some of ourcommunity out there will be in
attendance, so it should be agood time.
And, hey, you will have a lotof opportunities to add to that
modest collection of yours.
Many opportunities For sure.

(17:36):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Okay, now we did receive a guess on your last
listener spotlight.
Okay, now we did receive aguess on your last listener
spotlight.
Okay, would you like to givethe clues first?
But if you say yes to that, Ihave to be prepared.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, itis now time for your favorite
segment listener spotlight.

(18:02):
Listener Spotlight.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
That's right.
Let's look at the clues that Igave you Last episode for the
Listener Spotlight.
The first white settlers Movedinto this area In the mid 1700s.
The town was founded in the mid1800s as a Railroad station.
Um, um, it was a big, bigrailroad hub.

(18:27):
Three lines crossed into thedowntown area.
As usual, the town's namechanged during the Civil War and
that was to honor a Confederatesenator, and then, after the
war, they immediately changed itback.
The history of this townincludes organized crime,

(18:47):
bootlegging, old time music anda soft drink.
And my final clue was a truckerheading west was on his way to
this town.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Ok, well who guessed and what did they guess?
So Wade Paul, our friend friendof the show, he's guest and
replied and communicated with usmany times and we appreciate
that.
He says the answer is JohnsonCity, Tennessee, has a history
that dates back to 1769.

(19:23):
Was founded in 1856 at theconfluence of the three rail
lines, Was named Haynesville inthe Civil War and honored
Senator Landon Carter Haynes.
Bootlegging and organized crimeare in every Tennessee town in

(19:45):
the area.
Listen to the song Rocky Top,which is one of the most
disturbing songs possibly tomake but has a killer refrain.
I'm sorry, but the soft drinkhistory is Mountain Dew, the
trucker heading west.
It's a reference to the wagonwheel himself by Hootie himself,

(20:06):
Darius Rucker.
Johnson C, Tennessee.
Thanks for listening.
Mic drop answer done.
No, just kidding.
I added in those last parts sohe does say Johnson City,
Tennessee.
Thanks for listening.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
All right, he did his research.
But you know what, oh boy.
He did his research.
But you know what, oh boy?
He is exactly correct.
Johnson City, tennessee.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I want you to know that Ed just heard that at 1.8.
Oh, there you go A lot of fastclapping.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Founded as a railroad station by Henry Johnson Was in
fact named for a Confederatesenator, haynesville, but then
was changed back.
Yeah, organized crime.
It's actually rumored to be oneof Al Capone's distribution
centers and Al Capone alsomaintained a luxury apartment in

(21:11):
the county Mountain.
Dew was created there in the1940s and that name was
trademarked in 1948.
And truckers headed west fromthe Cumberland Gap to Johnson
City, tennessee Wagon Wheel song.

(21:31):
Now, one thing I will correct,wade, is it is a Darius Rutgers
song but and you know this itwas somebody sang it before they
did Famously sang it, and Ibelieve what's that Medicine?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
crow medicine show, yeah, old crow medicine.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, they actually sang.
It was probably saying a half adozen times by other groups.
But, um, yeah, it's, it's a,it's a remake, but it's a solid
song and you know what, when Igave you that, you immediately
started thinking about songs andI thought you were going to
guess it right off the bat,because you started.
Anytime I have musicalreferences, you're like.
So I was like he's going to getit and you didn't, so I just

(22:18):
let it lie.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I used to love trivia shows where they would have
like songs and phrases and Ialways really enjoyed that.
But anyways, we'd like to thanknot only Johnson City Tennessee
listeners, but all listeners.
Thank you so much.
Yes.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
And that's been another episode of Listener
Spotlight.
Well, all right.
We normally have an Armandosegment.
This one is quick, this one isshort.
Don't worry, connie, we won'tput you through a lot, but here
it goes.
Armando, I challenge you tocome to bourbon country burn

(23:04):
thank you for listening.
So, uh, I think he's thinkingabout it.
So well, he is thinking aboutit.
But speaking of bourbon,country burn, yes, that is our
event that we are going to, um,and we're looking forward to
that.
Uh, we've got a couple thingswhere you and I are going to do
some distillery tours beforehand, during unfortunately probably

(23:29):
not after, because both of uswill have to get back to the
real life.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
We can get a.
If everything works out the wayI, I think it's going to work.
We're going to get a two orthree really good tours in cool,
we can do some tastings in acouple different places that we
haven't been before nice, andthen we'll be able to enjoy
everything the bourbon countryburn has to offer and possibly
even ride the bike.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
I mean, oops, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, oh
shoulder.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
No, we will get on the bikes.
I don't know how long I'll last, but we will get on the bikes
and we will ride, because youcan't go to a bike ride without
riding a little.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
So earlier we mentioned that Michael Walco got
some tickets and we got sometickets.
But what are we talking about?
So the Bourbon Country Burn isnot only a cycling event.
It has wonderful campfires inthe evening, it has bourbon
tasting.
It also has this little tent Ishouldn't say little, but it has

(24:35):
this tent in the back of theproperty and it got some fine
tables and some lighting and awonderful host and there's some
private vip tastings.
Now, uh, I am gonna have tocheat here just for one second
here, but for Friday night, ifyou are going, they have Whiskey

(24:56):
Thief, whiskey Thief and HavenHill.
Okay, and Haven Hill.
Now, haven Hill is sold out atthe time of this recording, but
the Whiskey Thief.
Distillery Liquid Gold andLisa's Lore is still available,
and Saturday's event is BuffaloTrace with Freddie Johnson,
which is currently sold out.

(25:17):
But, what's not sold out, andwhat I want to talk about is we
had a gentleman called PhilCollin from Phil Talks Whiskey
on our show.
No, no, not Phil Collin, youcan feel it coming in the air
tonight.
No, wrong guy, wrong guy, wrongguy.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
This is Whiskey Phil.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, phil Talks Whiskey or Phil Collins, and he
is going to have a tasting whichis not sold out at the time of
this recording.
It's called the KentuckyHomecoming.
It's global pours with localroots, with Phil Talks whiskey,
and I won't yammer on the wholething, but his point is for his
is.
He says you may know that someof the bourbon basics, including

(25:59):
the rule that by law that allbourbon must be distilled, aged
and bottled in, not KentuckyAmerica, it is a misguided that
it has to be in Kentucky.
It's not, it just has to be inAmerica.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
It's from the 70s and 80s where Kentucky tried to
like well, it can only be madehere Exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
He said but did you know that it doesn't always have
to stay there?
Now, you and I did know that,but did you ever wonder how the
bottles that are madespecifically by distilleries
that are shipped to other placeslike Japan?
I think the reason why Japan isfirst is because Blanton's is
known to ship up a whole case ofBlanton's to Japan.

(26:44):
And for those of you on YouTube, give me a second, and I will
be.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
I'm really hoping he's going to have Blanton's Red
, which is the Japanese versionfor us to taste, because I've
never tasted it.
You've got it right there inthe box because I believe your
mother bought that for you forChristmas.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
She did my favorite mother, my only mother, and if
anyone's never seen the bottle,I'll even go so far as to get
the bottle out.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Can she adopt me and buy me a bottle of Blanton's
from Japan?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
She might I mean she does think the world of you,
Although every now and then shestill calls you Mike, and I
always have to tell her that isfine with me.
That is fine with me.
So this is a Japanese bottle ofblend, so the bottle looks
exactly the same, except thehorse is not running.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
The horse is just standing upright.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
It's like trotting right, that's right, but the
finest bourbon in the worldcomes in a single barrel and of
course it has final Feinsteintag here.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Right.
So it's just like ours as faras the bottle looks, except the
horse is only in one position.
It doesn't have the full layoutrunning thing it's just for our
YouTube friends.
Yeah, there you go.
It's just like trotting Um, butthe the the bag, I'm assuming,
is different too.
Just a velvet, little velvet,it's just a brown velvet bag,

(28:15):
but the box is red.
That's correct.
And so we have actually visitedBlanton's or, excuse me,
Buffalo Trace on the day thatthey were boxing up Blanton's
for Japan, because we stood intheir little house there where
they were boxing it all up andit was all in the red boxes and
they had a big pallet there thatthey were loading up and that

(28:35):
was that was headed to Japan.
So it was kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
So, anyways, phil and his tasting is going to be
bringing some of those bourbonsand talking about which ones go
across the country and maybecome back, and so a lot of them
do come back and and they comeback on the secondary market,
believe it or not.
For those of you who are intobourbon and listen to us because
of bourbon and and leisure, andnot so much the cycling, um,

(29:02):
you should know that a lot ofthe secondary market is these.
These bourbons do get sent, uh,overseas and then they make
their way back to the UnitedStates.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
They also show up in the duty-free shops at the
airports all over the world.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
So if you see a Blanton's in a maroonish-reddish
box, like you're seeing on yourscreen, or you can see in your
face and your ears, that went toJapan, ears that went to japan.
This went to japan and mymother was traveling and took
care of her favorite son she getit at the duty-free shop I

(29:41):
believe she did.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah, yes, they were traveling generally yeah, when
you're traveling, you cangenerally find some decent
whiskeys at decent prices at theduty-free shops.
I mean, you have to be flyinginternational, of course.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Last thing I'll say.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
I'm looking forward to it.
We've been to his talks twoother years that we went Very
educational.
The guy knows his stuff.
In fact we've actually had himas a guest on this show before
and our goal, hopefully, is toget him back on here to touch
base because he has a business.
Phil Talks Whiskey.

(30:17):
He doesn't just do well, hedoes what he's.
He doesn't just do you know thebourbon country burn.
He does these special whiskeyevents all over.
You know the bourbon trail typearea.
You know Lexington andLouisville and that kind of
stuff and is very knowledgeable,gives tours.
He knows all the ins and outsabout everything bourbon.

(30:41):
So I'm looking forward to it.
It should be fun.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
What intrigued me about jumping in on both of
those VIP tastings is he saysjoin us and cap off your
Saturday evening with the burn,with a fun event in our VIP
tasting tent and take advantageof your chance to try some
whiskeys you're likely never hadbefore and you may never get a

(31:07):
chance to try again.
And I thought that's intriguing.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
That's bold, right there.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, so that is still available.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
It'll be interesting to see what he comes up with.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
If you're looking to join us and you're coming down
and you want some VIP, close outthe night with us on Saturday,
because that is at the time ofthis recording is still
available.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
I think tickets are only like $70.
Yeah, but it's like an hourlong talk.
I mean, last time I think hehad, you know, six, six
different whiskeys to taste, andit was.
I mean, he just flows withknowledge of whiskeys and
bourbons and it's's it's reallygood.

(31:50):
I think saturday is gonna be awonderful evening, so, uh, it's
really like a festival is whatthe whole evenings turn out to
be at that ride.
It sure is music and there'sall the the tastings and then
the vip experiences and then,you know, a lot of people wind
back up at our campsite andwe're generally partaking in in

(32:12):
uh, food and drinks, and so it'sgoing to be a good time.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I'm looking forward to it just as a I always find, I
think, what this needs to besaid by you and I, because we've
often wondered.
I mean, I'll hosted and willingto host you on our on.
We rent one of the KentuckyHorse Park campground sites.
Welcome to stay with us.
If you're looking at a place topop your tent up and sit around

(32:37):
the fire.
Me, casa Su Casa are are.
We are happy to host, just as atransparency, traditionally on
Friday, on Saturday, sundaymorning Excuse me, I'm so sorry
On Sunday morning you and Inormally don't do a lot of
writing and pretty much pack upand have to head out, and so if
you are staying with us onSunday, saturday night to end of

(32:59):
Sunday, please understand that.
Happy to have you, welcome tojoin, but normally on Sunday you
and I are packing up and I haveto get get get rolling at a
pretty good, pretty good hour.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
But even if you don't want to stay there, you they do
provide camping for the bourbonburn participants.
It's a little off to the side.
You're certainly welcome tocome over and hang out with us
either evening.
Well, thursday, friday orSaturday.
So you know it's there, theinvitation's out.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Did you see on the social media the announcement
from our good friends fromGeorgia?

Speaker 3 (33:43):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I've got to be honest with you, guess if you are a
Georgia fan, or people who mayor may not have been to a little
known ride called brag.
They are bringing the brag busand brag is going to have a
showing in kentucky.
And so I believe, just to setthe level straight I believe

(34:08):
Stephanie is bringing the bus.
I don't think the man, the myth, the legend himself is going to
be there, but I believeStephanie is bringing the bus
and Bragg is going to have ashowing in Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
That is awesome because that's a ride that they
have not had a showing at.
There's been a lot of peoplethat we've ran into ourselves
included, who have ridden braguh, who show up there and ride
that ride, so this will be cool.
So, um, yeah, so Stephanie willbe bringing the brag bus and
that'll that'll be fun.
We be good to see Stephanie.
She's the one doing all theheavy lifting anyway, so you

(34:44):
know, I hope she's setting upthat big red tent.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
That's right.
I want her out there with thehammer.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
By the way, there are stickers on the pole of their
big red tent.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I know, I saw that when you put that on there.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Well, the other people had their stickers on
there.
I thought, well, why should webe left out?

Speaker 2 (35:04):
All right, let's move this can down the road.
Kick, kick, kick, kick kick.
You said you had something cooland I'm all ears.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
The other day I was looking at our logos.
We have two of them.
Actually we have more than two,but we were looking at the
original.
I was looking at the originalCycling man of Leisure logo and
for any of you that have seen it, it's this guy in kind of 1920s
work dress apparel, riding abicycle.

(35:35):
We then produce the CyclingWomen of Leisure, which is a
lady dressed in kind of thedress of the times of the 1920s,
riding a bicycle as well, and acouple of years ago we
affectionately named the guyOtis and the woman Mary.
So we got Otis and Mary.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
This is what you do when you pedal hundreds of miles
and you have nothing else totalk about.
You name fictional charactersin your logos.
We did do that.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
We did do that along the road.
It's okay, you know we've gotto run out of things to talk
about and you know, 85 mile ride, you start.
What should we name them?
So they're named Otis and Mary,and I was thinking, you know,
it's the, the logos that we haveare very 1920s.
It gives you the 1920s.
It kind of sounds like youshould be hearing.
You know piano playing and thattype of thing.

(36:29):
I was thinking, if we werecycling, men of leisure or just
men of leisure in the 1920s,what would be different?
And I know you know the bikeswould be different and our
clothes would be different.
You wouldn't be runningtransportation and I wouldn't be
a business architect.
Uh, but I started thinkingabout language, the words that

(36:50):
we use.
How would we be talking in the1920s if we were men of leisure?
So I did some research, okay,and I compiled a list of words
that were hugely popular in the1920s, that most of them you do

(37:11):
not hear in use today.
So I thought I would discussand share some of those with you
.
Okay, are you ready?
This one you probably heardbefore Bee's knees or the cat's
pajamas.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Now I've definitely heard like not only bee's knees,
like you're the bee's knees,not only bee's knees, like
you're the bee's knees, but I'vealso seen like in bar, like
speakeasy bars, speakeasy in2020, you know, 2021, 2023, 2025
.
But beer's knees, which is kindof taking a play off of the
bee's knees.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yes, well, we're not talking about the drink here, we
are talking about the term andreally, bee, bees, knees and
cat's pajamas are kind of thesame.
They really refer to somethingor someone who is excellent or
extraordinary.
So let me just say right nowAdam, you are the cat's pajamas.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Meow.
Oh wait, that's not exactly.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, let's stop that right now.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I wonder why they got that the cat's pajamas.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
That's interesting.
The bees don't have knees.
Cats don't wear pajamas.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I don't know, this is what they did when they pedaled
85 miles.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
On those one-speed bikes.
Let's come up with some newwords for things, all right, how
about giggle water?

Speaker 2 (38:39):
uh, well, that's kind of.
I mean, because of harry potter, I would that'd be an alcoholic
drinker, but or like a like alike a vodka or something like
that an alcoholic beverageduring during prohibition.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Um, glad rags go, put on your glad rags.
Was that like?
Dancing outfit uh, those areactually clothes made out of
trash bags.
No, I'm for real.
Oh, you know the glad bag neveryeah uh, no, glad rags are,
drags are Sorry.
Fancy clothes worn to a partyor a social event.

(39:16):
Okay, how about applesauce?

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Gladlock, just kidding.
Applesauce, yeah, applesauce,applesauce, oh well, wait a
minute.
When we used to own an appleorchard and like a, like a, like
a stuff that comes in a jar youbuy at the grocery store, no,

(39:42):
no, no, I'm thinking like the,like uh, bowler hats and stuff
like that applesauce isbasically just nonsense,
nonsense or nonsense stuff.
I'm pretty good at that.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Know your onions.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Know your onions.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Adam, know your onions.
Is that like know what you do?
That's not good.
Or know your weaknesses?

Speaker 3 (40:06):
No, it's to be knowledgeable or well-informed.
Oh God, Adam, you know youronions about transportation.
Well, yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Michael needs to stay behind the yellow dandelion.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Well, to that I say all wet Adam is all wet meaning
incorrect or mistaken.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
All wet is an oh wow okay.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Here's one I thought was weird.
Don't worry for nothing.
Don't worry for nothing.
Adam, don't worry for nothing.
Now, this one is weird becauseit means to be completely
ignorant.
John, don't worry for nothing.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Like don't worry about stuff you don't really
know about.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
So that was weird.
Now here's one.
You do know.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Juice joint.
Oh yeah, this is like aspeakeasy, this is like back.
You open the closet door andeveryone's back there having
some bourbon, playing some poker, smoking cigars, listening to
jazz music.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
By the way, remind me Lexington we need to check out.
They have a speakeasy therethat literally you walk into a
room and it's this little tinyroom and it looks like a library
and you got to find the littlebutton and push the button
before they let you in.
Oh, let's do that.
Got to do that.
Anyway, I digress.
Uh, and how?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
and how?
Yes, like hey Jim, how are you?

Speaker 3 (41:32):
No, no, and how it just means I strongly disagree.
And how I could see that Istrongly agree, oh, strongly
agree I that doesn't really, Idon't know, Uh swag.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Like junk?

Speaker 3 (41:51):
No, it's back in the day meant stolen goods or loot.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
I love how that brings a new, a new meaning to
swag bag a hundred years later.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
It's like how you got any swag I don't know you're
not gonna steal it from me,buddy now.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
I'm sure you heard this a lot when you were dating
back in the day.
Banks closed, banks closed thatmeans no kissing banks closed I
love it uh.
Galoot means an awkward person.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Ducky this is very good, ducky very.
Oh, it's very good, very goodnow.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
I hope you didn't hear anybody say this about you
when you were dating man adamwas a flat tire like a bad
kisser.
No we can move along, but why?
I'm not even gonna like breakinto analyzing why you

(42:53):
immediately went to that, butI'm sure there's some, some
issues you should probably takeout with the therapist there.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Well, first of all, we, we.
I didn't think it was going tobe anything else no, uh, it
means a dull-witted,disappointing date a flat tire
Okay.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
A hay burner.
That is a gas guzzling car, orcould also be a horse that you
lost money on at the track Hayburner.
Here's one we still actually isstill in circulation.
Hooch, oh yeah, hooch isbootleg liquor Joe.

(43:36):
They used that back then forcoffee.
This is what you need to saymore of.
When we go out checking outbars and things Set up the crowd
.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Take care of everyone's drinks drinks
absolutely pay for all thedrinks.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Uh, now you're on the trolley.
That means now you get it.
Well, adam's finally on thetrolley finally took for only 49
years uh swank.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I'd say that's like fancy dressing up Swell Horrible
Bad liquor.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
No, that would be swill.
Oh, swill is bad liquor.
This is swell, which just meanswonderful.
Hey, how's your day?
Swell and gimlet.
Don't let anybody call you agimlet, because that just means
you're a chronic bore.
The other one that I reallylike is moxie.

(44:44):
We need to bring that word back.
Moxie yeah, you got moxie.
Yeah, you got moxie.
Moxie, I mean determination,perseverance, courageous spirit.
You show moxie.
I think we need to work that inon a Cycling man of Leisure

(45:05):
t-shirt somewhere.
We've got moxie.
Cycling man of Leisure.
I love it.
Yeah.
So there you go.
I just went down that rabbithole one day and was like that's
interesting.
Some of them are still around,others you're not going to have
ever heard.
Let's hope not.
Don't let your wife tell youthe bank's closed.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
My gosh?

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I hope not, I mean I'm broke, no, I'm just kidding
bank's closed.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Gosh, I hope not.
I mean, I'm broke, no, I'm justkidding.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
The bank is closed.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Well, I appreciate that, buddy, I appreciate you
bringing that.
Well, I think that brings us tothe closing episode of Listener
Spotlight.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
All right.
This episode's ListenerSpotlight clues are as follows
the original name of course, itchanged its name, like every
town did.
The original name was in honorof a railroad employee.
Its current name was inspiredby a European leader.

(46:20):
The city zoo started out as arescue organization.
The community is surprisinglybright.
Famous explorers pass throughthis area.

(46:45):
The city played a significantrole in ending World War II and
an Art Deco building, a landmarkin the city.
It's a building.
It's Art Deco in design, holdsa record.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
And there you go.
Well, sir, thank you for that.
Do you know what Alex Bell,dennis Keeler, scott Garwick and
Joe Grammer have in common?

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Three guys who I went to high school with.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
And one who was with them, because there's four guys
Alex Bell, dennis Keeler, scottGarwick and Joe Grammer are
supporters of the show and wewant to personally thank you for
that.
Thank you for helping us kickthis show and keep it alive, and
thank you very much.
We do appreciate your support.

(47:37):
You can be like those guys bygoing to cyclingmenofleisurecom
and you can definitely check itout there and figure out a
couple different ways if you'relooking to support the show.
We want to personally thank youall.
Thank you for everyone whotakes the time to write us um
and somewhere, somehow, some waypretty soon for you, sir, since

(48:02):
I know it's getting a littlebit better.
Slowly.
It will be a great day for abike ride.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
thank you, sir, thank you thank you for coming along
with Adam and Michael on RoadAdventures with Cycling Men of
Leisure.
If you have enjoyed this,please subscribe to the show on
the podcast app of your choice.
Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know
Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd is a thought-provoking, opinionated, and topic-driven journey through the top sports stories of the day.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.