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Speaker 3 (00:30):
They get Waldrue and beautiful friends, welcome back to Rogue Ways.
We're tonight. We're talking about China and the Dalai Lama
and the destruction of an ancient mystic lineage which the
Dalai Lama represents. And interesting, you know matter here pretty

(00:54):
crazy that the Dalai Lama has essentially said some time
ago that he might not come back again. Whether you
believe in reincarnation or not, this is at least a
significant change for Tibetan Buddhists and an over six hundred
years lineage that the Dalai Lama has been holding as
he comes back time and time again. So we'll talk

(01:17):
about some of that. You know, of course, my background
as a communist, a genuine revolutionary communist for some time
before I saw through all of those illusions and broke
free from that mental cage. I have a special sort
of disdain for communism, and I have a very special

(01:38):
sort of disdain for China as a government. And having
been to China a few times, gotten to travel a
lot in China, see a lot of ancient Chinese heritage
and really beautiful things. I love the culture of China.
I love the people of China. I love the heritage
of China. I do not love the government of China.
And I would say that it is likely that if

(01:59):
you could free the people of China to speak freely
and genuinely believe in their safety and saying something that
they feel is true, that probably the majority of people
in China don't love their government. You know, here in
the United States, I think we could cut it up
pretty equally of people who genuinely hate the government and
genuinely love the government or at least the ideal of

(02:20):
what our government is supposed to be right with some criticisms.
I'm sure some asks at least, but I don't think
that's true in China. I think you could get a
pretty high percentage of people saying that they love their
government because they're terrified of their government. And there's a
good reason why China has been exceptionally oppressive and repressive

(02:43):
to its people in thought, in belief, in spirituality, in economy,
I mean, in every way that matters. And so the
people of China are very much not free. The people
of China who become free, they're able to leave or
run away or escape somehow, are full of criticism for

(03:04):
the communist regime there. And of course, you know, we
can say, well, they're not really communists and the way
they run their economy anymore, for sure, if they ever were, right,
but a lot of the ideology comes from the communist ideology,
and so they're communists at least in culture, and they're
communists at least in governance models, right, governance ideals. And

(03:27):
so the government of China is communist in that way,
and that's the way we're going to treat it and
act in accordance in this presentation here today at least.
So again, we could definitely have a conversation whether the
real communists or not. And I don't really care, but
you know, the things that are happening today are a
direct result of China having adopted communism as it's allegedly

(03:48):
economic and definitely governmental ideology back in the Glorious Revolution, right,
So we'll get into some of that. We'll see what's
happening with the Dalai Lama and this might signal for
the future of this specific souls reincarnation or emanation into
a physical form on this plane, and some of the
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the Chinese Communist Party suppression of Fallen Gong and that
spiritual movement. So we have talked in the past about

(12:12):
China about their suppression of spiritual movements, specifically with Fallen Gong.
I've mentioned their suppression of Christianity, before we may have
mentioned here there the legers and the suppression of the
Muslim religion in China, But tonight we're focusing on Tibetan
Buddhism very specifically. And maybe you know this story well,
but I bet there's a few things that you didn't

(12:32):
quite know before. So it may be interesting for you anyways,
and it might be totally new to you because I
don't know about you. But like in the nineties, maybe
the early two thousands, a lot of people were still
talking about freeing Tibet. I don't hear it anywhere anymore.
I don't see the bumper stickers, I don't see anybody
wearing the shirts.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Like.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
It's just not I think it's fallen out of popular culture.
I think it's fallen out of our mass consciousness. Perhaps
part of that is because China really wants it to
They don't want you to think about falling Gong. They
don't want you to think about their suppression of Christianity.
They don't want you to think about their complete subjugation

(13:12):
of the entire sovereign nation of Tibet, a very spiritual place,
a very spiritual country, and it's deeply evil what they've done.
So it started back in the you know again the
Glorious Revolution, the People's Liberation Army that was the army
of the revolution in China that overthrew you know, the
government there in order to replace it with this communist dictatorship.

(13:36):
And they call it that, they call it the dictatorship
of the proletariat. They're not in any way trying to
hide that they're a dictatorship, a totalitarian you know. But
in nineteen fifty one, as this was all happening, they
also then went over into Tibet, and the seventeen point
Agreement of the Central People's Government and the Local Government

(13:57):
of Tibet on Measures for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet
was signed between the you know, alleged government or leaders
of Tibet and that of China and the People's Liberation
Army and the communist government there. But unfortunately they had
already invaded militarily and subjugated that entire country. So it's

(14:20):
a little bit like what we did to the natives
here in the US. We're like, hey, we just took
all this land, you should sign this treaty. We just
killed all the buffalos, you should sign this treaty, you know,
and sometimes I think some of those tribes did not
necessarily experience deep subjugation and still signed a treaty. And
you know, there's things like that happening. But a lot

(14:41):
of times this was an after an after point. Right,
we already did it. We just need to kind of
make this official, so just sign here. And often people
maybe didn't know what they were signing, and you know,
there's all kinds of stuff with that. Well, this similar.
They already conquered all of Tibet, and then they were like,
by the way, sign this agreement. You agree with us, right,
this is all land actually right, And it was under

(15:02):
really really deep, you know, bullying, like it was under duress.
They weren't just freely coming to the table and saying yeah,
what do he got and agreeing. They were like, please
stop killing everyone. If we sign this, will you stop
killing everyone? You know how it is, everybody knows how

(15:23):
it is, and that's how it was. And so China
lauds this since then, you know, for the last seventy years,
it's like, oh, they agreed to this, They're part of
our country, this is our land. It's like, well, I
think any thinking person with any semblance of intelligence or
a heart is quite aware that that's not actually realistic,

(15:43):
you know, let alone being right or honorable or anything.
It's just evil. It's just evil. It's just totalitarianism. And
it's definitely not communists. But it's also interesting if you
talk to a lot of communists. And again, if you
would have talked to me back in the day, I
would have defended this to some degree. I would have said, well,
the people of Tibet were already subjugated and oppressed by

(16:04):
this religious ruling class, and so the people of China
saw that, and they were coming to free their comrades.
And this is the line, This is the story, and
it might even be the genuine belief of people, like
it was for me for a moment right before I
said no, I actually don't think that's cool, Like I think,
actually something went wrong here. And even if your idea

(16:25):
was to free these people, what you did was kill, torture, starve, bully, cajole,
like you didn't. No, this isn't freeing, this isn't freedom, right,
But a lot of people still hold that line of like,
well we have to free all of our brothers' naight,
and then your role. Once you have your glorious revolution
as a communist is too, then free all the people

(16:48):
in all the countries next to you and keep going
into the whole world is free. I'm not exaggerating, but
it is absolutely the entire goal. And it all happens
by violent throw. And if you don't agree with that,
you're put into re education and you're very very very
much not allowed to be spiritual, and to be spiritual,

(17:09):
especially to be religious, is a re education level offense.
Normal sort of people who just kind of think they
might be communists don't even really know this. But if
you join a party, if you become a part of
an actual communist party, if you start to actually get
into the literature and the movement and what the goals are,

(17:29):
this is always stated. It's never hidden, you know, it's
not even something they try to like, you know, paint
over in like a nice way. There's like, oh yeah,
re education for you. There's no questions here, like this
is what we're doing. So you know, they freed Tibet.
They liberated the people of Tibet by overthrowing Tibet and
by essentially delegitimizing the priests class. The ruling class there.

(17:56):
And again we could get into another episode. We could
go into some of the abuses under that system and
how that could be perceived as oppressive in many ways
too ensure, Yes, But for now, what we're talking about
is that was a sovereign nation with their own internal
methods of doing things, their own established religion and governance,
and that was all violently overthrown and they were forced

(18:18):
to sign this agreement. This says the document is the
only agreement signed between a PRC and a minority people,
that being the Chinese Communist Party and the people of Tibet.
And as part of a communist China's larger nation building
process and it's so called peripheries, the existence of a
fully functional independent state in Tibet made signing of the

(18:40):
seventeen Point Agreement a legal necessity for China. They had
to get this document to sort of be valid on
the world stage, to not be overthrown or like invaded
or whatever by other countries or other organizations of countries.
And so they had to do this, and so they did,
and again they did it by force. Additional provinces that

(19:01):
historically constitute Tibet had ruled their own affairs since the
fall of the Qing dynasty in nineteen twelve. So there
was a time when this whole larger region was perhaps
one sort of entity in some way, but that hadn't
been true for some time, right, And in its place
there was again a sovereign nation with its own system.

(19:21):
Central Tibet was administered by the Gandhan Fodrong. I'm sure
I'm going to say a lot of these things incorrectly,
but just bear with me. By this government and headed
by the Dalai Lama in the city of Lasa. It
was based in Tibetan Buddhism and the principles of Chosi
Sundril or religion and politics combined, meaning that you know,
the priests class or the religious class, they are the

(19:42):
political rulers. And again a lot of us, I think,
would like sort of balk at that and be like, oh,
that's like really bad or that's but it's really none
of our business, right and at the very least we
could say whether we like it or not. The Chinese
government had no right to invade by force and forcibly
take over this space and then force them to sign
this document in order to legitimize it. On the world stage.

(20:04):
All of that is very sus very evil behavior and
very communist. So here's the Panchin Lama. Maoseei Doong's here
in the middle. He's of course the leader of the
glorious revolution, you know, and people there are very again

(20:25):
Mauzi Doong's pictures everywhere, statues everywhere, people have him on
the wall. I think there's a sort of genuine love
of the idea of him. Again, there might be some
people who actually do sort of buying the line and
think that that was liberation and that they're free now
and that this is better for China, and if so,
then Maozi Doong is definitely to be celebrated. There's a
lot of questionable things about him. We can do a

(20:46):
whole show on that too. Maybe we will another time.
The other two Trebetan provinces in the east and the northeast,
had their own local rulers who nonetheless were faithful to
the Dallai Lama and to bet and Buddhism. So they
did have their own sort of organization, but they acknowledged
the Dalai Lama is sort of the supreme leader of
the Supreme Guide, and they were faithful to that several
Dalai Lamas and Panchin Lamas, the second highest Buddhist hierarch

(21:10):
including the current fourteenth Dalai Lama and tenth Poncha Lama,
hailed from Amdo, one of those regions. So you know,
even from these regions that had their own sort of governance,
they were still participating. And the Dalai Lama and Ponchin
Lama are again, whether you believe it or not, they
are allegedly and in my opinion, actually reincarnated beings. They
reincarnate and they come back. So they were coming from

(21:32):
all these regions and they were all united under this
hierarchy of a spiritual nature, the Dalai Lama again being
the sort of chief amongst them and the Pancha Lama
being the sort of second in command, if you need
to think of it that way. They really support each other.
They actually find and identify each other in order to

(21:53):
you know, really know who is the reincarnated Dali Lama
and Pancha Lama like, they both reinf force that for
each other. So the Dalai Lama finds the Pancha Lama
and then the Panchamama finds the Dalai Lama. Right, they
take turns the seventeen point agreement which China forced them
to sign, was signed under duress. Beforehand, the PLA had
occupied Ondo and Calm, and the Dalai Lama and his

(22:14):
supporters had sought refuge in Dromo, South Tibet. According to
the Dailama's autobiography, the negotiator on I'm not going to
try to read his name, was not authorized to sign
anything on his behalf, and counterfeit seals of the Tibetan
state were used. Was it not only was it under duress,
it wasn't even real. They used fake people and forced

(22:35):
them to sign other people's names and put fake seals
on there. That's pretty fucked up. The terms of the
agreement claimed that Tibet sought Chinese protection from imperialist powers.
And so remember this is the whole line of communists everywhere,
is that they're all freeing everyone from imperialism and protecting
each other from imperialism. So of course that would be
the line. Right Tibet came to us, they requested our

(22:59):
assistance because we had just had our glorious revolution. We
were so successful. They wanted help and also freeing themselves
from imperialist domination. That's what they're said, right, That's what
the line was. Clause one of the agreements stated that
quote that Tibetan people shall unite and drive out imperialist
aggressive forces from Tibet. The Tibetan people shall return to

(23:20):
the family of the Motherland of the PRC. You know,
and this is also the line on communists in communist
ideology is that the revolution wouldn't have happened if imperialists
had their way. That the only reason there's negative sort
of talk or ideas ideas about communism's ultimate goodness is

(23:42):
because imperialists place that propaganda around that Tibet and any
Tibetan resistance to joining China or you know, loving China's
defeat of their sovereign nation is imperialist propaganda, or it's
imperialist placement of people in power. Right, just like the
CI and FBI go around and topple governments and have

(24:03):
coups and do all this stuff, like this is all
imperialists getting in the way. Otherwise everyone would love communism,
everyone would love the Chinese government, and all of Tibet
would have joyously accepted this invasion. So that's the line, right,
they're protecting them from imperialism. As the Dalai Lama remarks
in his autobiography. However, the only foreign army to have

(24:25):
ever been stationed on Tibetan soil was the Manchu Army
of nineteen twelve. At the time of the seventeen Point Agreement,
they were only a handful of Europeans in Tibet. And
that's true. We have all sorts of history documents even
movies about it. That there was almost no communication with
anyone outside of Tibet actually, like very little, and definitely

(24:46):
not with the West. So the imperialists they're talking about
are always Britain or the US, Britain or the US,
not even Russia. But like maybe you could throw Russia
in there if you wanted to. But none of those
countries had any representation there at all. They didn't you know.
I'm sure they had some spies and whatever, like everyone
does everywhere, but there wasn't this like big sort of

(25:07):
you know, fingers in the pot there in Tibet from
these alleged imperialists. That was just a good cover story.
Rather than liberating Tibetans, then, the agreement was a tool
to consolidate China's hold of Tibet. Obviously, China's an expansionist government.
Their goal is to destabilize world powers and become a
world power, and part of their attempt to do that

(25:28):
is to gather as much territory as possible, and especially
territory that holds a possible resistance to their domination. And
they have seemingly, very accurately identified that spiritual and religious
groups are a major thorn in their side. There's a
major level of resistance. When you know God and you

(25:49):
know Source, and you know that you're a soul and
that your body is sort of secondary to that, you're
a big problem for any government actually, potentially because you
don't abide by the rules of man. You abide by
the rules of your soul and of God. You can
think that's crazy or not, it doesn't matter. That's just
what happens when you have as faith, when you have
a belief. And so they're not wrong that this is

(26:13):
a threat to them. They're just wrong that they shouldn't
be threatened. They're wrong that they should have some sort
of right to just eternally exist and continuously eat up
more and more territory and you know, be this expansionist,
aggressive government The seventeen Point Agreement pertained to efforts to
ensure Chinese national security on its frontiers. Tibet has long

(26:37):
been a strategic issue for China. Chinese policy makers from
the late Qing period onwards saw Tibet as the back
door for invaders to attack the Middle Kingdom. It's just
a little bit crazy, like I mean, especially these days,
like we'll get you from the air, We'll get you
from space. We've got Golden Dome and whatever, like you know,
like we're not coming through the Himalayas at you, bro.

(26:59):
So that's not an excuse. It never was really, but
it was especially crazy then. It's even more crazy now.
And they still haven't released Tibet. By the way, Tibet
is still completely occupied by China and subjugated by China
to this day in a really horrifying ways. So the
Chinese absorbed Tibet and created the conditions for border disputes

(27:21):
between China and India. So India's next on the chopping block.
Nepal has been a place of battle as well. A
lot of the communists sort of sentiment in the Pla
have sort of leaked into that. It's been ongoing forever
I don't even know if Nepal's known peace in my lifetime.
Me and mar is similar. That entire region is sort
of infected with this really deep division around like communism

(27:45):
and not communism, which is unfortunate to a large degree.
It did provide this agreement a range of rights to Tibetans.
Excuse me, it's like a essentral oil thing. It was
just like spraying into my mouth, so I just had
to change its direction. But the agreement that they signed

(28:09):
did provide a range of rights to Tibetans pertaining to religion, culture,
and traditional institutions. The Tibetan political system was left intact,
and with it the authority of the Dalai Lama and
Ponchin Lama. In central Tibetan socialist reforms such as land
orre just redistribution were left to Tibetan authorities discretion. But
the same was not the case in the eastern Tibetan
provinces of Common Ondo, which were subjected to the Chinese

(28:31):
land just redistribution policies beginning in the mid nineteen fifties.
So remember this is a very communist thing. They take
all the property and they distribute it to whoever they
deem fit. Ideally, you are sort of taking all the
wealth and making sure everyone has some again, whether you
like the system or not. That's at least what ideally
would happen if you were going to practice this, right,

(28:51):
But in practice that's not even also always what happened.
Like a lot of people who were dispossessed before remain
dispossessed now. There's no way to accumulateor gather their wealth.
There's no way to really guarantee you have anything, to safety,
anything to rely on, anything that's yours. But they did
this in the East, that's right on the border of China.
They didn't do it in the other areas, even though

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ideally they were supposed to not do it at all,
because in this agreement they did leave room for the
Dalai Lama and their religious spiritual structure to maintain their
governmental decision making powers and authority. But that's not what
it happened in practice, right. The imposition of these reforms,
as well as the Chinese state's refusal to respect the

(29:34):
long standing ties between the provinces of Eastern and Central Tibet,
led to an armed uprising and common onto beginning in
nineteen fifty six, So the people of Tibet revolted against
the Chinese subjugation of their land, their culture, and their ways.
Recently declassified materials from Russian archives show that communist forces
used Soviet aircraft to bomb local monasteries and punitive missions.

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Ti Betan guerrillas and civilian refugees fled to Lassa, where
they formed since army known as the Chushi Gong Druk,
whose name references the ancient name of eastern Tibet, Tibet.
By nineteen fifty nine, the uprising spread to central Tibet.
The CIA provided covert support for the chu Hi Gong Druk,
and protesters in Lasa declared Tibetan independence. Rumors spread that

(30:18):
the Chinese were preparing to arrest the Dalai Lama, who
escaped to India before the PLA retook Lasa after heavy shelling.
So there weren't wrong. I mean, like the imperialists came
in to support Tibet, if you want to call them that.
The West came to support Tibet, allegedly tried to help
them maintain independence from China. We were very big on

(30:38):
fighting communism at some point, and you know this was
part of that attempt, but China did actually end up
taking even that area that had Western support and that
had seemingly successfully sort of stood their ground, and so
even Losa fell with heavy shelling, and the Dalai Lama fled,
like I said, he fled. And you've probably all heard
this again. He's hasn't been back since he left, and

(31:03):
he's been traveling the world and having a government in exile,
and you know, talking about Tibetan independence, talking about China
my whole life at least. So the uprising in Dali
Lama's flight marked the failure of the seventeen point Agreement.
From exile, the Dalai Lama has continued to repudiate the agreement,
claiming it was thrust upon the Tibetan government and people
by the threat of arms, which they then used. Anyway, right,

(31:26):
you never deal with the devil. He's never honest. The
agreement was born out of Tibet's distinct political status, unless
to referred to this agreement as a blueprint of the
PRC's current one country, two systems formula, which has been
applied to Hong Kong as well, however, which just means
they do it slightly differently in that place, because they're

(31:47):
trying to like maintain authority but like not totally alienate everyone. Right. However,
for the Chinese state, the desire to assimilate Tibet into
the Chinese nation and thus strengthen its security took pressidence
over the actual implementation of the seventeen point Agreement. The
promise of autonomy has rung hollow throughout the last seventy years,
as Chinese authorities continue to make every important decision in

(32:10):
the region, including religious decisions. Right, I'm adding that for
my own emphasis. Because Chinese security preoccupations remain dominant, Tibetans
have engaged in a steady resistance. It has ranged from
mass protests to self immolations. So it's funny, you know,
the self immolation actually was sort of pioneered in Tibet,
and then it became like a weird syop in the US.

(32:33):
I don't even remember, do you remember those people were
self immolating in the last few years. I'm not even
sure why, Like it was never even very clear, and
it wasn't even clear if it was very real, you know,
But you know, Tibet and Tibet, like that's a much
more reasonable place and time to self emilate. And I'm
not saying I want anyone to do that. It's a

(32:56):
horrible thing, but it makes sense if you're like my
whole country, my whole culture, everything I know and love,
all of my sacred history that goes back through massive
amounts of time, all is in jeopardy and may never
be free again. Why would I care about this body

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a little bit different from whatever people in the West
thought was happening to them, right. One hundred and fifty
seven Tibetans have self immolated since two thousand and nine,
with the latest by Yon Ten, a twenty four year
old former monk from Curtim Monastery in eastern Tibet who
set himself on fire in twenty nineteen. I don't know
if this has been updated since then, by the way,
but that was at least the recent one as of then.

(33:37):
I do think this is a twenty nineteen article that
doesn't even have a date, So so yeah, again, yeah,
I can at least understand somewhat why you might do
that in Tibet. It's horrible. If you've ever watched again
people documentaries or any informational sort of videos from Tibet,

(33:58):
nuns and monks get raped. You know. I don't know
why people for some reason think I don't know what
people think, but for some reason people think like the
Chinese government isn't that bad, but or like that it's
only the US that does these things, or so I'm
not really sure what that is. I don't know if
it's this like desire for people to really like adore

(34:18):
other cultures and not their own, if it's like white
guilt or shame or something. But like people don't know
that that they're using rape as a torture weapon in Tibet,
and they have been for seventy years, that if you
stand up in any way and in any way indicate
that you aren't just just allegiant to China, that you
might get raped and tortured. You know, Like people I

(34:40):
think think that like they're, oh, yeah, it was a
liberation army and they were coming to free them, and
then they're just there now, and it's like, no, there's
a violent, ongoing suppression of the people of Tibet. It's
deeply awful to see. So that's sort of a little
bit of a background there. Here's a Free Tibet dot org.

(35:02):
This is again I don't even know how long that's
been a thing. I think my whole life maybe longer.
So they are a little bit more that what we
just read was a little bit you know, neutral ish.
You know, this is much less neutral. This is like,
screw China, give them out of Tibet. How evil? Right?
A little bit more in your face? So apparently they're saying.

(35:26):
For the last six years in a row, US think
tank Freedom Houses ranked Tibet amongst the worst places in
the world for civil rights and political freedom. We know
some pretty harsh and horrible stories from various places in
the world where really dark things are happening, you know,
various places in the Middle East and otherwise, and this
is ranked one of the worst. So again, I don't

(35:48):
know why. I think people just like, don't think Asia's
like this. I'm not sure, Like I said, what it is,
people seem to have a disconnect for how horrifying things
have been and are INTI bet there is nothing like
freedom of any kind. You can't think the way you want,
you can't practice your spiritual or religious act the way

(36:11):
you want, you can't feel the way you want. You
can nothing. You have no freedom. You don't even own
your things, and your country isn't your country, There is
no freedom there. In fact, this is the first sentence
here says under the Chinese Communist Party, nobody is free.
And that's true. They're allegedly freeing everyone, but you're not

(36:32):
free in their society. They freed you from something, but
now you're not free in every possible way. Was it
worth it? I don't think so. Tibetans have fewer civil
rights and political rights than most so not only they're
saying everyone in China is not free, but in Tibet
it's even worse. Right, all Chinese people are subjugated and oppressed.
Tibet is even worse. From the mass police surveillance of

(36:55):
Lasa's busy streets to the torture that takes place in
Tibet's hidden detention centers every day, the Chinese government subjects
Tibetans to suffocating control and the use of violence. You know,
I want to show this to those people. It's really
trendy right now to be like China's so cool. Look
at what Chinese people do. It's like a TikTok thing
and like a weird you know, sigh off that's going

(37:16):
on right now, I just want to show them this.
I just want to show them, like the video of
them torturing nuns. I want to show them the videos
of the people who come out of these detention centers
and say, like I was anally raped for months, you know,
like I don't know if I'll ever walk again, right,
I want to show them that, like, oh, this China,

(37:36):
is that the China that you love? I mean, I
want to know. I want I want to understand you better.
I want to know what it is you love about China.
Cause again, people of China, awesome government of China. I
haven't seen anything more evil. Every aspect of Tibetan life
is under siege. Descent protests, or even wishing the Dalai

(37:56):
Lama a happy birthday or having a Tibetan on your
phone will turn you into a criminal. So yeah, you
totally have freedom, keep your spiritual traditions, keep your spiritual hierarchy.
But if you talk about it, mention it, have any
symbol of it, then we'll kill you, right Like, Okay,

(38:17):
I don't think freedom means what you think it means.
So political oppression of violence. Here's a child being carried
away by the people's liberation Army again. It's it's I
don't know what it's right now, everyone's focused on Palestine.
I'm not saying don't focus on it. Sometimes people were
focused on Yemen, right, some Libya, some other place, South Africa.

(38:42):
I mean, there's various places in the world you can
point to and say, really horrible things are happening to people.
I don't hear anybody talk about Tibet anymore. This is
a child that is being carried away to be who knows, disappeared, tortured, killed.
It's hard to say. Extensive use of is used. Peaceful
protests are suppressed with severe violence, intense surveillance, checkpoints, monitoring

(39:08):
activities devices, etc. Prisons are full of people detained for
simply expressing their desire for freedom or again wishing the
Dalai Lama well. They're imprisoned on unclear, unspecified charges. Often
their families aren't informed of their whereabouts. They just have
no rights. They're denied access to legal support, they face

(39:28):
trials that don't respect international standards of justice. If that's
not obvious, they can actually even just be killed. The
death penalty is something the Chinese Communist Party uses against
the people of Tibet. If they're in any way charged
with what they're calling separatism, which again is as simple
as wishing for freedom of the Tibetan people and return

(39:49):
to your sovereignty, you can be murdered for that. They
call it a death sentence. It's actually just murder. Even
children face all of these things. There's not an age
cut off for these people. That's how evil China is.
The flag and anthem are banned. Tibetan Buddhism is seen
as a threat to the occupying Chinese state and is

(40:11):
tightly regulated, with Chinese officials closely monitoring and controlling religious
activity at monasteries and nunneries. That we're going to get
deeper into that. That's like the whole point of the
episode actually is that the Chinese Countist Party pretends that
Tibetan Buddhism still exists, but it's actually just the Chinese
Communist Party pretending to be Tibetan Buddhist in order to

(40:32):
control these people. It's really crazy. They attempted to erase
the Dalai Lama from Tibet. Possessing pictures of him or
mentioning him can result in imprisonment and torture. This is
very similar to Fallen Gong. There's a phrase that Fallen
Gong uses and I get it wrong times. You know,
I didn't research that part to get ready for this show.
But it's something like peace, love, and happiness. It's just

(40:53):
three words that are very very simple words, and if
you say those three words in that order, you can
be in prison, torture, to killed. They just have like
a no tolerance like for any spiritual or religious organization
that they have deemed troublesome for them, which is all
of them. Let's be clear, to be very clear about that,
it's literally all of them. That's a communist ideological tenet

(41:18):
is to very specifically not allow any spiritual or religious
belief or activity at all. So they'll tell you that
you can technically, but if you actually do it, there's
severe punishment for you. Thousands of monks, nuns, and students
have been forcibly evicted from their residences, homes have been demolished.

(41:39):
Chinese have moved in, very much like Palestine and Israel.
They're just like, oh, yeah, there's just Chinese people here now,
this is their house now, over and over and over
and over all throughout Tibet. I don't even know anymore
how many Tibetans are actually left and how many are
just Chinese writers, singers, artists, and teachers are jailed for
celebrating tib national identity or for any criticism of China's rules.

(42:02):
So if you even try to teach about your own history,
even just factually, you might be in prison, torture it,
or killed. The Tibetan language is under threat. Chinese is
the official language, and so using Tibetan language can also
get you in prison, tortured or killed. School children or
denied classes in their mother tongue and they're being taught
in Chinese, and so there just won't be a tibet

(42:24):
there's no Tibetan culture, language, or religion allowed. Around eight
hund thousand to nine hundred thousand Tibetan children have been
separated from their families and forced to undergo education and
colonial boarding schools. What does that remind you of? You know,
and we act like we just care so much, and
we're so like moralistic, and we just have all of
these values and oh, we need to go into this

(42:46):
country and do this because blah blah blah. But we
totally ignore it in other cases, and especially China's case
for some reason, especially China's case, and people don't even
know this is happening. I don't know how, they just don't.
Here's a YouTube video we won't watch, but it's called

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Tibetan's shot like dogs by Chinese troops. You could find
the exact same video in Palestine. Everyone who is somewhat
in the know in the alternative and conspiracy theory sort
of community, they're happy to hate israel I. Almost none
of them ever talked about China. Way you bigger threat

(43:28):
in my opinion, or equal. I think it's equal. I
don't know. You can make the argument they're both pretty
bad talking about governments, not people. All of you stupid
people out there who want to make me out to
be some kind of bigot that I'm not.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
So.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Tibet is governed by the Chinese Communist Party in Beijing,
not in Tibet, not by Tibetans, and definitely not by
the Tibetan Buddhist hierarchy. China has incentivized Chinese migration into Tibet.
Like I said, it's just they're settling there more and
more they kick the locals out the natives out. Some
infrastructure and construction projects in Tibet award jobs to Chinese

(44:04):
migrants and not Tibetans, so they're a second class citizen
in their own country. Travel for Tibetans is restricted. There's
police checkpoints monitoring movements, and permits required to visit especially
sensitive religious areas. And Tibetans have no automatic right to
a Chinese passport, making international travel nearly impossible, so they
can't escape their prison essentially, and they've thought of every

(44:26):
possible way to torture them and imprison them in their
own country. So China is using Tibet's natural rich natural
resources gold, copper, water to fuel its economic and industrial extensions,
so their natural resources are also being raped there, and

(44:47):
so they've restricted information just like they do in their
own country. People aren't allowed to go to certain sites,
do there certain things, share certain information with people. Again,
you can be rape, in prison, tortured for any of it.
So strictly monitored and very deeply suppressed there. So this
site has a lot more. If you just want to

(45:08):
get into it or support the Tibetan freedom movement, you
can check out free Tibet dot org. China has also
co opted a Buddhist sect in a global effort to
smear the Dalai Lama. This is an article from twenty fifteen.
The Door Jay Shugden movement gets clandestine support from the
Communist Party. Their joint campaign to discredit the Tibetan spiritual

(45:32):
leader is paying off, especially in Britain. So they will
find sects who are willing to sort of betray themselves
and act as though the Tibetan Buddhist hierarchy and tradition
is somehow wrong or bad, right to discredit this, and
then people who don't really know right this site out

(45:52):
may work, they're not really sure and they're like, well,
I don't know this other Buddhist sect doesn't like them,
So maybe China was right to go in there, right
And again, like I said, if you would have talked
to me at a certain point in time, I would
have been closer to that side of things. I would
have said something like that to you, like, well, the
people there were already oppressed, so trying to free them.

(46:13):
I mean, it's kind of psychotic, but it's easy to believe,
or it's easier than having to face the fact that
there is a that there's this horrible of a situation
going on in the world, right, and that perhaps that
requires at least some attention or at least the understanding
of like who the enemies are, right, which countries are

(46:35):
the worst offenders, and what is it that's wrong in
the world that needs some fixing. It's easier to be like, oh, yeah, no,
this other group says it's it's not good. And this
is a really common tactic of you know, whether you're imperialist, communist,
or whatever government, if you want power and control, this
is a really common tactic is if you can't infiltrate,

(46:58):
if you can't co opt the group, the tradition, the
movement that you want, then you can at least infiltrate,
co opt and infiltrate these other groups that are similar
or draw the attention away from that group and to
this other group that you've already controlled. Right, you've already
co opted them. They are yours. Essentially, you've captured them,

(47:20):
and now you can direct attention there. So we see
this with things like the Proud Boys, right, Patriot Front
or whatever. It's like there was some other group somewhere
that was actually really patriotic and genuinely like all for
the republic and the decentralization of federal power, and that
started to get some attention and grow, and so they

(47:42):
were like, hey, here's the Patriot Front, right, and now
anyone who thinks they want to be part of Patriots
was like, oh, Patriot Front very attractive, easier to find,
easier to get connected to, but completely controlled. And this
is no different. So China has also done that, right,
They've also just like, yeah, look here are these monks

(48:04):
like us. Well, those monks aren't monks, or they're paid off,
or they were willing to portray themselves and others. So
they talk about the Dalai Lama's religious tyranny. And this
is again one of the lines that I would have
probably told you in two thousand and three when I
was running around with the RCP and the Revolutionary Communist
Party of the United States. I would have said the
same thing. Dalai Lama is a tyrant, he was abusive

(48:28):
to his people, blah blah blah. And it's all sayah,
it's all information control, it's all mind control actually, but
it fits the narrative, right. Makes you feel like you
think you know things, you feel like you're right and
that's the goal. So you know, back at this time

(48:54):
when the Chinese government was using this specific tactic of
co opting this other Buddhist sect, it was working. A
lot of people were hating the Dalai Lama. Again, you
might still be on that sort of side of things,
and that might be your perspective and you might hate
the Dalai Lamas. That's cool, you do what you want.
But this isn't really a reason to hate anyone, and

(49:16):
it's definitely not a reason to attack people. But Dalai
Lama got some attacks, some pressure got pushed around. He
had to have extra protection. Because this line worked so
well that the Western world enough of it, were like,
screw the Dalai Lama. That guy's a tyrant. They weren't like,

(49:38):
screwed China. It just goes and takes whatever it wants
and just makes up stories and just tortures people. But
screw that guy who never did anything like that. Let's
screw that guy. Right, The people who were under him
believed in a religion and he was the head of it.
How dare he people, literally, if you just restate what
they're saying, that's essentially what they're saying. How dare he

(49:59):
be the he out of our religion. Again, whether you
believe in it or not doesn't matter. People have the
right to be in a religion and to have a
head of their religion. It's totally acceptable. You don't have
to like it, but it's totally within their rights as
living people to do that. And yeah, there's nothing wrong
with that if you then feel oppressed by that religion,

(50:22):
like you didn't have to be in it unless you
can just go. No. One before China invaded was forcing
people to stay. No One before China invaded was forcing
people to think and do an act in certain ways. No,
you might have felt pressured. Right again, you grow up
in a certain religion, you're like start to like, oh,
I feel pressure to do this and that that's what
we're supposed to do. This is what we're supposed to believe. Sure,

(50:44):
you can't actually compare that to the type of subjugation
and oppression that comes with invading a country by force
and violently forcing them to do what you want. It's
a very different, very different question. People act like they're
the same. Now I have met these people I have
they act like that's the same thing. Those people are crazy.

(51:06):
Those people aren't very well. So you know there's other
things like, oh, monks would rape the nuns and the other. Yeah. Again,
there isn't a religion or a spiritual organization in the
world that is free of corruption. There isn't a single
organization in the world that is free of corruption. There
isn't any institution where there aren't people who are there

(51:30):
for themselves and to take advantage of anyone they can.
That doesn't exist. I don't think it ever has not
anything we remember that doesn't exist. So schools, churches, every religion,
every spiritual organization, every institution and group has that. That
is not a problem with the religion. It's not a

(51:52):
problem with the institution. That's a problem of human beings.
That's just what humans are and do. They're corruptible, they're
self serving, they make mistakes, they fall into their lowest nature.
Sometimes sometimes they stay there the whole time. You also

(52:12):
have made mistakes. So it's crazy to me to just
try to discredit an entire spiritual tradition by saying something
like that, oh, some of the people in it did
bad things. I mean, tell me something new. That's an
old story. It's very true of everywhere. So again, there's

(52:34):
a lot more we can go into about this effort
by China, you know, and they call the di Lama
the false Dolly Lama. They say he's not even real.
He just took that title and and now he's like
keeping it from people like someone else's actually supposed to
be the real Diala Lama's crazy. So that's all happening.
But also most I think alarmingly, I think most alarmingly,

(53:01):
China has now attempted to control the reincarnated being itself.
So Chinese Communist Party authorities have stepped up efforts to
control the succession of the Dalai Lama by hosting their
first major training on reincarnation involving monks from a prominent
Tibetan monasteries, that being the ones that they've co opted.

(53:23):
That were we were just talking about singling their desire
to exclude the Dalai Lama from playing any role in
his own succession. A senior official at the training said
the reincarnation system is never a religious only issue or
a living Buddha's personal right, but an important representation of
the Communist Party of China's strategies and policies in the region.

(53:48):
If that even bakes any sense to you. I think
you're just as insane as they are. Like they're literally
saying that a reincarnated being that has reincarnated fourteen times
on Earth doesn't get to decide what he does next,
whether he reincarnates or how, and that they actually get
to decide because it's China. It's their right, that's the

(54:09):
China's People's republic right. They have the right to determine
who the people are within their territory and what they're doing.
That's their argument. And they're like, oh, this other sect
of Tibetan Buddhists they believe it, they agree with us. Well, yeah,
I don't know what you did to them or like
why they're like this, But that doesn't mean much. You

(54:31):
can find someone to believe or agree with anything you want.
It can be totally rational, it could be totally insane.
Someone will agree with him, believe in you. Someone will
even maybe make a cult about it. Like that doesn't
justify anything, right. At the same time, the Chinese installed
Punchin Lama again, that's the second in command. Guy helps
the Tibetan uh or sorry, the Dalai Lama you know,

(54:52):
also reincarnate. They help each other find each other and
be reincarnated. So the punchin Lama, who in Beijing is
using to help gain cont troll over Tibetan Buddhism, has
been on an inspection tour of monasteries and villages in
the Tibetan Autonomous Region, including in sensitive areas close to
the Indian border. China's leader Xiji Ping is expected to

(55:12):
visit India soon. This is back in twenty nineteen, remember,
after the upcoming seventieth anniversary of the People's Republic of
China on October first. So he's just like reinforcing like, yeah,
we own all of this. This is all ours with
this panchin Lama, which we'll get into as well. Later
this year, the Central Tibetan Administration is convening a special

(55:33):
General Meeting of Tibetans from across the international Tibetan diaspora.
The meeting agenda includes a discussion on the relationship between
the Dalai Lamas and the Tibetan people. So they're hosting
all of these people, handpicked, I'm sure, who are willing
to again deceive, betray themselves, betray others, go against what's
actually good, true and beautiful to talk about this, like

(55:54):
who's a Dalai Lama? Think he is? And as you
get to rein garnate and don't we get to choose. Actually,
let's make an official document for people to sign, because
that will legitimize our lies. Beijing's intensive focus on controlling
the Dalai Lama succession reflects its frustration at its own
lack of legitimacy among Tibetans. That's an understatement, but that's

(56:15):
absolutely true. This is the whole thing. They're like, why
won't Tibetans just give up this fight and just accept
us as their masters and stop being Tibetan Buddhists because
China's fucking crazy and they actually think that that's what
should happen. Despite the harshness of the Chinese communist parties
campaign against religion, loyalty to the Dalai Lama among Tibetans

(56:37):
remains constant. So they're like, Okay, if we can't get
you to give up on this, we're gonna replace the
Dalai Lama with our reincarnated Dali Lama. Is this again,
doesn't make any sense no matter whether you believe in
reincarnation or not, but especially if you believe in it,
it makes no sense at all. But they're stupid enough

(56:57):
because they're atheists. They really don't underst stand that actually
reincarnation happens, and you don't get to choose. That being
already freed itself from all of this. It gets to
do whatever it wants to do. It doesn't have to
come back ever again. It can come back somewhere else.

(57:17):
It can come back in South Africa, it can come
back in Brazil. It can do whatever it wants. It is,
in fact, entirely possible this being is incarnated in multiple
bodies right now. It doesn't have to, and it could.
It could come into anybody's properly prepared body and talk

(57:38):
through it and act for it, and then leave again,
and that person's sole personality would still be intact. This
is the way that that again allegedly essentially works when
you're an ascended master. That's how it is. So yeah,
I'm not asking you to believe in that. I'm telling
you how it is believed to be and in my experience,

(58:00):
how it actually is. Beijing. I'm not a Tibetan Buddhist.
I just understand that reincarnation is a thing, and that
this being has long since transcended all of this karma
that we're all doing down here, just chose to come
back to help us anyway. Beijing's oh I already read
that the Dalai Lama has made it clear that only
he has authority over his reincarnation, an authority that is

(58:23):
accepted by Tibetans, by followers of Tibetan Buddhism worldwide, and
by the international community. I will add it's actually accepted
by anybody who genuinely understands reincarnation. That just is true.
So you couldn't possibly change it with anything anywhere, at
any time. You can do all the black magic you want,

(58:44):
you can do all the demon worshiping you wa, you
can do all the anything you want, and you still
wouldn't be able to stop it. There is no way
for you to stop it. But China is delusional enough
to be like, oh no, we're going to decide where,
when and how you reincarnate and who the Dalai Lama is.
So the Dalai Lama has made some really interesting choices recently,

(59:05):
especially so that when he does pass on and leave
this body behind, people will not be mistaken and who
the next Doli Lama is or isn't right because of
China saying, oh, this is the dolly lom. Look, we
found him. Here he is. We're the ones who have
the Ponchin Lama, and the Pancha Lama is the one
who can find the Dolli Lama. And this Pannschaalama said,

(59:26):
that's the dolly Lama. So here's the Dollailama. By the way,
we control him. So here you go to Betans. Here's
a leader. Now you do what he says. Oh, by
the way, he wants you to do all the things
that we told you to do too. See how that works.
So the dialama has been very clear about possibly never
reincarnating again here, which I'm like, I fucking totally get it.

(59:50):
I don't know if I would either. Ah, but he's
a little different from me. He's not because he's like
sick of everybody's shit. It's because he's like, no, there
would be no purpose, right, if this is what China's doing,
there'd be no purpose in me coming back, and not
in this way. Plenty of other ways, but not in
this way. So that's what China is doing now. So

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these people who are doing this also are emphasizing the
importance of I don't know exactly how you pronounce this,
but cynicization. It's essentially making everything Chinese, so of the
Tibetan Buddhist religion, saying that it's interpreted in accordance with
this requirements of contemporary China's development and in line with
the Chinese traditional culture, which basically just means that it
doesn't exist anymore. If you want everything to be traditional

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Chinese culture, a, it'd be Buddhist, but in Daoist you know,
but those aren't allowed. So then why would you even
pretend it's Tibetan Buddhism. It's not, it's Chinese. This is
a very different thing. Why even pretend to be honest? Right?
So I go, yeah, we want it to be and Buddhism,

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and we want you to be able to be Tibetan Buddhists.
We just want to control the Dahalai Lama and we
want you to do everything in the Chinese way and
not in the Tibetan Buddhist way. I really want you
to be free. I'm just going to control everything you
do and say at all times, but you're free. He's
just backwards. This is double speak to say two things

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that don't make any sense together and expect everyone to
just accept them. George Orwell didn't create that out of nowhere.
He saw it happening in the world and made a
book about it. And people are like, no, he was
like saying that this is the plan, like it already
happened in his time. It was the plan that already
was carried out. It wasn't hard to see. You don't

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have to be a prophet to look at what's happening
right here, right now, although it seems that way to
people because they're not paying attention to anything. You seem
like a profit if you're paying attention. Okay. So China's
warning the world also to not get involved with this

(01:02:04):
process of them taking over Tibetan Buddhism, choosing their own
Dolli Lama and saying that they control his reincarnation. Don't
get involved, they say. So, you know, they're clashing. Tibet
and China are clashing over the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama.
This is from three years ago on the Guardian dot com.

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And so they described that meeting we just talked about
and the sort of goals of what they were trying
to do, and India is a part of this as well,
Poor India, and India is not alone, it says, and
seeing the Dalai Lama succession as a matter of geopolitical importance.

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Last year, in a direct shot at China, the US
revised it's Tibet policy to declare that only Tibetan's had
the right to select the next Dolli Lama. And that
was good of the US. We're like, we're not gonna
say or do anything about this, but we will at
least reinforce that, like you do technically have the right
to choose for yourself. So traditionally, after the Dalai Lama dies,

(01:03:10):
a search begins in Tibet to find his reincarnation based
on signs such as where he was looking when he died,
which direction the smoke blows when he's cremated, and visions
interpreted from Lamo Lazzo and Oracle Lake in Tibet. Based
on these visions, search parties are sent out to find
children born around the date of his death who match
these visions and are then put through a series of
tests until the right one is divined. While most Dali

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lamas have been found in Tibet, one was born in
Mongolia and another in an area that is now India,
but with Tibet under the control of China's process which
led to the discovery of the two year old Lamo
Dondup now known as Tenzan Yatso, the fourteenth Dalai Lama
in a small farming village in northeastern Tibet in February
nineteen forty is unlikely to be repeated. It's now enshrined

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in law that the Chinese government must approve all reincarnations
of senior Buddhist lamas, including the Dalai Lama, a position
that was strongly reiterated in a Tibet white paper released
by China in May of the year. This was written, which,
like I said, was four years ago. So they released
a white paper, just so stupid and pretentious. Just say,

(01:04:15):
you released a statement, you idiot. People are like, I
have a white paper on this. I'm like, oh, I
have a blue paper, Like You're so dumb. I just
get so sick of pretension and arrogance. Is so frustrating.
So they're white paper, ah said, So it said, so
we have to approve of all Dalai Lama. Aren't great
there this has been rejected by the Dalai Lama and

(01:04:37):
the Tibetan Parliament in Exile, which sits in Dharamsala. Pempa
Searing is the president of the Parliament in exile and
works closely with the Dalai Lama, and he said, a
non believer, atheist government like China interfering in Tibetan spiritual
matters is a complete no no. It cannot be accepted.
I love that it's a complete no no. The world

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has turned in against China. We firmly believe no one
will trust their choice. But they're absolutely right. Again, there's
this new campaign for some reason, really really silly people
are falling for it. They're like, Wow, China's so cool again.
Chinese people are cool. Chinese government is evil. I don't
think it's going to work. I think there's enough intelligent

(01:05:22):
people that will at least remember what China is actually
like at heart, even though people seem to have forgotten
to pay attention to how evil China is. I don't
think it's completely lost. I think when it comes down
to it, the statement is absolutely right. I don't think
people will accept this at all. So even if China tries,
which I think they're going to try to say that

(01:05:43):
they've found the reincarnation, that this is the Dalai Lama.
I don't think any I know, no one in Tibet's
going to buy it. I don't think anyone in China's
going to buy it. And I think most of the
rest of the world is also not going to buy it.
So it's not going to matter, right, But they still
are hooked on it. They're still totally committed to it.
This is their plan. The Dalai Lama has also expressed

(01:06:04):
concern that his reincarnation will be hijacked and politicized in
brazen meddling by the Chinese, and has publicly contemplated being
reincarnated as a woman or not at all. So this
is one of the things he said, right, might not
come back, might be a woman, might be in a
totally different region of the planet. And he's also you know,

(01:06:26):
justified that by saying, like, I don't think I'm needed
in this way anymore. Like the world has changed, So
having a Dalai Lama like this as a reincarnated being,
maybe isn't like the way that we even need to go, Like,
maybe it's really just not even what's best for people,
which is very wise right. The other option, besides being

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a woman being reborn outside of Tibet or other or
not coming back at all. The other options invoked even
more niche Buddhist ideas of emanation and opened up the
possibility of the Dalai Lama pointing a living successor before
he dies. He's rejected the legitamy of the Chinese government
proposed methods of finding his reincarnation, which involve a name
being pulled from a golden urn like a Harry Potter movie.

(01:07:14):
You're just gonna pull a name and say that this
is the mama. Oh, by the way, again, it happens
to be this person we totally control. So this emanation
idea is what I was describing earlier, that when you're
an ascended master, you don't even have to be born
and grow up and grow old and die. You can
just come through anyone at any time. You could come
through a tree, you could come through a cloud, you

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can come through a song, you can come through ten
billion songs at once. You can do anything because there's
no time or space to you and anything that is
copasetic vibration, sympathetic vibration to yours and again properly attuned
can channel you through and most of nature, not all

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of nature, is properly attuned. Human beings have the possibility
of becoming properly at tuned at any moment. There's the
thing we all have within us as a capacity, and
so he can come through anything he wants. He doesn't
have to go through the same process anymore. So he's
talked about this too. It's just basically reminding everyone, I
don't need to come back in this way. I'm not
going to leave you all. Still be with you. There's

(01:08:16):
a million ways I can be with you. You might
notice me in all kinds of ways. And and he
also pointed out like I might choose someone before I
die and say that's who's going to embody me from
now on, because this can also happen. And again, if
you're a vessel and you're tuned properly and you agree
to it fully, then that being can instead use your body.

(01:08:38):
Not impossible, Ben done before. It's just a slightly different
way than how they've been doing it. Ti bet So.
While the Dalai Lama says was once a spiritual leader
only two Tibetans, he now has a huge following, has
become something of a global celebrity, which is funny. You know.
I always talk about how like the darkness doesn't even
have a choice, the light will just use it for
its benefit. So no matter what happens, it will always

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be being used for the actual upliftment of everything everywhere.
You can't solve that. So everything serves my ultimate upliftment.
I often say, and you could say the same, everything
actually serves your ultimate upliftment. Everything you thought with bad
in your life actually did something that served your ultimate upliftment,
whether you recognized it yet or not. And this is
no different that Chinese came in. They took over by force,

(01:09:22):
it violently subjects people. They tried to destroy this religion,
destroy this spiritual leader, and instead that's how the world
found out about it. The world wouldn't maybe have ever
known about Tibetan Buddhism, and the Dalai Lama of China
didn't do that. And I'm not excusing them. I'm saying,
at least we turned it into something positive. In my opinion,

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many people started to learn about things that are at
least mind expanding. If you never settle on like I
believe in this or I do believe in Redingcarnazi or whatever.
You at least can say that's an interesting way of
looking at the world. Right, that's a different way than
I had thought of before. It's at least expanding, right,
So pretty cool. Actually, So he's over ninety now, and

(01:10:12):
he said many times in jest that if the Chinese
are really concerned about the issue of reincarnation, they should
look for Mao Zedong's reincarnation first, Dang Xiaoping's second, both
decease Chinese communist leaders, and then maybe the Dalai Lama.
And he's not wrong. They don't believe in it though,
And I will clarify here, there actually is a difference
from between rebirth and reincarnation, and only ascended masters reincarnate.

(01:10:36):
The rest of us are just reborn. Being reborn is
just like oh here I am again. I don't remember
my previous lives. I don't even know what's going on,
and write sort of the reset. And there's usually some
time between that, like you die, it might be one
hundred years, it might be twenty thirty years, who knows
how long before you are reborn. But reincarnation you're fully aware, like,

(01:11:00):
oh I'm going there, I'm doing this, and I'm gonna remember,
and we often see more and more, I'll say, we
see children who do have past life memories intact. And
that's just obvious, and you can go look into it yourself,
and as I've done talked about it, and you know,
there's tons of evidence, indisputable evidence, and you know, those

(01:11:21):
kids are a little bit closer to like technically reincarnation.
It's still not actually right, they're just actually closer to
the veil and they just got here, and so some
of it's still kind of like fresh. I've remembered a
lot of my past lives. I'm not reincarnating yet well someday, right,
But you know, to have your past life memories or

(01:11:42):
some of your past life memories isn't reincarnation either. It's
like you you are a different type of being if
you have completely transcended what is sometimes called the karmic wheel, right,
and you are acting and choosing instead of being acted
upon by karma. So again I'm not a Buddhist, but
this is actually how the universe works in my experience,

(01:12:04):
and so they're not wrong about that. I find a
lot of wisdom in Buddhism because of that. But that's
that's not where I got these understandings. I got them
from experiencing things on myself, right, and so I just
saw the reflection of what I already knew in their
belief system. And so in my experience, they are correct.
But there is that difference.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
So even when he's saying that, he's kind of joking
because like, those people wouldn't be reincarnated. Those people aren't
as sended masters. They're not beings of light, they're not
you know, people who have transcended their own karma. They're honestly,
really really flawed beings like which most of us are.
And so massid Hog and dang Jao ping A. It's
a funny joke, but he's not wrong. If you care

(01:12:47):
so much about this, find your own people, find your
own traditional people, find your own organizations people, and get
them in on it. Right. So they're preparing the groundwork
in China for the selection of the next Dalai Lama.

(01:13:08):
Chinese Commutis Party secretly assembled twenty five senior government figures
into a committee offering these Tibetans. They gathered this is
that committee we were just talking about the previous article.
They gathered these Tibetans these Lamas and offered them free
trips to China. Tell them if they support Beijing, they

(01:13:29):
won't be persecuted, so that when the time comes, these
Lamas will support the Chinese choice for the Dalai Lama.
That's how they co opted it. That's how they got
that group on their side. Like I said, Panchen Lama
also has been abducted. I don't know where that's going
to be in this article. Maybe this is it. The

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preparations appear to be a Chinese attempt to avoid repeating
the chaotic events of nineteen ninety five, when, without consulting
the Chinese government, the Dalai Lama declared that a six
year old boy, get On Chokinima was the next reincard
carnated Panshin Lama, the second most important figure into Betan Buddhism.
Three days later, Nima disappeared and has not been seen since.

(01:14:12):
That was nineteen ninety five. He said, this is the
here's here he is. I found him, and then the
Chinese government stole him, brought him to China. No one's
seen him since they have him abducted and contained. I
can't even imagine. Really a worse crime right, you can

(01:14:36):
layer in all of these horrors to it, like it's
bad enough to abduct someone's child and just take them away.
That's bad enough. Who knows what ways he's being tortured
or held or who knows re educated? Right, which you
might not understand his torture, but very clearly is all
of those things. It's another layer of horror. It's a

(01:14:58):
third and deeper lew of horror to abduct a spiritual
being from a tradition and people and never let him
go back and fulfill his roles. And this is also
again part of why the Dalai Lama is like, you guys,
I'm not coming back then, right, if he was taken,

(01:15:21):
if anyone even does locate the actual Dalai Lama, which
is perhaps hard without the Poncha Lama, then is chining
to just gonna abduct him too as a child, right,
And then what's the point? So what purpose would it serve?
The Chinese government's apparent determination to select and control the
next Dalai Lama is also seen as response to the

(01:15:41):
enduring popularity of the current spiritual leader, which has undermined
their control of Tibet. It's funny, though it is helpful
like people who have a figurehead have a little bit
more I don't know, conviction or hope or faith maybe,
But if you really have this specific religion at the
core of your heart and being, it wouldn't matter if

(01:16:02):
you had the Dalai Lama around anyway. You would still
understand your purpose. You would still understand what is good,
true and beautiful and what isn't and you wouldn't be
falling for China's subjugation and just being like, oh yeah,
it's totally hunky dory, Like it's not because of the
Dalai Lama that this resistance exists. And yes, he might
embolden it encourage it just by existing and because he

(01:16:24):
also is opposed to Chinese occupation, but that's not why
it exists. Right, They reinforce each other, They don't exist
because of each other. So even if he doesn't come back,
that resistance may still continue is another part of my
point there. So China's rejected the Dalai Lama's claim on
his successor being born outside of China. So he said

(01:16:48):
right here, would be born anywhere. I don't have to
be born here. China's like, no, that's not true. We've decided,
so I can't. It's just ridiculous, if you again understand
anything about it, it's ridiculous. There no possible way they
could control it. And they're so so broken to just
like not be able to respond to the situation at all. Right,

(01:17:09):
they just have to keep doubling down and digging deeper
and deeper into their grave they've made. This is the
sheer lack of humanity. They really don't get it, like
they should be working. These people shouldn't be rebelling. Why
don't they love us? Like it's crazy. They're crazy people.
They're crazy, tortured, controlled, unfree people. Ah So yeah, so

(01:17:36):
that's enough of that. That's all we used to see
about that. There's a new European Parliament resolution that opposes
China's interference in the Dolly Longest succession. That's cool, Good
job European Parliament. So the US the West in general
are at least saying no, you can't actually do this,
it's not appropriate, or we at least don't support you,
and we acknowledge that it's not appropriate. Correct, So that's nice, right,

(01:18:00):
good job European Union. Not a bad thing. I mean,
you know in China in general, Like I said, it's
not just Tibet, Like, the whole world is in their crosshairs,
and they're openly have stated this, and they they kind
of couch it and like no, no, no, we're just
trying to disrupt the current global hegemony of the West,

(01:18:22):
which sounds kind of neat, right. You're like, yeah, maybe
it's not cool that the West is like kind of
dominates the whole world or whatever economically and politically, and
maybe there should be a couple, you know, other contenders
and balancing of that power. But really they're already it is.
I mean, China and Russia already do balance the West.
That just is true. And I'm not a post to

(01:18:46):
there being a sort of in general more sharing of power,
right or some sort of especially decentralized republic sort of
vibe on earth, Like that'd be cool. I think that'd
be great. I think we could pull it off. That's
not what China means, not at all. What China means

(01:19:07):
is we want to disrupt your power because you're one
of the only things that has stopped us from conquering
everything we've wanted to conquer, and so if you're out
of power, then we have much more potential to take over,
for example, Australia Russia. At some point, Russia is not
Russia is a friend for now to China, but not
for long. Right, all of Asia, all of the Middle East,

(01:19:31):
the whole world. They've said this, This is not a secret,
but they'll tell you no, no, no, we just want
to disrupt the hegemony. We just want equal power, we
just want to be on the world stage. Blah blah blah.
They're actual policies are expansionist, they're violent invasions, and they

(01:19:53):
just take what they want. So China isn't actually very
shy about being really honest about what they mean by
disrupting the hegemony of the West. It's not it's not
a selfless thing. It's not a for the people of
the world for the sake of all. No, it's for China.

(01:20:15):
It's for China again. Chinese people, awesome, beautiful people. Chinese
government evil, expansionist, aggressive, violent, no respect for human rights
at all, not within their borders, not outside of their borders,
none at all. It's a it's a you know, do

(01:20:42):
the do the means? Do the ends justify the means,
And to them that ends always justify the means. There
is nothing off the table.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
And and so again, like I said, it's not just
Tibetan Buddhism, it's not just the Dalai Lama. It's not
just like the entire mystical tradition of a reincarnated ascended
master that's on the table here, which is just crazy. Again,
if you actually think about what's going on there, that's insane.
It's also Christianity deeply deeply suppressed there, violently oppressed their

(01:21:15):
fallen gong Islam. It is all religions, it's just if
it's a religion, it's a spiritual tradition, it's deeply oppressed.
So you know, they don't they don't allow Christianity officially.
The line is like, yeah, you can be a Christian,
you can even have a Bible, but if you wear

(01:21:37):
a cross, talk about Christianity, show anyone the Bible, talk
about it, then you might be rape, torture or killed.
So like, can you really be a Christian?

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
Officially yes, realistically no. Christians have been smuggling Bibles into
China forever and it's crazy, it's crazy, it's very brave.
You know. Again, in the West, you're most likely going
to be sprung by our government or protected because you're
you know, from the West or whatever. So if you
go into China and you get caught, like maybe you're

(01:22:10):
not that much danger. But the people in China who
are receiving the Bibles and distributing them, like those people
are heroes. Again, I don't care if you like Christianity
or not. You are technically allowed to have any religion
you want. That is your right as a human being.
It's not like whether you like it or not. It's
just a human being that you're allowed to do it.

(01:22:31):
Don't really care what you think about it or not.
They're allowed to be Christians and that's just all there
is to it. But they're not so huge bravery just
to have a Bible. Again, people like take so much
for granted, especially here in the United States, we're like
we're the worst counting. You can have any book you want,

(01:22:53):
you can read it, you can talk about it, you
can wear shirts about it, you can protest anything you want,
anywhere you want, you can criticize anyone you want, anywhere
you want, any time you want. You know, there's some
things that sometimes are threatened, and we keep our eye
on that, and we're good. We should you pretend that
we're this horrible country. You're a psycho. There's actually something

(01:23:14):
wrong with you. You're at least ignorant to what the rest
of the world has to often deal with. In China's
one example, so deep persecution of Christianity in China, you know,
and they say, it's like hard to even tell. This
isn't really displaying correctly, but this is from Pew research.
It's hard to even tell how many people in China

(01:23:35):
are Christians. And it's like I was saying before, it's
hard to tell how many people in China actually like
their country. It's hard to tell how many people in
China do or think anything because it's so narrow the
prescription of what you are supposed to think and say
and do and if you go outside of it. They've
seen family members disappeared and tortured. They've seen the social

(01:23:56):
credit system shut down their access to goods and services, transportation,
They've seen what happens to people who say things they're
not supposed to say. So if you ask someone there
if they're Christian, that has to be very brave person
to even answer yes, because you might not be a
trustworthy person, or someone might overhear it nineteen eighty four
exists in China. That is the way that works there.

(01:24:22):
That book isn't fiction, It wasn't fiction when it was written.
It's how many places have worked before China even And
so you don't know, you don't know these proper numbers.
And they talk about this in the Pew reasears they
try to find out how many people. There's no way
to know. To some degree, that's true with all polls
on all questions, in all places and all times. In China,
it's especially true that the numbers are super skewed. You

(01:24:44):
can't tell what's true. The government will tell you what
they think is true and help try to legitimize it,
but they don't know either. So again, technically you're allowed
to do anything, but it has to be chinafied. So
you can be Christian, but if you especially if you're
going to talk about it has to be China fied
or cynicized, as I said, if I'm not probably saying

(01:25:06):
that correctly, but it basically is this ideology that requires
all religious groups or beliefs to align their doctrines, customs,
and morality with Chinese culture, which again makes it pointless
to even say that you can practice something when what
you mean is you can practice it if it's exactly
how we already do things. He's right, you see the

(01:25:26):
problem here. So again they can say, oh, yeah, it's illegal,
it's legal, you're allowed, you're free. We have freedom of
religion here, but you don't just a lie. So all
all religions, all spiritual traditions, that's the way it is
in China. And again there's all these really amazing stories
of smuggling Bibles, in smuggling all sorts of religious texts

(01:25:50):
in and yeah, and you know, some people all might
say that's like uncool, not fair. A country has a
right to decide, like what people are exposed to. I
guess if you are a really backwards person you could
make that argument. But I think we all really understand
somewhere in our hearts and souls that like, humans are free,
whether people like it or not, whether a government can

(01:26:12):
admit it or not, Like that is true. Everyone gets
that right actually, and so I love it. I love
that that happened. And so you know, again to go
back to the Dia Lama. This is this is a
being that has reincarnated fourteen times after achieving enlightenment, after

(01:26:34):
achieving the ascension beyond karma, right, however you want to
call it, After achieving that level of consciousness, came back
knowing everything, choosing to be born again with full knowledge
of what had come before, and did that fourteen thirteen
more times, and that is now here for the fourteenth

(01:26:54):
time after achieving that, and that person who Tibet in
general loves, adores wants to follow and have as their
both cultural, spiritual and political leader, that person that soul,
I should say, has been ripped from them again in

(01:27:18):
some ways very good. The rest of the world got
to really know and see and understand this totally different
mystical tradition than what they were used to, but otherwise
has been taken. And you know, in their belief system,
this specific soul is actually Avalo Kiteshvara, which is the

(01:27:39):
Buddha of compassion. There's many Buddhas, which is to say,
there's many ascended masters, which is to say, there's many
people over history that have achieved enlightenment, and he's one
of them. And so Avelo Kiteshvara is actually the reincarnated
dahling Ama. I didn't know that until today you might
be like, who the fuck is that? It's just one

(01:28:00):
of these beings that I've been familiar with, both from
the spiritual plane and otherwise from certain teachers and teachings
as well. And that's the Teilana. And so my experience
of that kind of reinforces this emanation idea that China
may have taken this from them, this might not actually
happen again, this ancient mystical, actually reincarnated, actually enlightened being

(01:28:22):
might not return in physical form. Or if this being does,
they might be a woman or outside of Tibet or
outside of China or whatnot. But that emanation idea, which
is that you can't actually stop us. If we wanted to,
we could just move into another body right now. I
could just choose someone else and say this is me
now and then move into that body. Right. I can

(01:28:43):
do any I can come through anything at any time anywhere.
That is something I've actually experienced, because I have interacted
with Avolo Katishvara on this spiritual plane. Again, whether I don't,
you don't have to believe that or not, but that's
in my experience what has happened. And yet that person
was living in a body in Bet or you know,
not in Ti Bet, but in the world this whole time,

(01:29:05):
not something that I knew until today. So the emanation
thing is reinforced for me is like, yeah, that's actually real.
There's no time or space to these beings. They're beyond that,
and so it can be anything. It doesn't have to
be a person. It doesn't have to be one body.

(01:29:30):
It doesn't even have to be in a body. Right,
I've shared some of my experiences where a sender masters
come in a light ball or a mercaba and physically
you can see them. Other people can see them. They're
there and they can do that. They don't have to
be in a body. So you can't stop it. Right,

(01:29:53):
you can pull a name out of a golden urn.
You can say we found the Dia Lama, and you
can say this is the Dia Lama. No one's gonna
believe you. You've just it did yourself. The whole world
doesn't believe you. Definitely to be it's not going to
believe you, and that being will continue to return and
support people and emanate in various ways and guide people

(01:30:14):
and teach people as long as it wants to. There's
nothing you can do about it, and hopefully, at the
very least that reinforces your understanding that it's not the
plots and plans and schemes of men that have any

(01:30:35):
sort of consequence for your soul. For your body, sure,
for this life, shirt, for your experiences in it. Yeah,
as you're your soul unstoppable, unbreakable, right I have. Some
might have some un uncool experiences. But China might torture
you if you're in a body, right, but they can't

(01:30:58):
stop your soul from doing whatever it wants. And so
you know, I'm not sure who Julian of Norwich is,
but I've heard this a million times. I've said this
a million times, so apparently I got it from Julian
of Norwich, which is all shall be well, and all
shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.
And it's true in a short term. It's not true

(01:31:22):
in the short term. You might not feel like things
are well. Right in the short term, Tibet's been going
through just an extensive amount of suffering for decades and
decades and decades, and that's not fun. It's awful. And
in the end everything serves every soul's ultimate upliftment and enlightenment.

(01:31:49):
And I will add that when you try to stop
it and control it so hard like China does, you
are going to force even brighter and more numerous emanations
over and over again, so you will only find more
of what you think you're resisting and destroying, and it'll

(01:32:09):
serve you right and until we all remember the indestructibility
of our soul's process towards enlightenment. Travel well, aim for balance,
and always look inside first.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
Yeah raccaney, just the rat machine.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Yeah chicken, great bearded.

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
Patt My motherfucker run No, yeah, cool.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
In the place with my FISTO mean it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:54):
Not resist them, no, s that they clean us and
lead us. This is just the photo of the process. Man,
just watch this, because this it's about to get crazy
like a mispuit. We lost it, toss it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:05):
Let's start it again because now with technology, with smart
of men, the women, just as the beginning out the head.
If this is the message of hope that I said,
look on your tv ins and culture of death, you'll
keep a line to the very last crap.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
We keep on.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
Striving and spreading the truth, tart and survive in this
world full of youth.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
The door is closed.

Speaker 5 (01:33:29):
See the old world instead, let's tem of nator. Understanding
is dead. I'll include you and you include being. Let's
seek when we can fill with some positivity.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
Let's go to move it too slow.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
Let me see your hands and you know what I know,
come on.

Speaker 6 (01:33:52):
Rap like mummy, ain't no dummy in my rhymeman started
glowing free style and now they rhyming. Now silence and
with the violence by he's powering with the Grayberry pirate
on your TV in four K three D virtue more reality,
casual to.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
Your urban warfare.

Speaker 6 (01:34:07):
I know, but I'm not scared, just prepared and aware,
shining my light through the tunnel of hope into the rope.
But I'm gonna give it one more pull till the
family is full. Take the bull by the horns and
lead it to the slaughter. That would be harder and
you would be softer. Sometimes I'm a monster, and you
for have an impost which is champagne and lobster. This

(01:34:29):
royal tea the way it was supposed to be. Hopefully
the new yor opens and the old one closes with
way more focus and growth to motus and the truth
that they should have told.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Us glued to then screens. It's a plot to drop
the IQ. Fighting amongst each other, Oh, the rumors that
don't like you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
We're furs trapped the melanchol with the wood ones a
Holly's adjustions out of flicker weights to camelflot a holly
a tempt the mental probbery, execute it softly.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
The popper see this, vakay and walk the taco put
their hands up to touch the acasta because you know,
deep down to something bigger than your wallet. Everyone got
a gift, everyone got a light. They want you to
forget that ish because they can't get them to break
the positive. But Russian takes you pass the side shackles
from the sewer's analeis into moving castles.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Hoot disastles really served with an exposed Achilles surgeon around
the corner lurk in the proof of sension.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Trump's perversion learned them to catch fishes and unplumb the signal.
Show on the simpletons. Now a build the fucking temples
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