Ancient & Modern Memetics: the Most Ancient Magic of Warfare and Control

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Wallet, sweet eternal balance of all that. It's good, true,
and beautiful friends, Welcome back to rogue Ways were tonight
we're talking about the ancient and modern memes or mimetics,
the study of those memes. It is actually one of
the most ancient magics, and in the present day it's

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being used for warfare and control mostly and by random
people who have no idea. They're using the medic warfare,
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we're talking today about memes and mimetics, and mametics is
a field of study, and mometics is considered a mathematic
field of study. It could easily be considered a sociological
area of study. It is an academic area of study.
Mametics and the term meme was actually coined by Richard Dawkins,

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who is a scientist. Some say CIA who knows that
Richard Dawkins is a scientist who coined the term meme
in his nineteen seventy six book which many people have
heard of. Many people have read The Selfish Gene. The
Selfish Gene. There's a lot that a lot of people
could criticize about the book in general, about this concept

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of the selfish gene and the types of things he
talks about. There's a lot that people criticize about again
whether or not this is propaganda in a way or
you know, intentional sort of societal framing and crafting, And
maybe it is. It could also be accidental, as I
always say, like there could be a conspiracy there. It
could also be that this is just genuinely what he

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believed and said, and it just also seems to dovetail
with some agendas that we see in the world. So
you know, you go where you want with that, it's cool.
But either way, he coined this term meme. Meme. You'll
notice in nineteen seventy six, we didn't have the Internet.
We didn't have what most people most of the time
are referring to as memes. We didn't have pictures with

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words on them. It's usually what a meme is, right,
we're talking memes. And you go up to anybody right
now and you just take a poll, what's a meme?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Like?

Speaker 1 (11:36):
That's what they're going to describe this picture? It with
words on it. It's usually in some way pop culture
related or current events related, it's in some way definitely
societal cultural, and then that's what they'll describe to you.
But that's not actually what a meme is. That is
just a version of this broader category of what memes are.

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This is just a type of beme. Actually eighteen seventy
six that didn't exist, and that's when he coined the
term in the book The Selfish Genes. So Richard Dawkins
defines it as a unit of cultural transmission, he says,
or imitation. And he compares this to genetics. Right, genes
are also units of that get transferred from one person

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to another, right, units of data and information bundled together
and transferred on through reproduction. So he compares it to that.
But this is informational, right, So a unit of cultural
transmission or imitation, some sort of information is being transmitted.
The same thing is happening in the genes. It's just
happening a little bit more physically than in mimetic transfer.

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He considered memes to be the cultural parallel to biological genes.
Just as genes replicate and spread through a gene pool,
memes replicate and spread through a meme pool of cultural
information like ideas in people's minds. And here this AI
overview gives us a couple pretty good examples actually of
memes that aren't pictures with words on them, right, And

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so one is tunes, it says, which means music, right,
And it's true, especially like those catchy tunes that you
hear on commercials and then like twenty years later, they
haven't even played that commercial, but you still sing it
in your head. That's because it's mean. It's mimetic. It's
traveled so far and so deeply. You can carry it
long after it's dead, very easily, too, right, very easily,

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you can carry it. And interestingly, you'll notice that many
other people will recognize it. If you were to whistle
one of these tunes that you heard when you were
a child or recently in some sort of commercial application,
other people would know what you're talking about. Right, So
it's culturally significant, it's culturally effective. Ideas are also memes.

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So the idea that might pop up that then catches
and runs and you're kind of like, wow, everyone's suddenly
talking about this, Well, that's a meme. That's mimetic travel right,
it's transferring mimetically from person to person. Catchphrases can be
like this too. They don't talk about here. But it's
true that like idioms and these sorts of cultural things
are also memes, right, and sometimes you kind of have

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to like try to figure out where they even came from,
why we even say it. Sometimes they're so archaic that
the thing that it was originally referencing is no longer
even present in our culture, but we still say it,
like kick the bucket or toe the line, Like very
few people are kicking buckets or towing lines, but we
still say that. I'm talking about toe the line in

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the carrying the fishing or the boat line to go
carry it and tie it up, which is one of
the things that toe the line is said to me.
And I know there's a whole debate about that, and
we don't need to get into it. Idioms like this
catch phrases like this, or phrases like this are also means.
They last forever. They last so long that sometimes we
forget why we even say the thing. Clothing fashions are mimetic,

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So you see somebody wearing a st thing, and then
it catches on and then eventually everybody's wearing this thing.
And you'll usually notice there's lots of people who claim
to have invented it, because that's also usually true. It's
like one hundredth monkey thing. There's often multiple people inventing
the same thing, whether it's in chemistry or physics or
you know, engineering or whatever. There's like twelve people who
did it at the exact same time. It's like once

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one person doesn't, a bunch of people get it. Because
what we don't necessarily always talk about is how memetics
and memes actually transfer faster than light, faster than speech,
faster than creating a picture with words on it and
posting it on Twitter, which is, you know, something that
indicates our spiritual nature and the noetic sort of aspect

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of ourselves or the collective unconscious. So it's one of
the many things that can inform us that that is
how the world actually works. It's in science, it's all
over the place, well documented. It's not a woo woo thing.
It is actually true that tons of people will just
be trying to, for example, create this specific chemical formulation
and failing and failing and failing, and then one lab

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somewhere does it, and that same day, like six other
labs in the world will do it. They all did
it independently, so beyond mimetics perhaps, but mimetic like meme like,
actually very interesting. So clothing fashions can be like this.
And yeah, what I just was talking about is as
ways of making things like pottery or arches will also

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be mimetics. So you'll be doing it one way and
someone will come up with a different way that will
catch on. It will travel super fast, and all of
a sudden, everybody's making it in this new way. So
very cool. Mimetics. The study of memes actually arose in
the nineties. So Richard Dawkins coined this term in seventy six.

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The study of it academically arose in the nineties. I'll
say the study of it academically already existed, we just
didn't call it such. And so this is a lot
of what we're going to be noticing today. Is the
word meme and the study of mimetics new to us.
Memes seem new to us, but they're actually ancient. They've

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always existed. We just change our word for them. We
have many different words for it over the past, and
most of them are spiritual and magical. Spiritual and magical,
and then we made an academic because you see this
trend in all of the modern world. Things that were
spiritual and magical have become materialists and scientific, but some
of them are too woo woo and they won't get

(17:28):
mainstream science. But they but a lot of things like
meme is one example that has so that's what a
meme is. And one example of a meme that is
spiritual are mantras. And so it's sort of like the idioms,
sort of like the catchphrase thing. A mantra is something
that has lasted thousands of years. We don't actually even

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know the origin of many of our mantras. And I'm
not necessarily talking out the type of mantra where like
affirmation where you're saying like, oh, I'm a good person
and I believe in myself and you're saying these good
things to yourself. That's also often referred to a mantra,
and really cool. I'm talking about mantras that are like
sacred seed syllable sacred sounds. The most recognizable being old.

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Everybody recognizes, Oh, everybody knows Ohm. Some people don't even
know why they know Ohm. They're just like it's around
so much that you just will pick it up somewhere,
and you've never studied spirituality, you might know ohm. So
Ohm is one and there's many editor's, hundreds of others,
and these have existed through time, through cultures. It's a

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cultural unit of transmission, and it travels like wildfire, and
it never dies. It never dies. It's a very strong
eggregre for that reason, very strong tulpa, you might say. So.
A sacred utterance is sound, a word, a phrase often
repeated in spiritual practices like meditation or prayer to focus

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the mind and line one's energy is usually the purpose
of it. As we talked about recently in a recent
episode called Sanskrit Symatics. You may have also heard me
talking about, or maybe you've heard others talk about that.
The Sanskrit alphabet are actually almost all sacred seed syllables,
whether we call them that or not. And when you

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speak them, the simatic impression that they create material reality
is exactly the same as the drawn letter of that
sound or of that idea which blows my mind. Actually,
there is no other alphabet that's even remotely like that
on earth, super super high vibration. And so Sanskrit is

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a special, special language, the sounds of which are also special,
and the simatic creation of that language is very powerful.
If there were going to be a language I would
pay as the language of creation and magic. It would
be Sanskrit for this reason because all other language and
sound you can speak it all you want, and the
simatics which is kind of be a chaos, but you

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speak Sanskrit correctly and you create the letters as you know.
Very fascinating. But beside the point tonight. So all these mantras,
these are used to hone energy and direct it. And
as you can see with ohm, which is Sanskrit, you're
actually creating something. If you can say ohm and it
creates a cimatic impression or structure through the sound wave

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that can be perceived in material reality. That's a very
different thing from just saying a random sound. Right, You're
not just repeating sounds here. These mantras are actually doing something.
There's a technology behind them, and it's mimetic. It's traveled
through time, it's transmitted cultural and information even beyond our
conscious mind. You go say OHM to a baby and

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watch what happens. Right. People have done this and they're like,
they're like, I don't think it works, and the baby's
like fussy or whatever, and they own them and the
baby just like chills out. It just is like the
word of peace and surrender. Perhaps it's very very beautiful.
So lots of seed syllables, lots of them Sanskrit, and
lots of them have this effect, are very beautiful. And

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so this is an example of a meme. Again, you
ask most people what's a meme, They're never gonna say, oh,
Sanskrit sounds or memes like, but they are. They are memes.
They do travel and they are effective. And I'll say,
you know, the older and more practiced anything is the
higher its ability to transmit to you or through you

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something profound. And that's just because of its resonant field
or its morphic resonance, as Rupert Sheldrake talks about, it's
because of its egrigor, or it's tulpa, which are all
just ways of saying. It's because we've repeated it so
much that it's become like deeply etched into the universal fabric,
like we have created this as powerful thing. So you

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don't have to be a Buddhist or a you know,
speaker of Sanskrit or any of these things vedic practitioner
in order to use these. You can be anyone and
you can, oh, you can just chant or you can
intone the seed syllables and they'll be powerful. They carry
with them at fact so much more than we can
perceive at the conscious level. And they're very effective, so

(22:19):
very effective memes those mantras. In most mystery schools and
mystic traditions, we also have just an incredible collection of memes. Actually,
it's like the vast majority of what is transmitted is mimetic.
The vast majority of what's passed down from master to
pupil through initiatic orders and all of this stuff is

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it is mimetic, and often that comes through symbols. So
this says mystery school symbols are visual representations of esoteric
knowledge and spiritual concepts taught with an ancient and modern
mystery schools. I'll take it a step further, and I'll
say the symbols actually exist in the universe, and people
just receive them and transmit them to each other. There's

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something more universal about it even than this description is
giving it. Sort of like the seed syllables, there's something
almost unspeakable that can be transmitted in a symbol. It
can't be transmitted any other way, and it often bypasses
your logic brain and your thought box and all of
this stuff going on. It goes straight into your subconscious

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You might think that's a bad thing, but you're actually
built that way. That's the technology of your body, and
it's actually a beautiful thing. And we're very lucky that
we have this ability to receive symbolically information that we
can't even necessarily speak clearly or think clearly about what
it actually is. And you can. You can have revelation,

(23:45):
you can have enlightenment around symbols and these things, but
you're also often just receiving more than you know that
you are when you are engaging with a symbol. It's
also what you might want to stay away from darker
symbols or especially sigils or summoning work type images. I
don't mess with those, and I don't suggest people do so,

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it says. These symbols are often found in various cultures
and traditions, and they're not mere decorations, but they're used
to convey complex ideas about the universe, human existence, and
spiritual paths. They can be geometric shapes, objects, or even
figures that act as keys to unlock deeper understanding and
facilitate spiritual growth. For initiates, And I mean, we could

(24:29):
go and do twenty shows on just symbols and how
to understand them and how to read them and become
well versed in them, and that's great. It's the same
process is becoming good at taro or anything else. It's
a symbolic journey becoming good at and you know, interpreting
your own dreams is the same type of journey. It
becomes deeper and deeper as you engage with it. And

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so we could do that, but we're not. We're not
going to. We'll just talk a little bit about symbols.
They're super important. Actually, there's nothing in the world that
isn't sort of governed by the the medic transmission of symbols.
So they're perhaps one of the most powerful tools that
we have as people in a material world. So here

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it's describing how they convey esoteric knowledge, which a lot
of people misconstrue with that even means. All that means
is they convey knowledge that isn't surface level or easily
obtainable or easily discovered. It's all it means. It's just
things that are slightly more hidden, not hidden from you
by something, but just not apparent and obvious, and except

(25:35):
to the people who are choosing to pay attention and
go deeper. It's not that it's obscured intentionally, it's just
not right there, flashing in your face, like right. That's
how esoteric really is. A lot of people like attribute
something dark or nefarious to the word esoteric, and there's
no purpose to that. It doesn't make sense and it's

(25:57):
not true as there's a mystery school symbols or visual
representations of the core teachings and philosophies of mystery traditions. Yeah.
So one example is the rose cross, which I've talked
about before as a roseicrution, and so you know, you
can definitely go look into this yourself. It's not hidden knowledge,
it's not obscured from me. If you are interested in it,

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it's just right there for you. But the idea of
the cross is a symbol, one layer of it at least,
and perhaps the most profound in my opinion, is that
it just represents you. This is you are a person
head to toe here. That's sort of the you know,
vertical aspect of the cross, and then the horizontal aspect
is the way that you spread out into this world

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and act and behave and present yourself here in this
space and this physical reality. So here's your connection from
heaven to Earth. That's your central energy channel. And then
here's your unfolding into the world. This is what the
cross represents. At its core, is just a person, just you,
and the rose on that cross represents what a rose

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almost always represents, which is your blossoming. So in this
case it's specifically your emotional or spiritual especially spiritual blossoming.
It's your advancement as a soul, as a spiritual being,
and some most people you might say, is like a
little bit more of a bud than a bloom. That's cool,

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just where it people at. And then if they choose
to they notice the sun of enlightenment and they start
to open to it and they bloom. So that's what
the rose cross is. That's what Rosicrucian means. It's the
rosy cross, and that's what the rosy cross means. So
if there's a symbol that packs all this information into
it and then offers it to you, and it's easily packaged,

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it's easy to know what it means. It's easy to
understand it. Even if you weren't sort of initiated into
it or taught what it means. You could discern that
on your own because it's universal in nature. It reflects
the universe, it reflects your path, it reflects you, and
so it's there, it's accessible to all, and it transfers
through time very easily because of that. So all symbols

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are like that. That's just one example of all symbols,
and so they're not just random, they're not just you know, disconnected.
They're intimately reflecting the natural world. And that's all they do.
That's transmitted easily. It's more easy than I just told
you that and a bunch of words. I could write

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that out in like a book, all these things, but
it's much easier to just draw across with a rose
and pass it on. So they can technically get lost,
but they're not. Usually they're found again if they are,
because they are so embedded in the universe. So it
says symbolic language transcends literal meaning, requiring interpretation and understanding

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of hidden meanings. And that's true of everything. That's actually
what your process is. And listening to me or looking
at these things, or studying whatever you study, or doing
whatever practices you do is to understand yourself in the
world more deeply. That's what you're doing, that's what we're
all doing, and symbols help you do it. They are
keys to deeper meaning. It says they facilitate spiritual growth.

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It's true. Sometimes, just like ome actually carries much more
than you could consciously understand or know, so do these symbols.
And so even sometimes encountering them will unleash something in you.
I will awaken something in you. It will cause a
remembering within you. And this is again because your subconscious
mind is actually kind of keyed into symbols. They're kind

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of a magic that makes you function, and so they
kind of call you back to something that you sometimes
can't put into words, but you feel or you experience,
and that usually helps you to bloom like the rose
you are. Even more so, it gives some examples it
has sacred geometry. Sacred geometry is an example, of course,

(29:53):
a really good one. And again when we look at
sacred geometry, what we usually find are natural relationships again
and sometimes really complex ones. Sometimes natural relationships such as
you know, even the golden ratio that we then see
expressed in every living thing. We could find it anywhere,
Like all of nature is connected to this, right, So

(30:13):
you have a sacred symbol like this spiral of the
golden ratio, but it actually holds within it a key
to all of material reality, all of the universe, and
they're all like this, right. Sacred geometry is often like that.
That's why it's sacred. Right, that's why the ancient people
and Pythagoras the Master loved it and studied it and

(30:38):
venerated it, taught it, passed it on mebetically. The caduceis
we've talked about a million times on the show. It's
those two snakes that come together and there's often a
cross or there's some sort of pole, and this represents
you moving up through your chakra systems and having an
awakening at the top the snakes or your two energy channels, right,

(30:58):
and this is the kaducis. So you're transmitting it again,
all of this knowledge, all of this wisdom, and a
very simple symbol that is mimetic in nature and can
be passed on easily and transmit this culture easily. The
all seeing eye is one. It's on the dollar, it's everywhere.
The robberis This is the snake eating its own tail,
representing infinity. And again, if you never knew that and
you saw it, you could understand it might be able

(31:22):
to take you a while. Oh my gosh, they even
have the rose cross here, there you go, the tree
of life, the sphinx. All of these are examples of symbols.
But all symbols are memes. All of them are. So
this is again why I was saying. Richard Dawkins coined
the term meme in nineteen seventy six, but before that

(31:43):
we still had plenty of words that described the process
of representing pretty complex amounts of information, distilling it into
a unit, and then being able to transmit it easily.
Of course we did. We had it all throughout all
of history. We've had this. So memes are old, old magic.

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Archetypes are another example. Archetypes, of course, are the universal
recurring patterns of symbols, characters, or situations that appear across
different cultures and time periods, often representing fundamental human experiences.
So these are sort of the hero's journey aspect of
being a human. These are the developmental stages we all

(32:26):
go through again and again and again. We spiral through them.
Again and again and again. These are universal because all
people actually are the same. We all have the same experiences.
If you look through the tarot deck and the major
arcana and you see all these archetypal aspects of our
major life points and transitions and transformations, and the reason

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that it works is because we can all relate to
them because we've all experienced them. We've all experienced them
in this life, we've all experienced them in other lives.
They're very, very deeply woven. This is also why you
can look at any culture's mythology and you could pick
out the same archetypes, sometimes to a stunning degree of similarity,
making you wonder how long has the the metic transfer

(33:11):
really been going on? And other times it's just because
you can acknowledge that all people go through the same
sorts of things. These are universal patterns. So again, if
you somehow had to start from scratch and you were
like plopped down in the world and nobody had any
language or anything, and nobody remembered anything, you would recreate
all of this because all of it exists in nature

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and in you, which I repeat myself, but this is
you're both. You are nature, and so it's just there
and you're just gonna know it, You're just gonna see it,
and it's just going to come back to the same thing.
And that's why I said so many times when people
are like, oh, that's not how you do Terro, that's
not how you do energy Worker, that's not how you
do this. People are very egotistical about these things often, right,

(33:58):
I just always point out who who was the first
person to do this, and like people are they're stumped.
I'm like, oh, it's not a test. I'm just trying
to point out like at some point someone just did
it with somebody. Nobody taught them, they just did it.
So if you think there's just one way or that
someone can't spontaneously become a channel for source, then you're
a little bit crazy, you a little bit egotistical, a

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little bit stuck. Right, it's bigger than that. It's bigger
than you, and archetypes are another thing that is bigger
than us. It's universal. Someone will come back to it
even if it disappeared, So they're not specific to one
culture or individual, they're specific to everyone, common to everyone.

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The hero is a very simple example. We all have heroes,
we all have villains. We all have the mentor archetype,
the innocent, the orphan, the caregiver, the shadow. We have
all kinds of these archetypes that we can recognize. We've
been all of them. We will be them all again,
whether we know it or not, whether we acknowledge it
or not. And everyone has been. So that is another

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type of meme. It's a meme. It just traveled. It's
easy to represent, it's easy to transfer between people. It's
easier for people to recognize. You can pack a whole
lot into archetype without writing a novel or having an
epic song. Right. So that's another aspect of memes is
they're easy. They're easy. We even had memes again, before

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we had the Internet, before Richard Dawkins coined the term meme,
we had old school memes. This is like a nineteen
twenties meme, and I'm talking about the type where people
will call it again. If you went out on the
street you asked what a meme is, they'd be like
pictures with words on it. Well, here you go, here's
a picture where the word. But here's a meme that
maybe isn't that successful because I don't know what it means,

(35:51):
so it hasn't transmitted culturally effectively enough for me to
being able to look at it and understand what's happening.
It does say the sad lot of Kendrick. I don't
know why. It looks like a spy versus spy guy
made of a coiling spring, obviously meant to be goofy.
He's got a top hat, he's wide eyed, so he

(36:14):
might be meant to seem stupid. And that's what I
can get from the memes. So we can still get
some information even not having been there. But do we
even have memes from nineteen twenty? We also, you know,
it's a cartoon. It's a pencil sort of cartoon with
a caption under it. And that's another older type of meme,

(36:35):
that single frame, a single sort of cartoon that we
would see in like an editorial now or in a
magazine and newspaper. That's an old school type of meme. Again,
something you can transmit easily. This says, look here, old man,
why can't you and your wife come out and spend
the weekend with us? And it's some again top hat

(36:58):
people talking in the street says, we'll be glad to
if you'll promise not to show us the chickens or
make us carry home a lot of vegetables. Look at
the propaganda and that. So again, this is culturally transmissible
units of information. In this case and in many cases
in the modern world and the ancient world, this is

(37:20):
being used to create a certain outcome. You're meant to
read this and feel bad, ashamed if you have chickens
and vegetables and you try to share them with people.
This is the old way. We don't want you to
do that. We want you to buy things in a store.
We want you to live in a city. So you
and your chickens, your vegetables like, be gone with you.

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This is a shame, a shaming of people. So we
already had this mametic warfare going on in nineteen twenty one.
And I call it warfare because it is attacking a
specific segment of society. It is specifically a group of
people who have more power, who are intentionally trying to
craft type of culture, type of society they want. You

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could call it a conspiracy if you want. It's not
a huge one, it's not a super malicious one. But
people had to conspire to pull it off and they
had a very specific outcome in mind, and they knew
how to try to accomplish it. We started seeing this
as soon as you could share pictures and words with people,
So in newspapers and magazines we had memes. We had memes,

(38:26):
so we could go through a lot of these, but
they're all sort of the same. You know. They're often
coming from the lower classes up. So it's the not
very powerful people who are trying to make each other
aware of something or share an idea of what might
work better, And that's what we see a lot of.
But we also see this type of stuff right from
the upper classes down that are like, shame on you

(38:48):
for having chickens and vegetables. How long has that been
going on? We saw a lot of that in the
last five years as well. So old memes older than
the Internet, older than the word meme, going back as
far as we can tell, with sounds, with mantras, with
all kinds of symbols, every kind of symbol, and all

(39:10):
of these publications as well, all of them had memes.
So this is actually a reddit, a sub thread or
a thread called reddit, a subreddit called proto memes. Proto
memes memes before memes, right, proto memes, and actually everything
we've talked about could be called proto memes or memes

(39:32):
before we had the word memes, proto memes, and so
you know, I don't know if they include everything we're
talking about, if they're just doing more examples like this,
but probably a very interesting subreddit if you're into it.
Another example of that sort of pressuring the use of
memes as a form of again, we'll call it warfare,
you can call it whatever you want, but it aiming

(39:52):
to curb people's choices, curb their culture, the way that
they express themselves, what they choose to do would not do.
Another of these is an open propaganda campaign for jaywalking
and the term jaywalking, which we all know, Like how
effective that meme was. We still know this word us
the one Why do we call it jaywalking? Ninety eight

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percent of people aren't gonna know you're talking. They're gonna
be like, I don't know, we just do it's jaywalking, okay,
but why do we call why is it jay? Who's jay?
Why is you walking? Well? This was a campaign back
in the day, so it's the term jaywalking and the
concept behind it were popularized in the nineteen twenties as
part of a propaganda campaign by the automobile industry. So

(40:36):
the government and the automobile industry are again, this is
a conspiracy. People like think conspiracy has to be some
sort of like evil thing. It's just conspiring. Just means
you get together to accomplish a thing, sometimes surreptitiously. So
this is a conspiracy, it's propaganda. This campaign aimed to
shift blame for traffic accidents from drivers to pedestrians and

(40:59):
to reash public opinion in favor of automobiles. So back
in the day, you've got horses, you've got buggies, you've
got whatever. You've got streets, but they're mostly for people.
People are walking around. Most people are walking. Some people
are riding a horse. Every once in a while, we've
got a horse drawn carriage. Right, Most people aren't rich

(41:19):
enough to have a horse drong carriage. So they're walking
or they're riding their horse or whatever, and the street
is just filled with people. I mean it's not like
filled all the time with people, but way more than
we would expect. We're very antisocial these days compared to
how people used to be. You'd be on the street,
you'd be talking to your neighbor, you'd be calling across
the street, you'd be walking back and forth, you'd be

(41:39):
kids playing and throwing balls and whatever. The streets were crowded,
so when cars came out, lots of people got hit
as people were used to being in the streets. But
now we've got this much faster, much more powerful, giant
contraption of metal and gas just flying around, and so

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people were getting hurt, getting injured, dying left and right.
It was a problem, but that was people's culture. The
culture was you hang out in the street. So people
weren't going to get out of the street. There weren't
that many cars, and so, you know, it just wasn't
a thing that caught on. So this jaywalking campaign was
created to shame people who went in the street. So

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it's not just crossing now it's like crossing not at
a crosswalk, But back then it was just being in
the street at all for any reason, you're a jaywalker.
It was initially an offensive slur, but it was effectively
used to stigmatize pedestrians who crossed the street outside of
designated crosswalks. It was actually just at all anybody in
the street. Now it's outside of designated crosswalks, as I said,

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And so that's what it was. It shifted blame, it
created shame, and it worked and now nobody goes in
the street. It's been a long time. So the people
went in the street, and that's what jaywalking is. So
this meme was so effective. I mean, they had various
different pictures with words on them or like types of
media that they shared to transmit this unit of cultural information,

(43:08):
just what a meme is, and it worked changed the culture,
and it changed it so effectively we still say it
one hundred years later, and we don't even know why.
We don't even know the term Jay was the dumb
guy who they made fun of, like, oh, it's just
j Jay's just walking around. God damn Jay, you jay walker.

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That's what it was. So very effective. Propaganda memes practically
the same thing. Might as well call them the same thing.
You're transmitting cultural information. They also have this other thing
that's growing through subreddits and this sort of internet culture
where they're calling this meme creation, the use of memes,

(43:54):
the transmission of memes. They're calling it becoming a tulpa
mancer like a necromancer. But toulpa manser in Au. Tulpa
is another form of meme in a way. It's a
very different form though. A tulpa is usually when a
student of mysticism or the occult uses their mind to
create a physical, living being. And whether you believe that's

(44:18):
possible or not, that's what a lot of people believe
is possible, and that's what a toulpa actually was, and
it was one of the most dangerous forms of advancement
on the spiritual path or magic, because if it gets
away from you and it's running a muck, you have
to know also how to destroy a toulpa, which is
actually just destroying a part of your own mind. So

(44:40):
it's interesting, and it's interesting if you want to bring
it into psychological terms, which is what a lot of
modern people do with tulpa. You could think of it
as an aspect of yourself that is seemingly has some
sort of power over you. And so people with addictions
might feel like that, right, there's this part of me
that just like has to go gamble, and I can't
control it, and what do I do? And it's hard

(45:03):
to it's hard to identify as part of yourself and
kill it. Right, it's hard to change yourself and so
similar to that struggle, right, And so people look at
Toulpa's in this way and more and more now as
a psychological thing, as a something that you created, maybe
not even intentionally, and that could get away from you
and could maybe even overpower you, but at least exists

(45:26):
mostly independently from you once you're done creating it. And
it is actually interesting that memes are like that. You
can create a meme, you can even do it accidentally,
and it can transform the world and you've got no
control over it after that. So this happens to people
sometimes really sadly. You know, you feel bad for them.

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They'll do something and it will be caught on camera,
will be on TikTok or something, and then just everyone
knows about it and it's embarrassing and there's nothing they
can do. It's there forever. And so this is sort
of topal like, right, And it's also emetic. It's also
a meme, and it also happened in good ways. There's
just people go viral and you know, they become a

(46:08):
meme and goes on forever and it's kind of cool
and you catch up with him twenty minute years later.
It's like the baby who like had his fist like
this and everybody used it for a meme for so
long and now he's like an adult because that's how
long it's been we've been using this meme. So you know,
Tulpa meme similar could be good, could be bad. It
is transmitting and it is effective, and it is carrying

(46:30):
information with it, and everybody knows what it is, even
if it's not explained, right, and that's the point of
the meme, right, you have those That's why those memes
go viral. That's why those videos go viral, because everybody
knows what's funny about it. Everybody knows what's shameful about it.
Everybody knows what's awesome about it, unique about it, unlikely
about it. Everybody knows without having to say it. And

(46:52):
once you have to say it, you kind of might
stumble for words and be like, well, it's like it's
like it's funny or it's just shameful us just right,
like everyone knows. I don't know, because again it's this
is like on a subconscious level, and that's why it
can transmit so easily and so quickly. It's archetypal, it's symbolic.
It carries more information than you could ever try to
pack into it on purpose. Right, So the best memes

(47:13):
are accidental, Actually they're accidental, and there's something that is
highly relatable. Even if we don't necessarily see ourselves in it,
we still relate to it. Right. So this person talks
about this, and I didn't know this was a subculture
of talking about tulpa mancing or using memes in the
metic sort of warfare creation until today, And I kind

(47:36):
of love it. This is what I kind of love
about the Internet. It can create so much garbage and
it can create really interesting experiments. So they're also making
memes about tulpa's and about memes and tolpa creation, which
is very meta, very cool. So anyways, this article is

(48:05):
interesting if you ever want to check it out. It's
called everyone is a Topo mancer Go. It's very irreverent,
not necessarily agreeing with everything this person says. I just
find it fascinating. So simple stories and rituals are all
forms of memes in a way. And rituals, yes, are
also mimetic and also transfer a huge amount of information

(48:25):
without anyone having to really explain in detail all the
different aspects of what's being transmitted. It just works. So
rituals actually, maybe again one of the most powerful types
of memes, and all of them are powerful containers for
transformative consciousness. So again, like I was saying earlier, like
you can receive all this information, can bypass all of

(48:46):
the logic within you and go straight into your subconscious
and cause you to have an internal experience of self
or a nosis or a revelation or an enlightening moment,
and that can transform. So they're transformative at best, and
inner transformation is great. They're also again effective at transmitting

(49:08):
from person to person. So you could go have a ritual,
for example, going to church. You can go and have
the communion, right, you can go for the first time ever,
you don't know anything about it, and everyone there is
walking up in a line and taking their turn and

(49:28):
kneeling down and being blessed and being given the body
of Christ, the blood of Christ, and this very reverent.
And then everybody goes back and sits down and you
don't know for sure what just happened, but you can
feel what it is to you. You can feel sometimes good,
sometimes bad, depending on who you are right, that might
terrify you, but you get that something is profound. You

(49:49):
may understand even more deeply than that than that it's
just profound, or that it's community, or that it's connection,
or that it's a chain of the same event happened
over and over for thousands of years that connects you
to the past. You might actually have some sort of
divine inspiration or revelation as well, because that's the power
of a ritual. It is again, it's almost enigmatic in

(50:15):
its tulpa like or agrigor like that repetition right over
and over, over and over, morphic resonance. We've done this
a million times. So even if you don't consciously understand why,
you can be deeply moved by these things, and it
can be very transformative and it can transform culture, can
transform people, can transform others through you. Even if you're

(50:36):
not quite sure what it is and you can't say
it to somebody exactly, you might just be different and
people might just get that from you and like, oh,
there's something else, or there's something more, there's something mature,
there's some sort of light here, right and they don't
even know either. There doesn't have to be words, and
that's why memes are so effective, and that's why rituals
are one of the best memes. So so again, stories

(51:02):
are the same too, and stories will have the same story.
We have only so many stories, but we will tell
them again and again and again and again. You'll go
watch any show and you've heard this story a million times,
and you'll still love it, and you'll still want more, right,
because it's you. You're looking at yourself and you're like, yeah,
it is like that. Yeah it was like that. Yeah

(51:23):
I felt that too, right, Or sometimes it's I want
to be like that and I want to do that
next time and I want to be better, or sometimes
it's like, oh, I want to not make that mistake anymore. Right.
Stories are also very effective memetic, very effective information transfer
culturally across time and space easily, but they have a
lot more words. They're not quite as mimetic in that

(51:43):
way right where they're condensing a lot into a little
but a little bit, they're very similar, so they're all
sort of mimetic topic agragoric transmissions across time. And so
of course they've been weaponized and I mean this very
very very literally and very specifically by the military, And

(52:04):
I'm not mad about it. I'm not even mad about it.
I don't think you should be either, because even before
they called it memetic warfare and had it as an
open part of the military, it was used that way.
We already had this. Psychological operations were already a thing
before meme was coined as a term, and before mimetic

(52:25):
warfare was a specific goal of the US military. And
by the way, that's that means every military. Also, there's
no military that's not doing this, or if there is,
they're not a very good military. So yeah, so I say,
I'm not mad, but it's going to happen either way. Right,
That's what militaries do. Whether you love them, hate them,
or feel neutral about them, that's their job. And so

(52:46):
they're all going to do it. They've all been doing
it before it was a word. That's what we call
psychological operations. Much of it is mimetic. Much of it
is how do we transmit this information easily and so
effectively that it never dies, that this idea never dies,
and that it keeps people acting in a certain way.
So I remember talking to a military recruiter because I

(53:10):
was mentoring a young man who wanted to join the military,
and so I supported him in doing that. And the
recruitment officer while he was in taking a test, we
were just sort of chatting and I was saying something
about something that had happened recently. Sorry, I can't remember what,
but I was saying something about like, oh, I don't know,
is that a SIOP? Because I was like, I have
this military guy here, I'm gonna ask him, right, and

(53:32):
he's like, I can't over state that everything is a SiO.
He's like, and the way he put it is, he's like,
ninety percent of the military is SCIOs, whether they call
it that or not, that's what it is. He's like,
the commercials we put out to get recruits, the things
that we're taught to say and do, the uniforms we wear,

(53:54):
the way that we are in this role, the you know,
all of it is psychological operation. All of it is
meant to evoke a very specific pattern of behavior and
thinking and being. And I thought about it and I
kind of was like, Wow, he's like admitting this. But
then I thought about it and I was like, but actually,
we could say this about everything. There isn't anything that

(54:16):
isn't a si off, and so SIOP just means psychological operation,
which really just means that you're trying to affect the
way someone thinks, and whether it's yourself or another person,
that is actually all you're ever doing. So I'm not
necessarily talking about manipulation, something we would talk like call

(54:37):
manipulation or being deceitful. But even if you go up
to someone and you're like, I love you, and you
hug them, you want them to know a thing, You're
trying to transmit information to them, that's psychological. That's a SIAH.
So I'm not saying everything's a SIOP and that everything
is untrue, where everything's meant to manipulate you or change
you or do something nefarious. I'm saying we're psychological beings

(54:59):
and everything we do is psychological. It's like, there's nothing
we're doing that isn't so He's right, it's all it's
all asia, and so is everything else. This is not
actually that nefarious. But when you know that, you're empowered,
When you understand all the things we've been talking about tonight,
you're empowered and you become just as much of a

(55:20):
psychological operator as anybody else. So just like anything else,
in life, the more you understand something and have mastered
it within yourself, the easier it is to exist in
the world without failing to notice something being taken. An
advantage of lied to, et cetera. As you're empowered, you're
more protected the more you know, right, so A Medics

(55:42):
says as a growth industry in US military operations, this
is the United States government's own mill website, military website
DTIC dot mill Department of Technical Information Center that depart
what oh sorry, Defense Technical Information Center DTIC. They talk

(56:05):
about just openly what they have to do to use
me more for it. And they also call it psychological operations.
Like I said, that's not something I'm just making up.
Like they understand that too. So it says tomorrow, this
is an abstract of a study is presented so the
US military can get with the times of tomorrow. It
says tomorrow, US military must approach war fighting with an

(56:28):
alternate mindset that is prepared to leverage all elements of
national power to influence the ideological spheres of future enemies
by engaging them with alternate means means to gain advantage.
Defining memes, memes or units of cultural transmission or a
unit of imitation, and his ideas become means to attack ideologies.
So they're specifically talking about attacking ideologies changing the way

(56:50):
people think and their ideas about how the world should be,
how society should be, how government should be, how their
culture should be. It says, meme warfare enters into the
hotly contested battlefields inside the minds of our enemies and
particularly inside the minds of the undecided. So and they're
not wrong. If you're very strong in your conviction, people

(57:11):
can't hypnotize you, they can't, you know, use subliminal messaging
to change you. They can't meme warfare you out of
your opinion. It's the people who are able to be
swayed that they're after. And that's actually most people, I
don't know if you know this. And most people aren't
very strong in what they believe or understand or they're convictions.
So it's a lot of people that they are psyopping

(57:33):
in order to change their ideologies in the world. You know,
and we could say, whatever you may perceive to be
your potential enemies in the world, they're using me more
fair against you, for sure, whether you know it or not.
That's happening. It can happen through your news and media.
It can happen through podcasts like this that you think

(57:55):
are just a person in a room or whatever. And
you know, it can happen through all types of media,
all types of access. They have to symbolically, like we
heard songs, write stories. All of these things can be
used in this way. But most of the time it's
going to be what we traditionally think of as memes,
which are the pictures with the words on them on

(58:15):
the internet. Right, That's it because they know that's what
most people are looking at. So they're using all the ways,
but those are one of the ways. It says memes
can and should be used like medicine to inoculate the
enemy and generate popular support. I mean, they're literally talking
about if they go into a country to destabilize the

(58:37):
government or the leading coalition or whatever it is, they're
going to use memes to try to convince people to
not go that way and to be with them instead,
or to be with whoever it is they're propping up.
It's just what the military does, so very very interesting.
We also have this really really in depth. This is

(58:58):
from twenty eleven, actually that is from doctor Robert Finkelstein's
You may have heard of him before. He's often quoted
and talked about as sort of the modern father of
military momeetics. And that's because they hired him to do
a four year study on memes and meme warfare and

(59:18):
mean transmission and effectiveness of memes, et cetera, and to
present it. And so this is his presentation. Again, it's
not hidden, it's not a secret. Anyone can find this.
It's just an open thing that is shared with us.
It's our government's work for four years. Then maybe other
things about this that are hidden, but this is what

(59:39):
we can know. And so he worked with DARPA Defense
Advanced Research Projects. DARPA is the sort of technological subcontract
or contracted by the military to do like robotics and
drones and all sorts of creepy things, and so of
course they're involved with this, but check out this image.
They're not usually shy about what it is they're doing

(01:00:03):
or trying to do. And this is an actual image
from the actual presentation, which is a pretty nefarious looking
wizard that takes up all of space and time and
is holding the Earth in his hands and looking at it,
like what am I going to do with this? Right?
What can I do with this? He doesn't have a happy, calm,

(01:00:25):
peaceful vibe or look so minetically. We can infer that
they want to be as God and be able to
look at the world and control it as though it
could sit in the palm of their hands. They're not
shy about this either, like complete and total domination and
control of all levels of being air space, land, see,

(01:00:49):
you know that's their goal as a military, that's every
military's goal as a military. Again, or they're not very
good at being a military, which I'm not saying is
good or bad or neutral. I'm saying that's a military's job. Unfortunately,
that's true, So not shy trying to be God working
with Dharpa using memes against you, for sure doesn't matter.

(01:01:14):
Right left center, where you are, you're being memed at.
You're being attempted to be swayed into thinking things you
didn't already think, believing things you didn't already believe, and
often again just like jaywalking, being shamed or cajoled or
pushed into behaving differently. And again, wherever you stand on

(01:01:36):
the spectrum doesn't matter. If you loved COVID or hated COVID,
or loved the lockdowns or hated lockdowns, or loved MASS
or hated mass. You at least have to acknowledge that
there was a moment where no one I've ever met
had ever said the term social distancing, and literally within
three days, every single person I've ever known knew exactly
what it was and what it meant and used it
as a term. That's crazy. So in the nineteen twenties

(01:02:00):
to quite a long time to get people to not jaywalk.
In twenty twenty five, it takes three days to get
one hundred percent of people to actively talk about use
a term correctly, and act in accordance with an unspoken
directive perfectly. And I'm not saying everyone did like it

(01:02:24):
or do it, but they knew what it meant and
they knew what they were supposed to do. You can't
deny that, No, I don't, No matter where you fall
on this line, that happened. So that's a really easy
recent example of what meme warfare can do to a population.
Good batter neutral. So this is a one hundred and

(01:02:47):
fifty two page presentation that we're quite obviously not going
to go through at all, but really interesting. They already
within the first they're around page seven and they're talking
about using They talk about e memes as in electronic
memes like working between people, social media tools, texts, you

(01:03:09):
know whatever. And then they talk about imemes. They said,
I memes can be studied using tools and techniques such
as functional magnetic resonance imaging, neuroimaging, genetic profiling, psychopharmacological manipulations.
They're talking about mind control and behavior control of a

(01:03:29):
scientific materialist nature of being able to affect your brain
waves and therefore affect how you think and feel an act.
This is no accident. Again, like I said, this is
twenty eleven, and lots of military documents talk about controlling
people how they think and how they act through electromagnetic

(01:03:51):
methods from AFAR. So a lot of people think that's
some sort of conspiracy theory. There's no theory about it.
It is a fact, and they are open about what
they want to do with it. Whether or not you
think they have and are using this technology is the
only real question. But whether or not they have talked
about it, designed it, understand how it works, and want
to use it is not a question. So that's there. So, yeah,

(01:04:16):
lots of weird, creepy again, quite nefarious, often attempts to
control you and your thoughts and what you think, believe in,
how you act, what you do, how society is cultural
engineering at its finest, on and on and on. So

(01:04:37):
one hundred and fifty two pages not going to go
into it. But if you want to find it, you
could search for the Military Memetics presentation by doctor Robert
Finkelstein and you will find it not hard to find.
So she's a quote from doctor Finkelstein his role in DARPA.
In that study in twenty eleven, he said guns and

(01:04:58):
bombs are replaced by rumor, digital fakery, and social engineering.
And he's not wrong. So we've talked about fifth generation warfare,
nonlinear warfare. This is it. This is the crux of it.
There's a million different ways and means and tie you know,
like tactics and all of this. But it's no longer
let's meet and shoot each other, let's drop bombs, although

(01:05:20):
that still happens. The real war is in the mind.
It's psychological operation, and it is affected by rumor, digital fakery,
and social engineering. And you know, a lot of people
send me videos that are fake, that are AI. If
you're not looking at things and instantly asking yourself is
this AI? Is this fake? You're probably doing yourself a disservice.

(01:05:42):
Our discernment has to get higher and higher in this place,
in this age and this time, because we're just going
to see more and more fake things, and they can
be of no consequence and be fake, and they can
be of great consequence and be fake. You know, this
Hunter Biden interview came out in my first question, I
was like, is this even real? Because it can look
that real, it can be that convincing and it never

(01:06:05):
even happened sp I really don't know, and you really
don't know. I actually think it is real. But you know,
you have to ask yourself these things or you're going
to fall behind in this time. And so fingal Steen
is right, that's been replaced guns and bombs have been
replaced by the social engineering, this mimetic social engineering and warfare.
It's an ancient, ancient practice and it's been brought into

(01:06:25):
this modern age in a way that is so effective that,
like I said, three days, whole nation, three hundred and
fifty million people right in step, right on time too easy,
So I determined has to go way up right, if
it's that easy. Another researcher of memes and the medics
and meme war affairs Prosser, and he says, combat inside

(01:06:51):
the mind of the enemy. That's where combat is now,
inside the mind of the enemy. It's also inside the
buying of your ally's and they know that too, And
like we talked about, you know, this is why the
military structure of the way it is, this is why
they have their recruitment videos the way they do. So
this is all intentional too. This is the same thing,

(01:07:13):
but not quite combat, right, But it's inside the mind
of your allies. So maybe maybe you say, influence inside
the mind of your allies, combat inside the mind of
the enemy. Make it confusing, give them the wrong impression,
lead them away from the truth, prop them up to
think the thing you want them to think, to come
to the conclusion you want them to come. To train

(01:07:34):
them into the behavior that serves you. That's the modern
war for that's mimetics in the modern world. Another aspect
of this mamtic warfare is used, and this was an
analysis of Russia's information campaign against Ukraine in twenty fifteen
in an election that was in Ukraine just prior to that,

(01:07:55):
apparently twenty fourteen, twenty thirteen maybe, And it was very
obvious to NATO at least who did this study that
Russia had intentionally done this information campaign against Ukraine in
order to create a certain outcome in their election. Is
that true? Probably? And what they're not telling you is

(01:08:19):
all the other people who also were doing information warfare
me medic warfare inside of Ukraine to affect an outcome.
So you know, they're focusing on Russia because Russia is
their enemy, so they want to expose what Russia is doing.
But they're not saying what they did. They're not saying
what the US did, They're not saying what China did.
But everyone did something. There's nowhere that these big superpowers

(01:08:41):
aren't actively pursuing mean warfare and this fifth generation warfare,
this nonlinear warfare. There's nowhere. So it's not a question
like did Russia. Of course they did, But why do
you only care about Russia? So I'm just saying, right,
as a thinker, whoever you like or whoever you don't like,
you have to know they're all doing it. Don't delude

(01:09:03):
yourself into thinking that there's some faction here that you
can be like safe with and they're somehow morally or
ethically superior. No, that's not true. Everybody's doing it. There's
a question of whether you like their manipulations or not.
That's the real question you're gonna be asking yourself if
you're trying to figure out who to trust. So, yeah,
of course Russia did. But what's interesting is they go

(01:09:25):
into how Russia did, and so they're actually exposing their
own tactics because they're doing them too. So what we're
doing is we're seeing exactly how these things work. And
we already know social media algorithms, what you see and
what you don't see, right, what you're allowed to see,
and what you're not gonna see, what you've seen ten
million times because they're really trying to pound it in,

(01:09:47):
and what you've never seen before, even though it seems
like I kind of would have wanted to know about that,
but I never saw it. And you could be in
a network in your social media and eighty percent of
people could be talking about something. But if they don't
want you to think that you won't see it, you
can go actively looking for it. And you might see it,

(01:10:10):
but it's not going to pop up in your feet.
Why do you think they went from the time when
it was so easy and you could log into any
of your social media and you could just go through linearly,
all through time order until you reach the Oh yep,
I saw this before, and so now I know I've
seen everything new. You could never do that. Now you
have no idea, you don't even know. So what you're

(01:10:31):
seeing is very, very orchestrated. And that's another thing to
know about meme. More affair about this ancient magic and
this ancient tradition that's actually being used against you in
a modern way, is that it's that easy. Just an
algorithm is enough. They can just suppress certain keywords, certain
key terms, certain images, certain people who are problems. You

(01:10:52):
may have noticed this before. If you follow anyone who's controversial,
all of a sudden you don't see their posts ever again,
did they actually disappear, No, they just stop showing you
their posts. Are they still making posts, Yes, you just
don't see them. You don't even see comments all the
time anymore. So it's another thing. You're like, well, at
least I found the post I can see, But you

(01:11:14):
have to go actively say show me all comments, and
even then you don't know that you're seeing all of them,
you're still seeing what they want you to see. It
is that controlled, they say, so, it's not a secret.
They even identify how the enemy does that as well.
Who has access to these platforms? You could say, oh,

(01:11:34):
Elon musco On's Twitter and so he does. Who else does?
DARPA does, Russia probably does, China probably does, the US
government definitely does. So who has access to your algorithms,
that's really up in the air. It's very very highly
up in the air. Who has access to them at
any given time. So this is another layer of the

(01:11:56):
warfare that is going on for your mind. And so
you know, if you're like me, you very intentionally craft
your online experience. You very intentionally go looking for the
things you want to see, and you don't just scroll
because if you're just scrolling, you're being manipulated in some way.
And sometimes it's cool, I mean, like sometimes you're getting

(01:12:16):
what you want you've trained your algorithm to give you.
In my example, if I go on to reels, it's
going to give me a bunch of animal videos. It's
going to be chicken videos and animals and nice people
doing nice things and really happy stuff and it's awesome, right,
But if you're just going through your regular feed, if
I'm going through my feed, it's giving me a lot

(01:12:37):
of some of that. And then also the propaganda aimed
at people who they think like animals and nice people
and things. Right, So you're still being conformed, but you
can choose to just go to this person's profile, that
person's profile, this news site, that place, right, and then
now you know you're getting at least what you want

(01:12:57):
instead of just whatever they want you to see. So
they go into that, they go into bought farms, right,
the paid people who are sent to comment comment, comment,
and make it look like everyone agrees with something, when
really it's just literally a room of people in India
who are given a bunch of just pre made texts
to just go and post on everywhere they can find.

(01:13:19):
And their sock puppet accounts, they call them, so they're
it's not really them. It's just an account they made
up with a fake name and a fake picture, and
they just make it seem like they might even engage
with you and argue with you on this topic, especially
if you're ever in a political or sort of societal
and you know, thread conversation and now actual bots right

(01:13:41):
for a long time, also actual bots, So just AI
just not even a person, just a fake account from
a machine that is also meant to make you think
that people think a certain way, that might also respond
to you directly and engage with you, and isn't even
a person. And people don't generally know. And when they

(01:14:04):
find out that that is happening, or that it happens,
it's usually in this context of oh Russia does that? Okay,
Well your government does it too. Wherever you are in
the world, your government's doing it too, not just Russia.
So is it evil? Well, if you're going to say
it's evil, then you at least have to be consistent
and say it's evil for all governments all the time. Right.

(01:14:28):
I don't even know that I would call it evil.
I'd say it's nefarious. It's definitely divisive and dark, it's
definitely dishonest. And if it were at least leveraged in
a way that made people feel good about themselves and
connect to themselves and the earth and each other more,
I would then like it. Right, So is it evil?

(01:14:49):
To actually do it, not necessarily. The way it's being
used though, is a type of warfare, is a type
of mind control, and it is definitely being leveraged against
you and not for your best interests all the time.
And so yeah, pretty dark, pretty dark, the metic warfare,
pretty dark. Taiwan famously employed the humor over rumor option

(01:15:10):
and strategy to combat disinformation, particularly during the COVID nineteen
pandemic and in response to Chinese influence campaigns. So again
they point out, China is the bad guy. They were
trying to influence Taiwanese people during COVID to think a
certain thing, But Taiwan's the good guy for using those
exact same methods to make their population think something else. Yeah,

(01:15:32):
it really isn't. If you're Chinese, you probably think the
Taiwanese are awful and China's great, and what China did
was great and what Taiwan did was bad. Right, So
it's a matter of perspective for sure. And the humor
over rumor attempt really was the same as the jaywalking
type thing. It was like meant to shame people. They
use their siba enu mascots and adorable things and likable

(01:15:54):
things to try to push people or sometimes shame people
into doing what they wanted, building effective unities, they call it.
And so they used a lot of memes in that,
a lot of a lot of the Internet type of memes,
the image type of memes as well. So again they
promote this as like a yeah, we saved you all.

(01:16:14):
We brought the right information, the truth in you know,
and maybe they did. It is always interesting too. It
is both true and unfortunate that the lower your IQ
or logic logical ability to think and reason, the lower

(01:16:36):
those skills are, those attributes are the more likely these
things are to work. So, like I said, if you're
under stated, undecided, unsure, don't have strong convictions that they're
also more likely to work. Those are more likely to
be true for people who are naive or undeveloped or
lower in ability or IQ or reasoning skills. So it's

(01:17:02):
also kind of a question of abuse, right and proper
use of your power. You're leveraging against people who never
really had a chance to see through it or to
overcome it, or to make their own choice. So immoral
unethical Again, if you're being if it was used to
like help people, if you're using means to sort of

(01:17:23):
teach people who have really low reasoning faculties to how
to remember to brush their teeth every night or something
like that's cool, that's right, we could agree that's positive.
So again this is like a where and how and
to what degree matters? Right, It's nuanced. So we talked

(01:17:44):
about the algorithm and control. We have this like broken
down to again, it's a syop, it's a psychological operation,
it's mind control. So they definitely have it broken down
to what are the main buttons? Right, what are the
main buttons that control people? Facebook famous did their research
on people and they manipulated people. This was admitted around

(01:18:08):
twenty fourteen, but who knows how often it is still
done or was done before then. But in twenty fourteen
we found out Facebook would intentionally try to make you angry,
try to make you sad, try to make you happy,
and to see how easily controllable you are, to see
what it is that gets you into these different states.

(01:18:30):
They're measuring your eyes and how they flicker and how
they move. They're measuring your heat, They're measuring your facial
you know, shapes like ah, I'm happy, You're like oh,
I'm sad. So they were looking at all of that
through your camera, through your biometric data, through your sensors
on your phone. And again, if you tell people that,
they'll think you're crazy, or that's a conspiracy theory, or

(01:18:51):
this is some sort of wild thing. It's wild, but
it happened and it's not a secret, and you can
go find it yourself. And so here's some of the
things that they know are the most effective to get
people to do certain things. And it's the emotions of anger,
the sense of belonging. If you feel like you belong
to a group, then you're more likely to do what

(01:19:13):
that group is supposedly supposed to do or think or be.
If you fear something, you're more controllable. If it gives
you the opportunity to distinguish yourself, you're more controllable. If
you're very, very hungry, which also might be just better
to said as like desirous, right lustful, If you're feeling
very caring or like you get to be the caretaker

(01:19:34):
or even be cared for if you get the approval
of others. And for some people, it really is just
obeying authority. It's that simple. If they just present as
though the authority says you should do this, then you're
going to do it. So these are some of the
primary buttons, they call them, for getting people to do things,
for manipulating people, mimetically, be a sy op, especially in

(01:19:59):
the modern world online, and be a mimetic warfare. So
pretty interesting. They have this all mapped out. But again,
this is an ancient thing. Those are very modern applications,
very modern culture, modern society ways that this is being used.
But this is so ancient that Manly Pee call called it.
Manly p Hall called it the secret teaching of all ages.

(01:20:20):
I feel like all ages, this is actually the secret.
This is what's underneath. This is the occult, and this
is the esoteric, not because it's hidden from you necessarily,
but because most people aren't paying attention to the technology
of your mind, soul, heart, and body, and to how
others who know how you operate will use that against you.
I thowt they will transmit cultural packets of information in

(01:20:43):
the ways that are most likely to change your behavior
and your thoughts. But esoterically and cluli, we call it magic,
we call it symbolism, we call it ritual, we call
it archetypes. Right, they're all mimetic, they're all meant to
influence you. They're actually just like any tool. They're neutral.
You can use them for good, you can use them

(01:21:05):
for bad. They don't have a good or bad They
just are. Symbols just are. Some of them have good effects,
some of them have bad effects. Memes just are. Some
of them have good effects, some of them have bad effects.
As we said, knowledge is the power actually knowing how
you work, knowing how your mind works, knowing how the
world works, knowing how symbols work. Knowing how all of

(01:21:28):
this works. You can then choose what you believe, choose
to understand things more deeply, choose how you use perhaps
memes or symbols in order to invite others into more
positive ways of thinking and being in the world, and
you're more empowered. Right, So that's why we learn about

(01:21:49):
any of this stuff, and so we can be better
at life, better at helping one another step up out
of being controlled and overcome by them in the medical warfare,
and maybe even being participand in our own side of
the meme warfare. Right, When I put out stuff, it's
very positive. When I share symbols with people, it's meant

(01:22:09):
to empower them. When I put things on my social media,
it's meant to enlighten. I'm very intentional about what I
craft and how I put it out there, how I
share it, And my hope is that it does what
memes do and it travels very far in very positive
ways because I'm empowered to do that. Right, So hopefully
you are empowered to do that and you choose to

(01:22:31):
move into the field of memetic engineering, right, not officially,
but just that you think about, like how do I talk,
how do I speak? How do I present myself? And
how do I share this? And what are the effective
ways of sharing things? And how do I get people
to reflect and think about themselves? And how do I
get people to see through the nefarious ways that these

(01:22:51):
tulpa ag gragoric mimetic types of information warfare being used
against them? Right? How do I help free people from this?
So many? P Hall also said symbolism is the language
of the mysteries. By symbols, men have ever sought to
communicate to each other those thoughts which transcend the limitations

(01:23:12):
of language. And what I love is there's places you'll
go in the world if you've traveled a bit, and
there's places where people are quite oppressed. I'm not allowed
to say or publish or write or share information sometimes
that they're ruling class or party or government says not
to share, right, not to talk about. And if you're

(01:23:34):
in those places, you will notice there are symbols everywhere
of like the we'll call it the resistance for lack
of a better term, right, the people who aren't giving up,
the people who are still trying to show each other
like we're here and we're not done with this, and
here's a new idea to transmit to each other and
let's keep going. And it's beautiful, it's cho cool. So again,

(01:23:56):
even if you're not initiated into it, you don't give
it in a set of symbols to go run with, right,
you'll find them and you'll be able to use them,
and no one could ever actually take it away from you.
So it's actually very heartening, you know, whether you agree
with their side or whatever, and whatever conflict we might
be talking about, it's very heartening. Like we said before,
these are actually embedded in the technology of ourself, embed

(01:24:19):
in the technology of our mind, embed in the technology
of the world of the universe. And it's reflected at
every layer. So even if you're not consciously aware of it,
because the memes have already come through and gotten to
your subconscious and they're there, and your ancestral subconscious and
your past life subconscious, they're going to come up and
out when you need them. And that's just the truth.

(01:24:39):
So the memo warfare will never be over or rather,
we will never be crushed by it, because we have
an intrinsic ability to overcome this. So manly p Hall
is correct about that. One more manly p Hall. He says,
when the human race learns to read the language of symbolism,
a great veil will fall from the eyes of men.

(01:25:01):
That is the truth. It is so, and so I
hope you have come a bit closer to having your
own understanding of symbol Symbolism means in their modern form,
symbols in their ancient form, informational packets that transmit between people,
and they are able to use that for your own

(01:25:21):
flourishing and upliftment more and more, and also for the
flourishing and upliftment of all of humanity. And until you do,
travel well, interbalance and always look inside first.

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