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Bourbon on the brain, bikes in the rack, and a weekend that kept surprising us. We rolled into Lexington aiming for miles and meaningful pours and came away with a signed nine-millionth barrel at Buffalo Trace, a “unicorn” experimental bottle, and a reminder from Freddie Johnson that whiskey is really about the people you share it with. Between double allocation drops and an upstairs tasting lineup featuring Eagle Rare, Blanton’s, and Weller 12, we dug into where the bourbon market might be headed—and why more shelves seem to be stocked again.

The rides were the quiet kind we love: bluegrass roads, rolling hills, and a pace that felt better than expected after a long recovery. Back at camp, the Bourbon Country Burn offered light dinner and great fireside company, where small experiments—like a coffee liqueur topped with cold cream—turned into conversations about craft and curiosity. A tour at Town Branch raised thoughtful questions about modern production and logistics without spoiling the joy of a well-made pour. And thanks to Phil Talks Whiskey, we explored export-only bottles, from Japanese Blanton’s to a Four Roses variant you won’t find stateside, widening our palate and perspective.

Along the way we met listeners who became friends, traded stories about riding, parenting, and the right moment to open a special bottle, and even squeezed in a bonus Sunday ride before the long drive home (complete with a highway standstill and some strategic humor). We wrapped with a label-worthy Jay Mattingly pick—oak-stave finished and full of character—because sometimes a bottle is a bookmark for a weekend you don’t want to forget.

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (02:49):
Well, it's time for Road Adventures with Cycling Men
of Leisure, the podcast forcyclists who understand that
riding is not just about gettingto the destination, but the
experience along the way.
Now, here are the originalcycling men of leisure, Adam and
Michael.

SPEAKER_03 (03:02):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
welcome to Road Adventures ofCycling Men of Leisure.
I am Adam, and once again I ambeing joined with my good
friend, all the way from CentralTime.
If you're on YouTube, you seehe's got a bottle of bourbon in
his hand, pouring someMitchner's as we talked about in
our last episode.

(03:22):
Nice, buddy.

SPEAKER_05 (03:24):
I emptied out the bottle.
I thought it was only fittingthat we do Mitchhners because we
did talk about Mitchers lasttime.

SPEAKER_03 (03:29):
So there you go.
Hey, how you doing, Adam?
I am fantastic.
I uh getting in the swing ofthings, back to normal, back to
work.
Boo.
It's much more fun to betraveling to distilleries and
and breweries and camping andfriends and fireside chats and
all that good jazz.
So totally agree.

(03:59):
How does that affect you?

SPEAKER_05 (04:01):
You weren't going to a national park.
You don't work for the militaryor the government.
I am flying, it's still gonnacome in.

SPEAKER_03 (04:08):
I am flying, and TSA is not being paid right now.

SPEAKER_05 (04:12):
Yeah, that's okay.
Don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_03 (04:14):
I'm work for a company that's 50% federally
funded.
Boy, if I were you, I'd reallybe worried.

SPEAKER_05 (04:23):
I'm not gonna worry about it.
You need to worry though, buddy.

SPEAKER_03 (04:28):
Uh I do have a I have a I have an interesting
story.
I, as you know, I'm I'm you'veheard me in the car with my
employees and everything.
So I had some employees talkingabout the government shutdown.
Now, to be honest, um, we don'treally have to worry unless they
were shut down all the way untilSeptember.
The way that we draw our funds,we'll be okay.

(04:48):
And so I've tried to get themessage out to our employees.
It happens a lot.
I mean, it's not the first timethere's been a government
shutdown.
But I did have an employee tella passenger that you know our
services were gonna be limited,and that passenger has a
cognitive mental illness, wenthome, told mom, mom called me,

(05:09):
mom, mom said, please tell methat you're not really doing
this, that you are our lifeline.
I I insured her that we're gonnabe just fine, and I I put out a
a message to my employees.
We have a digital way to it'slike texting, but uh a way to
put out you know messages to theemployees.
It's like a text message, mightas well be.
And it's a link that comes totheir phone, but um so, anyways,

(05:34):
the employee came to me and theysaid, uh, I don't think you're
correct.
I think we're gonna be shuttingdown.
And I said, you know, you youyou you you told the passenger
that.
I'm telling you that you'refine.
I said, That you think this isthe first time that that you
know, the you do know that thegovernment shut down before,
right?
He looked at me like, really?

(05:54):
He was dead serious.
And I said, Oh my gosh, yougotta do some history, you know,
look at some history, you know,do your research.

SPEAKER_05 (06:01):
It wasn't that long ago.
It wasn't like back in 1942 thegovernment shut down.
No, I mean it's happenednumerous times with numerous
political parties in the office.
Yeah, I don't care what side.
The fact he argued with you isis hilarious.
It's like okay, dude.
Just just please do what you'retold.

SPEAKER_03 (06:21):
So my my director heard me talking to him, and and
you know, he he usually I gottagive him credit.
I mean, he's a really nice, I'venever had a better boss and lets
me grow and everything, and buthe did pop his head in there.
He's like, you know, I can'thelp myself.
I'm over here in thisconversation, and and he goes, I
normally wouldn't share this onhere, but it's funny.

(06:41):
He goes, Are you just notlistening to Adam?
And I was like, Boom, micdropped.
So yeah, unfortunately, I knowit causes.
By the way, I I'm I'munderstanding that as an
employee, there's a fear levelknowing they with our employees

(07:02):
knowing that we're federallyfunded.
But I clearly put out a messagethat said you're fine, your your
job's not in jeopardy.
I mean, if this goes on, youknow, if it went on for like 11
months or something, it might itcould get a little scary.
But um I have a feeling by thetime we record our next show,
yeah, which I'm finally gonnalet you do rants of
dissatisfaction on the nextshow.

(07:23):
I promised you.

SPEAKER_05 (07:24):
Well, you know what one of my rants is gonna be?
You never let me rant.

SPEAKER_03 (07:30):
Sorry about that, guys.
He just doesn't stop.
I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_05 (07:34):
Which by the way, our little comments here about
the government being closed isnot political in any way, shape,
or form.
No, we're not pointing fingers,we're not saying one side is
right, one side is wrong.
Statement of fact, government iscurrently shut down.
How it got there, we're notdiscussing.
We don't care, we're just sayingit's shut down and stuff.
So I just wanted to make sure noone thought we were trying to

(07:56):
make, you know, politicalstatements one way or the other,
which we are not.

SPEAKER_03 (08:00):
No, because uh on a serious note, I mean, all
kidding, all jokes aside, youknow, we hope you come to us to
to not think about that kind ofstuff, not think about the
seriousness, enjoy a little bitof you know, just our show and a
little slapstick humor and thefun that we poke at each other,
and and so no, that absolutelynot.
I mean, it's just like you said,it's just shut down, buddy.

SPEAKER_05 (08:23):
Uh it is shut down.
Uh it will, it's not gonna bethe last time the government
shuts down, I'll tell you thatright now.
So, anyway.

SPEAKER_03 (08:37):
About next week sometime.
That would be wonderful.

SPEAKER_05 (08:40):
So um vulnerable people, they're just not gonna
they've got a higher mission,they understand what their
mission is, they'll take care ofit.
I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_03 (08:48):
Thank you for trying to comfort me there, sir.
I don't know what you're worriedabout.
By the way, have you ever seenthose results uh researches?
They like how many guns they getthrough and how many how many
things go through.
Oh, yeah.
That's kind of interesting.
Every now and then I go, howdoes that happen?
But it happened some well.

SPEAKER_05 (09:07):
What's funny is, and I'll tell this quick story.
Sure.
When I got off the plane inCancun, because my wife and I
went to Cancun with some of herfamily, I don't know, it's been
about four or five weeks ago.
Uh, spent a week there, got offthe plane, finally got our
luggage, and we're headed out totransportation.
And there's this guy, you know,dressed in his full, you know,

(09:27):
military outfit gear.
Uh, he points at me out of thegroup and he says, Sir, and you
just step over here.
I was like, okay, no problem.
You got a gun.
I'm not gonna argue with you.
It's your country, not gonnaargue with you.
So I step over and he goes, Weneed to look through your
luggage.
And I was like, Okay.
So they had a, you went intothis little, you know, they had
it like partitioned off.
And you went in there andthere's this lady there.

(09:49):
Um, you know, and they're, Iguess they're equivalent to the
TSA.
And she goes, Well, I need tolook through this, so put it up
on there, and she unzipped itand started going through it.
And I had my cigar container.
I've got one of those, like youdo.
It's a travel cigar box, andit's got like a rubber seal
around it to help keep it, youknow, humid and all that.

(10:09):
And she's like, I'm gonna needyou to open that up.
And I was like, okay, so I popit open, uh, and it wouldn't
open.
I mean, I unhooked it, butphysically it was stuck shut.
And she's like, What's in there?
And I was like, Well, just acouple cigars.
That's all.
Yeah, you know, no big deal.
And she's like, Well, you needto open it.
And I was like, Well, I'mtrying, and you know, she could
see me physically trying to pullit open.
The pressure in the plane withthat rubber seal had just sucked

(10:34):
it completely closed, and Icouldn't get it open.
She saw, I mean, I was literallytrying and I kind of tapping it,
and it's like, I can't get this.
And what was funny is she goes,Well, do you have a knife on
you?
You could pry it open.
And I was, I didn't say anythingbecause you know, I didn't want
her to point over to her friendand say, Okay, this guy, you
know.
I was just like thinking, No, Idon't have a knife on me.

(10:56):
I just got off of a plane.
They don't let us carry kniveson the plane.
Uh, it was just funny.
It's like, you got a knife onyou you could use?
It's like, no.

SPEAKER_03 (11:07):
Like crocodile dundee.
That's not a knife.

SPEAKER_05 (11:11):
That's a knife.
I got a small short sword.
Will that work?
It was just funny that she askedme if I had a knife when she
knows I just got off anairplane.
Fortunately, I had my I dug mykeys out and was able to get it
in there.
And when I popped it open andwent, pshh.
I love it.
Keeps my cigars fresh, though.

SPEAKER_03 (11:27):
I love it.
That's funny.
I appreciate you sharing that.

SPEAKER_05 (11:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (11:31):
Oh man.
That yeah, yeah.
I have a knife, a big one, a biguh military sword right here.
I carry it in my backpack.
Carrying it in my pant leg thewhole trip.
That's not my leg, that's mysword.

SPEAKER_05 (11:46):
Um, well, um you know let me go this time, or are
you just gonna start headingdown the road without doing the
segment everybody is here tohear?

SPEAKER_03 (11:57):
No.
Hold on, relax.
I was gonna ask how you weredoing before we jump into
listener spot.

SPEAKER_05 (12:05):
Just a little jumpy.
Last time you just kind of blewover it and went right into your
thing.
Um you got anxiety?

unknown (12:12):
No.

SPEAKER_05 (12:13):
I'm not worried if the TSA is working next week or
not.
Doesn't matter to me.
Um for your sake, I hope theyare.
No, everything's going well, youknow, school stuff, work stuff.
Uh, you know, the uh governmentshutdown is not affecting my
life at this point in time.

SPEAKER_03 (12:35):
So well, that's good.
That's good.
All right.
Well, in that case, I don't wantyou getting all jumpy over
there.
I just didn't really miss again.
I'm not missing yet.
Listen, I've got the specialvoice on.

unknown (12:51):
Shut up.

SPEAKER_03 (12:52):
Uh, ladies and gentlemen, it is now time for
listener spotlight.

SPEAKER_05 (13:09):
All right, listener spotlight, here are the clues
that I gave you.
It was a stereotypical wild westtown during the last half of the
19th century.
The town is still big withcowboys.
Uh, Native American reservationis partially within the town's
borders.

(13:29):
The Spanish were the firstvisitors to the area.
Gold was discovered in themid-1800s.
The town played an importantrole in the territory it was
located in.
Doc Holliday of Shorral fameenjoyed the company of one of
the town's former residents.

(13:52):
The historical downtown in thiscity would put a big smile on
Adam's face, and presidentialambitions were sparked in this
town.

SPEAKER_03 (14:04):
All right.
So I have some good news.
We get a lot of repeat guesses,and we appreciate all of you.
Thank you for our leisurecommunity.
We have somebody new.

unknown (14:15):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
We have Terry Donaldson from Largo, Florida.
He says, Hey guys, love theshow.
Love the banter between youboth.
Uh, please keep it up.
Keep podcasting, which I don'tknow how he got that, but that's
that's uh guessing that's thatBud Sprout, yeah sprout's uh
logo or something.
Makes me wonder.

(14:38):
Do you have a podcast?
But I mean, um he says uh hisguest is uh Cimarron.
Am I saying that right?
Cimarron, New Mexico?
Cimarron, New Mexico.

SPEAKER_05 (14:49):
If it's yeah, Cimarron, New Mexico.
Oh, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 (14:53):
I've I've got stories about Cimarron, lots of
stories.
Well, the first thing I want toknow is how did Terry do?

SPEAKER_05 (15:02):
Uh I could see where some of these would be
applicable to Cimarron.

SPEAKER_01 (15:06):
However, thank you.

SPEAKER_05 (15:12):
Appreciate it, Terry.
Um, great guests.
I could see where I'm veryfamiliar with Cimarron and I
could see where a lot of thesewould be applicable, but it is
not.
Um you're in the right part ofthe country.
Listener Spotlight uh for thisepisode is Prescott, Arizona.

SPEAKER_03 (15:33):
Now, see, I want to thank all listeners from
Prescott before we even getstarted.
But I am so intrigued why Iwould be happy.
And I'm I want to think ofcoffee.
I want to think it has somethingto do with coffee beans or the
first coffee or or somethingabout roasting beans or some I'm
I'm thinking coffee.

SPEAKER_05 (15:52):
Okay, we'll see if you're right.
Um, it was a Wild West town.
The town is still big withcowboys.
Uh, it hosts the world's oldestrodeo, which has been in
continuous operation since 1888.
And Cimarron, every uh 4th ofJuly, has a very large rodeo.
So um Spanish were the first tovisit the area uh in 1583, and

(16:18):
of course, like all Spanish,they were looking for gold.
Gold was actually discovered in1863.
The town played an importantpart, important role in the
territory it was located in.
The town of Prescott served asthe territorial capital of
Arizona in 1867 before it wasmoved to Tucson, and then served

(16:41):
as a territorial capital in 1877when it was moved back.
I don't know what was going on.
I was like, eh, we want it here,we want it there.
Doc Holliday enjoyed the companyof one of this town's former
residents.
Anyone who's watched a DocHolliday movie, documentary, um,
even Tombstone, excellent movie,by the way, uh would hear or see

(17:06):
him running around with a younglady named Big Nose Kate.
Well, Big Nose Kate was actuallyborn and was from Prescott,
Arizona.
Um presidential ambitions weresparked in this town.
Barry Goldwater, back in 1964,is actually from Prescott, and
he announced his presidential,the start of his presidential

(17:27):
campaign on the uh steps of thePrescott Courthouse.
Um, needless to say, youprobably don't remember
President uh Goldwater becausehe lost out, but hey, good job
for trying.
The historical downtown in thiscity would put a big smile on
Adam's face.
Adam's saying coffee.

(17:50):
You are so close, but just a bitoutside.
The historical downtown area inPrescott, Arizona is known as
Whiskey Row.
Oh man.
Which that was another, I mean,because we just got through

(18:12):
talking about whiskey row in uhLewisburg.
I mean Louisville.

SPEAKER_03 (18:17):
Yeah, Lewis.
So there you go.
Well, thank you, listeners fromPrescott, Arizona.
Thank you, all listeners.
But this time, thank you,listeners from Prescott,
Arizona.

SPEAKER_05 (18:31):
So and and I and I really I think it's cool he
picked uh Cimarron.
I spent uh five summers inCimarron, New Mexico when I was
in college because Cimarron, NewMexico is three miles or two
miles down the road fromPhilmont Scout Ranch.
Oh, okay.
And I worked there for fivesummers.
So needless to say, uh Cimarronwas the biggest town, which

(18:55):
isn't very big.
I don't know.
The population's probably 1,200people, maybe.
Gotcha.
Um, but uh it's beautifulcountry there.
And then if you head furtherfurther west, you go down the
Cimarron Canyon and over toEagle Nest and Taos and all
that.
But gotcha.
I know a lot about Cimarron.

SPEAKER_03 (19:15):
That's pretty cool.

unknown (19:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (19:18):
What else we got?
Well, I I think, I mean, in myopinion, I think we should jump
into uh our weekend inLexington, Lexington, Kentucky.
I'm so sorry.
Lexington, Kentucky, at the uhKentucky Horse Park Campground,
Bourbon Country Burn.
What do you say?

(19:39):
Oh, I see you have a bourbon inyour hand.
I'm sorry.
No, let's go.
All right.
So last time we left you, wetold you of our adventures um at
Peerless Distillery.
Uh we went to the Constitution,uh, the Speakeasy, and then we
uh ended up at camp inLexington, woke up in the

(20:00):
morning on Friday, and we headedto Buffalo Trace.
Of course, why wouldn't we?
Well, I mean, we were there.
I mean, this is like the theMecca.

SPEAKER_05 (20:11):
I mean, we might as well we always do that first
morning that we are in uhLexington, Kentucky.

SPEAKER_03 (20:16):
Absolutely.
Um, you had recently been therewith your family.
You were concerned, you thoughtyou were 14 days out.
So it was 12 days.
I was 12 days short of the 90days that you can get
allocations.
So if anyone's never been thereor you're a new listener, we
know we we can tell by thenumbers we picked up many new

(20:36):
listeners.
So welcome.
Welcome to Road Adventures ofCycling Man of Leisure.
So um, if you don't don'trealize for the longest time, um
Buffalo Trace Distillery had sohypothetically, if you wanted to
go in, you want to buy E.H.
Taylor, and they were selling itthat day, and just for easy
numbers, if you bought it onApril 1st, um, you cannot come

(20:59):
back until September 1st, or youknow, or whatever.
90 days, 90 days out.
So um, so you had been there,you thought you were 12 days,
you were you were watching thewebsite because they have a
Facebook page and apredictability app that you can
see what they think they'regonna be selling a Buffalo
Trace.
We woke up on Friday, it saidthat they were gonna have a

(21:20):
double allocation, and it wasEage, Taylor, and Blanton's.
And on the way there, you wereyou weren't disappointed because
it was being you were stillgonna get to go to a pretty cool
distillery, but you were youwere thinking that you weren't
gonna be able to get the honeyout.

SPEAKER_05 (21:35):
Yeah, I mean, I could I'm still going to Buffalo
Trace and I can still do thetastings and and all that.
And there was a couple otherthings.
Uh my kids needed a couple casesof Freddy's root beer that I had
to pick up and things like that.
So uh wasn't a complete wash,but I was a little disappointed.
But once we got I was I wasthinking it's only 12 days.
It's only 12 days.
Maybe I can sneak by some ladyat the counter will feel sorry

(21:57):
for me and just let it slide.

SPEAKER_03 (22:01):
Well, she did.
She printed you a magic band ora magical band with a barcode or
QR code on it.
She was gonna do that anyway.
Exactly.
But you thought you beat thesystem.
You thought, haha.

SPEAKER_05 (22:16):
Oh man, I was flying.
Well, you got it like a half ablock walk from the from where
you like register, show your ID,and then put a wristband until
you get to the building wherethe uh gift shop is and where
they're selling the dailyallocation.
And I was like going, let'slet's make this happen.
And you were very positive.
It's like, yeah, it's gonnahappen.
I was like, I don't know.
Got in there, we did ourshopping.

(22:37):
Uh, you went up to the registerand got all yours done.
And then I was like, okay, heregoes.
Because if it didn't work, I wasjust gonna play stupid.
It's like, what?
90?
No, it wasn't 90 days, and thenyou know, oh man, I must have
miscounted by a week and a half.

SPEAKER_03 (22:52):
You were gonna flip a chair, start throwing bottles.

SPEAKER_05 (22:56):
Maybe not in there, that could get a little
expensive very quickly.
So I get up there, put it upthere, she rings it in, she's
like, that'll be whatever.
And I was like, Okay, cool.
And so when I got out of thebuilding, I was like, Yes, I
just stuck it to Buffalo Traceand blew their, you know, their
90-day rule out the window, andI was feeling all great, like I

(23:18):
had pulled some great masterheist off or something like
that.
We've just stolen the you know,the crown jewels out of the you
know, Tower of London, and woo.

SPEAKER_03 (23:28):
Um all the while the Cesarek company is going, yes,
he bought some more.

SPEAKER_05 (23:35):
They're like, we got him back, woo.
So to complete this story, wegot back.
Uh, and Padres, the uh thecompany that the thank you, the
charter company that we've usedbefore was there.
So we thought we'd stop in andsay hi and visit with them a
little bit.

(23:55):
And we got over there and we'retalking, and uh it was brought
up that Buffalo Trace had put astop to the 90 days until like
mid-October.
And let me tell you, my ego waslike big, my head was big, and
as soon as they said that, itwas just like the balloon
deflated.

(24:18):
So Michael hadn't got anythingover on Buffalo Trace.
Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (24:24):
But that put the plan in motion.
Now, if you've if you've been toBuffalo Trace Distillery and you
have gone for a bottle release,um, this really tells me, in my
personal opinion, I have noproof of this.
This is just my my thought andyour thought as well, but I'll
let you speak for yourself.
I believe that there might be adownturn in sales of bourbon

(24:47):
because there was not only oneum bottle uh option.
Uh there was not only two, butthere happened to be something
special.
And I've got a little show andtell.
So we were able to get someBlantons.
Love got the little horsey ontop.
Yes, sir.
You can see it says right thereuh August 19th, 2025, for those

(25:12):
of you who are on uh YouTube,and B was the letter for this
one.
We also we were able to pick upsome E.H.
Taylor in the tube.
Very nice.
Small batch.
Actually, I never opened thetube.
This could be just a bottle ofwater.
I never opened it.

SPEAKER_05 (25:30):
So well, there was a bottle of bourbon in there until
I opened it and changed it, butoh, it does look like there's a
bottle of man.
I would if I would have beenthinking about that, because we
were joking about each other,don't steal our bourbon.
If I would have been thinking, Iwould have stuck an empty bottle
in that and sent you home withit, and then that would have
been great.

SPEAKER_03 (25:52):
But something special that we got.
Yes.
We had caught wind that theywere offering for Bourbon
Heritage Month in September,that they were offering special
items each day, and we were ableto get an experimental six-grain
collection.

(26:13):
Uh, there we go.
Nice experimental buffalo trace,and you put it into your app and
it called it a unicorn.

SPEAKER_05 (26:22):
So it did because it's exceptionally rare, so they
classify that as a unicorn find.
So I was happy about that.
Um, yeah, it was really cool.
And what's interesting is when Iwas there in July, they were
doing double draw doubleallocation drops every day, too,

(26:43):
which I thought was interestingbecause we'd been there several
times before and they'd onlydone one.
Um, but they've been doingdouble drops like every day for
a couple of months.
So I would agree with you.
Uh whiskeys are, I think thewhiskey market is, you know, not
selling what they were selling.
Um, so we'll see.

(27:05):
And I know around here, youknow, you were never able to
find Buffalo Trace that often.
Now there's cases of it settingin in Sam's Club or Costco.
Um, there's just been some otherthings that I've seen on the
shelf that I'm like, man, I'venever seen those on the shelves
around here before.
But so yeah, I think there's alittle bit of downturn in it.
I won't get into my reasons whyI think that we'll just we'll

(27:26):
just leave it at that.

SPEAKER_03 (27:27):
That sounds fair.
Um, my mechanic celebrated 20years with my company.
I went to Costco this morning tobuy him a gift card, and I saw
the same thing you did.
I saw the handles or the 1.75liters, boxes and boxes and
boxes of them.
And there was a time about twoyears ago that uh you they were

(27:48):
having lists of uh one percustomer for Buffalo Trace and
all kinds of things and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 (27:54):
If they even had it in stock, right?
You we could not even get itaround here.
I found one bottle in the lasttwo and a half years around here
on a shelf.
That's it.
And I mean, I'm going to bigplaces, little places, all that
kind of stuff.
And quite honestly, for$27, Ibought the bottle.
I didn't need it.
It was just like, eh, you know,I've never been able to buy it.

(28:16):
So it was kind of one of thosethings.
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (28:19):
So with that wristband, not only were we able
to purchase all of our goodstuff, but they have a lot of
tastings at the distillery.
Um, you mentioned Freddy's RootBeer, and one of the cool things
they do is a root beer floatwith the uh Buffalo Trace
bourbon cream and Freddy's RootBeer.
And I really laughed, and Ithought this was funny for the

(28:41):
show because the woman who wasum sampling the or passing out
the samples, I guess you don'tsay sampling, but being the
distributor of the samples, shegave you some instructions.
And I normally you're pretty,you're pretty, you know, you're
pretty low-key, and you're like,okay.
This time she said, I want youto take a little sip of the root
beer and a little sip of thecream, and then I want you to

(29:03):
make sure you mix the the theroot beer on the bottom and pour
the cream over.
And I looked over and you justwent, mix together, slam.
And I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (29:14):
You know, I know the root beer's good.
I buy cases of that root beer,and I know the cream's good
because my wife loves it, and Ihave some had some in the
refrigerator all the time,pretty much.
Um, so I was like, I don't needto do the individual.
I just I want the root beerfloat.

SPEAKER_03 (29:31):
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
But we did go upstairs.
Um last time I was there, thisthey didn't have this that I
know of.

SPEAKER_05 (29:39):
If it is of the tastings upstairs, they did not,
and they they started thosebecause if you go on a tour, you
get a tasting.
If you don't do a tour, then youdon't get a tasting of like
their standard things.
So they've set up little tastingbooths up there where they give
you a little history and thenthey do tastings for that
purpose of the people who don'tdo the tour.

(30:00):
So that's where that came from.

SPEAKER_03 (30:02):
Gotcha.
Well, they were tasting umWeller 12, but we thought I I I
thought, anyways, maybe youdidn't, maybe you knew, but um,
I thought that we were justgonna go up and scan our
wristband and get Weller 12.
To my surprise, they had EagleRare, Blanton's, Wellard 12, and
Buffalo Trace just by itself.

(30:22):
And so we got we got the fourtastings there.

SPEAKER_05 (30:25):
Um, and so then they topped it off with uh a bourbon
ball from uh Ruth uh Ruth'sCandy's Ruth.
I can never remember the lastname, Candy.

SPEAKER_03 (30:36):
Yep.
Um we do have a clip from there,but before we play that, I
thought something else coolhappened there.
So if you've ever seen theprogram Neat, um it's got
Freddie Johnson, talks about hisdad, it's got Castle and Key,
it's got the history of bourbonand and and the corn and and and

(30:57):
you know it's a very feel-goodtype of show or um a lot of
history.
In that program, Neat, um, ifyou haven't seen it, I highly
recommend it.
Um great show.
They roll off the six millionthbarrel, and in there, um,
Freddie Johnson gets a bottle,Freddie Johnson III gets a

(31:18):
bottle of papies from hisfather, who unfortunately has
passed.
Um, but his father gives it tohim in there.
The one part I'll say is he wasgonna pour a little bit of the
papies and put the cork on.
And his father said, What areyou doing?
And and he said, What do youmean?
And his son said, What do youmean?
And he said, We're gonna sharethe bottle.

(31:41):
And and it's kind of like amoment that raises the hair on
your arms because he shares abottle of papies with his
brother and his dad.
And I don't want to say howlong, but within a few months,
his dad and his brother are bothpassed away.
Um, and that's a memory.
And so it's it's just afeel-good kind of thing.
But in that show, they roll outthe six millionth barrel.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, themen of leisure got to sign the

(32:04):
nine millionth barrel, and I'mgonna try to do this for our
YouTube people.
We got a token, it's like a uhpoker chip, a poker chip for the
nine millionth barrel of BuffaloTrace.
Look at that.
It is cool.
That's pretty cool.
That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_05 (32:24):
So that was something that we got, and we
also they had the barrel settingthere, you got to sign your name
on it.
So our name, in Cycling Men ofLeisure, is on the 900th or the
nine millionth barrel.
That's been released by BuffaloTrace since the end of Pro Bish.

SPEAKER_03 (32:42):
That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_05 (32:43):
Yes.
So you know what's even cooler?
What's that?
Right now there is what 1.7million uh barrels of whiskey
setting on Buffalo Trace'sproperty.
Wow.
That's not even all of thembecause they've got some at

(33:04):
another Rick House.
But um I think it'd be neat.
Say maybe after Thanksgivingwhen we need or after uh
Halloween or something, we've wewe have some clips maybe that we
can pull off a thing withFreddie that would be kind of
cool to share with him, whichtalks about kind of what you're
getting into the sharing and uhhow whiskey creates memories.

(33:26):
So yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (33:27):
I that that's that's a great idea.
Um so we uh our first ever livespot, you know.
We you know, we started thisshow in the studio, and and you
know, we we've had multipledifferent sets of equipment and
and we finally have thingscomfort like we like it.

(33:47):
Um but we had our first on-siterecording at Buffalo Trace
Distillery in 23, I think, 2023.
Yes.
And and uh so I brought the samerecorder, and you and I did a
spot, and I was gonna play thatfrom right now.
We did a spot in the exact samespot.

(34:11):
Well, here we are.
Yes, sorry about that.
Uh we we did uh we did a littleclip from the same exact spot
that we were two years ago.
So here we go.
Well, here we are.
Uh we are at Buffalo Trace.
This this this brings backmemories.
The first time that you and Idid an off-site recording, we
were standing in this very spot.

SPEAKER_05 (34:33):
This exact spot here on Buffalo Trace property,
looking at uh Rick HouseBuilding C.

SPEAKER_03 (34:40):
Well, you can't go wrong with uh Rick House
Building C or the water towerbehind it, uh watching people
watching people going to thegift shop.
Now, you and I already did thegift shop.
We were lucky, we got Blanton'sE.H.
Taylor.

SPEAKER_05 (34:52):
Double double allocation day.
And triple.
Oh, well, that wasn't even anallocation, that was a special
drop.

SPEAKER_03 (34:58):
An experimental six-grain buffalo trace.
So we were able to be reallylucky this morning.
Uh, we're gonna head back andactually saddle up and and go
out on a bike ride.
While we're riding, we gotta oh,that's that's the reason why
we're here is to ride a bicycle.
Okay, we kept giving injuryupdates.
You said you were willing to go,and so we are we are gonna we're
gonna give it a rip.

(35:19):
But uh we'll we'll make sure nohoses are involved.

SPEAKER_05 (35:22):
Keep me as far away from the hoses as possible
because hoses and I don't reallywork very well together.

SPEAKER_03 (35:28):
I'm not gonna lie, I'm gonna need a coffee before
we do that, but uh we'll make itwork.
Uh really cool experience here.
If you've never been to BuffaloTrace, uh they got a really
slick system, you wait out linein line depending on the on the
supply and demand.
Today was a little bit morebecause of the experimental
bottle.
Which we did not know about.
No, it was a surprise.
Um, but they got us through,they had plenty of supply, and

(35:50):
then they had uh tastings, andwe got to try Weller 12.

SPEAKER_05 (35:54):
Yeah, it it's apparently Bourbon Heritage
Month.
And um, for those of you whodon't know, they used to just
used to do the tours, and thenyou at the end of the tour you
do tasting, but now they've setup stations where you can
upstairs where you can dotastings even if you don't do
the tour.
Yeah, and typically most monthsit's just you know, they're kind
of their standard four, and theysometimes throw in like Freddy's
root beer.

(36:15):
But um with this special monththat they've got going on,
they're bringing in some of thestuff that you don't normally
find.
Like today we had Blanton's andwe had uh Weller's 12-year.
Um, they have stag out there,they put in the Eagle Rare
12-year, things like that.
So because it's this month,they're throwing in some
interesting things that youwouldn't normally have on a on a
Buffalo Trace Tasting.

SPEAKER_03 (36:35):
And only because my wife listens to the show now, we
were traveling on her birthday.
Of course, Bourbon Month wouldbe special, just the same month
as her birthday.
Of course.
But yeah, I mean so we startedour trip.
We met in Louisville.
Um, this might be a little bitrepetitive, depending on on how
we record the show when we putit all together.
But we met in Louisville.
We went to uh you had umsomehow, I don't know, you have

(36:57):
wicked ways of the world.
You you were able to have tourtickets for uh peerless.
Yep.
And we were able to do that andwith some good tasting.
And uh my favorite was thetoasted uh peerless.
So uh that that was pretty good.
If I wasn't saving my allowancemoney for for Buffalo Trace
today, I would have picked thatup.
I might have to uh procure abottle of it.

SPEAKER_05 (37:16):
I I will disagree with you on on that point, but
we'll we'll we'll discuss thatlater.

SPEAKER_03 (37:20):
Of course, I don't have my sensor button here in
the public.

SPEAKER_05 (37:23):
So the other cool thing is uh on the up on the on
one of our episodes, we willtalk about uh we got to meet
another member of the um BourbonHall of Fame or the Kentucky
Hall of Whiskey Hall of Fame.
That's pretty cool.
Which was which was really cool,so that'll be interesting.

SPEAKER_03 (37:39):
Corky Taylor.
So came in.
That was amazing.
So his stories from everythingthat he had to offer was just
amazing, pretty cool to see.

SPEAKER_05 (37:48):
And he he went to school with some very famous
people that most you know mostof us would know.
So that's gonna be a greatsegment when we get around to
it.

SPEAKER_03 (37:56):
See, as a guy who went to military school, I
definitely love the story.
So uh, but yeah, so we are uhagain camping at the Kentucky
Horse Park Campground.
Uh the weather looks beautiful.

SPEAKER_05 (38:08):
It rained yesterday, but today, bright and sunny.
Uh, it'll be nice to get on thebike uh this afternoon and put
in a few miles.

SPEAKER_03 (38:14):
Flew the drone this morning, very foggy, but got
some really interesting footage.

SPEAKER_05 (38:18):
So you need to put those on our on our site because
uh you got the sunset above thefog.

SPEAKER_03 (38:23):
Yep.
Beautiful.
Definitely cool.
So uh so yeah, we're we're wejust wanted to have a little uh
spot here from Buffalo Trace.
Um, we will definitely give ussome spots later today.
Uh, we do have uh double sets ofremote microphones, so we hope
to have some more footage foryou.
So uh a couple of you havewritten in saying more footage
from the road, more footage outin the area.

(38:44):
We're listening.
Uh listeners, we are listening.
And remember, today is a greatday for a bike ride.
Well, look at that.

SPEAKER_05 (38:53):
Look, we sound professional, buddy.
We do.
You know, I mean, we're outside,so you got a little wind going,
but not not bad.
It was uh it was fun to revisitthat.

SPEAKER_03 (39:04):
So, anyways, we got back to camp.
Um, and uh buddy, we we got todo something we haven't done
together in many months.
We went on on a bike ride.
We rode.
You know, this is a podcastabout cycling.

SPEAKER_05 (39:21):
Uh we would have we would have been riding sooner if
it hadn't been for, you know, afractured clavicle.

SPEAKER_03 (39:28):
That's all right, buddy.
That's all right.
Um but man, Kentucky's gotbeautiful roads.
I mean, it's just weather'sweather was awesome.
Um we we uh we got to go we'vebeen on the roads before, I
think.
I think after looking at theStrava, everything, every road
we were on, we were on before,or um uh or very, very

(39:52):
reminiscent of very close.
There were a couple things thatwe both remembered and noticed,
but um one thing I noticed aboutboth of us since we've been uh
working out, becoming morehealthy, or trying to have
longevity, both of us uh didn'thave any didn't have any issues
with some of them hills like wenormally would.

SPEAKER_05 (40:08):
So no, and you know what?
I was very impressed because Ihaven't been on a bike.
You've been on a bike, I think,once since Bragg.
Um we were doing okay.
I mean, we were huffing down ata decent uh miles per hour, and
uh there was some hills, and wewere getting up those hills just
fine.
So uh yeah, kudos to us.

SPEAKER_03 (40:30):
Yeah, it was fun, it was fun getting out on the bike.
Um, just looking through mynotes here.
Uh Bourbon Country Burn um hasdinner provided on Friday and
Saturday.
Not gonna lie, uh dinner wasn'tbad, but there wasn't a lot of
it.

SPEAKER_05 (40:50):
And so it's it they cater it.
And it's I mean, I don't carewhat you do to catered food.
I used to work for a cateringcompany back in the day, I was
bartending, but um catered foodis catered food.
I mean, it's it's it wasn't bad,but for uh if you know there
wasn't big portions, so it wasone of those things that we were

(41:11):
like, okay, we ate that, andthen it's like let's go get us
some more food.
So we ran and got some more foodbecause just wasn't doing it.
No, sir, wasn't but then we cameback and got to enjoy the the
tasting and the fires and allthat kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 (41:28):
No, that was good.
Good.
Um now we had talked about onour show before that um it was
it was portrayed via email thatthis was probably gonna be the
last year of bourbon burn.
And so one of the reasons thatyou and I decided to make this
our our last trip of the year umwas because hey, it might not

(41:52):
happen.
Um we our show is about leisureand we talk about bourbon and
cigars, and we thought this isup our alley.

SPEAKER_05 (41:59):
Now I thought you weren't gonna get into rants of
dissatisfaction.
I'm not because you're openingup a can of rants for me here.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Maybe we should maybe we shouldmove forward.
Oh, but you've started it.
No, you continue, but I'm justsaying.

SPEAKER_03 (42:18):
I was just gonna say how the ride director stood up
and and and we listened to uhgentlemen talk about how how we
started and where it's gone, andhe doesn't know where it's gonna
go.
And then this morning.

SPEAKER_05 (42:33):
Oh then this morning there's an email coming out
saying, hey, join us for the2026 Bourbon Country Burn.
And at when Austin was up theretalking about the ride and he
hopes it continues, and they'relooking at some people to take
it over, you're not gonna tellme they found somebody to take
over the ride in three days.
So I feel a little bit taken inthat maybe they were, you know,

(43:01):
working it to get more peoplethere.
And if they weren't, Iapologize.
But just looking at, oh yeah, weneed, and then all of a sudden,
three days after the event, it'slike boom, we're having it,
we're gonna do it, you know.
Be ready to register on thisdate.
So to me, they were ready to go.
They knew that they were gonnahave it at the thing, they just

(43:22):
didn't wake up the other morningand go, Oh, I guess we'll go
ahead and do this.
I feel like I was taken.

SPEAKER_03 (43:30):
You're not alone.
They ran a long con on me.
On us.
When I read it, read it to mywife, Lauren.
She said, What?
I thought this was the end.
What's going on?
And so even somebody whodoesn't, you know, hasn't
partaken and doesn't, you know,she doesn't like to camp, but
um, you know, she was evengoing, What's going on?
I said, I don't know.
It kind of feels to me like alittle bit of a bait and switch.

(43:52):
So um but nevertheless, we stillhad a good time.
Um just got in my notes.
We just did some tastings,blueberry, uh, Castle and Key.

SPEAKER_05 (44:05):
Um that's pretty much um and then we went back to
the campsite and had a littlefireside chat.
Started a fire and had somemore, and we had a little
fireside chat, um, which we Ithink we'll play for you here in

(44:25):
a minute, but uh we're just alaid back uh evening, didn't run
too late.

SPEAKER_03 (44:32):
So give me a second here.
All right, here we go.
Well, here we are, sir.
We're by the fireside for acyclement of leisure fireside
chat.

SPEAKER_05 (44:44):
Very nice.
That's very 1940s.
That's cool.
I like it.

SPEAKER_03 (44:48):
Well, it is uh right up our right up our sleeve.
That's right.

SPEAKER_05 (44:54):
Uh you know, like old Roosevelt.
Oh, yeah.
Teddy used to do those firesidechats back in the day.
So but no, we've got the firegoing.
Um completed our first day justsitting out here enjoying the uh
the great outdoors, a cigar,believe it or not, a little
bourbon.
Kind of nice.
We're having bourbon.
Well, I'm having bourbon.

(45:15):
I don't know about you.

SPEAKER_03 (45:17):
Of course I'm having bourbon.

SPEAKER_05 (45:20):
So how'd how'd you like today?

SPEAKER_03 (45:21):
Good, good.
We did the uh what they calledthe 24 mile route.
Well, actually they called it a21.8.
We were concerned about yourshoulder.
A couple spots kind of causedyou a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 (45:31):
Yeah, there was there was a couple of bumps uh
that I didn't see coming, so Ididn't have my arm in the right
place.
I felt it a little bit, but umwasn't enough to keep keep me
from continuing.
So uh and we were able to hit abrewery today.
That was kind of cool.

SPEAKER_03 (45:47):
And on that brewery we we saw Stephanie from Bragg.
Yes, and and uh we met herbetter half, so that was really
cool.
Um and and her better half'sbrother.

SPEAKER_05 (45:58):
So um, yeah, so it was it was nice.
Uh touched touch space with herand uh enjoyed uh a new uh a new
brew.
What was it called?
Um it was uh Amber Ale from WestWest Six Brewing.
West Six Brewing, yep.
And that's actually right nextdoor to Broke Spoke.
Unfortunately, they're not opentoday, so we couldn't stop in

(46:20):
and say hi, but he's been on ourshow before.

SPEAKER_03 (46:23):
But we did meet somebody who plays Bike Polo,
who knew Luke Box, who was onour show before, and and we'll
put that link in the show.

SPEAKER_05 (46:31):
Yeah, we had a really neat experience, and
we're not gonna get into ithere, but we had a really neat
experience at a old stylespeakeasy.
Really cool.
The building has a lot ofhistory.
Uh, one of the young ladies thatbartended there um knew Luke and
plays polo, bicycle polo.
And what's interesting is acouple years ago, we actually by

(46:52):
accident went by where theyplayed this and we stopped and
watched them for a little bit.
It's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 (46:58):
Definitely had a definitely had a good time
today.

SPEAKER_05 (47:00):
Uh weather was perfect, and uh we got we got to
hit a distillery too, so um uhuh that was nice.
A little uh some allocated and aspecial drop, so that's always
fun.

SPEAKER_03 (47:12):
And we got tastings here uh at the Bourbon Country
Burn.
We did.

SPEAKER_05 (47:16):
Um some of them, I know why I'm not opening the
bottle by I was I was giving himgiving him crap about uh he owns
the bottle because he had boughtit a couple years ago here,
hadn't opened it and was tryingit.
And one of them was a littlelittle harsh.
Maybe it needs to go back in thebarrel and age a little more.

SPEAKER_03 (47:35):
I always tell my friends, uh we'll uh uncork it,
re-cork it, let it oxidize, andmaybe it'll have a different
flavor palette next time I openit.

SPEAKER_05 (47:44):
So you can get you one of those little barrels that
they, you know, you can age yourown white dog in and pour it
back in there for a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 (47:51):
Or the thing we saw at Jay Mattingly today, which
was the the mason jar with apiece of char.

SPEAKER_04 (47:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (47:58):
We stopped at J.
Mattingly, which is the oldBourbon 30.
Uh they moved uh very nicefacility, and they have a mason
jar with a chunk of like charredwhite oak, I'm assuming.
And you pour your stuff in thereand you can see how it you know
changes the color and you canage it, and that might be
interesting to try as anexperiment.

SPEAKER_03 (48:19):
It would be interesting.
And it kind of gave me an idea.
I'm like, why would I pay youfor a mason jar when I have a
stave at home?

SPEAKER_05 (48:27):
Uh well they uh they're using staves down here
as table decorations for the 65tables that they've got in the
dining area over there.
You could just take one of thoseand start cutting it.
Cutting it up.

SPEAKER_03 (48:37):
I got a circular saw in the garage.

SPEAKER_05 (48:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (48:40):
Mix that with a little uh uh masonite that I cut
the last time.

SPEAKER_05 (48:44):
Now I'm wondering, what if you took the stave and
the mason jar and you pouredlike say vodka in there?

SPEAKER_03 (48:50):
I don't think it would do it, but I think it has
to be like alcohol, like whitedog.

SPEAKER_05 (48:54):
Wouldn't work with with like vodka or anything.

SPEAKER_03 (48:57):
Yeah, it might.
We could try it.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 (48:59):
I mean it is we could do science experiments.

SPEAKER_03 (49:01):
It would be a fun to do experiment, but uh tomorrow
it might if it unless it turnsout bad, and then it might not
be a good experiment.
But what are we doing tomorrow?
Well then they'll just bottlethat up and call it
experimental.
Yeah, and sell it.
Uh tomorrow we're doing uh abouta 30-mile ride.
Uh you've you've agreed withyour shoulder.
You think you can you can pullthat off, and uh we'll be uh

(49:23):
we'll be doing that.

SPEAKER_05 (49:24):
So yeah, uh, don't want to push it too much, but uh
we will certainly uh uh givethat a whirl and and see what we
can come up with.
Sounds good.
Um should be fun.
Uh tomorrow will definitely be agreat day for a bike ride.
Well, look at that.
So um what's cool is you couldtell we were really by the fire
because if you listen, you couldhear the fire popping and the

(49:46):
crickets were going crazy.
So that was not like soundeffects, so it's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_03 (49:54):
Uh next day we went to Town Branch and continuing
our show until, sir, I have abottle of Town Branch single
barrel reserve bourbon.
Interesting thing about thisbottle, if you're watching on
YouTube, it has a clear lid,clear clear lid.

(50:14):
And the idea was is that youcould use the bottle for a
decanter for any spirit when youwere done, which I thought was
really neat.
But uh bartenders hate thebottle because it's a square,
clunky bottle.

SPEAKER_05 (50:26):
You can't speed pour it.
But um, so that basically then II didn't think about it until
you just said it.
So that's a screw-on or screwoff lid.
I don't know.
It's not corked.
I haven't opened it yet.
But I mean it has to be becausethe way it's designed.
Probably, yeah.
But uh that was an interestingtour.

(50:46):
Um before we rode, we decided toto go over there.
We took a tour.
Um, one of the guys that uh we'dwe uh have ridden with several
years in Georgia had said thathe did it, so we thought we'd go
over it was Aaron Lexington.
I'm still perplexed by that onethough.
It's a brewery and a distillery,but I don't know.

(51:11):
It didn't convince me that therewas any brewing or distilling
actually going on at thatlocation.

SPEAKER_03 (51:18):
I I you know if you had like a black helicopter
conspiracy moment, I woulddefinitely throw the flag, but I
can't because I have to agreewith you.
First of all, um you'd sign upfor the tour and then you check
in, and then they all have youwait in the in the gift shop.
And then Austin, who was ourtour guide, said, Okay, we're

(51:40):
guys gonna meet outside, we'regonna go through the orange
door.

SPEAKER_05 (51:42):
And I thought he said we're going to go to the
shady orange door, which rightthere was like, I don't know if
I want to go hang out at theshady orange door.

SPEAKER_03 (51:53):
You are right, I apologize.
And and so then as we satoutside the door, he gave us
some history of the company andand what they own and what they
make, and and and I said, Okay.
And so um they have the KentuckyBourbon Barrel Ale.
And I'm I'm most of you haveprobably had that or seen it.
It's a very strong 8.4 uh APVbeer.

(52:16):
Uh it's beer that's aged inbourbon barrel, and really
tasty.
It's very tasty beer.
And and so we were both kind ofexcited, and then we walked
through the door, and and thatwas my first indication that
something something was amiss.
There was nobody working, thethere were stainless steel,
large tanks, and but then in thebackground, but that was the

(52:40):
only thing on the floor, though.

SPEAKER_05 (52:42):
Yeah, it was something along that wall, and
the tanks over here, and therewas nothing anywhere else.
There was no pallets, there wasno barrels, there was no
bottles, there was no beer.
I mean, we've been on the floorsof lots of distilleries and lots
of breweries, and I mean it wasjust completely spotless.

SPEAKER_03 (53:01):
It's something something was amiss.
And then as the tour guide wastalking, he said, uh, oh uh we
and we we outgrew this facility,and we now, if you notice on our
bottles, it now says that it'sbrewed and and bottled uh in in
Grand Rapids, Michigan.

(53:22):
And my brain went to in 2019,Founders is a is a nice brewery,
and it was opened by twobrothers, and it became very
controversial because bothbrothers sold uh they both owned
at 50-50 and they both sold 45%,they both retained 5% or 10% of
the company together, and 90%went to a South American uh

(53:46):
country, and then so there waslike everyone was like, Oh man,
this was like so homegrown.
Yeah, they sold out and and theysold, and then and I understand
it's all about the the almightydollar in the end, or maybe the
brothers got tired of it, Idon't know.
But as Austin was talking, Isaid, Wow, I'm like, they make
they make the bourbon barrel aleuh there?

(54:07):
Does that mean that you guys areowned by South America?
And he had no clue, and then I Iopened up Chat GPT and I showed
him, I said, This is what I'mtalking about.
He was he said, you know what,that's just above my pay grade.
And I appreciate his honesty,don't get me wrong, but it just
made me wonder is there somesort of you know agreement or
whatever?
Um, but I have to agree.
I don't think that I don't thinkthey were making anything there.

SPEAKER_05 (54:28):
And here's the thing if they're distilling their
whiskey there and they're usingthe barrels, so that means
you're going to take thosebarrels, empty barrels, haul
them all the way to GrandRapids, Michigan, to use them in
your beer.
That just does not seem like auh smart financial financial
thing that you're hauling thesebeer barrels now over there.

SPEAKER_03 (54:50):
Yeah.
And then I I was talking to youand I said, okay, I don't
understand something.
I mean, you and I have done somany bourbon uh tours, and the
history fascinates both of us,you know, the four conditions in
Kentucky, which is expansioncontraction.
Um, hate to give away the secrethere, but if you don't

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understand how bourbon gets itscolor, it's because they use a
charred oak barrel, it has to benew.
And then the the environment,the humidity, uh, the heat from
expansion, and then the coldfrom contraction sucks in the
white dog, expels the white dogback and forth, back and forth,
and that's how whiskey gets itsbrown color.

(55:33):
Um, and and I was wondering ifthey make it in Founders, and we
don't have the same fourseasons, we have construction
and winter here.
Um and then uh and he said, No,it doesn't make a difference
because all the beer is aged ina cooler.
And so I was like, okay, I kindof gave away a little bit of the

(55:55):
magic.
And then I thought the samething you did, which is okay, if
the beer is is aged in a coolerand they're making a mother load
of it, there's not enough whisk,there's not enough of the town
branch.
Uh are we using MGT?
I mean, I don't know.
It's just like something that'sthe math doesn't add up.
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (56:16):
Then they took us to a little bar there, and when
they gave us like four tickets,and we could use it on beer or
or liquor or whatever, you know,beer or whiskey.
And so we tried there, and thenwe went across the street, which
is where they have theirdistilling.
That did not change my mindeither, because you walk in and
they got these big, they got tworacks of big barrels as you're

(56:37):
walking in.
Right.
Uh, and then along the wall,they've got the stainless steel
stuff.
Everything is super, I mean,there wasn't pallet again.
How many times have we been tothese things where, you know,
they've got a stack of palletsover here, or here's a pallet
that's full of bottles, orhere's a pallet full of empty
barrels, or something, nothing.

(56:59):
And then you go into the nextroom, which is where their
tasting room is, whichapparently is also their
distilling room because they hadthe the big mash barrels, and
then they had their actualdouble uh pot stills.

SPEAKER_02 (57:11):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (57:12):
But so when you run this liquor, you're not having
tours because then they would belike literally between the the
cooking pots and your stills, itjust did not make any sense.
And I did not see anywhere wherethere could have bottling
facilities, where the barrel'sstored at.

(57:35):
And they did say that they don'tdo their own rick housing, that
their rick houses that they rentspace from Castle and Key, which
totally made sense, right?
But it was just there just didnot look like they clearly were
not doing any production, theydidn't have anything in the in
the cooking barrels or anythinglike that other than water.
I'm just like, how much of thisare you actually producing here?

SPEAKER_03 (57:57):
Yeah, it was something weird.

SPEAKER_05 (57:59):
It was numbers didn't add up with how much you
say you're producing, uh, howmany barrels you need for your
beer all the way up in Michigan,and the size of your facility
here for distilling uh yeah, I'mnot good at math, but that math
was not coming close.
So I don't know what they'redoing.

(58:21):
It was almost it reminded me alot of Sharptop.
Yeah in Georgia.
We went to Sharp Top in Georgia,and it's a small moonshine uh
place.
I don't remember which town itwas in, but one of our overnight
towns, and we talked about it.
They had what, a 50-gallonstill?
Yeah, they had a 50-gallon stillin the corner, and then they had

(58:41):
this huge production in the backof barrel and there.
They had barrels.
I mean, it looked like they wereactually they had barrels uh,
you know, stacked up there andall this kind of stuff.
And they were like, Yeah, we wemake all of our whiskey right
here on this little 50, youknow, 50 gallon thing.
It's like there is no way you'dhave to run that still 24 hours

(59:03):
a day, seven days a week, to beproducing what you're saying
you're producing.
And the still wasn't running,and it's right there on the
floor, you know, right therenext to your bar that you're
having people come.
Yeah, they're uh they're runningmoonshine from somewhere, making
accusations.
It's just my opinion, but theyjust don't add up.

SPEAKER_03 (59:24):
That's a great thing about a podcast, you buddy.
You can say whatever you want.
So uh sure.

SPEAKER_05 (59:30):
I don't like to make accusations.
I'm just saying from somebodywho knows who's got a very a
relatively good understanding ofthe the whiskey in the bourbon
world that I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (59:43):
I agree with him.
You're not wrong.
Something wasn't something wasuh something wasn't right, but
um we did have a nice oldfashioned there, so that was
good.

SPEAKER_05 (59:53):
It was a very good old-fashioned gift shop, it was
beautiful.
Um, yeah, I mean it was a niceplace.
I enjoyed the tour.
Uh, I enjoyed the samples that Igot.
That they gave us a specialsample of their coffee liqueur,
yeah.
Where they would put boiling hotwater, they would add the coffee
liqueur, and then they would umlayer cream on top of it.

(01:00:16):
And it's like a hot coffeedrink.
Oh my god, that was incredible.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:20):
So when I was driving home, I thought about
something.
Because you were nice enough tobuy your wife some of the coffee
liqueur, you also bought yourwife some of the bourbon cream
at Buffalo Trace.
Would it have been sacrilegiousto pour hot water, pour the
coffee uh liqueur from TownBranch, and then on top use the

(01:00:42):
Buffalo Trace cream?

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:45):
Um, yes, it would.
Freddie Johnson right now iscussing you, and he doesn't know
why, but he is.
No, um, because the BuffaloTrace liqueur, um the other
stuff from Town Branch wasactually coffee flavored.

(01:01:05):
The other stuff isn't.
No, I know, but I mean you get abuffalo trace.
So that that's really thedifference.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:10):
But as we sampled it, it was the coffee in the hot
water, as you mentioned, andthen he took just your everyday
cream and put on top.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:18):
Oh, you're saying okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:20):
I'm saying put the town branch uh coffee coffee
liqueur in the bottom and thentake the buffalo trees trace
cream on top.
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:29):
I thought you were saying let's make a root beer
float out of the coffee.
Okay.
Um no, I I don't think that'shas any issues at all.
I think that just might make itbetter.
Oh yeah.
As long as you cold it, becausethe big thing was is the
temperature difference becauseyou had the really ice cold
cream, and then you hit the hotcoffee, and that it had a really
but you could do it.

(01:01:50):
You're right.
I'm gonna I've got both of them.
I'm gonna try it.
I'll let you know.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:54):
I appreciate it.
I I can't wait.
So getting down the road.
Uh speaking of getting down theroad, we went out for a bike
ride, 30 miles, uh, give or takea mile or two.
Um that was a that was abeautiful ride.
That was awesome.
Uh uh, not a lot of wind.
Um, great, great uh you knowwhat the fall colors had not

(01:02:15):
changed yet.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:16):
We had not changed, so we just had the green.
We've been out there when thewhen they've been changing, but
they hadn't started.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:22):
Um big highlight of the night, sir.
Freddie Johnson.
Freddie Johnson, yes, um youknow, he was gonna give his
presentation, and you, sir, gotsomething really cool.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:37):
Oh my god.
Got.
So we go to the VIP tasting withFreddie Johnson, and he's always
great to listen to.
And he's not one of those peoplethat just does a canned
presentation.
Every presentation he does isdifferent.
We've never heard the same.
A lot of times the same, there'sthe similar messages in there
and that kind of thing, butthey're not the same
presentations.
Um, always good.

(01:02:59):
He's always extremely generouswith his time afterwards on
signing his Freddy's root beerand things like that.
And I had been there, like Isaid, in July, and I had bought
a barrelhead, buffalo trace,Blanton's barrel head.

(01:03:19):
Um, wasn't planning on buyingone, but basically what happened
is I was standing there gettingmy stuff, and they this lady
rolls it out and they go, We'vegot buffalo trace, blanton's
barrel heads, we're gonna putthem on sale.
And so I was like, okay.
Um I decided to get one.

(01:03:41):
I needed an excuse, I guess, tokind of get one.
So I told my wife, it's like,I've got a plan for this.
She's always like, What are yougonna do with that?
I've got a plan for this.
My plan was is to take this withus when we went to the VIP
tasting.
And at that time we didn't knowFreddie was gonna be there, uh,
and have him sign it.
I didn't know whether he wasgonna sign it.

(01:04:01):
I didn't even know he was gonnabe there at the time because
they hadn't announced, but hewas there.
I carried this thing around toall my tastings.
And for those of you who are onthe uh YouTube, there it is, the
Plankton's barrel top.
And if you look right there,it's signed by Freddie Johnson,

(01:04:22):
third generation.
So I'm gonna take this barrelhead signed by Freddie Johnson,
who's in the Whiskey Hall ofFame.
And Selkie EBay.
No, no, no.
Uh he's in the Kentucky uhWhiskey Hall of Fame, and he
just recently has been inductedinto the World Whiskey Hall of
Fame, which is over in Ireland.
Uh, I'm putting that up near mybar, but I I was like, Freddie,

(01:04:46):
I got a I got a big favor toask.
I bought this barrel head fromBuffalo Trace.
Would you sign it for me?
He didn't even didn't even thinkabout it.
He goes, I'd be honored to.
Grabbed it and started signingit for me.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:59):
And while you're setting that down, I have to say
that um a few times from doingthis show, um, you know, we do
have the right to get mediapasses for things.
Um, you know, they're openingthe world is opening up more and
more to podcasting.
Um, and we felt likecelebrities, but this time we
kind of felt like a little bitof a celebrity because Phil
Collin from Phil Talks Whiskey,um, he looked at Freddie and

(01:05:22):
said, These guys are good guys,these guys are good guys.
And and I think that probablyhelped you out a little bit too.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:28):
So yeah, I think he would have done it anyway, but
certainly couldn't hurt.
Um it was just a great, it'salways a great experience, and
he takes he's we got pictureswith him and that type of thing.
And then after that, it wasfollowed up by a friend of ours,
Phil, on Phil Talks Whiskey.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:50):
For sure.
He had some international pours,um, and he had Japanese
blantons, which I was excitedabout.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:59):
I I kind of, in fact, I told you it's like,
well, there's gonna be Japaneseblantons there.
I didn't know what else he wasgonna bring to the table, but he
talked about whiskeys that thethe Kentucky distillers make,
but they're making them only forexport to other countries.
They had the Japanese blantons,uh, they had a uh Four Roses

(01:06:20):
that is just for Japan.
Japan is a big whiskey market.
Um, I really liked it.
The first bottle he pulled outwas not an uh international
bottle, but it was a Phil Toxwhiskey bottle pick that he had
done, which was fun.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:39):
That was neat, but um no better way of sharing your
story by going, here, have onewith my fix my pace, my face and
picture on the side.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:47):
But um, Phil is a great guy, he knows he knows
everybody in the whiskeybusiness pretty much, and he has
been in the whiskey business forso long, he knows the stories
and that type of thing.
And uh, we've did a littletalking to him, and I think uh
here in the next couple monthswe might get him on to uh to
talk to us a little about he'sbeen on the show before, but

(01:07:08):
maybe get on and talk to us alittle bit about what's new in
the whiskey world and uh maybegive us uh a bottle
recommendation that uh we couldtry out.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:18):
Now that's pretty cool.
Um that's that's oh the onething I want to mention for sure
is uh Michael and Ben.
Michael and Ben sat next to us,and then uh they came back to
the leisure uh campground, andwe got to enjoy their company uh
for the evening and just wantedto say how how nice it was

(01:07:41):
sitting sitting with those guysand chatting with those guys.
And um, you know, he was umtelling us that it's our fault,
or he's happy to share that uhwe helped him get in his
bourbon.
Um, but he was actually verysincere about you know mirroring
our stories of of you know, it'snot just about the whiskey, it's
not just about the bourbon, butit's about sharing it and the

(01:08:03):
experiences kind of kind of thesame thing as Freddie.
And uh Michael was saying thathe had the same thing with his
son, which is awesome to hear.
And so I just want to thank bothof those guys for spending time
with us that evening.

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:14):
So we also spent time with another one of our
fans at the Buffalo Tracetasting.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:22):
And that was John.
Um John from Bragg, and and uhgot to got to see him a couple
times.
He came back to the campgroundas well.
So um everybody was awesome tosee.
Um scrolling through my noteshere, and we did something on
Sunday that uh that we normallydon't do.

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:44):
Uh we ate Arby's.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:47):
We always hated Arby's.

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:48):
Uh well, we hated Arby's.
We weren't thrown out of a redlobster.
Um close.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:55):
Close.
We we told everybody we weren'tgonna go on a bike ride on
Sunday, but the weather was sonice.
We were such in the mood for it.
We said, okay, it'll push usback a little bit.
Now I have a feeling that it youdidn't think it was gonna push
you back as much as it actuallyit did push you back.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:15):
But yeah, and the uh lady at the campground wasn't
too thrilled with us because weran over on our checkout time,
but uh we got I think what 20miles in?

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:24):
Yeah, yeah, great, great ride, and we hit another
distillery, although I don'tknow how much of a distillery it
was, but that's not importantright now.
It's a distillery.
Um yeah, good enough.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:35):
Yeah, and then we went to uh Frankfurt and Buffalo
Trace.
Buffalo Trace, and then we wentuh on down to Arby's where we
generally eat uh before we partways.
And the uh the insinuation thatuh Adam was making there about
putting me further behind, I waslike we parted ways.

(01:09:58):
I was like, I've got a littlebit of time.
I've got a long drive, but I canbreak it up a little bit.
My wife wanted something uh fromFour Roses, so I stopped by
that.
It was on the way, stopped byFour Roses, uh, and then got
back on the road, and thenJathea Creed, uh, which is
another distillery that's on theBourbon Trail, was right there
off the highway.

(01:10:19):
I've seen it a million times.
It's like, oh, I'll just stop inhere.
So I just stopped into the giftshop and looked around, checked
it out, hopped back in myvehicle, and then uh had to go
to Louisville.
And the one distillery that Idid not get to go to in July or
this trip was Stiltsweller, whomakes uh Blade and Bow.

(01:10:40):
And uh so I thought, you knowwhat?
I'm only a mile or so away.
So I made a detour over there.
I went and visited theirdistillery, not very long, just
long enough to gift shop andlook around, take a few
pictures.
Then I hopped back in my car.
It's like I'm in great time.
Got down the road about an hour,got into Indiana, called, called
you up, and you were doing fine,you were making good time.

(01:11:04):
And uh got into Missouri and mycomputer system was saying, you
will be home by 11:35.
Okay, that's not bad with mystops and stuff.
And at that point, I think youwere already home.
I was like, okay, I can I canhandle that.
Uh flying down the interstate,and then all of a sudden, just

(01:11:25):
um west of Columbia, Missouri,the traffic just comes to a
complete stop.
There's no signs, there's nonothing, complete stop, stand
still, not moving at all.
And I was like, okay, well, youknow, we get moving here in a
minute.
40 minutes later, it stillwasn't moving.

(01:11:49):
And I was like, you gotta be.
And there was no way to get off.
There was no highway patrolmantelling people to get off you
know at the the last exit oranything, and you're just stuck.
It's like bumper to bumper,there's nowhere to go.
Um, so I wound up spending anextra uh, I don't know, what, an
hour and 10 minutes just sittingthere on the interstate waiting.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:11):
Luckily for you, you had me to do some math for you.
We figured out at the speed thatyou were going.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:17):
Yeah, and in 40 minutes, I went basically 40
yards, and then you came backwith this big mathematical
thing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:26):
Well, uh, I was concerned because I had expected
you home or near home at thetime, and I said, How's the trip
going?
And you took a picture of nobodymoving, and then um I said,
Well, what does the GPS say?
And you said it keeps climbing,and then you said I've gone 40
yards, and then I'm like, Well,okay, and you said you had, I
don't know, a hundred andsomething miles left, and so I I

(01:12:48):
went to Chat GPT and said, Ineed a complex equation, and it
just came back with thisseriously complex equation of at
the current rate, it would takeyou four days and everything
else.
And I'm like, All right, I'mgonna add some humor.
And then you came back, which Iwas I, you know, my wife was
sleeping upstairs.
I laughed out loud so loudbecause you said, Well, I've got
a lot of whiskey in this car.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:10):
I said, I've I've got many bottles of whiskey in
this car, and I've got a bag ofpumpkin seeds.
I should be okay.
Well, there you go.
For a little bit, not four daysworth, but after that we'll need
an airdrop or something.
But what was what reallyagitated me is I, you know, came
to a immediate halt, and itshowed, you know, I've got like

(01:13:36):
an hour and a half or somethingto get home or whatever.
And when I started, it was likefive and a half hours.
As I'm sitting there, theclicker just starts clicking.
All of a sudden it went up twohours, and then it went up
another hour.
I'm setting there, and all of asudden the thing is like five
hours and 20 minutes.
And I'm like, wait a minute.
It was basically that when I wasin Kentucky.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:58):
Five hours later.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:00):
Yeah.
I called my wife and and she'slike, How's it going?
I was like, Well, when I leftFrankfurt, it was five hours and
twenty minutes to get home.
I'm now outside of Columbia,Missouri.
It's five hours and 20 minutesto get home.
I felt like um, what's thatmovie?
Oh, brother, where aren't thou?
He goes in and he needs to buysomething, and it's like,
that'll be two weeks.

(01:14:21):
And he's like, We're at ageographical anomaly.
We're exactly two weeks fromeverything.
Kind of got that.
It's like, I'm exactly fivehours and 20 minutes from
everywhere.
But the good news was um, therewas a they they do it really
wank uh wonky the way they haddone the the construction, and

(01:14:42):
two trucks had crashed and itwas closed for three hours.
Fortunately, I was on the lasthour basically of that, and so I
got out of there, and it was notfive hours and twenty minutes to
get home.
So, but it I was really tempted.
There was about 15 yards betweenme and the car in front of me,
and I had a lawn chair in theback.
I could have taken that outthere and just opened one of

(01:15:04):
those bottles and had a littleparty while I waited.
Well, I made it home safe, andyou made it home safe, and it's
a good trip.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:14):
Yeah, we had a good time.
I I have one more piece of showand tell before we get the
listener spotlight, and so Idon't steal the thunder.
I want to see if you had anyclosing remarks yourself.
My closing remarks were youknow, I'm sorry about the hose
that derailed one of ouradventures this year, but I'm
glad that you're on the men,you're healing.
I love our adventures, uh, Ilove the people we meet along
the way.

(01:15:34):
Uh, I do have one last piece ofshow and tell that I'm gonna
turn it over to you beforelistener spotlight.
But um, you know, one of thethings about the Bourbon Burn,
Bourbon Country Burn, is theyhave select bottles that you can
pre-purchase part of the ride.
And um I hope I can do thiswithout showing my face here,

(01:15:54):
which is if you're on YouTube,uh the label is just absolutely
amazing.
Yeah, right there.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:02):
And so it's a bottle we got from Jay Mattingley, and
and we've been doing this.
We generally do a pre-orderbottle or two, and generally
they'll put like the little logoon a sticker on the side that
says, you know, this is forurban country burn.
But this one, I'll let youexplain it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:19):
This one uh is batch number four from Jay Maddingley.
On the back, it does saydistilled in Indiana.
Bottled by MGP.
You got it.
Wow.
Bottled by Jay Manley in 18 uh1845, not in, but uh uh bottled
in 1845.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:40):
So it was older that one.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:42):
Yeah, exactly.
It was distilled in Indiana, um,but then bottled uh right across
the street from Buffalo Trace atwhat they're calling Bourbon 30.
So it makes me wonder if Bourbon30 is the parent company uh and
Jay Madeleine is the name thatthey're using.
Uh, but the really cool thingabout it is the label has got
the the burn, which is theofficial logo of the burn, and

(01:17:02):
it has a bunch of cyclists goingdown the road if you cannot see
it.
Of course, if you're listeningand not watching, uh it does say
uh one hell of a pick.
Um small batch bourbon whiskeyfinished with oak staves, and
it's 112 proof.
Uh, and it says ride bikes,visit distilleries, which I find
a little interesting.

(01:17:23):
They use that on their label,but uh batch number four.

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:26):
But they just didn't do a single sticker, they made
the whole front label specificto the burn, which I thought was
great.
Now I've got questions for thesepeople.
It's being done in in what,Indiana, which we know if it's
being distilled in Indiana, it's99.9999% being done by MGP

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multi-grain products.
They do it for a lot of people.
But I got the understanding whenI was there that they were
distilling their own.
And they are the old Bourbon 30,and I know Bourbon 30 used to do
theirs, so I don't know if oneof two things, they they can't
keep up with production, uh, orthey don't have enough uh area

(01:18:10):
for production in the newfacility.
So it would be interesting toknow that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:13):
This says uh now reborn uh through the passion,
commitment, and hard work of JayMadeley re-energizing the
Mateley legacy in 2009, um, inearly stages of the spirits,
yada yada yada.
Um but when it says uh invitingspirit loves to custom blend, uh

(01:18:36):
they're they like to blend andthey're continuing their
innovation and creates one hellof a pick.
This is a true testament to thegreat legacy of the world-class
spirits.
And so, yeah, uh you want me tobe honest?
Bought it for the label.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:53):
Um you want me to be honest?
I bought the same bottle onlyfor the label because I had
already done, I I had done a newriff and uh another bottle, and
this one came out later, and Iwasn't going to necessarily get
it.
And I kind of was like, Do Ineed it?
I don't really need it, but it'slike a really cool label, so I

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went ahead and got it because ofthe label.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:16):
Love it.
Well, that's all my have beforewe do listener spotlight.
Just wanted to give you thefloor for a second.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:23):
You know, it was a great trip.
Uh, always enjoy riding,certainly enjoy uh getting
opportunities to hang out withyou and and do the adventures,
and so that's always good.
Um, we don't, obviously, cyclingseason is over.
Uh doesn't mean we won't begetting together.
Uh, we do have uh, I believe, atrip planned in January.

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We're going to uh, well, you'regonna go play golf.
I'm gonna go hack at a ball fora little bit.
So it'll be fun.
But uh we are looking at whatrides uh we're gonna be doing
next year.
I think we're shaking it up alittle bit.
We did uh talk to an individualat the last ride who represented

(01:20:04):
one of the rides that's on ourlist, and uh he kind of got us
pumped up and fired up for that.
So um stay tuned.

SPEAKER_02 (01:20:13):
With that, sir, it is now time for listener
spotlight.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:21):
All right.
Uh this episode's listenerspotlight clues are as followed.
Folllows.
The area was controlled byseveral countries throughout its
history.
Uh, and that area saw manybattles between the native
tribes and the United States.
Uh, this city was founded in thelate 1700s.

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It is named after a foundingfather of the United States.
Uh, we all can thank this cityfor an invention that originated
there.
What we eat and how we prepareour food was changed forever
through this invention.
The early economy of this citythrived due to industry and

(01:21:07):
railroad jobs.
The city itself is located onthe confluence of three rivers,
and that made this city a verystrategic location.
The city helped influence aplace where everyone knows your
name.

(01:21:28):
There you go.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:30):
You want to go where everybody knows your name.
All right, maybe we'll have tosee.
There we go.
Three rivers, Pittsburgh.
But everybody wants to know yourname, Boston.
With that being said, sir, ithas been a phenomenal season.
Um I can't wait till our nextadventure.

(01:21:54):
Um, who knows what that couldbe?
You never know.
So you never know.
With that being said, somewhere,somewhere, somehow today, it was
a great day.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:09):
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