A Saturday night melody turns into a sharp look at trust, taste, and the stories we buy—whether it’s dinner at the door or a main event on TV. We start with the simple question of who handles your food and end up unpacking who handles the creative that’s supposed to hook us for two hours. From locker room wisdom about fan‑brought dishes to a true tale of food poisoning on the road, the theme is the same: standards matter, and so does accountability.
We dig into WWE’s rumored creative shakeup and spell out what’s actually missing: hot opens with purpose, cliffhangers that carry through the entire show, and long‑term booking that rewards weekly attention. Teddy explains why on‑screen authority only works when it feels real—tone, consequence, and timing—while Mac maps how segment‑by‑segment programming killed momentum. We talk ticket prices, fan value, and the need for coherent storytelling that respects a modern audience.
There’s love for the indie scene, too: promoters who do it right, veterans who put local talent over, and regions like Georgia that are wide open if someone protects finishes and builds a local identity. We wade into women’s hardcore wrestling with respect for consent and a clear line on safety; there’s a difference between controlled danger and reckless spectacle, and fans can feel it. Along the way, we keep it human—pineapple on pizza, a treasured ’64 truck, running gags with the live chat—because community is the heartbeat of wrestling and why we show up every week.
If you want sharper storytelling, real stakes, and a product that earns your time and money, this conversation lays out the playbook. Tap follow, share with a friend who misses cliffhangers, and leave a review with your boldest fix for weekly TV—what would you change first?
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SPEAKER_03 (00:10):
Another Thursday night, and I there's a song in
my head, and I can't.
It's another Saturday night.
That's the song that just hit mein my head.
You remember that song, Teddy?
Another Saturday night, and Iain't got no money or something
like that.
Something humping and I got justgot paid.
SPEAKER_00 (00:30):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Road Trip
After Hours.
I'm your co-host, WWE Hall ofFamer Teddy Long.
The person that uh you'relistening to over there that
just home up.
I have no idea who he is, and Ihave no idea what he's talking
about.
SPEAKER_03 (00:45):
There is an old song.
You know what I'm talking aboutbecause we said Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (00:50):
Another Saturday night.
It was by Sam Cook.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (00:52):
That's that's it.
Sam Cook, man, there you go.
There you go.
I knew it was somebody.
Okay, that's it.
All right.
What you want to talk about,Teddy?
You can talk about whatever youwant to talk about.
I want to bring this up to you.
I was out tonight with my wife.
SPEAKER_00 (01:08):
We grabbed an early dinner, and I'm watching the
What did you do to get theopportunity to go out with your
wife?
Boy, you've been really well,you did tell me you've been
cutting grass.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (01:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was working hard yesterday.
I deserved to nine it out.
Yeah.
Well, I noticed the differentdelivery people, like the door
dashes and people like that thatcome in, they get people's food
and they deliver it.
Teddy, what some of the peoplepicking up that food, I don't
want them touching my food, muchless.
(01:40):
I mean, they don't have shoes ontheir feet, they're walking in
there, they smell like hell.
And I know this isn't all ofthem, but I've seen enough of
these delivery drivers overtime.
Would you trust your food withsomebody like that?
SPEAKER_00 (01:54):
All right, listen, let me tell you something.
I have never had a meal fromDoorDash or any of that stuff
you call to get food.
I never ordered that.
I ain't letting nobody bring menothing in a bag that I ain't
seen.
And here you're gonna cometalking about hey, here's your
food.
I don't know who you are.
Who delivered that?
You know what I mean?
You know, I I I like I said, Idon't do it.
SPEAKER_03 (02:13):
Yeah, I I think it's absolutely crazy.
And I see what people pay forthat too.
You I'm thinking, all right, soyou spent X amount of dollars on
this food, and then you paid anextra sum of money just to have
somebody deliver it to you.
So the price of that meal is wayup there because the delivery
charges are not really cheap atall.
SPEAKER_00 (02:32):
No, it's it's no, I like I said, I don't believe in
doodash and I mean to each hisown, but I don't I don't eat, I
wouldn't order nothing.
I wouldn't eat off that if itwas free.
SPEAKER_03 (02:42):
No, I look, I've always been that way.
And I know like in wrestling,I'm sure there were times uh
that you would go to a show,especially back in the territory
days, where people wouldprobably bring you food or say,
here, I got some uh cookies Imade or some cake.
How much of that would youactually eat?
Because I know a lot of guysthey were frightened of eating
that stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (03:01):
Well, you didn't eat none of it.
Uh I remember back in the day,there was this lady, she loved
Dusty, God rest his soul.
And she every uh taping atCenter Stage, she'd always bring
Dusty some collard greens orsomething she done cooked a
meal, but she'd always bring himsomething, you know what I mean?
And he'd accept it from her, butnobody never ate that, man.
Because you can't you can't dothat.
And I'll tell you a good storyabout that.
(03:22):
Me and Ron Simmons, Butch Reed,uh, God Rest His Soul.
We was in Baltimore, Marylandone night.
We was at the bar.
So we meet these girls andthey're there talking to us and
everything.
So they start talking to Butch.
He gets all excited.
Now, me and Ron, we know better,okay?
Here comes Butch, he's runningover to it.
Hey, these girls would, youknow, let's go over to the crib,
man.
They're gonna cook dinner andthey're gonna do everything for
(03:44):
us.
So we look at we look at Butchand we Butch, we're not going to
nobody's house and eat.
We don't know them.
He got hot, cussed us out,cussed me and Ron out.
I mean, and left and went on tothe girls' house, just where he
was the next day.
SPEAKER_03 (03:57):
He's probably still at that house.
SPEAKER_00 (04:00):
Hospital, food poison.
That's a true story.
Ron Timmer gonna tell you that.
SPEAKER_03 (04:08):
I bet he never did that again after that.
SPEAKER_00 (04:11):
I know well, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (04:12):
We you don't you don't know, but look here.
WWE is reportedly said to beundergoing a significant
creative shakeup followingmonths of fan backlash and
criticism over the company'sstorytelling direction.
Now, sources close to thesituation, and this is per body
(04:32):
slam, is that the creativedepartment is discussing how to
refine the company's approach tolong-term booking and
week-to-week TV centered aroundenhancing narrative cohesion and
restoring fan engagement to geta more consistent and
emotionally rewarding product.
(04:56):
Teddy, I I I can't disagree.
This is probably overdue becausethe creative Yes, yes, yes, it
is.
SPEAKER_00 (05:03):
Yeah, yeah, you're exactly right.
I mean, you know, summer changesthe winter.
So I, you know what I mean?
It's time for change.
You know, you got, you know,people have been doing this for
I don't know how long, how long,how long, because they won't
give other people theopportunity of giving them a
chance.
So uh, you know, like I said,I'm I'm I'm with that all the
way.
I mean, you know, it's it's anew era now, you know what I
mean?
(05:23):
So it it's you got to give thisto some new minds, you know,
people that think differentlyfrom what they did back in uh
1990s and all that stuff.
That's fine, don't get me wrong.
But I wish we could go back tothe attitude era plus and and
update the attitude area intothe into the 20th century now.
SPEAKER_03 (05:40):
And I think that's Jenny, I was just gonna say, I
thought, and I think a lot ofpeople did that when WWE went to
Netflix that we were gonna getthat edgier product again, like
the Attitude Era, and they justgave us the same thing they've
been giving us, and it's notenough.
And I think enough fans nowbecause your prices of your
(06:01):
tickets keep going up and up tothe price where most people
can't afford them, and yourproduct is going down.
How do you justify paying thatmuch money for a product that
basically is stale right now?
SPEAKER_00 (06:13):
Well, I don't know.
You know, uh first of all, let'ssay good evening to Herb
Simmons.
He's joined us.
Uh Herb Dreck, glad to have youon board, player.
Uh yeah, Herb, ladies andgentlemen, he's the owner and uh
operator of SICW uh Call of FameWrestling over in St.
Louis and all around theMissouri area there.
It has a lot of greatindependent wrestling shows.
And him and along with NickRidnard, man, they do a great
(06:34):
job.
So, Herb, always thank you forjoining us.
SPEAKER_03 (06:36):
Yeah, and by the way, uh, any of you young indie
guys that want a place to gowrestle, uh, where they wrestle
like they used to and presentthe stories that way, you should
contact Herb Simmons and see ifyou can get a shot at uh maybe
getting on his SICW showsbecause uh he's old school and I
love the way they present those.
It's still an old schoolprogram.
SPEAKER_00 (06:57):
See very cool.
And the other thing, gettingback to our thing, you know
what, you know, it's still justpeople just still running things
on whether they like you or not.
You know what I mean?
Golly, when is this gonnachange?
You know, even in this business,you can do your job and I mean
and still get stepped on, youknow.
So it's it's it's unbelievable.
So that's what I'm saying, man.
(07:17):
It just needs to be a change.
You know, it needs to be peoplethat have not been raised up
that old way, and only thingthey know to do is if they don't
want you on TV, they blackballyou and call around and you
know, don't use him.
He, you know, and all that kindof stuff.
It's it's it's it's and you knowwhat?
I'm glad you brought that upbecause I was looking at the a
documentary the other night, youknow, the one that there was uh
(07:39):
a thread of a the fear of ablack quarterback.
I watched that, and that Ilearned a lot from that.
So it's just think professionalwrestling, it's in every sport,
you know what I mean?
Yes, yes.
So, and when I see things likethat, I feel a lot better, you
know, because I'm I'm like,okay, well, it it they weren't
picking on me.
Is this how this is how it is,you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03 (08:00):
Well, no, no, I wouldn't I wouldn't say that.
Not that they weren't picking onyou.
Uh you were just you weren't theonly one being picked on.
Let's put it that way.
SPEAKER_00 (08:08):
Well, yeah, okay, we can put it that way.
Yeah, but that's but that's whatI mean when I feel better about
it, because I always thought,well, is it what have I done?
I'm doing, you know, what what'sthe problem?
But you know, it's no problem.
It's just that's just the waythat the way it is.
SPEAKER_03 (08:21):
One of the things I worry about when it comes to the
creative and WWE Teddy is that alot of the guys who handle
creative are the higher ups.
So if your higher-ups are theones doing creative, they're not
gonna step down and let somebodyelse get in their shoes.
And that's pretty much whatyou're saying, aren't you?
That's uh that these folks haveeventually got to realize even
(08:42):
though you're not on screen,behind the scenes, you can even
become something that's adetriment and not a help
anymore.
SPEAKER_00 (08:49):
Right.
That's like being that's likebeing a writer.
You know, if a guy comes up witha better storyline than you and
he keeps coming up with thisevery week, you know, now you're
gonna look at him as a threat.
SPEAKER_03 (09:01):
You see, do you think that new writer will have
a chance without being eaten upby those who are already there?
SPEAKER_00 (09:07):
Well, I you know, it's hard to say because he that
writer that's walking in there,he's a mark.
Okay, he really doesn't know youknow what you and I know.
So it's hard to say.
So when you're like that, man,you you know you're just on the
job training.
SPEAKER_03 (09:22):
Well, I hope the best because they need a new
creative direction.
There's no doubt about that.
And the numbers have beenshowing that consistently, uh,
with both Raw and SmackDown.
Uh, so it's something that uhthey've got to be concerned
about.
Pretty classy lady uh stoppingin and saying, Hey, good to see
you in here, pretty classy lady.
SPEAKER_00 (09:39):
Thank you very much.
Joining us every week.
Thank you, pretty classy lady.
I was talking to uh the Denise,uh, she was asking me about who
is Pretty Classy Lady, and uh,so I had to explain.
I don't know, never met her, butshe's always on the show every
week, Denise.
So that's it.
And she's a mystery to me.
SPEAKER_03 (09:54):
And pretty classy lady is a mystery because she's
mentioned a couple of things.
It's like, does she live nearwhere I live?
I I part of me thinks that too.
But I look, we appreciate youbeing here each and every week.
It's always good to haveeverybody pop in and see us
again on a weekly basis becauseTeddy and I do this, we don't
make a nickel from this, not anickel.
We just do this because we enjoydoing this, and it's something
(10:15):
that we told each other about.
SPEAKER_00 (10:16):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You speak for yourself.
Okay, I would like to be makingnickels.
SPEAKER_03 (10:22):
Okay, all right.
I'd rather be making dimes andquarters if that's the case.
All right, uh, let's see, we gota lot of people in here right
now.
Let me get some of these uhfolks in here.
Ellen is in here.
Hey, good to see you.
I hope uh bet uh buddy iswatching as well.
Good to see you, buddy.
SPEAKER_00 (10:37):
If you are buddy, uh, we hope buddy got his shirt.
We sent him a t-shirt.
So uh Ellen, uh let us know.
SPEAKER_03 (10:44):
Forgetting to post that up.
She sent me a picture of himwearing the t-shirt.
I I've got to get that and showit to you, Teddy.
SPEAKER_00 (10:49):
Well, I'd appreciate it, Mac.
Okay, I will please we get youget your memory intact, will
you?
SPEAKER_03 (10:56):
Stay off the mountain.
My my memory.
Uh Zach Minger.
Hey, Zach, good to see you inhere, brother.
International beer and pizzaday, Mac and Teddy.
SPEAKER_00 (11:06):
Well, you're talking to the wrong guy, and I say guy
because Mac will go for the beerand pizza.
I'm not gonna do it.
SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
I'll go for the pizza.
Not too much on the beer.
Beer blokes me up, but uh, youknow, I but you uh well go, but
you still drank it.
SPEAKER_00 (11:18):
I see you drink it.
SPEAKER_03 (11:20):
I only if I have to, I'd rather have some.
SPEAKER_00 (11:22):
Only if you have to.
What do you mean only if youhave to?
SPEAKER_03 (11:25):
If it's still alcoholic around, I never even
heard of that.
SPEAKER_00 (11:29):
You like Boogie Man.
One night he's telling me, youknow, he that he wasn't gonna
drink that night.
You know, we had went and gotsome beer, and he said, Well,
uh, I don't think I'm gonnadrink nothing tonight, but he's
reaching over into the bucket,opening it up while he's saying
that.
But he'll tell you that story.
Okay, I said, Boogie, we I said,You're not gonna drink.
No, I don't I don't think I'mgonna have one tonight.
(11:51):
And he's reaching over and thenhe's popping the top off saying
no.
SPEAKER_03 (11:55):
Oh man, look, you know, that's something that we
ought to try to do uh betweennow and maybe uh Halloween if we
get a chance.
Uh we've had Boogie on, I thinkalmost every uh year in October,
we've had him on the show.
Uh, you might want to reach outto him to see if he wants to
come live with us on a Thursdaynight.
SPEAKER_00 (12:11):
Okay, well, I'll uh in fact I talked to him last
night.
Uh he's been uh pretty busy.
You think you talked to him lastnight?
What do you mean you think?
Uh my memory, you okay.
I'm not ashamed.
Okay, I'm not ashamed.
If I can't remember, I can't Ican I can't hide it no more.
Okay, but I did, but I did talkto him last night, so he's uh
(12:32):
been he's been out there doing alot of stuff.
So I will get a hold of him andsee if he can uh I'm chill here.
But you know, me and him, wealways cool.
He can spare us a little time.
SPEAKER_03 (12:40):
Yeah, and and he is always uh one of those
inspirational kind of guys whenyou talk to him and you hear
some of the stories and thethings that he does.
Go by his webs, uh his website,uh, by his Facebook page.
SPEAKER_00 (12:51):
See how see that?
There you go.
I was I was dating myself sayingwhat's I'm begging you to just
put it down, please put it down.
SPEAKER_03 (12:58):
But his Facebook page has got a lot of
inspirational things on it.
Stop by and check out Boogeymanbecause uh you'll love some of
that stuff.
And hopefully we can get him onthe show.
That would be cool.
SPEAKER_00 (13:06):
Okay, I'll give him a call.
We I think we can make thathappen.
SPEAKER_03 (13:09):
Look, before I get into a pretty classy lady's
comment, uh Zach uh was talkingabout pizza.
Teddy, do you like pizza?
SPEAKER_00 (13:16):
Uh, I haven't had pizza in God knows when, but
when I was eating it, I likedthe vegetarian.
Uh, I also like the pine uhpineapple hamburger.
SPEAKER_03 (13:25):
So that's what I was gonna ask you.
So you are a pineapple and pizzaguy, huh?
SPEAKER_00 (13:29):
Yeah, yeah.
No, I like that one, thepineapple's on it.
That was good.
SPEAKER_03 (13:33):
Ooh, look, I won't be honest, I've only tried it
once and it wasn't that great,but it could have been the where
I got it.
Maybe that was the problem.
Yeah, I'm always open to tryingit again on somewhere else.
But I have had pepperoni pizzawith sliced apples on top.
Teddy, it sounds horrible.
(13:54):
I tried it.
Man, that's a hell of a goodcombination.
It actually is really good.
I mean, it's got to be a good,you know, like a green apple
slice.
SPEAKER_00 (14:02):
But that's the way it is sometimes when you with a
name or stuff like that.
You think, gee, apples andpizza?
Come on.
And but then once you try it,you know, it's a whole different
thing.
SPEAKER_03 (14:12):
Yeah.
Um, okay.
Well, we get uh pretty classylady back on here.
She says, Okay, that answers myquestion.
I won't bring y'all any bananapudding to the meet and greet.
SPEAKER_00 (14:21):
No, because I don't, I don't, I'm pretty classy lady.
I don't eat nobody's bananapudding but uh Denise.
I'm gonna just be straight upwith you, man.
SPEAKER_03 (14:29):
I would say that too, but I haven't had any yet.
SPEAKER_00 (14:31):
So and uh we you may not never have any.
We're gonna I tell you what, Itell you what, are you gonna go?
I I haven't uh they haven't letme new yet, but uh we may be
going to Rascal Cade thenWinston Salem, North Carolina
next month.
You know, they have that everyyear.
So if they finalize that, if youwant to go, then uh I'll I'll
(14:54):
have Denise uh make make us somebanana pudding.
SPEAKER_03 (14:57):
I hear you.
That's boy, that sounds goodtoo.
Oh, homemade banana pudding,too.
SPEAKER_00 (15:03):
She she looked like she's you know, put uh you know,
what's the old saying?
You put your foot in it.
SPEAKER_03 (15:07):
Oh, yeah.
Well, she no, she put some lovein it.
Yeah, that's the differencenowadays, Teddy.
I am convinced when I grew up,my grandmother and my
great-grandmother were stillalive, and the cooking that they
could do back then, I haven'tseen it.
And and this is not a knock onmy wife, but she doesn't even
come close.
They cook from scratch,everything tasted so much better
(15:31):
back then.
And I believe it's because theytook their time with it
nowadays.
More people are inclined just torush a meal, put it together,
and eat it.
And uh back then they put ittogether, man, and they took
their time.
And when you sat down, that wasthe best thing you ever put in
your mouth.
SPEAKER_00 (15:45):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (15:46):
I'm gonna go to the house.
SPEAKER_00 (15:48):
Let's give a big shout-out to Mission Smith.
He's joining us.
Uh, you know, mission over therewith Mission on Championship
Wrestling out of Michigan.
Yeah, had a chance to go and dosome stuff with him this year,
him and his son, man.
What two, what two great people,man.
So thank you for joining us,Mission, and say hello to your
son.
SPEAKER_03 (16:03):
And let's see, we also have Michael Steele popping
it again.
That's my man, Michael Steele.
SPEAKER_00 (16:09):
Michael, I still have my truck after over it's
about 22, 23 years now, but Istill have my 64 truck.
And Michael used to, he sent mesome stuff to clean my truck one
time, and golly, that was thebest stuff I've ever had.
But you know over the years Ilost it and I haven't added
board.
But Michael, he he's the man.
SPEAKER_03 (16:28):
Let me ask you, is that where you got the truck
from?
Is that is that no?
SPEAKER_00 (16:31):
No, I didn't get it from Michael, but Michael saw
it, and uh when the Michael justwanted this, you know, help me
clean it up a little bit, so hesent me some stuff to clean
with, man.
But it was it was unreal.
SPEAKER_03 (16:40):
Yeah, Michael, I've seen that truck.
Uh, the first time I saw it, I Iasked Tenny about it
immediately.
In fact, we showed it on one ofour shows just by chance because
you had to walk down throughyour garage to do something
while we were live, and we got achance to see the uh the truck
then.
But yeah, man, I love thattruck.
By the way, he is saying aboutthe uh the SmackDown and Raw
shows, WWEs.
That's it needs to be lesspredictable, and I agree with
(17:04):
that.
It needs to be less predictable,and we need more cliffhangers.
You you need to draw people fromthe start of a show to the end
of a show, and from one show tothe next show, and from one show
to a pay-per-view or PLE.
It's not difficult.
SPEAKER_00 (17:19):
And the other thing, too, you know, there used to be
a time when you cut like they'dopen up Raw SmackDown and with a
great big hot open.
You know, we don't have that nomore.
No, you know, and uh, and theother thing too, you know, like
you'd always watch, and this issomething Vince always did at
the beginning of that show whenhe did that hot open and he and
they showed that.
Well, he would always think andsay, Well, hey, somebody might
(17:41):
have joined us a little bitlate.
So maybe 20 minutes later,you'll hear to uh the
announcers, Michael Cole nearhim and said, Well, in case you
did weren't with us when wefirst joined, in case you didn't
wasn't able to join us when Rawstarted off the night, here's
what happened.
SPEAKER_03 (17:55):
Yeah, but you know, but Teddy, here's the thing that
they did different back then isthat when they started a show,
they didn't start and end asegment all in one.
He would start the show, andthat opening segment would
probably play out through theentire show and in an
accrescendo at the end of theshow, so you get your biggest
(18:17):
and loudest pop, and you carrypeople to the end of the
program.
They don't do that anymore.
Now it's just programming forthe segment, and that's to me
what has killed the professionalwrestling that we knew is that
when you're booking just forthat segment, there's no reason
to continue to watch at the endof the segment.
SPEAKER_00 (18:36):
Well, the thing is now, man, I in my opinion, I
think it's just too muchwrestling.
SPEAKER_03 (18:41):
Oh, I thought I think that too.
From one company now, from onecompany, uh I think one company
needs to be careful becausethey're gonna water down their
own product and they're gonnamake other people look a lot
stronger.
I still contend that AEW and TNAare in a great position right
now with everything that'shappening with WWE.
The only thing is TNA has got tobe careful about uh their you
(19:02):
know their working relationshipwith WWE because if you're TKO
and WWE, who are you looking outfor?
WWE or are you looking out forTNE?
You know that that that'd be theonly thing I'd say to be careful
about.
SPEAKER_00 (19:15):
That's self-explanatory.
SPEAKER_03 (19:17):
Yeah, and uh you were just talking about uh
mission, and here it is.
Uh Attitude Era was the best.
That and the ruthless aggressionarea really were the best.
SPEAKER_00 (19:26):
Well, you can make it happen now.
You know, it's all you gotta dois go back.
You know, it says uh repackage.
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03 (19:33):
Yeah, you know, and he also says that Teddy Long,
general manager with attitudeera story vibe.
Yeah, we need more of that too.
Uh, because Teddy, I know youwatch the product from time to
time and you see some of thesegeneral managers.
I look at Nick Aldous, who is aphenomenal wrestler, he's a
great talent, but he's he justdoes these same kind of little
skits in the back where hethrows a match together and
(19:54):
there's not much to him.
There's you don't really feellike there's a lot of authority
when he hits the screen like youdid.
SPEAKER_00 (20:00):
They don't give him any power.
And Vince gave me power.
Yeah, and the reason Vince gaveme power is because he knew that
my deliverance, when I got readyto deliver something, it was
good, it would it would meansomething and it would be
believable.
So that's what I'm saying.
Right now, I seen um, and Iunderstand what you're saying.
I seen something with uh uh notNick all this uh Adam uh Pierce,
(20:23):
and uh you know he was talkingto the guy and he was trying to
be mad, but he wasn't.
You know what I mean?
You're the you're the GM, you'rethe you're the boss, and you
would, if you could remember,I'd I'd get into it with some
guys, and one of them wouldprobably take their finger and
you know hit me right in mychest.
I'd act right to that.
I'd get, hey, don't put yourfinger on me.
Yep, and I'd press my suit offor something like don't put that
(20:46):
on.
You know what I mean?
That's the way it needs to be.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:49):
All right, guys, we gotta step away real quick, real
quick, and then we'll come backbecause we gotta open up the
mailbag here.
SPEAKER_02 (20:56):
The International Professional Wrestling Hall of
Fame Awards Ceremony, live fromAlbany, New York.
We welcome the class of twentytwenty-five.
SPEAKER_03 (22:43):
And that is one of the most uh interesting tunes
that Teddy always requests wehave on the show every week
because he loves us so much.
SPEAKER_00 (22:50):
And I see you fulfill that request every week.
SPEAKER_03 (22:54):
Every single week.
All right, let's see.
We got some more uh folks inhere.
By the way, if you want to be apart of the show, and there's a
lot of things in here right now,uh, all you have to do is just
drop it in the comment section.
We'll throw it up on the screen.
There's no super chats, anythingelse, and uh anything goes.
Uh we'll answer anything thatyou have up on the screen to the
best of our ability.
Teddy usually uh, even if hedoesn't want to answer it, we'll
(23:15):
go out of his way to try to giveyou something at least.
Uh 40 ounce C dub.
Hey, brother, thinkingdifferently is what the dance uh
is what the dance we all loveneeds, and getting priced out
should also give these otherpromotions a chance to grab the
fallen.
Just have to be the thing that'smissing.
Yeah, I you know, and he worksin the independence quite a bit.
(23:35):
You see him in a lot of placesand in Teddy.
I I do think that it there isplenty of opportunity even for
the independence right now,because for a lot of fans who
can't afford those WWE tickets,it's independence, is where
you're I say this, I say thisall the time.
SPEAKER_00 (23:50):
Georgia, this right now here in Georgia, this
territory is wide open.
If they brought somebody gotstarted here and then did it
right, every time somebodystarts something here, they
won't they won't do the rightthing.
Soon as they get to making alittle money and things go to
getting good, then they go toscrew it up.
They go to doing something thatthey know they shouldn't be
doing.
Or they want to get involved inthe show when they know they got
(24:10):
no business involved in theshow.
Okay, so like I said, ifsomebody came in Georgia and did
it right, did the right thing,this could be, I mean, a very
good territory for you.
Because, like you said, with theprice of wrestling and stuff
going up, then just to haveanother good show, people would
pay to watch, you know, and thenthey're local, they're at home,
ain't a whole lot of travelingand all that.
(24:30):
I think it would be absolutelygreat.
SPEAKER_03 (24:32):
And and the one thing that a lot of independents
make the mistake of, too, isthat uh you got to remember that
when you bring in some of thesestars to your shows, the stars
don't necessarily need to be theones that are going over, they
need to be putting over talent.
You need to be building yourchampion so that fans come back
even when that star is no longerthere.
SPEAKER_00 (24:51):
And that's why I have a lot I have the utmost
respect for Billy Gunn.
He was a guy that was like that.
I remember when we worked out inFlorida one time, uh with uh
indie promotion there, and I waskind of here running that.
And I went to Bill and talked tohim, and Billy on the studio
said, Oh, yeah, no, I'm leaving.
I'm I'm I'm you know, I'm hereto make the guy, you know, to
make the guy look good.
So that's what I'm saying.
And plus, it ain't TV.
(25:12):
No, these guys will come in likethey're on TV and don't want to
put nobody over, you know what Imean?
But they want to get theirmoney, you know.
So you got to understand it's aworth, gentlemen.
unknown (25:21):
Yep, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (25:23):
All right, uh Mission saying, uh, we need
wrestling storylines like Kaneand Undertaker.
We need something that carriesyou through years of, and it is.
We need storylines that arelonger than just 15 minutes, and
and that's something that uhhopefully they're gonna work on.
Uh Bruce uh popping in saying,Hey, Teddy and Mac, couldn't see
(25:43):
you in here, Bruce.
And uh let's see, pretty classylady saying, Hey Denise, I'm
just a fan.
SPEAKER_00 (25:54):
Uh oh.
Well, thank you, thank you,classy lady.
You got me out of the doghouse,all right?
Thank you.
SPEAKER_03 (26:03):
All right, let's see what else we got.
Scott Lance uh popping in.
I used to work with Scott Lancein the independence.
I'm I'm not sure if he's stillin the house.
I remember him.
Yeah, Scott Scott was a great uhmanager and uh uh official.
Um, did WWE provide the amazingsuits you wore on screen, or
were you always just thatdapper?
He's talking to me, of course.
(26:24):
Okay, well, answer no, I'm justkidding.
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00 (26:27):
Uh no, WWE didn't have nothing to do with that.
That was all my creation.
My my like I said, I tell peopleall the time, I wasn't a
character, I was Teddy Long.
The way that you see me on TV,that was the way I was at home
and everywhere.
Like I said, I'm like that.
And if you meet me right now,it's player this, player that.
So uh, no, putting the suits on,well, you know, well, when I was
a young man back in the streetsa little bit, you know, I was
(26:49):
kind of dapper like that.
So I just uh kind of went backto my old ways.
SPEAKER_03 (26:54):
Dressing up and looking nice.
I would imagine is that whenVince came up and he's like,
Hey, I want you to be a generalmanager, did he say wear a suit,
or did were you already wearinga suit at that point in the
back, anyhow?
SPEAKER_00 (27:05):
No, I done all the dressing came from me.
He didn't tell me to put onnothing or nothing.
I just came up with the suit andmy tie and all that.
That because I knew that's howyou're supposed to look.
Yep, yeah.
Okay, I understood that my myown self.
SPEAKER_03 (27:19):
Yeah, he trusted you enough to know he'll come up
with what he needs.
I don't need to tell him.
SPEAKER_00 (27:23):
And then, like I said, they didn't never even
tell me that I was gonna be ageneral manager until five
minutes before we went on theair.
That's when they let me knew.
I didn't even know it.
SPEAKER_03 (27:33):
Good thing you weren't wearing gin pants and
sneakers.
SPEAKER_00 (27:36):
No, well, I was, you know, I had the suit on because
you know I'd been managing guystoo, you know what I mean.
So yeah, but they like I said,they didn't tell me nothing
until five minutes before ithappened.
SPEAKER_03 (27:46):
Let's see, Thomas McClure popping.
Hey Thomas, good to see you inhere.
Uh, what's up, Mr.
Mac and Mr.
Teddy?
It's been a while.
How have you guys been?
SPEAKER_00 (27:53):
Hey man, we've been great, man.
Good to hear from you.
SPEAKER_03 (27:56):
Yeah, absolutely.
Uh 40 ounce C dub.
How drunk were you?
SPEAKER_00 (28:01):
Uh who's he talking to?
SPEAKER_03 (28:03):
I don't know.
Maybe you're the one drinking 40ounce.
Uh let's see.
Yeah, right.
So, how drunk were you?
40 ounce club also saying, bringthat pudding my way, classy
lady.
Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_00 (28:18):
Which pudding is he talking about?
SPEAKER_03 (28:20):
Uh what now?
SPEAKER_00 (28:26):
Are you with us today?
SPEAKER_03 (28:28):
No, no, no, no, no.
I just uh I was just trying tobite my tongue, but I had
another comment.
I was like, no, I better not saythat.
Pretty classy lady.
What do you both of the what doboth of y'all think of women
having these hardcore matches?
I don't like seeing womenbleeding, and it's even worse
when they get hurt.
Teddy, what are your thoughts onthe hardcore matches in women?
SPEAKER_00 (28:49):
Well, this is professional wrestling, and uh,
I think when women decide thatthey want to do this, they also
decide that they're gonna haveto go with whatever comes with
this.
Um, I don't like to see womenbleed either because that's
something that we just don'tnormally see, but it's it's
brand new and it's just part ofour business.
So uh, you know, and I think Igot a lot of respect for the
(29:11):
women that do it because if theywant to put themselves through
these hardcore matches, andthose things are rough, you
know, a lot of that you can'twork it, you know.
So uh yeah, so those girls toget beat up and take a lot all
that pain and punishment likethat, you know, I have the
utmost respect for you.
SPEAKER_03 (29:27):
You know, I want to get to see Trish again this
coming weekend for the uh Hallof Fame and open in New York.
And I remember talking to her,we were on our show back when we
had our one-year anniversary,and I had said something to her
that, you know, about you knowhow hard she went in that match
because I wanted to see, I don'tknow why, but in that particular
(29:48):
match between Trish Stratus andBecky Lynch inside the steel
cage, as hard as Trish went inthat match to prove a point that
women can do a cage match aswell, I wanted to.
See a little bit of blood.
I really did.
And they didn't do it.
And I think maybe because theywere afraid of how people would,
you know, see you know a womanbleeding.
(30:09):
But I think that it could havebeen the extra little cherry on
top that may have added to thatmatch to me.
SPEAKER_00 (30:15):
Well, yeah, that that you know, like I said, it's
it's it's gotta be what it'sgonna be.
So uh, you know, if you're gonnado hardcore, then you gotta have
the blood.
SPEAKER_03 (30:23):
Yep, I agree.
Because I think the fans expectit really.
Uh Bruce Couch, Teddy and Mac,what is your favorite vegetable
to eat?
And how do you like thatparticular vegetable cooked?
Steamed, fried saute, Teddy?
SPEAKER_00 (30:39):
Uh, I don't know.
I don't really have no favoritevegetable.
SPEAKER_03 (30:42):
Um, I tell you what, I think you like, and I think
it's the same thing I do becauseI've seen us both eat it.
I I do like green peppers andonions that are put in the just
kind of you know flipped in thepan, stir-fry a little bit.
And yeah, I do love that maybe alittle bit of steak or chicken.
That's really good to me.
SPEAKER_00 (30:58):
I like squash.
You know, yeah, I had some ofthat at Whole Foods.
I well, that's why I get myfood.
I can't cook, so so I go toWhole Foods every day and I get
food for me and Ruby.
SPEAKER_03 (31:10):
No, no, no, no, no.
You go to Denise's, that's whatyou do.
SPEAKER_00 (31:13):
Well, I well, I well, then when I go to do with
Denise, I don't have to worryabout no cooking, man.
That's all great.
And then I oh man, it's justit's it's it's it's great, I'm
telling you.
SPEAKER_03 (31:23):
Pretty classy lady.
Uh it's okay if someone to dothat style, but all women
shouldn't be expected to.
SPEAKER_00 (31:30):
Well, they're not let me say this, they're not
forcing them to do that.
You know what I mean?
That's on they they make thatdecision on themselves.
I'm pretty sure if there was agirl there that said, Hey, I
don't want to do that, I'm notgonna do that, then they
wouldn't force her to do that.
So when they go out there and dothose hardcore matches, they've
made they've made up in theirmind and they made the decision
to say yes.
SPEAKER_03 (31:48):
Yeah, I think even in the case I was just talking
about Trish Stratish and BeckyLynch, I think Trish Stratus was
the one that pushed for thatmatch because she wanted to make
a point uh about women and youknow in that type of match uh
inside WWE.
So yeah, I think they have afull choice uh when it comes to
the women if they want to ornot.
And that goes for anybody,really.
Anyone can say, Hell no, I'm notdoing that.
(32:09):
You know, if they put me on topof the scaffold 30 feet above
the ring, I'm not falling fromthat.
I don't care what you pay me.
You know, it might be catchingme.
SPEAKER_00 (32:17):
You know who I'd like to see hardcore?
SPEAKER_03 (32:19):
Who's that?
SPEAKER_00 (32:20):
Is uh Ronda Rousey and Naya Jack.
SPEAKER_03 (32:24):
Oh, ooh, but yeah, but that'd be that'd be real.
SPEAKER_00 (32:27):
That that why you think I say it, yeah, man.
SPEAKER_03 (32:32):
Uh let's see.
All right, uh, we're running outof time.
40 ounce seat.
Um uh, yep, them stoned episodeswhere he was beating people up
all night long.
Yeah, stone cold.
Yeah, and they would stone coldto come out at the beginning of
a raw or you know, whatever showhe was on, and it wasn't the
only time you saw him.
He was there in the opening, hewas there in the middle, he was
again there just before the end,and then at the end.
(32:54):
It was just the way that youkept people watching the show.
And nowadays, a lot of peopledon't even watch the full two,
three hours, whatever the showmay be.
Most people now are watchingjust little clips here and there
of what happened the nightbefore.
So, even keeping that liveaudience, which is what their
problem is right now, is is verydifficult because things have
(33:15):
changed so much when it comes tohow we consume uh what we get.
You know, at one time TV, that'sall we had.
We didn't have the internet, soit was a lot easier to make
people watch the entire twohours.
Nowadays, there's a lot ofcompetition out there, yeah.
Uh, we also have uh uh Scott uhthrow it so why manager managers
(33:36):
are not used anymore.
As a manager myself, I know theynever get involved in the
action, but the only mouthpiecenow is Paul Heyman.
Should they bring him back?
SPEAKER_00 (33:49):
No comment.
SPEAKER_03 (33:50):
I I think that we need to have more managers.
I I would love to see that.
Yeah, yeah, we need to.
SPEAKER_00 (33:57):
We need to, but then when they're when they're what
uh I'm gonna leave it alone.
SPEAKER_03 (34:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't want you to get introuble, brother.
Um, Mission Smith.
Uh let's say I seen your workrecalling the show in Michigan.
Teddy, you are the best.
SPEAKER_00 (34:12):
All right, no problem.
Thank you very much.
SPEAKER_03 (34:15):
And let's see, uh, we also got uh Jesse popping in
saying, Hey Jesse, it's good tosee you in here, my friend.
Wow, just put on a great cagematch with Miami Sweet Heat
versus Penelope Pink and HulkHolly Swag.
I'm sorry, bro.
I'm trying to read this quick.
What is this?
They blood really sold the heat.
Oh okay, they had a blood matchbetween the two, okay.
(34:37):
Uh between the two women, and wewill now have Miami Sweet Heat
at the next event in November.
Shameless plug.
That's all right, man.
Get your shows over.
Independence event.
Don't be afraid to do that.
You want to come here and putyour show over?
Feel free to do so.
Exactly.
Uh, also, uh, mission saying,favorite hardcore match that you
have ever seen, Teddy.
SPEAKER_00 (34:59):
Oh man, probably back in the day with ECW and
those were those were pretty,they were pretty rough, man.
With those, especially with uhthe Bob wire and all that stuff.
Man, they they they were prettyhardcore.
I think ECW was they they theydidn't get no no no no better
than that.
SPEAKER_03 (35:17):
No, now I've seen some of these death matches that
they have now, also that you canfind online.
Some of that stuff, I the lightcues and stuff.
Man, I don't understand that.
I know there is an audience forthat, but I it there's just so
much that can go wrong in amatch like that.
SPEAKER_00 (35:33):
It's very hard to why would you want to do that to
yourself anyway?
SPEAKER_03 (35:37):
I I really don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (35:39):
You're not mentally stable if you want to set
yourself on fire and uh uh uhwhat's this electric stuff they
put on your eye, all that stuffthat they're doing.
Jesus.
SPEAKER_03 (35:50):
Now I've been through a flaming table, but
there were a lot of precautionsfor that uh that I don't see
taking place anymore.
Uh, you know, I the guy I wasworking with was actually a
firefighter, uh, you know, justthe kind of uncover everything
else.
But yeah, we were completelysafe in that.
Uh, but nowadays, the thingsthey do, there is no safety
there.
You can't take a light tube andyou know and crack it over
(36:11):
somebody's head and not thinkthat that that you know the
glass is not going to cut themwide open, you know, especially
around the neck.
I think was it David Arquette?
I think he was involved in amatch a few years ago, and he he
was coming back, and somehow hestarted having just blood
gushing out of his neck and hehad to go to the hospital.
No, no, no, that's not that'sthat's not good for that.
Uh, Michael popping in saying uhhello and uh asking us how we're
(36:34):
doing.
Doing great, man.
I'm glad to see you in here.
And guys, I hate to cut usloose, but we're about uh 40
minutes into the show right now.
They're gonna cut us off if Idon't.
So we gotta get out of here.
Teddy, uh, anything uh if youcan remember anybody uh about
the questions that we hadtonight, anybody you want to
throw the shirt to?
SPEAKER_00 (36:51):
Uh let's send 40 ounce uh shirt, man.
40 ounce C dub.
All right, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (36:58):
I will see we'll send that nut something here.
He he's crazy as hell.
Hey guys, we appreciate this.
Uh, but you know, pretty soon uhthis is gonna be where you'll
find Teddy and I all the time.
Uh, because our show with SportsKeto uh is coming to an end.
They're closing that particularpart of the uh site down.
Uh so it will be coming to anend.
(37:19):
You'll find Teddy and I overhere with all of our special
stuff.
We'll probably have Bill Afterpop in once in a while because
uh No, we will not.
No, okay, no, we won't.
SPEAKER_00 (37:29):
I'm just kidding, man.
We'd love to have Bill.
SPEAKER_03 (37:32):
Yeah, man.
And we do this every Thursdaynights live, seven o'clock.
It unlike a lot of the othershows you go to where they ask
you for money to ask thequestions, we don't do that.
So just come and enjoy yourself,be a part of the program.
Uh, anything goes anytime whenwe're here.
Seven o'clock Thursday nights,it's road trip after hours.
I'm your host, Mack Davis, andthat, of course, is WWE Hall of
(37:54):
Famer Teddy Long.
Holoplayers.
Another Thursday night, and I there's a song in
my head, and I can't.
It's another Saturday night.
That's the song that just hit mein my head.
You remember that song, Teddy?
Another Saturday night, and Iain't got no money or something
like that.
Something humping and I got justgot paid.
SPEAKER_00 (00:30):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Road Trip
After Hours.
I'm your co-host, WWE Hall ofFamer Teddy Long.
The person that uh you'relistening to over there that
just home up.
I have no idea who he is, and Ihave no idea what he's talking
about.
SPEAKER_03 (00:45):
There is an old song.
You know what I'm talking aboutbecause we said Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (00:50):
Another Saturday night.
It was by Sam Cook.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (00:52):
That's that's it.
Sam Cook, man, there you go.
There you go.
I knew it was somebody.
Okay, that's it.
All right.
What you want to talk about,Teddy?
You can talk about whatever youwant to talk about.
I want to bring this up to you.
I was out tonight with my wife.
SPEAKER_00 (01:08):
We grabbed an early dinner, and I'm watching the
What did you do to get theopportunity to go out with your
wife?
Boy, you've been really well,you did tell me you've been
cutting grass.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (01:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was working hard yesterday.
I deserved to nine it out.
Yeah.
Well, I noticed the differentdelivery people, like the door
dashes and people like that thatcome in, they get people's food
and they deliver it.
Teddy, what some of the peoplepicking up that food, I don't
want them touching my food, muchless.
(01:40):
I mean, they don't have shoes ontheir feet, they're walking in
there, they smell like hell.
And I know this isn't all ofthem, but I've seen enough of
these delivery drivers overtime.
Would you trust your food withsomebody like that?
SPEAKER_00 (01:54):
All right, listen, let me tell you something.
I have never had a meal fromDoorDash or any of that stuff
you call to get food.
I never ordered that.
I ain't letting nobody bring menothing in a bag that I ain't
seen.
And here you're gonna cometalking about hey, here's your
food.
I don't know who you are.
Who delivered that?
You know what I mean?
You know, I I I like I said, Idon't do it.
SPEAKER_03 (02:13):
Yeah, I I think it's absolutely crazy.
And I see what people pay forthat too.
You I'm thinking, all right, soyou spent X amount of dollars on
this food, and then you paid anextra sum of money just to have
somebody deliver it to you.
So the price of that meal is wayup there because the delivery
charges are not really cheap atall.
SPEAKER_00 (02:32):
No, it's it's no, I like I said, I don't believe in
doodash and I mean to each hisown, but I don't I don't eat, I
wouldn't order nothing.
I wouldn't eat off that if itwas free.
SPEAKER_03 (02:42):
No, I look, I've always been that way.
And I know like in wrestling,I'm sure there were times uh
that you would go to a show,especially back in the territory
days, where people wouldprobably bring you food or say,
here, I got some uh cookies Imade or some cake.
How much of that would youactually eat?
Because I know a lot of guysthey were frightened of eating
that stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (03:01):
Well, you didn't eat none of it.
Uh I remember back in the day,there was this lady, she loved
Dusty, God rest his soul.
And she every uh taping atCenter Stage, she'd always bring
Dusty some collard greens orsomething she done cooked a
meal, but she'd always bring himsomething, you know what I mean?
And he'd accept it from her, butnobody never ate that, man.
Because you can't you can't dothat.
And I'll tell you a good storyabout that.
(03:22):
Me and Ron Simmons, Butch Reed,uh, God Rest His Soul.
We was in Baltimore, Marylandone night.
We was at the bar.
So we meet these girls andthey're there talking to us and
everything.
So they start talking to Butch.
He gets all excited.
Now, me and Ron, we know better,okay?
Here comes Butch, he's runningover to it.
Hey, these girls would, youknow, let's go over to the crib,
man.
They're gonna cook dinner andthey're gonna do everything for
(03:44):
us.
So we look at we look at Butchand we Butch, we're not going to
nobody's house and eat.
We don't know them.
He got hot, cussed us out,cussed me and Ron out.
I mean, and left and went on tothe girls' house, just where he
was the next day.
SPEAKER_03 (03:57):
He's probably still at that house.
SPEAKER_00 (04:00):
Hospital, food poison.
That's a true story.
Ron Timmer gonna tell you that.
SPEAKER_03 (04:08):
I bet he never did that again after that.
SPEAKER_00 (04:11):
I know well, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (04:12):
We you don't you don't know, but look here.
WWE is reportedly said to beundergoing a significant
creative shakeup followingmonths of fan backlash and
criticism over the company'sstorytelling direction.
Now, sources close to thesituation, and this is per body
(04:32):
slam, is that the creativedepartment is discussing how to
refine the company's approach tolong-term booking and
week-to-week TV centered aroundenhancing narrative cohesion and
restoring fan engagement to geta more consistent and
emotionally rewarding product.
(04:56):
Teddy, I I I can't disagree.
This is probably overdue becausethe creative Yes, yes, yes, it
is.
SPEAKER_00 (05:03):
Yeah, yeah, you're exactly right.
I mean, you know, summer changesthe winter.
So I, you know what I mean?
It's time for change.
You know, you got, you know,people have been doing this for
I don't know how long, how long,how long, because they won't
give other people theopportunity of giving them a
chance.
So uh, you know, like I said,I'm I'm I'm with that all the
way.
I mean, you know, it's it's anew era now, you know what I
mean?
(05:23):
So it it's you got to give thisto some new minds, you know,
people that think differentlyfrom what they did back in uh
1990s and all that stuff.
That's fine, don't get me wrong.
But I wish we could go back tothe attitude era plus and and
update the attitude area intothe into the 20th century now.
SPEAKER_03 (05:40):
And I think that's Jenny, I was just gonna say, I
thought, and I think a lot ofpeople did that when WWE went to
Netflix that we were gonna getthat edgier product again, like
the Attitude Era, and they justgave us the same thing they've
been giving us, and it's notenough.
And I think enough fans nowbecause your prices of your
(06:01):
tickets keep going up and up tothe price where most people
can't afford them, and yourproduct is going down.
How do you justify paying thatmuch money for a product that
basically is stale right now?
SPEAKER_00 (06:13):
Well, I don't know.
You know, uh first of all, let'ssay good evening to Herb
Simmons.
He's joined us.
Uh Herb Dreck, glad to have youon board, player.
Uh yeah, Herb, ladies andgentlemen, he's the owner and uh
operator of SICW uh Call of FameWrestling over in St.
Louis and all around theMissouri area there.
It has a lot of greatindependent wrestling shows.
And him and along with NickRidnard, man, they do a great
(06:34):
job.
So, Herb, always thank you forjoining us.
SPEAKER_03 (06:36):
Yeah, and by the way, uh, any of you young indie
guys that want a place to gowrestle, uh, where they wrestle
like they used to and presentthe stories that way, you should
contact Herb Simmons and see ifyou can get a shot at uh maybe
getting on his SICW showsbecause uh he's old school and I
love the way they present those.
It's still an old schoolprogram.
SPEAKER_00 (06:57):
See very cool.
And the other thing, gettingback to our thing, you know
what, you know, it's still justpeople just still running things
on whether they like you or not.
You know what I mean?
Golly, when is this gonnachange?
You know, even in this business,you can do your job and I mean
and still get stepped on, youknow.
So it's it's it's unbelievable.
So that's what I'm saying, man.
(07:17):
It just needs to be a change.
You know, it needs to be peoplethat have not been raised up
that old way, and only thingthey know to do is if they don't
want you on TV, they blackballyou and call around and you
know, don't use him.
He, you know, and all that kindof stuff.
It's it's it's it's and you knowwhat?
I'm glad you brought that upbecause I was looking at the a
documentary the other night, youknow, the one that there was uh
(07:39):
a thread of a the fear of ablack quarterback.
I watched that, and that Ilearned a lot from that.
So it's just think professionalwrestling, it's in every sport,
you know what I mean?
Yes, yes.
So, and when I see things likethat, I feel a lot better, you
know, because I'm I'm like,okay, well, it it they weren't
picking on me.
Is this how this is how it is,you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03 (08:00):
Well, no, no, I wouldn't I wouldn't say that.
Not that they weren't picking onyou.
Uh you were just you weren't theonly one being picked on.
Let's put it that way.
SPEAKER_00 (08:08):
Well, yeah, okay, we can put it that way.
Yeah, but that's but that's whatI mean when I feel better about
it, because I always thought,well, is it what have I done?
I'm doing, you know, what what'sthe problem?
But you know, it's no problem.
It's just that's just the waythat the way it is.
SPEAKER_03 (08:21):
One of the things I worry about when it comes to the
creative and WWE Teddy is that alot of the guys who handle
creative are the higher ups.
So if your higher-ups are theones doing creative, they're not
gonna step down and let somebodyelse get in their shoes.
And that's pretty much whatyou're saying, aren't you?
That's uh that these folks haveeventually got to realize even
(08:42):
though you're not on screen,behind the scenes, you can even
become something that's adetriment and not a help
anymore.
SPEAKER_00 (08:49):
Right.
That's like being that's likebeing a writer.
You know, if a guy comes up witha better storyline than you and
he keeps coming up with thisevery week, you know, now you're
gonna look at him as a threat.
SPEAKER_03 (09:01):
You see, do you think that new writer will have
a chance without being eaten upby those who are already there?
SPEAKER_00 (09:07):
Well, I you know, it's hard to say because he that
writer that's walking in there,he's a mark.
Okay, he really doesn't know youknow what you and I know.
So it's hard to say.
So when you're like that, man,you you know you're just on the
job training.
SPEAKER_03 (09:22):
Well, I hope the best because they need a new
creative direction.
There's no doubt about that.
And the numbers have beenshowing that consistently, uh,
with both Raw and SmackDown.
Uh, so it's something that uhthey've got to be concerned
about.
Pretty classy lady uh stoppingin and saying, Hey, good to see
you in here, pretty classy lady.
SPEAKER_00 (09:39):
Thank you very much.
Joining us every week.
Thank you, pretty classy lady.
I was talking to uh the Denise,uh, she was asking me about who
is Pretty Classy Lady, and uh,so I had to explain.
I don't know, never met her, butshe's always on the show every
week, Denise.
So that's it.
And she's a mystery to me.
SPEAKER_03 (09:54):
And pretty classy lady is a mystery because she's
mentioned a couple of things.
It's like, does she live nearwhere I live?
I I part of me thinks that too.
But I look, we appreciate youbeing here each and every week.
It's always good to haveeverybody pop in and see us
again on a weekly basis becauseTeddy and I do this, we don't
make a nickel from this, not anickel.
We just do this because we enjoydoing this, and it's something
(10:15):
that we told each other about.
SPEAKER_00 (10:16):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You speak for yourself.
Okay, I would like to be makingnickels.
SPEAKER_03 (10:22):
Okay, all right.
I'd rather be making dimes andquarters if that's the case.
All right, uh, let's see, we gota lot of people in here right
now.
Let me get some of these uhfolks in here.
Ellen is in here.
Hey, good to see you.
I hope uh bet uh buddy iswatching as well.
Good to see you, buddy.
SPEAKER_00 (10:37):
If you are buddy, uh, we hope buddy got his shirt.
We sent him a t-shirt.
So uh Ellen, uh let us know.
SPEAKER_03 (10:44):
Forgetting to post that up.
She sent me a picture of himwearing the t-shirt.
I I've got to get that and showit to you, Teddy.
SPEAKER_00 (10:49):
Well, I'd appreciate it, Mac.
Okay, I will please we get youget your memory intact, will
you?
SPEAKER_03 (10:56):
Stay off the mountain.
My my memory.
Uh Zach Minger.
Hey, Zach, good to see you inhere, brother.
International beer and pizzaday, Mac and Teddy.
SPEAKER_00 (11:06):
Well, you're talking to the wrong guy, and I say guy
because Mac will go for the beerand pizza.
I'm not gonna do it.
SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
I'll go for the pizza.
Not too much on the beer.
Beer blokes me up, but uh, youknow, I but you uh well go, but
you still drank it.
SPEAKER_00 (11:18):
I see you drink it.
SPEAKER_03 (11:20):
I only if I have to, I'd rather have some.
SPEAKER_00 (11:22):
Only if you have to.
What do you mean only if youhave to?
SPEAKER_03 (11:25):
If it's still alcoholic around, I never even
heard of that.
SPEAKER_00 (11:29):
You like Boogie Man.
One night he's telling me, youknow, he that he wasn't gonna
drink that night.
You know, we had went and gotsome beer, and he said, Well,
uh, I don't think I'm gonnadrink nothing tonight, but he's
reaching over into the bucket,opening it up while he's saying
that.
But he'll tell you that story.
Okay, I said, Boogie, we I said,You're not gonna drink.
No, I don't I don't think I'mgonna have one tonight.
(11:51):
And he's reaching over and thenhe's popping the top off saying
no.
SPEAKER_03 (11:55):
Oh man, look, you know, that's something that we
ought to try to do uh betweennow and maybe uh Halloween if we
get a chance.
Uh we've had Boogie on, I thinkalmost every uh year in October,
we've had him on the show.
Uh, you might want to reach outto him to see if he wants to
come live with us on a Thursdaynight.
SPEAKER_00 (12:11):
Okay, well, I'll uh in fact I talked to him last
night.
Uh he's been uh pretty busy.
You think you talked to him lastnight?
What do you mean you think?
Uh my memory, you okay.
I'm not ashamed.
Okay, I'm not ashamed.
If I can't remember, I can't Ican I can't hide it no more.
Okay, but I did, but I did talkto him last night, so he's uh
(12:32):
been he's been out there doing alot of stuff.
So I will get a hold of him andsee if he can uh I'm chill here.
But you know, me and him, wealways cool.
He can spare us a little time.
SPEAKER_03 (12:40):
Yeah, and and he is always uh one of those
inspirational kind of guys whenyou talk to him and you hear
some of the stories and thethings that he does.
Go by his webs, uh his website,uh, by his Facebook page.
SPEAKER_00 (12:51):
See how see that?
There you go.
I was I was dating myself sayingwhat's I'm begging you to just
put it down, please put it down.
SPEAKER_03 (12:58):
But his Facebook page has got a lot of
inspirational things on it.
Stop by and check out Boogeymanbecause uh you'll love some of
that stuff.
And hopefully we can get him onthe show.
That would be cool.
SPEAKER_00 (13:06):
Okay, I'll give him a call.
We I think we can make thathappen.
SPEAKER_03 (13:09):
Look, before I get into a pretty classy lady's
comment, uh Zach uh was talkingabout pizza.
Teddy, do you like pizza?
SPEAKER_00 (13:16):
Uh, I haven't had pizza in God knows when, but
when I was eating it, I likedthe vegetarian.
Uh, I also like the pine uhpineapple hamburger.
SPEAKER_03 (13:25):
So that's what I was gonna ask you.
So you are a pineapple and pizzaguy, huh?
SPEAKER_00 (13:29):
Yeah, yeah.
No, I like that one, thepineapple's on it.
That was good.
SPEAKER_03 (13:33):
Ooh, look, I won't be honest, I've only tried it
once and it wasn't that great,but it could have been the where
I got it.
Maybe that was the problem.
Yeah, I'm always open to tryingit again on somewhere else.
But I have had pepperoni pizzawith sliced apples on top.
Teddy, it sounds horrible.
(13:54):
I tried it.
Man, that's a hell of a goodcombination.
It actually is really good.
I mean, it's got to be a good,you know, like a green apple
slice.
SPEAKER_00 (14:02):
But that's the way it is sometimes when you with a
name or stuff like that.
You think, gee, apples andpizza?
Come on.
And but then once you try it,you know, it's a whole different
thing.
SPEAKER_03 (14:12):
Yeah.
Um, okay.
Well, we get uh pretty classylady back on here.
She says, Okay, that answers myquestion.
I won't bring y'all any bananapudding to the meet and greet.
SPEAKER_00 (14:21):
No, because I don't, I don't, I'm pretty classy lady.
I don't eat nobody's bananapudding but uh Denise.
I'm gonna just be straight upwith you, man.
SPEAKER_03 (14:29):
I would say that too, but I haven't had any yet.
SPEAKER_00 (14:31):
So and uh we you may not never have any.
We're gonna I tell you what, Itell you what, are you gonna go?
I I haven't uh they haven't letme new yet, but uh we may be
going to Rascal Cade thenWinston Salem, North Carolina
next month.
You know, they have that everyyear.
So if they finalize that, if youwant to go, then uh I'll I'll
(14:54):
have Denise uh make make us somebanana pudding.
SPEAKER_03 (14:57):
I hear you.
That's boy, that sounds goodtoo.
Oh, homemade banana pudding,too.
SPEAKER_00 (15:03):
She she looked like she's you know, put uh you know,
what's the old saying?
You put your foot in it.
SPEAKER_03 (15:07):
Oh, yeah.
Well, she no, she put some lovein it.
Yeah, that's the differencenowadays, Teddy.
I am convinced when I grew up,my grandmother and my
great-grandmother were stillalive, and the cooking that they
could do back then, I haven'tseen it.
And and this is not a knock onmy wife, but she doesn't even
come close.
They cook from scratch,everything tasted so much better
(15:31):
back then.
And I believe it's because theytook their time with it
nowadays.
More people are inclined just torush a meal, put it together,
and eat it.
And uh back then they put ittogether, man, and they took
their time.
And when you sat down, that wasthe best thing you ever put in
your mouth.
SPEAKER_00 (15:45):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (15:46):
I'm gonna go to the house.
SPEAKER_00 (15:48):
Let's give a big shout-out to Mission Smith.
He's joining us.
Uh, you know, mission over therewith Mission on Championship
Wrestling out of Michigan.
Yeah, had a chance to go and dosome stuff with him this year,
him and his son, man.
What two, what two great people,man.
So thank you for joining us,Mission, and say hello to your
son.
SPEAKER_03 (16:03):
And let's see, we also have Michael Steele popping
it again.
That's my man, Michael Steele.
SPEAKER_00 (16:09):
Michael, I still have my truck after over it's
about 22, 23 years now, but Istill have my 64 truck.
And Michael used to, he sent mesome stuff to clean my truck one
time, and golly, that was thebest stuff I've ever had.
But you know over the years Ilost it and I haven't added
board.
But Michael, he he's the man.
SPEAKER_03 (16:28):
Let me ask you, is that where you got the truck
from?
Is that is that no?
SPEAKER_00 (16:31):
No, I didn't get it from Michael, but Michael saw
it, and uh when the Michael justwanted this, you know, help me
clean it up a little bit, so hesent me some stuff to clean
with, man.
But it was it was unreal.
SPEAKER_03 (16:40):
Yeah, Michael, I've seen that truck.
Uh, the first time I saw it, I Iasked Tenny about it
immediately.
In fact, we showed it on one ofour shows just by chance because
you had to walk down throughyour garage to do something
while we were live, and we got achance to see the uh the truck
then.
But yeah, man, I love thattruck.
By the way, he is saying aboutthe uh the SmackDown and Raw
shows, WWEs.
That's it needs to be lesspredictable, and I agree with
(17:04):
that.
It needs to be less predictable,and we need more cliffhangers.
You you need to draw people fromthe start of a show to the end
of a show, and from one show tothe next show, and from one show
to a pay-per-view or PLE.
It's not difficult.
SPEAKER_00 (17:19):
And the other thing, too, you know, there used to be
a time when you cut like they'dopen up Raw SmackDown and with a
great big hot open.
You know, we don't have that nomore.
No, you know, and uh, and theother thing too, you know, like
you'd always watch, and this issomething Vince always did at
the beginning of that show whenhe did that hot open and he and
they showed that.
Well, he would always think andsay, Well, hey, somebody might
(17:41):
have joined us a little bitlate.
So maybe 20 minutes later,you'll hear to uh the
announcers, Michael Cole nearhim and said, Well, in case you
did weren't with us when wefirst joined, in case you didn't
wasn't able to join us when Rawstarted off the night, here's
what happened.
SPEAKER_03 (17:55):
Yeah, but you know, but Teddy, here's the thing that
they did different back then isthat when they started a show,
they didn't start and end asegment all in one.
He would start the show, andthat opening segment would
probably play out through theentire show and in an
accrescendo at the end of theshow, so you get your biggest
(18:17):
and loudest pop, and you carrypeople to the end of the
program.
They don't do that anymore.
Now it's just programming forthe segment, and that's to me
what has killed the professionalwrestling that we knew is that
when you're booking just forthat segment, there's no reason
to continue to watch at the endof the segment.
SPEAKER_00 (18:36):
Well, the thing is now, man, I in my opinion, I
think it's just too muchwrestling.
SPEAKER_03 (18:41):
Oh, I thought I think that too.
From one company now, from onecompany, uh I think one company
needs to be careful becausethey're gonna water down their
own product and they're gonnamake other people look a lot
stronger.
I still contend that AEW and TNAare in a great position right
now with everything that'shappening with WWE.
The only thing is TNA has got tobe careful about uh their you
(19:02):
know their working relationshipwith WWE because if you're TKO
and WWE, who are you looking outfor?
WWE or are you looking out forTNE?
You know that that that'd be theonly thing I'd say to be careful
about.
SPEAKER_00 (19:15):
That's self-explanatory.
SPEAKER_03 (19:17):
Yeah, and uh you were just talking about uh
mission, and here it is.
Uh Attitude Era was the best.
That and the ruthless aggressionarea really were the best.
SPEAKER_00 (19:26):
Well, you can make it happen now.
You know, it's all you gotta dois go back.
You know, it says uh repackage.
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03 (19:33):
Yeah, you know, and he also says that Teddy Long,
general manager with attitudeera story vibe.
Yeah, we need more of that too.
Uh, because Teddy, I know youwatch the product from time to
time and you see some of thesegeneral managers.
I look at Nick Aldous, who is aphenomenal wrestler, he's a
great talent, but he's he justdoes these same kind of little
skits in the back where hethrows a match together and
(19:54):
there's not much to him.
There's you don't really feellike there's a lot of authority
when he hits the screen like youdid.
SPEAKER_00 (20:00):
They don't give him any power.
And Vince gave me power.
Yeah, and the reason Vince gaveme power is because he knew that
my deliverance, when I got readyto deliver something, it was
good, it would it would meansomething and it would be
believable.
So that's what I'm saying.
Right now, I seen um, and Iunderstand what you're saying.
I seen something with uh uh notNick all this uh Adam uh Pierce,
(20:23):
and uh you know he was talkingto the guy and he was trying to
be mad, but he wasn't.
You know what I mean?
You're the you're the GM, you'rethe you're the boss, and you
would, if you could remember,I'd I'd get into it with some
guys, and one of them wouldprobably take their finger and
you know hit me right in mychest.
I'd act right to that.
I'd get, hey, don't put yourfinger on me.
Yep, and I'd press my suit offor something like don't put that
(20:46):
on.
You know what I mean?
That's the way it needs to be.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:49):
All right, guys, we gotta step away real quick, real
quick, and then we'll come backbecause we gotta open up the
mailbag here.
SPEAKER_02 (20:56):
The International Professional Wrestling Hall of
Fame Awards Ceremony, live fromAlbany, New York.
We welcome the class of twentytwenty-five.
SPEAKER_03 (22:43):
And that is one of the most uh interesting tunes
that Teddy always requests wehave on the show every week
because he loves us so much.
SPEAKER_00 (22:50):
And I see you fulfill that request every week.
SPEAKER_03 (22:54):
Every single week.
All right, let's see.
We got some more uh folks inhere.
By the way, if you want to be apart of the show, and there's a
lot of things in here right now,uh, all you have to do is just
drop it in the comment section.
We'll throw it up on the screen.
There's no super chats, anythingelse, and uh anything goes.
Uh we'll answer anything thatyou have up on the screen to the
best of our ability.
Teddy usually uh, even if hedoesn't want to answer it, we'll
(23:15):
go out of his way to try to giveyou something at least.
Uh 40 ounce C dub.
Hey, brother, thinkingdifferently is what the dance uh
is what the dance we all loveneeds, and getting priced out
should also give these otherpromotions a chance to grab the
fallen.
Just have to be the thing that'smissing.
Yeah, I you know, and he worksin the independence quite a bit.
(23:35):
You see him in a lot of placesand in Teddy.
I I do think that it there isplenty of opportunity even for
the independence right now,because for a lot of fans who
can't afford those WWE tickets,it's independence, is where
you're I say this, I say thisall the time.
SPEAKER_00 (23:50):
Georgia, this right now here in Georgia, this
territory is wide open.
If they brought somebody gotstarted here and then did it
right, every time somebodystarts something here, they
won't they won't do the rightthing.
Soon as they get to making alittle money and things go to
getting good, then they go toscrew it up.
They go to doing something thatthey know they shouldn't be
doing.
Or they want to get involved inthe show when they know they got
(24:10):
no business involved in theshow.
Okay, so like I said, ifsomebody came in Georgia and did
it right, did the right thing,this could be, I mean, a very
good territory for you.
Because, like you said, with theprice of wrestling and stuff
going up, then just to haveanother good show, people would
pay to watch, you know, and thenthey're local, they're at home,
ain't a whole lot of travelingand all that.
(24:30):
I think it would be absolutelygreat.
SPEAKER_03 (24:32):
And and the one thing that a lot of independents
make the mistake of, too, isthat uh you got to remember that
when you bring in some of thesestars to your shows, the stars
don't necessarily need to be theones that are going over, they
need to be putting over talent.
You need to be building yourchampion so that fans come back
even when that star is no longerthere.
SPEAKER_00 (24:51):
And that's why I have a lot I have the utmost
respect for Billy Gunn.
He was a guy that was like that.
I remember when we worked out inFlorida one time, uh with uh
indie promotion there, and I waskind of here running that.
And I went to Bill and talked tohim, and Billy on the studio
said, Oh, yeah, no, I'm leaving.
I'm I'm I'm you know, I'm hereto make the guy, you know, to
make the guy look good.
So that's what I'm saying.
And plus, it ain't TV.
(25:12):
No, these guys will come in likethey're on TV and don't want to
put nobody over, you know what Imean?
But they want to get theirmoney, you know.
So you got to understand it's aworth, gentlemen.
unknown (25:21):
Yep, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (25:23):
All right, uh Mission saying, uh, we need
wrestling storylines like Kaneand Undertaker.
We need something that carriesyou through years of, and it is.
We need storylines that arelonger than just 15 minutes, and
and that's something that uhhopefully they're gonna work on.
Uh Bruce uh popping in saying,Hey, Teddy and Mac, couldn't see
(25:43):
you in here, Bruce.
And uh let's see, pretty classylady saying, Hey Denise, I'm
just a fan.
SPEAKER_00 (25:54):
Uh oh.
Well, thank you, thank you,classy lady.
You got me out of the doghouse,all right?
Thank you.
SPEAKER_03 (26:03):
All right, let's see what else we got.
Scott Lance uh popping in.
I used to work with Scott Lancein the independence.
I'm I'm not sure if he's stillin the house.
I remember him.
Yeah, Scott Scott was a great uhmanager and uh uh official.
Um, did WWE provide the amazingsuits you wore on screen, or
were you always just thatdapper?
He's talking to me, of course.
(26:24):
Okay, well, answer no, I'm justkidding.
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00 (26:27):
Uh no, WWE didn't have nothing to do with that.
That was all my creation.
My my like I said, I tell peopleall the time, I wasn't a
character, I was Teddy Long.
The way that you see me on TV,that was the way I was at home
and everywhere.
Like I said, I'm like that.
And if you meet me right now,it's player this, player that.
So uh, no, putting the suits on,well, you know, well, when I was
a young man back in the streetsa little bit, you know, I was
(26:49):
kind of dapper like that.
So I just uh kind of went backto my old ways.
SPEAKER_03 (26:54):
Dressing up and looking nice.
I would imagine is that whenVince came up and he's like,
Hey, I want you to be a generalmanager, did he say wear a suit,
or did were you already wearinga suit at that point in the
back, anyhow?
SPEAKER_00 (27:05):
No, I done all the dressing came from me.
He didn't tell me to put onnothing or nothing.
I just came up with the suit andmy tie and all that.
That because I knew that's howyou're supposed to look.
Yep, yeah.
Okay, I understood that my myown self.
SPEAKER_03 (27:19):
Yeah, he trusted you enough to know he'll come up
with what he needs.
I don't need to tell him.
SPEAKER_00 (27:23):
And then, like I said, they didn't never even
tell me that I was gonna be ageneral manager until five
minutes before we went on theair.
That's when they let me knew.
I didn't even know it.
SPEAKER_03 (27:33):
Good thing you weren't wearing gin pants and
sneakers.
SPEAKER_00 (27:36):
No, well, I was, you know, I had the suit on because
you know I'd been managing guystoo, you know what I mean.
So yeah, but they like I said,they didn't tell me nothing
until five minutes before ithappened.
SPEAKER_03 (27:46):
Let's see, Thomas McClure popping.
Hey Thomas, good to see you inhere.
Uh, what's up, Mr.
Mac and Mr.
Teddy?
It's been a while.
How have you guys been?
SPEAKER_00 (27:53):
Hey man, we've been great, man.
Good to hear from you.
SPEAKER_03 (27:56):
Yeah, absolutely.
Uh 40 ounce C dub.
How drunk were you?
SPEAKER_00 (28:01):
Uh who's he talking to?
SPEAKER_03 (28:03):
I don't know.
Maybe you're the one drinking 40ounce.
Uh let's see.
Yeah, right.
So, how drunk were you?
40 ounce club also saying, bringthat pudding my way, classy
lady.
Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_00 (28:18):
Which pudding is he talking about?
SPEAKER_03 (28:20):
Uh what now?
SPEAKER_00 (28:26):
Are you with us today?
SPEAKER_03 (28:28):
No, no, no, no, no.
I just uh I was just trying tobite my tongue, but I had
another comment.
I was like, no, I better not saythat.
Pretty classy lady.
What do you both of the what doboth of y'all think of women
having these hardcore matches?
I don't like seeing womenbleeding, and it's even worse
when they get hurt.
Teddy, what are your thoughts onthe hardcore matches in women?
SPEAKER_00 (28:49):
Well, this is professional wrestling, and uh,
I think when women decide thatthey want to do this, they also
decide that they're gonna haveto go with whatever comes with
this.
Um, I don't like to see womenbleed either because that's
something that we just don'tnormally see, but it's it's
brand new and it's just part ofour business.
So uh, you know, and I think Igot a lot of respect for the
(29:11):
women that do it because if theywant to put themselves through
these hardcore matches, andthose things are rough, you
know, a lot of that you can'twork it, you know.
So uh yeah, so those girls toget beat up and take a lot all
that pain and punishment likethat, you know, I have the
utmost respect for you.
SPEAKER_03 (29:27):
You know, I want to get to see Trish again this
coming weekend for the uh Hallof Fame and open in New York.
And I remember talking to her,we were on our show back when we
had our one-year anniversary,and I had said something to her
that, you know, about you knowhow hard she went in that match
because I wanted to see, I don'tknow why, but in that particular
(29:48):
match between Trish Stratus andBecky Lynch inside the steel
cage, as hard as Trish went inthat match to prove a point that
women can do a cage match aswell, I wanted to.
See a little bit of blood.
I really did.
And they didn't do it.
And I think maybe because theywere afraid of how people would,
you know, see you know a womanbleeding.
(30:09):
But I think that it could havebeen the extra little cherry on
top that may have added to thatmatch to me.
SPEAKER_00 (30:15):
Well, yeah, that that you know, like I said, it's
it's it's gotta be what it'sgonna be.
So uh, you know, if you're gonnado hardcore, then you gotta have
the blood.
SPEAKER_03 (30:23):
Yep, I agree.
Because I think the fans expectit really.
Uh Bruce Couch, Teddy and Mac,what is your favorite vegetable
to eat?
And how do you like thatparticular vegetable cooked?
Steamed, fried saute, Teddy?
SPEAKER_00 (30:39):
Uh, I don't know.
I don't really have no favoritevegetable.
SPEAKER_03 (30:42):
Um, I tell you what, I think you like, and I think
it's the same thing I do becauseI've seen us both eat it.
I I do like green peppers andonions that are put in the just
kind of you know flipped in thepan, stir-fry a little bit.
And yeah, I do love that maybe alittle bit of steak or chicken.
That's really good to me.
SPEAKER_00 (30:58):
I like squash.
You know, yeah, I had some ofthat at Whole Foods.
I well, that's why I get myfood.
I can't cook, so so I go toWhole Foods every day and I get
food for me and Ruby.
SPEAKER_03 (31:10):
No, no, no, no, no.
You go to Denise's, that's whatyou do.
SPEAKER_00 (31:13):
Well, I well, I well, then when I go to do with
Denise, I don't have to worryabout no cooking, man.
That's all great.
And then I oh man, it's justit's it's it's it's great, I'm
telling you.
SPEAKER_03 (31:23):
Pretty classy lady.
Uh it's okay if someone to dothat style, but all women
shouldn't be expected to.
SPEAKER_00 (31:30):
Well, they're not let me say this, they're not
forcing them to do that.
You know what I mean?
That's on they they make thatdecision on themselves.
I'm pretty sure if there was agirl there that said, Hey, I
don't want to do that, I'm notgonna do that, then they
wouldn't force her to do that.
So when they go out there and dothose hardcore matches, they've
made they've made up in theirmind and they made the decision
to say yes.
SPEAKER_03 (31:48):
Yeah, I think even in the case I was just talking
about Trish Stratish and BeckyLynch, I think Trish Stratus was
the one that pushed for thatmatch because she wanted to make
a point uh about women and youknow in that type of match uh
inside WWE.
So yeah, I think they have afull choice uh when it comes to
the women if they want to ornot.
And that goes for anybody,really.
Anyone can say, Hell no, I'm notdoing that.
(32:09):
You know, if they put me on topof the scaffold 30 feet above
the ring, I'm not falling fromthat.
I don't care what you pay me.
You know, it might be catchingme.
SPEAKER_00 (32:17):
You know who I'd like to see hardcore?
SPEAKER_03 (32:19):
Who's that?
SPEAKER_00 (32:20):
Is uh Ronda Rousey and Naya Jack.
SPEAKER_03 (32:24):
Oh, ooh, but yeah, but that'd be that'd be real.
SPEAKER_00 (32:27):
That that why you think I say it, yeah, man.
SPEAKER_03 (32:32):
Uh let's see.
All right, uh, we're running outof time.
40 ounce seat.
Um uh, yep, them stoned episodeswhere he was beating people up
all night long.
Yeah, stone cold.
Yeah, and they would stone coldto come out at the beginning of
a raw or you know, whatever showhe was on, and it wasn't the
only time you saw him.
He was there in the opening, hewas there in the middle, he was
again there just before the end,and then at the end.
(32:54):
It was just the way that youkept people watching the show.
And nowadays, a lot of peopledon't even watch the full two,
three hours, whatever the showmay be.
Most people now are watchingjust little clips here and there
of what happened the nightbefore.
So, even keeping that liveaudience, which is what their
problem is right now, is is verydifficult because things have
(33:15):
changed so much when it comes tohow we consume uh what we get.
You know, at one time TV, that'sall we had.
We didn't have the internet, soit was a lot easier to make
people watch the entire twohours.
Nowadays, there's a lot ofcompetition out there, yeah.
Uh, we also have uh uh Scott uhthrow it so why manager managers
(33:36):
are not used anymore.
As a manager myself, I know theynever get involved in the
action, but the only mouthpiecenow is Paul Heyman.
Should they bring him back?
SPEAKER_00 (33:49):
No comment.
SPEAKER_03 (33:50):
I I think that we need to have more managers.
I I would love to see that.
Yeah, yeah, we need to.
SPEAKER_00 (33:57):
We need to, but then when they're when they're what
uh I'm gonna leave it alone.
SPEAKER_03 (34:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't want you to get introuble, brother.
Um, Mission Smith.
Uh let's say I seen your workrecalling the show in Michigan.
Teddy, you are the best.
SPEAKER_00 (34:12):
All right, no problem.
Thank you very much.
SPEAKER_03 (34:15):
And let's see, uh, we also got uh Jesse popping in
saying, Hey Jesse, it's good tosee you in here, my friend.
Wow, just put on a great cagematch with Miami Sweet Heat
versus Penelope Pink and HulkHolly Swag.
I'm sorry, bro.
I'm trying to read this quick.
What is this?
They blood really sold the heat.
Oh okay, they had a blood matchbetween the two, okay.
(34:37):
Uh between the two women, and wewill now have Miami Sweet Heat
at the next event in November.
Shameless plug.
That's all right, man.
Get your shows over.
Independence event.
Don't be afraid to do that.
You want to come here and putyour show over?
Feel free to do so.
Exactly.
Uh, also, uh, mission saying,favorite hardcore match that you
have ever seen, Teddy.
SPEAKER_00 (34:59):
Oh man, probably back in the day with ECW and
those were those were pretty,they were pretty rough, man.
With those, especially with uhthe Bob wire and all that stuff.
Man, they they they were prettyhardcore.
I think ECW was they they theydidn't get no no no no better
than that.
SPEAKER_03 (35:17):
No, now I've seen some of these death matches that
they have now, also that you canfind online.
Some of that stuff, I the lightcues and stuff.
Man, I don't understand that.
I know there is an audience forthat, but I it there's just so
much that can go wrong in amatch like that.
SPEAKER_00 (35:33):
It's very hard to why would you want to do that to
yourself anyway?
SPEAKER_03 (35:37):
I I really don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (35:39):
You're not mentally stable if you want to set
yourself on fire and uh uh uhwhat's this electric stuff they
put on your eye, all that stuffthat they're doing.
Jesus.
SPEAKER_03 (35:50):
Now I've been through a flaming table, but
there were a lot of precautionsfor that uh that I don't see
taking place anymore.
Uh, you know, I the guy I wasworking with was actually a
firefighter, uh, you know, justthe kind of uncover everything
else.
But yeah, we were completelysafe in that.
Uh, but nowadays, the thingsthey do, there is no safety
there.
You can't take a light tube andyou know and crack it over
(36:11):
somebody's head and not thinkthat that that you know the
glass is not going to cut themwide open, you know, especially
around the neck.
I think was it David Arquette?
I think he was involved in amatch a few years ago, and he he
was coming back, and somehow hestarted having just blood
gushing out of his neck and hehad to go to the hospital.
No, no, no, that's not that'sthat's not good for that.
Uh, Michael popping in saying uhhello and uh asking us how we're
(36:34):
doing.
Doing great, man.
I'm glad to see you in here.
And guys, I hate to cut usloose, but we're about uh 40
minutes into the show right now.
They're gonna cut us off if Idon't.
So we gotta get out of here.
Teddy, uh, anything uh if youcan remember anybody uh about
the questions that we hadtonight, anybody you want to
throw the shirt to?
SPEAKER_00 (36:51):
Uh let's send 40 ounce uh shirt, man.
40 ounce C dub.
All right, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (36:58):
I will see we'll send that nut something here.
He he's crazy as hell.
Hey guys, we appreciate this.
Uh, but you know, pretty soon uhthis is gonna be where you'll
find Teddy and I all the time.
Uh, because our show with SportsKeto uh is coming to an end.
They're closing that particularpart of the uh site down.
Uh so it will be coming to anend.
(37:19):
You'll find Teddy and I overhere with all of our special
stuff.
We'll probably have Bill Afterpop in once in a while because
uh No, we will not.
No, okay, no, we won't.
SPEAKER_00 (37:29):
I'm just kidding, man.
We'd love to have Bill.
SPEAKER_03 (37:32):
Yeah, man.
And we do this every Thursdaynights live, seven o'clock.
It unlike a lot of the othershows you go to where they ask
you for money to ask thequestions, we don't do that.
So just come and enjoy yourself,be a part of the program.
Uh, anything goes anytime whenwe're here.
Seven o'clock Thursday nights,it's road trip after hours.
I'm your host, Mack Davis, andthat, of course, is WWE Hall of
(37:54):
Famer Teddy Long.
Holoplayers.
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