June 5, 2025 • 37 mins
The wrestling world is experiencing seismic shifts as corporate interests reshape the landscape that fans and performers have long known. Mac Davis and Teddy Long dive deep into these changes, offering perspectives that only industry veterans can provide.
The conversation begins with Ric Flair's latest controversy, where he dismissed Jim Ross's cancer announcement as "attention seeking" before boasting about making "$3 million at age 76" while dismissing critics who weren't "famous." Teddy doesn't mince words in his assessment of Flair's behavior, expressing disappointment in how the once-respected legend now presents himself.
As TKO tightens its grip on WWE operations, reports suggest they're reconsidering Roman Reigns' lucrative contract despite his status as the company's top star. This exemplifies the new business-focused approach that's transforming WWE under corporate ownership. Both hosts draw parallels to WCW's demise, warning that when corporations focus solely on financials without understanding wrestling's unique appeal, the product inevitably suffers.
The recent release of R-Truth sparked particularly passionate discussion. Despite being one of WWE's most beloved characters, Truth was let go in what seems like a purely business decision. Teddy reveals a conversation with Truth where he expressed feeling "free" after his release. The hosts explore exciting possibilities for Truth's future, including creative storylines involving "Little Jimmy" that could revitalize his career outside WWE's constraints.
Production quality also comes under scrutiny as the hosts compare today's WWE programming to the Attitude Era. They point to a recent Naomi-Bianca Belair segment that mentioned visiting a childhood home without showing any footage – a missed opportunity that highlights how the current product lacks the creative flourishes that once made wrestling compelling viewing.
Join us each week for unfiltered insights into professional wrestling from those who've lived it. And if you're in Florida, come meet us at River City Wrestling Con in St. Augustine this weekend!
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
and it's another thursday, seven o'clock eastern
standard time, and that means weare live with road trip after
hours.
I'm your host, mac davis, andof course, my co-host is none
other than one of my bestfriends and and I see these guys
pooch with him too there IsRufus in there.
Is that what I'm seeing, teddy?
Oh no, teddy.
Teddy, he's trying to show usthe dog here.
(00:36):
He's coming right back in.
Let's see what he's done here.
Hey you there now, I'm there now.
Yeah, I can hear you now.
You see, rufus, rufus, hey,buddy, what you doing?
Oh man, he's gotten big.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Teddy, yeah, he is man.
He's a big guy.
All right, Rufus, I want you togo on patrol now.
Don't let anybody back here.
This is a private area.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
That's right, Teddy.
I'm looking forward to thisweekend.
You and I get to spend sometime together this weekend.
We'll talk more about that injust a few moments, but I know
you're probably getting readyand Rufus.
I imagine you've got to dosomething with Rufus as well,
don't you?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well, I always take care of Rufus.
Rufus has a nice place he goes.
It's called the Bordering andthey board him there and it's a
nice big yard.
He plays, he does, you know, hehas a good time so it's a nice
place so he enjoys.
You know, sometime when I'mgone.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Pretty classy lady already here this evening, good
to see you.
And uh, your shirt went out, soyou should be seeing it, if you
haven't already.
Uh, she's saying hey, uh, andzach minger uh is in here as
well, and he's saying hello, macand teddy.
How are you?
I'm doing great, zach and teddy.
How about you?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
well, zach, I am forever feeling absolutely
fantastic.
And there's somebody there,pretty classy lady.
She wants to say hello to rufus.
Uh, rufus is going to work now.
Pretty classy lady.
Rufus is on the clock.
He has to get paid around here.
I have to feed him, so rightnow he's on patrol, that's right
he's doing his job, zach evensaying hello to Rufus.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Before we get into the questions for tonight and,
by the way, you can be a part ofthe program tonight All you
have to do is drop us a chat orquestion in the chat and we'll
throw it up on the screen andanswer that question.
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I know there should be a lot of questions tonight
with all the stuff that's goingon in the world of professional
wrestling.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh, my God yeah look guys.
And, by the way, share thisaround, let people know that we
are live.
But yeah, the news has beenabsolutely crazy.
And for what seems like it'sbecome a weekly feature, teddy,
it's what has Ric Flair said ordone this week.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So let me tell you I don't know, you know you.
I don't know you know me.
I don't keep up with none ofthat, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
That's why I love telling you this, because I get
your real reaction when you hearit.
All right, here's what happens.
The whole drama unfolded whenJim Ross announced that he had
colon cancer.
Yeah, To which Ric Flairtweeted that Jim was, quote
seeking attention.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Why would somebody play about having cancer?
I mean, that's nothing to joke.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
No, and later on he said I was just, I was being
funny, he was just joking.
It's not funny, sorry.
Even if that's what it wasmeant to be, it was a bad joke
at best.
It's not funny, sorry.
Even if that's what it wasmeant to be.
It was a bad joke at best.
Then, in response to RicFlair's callous sounding
comments about Jim Ross, dutchMantell was doing his podcast
(03:35):
with his show co-host namedJames Romero and they were
talking about what he had saidand Dutch said that Flair needed
to shut up and then Romerocalled Flair a dick, which then
got Flair hot and he startedtweeting.
Let me read you the couple oftweets I have here, teddy and
(03:56):
this is going to soundoutrageous.
Ric Flair on X Dutch Everyoneis always going to think of you
as a veteran.
That's not allowed to have anopinion, but I sympathize with
your health issues and hope yourecover and return to top health
.
You have always been a good guy.
(04:17):
The anger you pour out ateverybody is clearly coming from
the pain you feel.
Please stay strong.
After all these wise-asscomments going back and forth,
ric Flair put out one finaltweet and it said this I tried
to be nice to everybody.
God only knows that I've spentmore money on spilt liquor in
(04:42):
one year than people have in alifetime.
I tried being nice and this ismy last message to everyone I've
got more money than I've gottime.
Go F yourself, haters.
No comment needed.
Live with it.
Actually learn to love it.
Get back to me again when youmake $3 million a year at the
(05:03):
age of 76.
That's what famous gets and, bythe way, I don't recognize
anyone in this conversation whois famous.
End quote man.
What an asshole man what anasshole.
I'm just going to say it flatout when you read that, it's
like man, even if you like Flairyou read that and you're
(05:24):
thinking, man, you're an ass.
Teddy, does this surprise you?
With all the stuff that's goingon, that he's still going to?
I don't know how he hasn't beencanceled already.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Nothing surprises me.
This is professional wrestlingman, okay, so nothing surprises
me.
The thing that I try to do is Itry to stay away from all this
drama because I don't have timefor it.
You know, god has blessed me.
I'm still alive, I'm stillgetting out doing, you know,
seeing the fans and doing mything, you know, and enjoying
(05:55):
myself.
So I ain't got time for allthat negativity.
I know what happened to me andI know about all that.
But all this in the past Isurvived all that.
I made it in the world ofprofessional wrestling.
I am now a brand.
I made a name for myself.
So I don't have to suck up tonobody.
I am my own boss now.
I tell myself what to do.
I'm willing to be somebody, I'mwilling to have a boss, but
(06:19):
it's going to be on that turn.
You're the boss, I'm theemployee, but we can all get
along and do our jobs, it's justthat simple.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, I hate to see the rick flair's become what he
has.
Uh, mainly because I mean, whenI grew up honestly, teddy,
before I actually started, youknow, getting to know a lot of
people I always thought rickflair was a cool guy, and and
then you realize that what yousee on screen is actually who
you see when he's off screen andit's abrasive and it's not
(06:53):
appealing, I don't know.
Today he comes across more aslike a pimp.
To me it's like he's dressed uplike some kind of pimp, trying
to be all flashy and trying tobe 40 years younger and wearing
clothes that look ridiculous onhim, and it's like he can't let
go of that rick flair this, youknow the style and profiling guy
.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
He can't let that go well, like I said, I have no
comment man and I can justimagine what's going to happen
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Uh, by the way, uh, we'll get in that second pretty
classy lady saying I stillremember the shoot interview you
did years ago talking aboutwhat Ric Flair said to you.
I can't see him the sameanymore.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh, yeah, that's like I said.
All that's out, that's in thepast.
People know.
You know, I don't care how youfeel about it.
If you like it, you like it, ifyou don't, you don't.
It don't bother me.
All I know is I told the truthand that's the simple thing.
Is that the truth?
And anytime I say somethingabout somebody, believe me it is
the truth, because I'm notgoing to sit out here and tell a
lie, because I know once you dothat, you put a nail in the
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coffin.
They're just waiting for me orsomething to say something
that's not true.
So I'm not going to do that.
So I've kept a lot of stuff man, you know what I mean In the
back of my head and you know,like I said, if I say something
is going to be the truth.
But I'm trying to stay awayfrom all this negativity and
just try and enjoy my life, andthat's what I'm going to do.
So what these guys are sayingall of them, you know, talking
(08:19):
about each other and this andthat, stay away from me I ain't
got time for you.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
No, no, no, uh, let me uh, I just got something in
here, mark charles.
Hey, mark, good to see you inhere.
Right, that's my uh, that's mynephew.
Uh, for those of you whoprobably start scratching your
head going, huh, he's not, butwe call him my nephew.
Mark charles, the third, thecount, uh, you met him actually
in st Louis.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Oh, okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
He's the guy that had the dog that you were loving on
.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Look, I see Rufus's tail right over your shoulder,
wagging as we're talking aboutanother dog.
So now he knows Teddy.
Yeah, he's right here.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
He had to come back and check on me.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh yeah.
Well, it's a pretty classy ladysaying he's got some nerve, and
let's see John Adams saying,hey, Teddy.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Holler at a player, John Adams.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
And Mark Charles.
Monkle Mac.
Yes, monkle Mac, that's what mygrandkids my grandkids, but my
nephew used to call me.
It was Monkle Mac.
He couldn't say uncle, to savehis soul, he could say Mac.
So it was always Uncle Mac.
Uncle Mac, let's see MarkCharles.
He sees Rufus too.
Look here.
There's one thing I do want tobring up.
(09:33):
I saw this today and I assumeand I'm just going to say,
allegedly this is what's beingtossed around right now, but TKO
is reportedly reconsideringRoman Reigns' deal with WWE and
looking to lower his contractamount.
According to a report fromJonathan Coachman, tko is
(09:56):
looking to continue cuttingcosts and want to make a
significant change to Reign's$15 million a year salary.
It was noted that Reign's basesalary is actually around $5
million, but after factoring inroyalties and things such as
appearances, video games andmerchandise sales, it's actually
(10:17):
a lot larger.
In addition, it was noted thatthis is allegedly seen as
unacceptable due to Reigns'part-time status in the company
and his lack of time on WWE TV.
Teddy, does this surprise you?
With everything that's happenedin the last week, I see things
like this and you know.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, you know, in this business you just don't
know because things will changeat the drop of a hat.
But, like I said, this is thewrestling business and so what
people have to understand, youknow, sometimes when you get
these deals, you know the personthat gave you that deal.
You know that you and him maybe okay, but it's still business
(11:01):
, don't get me wrong, it's stillbusiness.
So.
But now they feel like you knowthat he's making too much money
.
You know they have the right.
You know they own half of thecompany or whatever the company.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
So they're there to make money, they're not there to
give it away.
It's not a charity, it is abusiness.
But there comes a time, teddy,when I hear things like this,
where I hear that you know theboard and people who are there,
you know pinching pennies thosepeople, when they start having a
lot of control of a wrestlingproduct, more times than not
(11:33):
that's the death of thewrestling product itself.
Wcw was a great, you know,example of that, how Time Warner
came in and they took over andit was just about the nuts and
bolts and the money and that'sit.
And they didn't understandwrestling, they didn't
understand why it was popular.
In fact, they hated the producton anything they owned.
(11:54):
Yet, you know, they decidewe're going to come in, we're
going to pinch and cuteverywhere we can and the
product died.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, like I said, and I tell you this all the time
, you know, we're not NWAanymore, we're really not WCW
anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
We're not WWE anymore , really Well yes, we are.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
We're still WWE because it's World Wrestling
Entertainment.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
But the ownership now is by TKO and not Vince McMahon
.
There's going to be a hugedifference between the two.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, well, it's like night and day.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, and I even saw where
the Good Brothers Carl Andersonand Luke Gallows had made
comment on the fact that this isno longer the WWE.
It's completely different.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That world of the WWE is now gone and it's now new
under tko uh they say, you know,maybe that's what they might be
trying to do is to get rid ofwwe.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
It could be and there's even rumors too, teddy,
and I saw this just before youcame in the room.
I saw where there are rumorsgoing around that Saudi
officials and Vince McMahoncouldn't be working together to
try to buy the WWE back.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well, allegedly well, if anybody's got the money, the
sordid people's definitely gotit yeah, and he has the contacts
I'd like to be friends with him.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yes, let's see.
Well, I got something else inhere.
Um, where'd it go?
Come on, guys, there we go.
John adams, speaking of truth,what do you think of Truth being
released by WWE?
I don't think they did a goodthing getting rid of him.
Daddy, your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Like I said, wwe is a company that I've got.
You know, I realize that theywill fire you when you don't do
your job and they'll also fireyou when you do your job.
So I talked to Truth and he'shappy with it.
I saw his statement that hemade after the release.
So you know, it's like thiswith me If Truth is happy, I
(14:04):
love it.
So ain't no going back andforth about this release,
because talking back and forthor making an argument out of it
that ain't bringing him back, soit's a waste of time.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Everybody, if you got any sense, sense at all you
know you, you can see what isgoing on yeah, and you know, a
part of me kept thinking becauseI don't know that I have seen
an official wwe comment abouthis release or that.
You know, usually you hear thewwe uh, you know wishes you, you
know the best of luck, whatever.
Know the best of luck, whatever.
(14:36):
It is the best in yourendeavors, future endeavors.
I don't recall hearing anythingabout that from WWE officially
when it came to R-Truth, whichkind of makes me wonder.
There's still a chance maybe.
But if you've talked to himmaybe that we're not getting
played.
But part of me kind of wonders,you know what?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
the hell you keep on trying to make this work.
It's not a work.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yep, it's not a work.
Oh, that's, that's a shame,really.
All right, let's see.
Uh, pretty classy lady.
Teddy, did you have any inputwhen they made your wwe theme?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
no, I did not.
I had no input whatsoever.
They just brought me in one dayand, uh well, I went in the
production truck and they playedit for me to let me know what
they had.
And that was about it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Now, the first time you had that was at what point?
When did you first get that?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Well, I got it when I first started managing Rodney
Mack, that's that.
It was kind of that.
And then they took the musicand then they just gave it to me
.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
And it was basically the white boy challenge at that
time.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Right here comes the black military time to get it on
.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
So what would you have done?
Events had sent you a music andthe music was actually some
kind of pop sounding crap.
That wouldn't have made sense.
Would you have said something?
No, I would have not.
You would have just BritneySpears was your entry entrance
music.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
You wouldn't just come on out to it, huh you're
not in that position to sayanything, okay, just go.
You don't go because you don'tnever know when that all that
could have been a work rightthere.
They could have been sayingsomething, using that to try me
to see what my reaction is goingto be.
So I learned this game, okay.
So, hey, if you want me to comeout to bing, bong, bong, I'll
do it Pretty classy lady.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
You know, it's the Mac Militant.
And Zach.
Hey, zach, good to see you inhere as well.
Mac and Teddy, my dudes.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Jack, let's see.
You got John Adams.
John Adams, I don't think itwas a good move to release him.
I don't.
When it comes to R-Truth andletting him go.
I didn't really say much aboutwhat I thought, but I will say
that I'm going to miss R-Truthand I'm going to miss him
because he brought something andI said this on Sportskeeda on a
show that we do together withBill Apter.
(16:47):
But there are very fewcharacters in the WWE that
people genuinely love.
They are attracted to them.
They love them.
When Teddy goes to a show andTeddy, I've told you this many
times before listen to the crowdbecause it's always the biggest
pop of the night it's becausethe fans love Teddy.
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The fans also love our truthand they always will, because he
brought a lighter momentSometimes to the screen that
other people could not pull off.
I'm sorry, but there are veryfew people who have the talent
that R-Truth has, and you saidthe other day and I agree with
this with as much talent as hehas, he should have been offered
(17:29):
something better than what hegot offered, based on what I'm
hearing.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, like I said, guys that have been around a
long time, like him and myself,you know what I mean, we know
this business, you know, so wecan help the younger talent,
like a lot of the guys that havean NXT.
There's always something thatthey can be taught.
You know what I'm saying.
So, like I said, I don't reallymuch worry about it anymore.
You know, like, if you canremember, when Edge got released
, he cut this promo.
(17:53):
I guess it may have been on theother people that he's working
for.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
He said in that promo and I'm reminded of it he said
I'm free now.
Yeah, you remember that, I do,I do.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I know there are a lot of people who said that Ed
said I'm free now.
Well, when I spoke the truthand just out of the blue, he
said Teddy, I love it, I love it, I'm free.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You kind of tell us about how the background may be
sometimes Well.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I tell you what guys.
I've been free for a long time.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You enjoy that too, don't you?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yes, I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Zach in here saying I can't wait to see where truth
lands again in the business.
The dude is one of the biggestdraws still and yeah, I think
especially on house shows.
If you know our truth is goingto be on a house show that they
were doing, I'd buy a ticketbecause I enjoy our truth.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
People showed you he was on live TV and they're
chatting.
They got a live TV show goingon and their people are chatting
for a guy that they just fired.
So what did that tell you?
It's real simple man people arechanting for a guy that they
just fired.
So what did that tell you?
Yep, it's real simple, man yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I don't know why they keep trying to make this a
puzzle.
Mark's in here.
Mark's good to see you.
I haven't seen you in a while.
What's up y'all?
Teddy and Mac?
Hey man, we're just hanging inhere, man.
Yeah man, mark, charles, teddy,what's your best advice for a
referee and he is a referee, bythe way he's three with the
count, so go ahead.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Well, the only thing to do the best thing for a
referee is keep your ears openand keep your mouth shut and pay
attention.
A lot of things.
The guys, well, they don't.
I see a lot of these indie guysright now.
They don't do, and that's why Ilook up.
And then when they have matchesand the referee's in one place
where he shouldn't be and allthat and that's why they don't
(19:43):
go over nothing.
So here's some advice for youIf you know your referee in a
match, they should tell you.
And you got time.
Then get with those two guysand see exactly what they're
doing.
Sit there and go overeverything in the match so that
you know what's going on.
You'll be on time and it'll bea lot better because everybody
will be on the same page.
But when you got two guys inthere, referee running around
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back in the locker room, heain't even setting the match.
You know he just waiting to goout so the people can see him.
So then that's why he looks sostupid.
When guys do something in frontand he don't even have sense
enough to turn his head, looksright at it.
You know why?
Because he didn't ask them.
He didn't know they were doingthat, so he didn't know the fuck
you know to turn his head.
So that's the best advice I cangive you Get with guys and find
(20:28):
out what they're doing, and ifthey don't want to go over that
match with you, then go to thepromoter and tell them hey, I
don't want to work with theseguys.
I'm trying to help them andthey don't want me to help them,
and also you're trying to helpyourself.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
A referee.
Like you said, you don't reallywant to be seen.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
and yet these referees think, oh, I can't wait
to get out there becauseeverybody wants to see me Nobody
, you know what JJ Dillon toldme and this has been 40 years
ago when I first walked out no,before I was about to walk out,
the first thing JJ Dillon toldme is keep your ass out of that
camera.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Referee a good referee should be invisible
until the moment he needs to bevisible.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That's what he told me, so that's how you remember.
So I'm from the old school.
I learned where it was done,right, yep.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Eric Andrus in here.
This is a boy you talk about, aname I have not heard, and just
for the, this is straight upthe truth.
I have not spoken with Eric,and Eric it's good to see you in
here probably in 30 plus years,but he's in here right now and
saying long liveE-V.
That was the very first radiojob I ever had.
(21:38):
It started at W-A-E-V andthat's where I met Eric all
those years ago.
So, man, it's good to see youin here.
When did y'all get divorced?
I didn't get divorced from Eric.
I never married Eric here's atruth nugget, though I dated his
sister.
Well, yeah, I'm sure you did.
(22:01):
That's why I'm surprised we'restill friends.
All right, let's see Marks inNew Mexico.
What's up, Mac and Teddy?
Hey?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
what's up with you, my man?
We hope you're having a blessedday.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And I'm trying to keep up with all the questions,
guys, I appreciate thateverybody's coming in here.
If you want to be a part of theshow, leave a question and, uh,
we'll throw it up on the screenas long as we can.
While we're here, zach, uh, Iwant to see R-Truth go back to
TNA.
I think that's the best placefor R-Truth to pop into and
personally I'd love to see himshow up in TNA.
I think there's history thereand I heard Teddy I don't know
(22:35):
if you've heard this Bully Rayon Busted Open the other day
laid out a scenario of whatwould be funny, and he thought
it'd be funny that if he showedup in AEW or if he showed up in
TNA, that he plays the gimmickwhere he's walking in the back
and he keeps calling people thenames of people from WWE, like
he thinks he's still there.
(22:55):
You know how he gets allabsent-minded.
I thought, man, that ishilarious, that would get over.
That's a hell of an idea andthat's why I'd love to see
somebody actually pick that ideaup and bring it to TV, because
it would be classic.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
R-Truth.
Nobody has to pick the idea up.
You know what R-Truth needs todo.
He needs to sit down and youknow, and maybe he's kind of a
little bit down and he ought tohave a conversation with little
Jimmy and little Jimmy needs tokind of help bring R-Truth back
to light.
Little Jimmy needs to be there.
Hey, it's not over.
It's not over.
You're not done.
You've got plenty more left.
(23:30):
And let little Jimmy guideR-Truth back into the spotlight.
That's the way I would do it.
Which back into the spotlight.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's the way I would do it, which is a good way
too, because he can wrestle.
I'm not going to say he can'twrestle he can wrestle with the
best of them but you've gotsomebody that has an
entertainment value to him rightthere.
There are so many videovignettes that they could do
prior to him even showing up inthe Federation.
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
what God does things for a reason.
This may be the best thing toever happen to him.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yes, okay, I think so too.
We might see the in our truththat we have never got to see
where he's allowed to be him.
Uh, john adams.
He brought all the comedianacts and he got everyone
involved and always joked withthem, and there were very few
people to make other wrestlerscrack a smile.
He was the one.
Yeah, he was man.
(24:19):
It's hard truth.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Like I said, man, this could be the best thing
that could have ever happened tohim.
Okay, what John Law Nights didto me was the best thing that
could have happened to me.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Look, I got fired one time and that was the best
thing that ever happened to me.
Despite the fact that I thoughtit was the worst day of my life
, it ended up being the bestthing that had ever happened to
me.
It made me realize I could domuch more than I was doing.
Pretty classy lady.
They also said carlito and msmight be released.
I think carlito was released.
Uh, the ms?
I was hearing that again.
That would be another name.
(24:51):
That would surprise me.
Uh, if the ms were let go,because he is also a
multifunctional guy in the back,he can do interviews.
You can send him out and dothings.
Go ahead, ted.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
They don't care, man.
No, no, they don't care, we'rejust wasting our breath.
You mean talking about thesepeople?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Dave Ruby.
Hey, what's up, guys.
My input for the night pushKarrion Kross, that is all.
Karrion K the night pushcarrion cross, that is all.
Uh, carrion cross, teddy, doyou keep up with carrion cross?
No, carrion is a is a uniquecharacter.
I like him and I think he needsto be given the right storyline
.
If he's got it and somebody canhelp direct him along the way,
(25:29):
I think he'd be fantastic.
Uh, I just think somebody's gotto believe in him first and,
for whatever reason, it seemslike they they're not given full
belief in what he might be ableto do.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Well, he has to.
He has to make them, he has tostart believing in himself, and
once he starts believing inhimself, then he can deliver to
them.
Hey, here's what I got.
This is what I can do.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
All right, let's see here Mark's uh, neither, neither
, none of those.
You don't want to.
You don't want to be GM at allperiod.
No, no, those days are behindhim.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
You know that could change.
You know if, if, if, uhpersonnel changes, you know, but
right now I don't want, I don'twant no part of it.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
No, no, but if you're , I understand what you're
saying.
Though if you're in a situationwhere you feel appreciated and
needed, uh, and you I mean, Imean you and I are the same way
I don't like sitting down andbeing at my house all day.
I can work, and as long as I'minspired to do so, man, my ass
will go 100 to nothing.
Uh, and that's how you are too.
(26:39):
I know that.
So it's like, if theenvironment's right, I'm always
interested, right?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I just want.
I just want to be be treatedfair yeah, hoss, holding hello
my friends.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Uh see you had a prostrate removed.
Oh my god, hoss, I hope you'redoing good.
Uh, we are cancer free andready for my return to the dog
pound, june 28th.
It's time to shake the boogieas I lay down the woogie uh,
yeah, yeah, I remember hoss.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Well, congratulations , man.
I'm really happy to know thatyou're cancer-free.
That's a real big move there,man.
That is outstanding.
So congratulations to you and Iremember you now and I'm sure
Rodney and Jay can't wait tohave you back there.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
And you know, hoss, I'm probably hearing somewhere
off in the background, not sure,but it sounds like it might be
Ric Flair saying you're justseeking for attention.
What are you doing?
It's ignoring.
Uh, what else do we have here?
We got a pretty classy lady.
She is saying where's it?
Come on, bring it back.
What did y'all think?
Smackdown last week, wherenaomi mentioned bianca's
(27:40):
childhood home and didn't go toher house, that was was
pointless, pretty classy lady.
I'm going to tell you that lastFriday, when, when that happened
, I have been bitching for weeksthat they don't do anything
outside of the arena.
They stay in the back.
It's always backstage,backstage, backstage.
(28:01):
It's either in the ring or it'sbackstage.
Years ago, in the Attitude Era,they, they would go places.
They'd be in a bar, they wouldbe in a hotel, they'd be
anywhere restaurants,supermarkets, all these places.
So when Naomi mentioned toBianca, I went to your parents
house while they were in Memphis.
I went to your parents housetoday and that kind of freaked
(28:23):
Bianca out like what Nothing,teddy.
She just told a story.
No film, no signs of her beingin a house and doing creepy
things.
That would have made it so muchbetter and that's where I think
the current product today ismissing out All those special
things that make it really good.
They don't care about anymoreyou don't even have to go that
(28:45):
far okay.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
When she walked up to Bianca and told her hey, I
stopped by your house today,bianca reacts.
And the next thing she does oh,and you do live at 5425
Southern Avenue, right, that'sthe address.
There's everything right there.
That told the story.
She's got her address.
Now she really knows.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
You know what I mean for bianca's, you know, I still
think that it would have beenbetter, though, if they had
naomi go out and actually creepthrough the house, much like
what they did in aew whenhangman page uh went to swerve
strickland's house and he burnedthat house down and they filmed
the entire thing, and, man, Isaw that creepy as hell I saw
that and that was real, thatthat was good, that was really
(29:26):
good.
Well, that's where they shouldhave gone.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Well, if they may, didn't want to spend the money
on it.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Again, here's the company that oh, we made all
this money record breaking, youknow, ba, ba, ba ba, and you
don't have the time or thepersonnel or the money to go out
and film something that I canfilm on my own freaking camera
phone.
I mean, it's not that hard, youdon't need a big camera crew.
This is it right here Nowadays?
(29:52):
It's right here, right?
Yeah, all right, let's see, I'mgoing to make sure I don't miss
anybody.
Eric is in here laughing afterwhat I was saying about his
sister.
Probably I'll say Zach, littleJimmy needs to help him.
Bring back Ron the Truthkillings.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yep, dave Crone stopping by and saying hello,
and who we got, teddy, I knowwe're getting over here, zach,
the knowledge that he's going tobe able to help younger guys.
Let me sit down with Truth, ohman, yeah, truth, you know, is a
wealth of knowledge and that'swhy we say there was so much
value in our truth.
Um, carlito is a new championin puerto rico.
(30:34):
Uh, yeah, he won that and he isno longer, I don't believe,
with wwe at all.
Um, john adams, have you everthought of going back into the
wrestling business?
Teddy, I haven't left thewrestling business.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Teddy, I haven't left the wrestling business.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
What he's talking about, let's see.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Just because you don't see me regular on TV, that
doesn't mean I'm, you know.
Thank you, I still have alegend deal, so I'm on the
contract, so I'm still part ofthe company.
But, like I said, I thoughtabout going back on TV and none
of that, because that don'tbother me no more.
You know, I had a great run, Ihad a great time, I had a I mean
a good time, Thanks to VinceMcMahon.
And that's it, vince McMahon.
Thank him, nobody else.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Let's see we have.
For whatever reason, guys, it'staking forever.
Last week I think it locked upon us, pretty classy lady.
Locked up on us, pretty classylady.
She's talking about anotherscene from the Attitude Era.
Edge literally went to JohnCena's childhood home and
stepped on his bed.
These are things that I againthere are little things like
(31:41):
that.
To people of us who have seenthose shows and how they were
developed and produced, we knowwhat's missing.
But a lot of times people say,well, the younger guys, they
don't know that, they don't knowwhat all we did back then.
What does that?
Is that a good pass?
I mean to me, teddy, if you'reputting out a product, you
should be putting out a betterproduct than you did the day
before.
You got somebody like Triple Hin a position where he lived
(32:01):
through the attitude era.
He knows how they went in andout of commercial breaks and
coming back into matches andmaking things last, and I don't
see it in today's product.
I don't understand that.
It's a head-scratcher for me,because he should be the first
and foremost person to go.
We've got to do it better thanthis, because this is how we
used to do it.
He has to know.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
No comment.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I hear you let's see Tony Hunter play us.
It's still in the biz.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Thank you, Tony.
Tony, we'll see you thisweekend.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I guess I would imagine we'll see you this
weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, Tony is not doing it this weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh, he's not.
Yeah, I had a chance.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I talked to him a couple days ago, so he's not
doing it.
This weekend Tony has been alittle bit under the weather,
but he's doing great now.
Man Feeling a lot better.
Man Back up on his feet, Gothis boots on the ground, so he's
ready to go.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
And one last one before we get out of here Pretty
classy Letty.
Oh, I can watch the wrestling.
Oh, where can you watch theWrestling machine?
Uh, you have to go to sportskita uh the wrestle, uh, wrestle
binge youtube page and you'llfind everything there.
Again, it's on sports kitaswrestle binge on youtube and
you'll find our show with billafter there.
(33:16):
Uh, we have a lot of fun aswell, and uh, and that that's
about all the time we got.
I do want to mention that wewill be at the river city
wrestling con this weekend, soteddy and I will be popping in
and out more than likely overSaturday and Sunday while we're
in St Augustine, and that isSaturday and Sunday, a huge
event.
This is one of these big, bigevents every year, and this is
(33:36):
at the World Golf Center WorldGolf Village, excuse me, and
it's all under one roof.
You get legends, stars, risingtalent, names like Kevin Nash,
thunder Rosa, al Snow, gangrel,brutus, beefcake, the Good
Brothers will be there, kurtAngle, michael Chioda which,
teddy?
He'll be joining us for a Q&Athat you and I will be a part of
(33:58):
with him on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I talked to him today too, man, and he's good.
He's really excited about you,excited about me and him getting
together.
So he's already there.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Oh is he.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah, talk to him today.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
He's already there.
Yeah, Some of the other namesthat'll be there too.
Big Show Melina, Devon.
I see that Devon Dudley hasbeen added.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, my baby, I'm okay.
I can't wait to see her.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Kane.
Mvp Bobby Lashley, rvd.
Mvp Bobby Lashley RVD.
Conan Dory Funk Jr.
Ddp Mick Foley, sergeantSlaughter and God knows how if
he listens to this show, we maynot see him personally and Ric
Flair will be there as well.
So it's going to be a lot ofpeople there, a lot of fun all
weekend, saturday and Sunday.
(34:44):
That's in St Augustine, florida.
Go to RiverCityWrestlingConcomfor more information If there
are any more tickets available,because they have been very
close to selling out and somethings may be sold out.
So check in on that and makesure, teddy.
Anything else you want to talkabout?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
No, I don't want to talk about anything.
I just want to thank everybodyfor joining us, you know, for
our road trip after hours.
We've been, we've come a longway and we had the opportunity
now to make it live to YouTube.
And now and I love this so muchbetter, because now we can
really talk to the fans andeverything, and you know, and
and, and whatever happens, ithappens right here, so you ain't
(35:20):
looking at no film, you knowwe're live and thank you guys
for all your support.
And if you, if you haven'tsubscribed, please subscribe.
And thank you guys for all yoursupport.
And if you haven't subscribed,please subscribe, and we'll be
doing that in St.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Augustine.
Last year we had a lot of fun.
I imagine this year is going tobe about the same.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I'm going to tell you right now don't come over to my
table until after I go andvisit the Godfather.
Once I go visit the Godfatherand come back then I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I don't think he's going to be there this year,
though I don't know.
He'll send a representative.
Okay, well, that works for me.
That representative is just asgood.
Teddy, I'll see you tomorrow.
We got a road trip tomorrow, areal-life road trip.
We'll be going down the roadand I understand I'm going to be
getting some homemade bananapudding.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, Denise told me today that she's finished making
the pudding, so she'll have thepudding for us tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So I told her.
I said Denise, me and Mac mayeat that pudding before we even
get there.
So you say that and I'mthinking about that.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
We might do that because we may be in that
position.
Oh yeah, we might be.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
We may be just that hungry.
Now that sushi restaurant yougot to save room for that, teddy
, because we went there lastyear.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
We'll do that on Saturday once we get done, yep.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Oh man, good food there.
All right, guys, we'll see youthis weekend, off and on.
So keep checking back to socialmedia, on Facebook and on
YouTube, teddy or mine and whenwe go live, you'll know it and
you'll see what's happeningright there at River City
Wrestling Con.
We'll see you this weekend,Holla play.
and it's another thursday, seven o'clock eastern
standard time, and that means weare live with road trip after
hours.
I'm your host, mac davis, andof course, my co-host is none
other than one of my bestfriends and and I see these guys
pooch with him too there IsRufus in there.
Is that what I'm seeing, teddy?
Oh no, teddy.
Teddy, he's trying to show usthe dog here.
(00:36):
He's coming right back in.
Let's see what he's done here.
Hey you there now, I'm there now.
Yeah, I can hear you now.
You see, rufus, rufus, hey,buddy, what you doing?
Oh man, he's gotten big.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Teddy, yeah, he is man.
He's a big guy.
All right, Rufus, I want you togo on patrol now.
Don't let anybody back here.
This is a private area.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
That's right, Teddy.
I'm looking forward to thisweekend.
You and I get to spend sometime together this weekend.
We'll talk more about that injust a few moments, but I know
you're probably getting readyand Rufus.
I imagine you've got to dosomething with Rufus as well,
don't you?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well, I always take care of Rufus.
Rufus has a nice place he goes.
It's called the Bordering andthey board him there and it's a
nice big yard.
He plays, he does, you know, hehas a good time so it's a nice
place so he enjoys.
You know, sometime when I'mgone.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Pretty classy lady already here this evening, good
to see you.
And uh, your shirt went out, soyou should be seeing it, if you
haven't already.
Uh, she's saying hey, uh, andzach minger uh is in here as
well, and he's saying hello, macand teddy.
How are you?
I'm doing great, zach and teddy.
How about you?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
well, zach, I am forever feeling absolutely
fantastic.
And there's somebody there,pretty classy lady.
She wants to say hello to rufus.
Uh, rufus is going to work now.
Pretty classy lady.
Rufus is on the clock.
He has to get paid around here.
I have to feed him, so rightnow he's on patrol, that's right
he's doing his job, zach evensaying hello to Rufus.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Before we get into the questions for tonight and,
by the way, you can be a part ofthe program tonight All you
have to do is drop us a chat orquestion in the chat and we'll
throw it up on the screen andanswer that question.
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I know there should be a lot of questions tonight
with all the stuff that's goingon in the world of professional
wrestling.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh, my God yeah look guys.
And, by the way, share thisaround, let people know that we
are live.
But yeah, the news has beenabsolutely crazy.
And for what seems like it'sbecome a weekly feature, teddy,
it's what has Ric Flair said ordone this week.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So let me tell you I don't know, you know you.
I don't know you know me.
I don't keep up with none ofthat, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
That's why I love telling you this, because I get
your real reaction when you hearit.
All right, here's what happens.
The whole drama unfolded whenJim Ross announced that he had
colon cancer.
Yeah, To which Ric Flairtweeted that Jim was, quote
seeking attention.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Why would somebody play about having cancer?
I mean, that's nothing to joke.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
No, and later on he said I was just, I was being
funny, he was just joking.
It's not funny, sorry.
Even if that's what it wasmeant to be, it was a bad joke
at best.
It's not funny, sorry.
Even if that's what it wasmeant to be.
It was a bad joke at best.
Then, in response to RicFlair's callous sounding
comments about Jim Ross, dutchMantell was doing his podcast
(03:35):
with his show co-host namedJames Romero and they were
talking about what he had saidand Dutch said that Flair needed
to shut up and then Romerocalled Flair a dick, which then
got Flair hot and he startedtweeting.
Let me read you the couple oftweets I have here, teddy and
(03:56):
this is going to soundoutrageous.
Ric Flair on X Dutch Everyoneis always going to think of you
as a veteran.
That's not allowed to have anopinion, but I sympathize with
your health issues and hope yourecover and return to top health
.
You have always been a good guy.
(04:17):
The anger you pour out ateverybody is clearly coming from
the pain you feel.
Please stay strong.
After all these wise-asscomments going back and forth,
ric Flair put out one finaltweet and it said this I tried
to be nice to everybody.
God only knows that I've spentmore money on spilt liquor in
(04:42):
one year than people have in alifetime.
I tried being nice and this ismy last message to everyone I've
got more money than I've gottime.
Go F yourself, haters.
No comment needed.
Live with it.
Actually learn to love it.
Get back to me again when youmake $3 million a year at the
(05:03):
age of 76.
That's what famous gets and, bythe way, I don't recognize
anyone in this conversation whois famous.
End quote man.
What an asshole man what anasshole.
I'm just going to say it flatout when you read that, it's
like man, even if you like Flairyou read that and you're
(05:24):
thinking, man, you're an ass.
Teddy, does this surprise you?
With all the stuff that's goingon, that he's still going to?
I don't know how he hasn't beencanceled already.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Nothing surprises me.
This is professional wrestlingman, okay, so nothing surprises
me.
The thing that I try to do is Itry to stay away from all this
drama because I don't have timefor it.
You know, god has blessed me.
I'm still alive, I'm stillgetting out doing, you know,
seeing the fans and doing mything, you know, and enjoying
(05:55):
myself.
So I ain't got time for allthat negativity.
I know what happened to me andI know about all that.
But all this in the past Isurvived all that.
I made it in the world ofprofessional wrestling.
I am now a brand.
I made a name for myself.
So I don't have to suck up tonobody.
I am my own boss now.
I tell myself what to do.
I'm willing to be somebody, I'mwilling to have a boss, but
(06:19):
it's going to be on that turn.
You're the boss, I'm theemployee, but we can all get
along and do our jobs, it's justthat simple.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, I hate to see the rick flair's become what he
has.
Uh, mainly because I mean, whenI grew up honestly, teddy,
before I actually started, youknow, getting to know a lot of
people I always thought rickflair was a cool guy, and and
then you realize that what yousee on screen is actually who
you see when he's off screen andit's abrasive and it's not
(06:53):
appealing, I don't know.
Today he comes across more aslike a pimp.
To me it's like he's dressed uplike some kind of pimp, trying
to be all flashy and trying tobe 40 years younger and wearing
clothes that look ridiculous onhim, and it's like he can't let
go of that rick flair this, youknow the style and profiling guy
.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
He can't let that go well, like I said, I have no
comment man and I can justimagine what's going to happen
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Uh, by the way, uh, we'll get in that second pretty
classy lady saying I stillremember the shoot interview you
did years ago talking aboutwhat Ric Flair said to you.
I can't see him the sameanymore.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh, yeah, that's like I said.
All that's out, that's in thepast.
People know.
You know, I don't care how youfeel about it.
If you like it, you like it, ifyou don't, you don't.
It don't bother me.
All I know is I told the truthand that's the simple thing.
Is that the truth?
And anytime I say somethingabout somebody, believe me it is
the truth, because I'm notgoing to sit out here and tell a
lie, because I know once you dothat, you put a nail in the
(07:59):
coffin.
They're just waiting for me orsomething to say something
that's not true.
So I'm not going to do that.
So I've kept a lot of stuff man, you know what I mean In the
back of my head and you know,like I said, if I say something
is going to be the truth.
But I'm trying to stay awayfrom all this negativity and
just try and enjoy my life, andthat's what I'm going to do.
So what these guys are sayingall of them, you know, talking
(08:19):
about each other and this andthat, stay away from me I ain't
got time for you.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
No, no, no, uh, let me uh, I just got something in
here, mark charles.
Hey, mark, good to see you inhere.
Right, that's my uh, that's mynephew.
Uh, for those of you whoprobably start scratching your
head going, huh, he's not, butwe call him my nephew.
Mark charles, the third, thecount, uh, you met him actually
in st Louis.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Oh, okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
He's the guy that had the dog that you were loving on
.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Look, I see Rufus's tail right over your shoulder,
wagging as we're talking aboutanother dog.
So now he knows Teddy.
Yeah, he's right here.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
He had to come back and check on me.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh yeah.
Well, it's a pretty classy ladysaying he's got some nerve, and
let's see John Adams saying,hey, Teddy.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Holler at a player, John Adams.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
And Mark Charles.
Monkle Mac.
Yes, monkle Mac, that's what mygrandkids my grandkids, but my
nephew used to call me.
It was Monkle Mac.
He couldn't say uncle, to savehis soul, he could say Mac.
So it was always Uncle Mac.
Uncle Mac, let's see MarkCharles.
He sees Rufus too.
Look here.
There's one thing I do want tobring up.
(09:33):
I saw this today and I assumeand I'm just going to say,
allegedly this is what's beingtossed around right now, but TKO
is reportedly reconsideringRoman Reigns' deal with WWE and
looking to lower his contractamount.
According to a report fromJonathan Coachman, tko is
(09:56):
looking to continue cuttingcosts and want to make a
significant change to Reign's$15 million a year salary.
It was noted that Reign's basesalary is actually around $5
million, but after factoring inroyalties and things such as
appearances, video games andmerchandise sales, it's actually
(10:17):
a lot larger.
In addition, it was noted thatthis is allegedly seen as
unacceptable due to Reigns'part-time status in the company
and his lack of time on WWE TV.
Teddy, does this surprise you?
With everything that's happenedin the last week, I see things
like this and you know.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, you know, in this business you just don't
know because things will changeat the drop of a hat.
But, like I said, this is thewrestling business and so what
people have to understand, youknow, sometimes when you get
these deals, you know the personthat gave you that deal.
You know that you and him maybe okay, but it's still business
(11:01):
, don't get me wrong, it's stillbusiness.
So.
But now they feel like you knowthat he's making too much money
.
You know they have the right.
You know they own half of thecompany or whatever the company.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
So they're there to make money, they're not there to
give it away.
It's not a charity, it is abusiness.
But there comes a time, teddy,when I hear things like this,
where I hear that you know theboard and people who are there,
you know pinching pennies thosepeople, when they start having a
lot of control of a wrestlingproduct, more times than not
(11:33):
that's the death of thewrestling product itself.
Wcw was a great, you know,example of that, how Time Warner
came in and they took over andit was just about the nuts and
bolts and the money and that'sit.
And they didn't understandwrestling, they didn't
understand why it was popular.
In fact, they hated the producton anything they owned.
(11:54):
Yet, you know, they decidewe're going to come in, we're
going to pinch and cuteverywhere we can and the
product died.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, like I said, and I tell you this all the time
, you know, we're not NWAanymore, we're really not WCW
anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
We're not WWE anymore , really Well yes, we are.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
We're still WWE because it's World Wrestling
Entertainment.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
But the ownership now is by TKO and not Vince McMahon
.
There's going to be a hugedifference between the two.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, well, it's like night and day.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, and I even saw where
the Good Brothers Carl Andersonand Luke Gallows had made
comment on the fact that this isno longer the WWE.
It's completely different.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That world of the WWE is now gone and it's now new
under tko uh they say, you know,maybe that's what they might be
trying to do is to get rid ofwwe.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
It could be and there's even rumors too, teddy,
and I saw this just before youcame in the room.
I saw where there are rumorsgoing around that Saudi
officials and Vince McMahoncouldn't be working together to
try to buy the WWE back.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well, allegedly well, if anybody's got the money, the
sordid people's definitely gotit yeah, and he has the contacts
I'd like to be friends with him.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yes, let's see.
Well, I got something else inhere.
Um, where'd it go?
Come on, guys, there we go.
John adams, speaking of truth,what do you think of Truth being
released by WWE?
I don't think they did a goodthing getting rid of him.
Daddy, your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Like I said, wwe is a company that I've got.
You know, I realize that theywill fire you when you don't do
your job and they'll also fireyou when you do your job.
So I talked to Truth and he'shappy with it.
I saw his statement that hemade after the release.
So you know, it's like thiswith me If Truth is happy, I
(14:04):
love it.
So ain't no going back andforth about this release,
because talking back and forthor making an argument out of it
that ain't bringing him back, soit's a waste of time.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Everybody, if you got any sense, sense at all you
know you, you can see what isgoing on yeah, and you know, a
part of me kept thinking becauseI don't know that I have seen
an official wwe comment abouthis release or that.
You know, usually you hear thewwe uh, you know wishes you, you
know the best of luck, whatever.
Know the best of luck, whatever.
(14:36):
It is the best in yourendeavors, future endeavors.
I don't recall hearing anythingabout that from WWE officially
when it came to R-Truth, whichkind of makes me wonder.
There's still a chance maybe.
But if you've talked to himmaybe that we're not getting
played.
But part of me kind of wonders,you know what?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
the hell you keep on trying to make this work.
It's not a work.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yep, it's not a work.
Oh, that's, that's a shame,really.
All right, let's see.
Uh, pretty classy lady.
Teddy, did you have any inputwhen they made your wwe theme?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
no, I did not.
I had no input whatsoever.
They just brought me in one dayand, uh well, I went in the
production truck and they playedit for me to let me know what
they had.
And that was about it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Now, the first time you had that was at what point?
When did you first get that?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Well, I got it when I first started managing Rodney
Mack, that's that.
It was kind of that.
And then they took the musicand then they just gave it to me
.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
And it was basically the white boy challenge at that
time.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Right here comes the black military time to get it on
.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
So what would you have done?
Events had sent you a music andthe music was actually some
kind of pop sounding crap.
That wouldn't have made sense.
Would you have said something?
No, I would have not.
You would have just BritneySpears was your entry entrance
music.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
You wouldn't just come on out to it, huh you're
not in that position to sayanything, okay, just go.
You don't go because you don'tnever know when that all that
could have been a work rightthere.
They could have been sayingsomething, using that to try me
to see what my reaction is goingto be.
So I learned this game, okay.
So, hey, if you want me to comeout to bing, bong, bong, I'll
do it Pretty classy lady.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
You know, it's the Mac Militant.
And Zach.
Hey, zach, good to see you inhere as well.
Mac and Teddy, my dudes.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Jack, let's see.
You got John Adams.
John Adams, I don't think itwas a good move to release him.
I don't.
When it comes to R-Truth andletting him go.
I didn't really say much aboutwhat I thought, but I will say
that I'm going to miss R-Truthand I'm going to miss him
because he brought something andI said this on Sportskeeda on a
show that we do together withBill Apter.
(16:47):
But there are very fewcharacters in the WWE that
people genuinely love.
They are attracted to them.
They love them.
When Teddy goes to a show andTeddy, I've told you this many
times before listen to the crowdbecause it's always the biggest
pop of the night it's becausethe fans love Teddy.
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The fans also love our truthand they always will, because he
brought a lighter momentSometimes to the screen that
other people could not pull off.
I'm sorry, but there are veryfew people who have the talent
that R-Truth has, and you saidthe other day and I agree with
this with as much talent as hehas, he should have been offered
(17:29):
something better than what hegot offered, based on what I'm
hearing.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, like I said, guys that have been around a
long time, like him and myself,you know what I mean, we know
this business, you know, so wecan help the younger talent,
like a lot of the guys that havean NXT.
There's always something thatthey can be taught.
You know what I'm saying.
So, like I said, I don't reallymuch worry about it anymore.
You know, like, if you canremember, when Edge got released
, he cut this promo.
(17:53):
I guess it may have been on theother people that he's working
for.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
He said in that promo and I'm reminded of it he said
I'm free now.
Yeah, you remember that, I do,I do.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I know there are a lot of people who said that Ed
said I'm free now.
Well, when I spoke the truthand just out of the blue, he
said Teddy, I love it, I love it, I'm free.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You kind of tell us about how the background may be
sometimes Well.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I tell you what guys.
I've been free for a long time.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You enjoy that too, don't you?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yes, I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Zach in here saying I can't wait to see where truth
lands again in the business.
The dude is one of the biggestdraws still and yeah, I think
especially on house shows.
If you know our truth is goingto be on a house show that they
were doing, I'd buy a ticketbecause I enjoy our truth.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
People showed you he was on live TV and they're
chatting.
They got a live TV show goingon and their people are chatting
for a guy that they just fired.
So what did that tell you?
It's real simple man people arechanting for a guy that they
just fired.
So what did that tell you?
Yep, it's real simple, man yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I don't know why they keep trying to make this a
puzzle.
Mark's in here.
Mark's good to see you.
I haven't seen you in a while.
What's up y'all?
Teddy and Mac?
Hey man, we're just hanging inhere, man.
Yeah man, mark, charles, teddy,what's your best advice for a
referee and he is a referee, bythe way he's three with the
count, so go ahead.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Well, the only thing to do the best thing for a
referee is keep your ears openand keep your mouth shut and pay
attention.
A lot of things.
The guys, well, they don't.
I see a lot of these indie guysright now.
They don't do, and that's why Ilook up.
And then when they have matchesand the referee's in one place
where he shouldn't be and allthat and that's why they don't
(19:43):
go over nothing.
So here's some advice for youIf you know your referee in a
match, they should tell you.
And you got time.
Then get with those two guysand see exactly what they're
doing.
Sit there and go overeverything in the match so that
you know what's going on.
You'll be on time and it'll bea lot better because everybody
will be on the same page.
But when you got two guys inthere, referee running around
(20:06):
back in the locker room, heain't even setting the match.
You know he just waiting to goout so the people can see him.
So then that's why he looks sostupid.
When guys do something in frontand he don't even have sense
enough to turn his head, looksright at it.
You know why?
Because he didn't ask them.
He didn't know they were doingthat, so he didn't know the fuck
you know to turn his head.
So that's the best advice I cangive you Get with guys and find
(20:28):
out what they're doing, and ifthey don't want to go over that
match with you, then go to thepromoter and tell them hey, I
don't want to work with theseguys.
I'm trying to help them andthey don't want me to help them,
and also you're trying to helpyourself.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
A referee.
Like you said, you don't reallywant to be seen.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
and yet these referees think, oh, I can't wait
to get out there becauseeverybody wants to see me Nobody
, you know what JJ Dillon toldme and this has been 40 years
ago when I first walked out no,before I was about to walk out,
the first thing JJ Dillon toldme is keep your ass out of that
camera.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Referee a good referee should be invisible
until the moment he needs to bevisible.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That's what he told me, so that's how you remember.
So I'm from the old school.
I learned where it was done,right, yep.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Eric Andrus in here.
This is a boy you talk about, aname I have not heard, and just
for the, this is straight upthe truth.
I have not spoken with Eric,and Eric it's good to see you in
here probably in 30 plus years,but he's in here right now and
saying long liveE-V.
That was the very first radiojob I ever had.
(21:38):
It started at W-A-E-V andthat's where I met Eric all
those years ago.
So, man, it's good to see youin here.
When did y'all get divorced?
I didn't get divorced from Eric.
I never married Eric here's atruth nugget, though I dated his
sister.
Well, yeah, I'm sure you did.
(22:01):
That's why I'm surprised we'restill friends.
All right, let's see Marks inNew Mexico.
What's up, Mac and Teddy?
Hey?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
what's up with you, my man?
We hope you're having a blessedday.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And I'm trying to keep up with all the questions,
guys, I appreciate thateverybody's coming in here.
If you want to be a part of theshow, leave a question and, uh,
we'll throw it up on the screenas long as we can.
While we're here, zach, uh, Iwant to see R-Truth go back to
TNA.
I think that's the best placefor R-Truth to pop into and
personally I'd love to see himshow up in TNA.
I think there's history thereand I heard Teddy I don't know
(22:35):
if you've heard this Bully Rayon Busted Open the other day
laid out a scenario of whatwould be funny, and he thought
it'd be funny that if he showedup in AEW or if he showed up in
TNA, that he plays the gimmickwhere he's walking in the back
and he keeps calling people thenames of people from WWE, like
he thinks he's still there.
(22:55):
You know how he gets allabsent-minded.
I thought, man, that ishilarious, that would get over.
That's a hell of an idea andthat's why I'd love to see
somebody actually pick that ideaup and bring it to TV, because
it would be classic.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
R-Truth.
Nobody has to pick the idea up.
You know what R-Truth needs todo.
He needs to sit down and youknow, and maybe he's kind of a
little bit down and he ought tohave a conversation with little
Jimmy and little Jimmy needs tokind of help bring R-Truth back
to light.
Little Jimmy needs to be there.
Hey, it's not over.
It's not over.
You're not done.
You've got plenty more left.
(23:30):
And let little Jimmy guideR-Truth back into the spotlight.
That's the way I would do it.
Which back into the spotlight.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's the way I would do it, which is a good way
too, because he can wrestle.
I'm not going to say he can'twrestle he can wrestle with the
best of them but you've gotsomebody that has an
entertainment value to him rightthere.
There are so many videovignettes that they could do
prior to him even showing up inthe Federation.
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
what God does things for a reason.
This may be the best thing toever happen to him.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yes, okay, I think so too.
We might see the in our truththat we have never got to see
where he's allowed to be him.
Uh, john adams.
He brought all the comedianacts and he got everyone
involved and always joked withthem, and there were very few
people to make other wrestlerscrack a smile.
He was the one.
Yeah, he was man.
(24:19):
It's hard truth.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Like I said, man, this could be the best thing
that could have ever happened tohim.
Okay, what John Law Nights didto me was the best thing that
could have happened to me.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Look, I got fired one time and that was the best
thing that ever happened to me.
Despite the fact that I thoughtit was the worst day of my life
, it ended up being the bestthing that had ever happened to
me.
It made me realize I could domuch more than I was doing.
Pretty classy lady.
They also said carlito and msmight be released.
I think carlito was released.
Uh, the ms?
I was hearing that again.
That would be another name.
(24:51):
That would surprise me.
Uh, if the ms were let go,because he is also a
multifunctional guy in the back,he can do interviews.
You can send him out and dothings.
Go ahead, ted.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
They don't care, man.
No, no, they don't care, we'rejust wasting our breath.
You mean talking about thesepeople?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Dave Ruby.
Hey, what's up, guys.
My input for the night pushKarrion Kross, that is all.
Karrion K the night pushcarrion cross, that is all.
Uh, carrion cross, teddy, doyou keep up with carrion cross?
No, carrion is a is a uniquecharacter.
I like him and I think he needsto be given the right storyline
.
If he's got it and somebody canhelp direct him along the way,
(25:29):
I think he'd be fantastic.
Uh, I just think somebody's gotto believe in him first and,
for whatever reason, it seemslike they they're not given full
belief in what he might be ableto do.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Well, he has to.
He has to make them, he has tostart believing in himself, and
once he starts believing inhimself, then he can deliver to
them.
Hey, here's what I got.
This is what I can do.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
All right, let's see here Mark's uh, neither, neither
, none of those.
You don't want to.
You don't want to be GM at allperiod.
No, no, those days are behindhim.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
You know that could change.
You know if, if, if, uhpersonnel changes, you know, but
right now I don't want, I don'twant no part of it.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
No, no, but if you're , I understand what you're
saying.
Though if you're in a situationwhere you feel appreciated and
needed, uh, and you I mean, Imean you and I are the same way
I don't like sitting down andbeing at my house all day.
I can work, and as long as I'minspired to do so, man, my ass
will go 100 to nothing.
Uh, and that's how you are too.
(26:39):
I know that.
So it's like, if theenvironment's right, I'm always
interested, right?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I just want.
I just want to be be treatedfair yeah, hoss, holding hello
my friends.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Uh see you had a prostrate removed.
Oh my god, hoss, I hope you'redoing good.
Uh, we are cancer free andready for my return to the dog
pound, june 28th.
It's time to shake the boogieas I lay down the woogie uh,
yeah, yeah, I remember hoss.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Well, congratulations , man.
I'm really happy to know thatyou're cancer-free.
That's a real big move there,man.
That is outstanding.
So congratulations to you and Iremember you now and I'm sure
Rodney and Jay can't wait tohave you back there.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
And you know, hoss, I'm probably hearing somewhere
off in the background, not sure,but it sounds like it might be
Ric Flair saying you're justseeking for attention.
What are you doing?
It's ignoring.
Uh, what else do we have here?
We got a pretty classy lady.
She is saying where's it?
Come on, bring it back.
What did y'all think?
Smackdown last week, wherenaomi mentioned bianca's
(27:40):
childhood home and didn't go toher house, that was was
pointless, pretty classy lady.
I'm going to tell you that lastFriday, when, when that happened
, I have been bitching for weeksthat they don't do anything
outside of the arena.
They stay in the back.
It's always backstage,backstage, backstage.
(28:01):
It's either in the ring or it'sbackstage.
Years ago, in the Attitude Era,they, they would go places.
They'd be in a bar, they wouldbe in a hotel, they'd be
anywhere restaurants,supermarkets, all these places.
So when Naomi mentioned toBianca, I went to your parents
house while they were in Memphis.
I went to your parents housetoday and that kind of freaked
(28:23):
Bianca out like what Nothing,teddy.
She just told a story.
No film, no signs of her beingin a house and doing creepy
things.
That would have made it so muchbetter and that's where I think
the current product today ismissing out All those special
things that make it really good.
They don't care about anymoreyou don't even have to go that
(28:45):
far okay.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
When she walked up to Bianca and told her hey, I
stopped by your house today,bianca reacts.
And the next thing she does oh,and you do live at 5425
Southern Avenue, right, that'sthe address.
There's everything right there.
That told the story.
She's got her address.
Now she really knows.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
You know what I mean for bianca's, you know, I still
think that it would have beenbetter, though, if they had
naomi go out and actually creepthrough the house, much like
what they did in aew whenhangman page uh went to swerve
strickland's house and he burnedthat house down and they filmed
the entire thing, and, man, Isaw that creepy as hell I saw
that and that was real, thatthat was good, that was really
(29:26):
good.
Well, that's where they shouldhave gone.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Well, if they may, didn't want to spend the money
on it.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Again, here's the company that oh, we made all
this money record breaking, youknow, ba, ba, ba ba, and you
don't have the time or thepersonnel or the money to go out
and film something that I canfilm on my own freaking camera
phone.
I mean, it's not that hard, youdon't need a big camera crew.
This is it right here Nowadays?
(29:52):
It's right here, right?
Yeah, all right, let's see, I'mgoing to make sure I don't miss
anybody.
Eric is in here laughing afterwhat I was saying about his
sister.
Probably I'll say Zach, littleJimmy needs to help him.
Bring back Ron the Truthkillings.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yep, dave Crone stopping by and saying hello,
and who we got, teddy, I knowwe're getting over here, zach,
the knowledge that he's going tobe able to help younger guys.
Let me sit down with Truth, ohman, yeah, truth, you know, is a
wealth of knowledge and that'swhy we say there was so much
value in our truth.
Um, carlito is a new championin puerto rico.
(30:34):
Uh, yeah, he won that and he isno longer, I don't believe,
with wwe at all.
Um, john adams, have you everthought of going back into the
wrestling business?
Teddy, I haven't left thewrestling business.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Teddy, I haven't left the wrestling business.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
What he's talking about, let's see.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Just because you don't see me regular on TV, that
doesn't mean I'm, you know.
Thank you, I still have alegend deal, so I'm on the
contract, so I'm still part ofthe company.
But, like I said, I thoughtabout going back on TV and none
of that, because that don'tbother me no more.
You know, I had a great run, Ihad a great time, I had a I mean
a good time, Thanks to VinceMcMahon.
And that's it, vince McMahon.
Thank him, nobody else.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Let's see we have.
For whatever reason, guys, it'staking forever.
Last week I think it locked upon us, pretty classy lady.
Locked up on us, pretty classylady.
She's talking about anotherscene from the Attitude Era.
Edge literally went to JohnCena's childhood home and
stepped on his bed.
These are things that I againthere are little things like
(31:41):
that.
To people of us who have seenthose shows and how they were
developed and produced, we knowwhat's missing.
But a lot of times people say,well, the younger guys, they
don't know that, they don't knowwhat all we did back then.
What does that?
Is that a good pass?
I mean to me, teddy, if you'reputting out a product, you
should be putting out a betterproduct than you did the day
before.
You got somebody like Triple Hin a position where he lived
(32:01):
through the attitude era.
He knows how they went in andout of commercial breaks and
coming back into matches andmaking things last, and I don't
see it in today's product.
I don't understand that.
It's a head-scratcher for me,because he should be the first
and foremost person to go.
We've got to do it better thanthis, because this is how we
used to do it.
He has to know.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
No comment.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I hear you let's see Tony Hunter play us.
It's still in the biz.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Thank you, Tony.
Tony, we'll see you thisweekend.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I guess I would imagine we'll see you this
weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, Tony is not doing it this weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh, he's not.
Yeah, I had a chance.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I talked to him a couple days ago, so he's not
doing it.
This weekend Tony has been alittle bit under the weather,
but he's doing great now.
Man Feeling a lot better.
Man Back up on his feet, Gothis boots on the ground, so he's
ready to go.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
And one last one before we get out of here Pretty
classy Letty.
Oh, I can watch the wrestling.
Oh, where can you watch theWrestling machine?
Uh, you have to go to sportskita uh the wrestle, uh, wrestle
binge youtube page and you'llfind everything there.
Again, it's on sports kitaswrestle binge on youtube and
you'll find our show with billafter there.
(33:16):
Uh, we have a lot of fun aswell, and uh, and that that's
about all the time we got.
I do want to mention that wewill be at the river city
wrestling con this weekend, soteddy and I will be popping in
and out more than likely overSaturday and Sunday while we're
in St Augustine, and that isSaturday and Sunday, a huge
event.
This is one of these big, bigevents every year, and this is
(33:36):
at the World Golf Center WorldGolf Village, excuse me, and
it's all under one roof.
You get legends, stars, risingtalent, names like Kevin Nash,
thunder Rosa, al Snow, gangrel,brutus, beefcake, the Good
Brothers will be there, kurtAngle, michael Chioda which,
teddy?
He'll be joining us for a Q&Athat you and I will be a part of
(33:58):
with him on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I talked to him today too, man, and he's good.
He's really excited about you,excited about me and him getting
together.
So he's already there.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Oh is he.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah, talk to him today.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
He's already there.
Yeah, Some of the other namesthat'll be there too.
Big Show Melina, Devon.
I see that Devon Dudley hasbeen added.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, my baby, I'm okay.
I can't wait to see her.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Kane.
Mvp Bobby Lashley, rvd.
Mvp Bobby Lashley RVD.
Conan Dory Funk Jr.
Ddp Mick Foley, sergeantSlaughter and God knows how if
he listens to this show, we maynot see him personally and Ric
Flair will be there as well.
So it's going to be a lot ofpeople there, a lot of fun all
weekend, saturday and Sunday.
(34:44):
That's in St Augustine, florida.
Go to RiverCityWrestlingConcomfor more information If there
are any more tickets available,because they have been very
close to selling out and somethings may be sold out.
So check in on that and makesure, teddy.
Anything else you want to talkabout?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
No, I don't want to talk about anything.
I just want to thank everybodyfor joining us, you know, for
our road trip after hours.
We've been, we've come a longway and we had the opportunity
now to make it live to YouTube.
And now and I love this so muchbetter, because now we can
really talk to the fans andeverything, and you know, and
and, and whatever happens, ithappens right here, so you ain't
(35:20):
looking at no film, you knowwe're live and thank you guys
for all your support.
And if you, if you haven'tsubscribed, please subscribe.
And thank you guys for all yoursupport.
And if you haven't subscribed,please subscribe, and we'll be
doing that in St.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Augustine.
Last year we had a lot of fun.
I imagine this year is going tobe about the same.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I'm going to tell you right now don't come over to my
table until after I go andvisit the Godfather.
Once I go visit the Godfatherand come back then I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I don't think he's going to be there this year,
though I don't know.
He'll send a representative.
Okay, well, that works for me.
That representative is just asgood.
Teddy, I'll see you tomorrow.
We got a road trip tomorrow, areal-life road trip.
We'll be going down the roadand I understand I'm going to be
getting some homemade bananapudding.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, Denise told me today that she's finished making
the pudding, so she'll have thepudding for us tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So I told her.
I said Denise, me and Mac mayeat that pudding before we even
get there.
So you say that and I'mthinking about that.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
We might do that because we may be in that
position.
Oh yeah, we might be.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
We may be just that hungry.
Now that sushi restaurant yougot to save room for that, teddy
, because we went there lastyear.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
We'll do that on Saturday once we get done, yep.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Oh man, good food there.
All right, guys, we'll see youthis weekend, off and on.
So keep checking back to socialmedia, on Facebook and on
YouTube, teddy or mine and whenwe go live, you'll know it and
you'll see what's happeningright there at River City
Wrestling Con.
We'll see you this weekend,Holla play.
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