You have had the privilege of defeating Ebony Maw (SCL S20 R1, Ep. 65)

Today we are discussing Season 20, Round 1 of the Solo Champions League, the first round of the final SCL season. This round is a bunch of protection heroes vs Standard Ebony Maw + Dystopian Nightmare + Black Order + Ship Command. This episode has three guests each join josseroo for one-on-one discussions: DHaus is back 40ish episodes later, The_Chase is back to talk SCL instead of MODOK League, and I have my first chat with soamazinglybad.

Joss' YouTube Channel (Solo Champions League Gameplay): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8M_m6TeG3LAzrIZ4o1jkRQ

Solo Champions League Discord: https://discord.gg/dnq9gUPfGHOfficial website for SCL: https://www.bearoverinnsmouth.com/solo-champions-league

MODOK league website: https://modokleague.github.io/

Episode Transcript

(00:08):
Hey friendos, welcome to the Road to nowhere, a Marvel
champions LCG podcast. We focused on recapping solo
Champions League, but if you enjoy breaking down the finer
details of a marvel champions matchup, then we have something
for you. We just finished round one of
the final season of Solo Champions League in Smith.
Bear has decided that this will be the final season.

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This week I'm going to be joinedby three different guests.
Each of them will be joining me one-on-one for a chat.
We have the long-awaited return of D House, who was the original
Co host, is actually the person who got the podcast started and
I joined as you know the as the Co host and D House was the main

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host. So it's great to have him back
and it was really great to chat with him.
And then actually another podcaster, The Chase will be up
second on on the list. And The Chase did the original
Marvel Champions podcast with Tony, Tails and Ryan and so

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Amazingly Bad will be our 3rd guest and talk to talk to him a
little bit about his round as well.
So that's the big plan. What happened this round?
Well, this round was actually a repeat of the season 16 round
one matchup, which was Ebony Mawwith Dystopian Nightmare, Black
Order and Ship Command. Maybe Dystopian Nightmare wasn't

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originally in there, I don't remember.
So we've got this edition of Ship Command in in this one
difficulty was on standard, we had heroes, lots of great
heroes. Bishop, Black Widow, Captain
America, Domino, Stylock or Winter Soldier were the choices.
Protection was the aspect and the challenge was the fewest

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rounds you had to win and you got points for winning in the
fewest rounds overall. So let's have a look at this
scenario a little bit more closely.
Ebony Maw has two main schemes. The first has a threat threshold
of just six and the second is 9.So you're going to be kind of
working fighting against that threat threshold of 6 all the

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time. Ebony Maw's main hook is the
spells that he has. He you pull one out right at the
start of the game. There's four of them all
together, Fireball, Manipulation, Pacification and
Rubble Storm. So fireball.
The way these all work is when they come into play, they have

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surge which will trigger if theyget revealed, but at the start
of the game that doesn't doesn'tactually trigger, goes in front
of you. You get 4 counters on Fireball
for example, and then every timethat Ebony Maw activates it goes
down and when the counters hit zero the effect happens and then

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the spell goes to the discard pile.
So Fireball is deal 4 damage to your identity and that's 4
counters. Manipulation is 2 counters and
then you have to discard a card at random and you're confused.
Pacification is 3 counters. Exhaust each upgrade you control
and you are stunned when that one runs out of counters.
And then rubble storm 3 countersagain, two damage to each

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character you control. I think a lot of people hate
these in different ways. Fireball getting two of them on
you that are going to hit aroundthe same time is always very
terrifying. Folks like me who love building
up big ally boards really hate Rebel Storm because those two
damage to each character you control, it really suck.
And of course, pacification exhausting each upgrade you

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control really ruins the day of a lot of characters that like to
build out their boards. So lots of things to dislike and
lots of things that kind of, youknow, wreck your turn a little
bit because, you know, being confused or stunned that uses up
your your main activation. So that's the big way that that

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works. This really reminds me of Aon's
End, which is a deck builder, where one of the main mechanisms
in the game is that there are these things that come out with
a certain number of counters, and as those counters tick down,
then they all of a sudden will hit you.
But usually you have ways to actually get rid of those

(04:35):
things. So it'd be kind of an
interesting additional layer where you know if you accomplish
something or pay something to get rid of the spell before it
goes off, It doesn't go off, butit costs you something to do so
to avoid it. But in general, I really like
this mechanism. I like seeing in the distant
future that there's this thing that I'm have to plan for and

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get ready for and deal with the thing.
I would actually would really like the game to explore a lot
more. I think opinions on Ebony Ma are
somewhat mixed, so it doesn't seem like everybody's super in
love with it, but I think part of that might be that, and I
mentioned this a little bit later, but you know, there's
only 8 spells in the deck. When you start the game on

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Expert, everybody gets 2 spells,so the entire deck gets all the
spells removed, and then the game's kind of not as
interesting anymore because there's not a bunch of spells in
the deck anymore. The pretty lean deck in fact as
well. There's just another 5
treacheries, 2 side schemes, andtwo attachments in this, and a

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lot of the treacheries are just getting rid of a counter on each
of these, making them happen a little bit faster.
So it's a pretty lean deck overall past those spells.
You know what, half it is spellsand half is not spells.
And interestingly, although there's no minions in this set,
there's only two minions in the whole scenario, as we're going
to see. And with somebody like Winter
Soldier, that's a little tough since he really likes to have

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minions and defeat them because he gets lots of extra advantages
from from defeating things. The Dystopian Nightmare has just
six cards all together, 2 copiesof a haunted obligation that has
a hazard icon and then you have to discard to get rid of it.
Do treacheries that stun you andif you're already stunned, take
two damage that has a boost effect, the exact same ability,

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and then two targeted for extermination side schemes which
confuse you. So we see there's a lot of
things when when you defeat them, you see a lot of things
that are either confusing you orstunning you.
And there's a bit of a thing that you have to kind of fight
against. And then Black Order, which is
where the minions show up. There's Black Dwarf with six

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health and three attack and Supergiant with five health, two
attack, 2 thwart and and quick strike.
And then Black Order side scheme, which we'll just say
it's a bit of a nothing scheme. And then Blood Despair, one copy
of this Treachery and it actually goes in, fetches a

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Black Order minion. So there's effectively 3 minions
in the deck from that perspective again.
So they're not not a lot of minions going on.
We're going to have a quick lookat the results here and how
everything panned out. 3 heroes were pretty similar in how

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popular they were, a little around 20 percent, Bishop
Shylock and Captain America. Winter Soldier at 12%, Blackwood
about 14% and Domino at 9%. In terms of popularity, how many
people picked them, and in termsof the actual performance,
Captain America was the highest performing character out of all

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of them. Had 100% win rate as did Winter
Soldier and Black Widow. However Winter Soldier was
second. Was a little bit surprising
given how much of his stuff likes minions and he was really
he was the fastest of all the heroes and and got second like I

(08:09):
said overall Sylac was third even though she had a win
percentage of 94. Black Widow was fourth win
percentage of 100, but she was alittle bit slower and Bishop was
came in at 5th and then Domino came in last overall and had an
approval rating that was about 10 points lower than cap.

(08:34):
We also saw in the final resultsthat about 25% of the time
people had the main scheme go from stage one over over to
stage 2. So, you know, protecting that
six threat threshold main schemein protection was not easy for
everybody. And we've got, you know, quite a
few heroes that do like to flip.So people are probably taking

(08:56):
advantage of that with the newerscoring scheme that we have in
the game where there's seven categories all together.
And if you get if you get a staror if you get 5 stars, I guess
in five of the seven categories you get the maximum possible
score. So there's a little bit of room
to drop in a category as we'll see when we talk to some of the

(09:18):
folks. So you can actually get not
perfect threat score and still get an overall really, really
good score as an example. So we are going to jump into our
interviews and making his long-awaited return.
D House. David, how are you?

(09:40):
I'm good and I'm so excited to be back here with you.
I It brings me great joy to be here today.
I'm, I'm really excited too. It Yeah, it occurred to me when
I saw you pop back in, I was like, oh, here's a not entirely
terrible idea. Well, you don't know.
We haven't recorded yet, so it could be a terrible idea.

(10:02):
Oh. It's going to be awesome.
So. So yeah.
So the, you know, the long longer story is many moons ago,
D House was like checking aroundon the SCL channel who might be
interested in doing a podcast. And I was the person who stepped
up. So we started doing it.
And then D House, you got interested in other things in

(10:23):
life and decided to move on. And so I kind of just took over
sole ownership and had a rotating second and third chair
since then. Yeah, and I have fun.
Format, but yeah, it's been. Fun.
It's been fun to be on the otherside and just be a fan and
listen to the show. Still, even even on the seasons

(10:44):
I wasn't playing like I would still listen to the show because
I that's nice. I still enjoyed it.
I think a lot of the impetus forstarting this was I, I always
thought I was going to go into journalism and report on it.
Probably sports journalism, reporting on the most recent
game or something like that. And like I, I was the kid in

(11:04):
high school who read the whole sports section of the newspaper
from like front to back. Like I woke up early to make
sure I caught every single headline, every stat, every.
I don't know what it was about it.
Do you do you remember newspapers?
Clarify that part. I sure do, yeah.
But I, I always just had a passion for reviewing what

(11:25):
happened and, and sharing the stories and talking about the
cool moments and, and all that. So when I was doing SCLII, just,
it felt like there was an opportunity to have a show
dedicated to like talking about those things.
And I, I 'cause sometimes I think I get more joy from
talking about the games to playing the games, which is

(11:45):
weird. And I know I'm unique in that,
but I was. I don't even.
I don't even know if that's the case, honestly.
That you're unique really. Well, I mean, I think the actual
official games for some people are a bit of a drag.
And it's kind of like the fun ofpreparing and making your decks
and tuning them and all those other things and then actually
kind of doing them is like, I guess I got to finally do it.

(12:07):
Yeah, got to RIP the bandit off because yeah, it is about some
of it's about the community, right.
And I, I think that's what you've done great with the this
show is bringing on different members of the community and it
is, it's like competitive cooperative league that you get
to experience great relationships and connections
and, and that's what makes it sobeautiful.

(12:29):
So I was so glad when you hoppedon and that you continued it on.
And, and of course, when I saw that SC LS coming to an end this
season, I have been playing, I, I, I kind of go in and out, but
I have been playing a lot of marvel champs recently.
And I thought, man, I've got to get in on this last season and
just celebrate what this awesome, let's see, like awesome

(12:50):
idea has been. I love it.
And so you have been playing some Marvel Champions lately,
have you? Are you completely caught up on
all the content like you've beenkeeping up that way?
I, I, I, I have a lot of regret for not just buying everything
as it came out 'cause I have hadto like go back and like catch

(13:11):
up on things. Like I, I, I, it was like right
around so mutant Genesis. I feel like I got mutant Genesis
in like that, that wave. And then I kind of started
trickling away. And so I, I had a lot to go back
and catch up on in that sense. And I made it as simple as like,
oh, I'll just pick up the Age ofApocalypse box.

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And it was, there's, I couldn't find it.
It was literally gone. I actually, well, maybe I'll get
into that later, but the I actually got it while it was out
of print by going to the Star Wars unlimited galactic
Championships and asthma Day hada had a pop up shop and they
happen to have two copies of Ageof Apocalypse sitting there

(13:53):
while I was at the the World Championships for a different
game. I was like, can I please buy
that? And they're like, sure.
So so I was able to grab that and I so I'm getting closer.
I'm not, I'm not quite there. I'm trying not to, you know, get
on my wife's dark side of, you know, why have you spent so much
money? But but we're getting close.

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The the, the small nice thing about the LC GS is even though
maybe you're spending kind of this ongoing money, like in a
subscription format, the number of cards that are coming in in
any given batch is not that high.
So the space it takes up is not absurd.
Yeah, yeah. Totally agree.
Totally agree. So you you've been obviously

(14:37):
playing other games and you've been doing other podcasts as
well. I have, yes.
Yeah, but most of my time today is, is taking it by Star Wars
Unlimited. Actually, after we're done
recording this, I'm going to hopon with the other guys and
record some Star Wars Unlimited content.
But. I love it.
We, so I, I've got a group of friends and we go way back to

(14:58):
like early FFG days where we were playing stuff like the Star
Wars LCG together and X Wing together and, and we always kind
of play games together. In fact, they played Marvel
champions and then they dropped off, which is when I found the
SCL and, and start doing this. Ironically, they're, they've

(15:18):
come booming back and now they're loving the Marvel
champions as well, which OK, when your friends are, are, are
playing the game. But, but we, we recorded, I've
started podcasts for specific games like during X Wing, it was
stay on target during Destiny, it was the Jedi trials.
And then eventually we realized,Hey, these, these games

(15:38):
eventually die and we, we, and then we have nothing to talk
about. So we started a channel called
unplayable, which is sort of game neutral and we can use that
Channel to play any game and talk about anything that we're
interested in. And so so we started unplayable
on YouTube and, and do a weekly podcast, but we do some live

(15:58):
streams on Fridays and we do a bunch of different content for
for different games. But right now it's definitely
like 90 to 95% Star Wars Unlimited.
I'm a Star Wars nerd. Like it just is, it's in my
blood. And the game is great.
It's going really well. It's growing.
Just at the Galactic Championship, the World
Championships couple weeks ago with 3000 people.

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I mean, it was nuts. And so, so, yeah, so that's been
going great. Oh, I'd love to hear it.
So that's that's definitely yourcurrent obsession.
Yeah, 100% and and it is like a it is a competitive game.
So I I find myself doing a lot of drafting in that game and

(16:43):
sealed in that game. There's a multiplayer format,
which is probably my favorite. It's kind of a four, three to
four player free for all, which is super fun, reminds me of some
of like the fun of Marvel Champions.
But, but I, I do think Marvel Champions offers this, this
other, I don't know, it scratches a different itch that
I have where I can't play solo. I can get to the end of the day

(17:04):
where I've been talking all day in meetings and I don't want to
talk to anybody, but I have thisitch to play game.
I don't want to look at a computer screen because I've
been looking at computer screensall day.
I just want to sit at my, sit atmy kitchen table with some
cards, not talk, play some fun games.
And, and so, so yeah, I've been been doing a lot of solo, kind
of like working my way through the campaigns on the solo side,

(17:29):
yeah. Excuse me, have you engaged at
all with the There was a campaign chat competition that
Villain Theory and a bunch of other content creators got going
and they were these three scenario campaigns.
Did you see those at all? I just learned about it like a
couple days ago because I was watching a, a channel on YouTube

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and they were playing one of thecustom contents custom content.
And I was like, wait, this, that's such a cool idea.
And, and I, I've never been, I've never been one to like
really dig into like custom content when I, I think I, I
respect people who make it and, and if that's fun, like that's
great. But I've got so much official
product that will last me years to come.

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Like I'm not really looking for a new challenge.
I'm looking to use the stuff I already spent money on.
So what I loved about that is itseemed like you couldn't, you
couldn't make anything new. You had to use, yes, real cards,
but you combine them in different ways and to create
new, new campaigns, which I, yeah, I think that that idea is
phenomenal. Well done.

(18:35):
And yeah, I think, I think it was, you know, kind of in a way
stretching people's storytellingmuscles because it was all using
the existing content. So people had to get nice and
creative. Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's cool. That's that.
That is the beauty of of these games.
But yeah, I I do think the whole, the whole idea of a
campaign, the storytelling, to be honest, when I started

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playing Marvel Champions, I had no interest in campaigns at all.
I just wanted like one off scenarios to play in in my free
time. And I've completely flipped.
I love, I love the campaigns andI'm, I'm slowly working my way
through the Age of Apocalypse solo right now and, and just,
yeah, just loving it. So I'm sure at some point I'll

(19:20):
run run through the campaigns and then I'll go back to that
content from villain theory and and probably figure that out
too. Yeah, I want to, I want to visit
those a little bit more because I was listening to the Stand and
Confused podcast and they were talking about their experience
of playing through a bunch of them.
And yeah, they, they sounded, I mean, I, I watched kind of the
announcement of, you know, who won and stuff like that, but

(19:41):
they understand and confused, they were talking about it in a
little more detail. And that was kind of hooked me
kind of figured out how to find the time to, to do it with, you
know, all the other stuff happening.
But I, I think I'm definitely intrigued.
Yeah, yeah. It's funny.
For a cooperative game, you sometimes you can feel busy with
all the different opportunities.You can.
Yeah, you can. You have to play this game,

(20:02):
which is a good problem to have.It yeah, it really is.
So you, you are back in solo Champions League for joining us
for the final season. You ended up playing cap right?
I did, yeah. I, I in the past, I would have
been like, no, Captain America. That's like, you know, if that's

(20:24):
the, that's the hero I give to the new player who's never
played Marvel Champions 'cause he's just so powerful and so
easy. But I thought, you know what?
I haven't, I haven't done SCL inso long.
I probably need a little bit of a cheat code to from my first
scenario. With respect to cheat code,
Captain America was the hero whocame out on the top of the
overall approval rating. But you, you got yourself A5

(20:47):
star. So you've seen there's like
there's a new scoring system. You got yourself a maximum
score, so I wanted to check in with you, you know, about your,
what you were thinking. I mean, maybe first of all,
what's your, what's your take onEbony Maw in general?
How do you enjoy Ebony Maw as a villain?
Yeah, I I actually love Ebony Maw.

(21:09):
Me too. I think truly Ebony Maw is
probably one of my favorite villain scenarios.
In fact, I have a Co worker in our IT department who he's, he's
been talking to me, his, his nephews are trying to, they're
like, you know, middle schoolerstrying to create a Marvel TCG.
They're like designing cards anddoing these things.
And I said, hey, you know, if you ever heard of Marvel

(21:31):
champions. And we got to talking and, and
he was like immediately interested.
And so last week he learned the game.
I couldn't be there, but he learned it with a friend of mine
and they played against Mojo and, and I thought I'm like
that, but they couldn't finish like they, because he was his
first game and they, you know, and, and I, I told him I was

(21:53):
like, all right, next time we play like like let's sit down
with Ebony Ma or Rhino or something.
And it's a little bit I, I thinkit's like very, a lot more
straightforward, but the environment since some of the
like kind of the, the clock ticking down, you know, you
start to sweat a little bit likeam I going to get through this
next round or if this goes off, am I totally screwed?

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I don't know, but I think he's agreat.
I think he's just a great replayable scenario.
At the higher player counts, especially on the higher
difficulties, all the spells getpulled out of the deck and it
kind of changes how the actual game plays out at once you're
going. But with with a smaller number
of players, like one or two players, there's still lots of

(22:33):
spells in the deck even at the higher difficulties, and I think
it works really well. Yeah, yeah.
And then so yeah, you played Captain America.
Maybe tell us a little bit aboutwhat you're thinking for your
deck. Maybe, maybe let's run through
your deck real quick. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I, I need to give a shout out because I, I started with
somebody else's shell. I want to make sure that I give

(22:57):
give the right shout out. So yeah, I saw Jarrett post in
Discord. Oh yeah, yeah.
So, so Jarrett posted his deck and and I I needed like a good
starting place because I didn't want to start from scratch.
So, so my list is completely based on on Jarrett's.
But yeah, so really it's, it's alittle bit leaning into the the

(23:19):
whole stun lock. Like, you know, it, it's real
hard for those, those counters to go off and do bad things.
If, if Ebony Monde ever gets to do anything, which ironically
failed dramatically in my first game, I don't know how I got 5
stars my, my very first game. No, I'll, I'll save that.

(23:39):
I'll save that. So basically I'm running on the
ally side. I've got Clea, Daredevil 3,
multiple man, and Nick Fury in Star Hawk.
I, you know, it's funny, I almost didn't include * Hawk,
but I, I remember a podcast you did recently where you talked
about how every protection roundin SCL has * Hawk.
And I thought if Josh thinks * Hawk needs to go in then then I

(24:03):
trust in Josh. It's a bit, it's a bit of a
depends on the speed of the gamesort of situation, but I mean
both Astrodar and I absolutely adore * Huck.
And honestly after playing it I understand why.
Like it's just it is a very reliable way to just take care
of threat or and get it back to hand and do it again or

(24:25):
whatever. So ironically I never played the
Daredevil. The two cost Daredevil, I think
Clea came in once, but multiple man hit the table many times
ironically so that that that felt that felt pretty solid on
the event side. I've got face the past three

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tackles, 3 taunts. I think taunt is my Taunt is my
current favorite card in the game.
OK. I, I've been playing a lot of
Magneto protection and Colossus protection for the campaigns.
I've been a part of them. Like we when I was at the Star

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Wars World Championships at night, we would hang out in the
hotel and we actually the four of us who do unplayable.
We, we brought Marvel champions because we're like, we're going
to need a good palate cleanser from because we're going to be
playing Star Wars all day. We need something else to do at
night. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And and so we, we one of the guys brought expert hood and we
brought like basically 4 decks that could all do the team up

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cards and do crazy things. So I ended up on on Colossus
with with taunt and oh boy, thatjust felt good.
It just felt really strong. So been playing that a ton.
Right, well, Colossus is an especially good taunt person to
to play with. Yes, yes, 100%.

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So I've got player size, I've got the Superpower training,
I've got the three double S and Power Protect, 2 copies of Power
Protection on the support side, Dr. Sinclair.
And you know what I'm looking atJared's first.
I want to make sure I 'cause I Night Nurse, I do have Night

(26:13):
Nurse, yes. And you know what, I'm really,
I'm really glad I brought Night Nurse because for some reason,
every time I would get the original environment, I'd always
get manipulation from Ebony MA, which is the like it, you know,
after two it triggers and you'reconfused and it gets rid of a
card, which I hate it really, that of all the ones like that

(26:36):
one just and so I was really glad to have night nurse in
there. Let's see.
And then some. Ready for a fight, right?
Yes, yes, 3 copies are ready forfight and that's that's it.
So there's a bunch of cards thatare definitely newer since you
were playing quite a bit more intensely in the past,

(26:59):
obviously. But so, you know, things that
actually really kind of change how things work a little bit.
Taunt, obviously, ready for sorry, face the past and ready
for a fight. Those are all kind of things
that really color how you're playing entirely.
So yeah, I know. Any takes on any of those cards?
Yeah, yeah, ready for a fight isawesome.

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Actually, what's really funny isI, I bought silk like the day
before the SCL the round ended and because part of me I was
like, I was like, oh man, I think I need ready for a fight
in order to play this deck. And, and I was like, well, I
need silk anyways. So I, I, I bought it just to

(27:44):
like get the ready for a fight. I literally ripped it open,
pulled the cards out, sleeved itup and started playing when it,
when it arrived because I was like, it was like the last day
or whatever. But yeah, ready for a fight.
I, I, it's, it's so good number one, I think I underestimated
its power and I got punished forit in my first game.

(28:07):
I sat down and this is like classic like welcome back to the
SCL. But my, my first two rounds was
two advances of the game. Like I, I just, I was like, oh
man, like, and so, so the, the main scheme did advance to the
second stage, which was like tragic.
I was like, oh man, I'm, I'm rusty.
I'm, you know, like that should not have happened.

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And then I was like reading ready for a fight.
I was like, oh, wait a second. I should have, I should have
instead of, you know, pitching that I should have had that on
the table. So that never would have
happened because I can do a bunch of stud.
But yeah, so anyways, that that that card's pretty sweet.
So yeah, you're now a convert. Yes yes yeah, 100% said like

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every protection deck from now on.
I guess Face of the past is pretty cool.
I I'm curious how much people use this.
Like because there are some, I imagine there are some heroes
you just do not want to play this at all.
That's right. Like, I don't think I play this
in Colossus. I don't want to see the
Juggernaut any more than I do already.

(29:12):
Like that guy is the bane of my existence so but in in Captain
America, it's like, oh, little Baron's evo, OK, that's fine.
Give me give me a ready and draw3.
Right. There's a, there's a quick
strike there, but it's you can deal with it.
Right. So yeah, I'm trying to think of

(29:35):
any of the other new ones, Doctor Schuyler and other.
So yeah, yeah. Never used her so.
OK. Yeah, never hit the table.
Very fair. I mean, she's she's great.
The the nice thing about her is it's the multiplayer card.

(29:56):
It's really great 'cause it's that any player can trigger the
ability. Oh yeah, that yeah, that makes
sense. So just just somebody needs to
get her down. And those kinds of cards are
just so, so nice in multiplayer,right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so you got a Captain
America shell, You are. You've got some status effects

(30:16):
from Tackle, but you're undoing your status effects with taunts.
Yeah. So how did it all go?
Yeah, yeah. And that's, I think that was one
of the more interesting decisionpoints on, on like multiple
rounds of, OK, is it more valuable to leave the stun, you
know, thinking, OK, maybe I havetaunt, maybe maybe I've used my

(30:37):
hand and I can taunt and I get, I can get 3 cards and, but
there's a chance those 3 cards aren't as valuable at this
moment as that stun, you know, protected, stopping the
environment from moving, you know, removing a thing and
getting hit and getting damaged and all that stuff.
So it, I, I found the decision points in the agency of, I think

(30:57):
that's why I like protection so much in general, because I feel
like there's a lot of complexityand decision making points that
that make it, make it really funfor me.
So yeah, I, I think it was great.
I think, I mean, dear goodness, between the three copies of
heroic strike and the three tackles, you know, it, it felt

(31:21):
so powerful. I think, I think 2 of the games
I didn't even end up playing hisshield, which felt wrong.
Like I, I was like, am I doing something wrong?
But but it went OK, so maybe it's fine.
There were definitely some awkward, you know, you know,
when you get the shield toss in hand or, you know, shield block

(31:44):
some of those where you're like,oh, I probably want the shield.
But but I think it went well. I think besides the the double
advance in the first game that went to the second second main
scheme, the the next games went a lot better.
I I they went, I think they wenta little longer.
I can't remember how many roundsI end up going, but they they
went a little bit longer. I slowed down but made sure not

(32:07):
to pop the main scheme. Well, you came in, you still had
with the challenge bonus, which is, you know, a speed based
thing. You came in at .7 stars, which
is, I don't know, kind of middleof the pack for speed.

(32:27):
I think when you actually look through all the, oh, at least
the, the Flight 2 and Flight 1 speeds kind of that's, that was
kind of like the average basically for the challenge.
So yeah, it was like probably 5-5 or six round average,
probably maybe a little bit 5, close to 5.
Yeah, that sounds right. That sounds correct.

(32:50):
OK, cool. And yeah, so you, you know,
looking at your score, you got kind of five stars on all the
things on win percentage, turns,villains score, hero score, you
got the XP bonus challenge monitor, We already said it's
kind of .7 star. And then your scheme score, you
got to see those two advances. And so you got three stars.

(33:10):
Yeah, yeah. But it's still the best 5, it's
the best 5 categories. So you still got a five star
approval rating. So it's like kind of this nice
way where you have all these different paths.
You can, you can soak up losing the main scheme once or twice
maybe. And that's OK.
The the new scoring system kind of makes it so you don't have to
do every single thing well. Yeah, yeah, that's that is

(33:32):
really cool because because I assumed as soon as it popped, I
was like, well, OK, like, there it goes.
There it goes. I'm like, but I'm playing this
this this season for fun. That's that's no big deal.
So I I was surprised to see someof the OR to, you know, to get
tagged in the results post at some point.
I was like, no way. So, Captain.
America, that's a lot of, that'sa lot of tagging.

(33:53):
He had to do that. There's a lot of five stars.
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah.
Super fun. I yeah, there, there was a,
there was a part of me that wanted to do domino because I,
I, I bought Domino maybe like the, or the box that Domino came
in probably like a month ago or so.

(34:14):
And I really enjoyed the one game I played with her.
I was like, oh, I could do that.But I, I started to think I was
like, Dang, she seems a little big brained for me to come back
to the SCL and figure out how todo that well.
Right. The like the additional
constraints of kind of paying attention to what you need to
pay attention to in STL and the more complicated heroes.
Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I adore, I adore domino as

(34:41):
as as one of the heroes, but I Idefinitely hear you that, you
know, like the kind of straightforward, you know, you
know, the cap game plan. Yes, Yep, Yep.
It's execute. Yeah, yeah.
Go back to the that and it is, it is what's great about Marvel
Champions because there's, there's what, 6 years of
content, you know, to, to pull from And some of those early

(35:03):
years I played so much I'm like,it just feels like getting back
on the bike. Some of the new, some of the
newer heroes, I'm like, wait, what does that do?
And how does that interact? And player side schemes.
That's a new one too, that that that popped up.
Right. That's a whole new stuff for
you, yeah. I haven't quite wrapped my brain
around, you know, when it's helpful, when it's not, but but
it's it's definitely interesting.

(35:25):
Oh, love it. So David, maybe on your on your
way out, you want to kind of shout out your all your
endeavors again, let people knowwhere to find you.
Yeah, sure. We so if you if you go if you're
on YouTube, you can go to literally unplayable or if you
if you search unplayable, we'll probably pop up It's four of us

(35:48):
that in the picture. But we we play again, we we're
not locked into one particular game.
We just sort of play the games we enjoy and talk about the
games we enjoy. And and so we've we've actually
been talking about Marvel champions on some recent live
streams that we've been doing, which you know, there I think
there is a little bit of overlapbetween Marvel Champions and

(36:10):
Star Wars Unlimited. I think there's a lot of players
that play both for various reasons, but but if you look,
look it up on there, we like, wejust like to have a lot of fun.
We're like I said, we've been friends for a long time.
So YouTube's probably the best place to look.
But there there's the weekly podcast if you're into Star Wars
unlimited, if you're not into Star Wars unlimited, probably
just stick to YouTube, But you never know what we might cover

(36:33):
in the future. We're, we're trying to, we, we,
we really, we really are playinga lot more Marvel champions in
general and, and have been enjoying it quite a bit.
So hence hence, you know, the whole, you know, we're literally
at the World Championships wherewe're Star Wars and we're
playing Marvel champions in the hotel.
So. Right, right.
It's I love it. It's fun.

(36:54):
Yeah. Well, thank you for for dropping
by. Maybe we'll get a chance to talk
to you one more time before the end of the season.
Yeah, yeah, this is this is so great.
And, and seriously, you know, thanks for keeping it going and
I there, I, I hold at least a percentage of guilt having

(37:15):
started it with you and then bailing on you.
So I just want to publicly acknowledge my shame there.
But the fact that it's continuedall these, all these seasons
and, and sounds like you're doing some I, I was looking at
your Modoc league and stuff you're doing with that, which
looks really cool and interesting as well.
So sounds. Like you like drafting so.
I do like drafting you, you you said the right words.

(37:37):
So I did the site scheme draft league years ago.
I did. I did a couple of those, I
think. But yeah, very cool.
So thanks for thanks for leadingthe charge, John.
I mean, there's, I don't think Iwould have tried to get it off
the ground on my own. So I needed, I needed somebody

(37:59):
out there like you, who, you know, is running around starting
things, making things happen to,to really get it going.
So I, I, whether or not you stayed, I appreciated that you
got it started. That was really, really helpful.
And it was so delightful to get to hear your voice because it
has been quite a long time sincewe've had a chance to chat.
I know, I know. What a gift.

(38:20):
I love it. I love it.
Thank you so much for letting me.
Come on. All right, talk to you later.
All right, bye. And joining us now is the Chase.
Chase, how are you doing? Pretty good.
How about yourself? Good, so you you've been on the
pod talking about Modoc league before, but not about SCL at all

(38:43):
so. But you've been around for off
and on for quite a long time, somaybe give a quick history of
your time with SCL before we start talking about your deck.
Yep. So I had a friend introduce me
into the game. I think like a lot of people in
2020, but I think I was more on the back half of 2020.

(39:04):
And he told me about SCL and youknow, this competitive format of
solo that's all done online in adiscord.
And I was like, OK, I'll, I'll check it out.
So I I went and looked, I remember my round I took Thor
into claw and I just remember itThor justice getting absolutely

(39:26):
smashed. And I decided to join in a round
5 and it was season 3. Round 5 was my first attempt at
the league and I just rememberedsubmitting those rounds and like
looking at the scores and ever since then it's like I've been
trying to crawl my way up. You know the leaderboards.

(39:47):
I I do love how much of A recurring theme it is that
people kind of either were naiveor got overwhelmed in their
first first round. But yeah, those those poor folks
that joined in a Round 5 and that was at a time Round 5 was
brutal. Yeah, I the the worst part was I

(40:09):
had barely played Thor, maybe never played Thor up to that
point. And it's just like, Oh yeah,
Thor justice. I'm going to get this done now.
All right. And then so you are these days,
you've got like 366 XP, which is, you know, kind of on the

(40:31):
order of about 1/3 of the maximum ones.
But you started in Season 3, so you've taken some time off and
come back, right? Oh yeah.
I couldn't tell you what all theseasons were that I've
participated in, but you know, Ijoined in Season 3, probably
went for a couple seasons, left for a couple, came back for a

(40:52):
couple, and now I've been back. I think I played in a little bit
of 18, Season 18, played all of Season 19 and now we're in
Season 20. Right, cool.
Well, it's good to have you backand it's been fun to get the
chat with you lots. We're going to talk about your
time with one of the newest heroes, The Winter Soldier.

(41:15):
So maybe you want to break down your deck a little bit.
You go through every card or if you want to just kind of go
through what you think are the most important cards for it.
Sure. So when I initially built my
deck, you know, I've kind of barely looked at the scenario.
You know, it's Ebony Maw, you know, it's a round one should be

(41:38):
able to kind of smash the sky with with Winter Soldier and
it's like I put in, you know, come get me Bub Hard Knocks, you
know, all the things to kill minions and then remove threat
that way and then eventually do damage.
So I went in and played my firstround and then I realized
there's only two minions in the deck.
So but my first like practice rounds actually went pretty

(42:00):
good. Even with the only the two
minions, the games tend to go pretty fast.
So it's like, you know, even just killing those two minions,
you know, might be enough threatremoval for what I need.
But I actually did end up takingout Come get me Bub.

(42:20):
Just really didn't need the toughs, the toughs from it or
the healing. But yeah, so I had eight allies
in my deck. Went with Blade, Brother voodoo,
Grant ward, Iron fist, Jacosta, Nick Fury and * Hawk.

(42:41):
And to touch on some of those, Brother voodoo lets you go find
an event when you play him. So great for Bucky being able.
Yep, great for Bucky being able to go get a damage card.
And then I ended up deciding to go with kind of a stun lock
build, so had Iron Fist in thereand then Jacosta was in there to

(43:04):
go get what I think is one of his best cards, arm block.
Even though I didn't want to getattacked because of the spells,
if I knew an attack was coming and I was able to play Jacosta,
it felt really good to have thatarm block sitting there.

(43:25):
Yeah, I hear you. And then I also had Face the
Past in there. I've never really used Face the
Past. Being able to go get Crossbones,
who has Quick Strike is really nice because Bucky needs to take

(43:47):
a little bit of damage so I could use what doesn't kill me.
So you know, you could get the heel and the ready so it doesn't
whiff. And then of course killing
Crossbones, you get that tooth threat removal and I still kept

(44:10):
Hard Knocks in the deck. Being able to with his
cybernetic arm being able to addthe extra damage to there the
the five damage it does now is able to take out crossbones and
I believe what the other minion that's in the deck that has five

(44:32):
health and I was able to use it a couple times to knock out
Ebony maw 1 and get the bonuses from that.
So I ended up keeping that one in there.
It felt pretty good and. Then you got a couple player
side teams. Yeah, I actually kind of had

(44:54):
issues filling the deck out. I was looking for a lot of more
damage a lot of times, but I wasn't in love with the other
like protection damage cards. So I decided to throw those in
there just to be able to go grabthe Helicarrier that's in there

(45:15):
or with Superpower Training to go grab his rifle to get the
extra damage on his basic attacks.
I didn't get those down all the time.
They it kind of depend on the flow of the game, what the
priority was. If I if I was able to get one
down early, I'd put it down be able to clear it pretty fast.

(45:40):
The yeah, the winter rifle. So that's the +2 attack when you
do a basic attack, but you exhaust it and you get piercing
and ranged. And then of course you have what
doesn't kill me. As you mentioned, you have face
the Past. So you have some, you have some
readies so you can actually, youknow, take advantage of that and
still do other thing. And of course, one of the nice

(46:01):
things about Winter Soldier is he does get that threat removal
for defeating something off the main scheme.
So you don't have to be using your basic activations to thwart
all that often. Yeah, exactly.
There was lots of times where I would just, a lot of my plays in
SCL, if I have an opportunity toclean up the threat off the main

(46:24):
scheme, I'm going to do it because you never know when that
advance is going to come out with Bucky in this round.
A lot of times I just left it because I knew I'd get more
efficient threat removal in the next round.
Right. And and then you've got, you

(46:45):
know, 1 endurance, regular double resources, a power
protection and, you know, decenta decent chunk of things that
can really take advantage of power protection because you
have three what doesn't kill me's and three what Hard Knocks
and and a bunch of allies. Yeah, I always struggle with,
you know, trying to decide how many the power of's to put in

(47:07):
decks. You know, we're at like 10 cards
that it hit. So like I said I was struggling
to get 240 which I did end up at41.
The IT it ended up working out really great being able to.
I had multiple ways to go, grab Hard Knocks what doesn't kill me
or have an ally to play. Right, OK.

(47:34):
And then so tell me a little bitmore about your kind of approach
while playing. Yeah.
So my first practice game, I ended the game with two
fireballs in front of me. And after that practice game,
yeah, yeah, I I got pretty scared because it's like, man,

(47:57):
if this, if he double activates or activates at all, you know,
if I have two fireballs in frontof me, that's eight damage that
could just potentially kill me depending on how the game goes.
So after that first game, I decided I was really going to
lock into a stun lock build. So Iron Fist, electrical
Discharge, being able to get those stuns on Ebony Moth so he

(48:21):
just can't activate and bring down the counters and through my
plays I just wanted to really pump the damage.
I did decide to put 3 assessor situations in there to just
really help being able to get more cards in the next round and
to have more money to pay for the high cost attack events that

(48:46):
I did did have and be able to play allies to do even more
damage. Well, and you don't have a bunch
of resource generators, you know, you have a helicarrier and
that's it. So.
We can't forget though, that we do have a Milano in this one.
Oh yeah, forgot about that. And that.
Was so you do have, Yeah. Yeah.

(49:07):
And that's really helpful for setting up early, being able to
get an extra ally down or an extra, you know, maybe getting
the winter rifle down first round or having that extra
resource to put down the player side scheme.
Yeah, you really are incentivized to try to take

(49:30):
advantage of status effects against Ebony Law, and you're
not not a hero that really wantsto flip down that much.
And the threat threshold only being 6 on this scenario makes
it even scarier. So you're really need to resort
to stuff, right? I think I flipped down maybe one
time and it's because I was ableto get his preparation, silent

(49:52):
infiltration to go off, which confuses an enemy, right?
So I flipped down to take advantage of that because he
doesn't really get much out of flipping down.
He has the safe house which willgo get a minion, but again,
there's only two in here. So I never, I never played the
safe house that that was a resource every time.

(50:13):
Yeah, I saw. I've, I've not played Bucky very
much, but I definitely noticed because I played in something
where, you know, the minions were a bit big and scary if
House was, you know, I didn't even use it every time I flip
down when I had it. And obviously in this scenario
with only two minions. Yeah, I don't know if it's super

(50:33):
great in solo play. It really depends on the
situation. I think if I was in a
multiplayer game, I'd probably trigger it every time.
Let your friends go. Yeah, I have friends to help.
And I'm like you, I've, I've maybe played two games of Winter
Soldier before this round. And I told my my Alliance group

(50:54):
I, you know, I wanted to play him because, you know, I had not
played him in protection yet. And he, he was new.
I, I wanted to play. I was actually really hyped that
he was in the round, you know, considering they just came out
at the time of, you know, the round being announced.
So the the final season, we're getting flooded with all the new

(51:15):
heroes. So that's that's what.
I know it's really exciting. How about Grant Ward?
So you tell me about, tell me what your feelings about Grant
Ward. I actually love Grant Ward, I
think he's awesome, especially, you know, a 220.
You can't defend with them, which is fine, especially in

(51:38):
this build. I don't plan on taking a lot of
attacks so. And he has the the forced
response after reveal A treachery.
You may spend a mental resource if you do not take damage equal
to Grant Ward's attack and remove Grant Ward from the game.
So even if you do hit a treachery and you don't want to

(52:01):
pay the cost again, I'm not getting attacked very often.
So being able to take that damage to use what doesn't kill
me is another bonus in my eyes, being able to get that ready
again. Yeah, I think, I think this card
is a real measuring stick of howmuch loss aversion a person has.

(52:24):
Grant Ward, when I first played him he came in the Maria Hill
deck and as Maria Hill I didn't want to take damage so I was
kind of skeptical to play him. But with with Bucky or maybe
even some beefier heroes, I don't see why not to just slot
him in, especially if you need threat removal help or even a

(52:45):
little damage. Agreed, And so how did your
actual rounds go? Any any highlights?
Yeah, so my rounds, I got a fourround win, A5 round win and then
my last round I actually ended up getting a three round win,
which I was. I was really happy with it.

(53:05):
The game went so smooth. I was able to do 12 damage the
first turn and then seven damagethe second turn and then 13
damage the third turn. And I pretty much had to do that
13 damage or I also, I was probably looking at a very long
game. OK, maybe not.

(53:26):
But I pulled out, I had 6 spellsin front of me on that third
turn. And it's like, OK, I don't want
to deal with these spells. We want to find this damage.
Wow, so you you would have even taken a very non clean win at
that point. It it definitely could have

(53:47):
could have skewed that way. I had exactly 13 damage that
last round. I was lucky enough I actually
took a picture of the round because I was so excited about
it. Yeah, that's always a good
moment. But yeah, being able to get the
allies down to help clean some stuff up and clean the board up.

(54:10):
Yeah. Oh, I love it.
I love it. OK what?
Any any parting thoughts? No, you know, it's, it's a first
round of, you know, season 20 and we got to have the Milano in
play. I just I, I.
Felt like I didn't have any issue paying for things.

(54:32):
The games that I had the Milano and the Helicarrier down, I felt
like I had extra resources. So it's just like I I didn't
have any issues flying through it.
So it was a fun round for me. It's kind of fun doing a little
smash with a new hero. Yep, perfect.
Well, Chase, thanks for for dropping by and we'll, we'll

(54:54):
chat soon. Yeah, for sure.
Thank you. And joining us is so amazingly
bad. Amazingly bad.
Hello, how are you doing? So fine could be better because
I just lost the game, but MarvelChampions game, but you know, it
is what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's late your time earlier my time.

(55:17):
And you were you had your your weekly Marvel Champions game
tonight. Yeah, exactly.
We were trying to defeat MansionAttack in expert mode and sadly
Avalanche was a little bit too harsh for us.
Right, Yeah, I like mansion attack a lot of, I don't feel
like that scenario gets a lot ofdiscussion actually.

(55:40):
I don't really see people talk about it very much, but I I
really like that scenario. Yeah, I quite like it, but
currently with the heroes that like to take minions from
encounter deck, it's quite This scenario is very annoying.
I was playing Winter Soldier andit wasn't a great idea to use

(56:02):
spoil for the fight or looking for trouble because I was
milling the deck so hard. Next time I would I would change
my approach to the scenario. Right.
And the the minions are pretty nasty.
This I didn't mind like mistake maybe some some a little bit

(56:24):
more problematic because Winter Soldier has a lot stuff to kill
minions. But there was this side scheme
which gave the tough to all minions at the same time when
they were entering. So it was a little bit on the
hearts, I would say. Have you have you played Mansion

(56:49):
Attack with the sci-fi modular from Mojo instead of using the
regular Brotherhood set? This time not.
But didn't we play the mansion attack previously in model
Modoclick? No, we haven't.
We haven't played mansion attackyet, but it was it was one of

(57:10):
the challenge scenarios from Conof Hero's two or three years
ago. It was one of the ones they did
where it was using the sci-fi modular set instead of the
Brotherhood 1. So because it's all this, you
know, more or less all the same minions, but they're they're all
the robot, the funny robot versions.

(57:31):
I didn't try it but I think it'sa good idea.
Maybe when I will come back to mention attack after some time.
Yeah, well, if you if you look on the Kind of Heroes page, you
can find the challenge cards they have.
I can't remember if there's anything else going on with that
scenario, but it's really fun because those Dominions are way
more annoying, those versions ofthem, right?
There's ones that can only take a maximum of one damage per turn

(57:53):
or whatever it is. I can't remember all the things,
but they're all they're all a little tougher than the actual
Brotherhood versions. Yeah, I played, I think one of
the module packs scenario with that sci-fi module lately.
Yeah. And I was like looking at the
BLOB and I thought, OK, he he's gonna get only one damage and
they look on the on the Brotherhood version of the the

(58:17):
BLOB and he didn't have it. So I know why I have the
flashback. OK, yeah, yeah, now, now I think
it's clear because I had some kind of strange feelings today,
OK. And then I now and I now
understand why, OK. And the sci-fi was very
annoying. Yeah, it is.
Yeah. Yeah, good that we didn't play

(58:38):
it because the this group that I'm playing like the level is a
little bit lower on the lower side like yeah so yeah, they
they don't like that much I would say harsh.
And we know environment that forexample you provide in model
click so. Right, Right.
Yeah, right. So you, you are relatively new

(59:00):
to the league. I when I'm looking on the
overall score, I see you're justabout to break 100 XP.
You're at 99 XP. So that means you've been around
for approximately 2 seasons and and you remember when you
joined, right? Yeah, season 18 the road Rd.
with mention attack which is funny.
Right, right. Yeah.

(59:21):
So full circle, we're coming back to mention attack.
And so you're in, Yeah, you're in Flight 3.
You're doing pretty well. But you, you know, you would
need to get some more XP to be able to bump up to Flight 2.
And the the sad thing is, is theleague will probably wrap up
before you have a chance to do that.
Yeah, But you know. It was very, very good

(59:43):
experience like I even wanted tocome back to some scenario, but
I don't know if there is a like if there I will check some
previous one and maybe there is some kind of funny I would say
set up and I will try to do it for myself.
But yeah, said that. So Champions League is going
down, but maybe someone will come up with some something else

(01:00:06):
to. Take care of one hand
experience. Right, exactly.
And there there is I think somebody that's probably going
to go through and just make a nicely tabulated version of what
all the different challenges hasbeen have been right.
So it'll be by the end, it'll be20 * 5, right.

(01:00:27):
So there's a hundred hundred scenarios that ends with bear
has created for for people to totry.
So lots of chance to go back andtry some of the old ones if you
want. I think a good idea.
Sadly time is very limited but. Right, right, right.

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But you ended up deciding to play, talking about this round
twenty, the first round in season 20, so against Ebony Maw
and you ended up deciding to play domino.
So what made you decide to play domino?
So I looked at the Champions available and there was there

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was Bishop, Black Widow, CaptainAmerica, Domino, Cyclic and
Winter Soldier. And for every league that I play
there is one criteria that I'm following at the start.
So it was something that I didn't play before.
So here it was Domino and it wasPsylocke.

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I played the rest. So I just thought Domino could
be fun. I look at her.
Kid Yeah, I love. Domino Yeah, yeah.
But I looked at her kid. To be honest, I don't really
like her kid. Like looking at it And I I had
some I I don't really yet get her, I would say.

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But I saw one thing that you could do with Domino, you could
use this stop hitting yourself and do some crazy damage.
And like my attitude towards like many challenges that I'm
like taking part is just looked at the marvel DTV to search for

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some ideas from other players. And I found the deck with Stop
hitting Yourself. And yeah, I thought it could do
some damage and it definitely can do a lot of damage with
Domino because she has three defence.
So I just went with it. And like I, I, I played it like

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4 * 1, the practice 1 and the practice 1 was so smooth that I
didn't really change anything. Nearly like I put one ally and
that was it. Like Domino was great in this,
this, this. I would say challenge, stop
hitting yourself. I think I'm once or twice hit

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for eight damage plus 3 posts, so 11.
OK. Set up that for round two or
round 3. So yeah, it was quite crazy.
I would say damage. Right.
So I maybe I'll just lift off a few cards for folks.
So this is based on you started with a deck from lack of
subtlety called You're about to make a huge mistake.

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And this one has three copies ofStop hitting yourself.
And then in terms of defense boosters for events, there's
desperate defense and repost, both of which boost your defense
by two. So there's you've got 6 events
that boost your defense by two and then you've got an armored
vest in there and. I think that's Domino Domino 1

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Domino upgrade which gives you tools for the discarded cards or
+2 basic activation. Yes, that is that is my.
I love that card. So that would call probability,
probability fields. So that let that lets you for

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any basic power, you can discarda card and get plus one per
thing. But if of course, if it's a
wild, it's +2. So it's often going to be +2.
And and so that's that's a base defensive 5 when you defend.
And then so you yeah, you can get pretty high.
That's really fun. So you played that and then you
what you added to this deck was you ended up adding the Miles

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Morales Spider Man basic ally. What made you decide to add
that? Like I thought I need some a
little bit boost to thwarting. I think as as I recall my
thought process because like I in first game I'm I was a little
bit low on this. So I thought that maybe one one

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another card could help. To be honest, I think I could
cut some more cards to put some decent allies in their place.
But the games were I that smooththat I always could do some
event one and even some faster. And my I think my longest,

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longest play was like 5 terms. So I think, you know, there
could be a little bit, I think some changes to the deck, but I
think it was good enough that they didn't need anything else.
OK, well, so well let's I'll go through your performance real
quick and then maybe you can tell us a little bit more about
your strategy and, and how the games actually went.

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So you had, you know, perfect win percentage, you got full
five stars for turns. Like you said, your slowest
round was only 5. You had a villain score of five,
you had a hero score of five. You got the challenge bonus,
which was, you know, how fast you went, which was .8.
So that's basically the second highest that we see out of

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anybody. So you, you were in the kind of
top tier of how fast people wentand then because of the way the
scoring works and you just get your best 5 categories, you can
have one or two categories whereyou don't do as well.
And so for your key, your schemescore, you had only two stars.
So I'm my guess, is the main scheme advanced once or twice on
you, is that right? Yeah, I did the advanced strike

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once and in the I think the lastthe the longest game, I left
some scheme on the on the board as I recall.
Right, right, just get it done And and so.
This was the problem like if I had any problem in this
scenario, it was the treat management and I just like I

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didn't have much time as I said,like I did it in the last two
days and the preparation was in the last two days.
So I just had to do it very fast.
So I just like a little bit yellow that so.
Gotcha, gotcha. So yeah, please finish.
Yeah, this is my to be honest, this is my general approach to
the easiest scenario. In the like the standard one,

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I'm mostly trying to be as fast as possible and I didn't, I
don't really do much tries. Like in some more difficult
scenarios, I'm trying to do somepractice games.
In the easier one, I'm trying todo it in our five tries, with
three, with three tries, you know the the official one.

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Yeah, a lot. Yeah, I, you know, what actually
ended up happening is a lot of the folks in my alliance in this
in this round put it off for waytoo long and then just decided
to put together a deck and play it knowing that, you know, the
heroes were powerful and they were likely to be successful or
highly successful. So kind of the same thing that
you you were saying. I'm.

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So I'm curious, what was your, you know, your overall strategy?
You're saying this is the first time you've really played
domino. How are you thinking of kind of
how you're approaching the actual games?
To be honest, I tried to find some Domino upgrades so the like

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how it's like probability field,peep the pack and painted lady
because I wanted to. I wanted to flip with the deck
is that's why I have a problem with scheme as well, because I
was mostly flipping every term and that's why ready for fight
was there. So at least once or twice I used

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it in this games. So I wanted to have the biggest
hand possible and the most option I had like and and and
this pretty much it's like this this what for what I was aiming
for like this free upgrade cardsand support cards and the rest

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Everything was OK. I I try to have at least one
event in every hand so I can do some impact.
And I think like I skipped all the allies from domino because
they are too slow. And once I have a domino pistol

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because I didn't have anything else to play, but you know, I
just tried to use as much eventsas possible to be as quick as as
possible and it somehow worked. Yeah, that's very, very fair.
Is there any any of the moments from your games really kind of
stand out? Anything you remember?
Like, as I said, like the 11 damage term in defence.

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Yeah, yeah, it, it was quite good.
I think the only, the only problem in that case that the I
couldn't manage the scheme. So I got the one scheme
additional on the main scheme. So I just lost some points but
that's it. Well, and it turns out you
didn't lose points because of just the way the new scoring

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works. So, so you got the, you got the
glory of getting an 11 damage defend and then it didn't cost
you anything. Yeah, yeah.
But if I, you know, I don't, I'mnot really into the scoring
system, so I didn't know that you can do it like this and.
It works like this. But it's always good to know

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something something new. Right, right.
OK, well, I love it. That's that's great fun.
And so this current round, what are you, what are you deciding
to play? Or have you decided which hero
you're going to play? So I choose Iceman because I
didn't play him before. Right.
Yeah, and there is at least one deck with that is interesting

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for me. I can't even check how it how
it's called. I think there is one deck that
have a lot of supports, but I, Ididn't, I, I don't have it
prepared so I I don't remember, but I will be basing on one of
the decks that is currently on Marvel DTB so.

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Perfect. First time Iceman, it's always
good to to try something new. Like this is my approach to all
the the challenges like in modoclick or STLI always choose
the the champion that I didn't play.
So this is This is important to to to to try something new.
This is a way that you explore the game.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly like when I before I started challenges and
so we are league and still I wasgoing, you know, box by box and
I was trying to play Galaxy MostWanted.

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Right. And it was very exhausting.
So I, I, I, I stopped and changed and we switched to
Mutant Genesis company with the,the group that I'm currently
playing. And it's much, you know, more
enjoyable. I tried to even do the most
Galaxy wanted with the cars thatwe had at that point.
So, you know, just wait 1 and 2.Right.

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And it was painful trying to usethe root and rocket to to take
care of especially collector onelike collector 1 was so annoying
for me. But yeah, the rest, the rest was
quite, quite OK. Even Nebula.
Nebula was quite, quite OK. And Ronan, I stopped before

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Ronan because I didn't have timeto play it and it's on the shelf
right now. Gotcha.
OK, Well, you know, thank you for coming on and telling us a
little bit about your experiencein this last round.
And do you have any any final thoughts to share before before
we end our chat? Like if if someone if someone

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you know. I think that some players should
should just participate in that kind of league just to try new
things or try to be a little bit, you know, are there a
challenge sometimes I know that a lot of people hesitant to play

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something else that is like specified on the main mind
scheme. So this, you know, only the
standard setup is how they play and I think it's you are losing
a lot when you are not trying tochange something and try to do
new side schemes or some additional, I would say set up

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cards. So I think that everyone should
try challenges like this to fully experience the game.
I love that sentiment. I I really agree solo Champions
League, you know, allowed me or caused me to try a lot of

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combinations I wouldn't have tried or even just play some
heroes that I really wouldn't have pulled out on my own as
much. And, you know, I've mentioned it
before, but you know, a hero like Doctor Strange who often
makes a lot of the challenges feel not very hard or
interesting when there's this solo Champions League scoring

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that sits on top of it. And what you're actually
thinking of, it is more like an optimization puzzle.
How do I use this very powerful tool to defeat this scenario as
quickly as possible? It all of a sudden becomes more
interesting to me. So I've really appreciated even
that aspect of it where you knowit.
It makes a lot of the stuff that's in the boxes that I have

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feel fresh again. Yeah, meant I'm really glad
that, you know, I found out about STLI was like I start
playing Marvel Championship 2021and I was like at first I was
doing it slowly and I had like I've sometimes I have trouble
with motivation to play. And when I when I found out that

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there is the league and there they are, you know, we have a
one month to complete the challenge and because later you
cannot like submit your score, Ifound some additional like a
boost to, you know, to to play the game.
And it really helped me to to like Marvel champions granting
my top one game that I played inreal life.

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And there are some games that I play a lot of on board game
arena or play franchise. So yeah, it did give me a lot of
boost to to to try and to play play more.
So I'm very I appreciate that the work that that was that was

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put into this league. And I hope that someone else
will do similar thing later on. Yes, agreed, agreed.
So, so amazingly bad. Thank you so much for for
joining. And you know we will continue to
interact over in Modoc League aswell.
It's been great to have you overthere.

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And and listeners, thanks for for staying tuned.
Yeah, thank you for the for the invitation.
I really appreciate it. And maybe some shout out to
maybe there is an police player there like me.
Please. Yeah.
Yeah, so hello Polish community.Awesome, awesome.

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Thank you. Yeah.
Thank you and have a good day.