September 2, 2025 • 17 mins
Welcome back to Romance Recs for season three! Devonnie and Jordan are here to re-introduce themselves and what to expect for season three. Full of romance book recommendations broken down by genre and tropes, deep dives, and even author interviews, this season is sure to be the best yet! So whether you've been here from the beginning or are just discovering the highly entertaining bookish banter that is Romance Recs, buckle up!
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Jordan (00:01):
Welcome to Romance Res.
We're romance obsessed besties,sharing book res, broken down by
genres and tropes so you can besure you're getting exactly what
you want out of your next read.
Hello, I'm Jordan.
I am currently reading.
The Perfect Unicorn by KJBradford, something Wicked by
(00:23):
Fallon Ballard, and I'mlistening to Ninth House by Lee
Bargo.
Devonnie (00:31):
Hello, my little lovelies.
This is Dev, uh, Jordan.
I didn't know you were readingso many books.
I, too am reading so many books,including the perfect unicorn.
Uh, so.
Jordan (00:41):
Arcs,
Devonnie (00:42):
Yeah.
Arcs.
I know they're arcs.
Exactly.
I am also listening to TamingKain by Tessa Stone.
I am like literally 15 minutesto the end of the Ever King by
LJ Andrews.
And then I just finished likeyesterday Love Arranged by
(01:04):
Lauren Asher and Five Star read.
Love that so much.
Can't wait to talk about thatmore on another episode, but.
Yeah, we're, we got a lot ofbooks to read.
We're like right in the middleof it.
Yeah,
Jordan (01:15):
it's like we're avid readers or something.
Devonnie (01:18):
I know.
Oh my gosh.
It's almost like we do a podcastabout books where we share our
recs.
Jordan (01:22):
Welcome to season three, everybody.
Devonnie (01:24):
Yay.
Applause, applause.
Jordan (01:27):
doing here today?
Dev?
Devonnie (01:29):
And you know, well we thought, we thought we would
come on and just kinda remindyou guys about why we're here,
what we're doing, who we are.
And why you should continuelistening to us because we've
got plenty of great things instore for you guys.
We love sharing our book recswith you.
We love talking about books andwe love building this community.
So that's what this episode.
(01:50):
Introduction is gonna be aboutkind of just reintroducing
ourselves, our goals for the podand, who we are as readers.
I know you guys are probablylike, wait, there's like a voice
missing.
If you listen to our previoustwo seasons, you would know that
we had a third book bestie withus, Christina, and for right
now, Christina's stepping awayfrom the podcast.
She has some things going on, sowe're just gonna handle it.
(02:11):
Me and Jordan.
And yeah, we're still gonnabring as many recs if Christina
wants to tell us a re a book'cause we're, we are still very
active in our group chat, but ifshe wants to send some books,
I'll be sure to like, mentionwhat she's reading and loving.
Uh, but yeah.
You still got us?
Jordan (02:25):
yeah, she hasn't gone far either.
If she has the time because.
Christina has a very largefamily.
Christina has a lot ofresponsibility.
A lot going on, so she's gonnapop in when she can, That's just
where we're all at in life rightnow.
But season three I think, isgonna look a little bit
different.
I mean, we're still here withthe same kind of content, but
(02:46):
it's gonna be
Devonnie (02:48):
We're gonna switch it up a little bit.
We're just gonna, yeah, andwe'll tell you guys more.
And also speaking of, we'll tellyou guys more if you aren't
already.
Pause this right now, bestie.
Pause it because you need to gofollow our substack.
What are you doing?
Please follow and subscribe toour substack because here's the
thing, Substack is gonna findout big news, any sneak peeks,
(03:09):
any behind the scenes thingsthey're gonna find out before
anyone else.
So we wanna make sure that youare getting your premium content
head on over to substack.
A newsletter's probably gonna goout once a month, twice a month
if we're feeling spicy,
Jordan (03:22):
If we have a lot of extra content.
Devonnie (03:25):
Uh, but yeah, we wanna make sure you're up to date.
So head to our Instagram.
If you click on the link in ourbio, it'll take you right there
to subscribe to our substack.
Okay.
Jordan (03:33):
and there will be chances for you in the near
future, that we're working on tosubscribe in a different way.
So pay for extra episodes, extracontent when we do interviews,
which.
We've been doing some pretty biginterviews
Devonnie (03:47):
I know.
Have y'all, have y'all beenlistening?
Right?
Jordan (03:50):
but if you want more, we're gonna do a little behind
the scenes with authors movingforward and we're just so
excited.
But enough about that.
Like
Devonnie (03:58):
I know.
Jordan (03:59):
as, as readers?
Why should you trust us?
What kind of book recs are yougonna get from us Dev?
Who are you?
Who are you as a
Devonnie (04:06):
Um, who, okay, so here's the thing.
Bestie.
You want a contemporary romance.
You're looking for small town.
You want a yearning man, like aman who will yearn.
That's what I'm gonna give you.
That's what I'm gonna bring tothe table.
Do I do love some romanticcomedies as well?
Uh, but my like creme de lacreme is probably gonna be a, a
(04:28):
contemporary small town romance.
That's just where I thrive,where I feel like the men do the
most yearning.
I know we do get them in thefantasy world.
And don't get me wrong, I loveme a romantic.
Toss me in there, babe.
Toss some magic, some wings,whatever you gotta do.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
Luther, my man.
Uh, but yeah, I still loveromantics, but for me, that's
(04:49):
what you're, if you're lookingfor those kind of vibes, and if
you've listened to uspreviously, I think you kind of
get my drift.
You kind of see the books that Ilike to read, but for sure,
contemporary, girly, small townromance, um, billionaire,
because please don't be broke, Ibeg.
Like, I have to, I have to dealwith the struggle in real life.
(05:10):
Don't bring it into my books.
Please.
Good Lord, have money.
Billionaire me.
Okay.
All right.
I have, I am not meant tosuffer.
I don't, I did not come to life.
Come into this life to labor.
You know what I mean?
So I wanna read my girls beingloved down, love me.
An indie author at that.
That's the vibe, babe.
You, you pick it up when I'mputting down that is the vibe.
Okay.
Jordan (05:30):
I have it.
I have it.
I got it.
Thank you.
I do love that.
Devonnie (05:34):
I gotta let them know.
Please don't'cause why booksbeing broke.
That's crazy.
The women could be broke though.
The women could be
Jordan (05:41):
Well, the women can do no wrong.
So I mean,
Devonnie (05:43):
yeah.
However they come to me is fine.
But the man, I'm sorry sir.
You better cope with a littlemoney.
We not gonna be broke togetherin the books.
No, thank you.
Jordan (05:52):
Mm-hmm.
And with me, uh, I'm a littlebit different.
I like my men, I'd say generallydarker.
Uh, I like, their moral compassa little more questioning when
it comes to my men, I just needthem obsessed.
Okay.
I am where I thrive, I need abully.
(06:13):
Romance.
Ideally set in a fantasy world.
At an academy.
At a university.
Give me of age, give of age,please.
If they're not, I just changeall of the ages.
Don't get me started, but I needa bully romance.
Okay.
If it's why choose even betterif it has amazing narrators,
(06:36):
like get, I don't know why Iactually went hand on throat
with that, but like, we'regonna, I'm gonna,
Devonnie (06:41):
she did.
Jordan (06:42):
I subconsciously, man.
Okay.
That's where I, that's where Ilive my best life.
Okay.
But the one thing, my book, allof my books have to have is a
strong FMC.
I am so much more focused on myFMCs actually.
Like I love the men, but where Ireally obsess is the women, and
(07:06):
I just need them to have astrong backbone.
I don't care where they're from.
I don't care what they're doing,as long as they have that strong
backbone and they expect thosemen to grovel if they need to.
Devonnie (07:17):
Mm-hmm.
Jordan (07:18):
I love good grovel.
Okay.
I love romantic.
I do contemporary.
Sometimes I do.
I have found that the men reallyneed to be assholes if they're
contemporary, like the goldenretriever type.
I, I, I have that in real life.
I don't need more like you doyou, you know?
(07:38):
I
Devonnie (07:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We did a little
Jordan (07:42):
I need an asshole.
Devonnie (07:43):
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Jordan (07:45):
I mean, yeah.
Devonnie (07:47):
That's a gist.
That's our reading style.
And I feel like we've fluctuatedtoo since we started the podcast
to now like our styles havechanged.
The things we're reading havechanged our expectations from
our stories and our narrators ifwe're listening, have changed.
So yeah.
But I think the, the key staplesof like what we expect from the
men me yearning, you bully.
(08:08):
And groveling, you know, um,the, the female main characters
are the same.
I, one thing about me, I willdnf a book real fast if she
starts pissing me off.
If she starts pissing me off.
Her inner monologue is tooself-deprecating.
'cause I'm a self-deprecating,girly, like, we love to poke
fun.
But baby, if that's your naturalbelief, that is your state of
being.
I'm a DNF.
I will DNF.
And I don't know about you guyswho are listening, but I don't
(08:31):
have a problem.
DN Fing a book
Jordan (08:32):
Mm-hmm.
Devonnie (08:34):
with no remorse.
'cause life is so short andthere are so many books.
The TBR is in hell, perpetuallyin hell.
Okay.
I have so many books to
Jordan (08:42):
And we're here to put yours in hell if it's not
already in the best waypossible, because that's where
all the fun happens.
Devonnie (08:50):
We love going to hell.
Jordan (08:51):
Hmm.
Take me there.
Oh, demons.
That's another
Devonnie (08:54):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
A nice demon romance.
And I mean, we got some bookscoming out in a
Jordan (08:59):
Demon romance.
Devonnie (08:59):
am.
Jordan (09:01):
Just nice.
Ooh,
Devonnie (09:06):
I actually, yeah, I don't think I've read a nice
demon row.
I feel like all the demons havebeen assholes with the books
I've read.
None of them like a goldenretriever demon.
Oh, I take that back.
Remember when I was doing likethe cozy fantasy ones, all of
the demons were nice.
They were cutesy.
Jordan (09:23):
Basically just stick with us.
We've got something foreveryone.
And that's another thing that wesay all the time.
There is a book for everyreader, and there's a reader for
every book.
If we personally did not likeit, if we did, left it, we won't
mention it on here.
If we.
If there was something wrong orproblematic with it, we're just
not gonna mention it on here.
We're not going to, we try to doour due diligence.
(09:46):
We're gonna.
Make the decisions that we makefor ourselves as, as readers,
and we hope that you can do yourown too, right?
That's your own choice.
Um, but just there's gonna besomething for you and we're
always gonna say why you mightlike something
Devonnie (10:02):
Yes.
Jordan (10:03):
you can decide for yourself.
Devonnie (10:04):
Mm-hmm.
Exactly.
True words have never beenspoken.
Um, I feel like at this point inthe show, at this point in the
programming, we need to pick aquote that like defines us as a
reader expectation vibe, likewhat we're looking for.
When you crack a spine,
Jordan (10:24):
Hmm.
I love
Devonnie (10:26):
are you expecting?
I don't, I, that was like sohypothetical.
I just wish you would stop thatcrime in jail.
Like, why are you cracking thespines in your book?
Do not crack the spine in frontof me.
Jordan.
Jordan.
Do not crack this book spine infront of me.
Why are you evil?
Jordan (10:41):
of my favorite books ever.
Five
Devonnie (10:44):
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Five
Jordan (10:45):
Douglas.
Um, I haven't read this physicalcopy'cause I'm gonna like give
it away or something, but like,I'm still gonna
Devonnie (10:52):
Oh,
Jordan (10:53):
so
Devonnie (10:54):
y'all could have seen that.
That was just so gross.
Oh, don't fold it back likethat.
What is wrong with you?
Jordan (11:01):
then you can just read it like this.
Devonnie (11:03):
I'm calling the cops.
Jordan (11:05):
Okay.
Go.
No, actually no.
I don't want the cops here.
Devonnie (11:10):
Yeah.
Jordan (11:10):
I was like, go for it.
No, no,
Devonnie (11:12):
No.
Jordan (11:13):
Call me the fire
Devonnie (11:14):
Different uniform.
Yeah, different uniform.
Okay.
I have one and if you'velistened to the podcast before,
you will have heard this, buthonestly, I'm 10 toes down for
this male character, but alsofor this author.
Um.
I love her down.
I fear, um, no I don't fear.
(11:35):
I will loudly proclaim it fromthe rooftops.
I am obsessed with the one, theonly pen.
Cole,
Jordan (11:41):
Woo.
Devonnie (11:42):
interviewed Pen Cole in the past, so if you wanna
listen to that episode, go onback to season two.
Um, yeah, we got a chance tohang out.
Talk to her.
Jordan (11:50):
did, but she also go, if you haven't listened, go listen.
Because she gave us an exclusivequote from Burn that I actually
haven't seen anywhere else.
So sorry,
Devonnie (11:59):
Yes.
Yes, that's, that's very true.
Um, so yeah, if you love PinkCole as much as we do, then
please go listen to that episodeif you wanna hear more.
But this, um, quote specificallyis something Luther tells dim in
heat.
And yes, it's a Luther quote.
It's very much him.
It tracks, it's the story.
It's perfect.
(12:19):
But this is my expectation forevery MMC that I read.
Like this is the vibe that Ineed you to bring to the table.
You ready?
Here we go.
Desire.
He gave a dark throaty laugh.
Desire is a pathetic word forwhat I feel for you.
I require you, I am sustained byyou.
You are the flame that fuels myfire.
(12:40):
Don't you dare question that,not for a second.
You see what I'm saying?
You see what I'm saying?
You see what I'm saying?
Because that could be applied tocontemporary, to fantasy.
It doesn't matter if, if this isburn the world energy.
This is touch her and die.
This could literally be onehorse.
You know what I'm saying?
(13:01):
It's, it's anything andeverything.
It's applicable to anysituation.
And that's just, that's theexpectation I have for my mmcs.
So Penn, thank you so much forwriting the love of my life.
Like, I'm so obsessed with him.
I can't wait to read Bird.
Um, but yeah, I think that sumsme up as like a reader, what I'm
looking for in my man.
Jordan (13:21):
Yeah, that's fair.
Fair.
I will give everyone only oneguess.
If you have listened to justabout any episode here, I will
give you one guess as to whowrote the book that I chose.
Go ahead.
Devonnie (13:36):
Well,
Jordan (13:36):
you haven't said it yet, you Oh yeah.
Go for it.
Yeah.
Devonnie (13:39):
um, I think it's gonna be, um, oh my gosh, I'm just
gonna take a stab in the dark.
Uh, Caroline Peckham and SusanValenti.
Jordan (13:47):
Yes.
Okay.
And it's for my favorite book inthe Zodiac Academy series.
Um, cursed Fates.
You guys, I'm obsessed withCaroline Peckham and Suzanne
Valenti We have not interviewedthem, but if you have, I would
really like to.
Okay.
That is, that is my white horse.
That is my, anyways, this.
Devonnie (14:10):
let us know so we can like make all of Jordan's dreams
come true.
Please.
I am begging you.
She loves them.
Jordan (14:15):
Yes, I do.
I do.
I just wanna thank them forenriching my life.
Anyways, I digress.
This quote is also by myfavorite mailman character.
It, I'm not gonna tell you whoit is because if you haven't
read Zodiac Academy, I don'twanna give anything away because
some of the loved interests area mystery I know it doesn't
(14:37):
change anything that it can'tchange anything he growled, but
I'm going to prove it to you.
I'm going to do everything I canto make it up to you for the
rest of my life, if that's whatit takes.
I'll never forgive myself forbringing this curse on us, and
I'm never going to stop lovingyou either.
Devonnie (14:56):
Hmm.
Jordan (14:58):
This is the beginning of groveling.
Okay.
Devonnie (15:01):
Did I read that one?
I read that one,
Jordan (15:03):
You read it?
Devonnie (15:05):
yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I think I, I could pictureexactly where that happens.
Oh, yeah.
That's actually a really goodquote that that's very much in
line with the vibe, yearn,grovel,
Jordan (15:15):
You're, yeah.
Devonnie (15:16):
rest of your life doing it.
Jordan (15:18):
You were so obsessed, but you knew you couldn't have
her, so you destroyed her world.
Because if you can't have her,no one's going to and you're
just, you know,
Devonnie (15:25):
Right?
Jordan (15:26):
It's just perfect.
Devonnie (15:27):
Mm-hmm.
Jordan (15:27):
So that's who
Devonnie (15:28):
And look at that.
You guys already got.
Maybe one quote, but thosequotes are attached to series.
Do you, do you understand whatwe just did for you?
We just gave you multiple booksto go read.
If you have not read eitherZodiac Academy or the Kindreds
Curse Saga by Pen Cole, you.
What are you waiting for?
Now is your time.
(15:49):
This right here is your moment.
Yeah, this is your sign.
Pick it up.
Look, tell us what you think.
We love talking about thesebooks, so Yeah.
We'll never shy away from aconversation to talk about
either of these books.
Jordan (16:00):
And also this season we're gonna try to cut things
shorter.
We're gonna try to keep this toapproximately your drive to
work.
Assuming you're driving to work.
My drive to work is walking intothe kitchen.
So, so that,
Devonnie (16:13):
Screaming.
I'm screaming.
Jordan (16:16):
Anyways, uh, dev, where can they find us?
How can they support us?
What can they look forward to?
Devonnie (16:22):
Of course you can follow us on social media, on
Instagram.
We are romance recs pod.
We are also on TikTok under thesame name, though we're not.
I mean, we post some there, um,some things there.
But for the bulk of our contentand stuff, it's gonna be on
Instagram.
And then from there, there'sactually a link in a bio that'll
take you to wherever else weare.
(16:42):
You can catch the podcastwherever you listen to podcasts.
So Apple Music, Spotify.
We're gonna be there babes.
I promise.
Just search our name.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
And then, um, of course, like Isaid, remember to sign up for
that Substack.
You're not gonna wanna miss theinformation we have in there,
all the sneak peeks.
So just get ahead of it.
Go sign up right now.
As soon as you finish thisepisode, just go sign up so you
already know you're signed up.
(17:04):
Okay?
You get a cute little welcomeemail and yeah.
Jordan (17:08):
We'll just have a great time and thanks follow us along
for season three.
Devonnie (17:13):
yeah.
We'll let you know when thatfirst episode drops.
Why don't you take a guess as towhat it's gonna be?
And let us know in the commentson Instagram.
Thank you.
Jordan (17:22):
Bye.
Devonnie (17:23):
Bye.
Welcome to Romance Res.
We're romance obsessed besties,sharing book res, broken down by
genres and tropes so you can besure you're getting exactly what
you want out of your next read.
Hello, I'm Jordan.
I am currently reading.
The Perfect Unicorn by KJBradford, something Wicked by
(00:23):
Fallon Ballard, and I'mlistening to Ninth House by Lee
Bargo.
Devonnie (00:31):
Hello, my little lovelies.
This is Dev, uh, Jordan.
I didn't know you were readingso many books.
I, too am reading so many books,including the perfect unicorn.
Uh, so.
Jordan (00:41):
Arcs,
Devonnie (00:42):
Yeah.
Arcs.
I know they're arcs.
Exactly.
I am also listening to TamingKain by Tessa Stone.
I am like literally 15 minutesto the end of the Ever King by
LJ Andrews.
And then I just finished likeyesterday Love Arranged by
(01:04):
Lauren Asher and Five Star read.
Love that so much.
Can't wait to talk about thatmore on another episode, but.
Yeah, we're, we got a lot ofbooks to read.
We're like right in the middleof it.
Yeah,
Jordan (01:15):
it's like we're avid readers or something.
Devonnie (01:18):
I know.
Oh my gosh.
It's almost like we do a podcastabout books where we share our
recs.
Jordan (01:22):
Welcome to season three, everybody.
Devonnie (01:24):
Yay.
Applause, applause.
Jordan (01:27):
doing here today?
Dev?
Devonnie (01:29):
And you know, well we thought, we thought we would
come on and just kinda remindyou guys about why we're here,
what we're doing, who we are.
And why you should continuelistening to us because we've
got plenty of great things instore for you guys.
We love sharing our book recswith you.
We love talking about books andwe love building this community.
So that's what this episode.
(01:50):
Introduction is gonna be aboutkind of just reintroducing
ourselves, our goals for the podand, who we are as readers.
I know you guys are probablylike, wait, there's like a voice
missing.
If you listen to our previoustwo seasons, you would know that
we had a third book bestie withus, Christina, and for right
now, Christina's stepping awayfrom the podcast.
She has some things going on, sowe're just gonna handle it.
(02:11):
Me and Jordan.
And yeah, we're still gonnabring as many recs if Christina
wants to tell us a re a book'cause we're, we are still very
active in our group chat, but ifshe wants to send some books,
I'll be sure to like, mentionwhat she's reading and loving.
Uh, but yeah.
You still got us?
Jordan (02:25):
yeah, she hasn't gone far either.
If she has the time because.
Christina has a very largefamily.
Christina has a lot ofresponsibility.
A lot going on, so she's gonnapop in when she can, That's just
where we're all at in life rightnow.
But season three I think, isgonna look a little bit
different.
I mean, we're still here withthe same kind of content, but
(02:46):
it's gonna be
Devonnie (02:48):
We're gonna switch it up a little bit.
We're just gonna, yeah, andwe'll tell you guys more.
And also speaking of, we'll tellyou guys more if you aren't
already.
Pause this right now, bestie.
Pause it because you need to gofollow our substack.
What are you doing?
Please follow and subscribe toour substack because here's the
thing, Substack is gonna findout big news, any sneak peeks,
(03:09):
any behind the scenes thingsthey're gonna find out before
anyone else.
So we wanna make sure that youare getting your premium content
head on over to substack.
A newsletter's probably gonna goout once a month, twice a month
if we're feeling spicy,
Jordan (03:22):
If we have a lot of extra content.
Devonnie (03:25):
Uh, but yeah, we wanna make sure you're up to date.
So head to our Instagram.
If you click on the link in ourbio, it'll take you right there
to subscribe to our substack.
Okay.
Jordan (03:33):
and there will be chances for you in the near
future, that we're working on tosubscribe in a different way.
So pay for extra episodes, extracontent when we do interviews,
which.
We've been doing some pretty biginterviews
Devonnie (03:47):
I know.
Have y'all, have y'all beenlistening?
Right?
Jordan (03:50):
but if you want more, we're gonna do a little behind
the scenes with authors movingforward and we're just so
excited.
But enough about that.
Like
Devonnie (03:58):
I know.
Jordan (03:59):
as, as readers?
Why should you trust us?
What kind of book recs are yougonna get from us Dev?
Who are you?
Who are you as a
Devonnie (04:06):
Um, who, okay, so here's the thing.
Bestie.
You want a contemporary romance.
You're looking for small town.
You want a yearning man, like aman who will yearn.
That's what I'm gonna give you.
That's what I'm gonna bring tothe table.
Do I do love some romanticcomedies as well?
Uh, but my like creme de lacreme is probably gonna be a, a
(04:28):
contemporary small town romance.
That's just where I thrive,where I feel like the men do the
most yearning.
I know we do get them in thefantasy world.
And don't get me wrong, I loveme a romantic.
Toss me in there, babe.
Toss some magic, some wings,whatever you gotta do.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
Luther, my man.
Uh, but yeah, I still loveromantics, but for me, that's
(04:49):
what you're, if you're lookingfor those kind of vibes, and if
you've listened to uspreviously, I think you kind of
get my drift.
You kind of see the books that Ilike to read, but for sure,
contemporary, girly, small townromance, um, billionaire,
because please don't be broke, Ibeg.
Like, I have to, I have to dealwith the struggle in real life.
(05:10):
Don't bring it into my books.
Please.
Good Lord, have money.
Billionaire me.
Okay.
All right.
I have, I am not meant tosuffer.
I don't, I did not come to life.
Come into this life to labor.
You know what I mean?
So I wanna read my girls beingloved down, love me.
An indie author at that.
That's the vibe, babe.
You, you pick it up when I'mputting down that is the vibe.
Okay.
Jordan (05:30):
I have it.
I have it.
I got it.
Thank you.
I do love that.
Devonnie (05:34):
I gotta let them know.
Please don't'cause why booksbeing broke.
That's crazy.
The women could be broke though.
The women could be
Jordan (05:41):
Well, the women can do no wrong.
So I mean,
Devonnie (05:43):
yeah.
However they come to me is fine.
But the man, I'm sorry sir.
You better cope with a littlemoney.
We not gonna be broke togetherin the books.
No, thank you.
Jordan (05:52):
Mm-hmm.
And with me, uh, I'm a littlebit different.
I like my men, I'd say generallydarker.
Uh, I like, their moral compassa little more questioning when
it comes to my men, I just needthem obsessed.
Okay.
I am where I thrive, I need abully.
(06:13):
Romance.
Ideally set in a fantasy world.
At an academy.
At a university.
Give me of age, give of age,please.
If they're not, I just changeall of the ages.
Don't get me started, but I needa bully romance.
Okay.
If it's why choose even betterif it has amazing narrators,
(06:36):
like get, I don't know why Iactually went hand on throat
with that, but like, we'regonna, I'm gonna,
Devonnie (06:41):
she did.
Jordan (06:42):
I subconsciously, man.
Okay.
That's where I, that's where Ilive my best life.
Okay.
But the one thing, my book, allof my books have to have is a
strong FMC.
I am so much more focused on myFMCs actually.
Like I love the men, but where Ireally obsess is the women, and
(07:06):
I just need them to have astrong backbone.
I don't care where they're from.
I don't care what they're doing,as long as they have that strong
backbone and they expect thosemen to grovel if they need to.
Devonnie (07:17):
Mm-hmm.
Jordan (07:18):
I love good grovel.
Okay.
I love romantic.
I do contemporary.
Sometimes I do.
I have found that the men reallyneed to be assholes if they're
contemporary, like the goldenretriever type.
I, I, I have that in real life.
I don't need more like you doyou, you know?
(07:38):
I
Devonnie (07:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We did a little
Jordan (07:42):
I need an asshole.
Devonnie (07:43):
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Jordan (07:45):
I mean, yeah.
Devonnie (07:47):
That's a gist.
That's our reading style.
And I feel like we've fluctuatedtoo since we started the podcast
to now like our styles havechanged.
The things we're reading havechanged our expectations from
our stories and our narrators ifwe're listening, have changed.
So yeah.
But I think the, the key staplesof like what we expect from the
men me yearning, you bully.
(08:08):
And groveling, you know, um,the, the female main characters
are the same.
I, one thing about me, I willdnf a book real fast if she
starts pissing me off.
If she starts pissing me off.
Her inner monologue is tooself-deprecating.
'cause I'm a self-deprecating,girly, like, we love to poke
fun.
But baby, if that's your naturalbelief, that is your state of
being.
I'm a DNF.
I will DNF.
And I don't know about you guyswho are listening, but I don't
(08:31):
have a problem.
DN Fing a book
Jordan (08:32):
Mm-hmm.
Devonnie (08:34):
with no remorse.
'cause life is so short andthere are so many books.
The TBR is in hell, perpetuallyin hell.
Okay.
I have so many books to
Jordan (08:42):
And we're here to put yours in hell if it's not
already in the best waypossible, because that's where
all the fun happens.
Devonnie (08:50):
We love going to hell.
Jordan (08:51):
Hmm.
Take me there.
Oh, demons.
That's another
Devonnie (08:54):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
A nice demon romance.
And I mean, we got some bookscoming out in a
Jordan (08:59):
Demon romance.
Devonnie (08:59):
am.
Jordan (09:01):
Just nice.
Ooh,
Devonnie (09:06):
I actually, yeah, I don't think I've read a nice
demon row.
I feel like all the demons havebeen assholes with the books
I've read.
None of them like a goldenretriever demon.
Oh, I take that back.
Remember when I was doing likethe cozy fantasy ones, all of
the demons were nice.
They were cutesy.
Jordan (09:23):
Basically just stick with us.
We've got something foreveryone.
And that's another thing that wesay all the time.
There is a book for everyreader, and there's a reader for
every book.
If we personally did not likeit, if we did, left it, we won't
mention it on here.
If we.
If there was something wrong orproblematic with it, we're just
not gonna mention it on here.
We're not going to, we try to doour due diligence.
(09:46):
We're gonna.
Make the decisions that we makefor ourselves as, as readers,
and we hope that you can do yourown too, right?
That's your own choice.
Um, but just there's gonna besomething for you and we're
always gonna say why you mightlike something
Devonnie (10:02):
Yes.
Jordan (10:03):
you can decide for yourself.
Devonnie (10:04):
Mm-hmm.
Exactly.
True words have never beenspoken.
Um, I feel like at this point inthe show, at this point in the
programming, we need to pick aquote that like defines us as a
reader expectation vibe, likewhat we're looking for.
When you crack a spine,
Jordan (10:24):
Hmm.
I love
Devonnie (10:26):
are you expecting?
I don't, I, that was like sohypothetical.
I just wish you would stop thatcrime in jail.
Like, why are you cracking thespines in your book?
Do not crack the spine in frontof me.
Jordan.
Jordan.
Do not crack this book spine infront of me.
Why are you evil?
Jordan (10:41):
of my favorite books ever.
Five
Devonnie (10:44):
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Five
Jordan (10:45):
Douglas.
Um, I haven't read this physicalcopy'cause I'm gonna like give
it away or something, but like,I'm still gonna
Devonnie (10:52):
Oh,
Jordan (10:53):
so
Devonnie (10:54):
y'all could have seen that.
That was just so gross.
Oh, don't fold it back likethat.
What is wrong with you?
Jordan (11:01):
then you can just read it like this.
Devonnie (11:03):
I'm calling the cops.
Jordan (11:05):
Okay.
Go.
No, actually no.
I don't want the cops here.
Devonnie (11:10):
Yeah.
Jordan (11:10):
I was like, go for it.
No, no,
Devonnie (11:12):
No.
Jordan (11:13):
Call me the fire
Devonnie (11:14):
Different uniform.
Yeah, different uniform.
Okay.
I have one and if you'velistened to the podcast before,
you will have heard this, buthonestly, I'm 10 toes down for
this male character, but alsofor this author.
Um.
I love her down.
I fear, um, no I don't fear.
(11:35):
I will loudly proclaim it fromthe rooftops.
I am obsessed with the one, theonly pen.
Cole,
Jordan (11:41):
Woo.
Devonnie (11:42):
interviewed Pen Cole in the past, so if you wanna
listen to that episode, go onback to season two.
Um, yeah, we got a chance tohang out.
Talk to her.
Jordan (11:50):
did, but she also go, if you haven't listened, go listen.
Because she gave us an exclusivequote from Burn that I actually
haven't seen anywhere else.
So sorry,
Devonnie (11:59):
Yes.
Yes, that's, that's very true.
Um, so yeah, if you love PinkCole as much as we do, then
please go listen to that episodeif you wanna hear more.
But this, um, quote specificallyis something Luther tells dim in
heat.
And yes, it's a Luther quote.
It's very much him.
It tracks, it's the story.
It's perfect.
(12:19):
But this is my expectation forevery MMC that I read.
Like this is the vibe that Ineed you to bring to the table.
You ready?
Here we go.
Desire.
He gave a dark throaty laugh.
Desire is a pathetic word forwhat I feel for you.
I require you, I am sustained byyou.
You are the flame that fuels myfire.
(12:40):
Don't you dare question that,not for a second.
You see what I'm saying?
You see what I'm saying?
You see what I'm saying?
Because that could be applied tocontemporary, to fantasy.
It doesn't matter if, if this isburn the world energy.
This is touch her and die.
This could literally be onehorse.
You know what I'm saying?
(13:01):
It's, it's anything andeverything.
It's applicable to anysituation.
And that's just, that's theexpectation I have for my mmcs.
So Penn, thank you so much forwriting the love of my life.
Like, I'm so obsessed with him.
I can't wait to read Bird.
Um, but yeah, I think that sumsme up as like a reader, what I'm
looking for in my man.
Jordan (13:21):
Yeah, that's fair.
Fair.
I will give everyone only oneguess.
If you have listened to justabout any episode here, I will
give you one guess as to whowrote the book that I chose.
Go ahead.
Devonnie (13:36):
Well,
Jordan (13:36):
you haven't said it yet, you Oh yeah.
Go for it.
Yeah.
Devonnie (13:39):
um, I think it's gonna be, um, oh my gosh, I'm just
gonna take a stab in the dark.
Uh, Caroline Peckham and SusanValenti.
Jordan (13:47):
Yes.
Okay.
And it's for my favorite book inthe Zodiac Academy series.
Um, cursed Fates.
You guys, I'm obsessed withCaroline Peckham and Suzanne
Valenti We have not interviewedthem, but if you have, I would
really like to.
Okay.
That is, that is my white horse.
That is my, anyways, this.
Devonnie (14:10):
let us know so we can like make all of Jordan's dreams
come true.
Please.
I am begging you.
She loves them.
Jordan (14:15):
Yes, I do.
I do.
I just wanna thank them forenriching my life.
Anyways, I digress.
This quote is also by myfavorite mailman character.
It, I'm not gonna tell you whoit is because if you haven't
read Zodiac Academy, I don'twanna give anything away because
some of the loved interests area mystery I know it doesn't
(14:37):
change anything that it can'tchange anything he growled, but
I'm going to prove it to you.
I'm going to do everything I canto make it up to you for the
rest of my life, if that's whatit takes.
I'll never forgive myself forbringing this curse on us, and
I'm never going to stop lovingyou either.
Devonnie (14:56):
Hmm.
Jordan (14:58):
This is the beginning of groveling.
Okay.
Devonnie (15:01):
Did I read that one?
I read that one,
Jordan (15:03):
You read it?
Devonnie (15:05):
yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I think I, I could pictureexactly where that happens.
Oh, yeah.
That's actually a really goodquote that that's very much in
line with the vibe, yearn,grovel,
Jordan (15:15):
You're, yeah.
Devonnie (15:16):
rest of your life doing it.
Jordan (15:18):
You were so obsessed, but you knew you couldn't have
her, so you destroyed her world.
Because if you can't have her,no one's going to and you're
just, you know,
Devonnie (15:25):
Right?
Jordan (15:26):
It's just perfect.
Devonnie (15:27):
Mm-hmm.
Jordan (15:27):
So that's who
Devonnie (15:28):
And look at that.
You guys already got.
Maybe one quote, but thosequotes are attached to series.
Do you, do you understand whatwe just did for you?
We just gave you multiple booksto go read.
If you have not read eitherZodiac Academy or the Kindreds
Curse Saga by Pen Cole, you.
What are you waiting for?
Now is your time.
(15:49):
This right here is your moment.
Yeah, this is your sign.
Pick it up.
Look, tell us what you think.
We love talking about thesebooks, so Yeah.
We'll never shy away from aconversation to talk about
either of these books.
Jordan (16:00):
And also this season we're gonna try to cut things
shorter.
We're gonna try to keep this toapproximately your drive to
work.
Assuming you're driving to work.
My drive to work is walking intothe kitchen.
So, so that,
Devonnie (16:13):
Screaming.
I'm screaming.
Jordan (16:16):
Anyways, uh, dev, where can they find us?
How can they support us?
What can they look forward to?
Devonnie (16:22):
Of course you can follow us on social media, on
Instagram.
We are romance recs pod.
We are also on TikTok under thesame name, though we're not.
I mean, we post some there, um,some things there.
But for the bulk of our contentand stuff, it's gonna be on
Instagram.
And then from there, there'sactually a link in a bio that'll
take you to wherever else weare.
(16:42):
You can catch the podcastwherever you listen to podcasts.
So Apple Music, Spotify.
We're gonna be there babes.
I promise.
Just search our name.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
And then, um, of course, like Isaid, remember to sign up for
that Substack.
You're not gonna wanna miss theinformation we have in there,
all the sneak peeks.
So just get ahead of it.
Go sign up right now.
As soon as you finish thisepisode, just go sign up so you
already know you're signed up.
(17:04):
Okay?
You get a cute little welcomeemail and yeah.
Jordan (17:08):
We'll just have a great time and thanks follow us along
for season three.
Devonnie (17:13):
yeah.
We'll let you know when thatfirst episode drops.
Why don't you take a guess as towhat it's gonna be?
And let us know in the commentson Instagram.
Thank you.
Jordan (17:22):
Bye.
Devonnie (17:23):
Bye.
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