May 29, 2025 • 37 mins
The wrestling business is built on loyalty – until it isn't. When news broke that John Laurinaitis had been removed from Janelle Grant's lawsuit and was now cooperating against WWE and Vince McMahon, wrestling legend Teddy Long didn't mince words, calling him a "coward" who turned on the man who made him somebody.
Drawing from his personal experiences with Laurinaitis, Teddy reveals how power was abused behind the scenes, stating bluntly, "I was there and I was one of the guys that he abused." This raw honesty sets the tone for a conversation that pulls back the curtain on wrestling's power dynamics when legal troubles arise.
The rumors of Vince McMahon potentially buying WWE back sparked lively speculation, with Teddy offering surprising insight: "If it was me, I wouldn't want WWE back. I would buy and get my own company with a new brand, new name and start fresh." Calling McMahon "a genius" who "doesn't go down without a fight," Teddy predicts we haven't seen the last of wrestling's most controversial figure.
We tackle the question many fans are asking: is there too much wrestling content today? With WWE, AEW, TNA, and ROH all competing for viewership, Teddy believes we've reached oversaturation. He ranks the current companies from best to worst, offering candid assessments that might surprise you. The conversation reveals concerns about whether there's enough elite talent to sustain quality programming across all these promotions.
Throughout this episode, Teddy shares unforgettable stories from his decades in the business, including a hilarious travel mishap with Jacqueline that led to relentless ribbing from JBL and Ron Simmons. His name association game provides genuine reactions to wrestling personalities from Big Boss Man to Jim Cornette, giving listeners authentic glimpses into wrestling's colorful backstage world.
Join us at River City Wrestling Con in St. Augustine, Florida on June 7-8, where Teddy will be doing a special Q&A panel with Mike Chioda. Get your tickets now and don't forget to subscribe for your chance to win exclusive Road Trip After Hours merchandise!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's do this.
Boomity, boom, boom, boom.
Hey, teddy, how you doing thisweek?
My friend, I don't want tostand by.
I heard you yelling something aminute ago but I said stand by,
(00:23):
I'm yelling, I don't want tostand by.
Hey, that's a good-lookingshirt.
You got on there, Teddy.
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I don't see you wearing one.
You know I almost did wear onetoday you almost did, you almost
did, I almost did.
That does not answer thequestion.
You still don't have one on.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Actually, I had a couple of them on this past week
.
My I've been.
Actually, I had a couple of themon this past week my wife asked
me if it's the only shirt I ownand I was like, why you say
that?
Well, I've seen two of thesecome to the car I mean to the
wash already this week.
So now she's probably pissedoff because I just made fun of
her, so I can't win tonight,teddy?
Hey, look, here there's that.
We got a lot to talk about.
First of all, thank you forbeing a part of the show.
(01:02):
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sure to pass it around.
Let everybody know that we arelive right now.
And to be a part of the show,all you got to do is leave a
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It's that easy.
You don't have to buy a supersticker, you don't have to do
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This is free.
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(01:25):
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So all you got to do is justleave your comments in the chat
and we'll fill up the screen.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And the other thing too we're the only people with a
podcast that give away freestuff.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, and giving you a chance to win a free T-shirt,
just like what Teddy's got onright there road trip after
hours, brand new design t-shirt.
Uh, and he will choose the bestquestion of the night and the
best question will get that freeroad trip after hours t-shirt,
teddy, let's.
Before we get there, let's talkabout something that's in the
news right now.
Uh, john laurinitis has beenremoved from janelle Grant's
(02:03):
lawsuit and is now going tocooperate in her case against
WWE and Vince McMahon.
Grant's legal team hasconfirmed that Laurinaitis will
cooperate and provide evidencein her case, where she alleges
years of sexual abuse andtrafficking, and after reading
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this today, I'm not reallysurprised this happened, are you
?
Not at all.
Does it sound like the JohnLaurinaitis?
You know Exactly?
Yeah, yeah, it's something youknow.
I don't know what the wholedeal is.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, here's the thing, what we just heard.
If all this is true, okay, hejust turned on the man that made
him somebody.
He wasn't nothing until he cameto work for Vince.
Vince put him in charge oftoleration, gave him a bunch of
power and stuff, and he abusedthat power because I was there
and I was one of the guys thathe abused.
So I'm not going to say toomuch about this because I don't
(03:02):
want to be getting involved, butI'm just telling what I'm
saying is the truth.
So that's why I say it.
So what I'm saying to you, ifyou don't care nothing about the
man that he worked for and madehim what he is today, then you
know damn well, he didn't carenothing about me.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know, when you get somebody like that, they're
taking a deal so they can getout of trouble.
That's exactly what.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Lauren, that's a coward, that's a.
That's what you call a coward.
If you was in, if you was inthere with the man, and if it's
true, you know what I mean Justtell the truth or whatever, and
be done with it.
That, by him copping out andStugent or whatever you want to
call it, that ain't going to.
You know what's that going todo?
Absolutely nothing for him.
He may get off, may get free,or may not get convicted or
(03:45):
something you know what I meanbut he's got to live with that
for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh yeah, and I mean you've got to think.
I'm not saying anybody's guiltyor innocent here, we don't know
, it hasn't been played out incourt yet but the characters in
this man, if you could write adrama or a crime you know, kind
of thing that you wouldn't gosee at a movie or see in a
documentary series.
Man, this is it right.
Here it's real life playing out.
(04:10):
That is absolutely incredible,especially when you get all the
different rumors that fly aroundabout what's taking place.
But at the end of the day itlooks like John Laurinaitis
tucked his tail between his legsand said what can I do to get
out of trouble?
And that's what he's doingright now.
So pretty classy lady.
Hey, mac and Teddy and Zachalso popping in here.
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Zach Minger, good to have youin here.
Nice T-shirt, teddy.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, thank you.
Thank you very much, Zach.
That's a good way to work ongetting you on Pretty classy
lady.
How do I get?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
the T-shirt.
I pretty classy lady.
How do I get the t-shirt?
I'm glad you're in here tonightbecause I could not find
information.
If you will just forward meyour information, I'll make sure
to get that out to you.
Uh, I did try that last week,though, after the show, and I
could not find what I waslooking for.
Oh you, I knew it was only you,only me, brother.
Let's see what else.
Uh, bruce bc couch.
Hey, teddy and mac, hope youguys had a great week, and we
(05:04):
did.
Thank you very much, yeah wedid, Thank you man, pretty
classy lady Also.
Laurinaitis has been full of itfor decades, and that's true.
I've heard stories long beforeI even talked to you, teddy
about John Laurinaitis, aboutthe kind of character he
actually was behind the scenes,but that's not unusual.
You find people like that allthe time in wrestling, don't you
(05:26):
?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, you do A lot of it, just hasn't been exposed
and brought out.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well, yeah, now it's in your face.
And sometimes they just don'tcare if it's out in your face
because they think they'll neverget in trouble Guess what.
By the way, vince McMahon, thisis some other news going around
, teddy.
There's rumors now.
Jonathan coachman has said thison a recent uh show.
As a matter of fact, I thinkI've got the actual quote.
Let me grab that for you realfast.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Why don't you have that stuff ready?
You know we're coming on theair and you know you're gonna
need it, so what are you lookingfor?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
okay, you, you read it.
Then here we go.
Jonathan coachman uh, from thebehind the Turnbuckle podcast,
jonathan Coachman was quoted assaying I've been quoted a lot
from this show the last weekeverywhere because I have
conversations, people trust me,people call me, I talk to them
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because I don't treat this likethe end-all, be-all and the one
thing that I've yet to be wrongabout anything.
I'm not sure.
Okay, I may have read it wrong,but and so now, all of a sudden
, I'm getting on all thesewebsites because I have educated
views and I also have peoplethat are tipping me off.
Now do I know a hundred percentthat he's going to buy w?
(06:41):
I know he wants to End, quote.
I just saw after reading hisresponse.
I just saw today where WWE hassaid well, we're not interested
in selling the Vince McMahon, soit doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
TKO said that, not WWE.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, yeah.
So does this surprise you,though?
Do you think there's apossibility he's interested in
buying WWE back?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well, I don't know that that's a.
You know that's a.
That's really one hard toanswer that man, I don't know.
I thought, you know, if it wasme, I wouldn't want WWE back.
I would buy and get my owncompany and maybe a new brand,
new name and start fresh,because Vince is a genius and he
can be some bad and toughcompetition for you, and so and
that's what I think he wantspeople to know that you know.
You know I'm not done.
(07:33):
I'm coming back, and you know,and I'm going to show you, you
know, that I am the king of thering.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, we have said since he had left WWE that Vince
is the kind of person Vince andall of his faults and all of
his good things that he has heis vindictive and he will go
after something he does not liketo lose, and it's something
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that is pride.
I think that's probably why hewas such a successful
businessman.
But seeing him just kind ofcreep away and never hear from
him again, I don't buy that.
I still think somewhere,somehow, he's going to be
involved in more entertainmenttype of wrestling programs or
something along those lines.
Eventually he's going to pop upand something's going to happen
(08:20):
.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, we'll just have to wait and see.
You know, like I said, vince isa genius and I don't see him
going down, you know, without afight, no Hornswoggle.
Oh Jesus, do we have to talkabout him?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Hornswoggle.
He recently spoke about gettinga WWE Legends deal.
He said, quote it makes me feellike I mattered in WWE with
this.
Now, it wasn't a get rid of me,release me, which is okay.
No one deserves a job.
That's my thing.
Whenever people get released,internet goes crazy about how
(08:57):
could they do this?
No one in any workforcedeserves a job.
You're lucky to have that,especially that kind of job.
He went on to say and now to beunder a legends deal.
It's incredible.
It's just like the coolestthing ever.
End quote your thoughts.
(09:21):
Are you not a hornswoggle fan?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
yeah, no, I'm a Hornswoggle fan.
I love Horny.
I just saw him.
Where was I?
Indianapolis, indiana at thatwrestling event right after
WrestleMania.
So I had a chance to see himthere, y'all, and Horny has his
own wrestling alliance there inWisconsin.
(09:44):
I believe where it is orsomething.
Yeah, I believe where it is.
Yeah, I went to work for him.
He has his own company thereHim and a couple other guys have
got their own deal.
But I did go up and go to workfor him, did one of his shows
there.
It's in Wisconsin.
God, the name of it is right onmy tongue.
I can't think of it.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But yeah, Horne has his own deal.
You need to reach out to him.
I'd like to have him on theshow.
I actually have always wantedto get in touch with him.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Okay, we had numbers on him, all those numbers would
change.
Ain't nobody's sucking up tohim?
I can get a million people comeon this show without him.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Oh man, sometimes even I'm not sure if we're if
we're shooting or if we're just.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
well, I'm just saying he changed all his numbers.
You know me and you were tryingto get in touch with him.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I did remember that, yes.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It wasn't right.
It was all that disconnect.
That wasn't wrong.
So you know what I'm saying.
We ain't going to suck up toyou.
You know we'll try to find you,but if we can't, then forget it
, we'll move on.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Got ghosted by Hornswoggle, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
All right, let's see.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Brandon Adkins?
Who was better, hornswoggle orLittle Doink the Clown?
Golly man Doink the Clown wasreally good.
That's a tough question there.
Both of them were good.
Hornswoggle was definitely goodat his job.
I mean, I did some stuff withhim in WWE and I had a great
time working with him.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You know, there are some stories too, with
Hornswoggle, I've heard, andit's one of the reasons I want
to get him on the show.
So if you're watchingHornswoggle, well, never mind, I
guess we don't want you becauseyou don't want us.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah right, Stop sucking up to him.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But there are stories about being ribbed, where he
got stuck under the ring with achicken.
Somebody threw a chicken underthere and he's scared to death
of him.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I don't know nothing about that.
All I know is one story abouthim.
He got so drunk, I thinkUndertaker had to put him on a
luggage cart and roll him up tohis room.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
He went out in the parking lot and left him to his
room.
Yeah, the parking lot and lefthim out there overnight.
Yeah, by the way, Teddy and Iwill be in Jacksonville, Florida
actually St Augustine, Floridaat world golf village for
Riverside wrestling con.
That's going to be a lot of fun, Teddy, I'm looking forward to
it.
And for those of you who wantto know more about the event and
everything else, go to uh God,that's horrible.
(12:11):
What is wrong with?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
you.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
River city wrestling, and then you got to know him
and talk to me about goingseeing Godfather.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Did he come visit you today, he?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
may have drove by Letters.
I love those letters.
Let's find out what you've gotto say.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh boy, Mailman Mail today.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And this is where you get to be a part of the show by
dropping your questions in here.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, go ahead, Teddy .
I want to say this before westart the question we're going
to be, like you told them, inSarasota for the big wrestlers
river city wrestling that willbe in the saint augustine and I
say that every time I know everytime.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
This is the only show those of you who are watching
wondering what we're laughingabout.
Teddy could never get the nameright, no matter how many times
he tried, and it got so funnythat at one point last year he
went by Godfather's table.
He visited for a minute.
He came back.
Not only could he not rememberwhere he was and what he was
doing, he looked in the oppositedirection of the camera.
So yeah, you've had a hard timewith that, but I have too.
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I stumble on it too sometimes.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, we listen to you right now since the show
started.
Look, yeah, we're listening toyou right now since the show
started.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Look, here I'm trying to help you a little bit.
I'm going to throw you underthe bus next time.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, that's all right, throw me under the bus
Anyhow, since we're not going toSarasota.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
we're going to St Augustine.
What did you want to say?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I wanted to say this.
I was going to ask you this Isthere any way that we'll come up
and subscribe to the Road TripAfter Hours and get a shirt?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
there.
If you want to buy a shitloadof t-shirts, yeah, but you can
get hundreds of people.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
We got t-shirts.
You don't know how many we need.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
You told somebody all you got to do is subscribe to
get a free t-shirt.
Do you know how many peoplewould be at our table just
signing up just to get a freet-shirt?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
well long as they subscribe.
If we run out of shirts, we runout of shirts we'll let you
know more about that.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I'm sure we'll have something we can do while we're
there, that's for sure.
But yeah, we are a little bitlimited in our t-shirts this
year too, teddy.
Uh, that's one thing I noticed.
I gotta uh talk to our t-shirtguy and see if he can pump some
more out to us.
Uh, because we need especiallythe design you're wearing right
there.
All right, if you want to be apart of the show, leave a
comment here.
We'll get to them and throwthem up on the screen and, uh,
(15:36):
teddy, at the end of this we'llbe going to, uh, actually, uh,
choose somebody to be our winnerfor tonight.
And I, my mouse has all of asudden just died here, so let me
use it just manually here.
Go to the chat.
You have that cheap equipment,do you like Bill Hefner?
No, I don't know what happenedactually.
Yeah, I'm sure you don't, whatthe hell you there?
(16:02):
Yeah, wow, everything changed.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
okay, let's it's bad weather out here, man, so that
could be the problem too.
It's been tornadoes andeverything right here by me.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Oh really yeah we've had bad weather here, but uh, I
don't know what's happened.
All of a sudden, this entirescreen just froze up on me.
Um, that's not good, because Ican't control a lot of things.
Um, I'm gonna try to get down.
I gotta know I got one downhere and it will not pop up on
(16:37):
the screen, guys, uh river citywrestling con.
Yeah, uh this is ahead.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Is it john adams or josh john adams?
John adams, okay um, let's see.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Let me ask you.
Uh, one of our first questionswe get tonight is from tabitha
on x, who wants to know we allknow your work in front of the
camera, but did you ever haveany backstage duties as well?
That's a good question forpeople who don't know how it
works.
Well, no, did you ever have anybackstage duties as well?
That's a good question forpeople who don't know how it
works.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Well, no, I never did have any backstage duties with
the WWE.
I did a lot when I was in Texaswhen I was running SWE.
I was in charge of creative andeverything and we really turned
that operation around.
I went in there, they weredrawing 50 people, I think.
I was there about three monthsand we went up to a thousand and
then we just kept growing, youknow, and then all of a sudden
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we was in Canton, texas, onenight and we didn't even have
enough seats.
They had to go out and buychairs so they could have for
the people to sit down.
So I'm very creative and a lotof people don't know this, but I
learned a lot.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I just kept everything to myself, but now I
can, you know, expand and letpeople know what I really know.
Guys, I want to tell youstraight out I'm sorry I can't
get to any more of yourquestions because my screen is
completely locked up, but I gotenough questions to get us
through to a seven 30.
I apologize.
If that clears up, we'll answerthe questions as well, but for
whatever reason, uh, thescreen's just frozen.
I can't move any of yourquestions.
Let me ask you.
Here's another question.
When it comes to Vic in thesticks from Facebook, any
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memories of Heavy Metal?
Van Hammer?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Only thing I remember with him is I worked with him a
little bit in WCW and that'sabout it.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I don't know much about him.
Yeah, he was somebody Iremember seeing, only in WCW Did
he ever go to.
Wwe that you know of, or did hedisappear after WCW?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
No, he was in WCW.
That's the only place I knewhim from.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Let's see Dave from YouTube.
I like this question here.
During the white boy challenge,was there ever anyone who
didn't want to be the white boy?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
sure there were some, but you know I want to do this
too.
While we're speaking about that, and since that question was
asked, a lot of people didn'twant to get involved in certain
things.
You know what I mean, becausethey didn't want it to look like
, you know, like it reallysupposed to look.
But there was one guy that wasvery cooperative and me and him
were good friends and that wasbob holly.
And I never forget, I was doingthe white boy challenge and was
working with bob holly rodneywas, and so Bob Holly was on the
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outside and he was laying overby the, by the announce table,
and he calls me and he saysTeddy, teddy, slap the shit out
of me, slap the shit out of me.
And I look at him, he says comeon, come on, you know so.
Then I slapped him and then mycue was then I run right to the
announcer's microphone.
I said I just slapped a cracker, tell him, tell him I just
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slapped the cracker, okay, butsee, but bob holly would, was a
guy that let me, would, let medo that.
And there were a lot of whiteguys.
You know they want no black guyslapping them on tv.
No, but bob holly was verycooperative and I never will
forget that.
But he helped that story let'ssee.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
That's a good question, by the way, and I
thought I had the uh, thequestions coming through.
Now, guys, I, okay, I, I giveup.
That's the second time aroundnow that it's still doing it all
right, um, frank the tank uhwants to know do you think there
comes a point where there istoo much wrestling?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
well, I think we're at the point now I think there's
too much now.
Every time you look, you knowthere's wrestling.
You got uh any any aew withthree or four shows or two at
least I think I've seen dynamiteor something else they got, but
anyway there's shows there.
You still got tna, which arecoming around, coming up strong,
uh, and then you've got wwe.
I think the only thing that'sreally going to help the other
(20:42):
guys is by WWE being on Netflix.
It gives these other guys achance to come on regular TV
where people can really see them, because everybody don't have
Netflix.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
No, not everybody's got Netflix.
But the other problem too to meand I agree with the premise of
the question is that is theretoo much wrestling?
I think if there's anoversaturation of it, people
will get tired of it.
Uh, I mean and, and and.
Also, at the same time, I'mglad there's enough wrestling on
TV, because at one time therewas only WWE that you saw on TV.
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Now, because of the way weconsume our TV or our streaming,
uh, you know now that thingshave changed so much.
There are a lot more players inthe wrestling world than we've
ever had in the past.
But there comes a point whereit's all one of the same and
becomes mush, and that can hurteven the big companies, because
if people get tired of seeing somuch, they're going to get
(21:35):
tired of even the big companies,because it's just everywhere.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Well then the other thing too I don't think they got
enough talent to go around.
You know, to make the, you knowto make good tv shows.
You know it's gonna take a lotof a lot of guys, man, but all
this wrestling, but, like I said, that's, you know they'll,
these guys will figure it out.
You know, either they'll makeit work or it won't work uh, I
do see some of these.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I can read these out to you.
I would say pretty classy lady.
She did say teddy's just tryingto give back to the community.
Mac, she's laughing, she'stalking about the T-shirts, john
Adams.
Yeah thank you.
John Adams says you guys beendrinking before the show.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
We always drink before the show.
How do you think we do this?
I got to put up with him.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
But see what wrestler this is John Adams as well.
What wrestler would you haveliked?
Would have liked to have gottento the ring with that you may
not have worked with.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Wow, Golly man?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, I imagine there's a bunch of them.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I'd like to work with .
I'd like to work with.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I'd like to work with sammy zane sammy for me, and I
think it's time that sammy getssomething different.
Like that, sammy has been sammyand sammy is very good with
emotions and portraying those ontv, but he's been doing that
same thing for a long time and Ido think there is a point now
(23:03):
where it would be nice to seehim with a manager and maybe be
packaged a little bit different,because I don't think his time
in WWE is near an end.
I still think he's got a lotleft in him because, he's able
to act and portray these storiesin such a way that makes them
interesting and valuable, andhe's such a nice guy makes them
interesting and that makes youvaluable.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
And he's such a nice guy, what a great attitude and
everything.
I mean such a nice guy.
Yeah, the purpose of themanager is to restart his career
.
You know, the manager comes inand convinces him no, you're not
done.
They may think you're done, buthere's what I'm going to do for
you.
We're going to start all overand I'll tell you what.
Sammy, you're going to be awinner.
I'll make sure of that.
And then they start doing theright thing.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Herb Simmons asking what does Teddy like to do in
his downtime?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, herb, I don't do a whole lot.
I'm a gym guy, a gym rat, so Ido the gym like three days out
of the week and then I take oneday off, then I'm back in there
and that's about it for me.
And I come home with my dog,rufus, and me and him just enjoy
the rest of the day.
So I don't do a whole lot, man,I just like working out, trying
to stay in shape and stay aliveand just keep on moving.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
And Billy Slick, stopping by saying Teddy Long,
you are an absolute legend andpretty classy lady, by the way.
To get something out to me, ifyou will reach out to me through
I'm not sure how you'rewatching If you're on Facebook
send me a message throughFacebook, but you're coming
through YouTube, so I'll tellyou what.
(24:31):
Send it to Mac S-M-A-C Davismail M-A-I-L at gmailcom.
That's MacDavisMail at gmailcom.
I mac davis mail at gmailcom.
I promise that will get out toyou this week.
You get that to me and I'll getthe shirt to you.
All right, let's see uh alan onx list.
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The following from best toworst okay, actually it looks
kind of easy to me.
Wwe, aew, tna ROH.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Top company would be.
The top company would be WWE.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Behind that?
Who would you put, Probably?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
TNA.
We're looking at a little bitof what they're doing.
Things are looking real goodfor them.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
TNA is one of those quiet companies that's always
been kind of a little bit in thebackground for years now, and
they're just waiting for thatright opportunity to make
something really happen.
And it's going to take theright storyline, first of all, I
think, to grab people'sattention, attention to bring
them over there, because theproduct is really good.
And when you compare it to thatof WWE and AEW, I agree Between
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AEW and TNA.
I tend to go with TNA more thanI do AEW.
Is that who you would put in atthird?
Would you put AEW in thirdplace then, or would you put ROH
in third place?
I'd put ROH in third place, soyou'd put AEW at the bottom of
the list right now as far as thecompanies go from best to worst
.
Yeah, all right, how much timedo we have here?
(26:09):
We still got a few more minuteshere.
Let's see Question six Samanthaname association.
Okay, yeah, this is one.
Actually, I mentioned one ofthese names earlier today.
But first of all, give me yourthoughts, any memories or
anything.
And the first name is Big Bossman.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Oh God, what a great guy man.
When I first broke inrefereeing and stuff, that's
when I was working with Ray RayTrella that was his name and,
golly man, he was anothersweetheart of a guy, great
attitude and everything, and Ihad a chance to ride with him
for a little while too.
So we worked together.
Yeah, boss, man was a great guy.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
He looked like he was not not just a fun guy to be
around, but he looked like hecould be hilarious at times.
Was he could he prank prettygood?
Or was he good at jokes, causehe came across like he could be?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
He mostly pranked himself.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
All right, here's the next name on the list Eugene
Nick Densmore.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, nick Densmore, yeah, he was another great guy.
Great attitude.
I worked with him a little bit.
Yeah, I enjoyed him.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You know he was one of those characters too.
I know he wasn't going to be along-term character.
He's kind of like theHornswoggles and other people.
There's a character there for ashort period of time where it
works and then eventually itfades away.
Eugene was one of thosecharacters, but I thought he
portrayed that character so well.
I thought he was perfect withit.
It made you care for him, youfelt sympathy for him, and a lot
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of people can't do that.
It's very hard to make peoplefeel sympathetic for you, you
know, and genuine sympathythat's when you know how to sell
.
Yes, absolutely, let's see DaveCrone.
Teddy, I wish you could putthis on the screen.
Guys, Teddy, any funny weedstories?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
weed stories.
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I don't know man, there's a lot of funny weed
stories.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I just don't remember none of them.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
How can you remember?
Hey, let me ask you this what'syour go-to snack Munchie?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I don't really add in much as a lot.
I kind of control my appetite alittle bit and watch what I eat
so I don't get the munchies nomore.
I'm disciplined man.
I watch what I put in my body.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well, you got to be nowadays, and that includes
everything, includingprescriptions.
Oh, god, we were talking aboutthis the other day Was it
yesterday or today?
We were talking about it.
We were talking about it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
They gave me something called Gabitin Gabitin
or something, yeah, so I wentto take one.
Well, I always read everything.
So I went to take one of themand I read about it and they
said this here will cause you tocommit suicide, you'll want to
kill yourself.
So why will you sell mesomething that I'm going to take
and make me want to kill myself?
So I only took that one.
(29:04):
I ain't taking no more of them.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I watch these commercials for pharmaceuticals
all the time and it's like mostof the time I don't even know
what the drug is for thatthey're talking about, but for
about a minute they tell you allthe complications by taking the
medicine.
Death is usually one of thosethey mentioned.
Why would I want to takesomething that may kill me in my
(29:26):
sleep?
I think I told you they triedto get me on a medication before
COVID came out and it wouldlower your immune system.
Had I had done that and been onthat program and COVID came
through, brother, I would havebeen in trouble.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I would have had no protection.
You don't lower your immunesystem.
You keep your immune.
I take something for that everyday.
For my immune system.
I take it every day.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, look, I'll be straight up honest.
When we go to these shows, Ihave a little packet of this
stuff that's supposed to kind ofprotect you a little bit more
when you're in crowded areaslike airports and things like
that.
Only because you got to besmart, I mean, you know you take
care of your body, you takecare of what you do.
Everything else should fall inplace.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You take care of your body, your body will take care
of you.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Absolutely, dave Krohn.
We love you guys in St Louis.
Hey, we appreciate that verymuch.
St Louis is one of our favoriteplaces every year and we say
that because it's true.
Okay, let's get back to some ofthe names here.
We're actually a little bitover, but let's go through them
anyhow.
The next name is one that I didmention to you earlier today,
and that was Miss JackieJacqueline.
Any memories with Jacqueline.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Oh yeah, I had a great story with her One night,
me and her.
All of a sudden I ended upriding.
Well, she needed a ride, so sherode with me.
So anyway, to make a long storyshort, I think we drove from
Greensboro.
We was going to Richmond,virginia.
Well, why did I do this?
I'm really tired.
So I let Jackie drive, okay.
So the best thing about drivingnext thing I know I doze off to
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sleep.
So when I wake up, finally wakeup, I look up, we're still
riding.
Now it was only 100 miles, youknow what I mean.
We're not that far, we're stillriding.
So I look over at her and I'mlike what are you doing?
So if I find out she hasalready went 200 miles out of
the way, oh no, so now I get the.
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I'm really pissed now.
So I get Jackie, please get out.
So I get.
So I put in the passenger seat,I took over.
So now I'm really pumping itnow because we got to get, to
get to bed.
Yeah, when we look up and wepull up in the marriott in
richmond, virginia, we finallyget there, but we pull up in the
marriott at eight o'clock inthe morning.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Oh lord, guess who's?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
standing there and seen us who jbl and ron simmons?
Oh shit, did they rip me allday long about that?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Oh God.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
They gave me no rest and they told everybody that we
left Greensboro at 7 o'clockthat night and we ended up in
Richmond at 8 o'clock in themorning.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Well, I mean, you know, you got caught, you got
caught.
Hey look, we saw Jackie in StLouis.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
She's going to be with us at the River City
Wrestling Cards.
She's going to be there.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Where is that?
What town is that in?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That's in Sarasota.
No, it's in St Augustine.
I'm getting messing with you.
No, you're not St Augustine,I'm getting messing with you.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Okay, we've got a couple more names, a couple more
names on this list, and thereare a couple of good ones too.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
First of all, kevin nash oh, great guy, uh, me and
him talk on occasion.
You know what I mean?
Kevin is a kind of a cool guy,you don't?
You know, he's kind of alaid-back quiet.
Yeah, he's kind of laid back.
So every time I see him, wealways speak and hold a
conversation a little bit, andthat's it, yep all right, here's
the last name on the list and Ithink we're out of time.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
We see pretty classy lady is saying did you ever work
with Channel 17 Wrestling?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, that was the old TBS.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yep, yep, all right, here we go.
Last name on the nameassociation list is Jim Cornette
.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Oh God love Jim Cornette.
And the reason why?
Because Jim Cornette, jimCornette.
And the reason why is becauseJim Cornette is real.
He'll tell you just like it isand he ain't going to lie to you
.
And what he says out of hismouth is the total truth.
And he don't care what he saysabout some people because he
knows he's telling the truth onthem.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
So I love Jim Cornette.
Yeah, people ask me all thetime because I do another show
for Sportskeeda with Vince Russoand I get asked all the time
how do you work with Vince Russo?
And I understand why peoplefeel that way, because everybody
feels different.
But, like Jim Cornette, if youlisten to what they say, when
(33:39):
they're talking about critiquingthe show and how it could be
better, more times than not,they're right.
And this will kill all three ofthem because they all, I don't
think, care for one another.
But jim cornett, vince russoand eric bischoff they get all
this heat.
They're hated so much.
But again, when you listen towhat they say, more times than
(33:59):
not they're absolutely.
That's why they hate them.
Yeah, and I don't hate any ofthese guys.
I know each one of these guysand, to be honest with you, they
all ask me the same thing howdo you work with this person?
I base people on how I workwith them and that's it, you
know their history with somebodyelse.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
When I learned this, Roy, when I was in the wrestling
field, you learn one thing youcan work with a guy, but that
don't mean you have to havedinner with him.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
No, and that's the case anywhere.
Honestly, guys, I work with alot of guys in WCW WWE.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I work with a lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I wouldn't go out with them.
Let's see, we do have DaveCrone popping in with one more
question and we'll take this onein before we close out.
Was Vince really perverted,like they are saying he was, or
a scumbag, or was he cool?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Vince was a cool guy.
I don't know what they'resaying.
I don't know anything about thecase.
The only thing I know is what Iread, so you can't believe
everything you read.
But Vince was a cool guy.
That's my opinion.
Okay, he got on me one time andthat's all he needed to get on
me one time, and he never got onme again because I didn't put
myself in that position no more.
(35:10):
And the night he was getting onme I stopped him and I told him
.
I said, sir, I want you to knowone thing.
I was out there playing.
I said that will never happenagain.
And he looks back at me and hesays, yeah, you're better than
that, and he straightened me outright then.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I didn't mess nothing else up All right, Teddy,
you've got to pick a message ora question for tonight for the
free t-shirt.
Who are you going to picktonight?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I'll maybe pick the guy that whoever we just
finished talking about wanted toknow about Vince.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, because he also had the one about the funny
weed stories too.
So a couple of really goodquestions.
So I agree with that.
Dave.
You're on Facebook, so shoot mea message there with your
information and I will get thatT-shirt out with pretty classy
ladies.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
And I want you guys to wear these shirts and put
them on social media so peoplecan see where you got them from,
and they may want to say, well,how can I get mine?
Then you can tell them.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, in fact, when we were in St Louis, we had a
couple of people wearing one ofour first design T-shirts that
we had a few years ago and theyshowed up in that and we had
pictures made with them and it'salways cool to see that,
especially when they take thetime to wear that, for us to see
it as well.
We appreciate that very much.
Again, we will be in StAugustine, florida, for River
(36:28):
City Wrestling Con.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
That is June 7th and 8th,saturday and Sunday.
Teddy and I will be there forboth days and Teddy, I believe I
saw today I just reposted that,I believe on Facebook as well
that I'll be hosting a Q&A withyou and Mike Chioda.
Yes, that's going to be a lotof fun.
(36:49):
I look forward to that becausehe's been on the show before.
He's like Teddy, they don'thold back, they're just going to
tell you what they think,chioda is going to tell you the
truth.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
He's been there a long time and he knows.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yes, all right, teddy , we're out of here.
I'll see you again next week.
We will be here.
It'll be on Thursday.
You'll see us on Thursday justbefore we leave, and then you
will also see us popping in andout over the weekend while we
are in St Augustine, so you canbe a part of it as well, but be
there in person.
We'd rather have you there inperson.
All right, teddy, we're out of.
Let's do this.
Boomity, boom, boom, boom.
Hey, teddy, how you doing thisweek?
My friend, I don't want tostand by.
I heard you yelling something aminute ago but I said stand by,
(00:23):
I'm yelling, I don't want tostand by.
Hey, that's a good-lookingshirt.
You got on there, Teddy.
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I don't see you wearing one.
You know I almost did wear onetoday you almost did, you almost
did, I almost did.
That does not answer thequestion.
You still don't have one on.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Actually, I had a couple of them on this past week
.
My I've been.
Actually, I had a couple of themon this past week my wife asked
me if it's the only shirt I ownand I was like, why you say
that?
Well, I've seen two of thesecome to the car I mean to the
wash already this week.
So now she's probably pissedoff because I just made fun of
her, so I can't win tonight,teddy?
Hey, look, here there's that.
We got a lot to talk about.
First of all, thank you forbeing a part of the show.
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If you're're with us right now,if you'll do us a favor, make
sure to pass it around.
Let everybody know that we arelive right now.
And to be a part of the show,all you got to do is leave a
comment.
It's that easy.
You don't have to buy a supersticker, you don't have to do
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This is free.
You show to be fan accessible,and that means not having to pay
(01:25):
money and everything else, butjust be a part of the program.
So all you got to do is justleave your comments in the chat
and we'll fill up the screen.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And the other thing too we're the only people with a
podcast that give away freestuff.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, and giving you a chance to win a free T-shirt,
just like what Teddy's got onright there road trip after
hours, brand new design t-shirt.
Uh, and he will choose the bestquestion of the night and the
best question will get that freeroad trip after hours t-shirt,
teddy, let's.
Before we get there, let's talkabout something that's in the
news right now.
Uh, john laurinitis has beenremoved from janelle Grant's
(02:03):
lawsuit and is now going tocooperate in her case against
WWE and Vince McMahon.
Grant's legal team hasconfirmed that Laurinaitis will
cooperate and provide evidencein her case, where she alleges
years of sexual abuse andtrafficking, and after reading
(02:26):
this today, I'm not reallysurprised this happened, are you
?
Not at all.
Does it sound like the JohnLaurinaitis?
You know Exactly?
Yeah, yeah, it's something youknow.
I don't know what the wholedeal is.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, here's the thing, what we just heard.
If all this is true, okay, hejust turned on the man that made
him somebody.
He wasn't nothing until he cameto work for Vince.
Vince put him in charge oftoleration, gave him a bunch of
power and stuff, and he abusedthat power because I was there
and I was one of the guys thathe abused.
So I'm not going to say toomuch about this because I don't
(03:02):
want to be getting involved, butI'm just telling what I'm
saying is the truth.
So that's why I say it.
So what I'm saying to you, ifyou don't care nothing about the
man that he worked for and madehim what he is today, then you
know damn well, he didn't carenothing about me.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know, when you get somebody like that, they're
taking a deal so they can getout of trouble.
That's exactly what.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Lauren, that's a coward, that's a.
That's what you call a coward.
If you was in, if you was inthere with the man, and if it's
true, you know what I mean Justtell the truth or whatever, and
be done with it.
That, by him copping out andStugent or whatever you want to
call it, that ain't going to.
You know what's that going todo?
Absolutely nothing for him.
He may get off, may get free,or may not get convicted or
(03:45):
something you know what I meanbut he's got to live with that
for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh yeah, and I mean you've got to think.
I'm not saying anybody's guiltyor innocent here, we don't know
, it hasn't been played out incourt yet but the characters in
this man, if you could write adrama or a crime you know, kind
of thing that you wouldn't gosee at a movie or see in a
documentary series.
Man, this is it right.
Here it's real life playing out.
(04:10):
That is absolutely incredible,especially when you get all the
different rumors that fly aroundabout what's taking place.
But at the end of the day itlooks like John Laurinaitis
tucked his tail between his legsand said what can I do to get
out of trouble?
And that's what he's doingright now.
So pretty classy lady.
Hey, mac and Teddy and Zachalso popping in here.
(04:32):
Zach Minger, good to have youin here.
Nice T-shirt, teddy.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, thank you.
Thank you very much, Zach.
That's a good way to work ongetting you on Pretty classy
lady.
How do I get?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
the T-shirt.
I pretty classy lady.
How do I get the t-shirt?
I'm glad you're in here tonightbecause I could not find
information.
If you will just forward meyour information, I'll make sure
to get that out to you.
Uh, I did try that last week,though, after the show, and I
could not find what I waslooking for.
Oh you, I knew it was only you,only me, brother.
Let's see what else.
Uh, bruce bc couch.
Hey, teddy and mac, hope youguys had a great week, and we
(05:04):
did.
Thank you very much, yeah wedid, Thank you man, pretty
classy lady Also.
Laurinaitis has been full of itfor decades, and that's true.
I've heard stories long beforeI even talked to you, teddy
about John Laurinaitis, aboutthe kind of character he
actually was behind the scenes,but that's not unusual.
You find people like that allthe time in wrestling, don't you
(05:26):
?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, you do A lot of it, just hasn't been exposed
and brought out.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well, yeah, now it's in your face.
And sometimes they just don'tcare if it's out in your face
because they think they'll neverget in trouble Guess what.
By the way, vince McMahon, thisis some other news going around
, teddy.
There's rumors now.
Jonathan coachman has said thison a recent uh show.
As a matter of fact, I thinkI've got the actual quote.
Let me grab that for you realfast.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Why don't you have that stuff ready?
You know we're coming on theair and you know you're gonna
need it, so what are you lookingfor?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
okay, you, you read it.
Then here we go.
Jonathan coachman uh, from thebehind the Turnbuckle podcast,
jonathan Coachman was quoted assaying I've been quoted a lot
from this show the last weekeverywhere because I have
conversations, people trust me,people call me, I talk to them
(06:18):
because I don't treat this likethe end-all, be-all and the one
thing that I've yet to be wrongabout anything.
I'm not sure.
Okay, I may have read it wrong,but and so now, all of a sudden
, I'm getting on all thesewebsites because I have educated
views and I also have peoplethat are tipping me off.
Now do I know a hundred percentthat he's going to buy w?
(06:41):
I know he wants to End, quote.
I just saw after reading hisresponse.
I just saw today where WWE hassaid well, we're not interested
in selling the Vince McMahon, soit doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
TKO said that, not WWE.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, yeah.
So does this surprise you,though?
Do you think there's apossibility he's interested in
buying WWE back?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well, I don't know that that's a.
You know that's a.
That's really one hard toanswer that man, I don't know.
I thought, you know, if it wasme, I wouldn't want WWE back.
I would buy and get my owncompany and maybe a new brand,
new name and start fresh,because Vince is a genius and he
can be some bad and toughcompetition for you, and so and
that's what I think he wantspeople to know that you know.
You know I'm not done.
(07:33):
I'm coming back, and you know,and I'm going to show you, you
know, that I am the king of thering.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, we have said since he had left WWE that Vince
is the kind of person Vince andall of his faults and all of
his good things that he has heis vindictive and he will go
after something he does not liketo lose, and it's something
(07:58):
that is pride.
I think that's probably why hewas such a successful
businessman.
But seeing him just kind ofcreep away and never hear from
him again, I don't buy that.
I still think somewhere,somehow, he's going to be
involved in more entertainmenttype of wrestling programs or
something along those lines.
Eventually he's going to pop upand something's going to happen
(08:20):
.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, we'll just have to wait and see.
You know, like I said, vince isa genius and I don't see him
going down, you know, without afight, no Hornswoggle.
Oh Jesus, do we have to talkabout him?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Hornswoggle.
He recently spoke about gettinga WWE Legends deal.
He said, quote it makes me feellike I mattered in WWE with
this.
Now, it wasn't a get rid of me,release me, which is okay.
No one deserves a job.
That's my thing.
Whenever people get released,internet goes crazy about how
(08:57):
could they do this?
No one in any workforcedeserves a job.
You're lucky to have that,especially that kind of job.
He went on to say and now to beunder a legends deal.
It's incredible.
It's just like the coolestthing ever.
End quote your thoughts.
(09:21):
Are you not a hornswoggle fan?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
yeah, no, I'm a Hornswoggle fan.
I love Horny.
I just saw him.
Where was I?
Indianapolis, indiana at thatwrestling event right after
WrestleMania.
So I had a chance to see himthere, y'all, and Horny has his
own wrestling alliance there inWisconsin.
(09:44):
I believe where it is orsomething.
Yeah, I believe where it is.
Yeah, I went to work for him.
He has his own company thereHim and a couple other guys have
got their own deal.
But I did go up and go to workfor him, did one of his shows
there.
It's in Wisconsin.
God, the name of it is right onmy tongue.
I can't think of it.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But yeah, Horne has his own deal.
You need to reach out to him.
I'd like to have him on theshow.
I actually have always wantedto get in touch with him.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Okay, we had numbers on him, all those numbers would
change.
Ain't nobody's sucking up tohim?
I can get a million people comeon this show without him.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Oh man, sometimes even I'm not sure if we're if
we're shooting or if we're just.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
well, I'm just saying he changed all his numbers.
You know me and you were tryingto get in touch with him.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I did remember that, yes.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It wasn't right.
It was all that disconnect.
That wasn't wrong.
So you know what I'm saying.
We ain't going to suck up toyou.
You know we'll try to find you,but if we can't, then forget it
, we'll move on.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Got ghosted by Hornswoggle, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
All right, let's see.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Brandon Adkins?
Who was better, hornswoggle orLittle Doink the Clown?
Golly man Doink the Clown wasreally good.
That's a tough question there.
Both of them were good.
Hornswoggle was definitely goodat his job.
I mean, I did some stuff withhim in WWE and I had a great
time working with him.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You know, there are some stories too, with
Hornswoggle, I've heard, andit's one of the reasons I want
to get him on the show.
So if you're watchingHornswoggle, well, never mind, I
guess we don't want you becauseyou don't want us.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah right, Stop sucking up to him.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But there are stories about being ribbed, where he
got stuck under the ring with achicken.
Somebody threw a chicken underthere and he's scared to death
of him.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I don't know nothing about that.
All I know is one story abouthim.
He got so drunk, I thinkUndertaker had to put him on a
luggage cart and roll him up tohis room.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
He went out in the parking lot and left him to his
room.
Yeah, the parking lot and lefthim out there overnight.
Yeah, by the way, Teddy and Iwill be in Jacksonville, Florida
actually St Augustine, Floridaat world golf village for
Riverside wrestling con.
That's going to be a lot of fun, Teddy, I'm looking forward to
it.
And for those of you who wantto know more about the event and
everything else, go to uh God,that's horrible.
(12:11):
What is wrong with?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
you.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
River city wrestling, and then you got to know him
and talk to me about goingseeing Godfather.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Did he come visit you today, he?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
may have drove by Letters.
I love those letters.
Let's find out what you've gotto say.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh boy, Mailman Mail today.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And this is where you get to be a part of the show by
dropping your questions in here.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, go ahead, Teddy .
I want to say this before westart the question we're going
to be, like you told them, inSarasota for the big wrestlers
river city wrestling that willbe in the saint augustine and I
say that every time I know everytime.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
This is the only show those of you who are watching
wondering what we're laughingabout.
Teddy could never get the nameright, no matter how many times
he tried, and it got so funnythat at one point last year he
went by Godfather's table.
He visited for a minute.
He came back.
Not only could he not rememberwhere he was and what he was
doing, he looked in the oppositedirection of the camera.
So yeah, you've had a hard timewith that, but I have too.
(14:18):
I stumble on it too sometimes.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, we listen to you right now since the show
started.
Look, yeah, we're listening toyou right now since the show
started.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Look, here I'm trying to help you a little bit.
I'm going to throw you underthe bus next time.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, that's all right, throw me under the bus
Anyhow, since we're not going toSarasota.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
we're going to St Augustine.
What did you want to say?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I wanted to say this.
I was going to ask you this Isthere any way that we'll come up
and subscribe to the Road TripAfter Hours and get a shirt?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
there.
If you want to buy a shitloadof t-shirts, yeah, but you can
get hundreds of people.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
We got t-shirts.
You don't know how many we need.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
You told somebody all you got to do is subscribe to
get a free t-shirt.
Do you know how many peoplewould be at our table just
signing up just to get a freet-shirt?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
well long as they subscribe.
If we run out of shirts, we runout of shirts we'll let you
know more about that.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I'm sure we'll have something we can do while we're
there, that's for sure.
But yeah, we are a little bitlimited in our t-shirts this
year too, teddy.
Uh, that's one thing I noticed.
I gotta uh talk to our t-shirtguy and see if he can pump some
more out to us.
Uh, because we need especiallythe design you're wearing right
there.
All right, if you want to be apart of the show, leave a
comment here.
We'll get to them and throwthem up on the screen and, uh,
(15:36):
teddy, at the end of this we'llbe going to, uh, actually, uh,
choose somebody to be our winnerfor tonight.
And I, my mouse has all of asudden just died here, so let me
use it just manually here.
Go to the chat.
You have that cheap equipment,do you like Bill Hefner?
No, I don't know what happenedactually.
Yeah, I'm sure you don't, whatthe hell you there?
(16:02):
Yeah, wow, everything changed.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
okay, let's it's bad weather out here, man, so that
could be the problem too.
It's been tornadoes andeverything right here by me.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Oh really yeah we've had bad weather here, but uh, I
don't know what's happened.
All of a sudden, this entirescreen just froze up on me.
Um, that's not good, because Ican't control a lot of things.
Um, I'm gonna try to get down.
I gotta know I got one downhere and it will not pop up on
(16:37):
the screen, guys, uh river citywrestling con.
Yeah, uh this is ahead.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Is it john adams or josh john adams?
John adams, okay um, let's see.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Let me ask you.
Uh, one of our first questionswe get tonight is from tabitha
on x, who wants to know we allknow your work in front of the
camera, but did you ever haveany backstage duties as well?
That's a good question forpeople who don't know how it
works.
Well, no, did you ever have anybackstage duties as well?
That's a good question forpeople who don't know how it
works.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Well, no, I never did have any backstage duties with
the WWE.
I did a lot when I was in Texaswhen I was running SWE.
I was in charge of creative andeverything and we really turned
that operation around.
I went in there, they weredrawing 50 people, I think.
I was there about three monthsand we went up to a thousand and
then we just kept growing, youknow, and then all of a sudden
(17:27):
we was in Canton, texas, onenight and we didn't even have
enough seats.
They had to go out and buychairs so they could have for
the people to sit down.
So I'm very creative and a lotof people don't know this, but I
learned a lot.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I just kept everything to myself, but now I
can, you know, expand and letpeople know what I really know.
Guys, I want to tell youstraight out I'm sorry I can't
get to any more of yourquestions because my screen is
completely locked up, but I gotenough questions to get us
through to a seven 30.
I apologize.
If that clears up, we'll answerthe questions as well, but for
whatever reason, uh, thescreen's just frozen.
I can't move any of yourquestions.
Let me ask you.
Here's another question.
When it comes to Vic in thesticks from Facebook, any
(18:10):
memories of Heavy Metal?
Van Hammer?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Only thing I remember with him is I worked with him a
little bit in WCW and that'sabout it.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I don't know much about him.
Yeah, he was somebody Iremember seeing, only in WCW Did
he ever go to.
Wwe that you know of, or did hedisappear after WCW?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
No, he was in WCW.
That's the only place I knewhim from.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Let's see Dave from YouTube.
I like this question here.
During the white boy challenge,was there ever anyone who
didn't want to be the white boy?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
sure there were some, but you know I want to do this
too.
While we're speaking about that, and since that question was
asked, a lot of people didn'twant to get involved in certain
things.
You know what I mean, becausethey didn't want it to look like
, you know, like it reallysupposed to look.
But there was one guy that wasvery cooperative and me and him
were good friends and that wasbob holly.
And I never forget, I was doingthe white boy challenge and was
working with bob holly rodneywas, and so Bob Holly was on the
(19:23):
outside and he was laying overby the, by the announce table,
and he calls me and he saysTeddy, teddy, slap the shit out
of me, slap the shit out of me.
And I look at him, he says comeon, come on, you know so.
Then I slapped him and then mycue was then I run right to the
announcer's microphone.
I said I just slapped a cracker, tell him, tell him I just
(19:45):
slapped the cracker, okay, butsee, but bob holly would, was a
guy that let me, would, let medo that.
And there were a lot of whiteguys.
You know they want no black guyslapping them on tv.
No, but bob holly was verycooperative and I never will
forget that.
But he helped that story let'ssee.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
That's a good question, by the way, and I
thought I had the uh, thequestions coming through.
Now, guys, I, okay, I, I giveup.
That's the second time aroundnow that it's still doing it all
right, um, frank the tank uhwants to know do you think there
comes a point where there istoo much wrestling?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
well, I think we're at the point now I think there's
too much now.
Every time you look, you knowthere's wrestling.
You got uh any any aew withthree or four shows or two at
least I think I've seen dynamiteor something else they got, but
anyway there's shows there.
You still got tna, which arecoming around, coming up strong,
uh, and then you've got wwe.
I think the only thing that'sreally going to help the other
(20:42):
guys is by WWE being on Netflix.
It gives these other guys achance to come on regular TV
where people can really see them, because everybody don't have
Netflix.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
No, not everybody's got Netflix.
But the other problem too to meand I agree with the premise of
the question is that is theretoo much wrestling?
I think if there's anoversaturation of it, people
will get tired of it.
Uh, I mean and, and and.
Also, at the same time, I'mglad there's enough wrestling on
TV, because at one time therewas only WWE that you saw on TV.
(21:13):
Now, because of the way weconsume our TV or our streaming,
uh, you know now that thingshave changed so much.
There are a lot more players inthe wrestling world than we've
ever had in the past.
But there comes a point whereit's all one of the same and
becomes mush, and that can hurteven the big companies, because
if people get tired of seeing somuch, they're going to get
(21:35):
tired of even the big companies,because it's just everywhere.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Well then the other thing too I don't think they got
enough talent to go around.
You know, to make the, you knowto make good tv shows.
You know it's gonna take a lotof a lot of guys, man, but all
this wrestling, but, like I said, that's, you know they'll,
these guys will figure it out.
You know, either they'll makeit work or it won't work uh, I
do see some of these.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I can read these out to you.
I would say pretty classy lady.
She did say teddy's just tryingto give back to the community.
Mac, she's laughing, she'stalking about the T-shirts, john
Adams.
Yeah thank you.
John Adams says you guys beendrinking before the show.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
We always drink before the show.
How do you think we do this?
I got to put up with him.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
But see what wrestler this is John Adams as well.
What wrestler would you haveliked?
Would have liked to have gottento the ring with that you may
not have worked with.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Wow, Golly man?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, I imagine there's a bunch of them.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I'd like to work with .
I'd like to work with.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I'd like to work with sammy zane sammy for me, and I
think it's time that sammy getssomething different.
Like that, sammy has been sammyand sammy is very good with
emotions and portraying those ontv, but he's been doing that
same thing for a long time and Ido think there is a point now
(23:03):
where it would be nice to seehim with a manager and maybe be
packaged a little bit different,because I don't think his time
in WWE is near an end.
I still think he's got a lotleft in him because, he's able
to act and portray these storiesin such a way that makes them
interesting and valuable, andhe's such a nice guy makes them
interesting and that makes youvaluable.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
And he's such a nice guy, what a great attitude and
everything.
I mean such a nice guy.
Yeah, the purpose of themanager is to restart his career
.
You know, the manager comes inand convinces him no, you're not
done.
They may think you're done, buthere's what I'm going to do for
you.
We're going to start all overand I'll tell you what.
Sammy, you're going to be awinner.
I'll make sure of that.
And then they start doing theright thing.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Herb Simmons asking what does Teddy like to do in
his downtime?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, herb, I don't do a whole lot.
I'm a gym guy, a gym rat, so Ido the gym like three days out
of the week and then I take oneday off, then I'm back in there
and that's about it for me.
And I come home with my dog,rufus, and me and him just enjoy
the rest of the day.
So I don't do a whole lot, man,I just like working out, trying
to stay in shape and stay aliveand just keep on moving.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
And Billy Slick, stopping by saying Teddy Long,
you are an absolute legend andpretty classy lady, by the way.
To get something out to me, ifyou will reach out to me through
I'm not sure how you'rewatching If you're on Facebook
send me a message throughFacebook, but you're coming
through YouTube, so I'll tellyou what.
(24:31):
Send it to Mac S-M-A-C Davismail M-A-I-L at gmailcom.
That's MacDavisMail at gmailcom.
I mac davis mail at gmailcom.
I promise that will get out toyou this week.
You get that to me and I'll getthe shirt to you.
All right, let's see uh alan onx list.
(24:51):
The following from best toworst okay, actually it looks
kind of easy to me.
Wwe, aew, tna ROH.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Top company would be.
The top company would be WWE.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Behind that?
Who would you put, Probably?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
TNA.
We're looking at a little bitof what they're doing.
Things are looking real goodfor them.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
TNA is one of those quiet companies that's always
been kind of a little bit in thebackground for years now, and
they're just waiting for thatright opportunity to make
something really happen.
And it's going to take theright storyline, first of all, I
think, to grab people'sattention, attention to bring
them over there, because theproduct is really good.
And when you compare it to thatof WWE and AEW, I agree Between
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AEW and TNA.
I tend to go with TNA more thanI do AEW.
Is that who you would put in atthird?
Would you put AEW in thirdplace then, or would you put ROH
in third place?
I'd put ROH in third place, soyou'd put AEW at the bottom of
the list right now as far as thecompanies go from best to worst
.
Yeah, all right, how much timedo we have here?
(26:09):
We still got a few more minuteshere.
Let's see Question six Samanthaname association.
Okay, yeah, this is one.
Actually, I mentioned one ofthese names earlier today.
But first of all, give me yourthoughts, any memories or
anything.
And the first name is Big Bossman.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Oh God, what a great guy man.
When I first broke inrefereeing and stuff, that's
when I was working with Ray RayTrella that was his name and,
golly man, he was anothersweetheart of a guy, great
attitude and everything, and Ihad a chance to ride with him
for a little while too.
So we worked together.
Yeah, boss, man was a great guy.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
He looked like he was not not just a fun guy to be
around, but he looked like hecould be hilarious at times.
Was he could he prank prettygood?
Or was he good at jokes, causehe came across like he could be?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
He mostly pranked himself.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
All right, here's the next name on the list Eugene
Nick Densmore.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, nick Densmore, yeah, he was another great guy.
Great attitude.
I worked with him a little bit.
Yeah, I enjoyed him.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You know he was one of those characters too.
I know he wasn't going to be along-term character.
He's kind of like theHornswoggles and other people.
There's a character there for ashort period of time where it
works and then eventually itfades away.
Eugene was one of thosecharacters, but I thought he
portrayed that character so well.
I thought he was perfect withit.
It made you care for him, youfelt sympathy for him, and a lot
(27:39):
of people can't do that.
It's very hard to make peoplefeel sympathetic for you, you
know, and genuine sympathythat's when you know how to sell
.
Yes, absolutely, let's see DaveCrone.
Teddy, I wish you could putthis on the screen.
Guys, Teddy, any funny weedstories?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
weed stories.
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I don't know man, there's a lot of funny weed
stories.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I just don't remember none of them.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
How can you remember?
Hey, let me ask you this what'syour go-to snack Munchie?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I don't really add in much as a lot.
I kind of control my appetite alittle bit and watch what I eat
so I don't get the munchies nomore.
I'm disciplined man.
I watch what I put in my body.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well, you got to be nowadays, and that includes
everything, includingprescriptions.
Oh, god, we were talking aboutthis the other day Was it
yesterday or today?
We were talking about it.
We were talking about it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
They gave me something called Gabitin Gabitin
or something, yeah, so I wentto take one.
Well, I always read everything.
So I went to take one of themand I read about it and they
said this here will cause you tocommit suicide, you'll want to
kill yourself.
So why will you sell mesomething that I'm going to take
and make me want to kill myself?
So I only took that one.
(29:04):
I ain't taking no more of them.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I watch these commercials for pharmaceuticals
all the time and it's like mostof the time I don't even know
what the drug is for thatthey're talking about, but for
about a minute they tell you allthe complications by taking the
medicine.
Death is usually one of thosethey mentioned.
Why would I want to takesomething that may kill me in my
(29:26):
sleep?
I think I told you they triedto get me on a medication before
COVID came out and it wouldlower your immune system.
Had I had done that and been onthat program and COVID came
through, brother, I would havebeen in trouble.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I would have had no protection.
You don't lower your immunesystem.
You keep your immune.
I take something for that everyday.
For my immune system.
I take it every day.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, look, I'll be straight up honest.
When we go to these shows, Ihave a little packet of this
stuff that's supposed to kind ofprotect you a little bit more
when you're in crowded areaslike airports and things like
that.
Only because you got to besmart, I mean, you know you take
care of your body, you takecare of what you do.
Everything else should fall inplace.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You take care of your body, your body will take care
of you.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Absolutely, dave Krohn.
We love you guys in St Louis.
Hey, we appreciate that verymuch.
St Louis is one of our favoriteplaces every year and we say
that because it's true.
Okay, let's get back to some ofthe names here.
We're actually a little bitover, but let's go through them
anyhow.
The next name is one that I didmention to you earlier today,
and that was Miss JackieJacqueline.
Any memories with Jacqueline.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Oh yeah, I had a great story with her One night,
me and her.
All of a sudden I ended upriding.
Well, she needed a ride, so sherode with me.
So anyway, to make a long storyshort, I think we drove from
Greensboro.
We was going to Richmond,virginia.
Well, why did I do this?
I'm really tired.
So I let Jackie drive, okay.
So the best thing about drivingnext thing I know I doze off to
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sleep.
So when I wake up, finally wakeup, I look up, we're still
riding.
Now it was only 100 miles, youknow what I mean.
We're not that far, we're stillriding.
So I look over at her and I'mlike what are you doing?
So if I find out she hasalready went 200 miles out of
the way, oh no, so now I get the.
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I'm really pissed now.
So I get Jackie, please get out.
So I get.
So I put in the passenger seat,I took over.
So now I'm really pumping itnow because we got to get, to
get to bed.
Yeah, when we look up and wepull up in the marriott in
richmond, virginia, we finallyget there, but we pull up in the
marriott at eight o'clock inthe morning.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Oh lord, guess who's?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
standing there and seen us who jbl and ron simmons?
Oh shit, did they rip me allday long about that?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Oh God.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
They gave me no rest and they told everybody that we
left Greensboro at 7 o'clockthat night and we ended up in
Richmond at 8 o'clock in themorning.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Well, I mean, you know, you got caught, you got
caught.
Hey look, we saw Jackie in StLouis.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
She's going to be with us at the River City
Wrestling Cards.
She's going to be there.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Where is that?
What town is that in?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That's in Sarasota.
No, it's in St Augustine.
I'm getting messing with you.
No, you're not St Augustine,I'm getting messing with you.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Okay, we've got a couple more names, a couple more
names on this list, and thereare a couple of good ones too.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
First of all, kevin nash oh, great guy, uh, me and
him talk on occasion.
You know what I mean?
Kevin is a kind of a cool guy,you don't?
You know, he's kind of alaid-back quiet.
Yeah, he's kind of laid back.
So every time I see him, wealways speak and hold a
conversation a little bit, andthat's it, yep all right, here's
the last name on the list and Ithink we're out of time.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
We see pretty classy lady is saying did you ever work
with Channel 17 Wrestling?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, that was the old TBS.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yep, yep, all right, here we go.
Last name on the nameassociation list is Jim Cornette
.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Oh God love Jim Cornette.
And the reason why?
Because Jim Cornette, jimCornette.
And the reason why is becauseJim Cornette is real.
He'll tell you just like it isand he ain't going to lie to you
.
And what he says out of hismouth is the total truth.
And he don't care what he saysabout some people because he
knows he's telling the truth onthem.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
So I love Jim Cornette.
Yeah, people ask me all thetime because I do another show
for Sportskeeda with Vince Russoand I get asked all the time
how do you work with Vince Russo?
And I understand why peoplefeel that way, because everybody
feels different.
But, like Jim Cornette, if youlisten to what they say, when
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they're talking about critiquingthe show and how it could be
better, more times than not,they're right.
And this will kill all three ofthem because they all, I don't
think, care for one another.
But jim cornett, vince russoand eric bischoff they get all
this heat.
They're hated so much.
But again, when you listen towhat they say, more times than
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not they're absolutely.
That's why they hate them.
Yeah, and I don't hate any ofthese guys.
I know each one of these guysand, to be honest with you, they
all ask me the same thing howdo you work with this person?
I base people on how I workwith them and that's it, you
know their history with somebodyelse.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
When I learned this, Roy, when I was in the wrestling
field, you learn one thing youcan work with a guy, but that
don't mean you have to havedinner with him.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
No, and that's the case anywhere.
Honestly, guys, I work with alot of guys in WCW WWE.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I work with a lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I wouldn't go out with them.
Let's see, we do have DaveCrone popping in with one more
question and we'll take this onein before we close out.
Was Vince really perverted,like they are saying he was, or
a scumbag, or was he cool?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Vince was a cool guy.
I don't know what they'resaying.
I don't know anything about thecase.
The only thing I know is what Iread, so you can't believe
everything you read.
But Vince was a cool guy.
That's my opinion.
Okay, he got on me one time andthat's all he needed to get on
me one time, and he never got onme again because I didn't put
myself in that position no more.
(35:10):
And the night he was getting onme I stopped him and I told him
.
I said, sir, I want you to knowone thing.
I was out there playing.
I said that will never happenagain.
And he looks back at me and hesays, yeah, you're better than
that, and he straightened me outright then.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I didn't mess nothing else up All right, Teddy,
you've got to pick a message ora question for tonight for the
free t-shirt.
Who are you going to picktonight?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I'll maybe pick the guy that whoever we just
finished talking about wanted toknow about Vince.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, because he also had the one about the funny
weed stories too.
So a couple of really goodquestions.
So I agree with that.
Dave.
You're on Facebook, so shoot mea message there with your
information and I will get thatT-shirt out with pretty classy
ladies.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
And I want you guys to wear these shirts and put
them on social media so peoplecan see where you got them from,
and they may want to say, well,how can I get mine?
Then you can tell them.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, in fact, when we were in St Louis, we had a
couple of people wearing one ofour first design T-shirts that
we had a few years ago and theyshowed up in that and we had
pictures made with them and it'salways cool to see that,
especially when they take thetime to wear that, for us to see
it as well.
We appreciate that very much.
Again, we will be in StAugustine, florida, for River
(36:28):
City Wrestling Con.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
That is June 7th and 8th,saturday and Sunday.
Teddy and I will be there forboth days and Teddy, I believe I
saw today I just reposted that,I believe on Facebook as well
that I'll be hosting a Q&A withyou and Mike Chioda.
Yes, that's going to be a lotof fun.
(36:49):
I look forward to that becausehe's been on the show before.
He's like Teddy, they don'thold back, they're just going to
tell you what they think,chioda is going to tell you the
truth.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
He's been there a long time and he knows.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yes, all right, teddy , we're out of here.
I'll see you again next week.
We will be here.
It'll be on Thursday.
You'll see us on Thursday justbefore we leave, and then you
will also see us popping in andout over the weekend while we
are in St Augustine, so you canbe a part of it as well, but be
there in person.
We'd rather have you there inperson.
All right, teddy, we're out of.
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