S03.07: Who Ya Gonna Call? Slumpbusters!

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It gives me immense faith.

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Oh yeah, now your little bar is on track with mine.
That's helpful.
That's always hard.
We're pacing each other.
Oh, it's like we're on the swing set when we were kids and if you were synced up to
each other, you were married.
Did you ever play that with your friends?
No.
Oh, shame.
I just was on the swings like a normal person.

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We have huge groups of friends and then it's like if we would try to sync up people going
forward, backward, it's hard to do without a swing set to demonstrate.
No, I got it.
Many relationships were started and ended on the swings.
That's bold.
Or the tire swing.

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That one you get to know people.
I will take your word for it.
Have you ever been on a tire swing?
I mean I must have at some point but it was not a notable experience.
Apparently it's imprinted on me.
Yeah, I guess so.
We set a really big playground in our elementary school.
I mean I moved around a lot but I don't remember any significant playgrounds.

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Also, the swings tended to make me motion sick if I stayed on them too long.
Which is unfortunate because I really liked the swings.
Honestly, it was a good workout without having to be talented.
So true.
Right?
Because the monkey bars, I'm not doing that.
I killed it at the monkey bars.
I am not a monkey bars person.

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I could do them but I didn't want to do them.
The monkey bars did imprint on me.
See, you had the tire swing.
The monkey bars imprinted on me because in kindergarten or something, a girl who in my
head was much cooler and prettier than me but we were in kindergarten so she was just
blonde and cute I guess.

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But I don't think we were really friends but she did take time for multiple recess sessions
to teach me how to do the monkey bars.
And that was like a very formative experience for me that this very kind other little kindergartner
would take the time to teach me how to do that even though I thought she was much cooler
than me.
I love that for you.

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Thank you.
I love that for her.
Her name was like Caitlin and she looked like a princess.
Caitlin, wherever you are.
Shout out to you, Caitlin.
You really just made my whole kindergarten year by being like a nice child.
Well that's a PSA.
If you ever have kids, anyone, raise them to be Caitlin's of the world.

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That's a very vague PSA.
Raise your children to be Caitlin's.
A, good at monkey bars.
B, good at teaching monkey bars.
That is the criteria here.
Pretty much.
That's all you really need.
The world would be a better place with just monkey bars as the mode of transportation.

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That's just not true for many reasons.
Or we had those things where you would like hold and it was like the kind of like a zip
line, but it was like metal.
Fancy ass playground.
Yeah, I realizing this.
Because no, I did not have that.
It wasn't like a zip line, but like you held on to it and then you like propelled and then

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like you were in the air.
No, no, no.
How about like a jumpy bridge?
No, you had a fancy playground.
I feel like every playground around here has those.
I should do like some recon and send you a picture.
Okay.
Because they're just like random park playgrounds have them.

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Usual jungle gym slides, swings, seesaws occasionally.
Seasaws were fun.
Seasaws were standard.
Huh.
I don't know or I didn't know this was such a thing.
I mean, this might just be my personal experience.
I'm not saying no other playgrounds have these things.

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I was just like hearing about people's different experiences growing up in different places
because things are so different.
Well, I mean, to be fair, I was in Virginia in kindergarten, then went to New York, not
the city, but New York State.
Virginia was the earliest member.
So that's when I started like school, Virginia, New York, and then Texas.

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And then I only had a couple of years in Texas where we even were had.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, we had a playground, but I was too big for the jungle gym in like sixth grade.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Do you have a good time, by the way, in the sixth grade when we would go out for recess,
there used to be a tether ball, you know, tether ball was fun.
Yeah, but it was there was no ball attached to it.

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Oh my God.
They never replaced it.
So our idea of a good time was like there was a tree kind of near it.
So we would run from the tree and go like swing around the pole because school was too
cheap to replace the ball.
So it was just a pole.
You had a pole.
So no, we did not have like a fancy zip line.

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I need to like show you a picture because I feel like it sounds a lot fancier.
I know what you're talking about.
I just did not have that.
Like I just or like a bouncy thing.
I'm just so to my knowledge.
How odd.
Well, you learn something new every day.
Again, we were swinging around just a bare metal pole.

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So and we were not poor.
It wasn't a poor neighborhood.
It was in fact a kind of a rich neighborhood.
So I don't know what was going on there.
I think it still doesn't have a ball.
Usually we drive past and I think it's still just a pole.
That's so sad to be depriving children of tetherball.

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Don't know that there's a huge thriving tetherball community.
Well, I know that there isn't because there is.
I was going to say there couldn't be.
Did you ever play four square like with the like a ball you use for kickball, you'd like
bounce it like the like a chalk four square and then I think we did.
So we did that we have wall ball.

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Apparently it was a very outdoor centric lunch.
Yeah, I don't.
I mean, I was I was just playing.
It was most outdoorsy.
I don't think I mean, same usual running around.
Yeah, there was a period in kindergarten, no preschool where I just would not wear pants.

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I only wear dresses like and tights, tights, red pants as it was going to get.
So snow pants fell into that category, something you maybe also aren't too familiar with.
Hey now lived in the Northeast until I was we had a whole song about snow pants, warm
and snuggly snow pants.

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Well, I would have been in full snow pants.
Come on now.
Well, I've always hated snow pants, but it started at a very young age.
It wouldn't have hated them if you had the snow pants song.
I was just opposed to pants.
And so my preschool is very true.
My preschool called my mom.
I was like, she can't go outside if she doesn't put her snow pants on.
My mom was like, I don't think that's going to be an issue.

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I don't think she wants to go outside.
I'm like, no, it's cold.
I don't want to put these snow pants on and get cold.
So and I've never they just think a wet not a snow pants person, but also not really playing
in the snow person.
I enjoy being inside being a big fan of being in the snow.
Yeah.
I mean, we had one of the snowplow like deposits, like all of the cul de sac, like snow into

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one area and it creates a giant hill.
That's fun.
But if there was no hill, I wasn't outside.
Then my brother made an igloo once.
Nice.
Then it didn't function that well.
But no, it was circular.
Because we had like block taggers.
I also don't function that well and am circular.

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Oh my God.
Same.
Yeah, I relate to that.
Welcome throbbing members.
You probably also don't function very well and may or may not be circular.
If you are listening now.
That's such a weird statement to me.
Hey, you got a call like you see it.

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That's so true.
Welcome to romance or TBR.
We are very sleepy.
But that's the norm.
It is.
It is.
The twins just wonder if we'll ever manage to record an episode when we're not sleepy
at, I mean, 9 p.m. my time.
It's earlier for you.

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But yeah, but I feel like I'm not always sleepy.
But like, no, pretty much.
I am always sleepy.
This is just my constant state of being.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think much is going to change.
I'm like fist pumping.

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I'm attempting to hype myself up.
It's not working.
We're your hosts.
I'm Caroline.
She's Hannah.
It is me.
It is her.
It is me.
It is her.
And we are both deeply into some historical romance, or at least in my case, it's historical
romance specific, but reading slumps.
I'm actually a five star reading slump.

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I haven't read a lot.
I was going to say, I shouldn't speak for you.
I am in a reading slump.
I mean, I've read some really good books, but I'm also in a slump because I also don't
really want to be reading, but also I want to be reading, but I want to be reading really
good books.
And like I said, I'm in a five star reading slump.
I just don't, I haven't been reading a lot of five star.

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For me, if I even read too many four star books in a row, I just get discouraged.
It's just kind of like, but, and so that's kind of where I found myself.
I've read a few really good histograms.
Actually, I was like looking back at that because I was, I just finished one really
good one.
I was like, is this like one of the better arcs of historical romance I've read this

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year?
But I've actually read a lot of good historical romance arcs this year.
Contemporary, on the other hand, I know it's going to be a no for me.
But yeah, I don't know when my last five star one of those was.
Oh yeah, no, it was Anita Kelly.
So there's that.
That was a good book.
How you get the girl.
I need to read that.

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Yeah, I really like it.
Maybe care about basketball, which was impressive.
That is impressive.
Yes.
So there have been, also I can confirm with my insider information that they are a lovely
person.
I know.
I think we, well, I at least met them at Steamy Lit very briefly.

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And from that like two minute interaction, five stars all around.
So lovely.
I haven't read that one, but I have read their earlier books that I.
They may care about the cooking competition, which is crazy because I really don't like
reality TV, like competitive setups.
That's what, so I haven't read that one.
But then the way that it's talked about in this one, I'm like, okay, I have to go back

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and read that one because now I'm invested.
Something wild and wonderful, I think is still my favorite.
And then that was an excellent one.
Yeah, this one was just a little bit below that.
But I do have to go read the whatever that one's called.
Love Another Disaster.
Yes.
Me, the disaster.
Yeah.
So there have been some very high points, but there have been just a lot of blah.

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So I just have been struggling to read with the exception of I have been reading some
books for work.
So I have been able to do those.
Yeah, and that's more of a like in an F1 mood.
I want to read like Formula One romance and nonfiction.
Those are my two interests right now, which is bizarre.
A sentence she has never said before.

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I mean, to be F1 specific nonfiction, that's where the interests lie.
But like, that's all I want to be reading.
With the exception of like, again, the books that I'm working on.
Do you often reread?
Like how often do you reread?
Not frequently.
I get too stressed about the amount of books now, especially because I'm reading books

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for work.
I get too stressed about the amount of books that I need to be reading.
And so I don't often go back.
If I'm rereading something that's like, oh, that must be a very, very good book.
Yeah.
Because even I have favorites that I've only read once.
That is crazy.
I mean, I have some favorites that I've only read once, but I normally hit them.

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A few times.
Because when I'm in a slump like this and then you redid it.
I'm a player, guys.
No, if anything, I'm the player because I just hit it and quit it.
Oh, you're right.
You at least redid it.
I am the toxic player who makes you think I love you.
That's so true.

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It goes back.
I had a discussion, I think it was at the, it might have been at Faded Mates Live where
they were debating like, what distinguishes, like is a rake in the contemporary context
just a fuck boy?
And they were arguing no and the differences.
And it was very interesting to hear people's interpretation of what defines a rake because

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it was not always the same as how I define a rake.
I mean, I think some rakes can be fuck boys, but not all fuck boys can be rakes.
Well, I guess that just said the same thing backwards.
I feel like, hmm, I don't want to say all rakes are fuck boys, but not all fuck boys

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are rakes.
I don't know.
I don't know.
In their heart, they are.
When we do our rakes to, what was the rake to?
Rake to simp.
When we do our rake to simp, which let's be honest, most rakes become simps because you
need that gratification of them hitting the extreme on the other end.

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Yeah, this one, the one that made me text you that was like, he just spent, like he
was resistant to the fact of falling in love for like 20%.
And then he just committed to it.
And then just spent the entire rest of the book being like, I will do whatever it takes
to get this woman to marry me.

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Like humiliation is not out of the question, like anything.
A few, I know like there are a few books we've read that we can't talk about because the
SMP strike, but there's a whole series that I feel like it's just that.
Just like the heroes trying to convince the women that they can love them because they're

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rakes but also.
I do respect that, but I have a slight obsession with the rake who to the very end is in denial
about the fact that he's become a simp.
I do also love that.
And I love the Sebastian St. Vincent of it all where he's like, no, I'm a villain.
And he's been obsessed with her from the bit, but he will not admit it, but he will take

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a bullet for her.
Yep.
God, what was, there was something that I just read that felt like that.
But the one that I was reading, it was like a Loretta Chase one.
And she was like going on this rant because the hero was going on this rant about things
that like he obviously wouldn't want.
And she was like talking about their children that they would not have because he would

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never settle down.
He's like, wait, go back to the children.
What were you saying?
And he was just like, so, oh my God, it was, it was very good.
Again, my brain wasn't fully in the two books I read of those.
So I do have to reread them because I understand that I did not give them the full attention.
But I also love the moment when like one person has been pining the entire book for the other.

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And then the other one has just been like fucking around and like not realizing it or
like taking it for granted.
And then obviously at the end, the one who's been pining is finally like, I'm done.
Bye.
Have a great life.
And then the other one's like, wait, no, come back.
I have seen the error of my ways.
And then they're very desperate and it's delicious.
So I love that as well.

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But that's also not the topic.
No, when we, I was going to say when we get to our rake to simp pipeline episode, we will
have to define a rake.
Yes, that'll be interesting.
I'll have to think about that.
I mean, I'm sure there is a definition, but I feel like it's going to be too, it'll just
be like a too narrow guy who sleeps around or whatever.
It's like, well, yeah, but because when I was, I mean, even when I was thinking about

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the rake to simp pipeline, I was like, what am I classifying as like, like, because there
are so many different types of rakes, so many types of rakes, you know.
And then, I mean, we just established there's like the rake to simp that happens immediately
and like reformed into the simp so quickly and is so down bad.
And then there's the rake who's in denial about being a simp.

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And there's like the dissolute rake.
And then there's like the happy go lucky carefree rake.
And there's the daddy issues rake.
There's a like dark and brooding rake with the heart of gold.
There's a lot of rates.
There are so many.
We're going to need like a chart.
We have to do it.
We have to do like an episode on each type of rake.
It's a rake, but it's like a like an actual rake and all of the prongs are like splitting

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off into different kinds of, you know, you may be onto something.
I know I am.
I can feel it.
I can feel it deep in my bones.
I can feel it coming in the air tonight.
However, well, somebody's never mind.
Well, hopefully not in my bone or in my bone.
Why was it in the air?
Did you say bones?
Yes, I said I could feel it in my bones.

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I was like, I had someone's not coming in my bones coming in the air.
I was going to say somebody's going to be coming in the air.
That doesn't make any sense.
That makes more sense technically than in my bones.
So that's true.
God, I hope no one's ever coming in my bones.
That's not the topic.
None of this is the topic.
We're 18 minutes in.
The topic is slumpbusters.

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Mm hmm.
Dramatic you have read.
I'm trying to remember what which books I picked.
You've read one of my two.
Oh, interesting.
I love that for me.
So I haven't prepared anything.
I'm just going off vibes.
I picked two because I was like, these are extreme opposite vibes.

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Like, and I think it depends why you're in a slump and what you need to get out of it.
Oh, that's interesting.
So I picked two very different vibes.
So if you don't like one, you can always go with the other.
If you don't like one, you're going to like the other, but you might like both.
I like both.

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I vibe with that.
You need to start this off because now I have things to think about.
Well, if you're like, I'm in a slump and what I need is something quick, like something
shorter than a full length novel, probably steamy, always helpful, something like funny

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and not too angsty.
There might be, you know, there's going to be a little emotional drama, but nothing over
the top, nothing drawn out, just something like quick and funny that will just like,
boom, be a delight and you're done.
Slumpbusted.
Get the Off My Lawn by Daria Vernon.
It's short-ish, you know, it's like a longer novella, I would say, but pretty short.

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It gets steamy right away and it's great.
It's very silly.
The premise is that I don't even, what is the premise?
She's going to get her pet swan off of the neighbor's property and he's like, hey, he
is like the son of the older guy who owns it.
Like they were neighbors growing up.
Yeah, but he's been gone, so she doesn't know him.

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And she's trying to lure this swan out of the pond because it's run away and he's like,
why are you trying to steal the swan off my property?
And she's like, oh, this is my swan, but it's not her swan.
But then the swans are kind of playing matchmaker and they're having a delightful time and they're
like, what if we just like go fuck in the bathtub?
And then some kind of drama ensues.

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And that's the worst pitch I've ever given, but it's so silly.
Because she's engaged or going to be engaged with someone else and then at her engagement
party, that's when they fuck in a stairwell.
Sure, and she screams and everyone hears her.
Fantastic.
But then it was the perfect amount of angst because there's a secondary relationship,

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which was great.
And then I'm normally not engaged to someone else.
That's normally not my trope.
But here it was very fun.
It makes sense and it was wrapped up in such a funny, goofy way that I was like, amazing.
I love you.
It's like short and the perfect balance of silly, steamy and angsty.
Again, not super angsty, but like just enough to keep you invested.

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I agree.
So that's my like quick and fun slump buster.
Okay, I have developed mine.
Excellent.
I've just seen more.
Oh, can I also say for the record, my actual go to slump buster is Lord of Scoundrels.
Like I talk about that book constantly.

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So we're in the same brain because mine is just Loretta Chase.
Facts.
But obviously Lord of Scoundrels is fantastic.
But I've recently read two of her series.
I was talking about her earlier, so just top of mind.
The one that would be the Dressmaker series.
So you've read book one for our, was it Speak Now episode?

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Yes.
I think you read that for.
Yes.
It's a great book.
Again, that was a engage with someone else.
Almost engaged.
Almost.
And I was kind of like wary about it.
And then it was just fantastic.
Like I think I could honestly go back and give it five stars because I really enjoyed
it.
The second one, perchance, is on our Make to Send pipeline.

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They were just so goofy and silly and fun, but so well written.
And like, I just don't think humans are predisposed to dislike Loretta Chase's writing.
There are always going to be some of an author's work that don't quite work for you, but like
on the whole, I say this as if I've read more than a couple of Loretta Chase.

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She's such a good writer.
That's the thing, like I've, because I've read now, so that's four in that series, two
in the last series, because she has another one coming out in 2025.
So our queen is still writing.
Thank God.
I love that for us.
Really?
And her.
Yeah, 2025.
It's the, her most recent series is the one that I just was reading.
I didn't realize it was like not finished.

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Yeah.
It's the difficult Duke series.
So the first one, I already forgot it.
So we're going to forget that.
But the second one was the 10 things I hate about the Duke.
So it was like 10 things I hate about you.
And that one was really fun.
The next one is my inconvenient Duke in January 21st of 2025.
So we'll see if that date stays, but very exciting.

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The guy that can write that scene in the cafe in Lord of Scoundrels where he unbuttons her
glove and speaks to her in French.
He also is the, yes, raked a simp pipeline.
And only to accidentally talk himself into actually sweet talking her.
He's a rake.
Yeah.

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He's a rake because he's convinced himself and society has convinced him that he has
a gigantic nose and that he's ugly.
And that no one will ever love him.
Society has convinced him he has a giant nose.
And so like he is a rake because he doesn't want like he doesn't believe emotional attachment
is a thing he can do or people won't love him.
So he's like, fuck it.

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I'm just going to fuck everyone.
Because I don't need it.
And specifically I'm going to pay them.
Like I'm going to hire prostitutes.
Yes, exactly.
Because he doesn't want to be rejected.
And they won't reject him.
Exactly.
He's so dramatic.
Love that.
There's a, if you don't know or don't follow me on Instagram, I do a series.
You were talking to me.
I was like, no, sorry.
Listeners, robbing members.
I know Hannah follows me on Instagram.

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I was like, uh.
For those listening who perhaps know.
We have a beef actually.
Yeah, plot twist.
I do a series of pairing Tumblr posts, like text posts with books.
And the thing that inspired that entire series was one of the first ones I did, which was
I was on Tumblr as one does.

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And I saw a text post that said his huge nose and horish tendencies have captivated me.
And my first thought was, oh my God, it's Jessica Trent.
She loves his huge nose and horish tendencies.
And thus spawned an entire series on my Instagram.
But I can't keep talking about this book.

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Anyway, yes, Loretta Chase.
Yeah.
So like, I just think, cause like that's what I went to in Islam.
Like I saw people talking about the series that I just read, the dangerous Dukes or whatever
on Twitter.
And I was like, you know what?
She's not going to let me down.
Like, it's at least going to be a four star read.
Like, it's going to be great.
And so I read those.
And then before that, I think someone had recommended the Dukes Prefer Blondes or just

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like for them, that was kind of like their slump buster.
Like they just needed like something really solid, picked it up and loved it.
And so I was like, I want that.
So then I read that, I think around Christmas and that was fantastic.
And so then I had known you would have read book one.
So then I started with that and then reread in order and they were all so good.
There was a little novella in there.

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And they're just, cause they have like, they're not basic plots.
Like they're all very fun, like campy things are happening, but they're not angsty really.
But there's always going to be like a villain that you have the POV of.
I've noticed that there's always going to be shenanigans and just like a villain who
thinks they're villaining really well.
And they're just getting like out-villained at every moment by the main characters.

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Like, cause it's the funniest thing.
Oh, story of my life.
When you think you're the villain, but you're actually just a nuisance.
Yes, exactly.
And so like in all those books, there's like a person that you're in the head of and they're
just like getting foiled at every turn and I loved it.

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So I do think that's like a quirk of hers is that they're always going to be jumping
heads with random baddies.
I do love a head hopper though.
Like somebody who can do it well.
That's so fun.
And she can.
So yeah, I just think pick up the Dressmaker series or pick up the Dangerous Dukes one
or I guess any for backlist really.
I did, I wasn't a huge fan of Mr. Impossible.

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That's like my one that I wouldn't really recommend.
It hasn't aged well because it was maybe like the nineties or early 2000s or something.
But obviously Laura Scoundrels is a forever recommendation.
And yeah, she's just one that I think I can trust.
Like I just, I want her to write about my life and then I want to read it because it'll

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be way more interesting than whatever I'm going through.
She's just so funny also.
Like, why is she so funny?
I will say I have noticed that Vivian Lorette gives me Loretta Chase vibes.
I just read, yeah, one of my five star historical romance arcs was her most recent one.

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And that is called, where the hell?
Oh, The Trouble with Inventing a By Count.
It's book two.
I really enjoyed book one.
That's also five stars.
So yes.
So this one is a-
I had the arc of it and I just never got to reading it.
Yeah.
So you definitely want to get to reading that one.
It gave me Princess Diaries, Two Vibes.
Ah, yes.

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And her family is hilarious.
Like her mother, like, because they're theater people.
So it's just so theatrical and hilarious.
And her mother gives sex education with a Mr. Turgid puppet, a Mr. Flaccid puppet, and
then a Miss Content puppet.
And they make appearances in both of the books so far and they're so funny.
But I loved her most recent book, but I was reading it while I was also listening to the

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audiobooks of The Dangerous Duke's Loretta Chase.
Like not at the same time, obviously, but you know, I'd listen to the audiobook during
work and then after work I'd go to read my arc.
And I was like, they're just like blending together because the writing just feels very
similar.
And I also had read One Fine May by Courtney McCaskill.
And that's part of the Rake Review, speaking of Rake Reviews series, which they do like

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a novella or like book per month.
So that one's One Fine May and it's like a different author, like indie author for each
month.
And I also read her book in the midst of reading this arc, in the midst of listening to those
two audiobooks because I wanted to read it for May 1st and it was April 30th.
And that one also gave me, like she's a very good author.
She's like one of my favorite indie authors for historical romance.

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She has never let me down yet.
And she also had like the campy, the funny, like just lovable characters who get up to
Miss Jif and you just want to laugh.
So all's that to say Loretta Chase or anyone who vaguely feels like Loretta Chase.
There's a lot of wrecks for the price of one.
Yes, that's, yep.

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Nothing's going to change a second time around, I can tell you that.
Lord.
Well, my other one, I guess, actually is kind of a similar situation because it's a book
but really it's an author.
I'm going to swing wildly to the other side of the pendulum because maybe you're in the
mood for something light and fun and steamy and silly.
I hope I know where you're going because that would take one off of my list.

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It's probably not because this is the one you haven't read, although it might be the
same author.
We'll see.
Yeah.
And if that's anyway, light, fun, funny, flirty, silly, goofy time.
Sorry, Vernon.
However, if you're like what I really need to get through this slump is something that's
going to break me emotionally so that I just like have to keep reading to know how this

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is possibly going to work out.
Might I recommend, well, really any of the Sherry Thomas's I've read, specifically Ravishing
the Heiress.
Yep.
That's not obviously the one I haven't read.
You haven't read this one yet.
I know this because you're either going to love it or you're going to hate it and I have
no idea what it's going to be.
I'm scared.
I don't have the capacity to be either very angry or I guess I have the capacity to be

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very in love but anger, I don't know if I can handle right now.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
The thing about Ravishing the Heiress is I am constantly fighting the urge.
This is one that's a favorite that I haven't reread but I have been constantly fighting
the urge to reread but I am like I can't emotionally, like it's not a light and quick reread.

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I would have to commit.
I don't know if I can reread private arrangements without like doing proper like vigorous Sherry
Thomas.
Yeah.
Like once you start, you're going to want to get to the end immediately because you're
like well this is fantastic and I have to know what happens right now.
Ravishing the Heiress, it's kind of dual timeline.

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So you start with them already married.
They're like best friends but they are not in love.
Well she's in love with him.
She has been the entire time.
He does not know this.
When they became engaged, he was in love with someone else and for historical romance hero

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reasons ended up having to go through and marry this girl that he was not in love with
and he really resented her for it for a while.
They had their ups and downs.
The dual timeline is you do go back to the beginning of their relationship and see how
all of this developed and then you check in with them over the period.
I don't remember how long they've been married.
Five years or maybe longer.
I don't know.

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They've been married for some years and you kind of check in with them over the course
of their relationship because they go from this weird like she's infatuated with him
but knows that he's in love with someone else but is kind of being forced by circumstance
to marry her but he doesn't want to and he feels that the love of his life is being taken
away from him and he's in agony over this and she knows this and he doesn't know that

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she's in love with him and it's so emotional and she's been in love with him this entire
time and he's just kind of unaware of this to a certain extent but they are at this point
when the book starts very good friends.
Best friends one might even say they're like business partners.
They weren't friends before they got married?

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No.
Okay.
Okay.
I think unless I'm confusing this with another book which may be the case, you know me, I
believe she was engaged.
She was like an heiress.
So she was engaged.
Not ravishing.
To yes, that'll do it.
The title of the book will probably give it away.
She was engaged to some, I think he's titled but I don't remember what the title was and

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he died and so the hero whose name I'm blanking on inherited this like destitute estate basically
and so he was in love with this other woman but now he suddenly has an inherited this
destitute crumbling estate and desperately needs money because literally the walls of
his like castle or whatever that he's inherited are crumbling.

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So he has to go through with this marriage that whoever whatever relative it was had
originally planned out and she's like great.
He's real cute and he's like I am in love with someone else and I always will be but
then they become best friends and also business partners over the years.

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So when we start the book this other woman that he's been in love with that had gone
off and married someone else has been widowed and she comes back and is like hey I'm widowed
and he's basically like alright Millie I give it I think he says like six months to try
to get an heir and then I'm gonna go like live with her as my mistress basically and

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Millie's like cool cool okay sick.
So it is like debit like they're consummating this marriage they also agreed at the beginning
of it they're like we're gonna wait this many years to consummate the marriage and so this
is the first time and it is devastating.
The pining I don't know how she does it because like everything about the setup of this book

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feels like it should just be terrible but it's somehow like I I'm in so much pain and
I'm so happy about it.
You know that we don't stand JK Rowling in this house but you're gonna suffer but you're
gonna be happy about it or whatever.
That's exactly what came to my mind in the freaking diva nature room.
You're gonna suffer but you're gonna be happy about it and you're gonna be so invested it's
also very steamy because it's Sherri Thomas so of course it is.

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It's just like agonizing and you're gonna have to get to the end of it like once you
start it's so it's it burrows in your brain I don't know how to explain it I loved it
so much.
Interesting.
Yeah I am truly intrigued as to how I'll feel.
You might hate it.
I could very possibly because I definitely dislike like I would hate the book that he

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would be in with the other woman if they were in a romance book together as the main characters
and he had to go and marry someone else like I hate that or like he gets like so close
because I'm just like you wimp just be poor and in love but this is different so who knows.
Who knows.
Which is funny because I was gonna say the one that I immediately came to my mind is

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a slump buster but I have another wreck for after this was The Luckiest Lady in London
because I fight the battle to reread that one constantly.
That book was so horny.
Right and I've only read it twice and I've only reread it because of our St. Patrick's
Day episode like was it two years or whatever ago.

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Yeah so a long time ago and so like I was like oh my god I have to reread it the horror
so I reread it then but I've like thought about it so frequently because it's so good
and that one's like the angst I devour because it's just them being misunderstanding and
all that I don't know that one was just so good.

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So I think that one would get you out of a slump too because it does give you like some
angst but like it's a very centralized angst of just like them and they work everything
out or they're like still on the same page and in their proximity to each other even
if they're like angry or fighting and like they leap to conclusions but it all works
out and it's fun and hilarious.
Sherri Thomas she's one that I mean not that I've read that many of her books but I have

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read several and with the exception of one that I DNF'd that I will be revisiting at
some point in the future but.
Delicious.
Yeah it may have been a book at the wrong time situation or that's one that I need to read
physically not via audio whatever it may be but she is just like such a good writer.

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That even knowing like obviously every author has some books that you don't necessarily
jive with I just feel so safe with her and well that's not true I feel very unsafe with
her and that every time I pick up a book I'm like I'm ready to suffer but I know it's going
to be so good.
Sherri.

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That's the same that's how I feel about Teresa Madeiros which is my next rec because I just
have not picked up a book by her is that I haven't loved and like for me she's going
to be a slump buster because like I just picked up a good amount of her back list from the
Sake We Use bookstore in Minneapolis and I was in heaven.

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My parent or my mom lost me she had no clue where I was there was no cell phone reception
I was like I'm not leaving this room so they can find me but like I'm not you can pull
me out when I'm dead gone because there were so many books and there were so many of her
books and like I just know when I'm going to start one of her books like the writing
is going to be fantastic it's going to be crazy and I'm going to love it like I have

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no fear of starting one of her books like I think I gave one of her books maybe three
stars and that's only it's like the Lucic Lapis effect or there's even like the Loretta
Chase effect of like a four star Loretta Chase is a five star anywhere else so like the only
reason I give the Teresa Medeiros one a three is because I have read several better ones

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of hers sure comparatively compared to the other Teresa Medeiros exactly I do the same
thing I do that with Lisa Klaipas all the time another slump buster for me especially
the Ravenells narrating the audiobook yep the Ravenells is a great slump buster because
you could just like crank those out so fast so good the narrator is the same obviously

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Mary Jane Wells I'm also constantly fighting the urge to reread Devil in Winter just like
me I was thinking about that book literally earlier today yeah well before we brought
I mean I brought Sebastian Samuelson up on the podcast I was thinking about the I think
I read another book where they oh I did I read another book where they at the end they

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had an anvil wedding they just didn't want to have a big wedding and he was Scottish
so they went and got married in Scotland and I was like oh my love is upon you damn ring
yeah like I just love having an author that I can turn to with a big backlist so like
you know Loretta Chase Teresa Medeiros I mean Teresa just has so many like she has such

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a varied like range of things like she has only has like two audiobooks which is rude
it's rude it's a crime it's my villain origin story it's my 13th reason like why I don't
know and it unfortunately is that one of those audiobooks was the three star one just because
it's got to be like that but those ones I say are like pretty like a basic historical

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romance like those are like pretty straightforward I think one may start out where someone's
in jail and then they get married or have to get married or something which is a fun
plot yeah and then we know that she has the paranormal after midnight and then something
vampire she's got those if you like are feeling loved to me yes if you're feeling paranormal

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you can go there if you're feeling time travel you can go to her time travel series with
her pirates and a witch and 90s billionaire and then their daughter who's a witch but
she doesn't maybe know it and then she goes back to medieval times and then gets a knight
who then is like I have to burn her because she's a witch fantastic I mean as what do

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you mean as you do I mean oh my god it's so good um so she's got those and then um a kiss
remember amnesia of course she's got an amnesia book and it was fantastic like do you love
an amnesia book I love an amnesia book and I just love her so much um nobody's darling
I've heard great things about that one that one's a western very excited I just picked

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that one up so I will be reading it soon hopefully because I just cleared out my neck alley so
now I have time for for physical reading um but yeah I mean I just think any of her books
is a pretty safe bet oh and thief of hearts pirates I mean come on so true captain doom

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captain doom forget captain I almost didn't I feel atrocious like so many different she
is one if you just don't know what you're feeling and you need to see like a range a
buffet of themes and subgenres because she's got them all and she can knock them out of
the park I don't think she's still writing and I really wish she was I don't know where

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she is but maybe come back um because we need her oh but no I just right one of my favorite
her most she vanished vanished I say to reason you are the avatar the last airbender she's
a word bender god her writing is just fun um I mean because like the time travel ones

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like the first one was like super I'd say angsty like he gives a little bit of Whitney
my love of like that man does some things at the end you're like do I like you maybe
not but was that bathtub scene that we just read very hot yes like oh yeah hottest bathtub
scene I've ever read was in the pure to which one so that's a great thing um she writes

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great sex scenes too like she's just all around fantastic same thing with the red chase like
can't go wrong can only go right and I love her desperately and that's that she's she's
like she's like Zoolander can only go right she is both the last avatar the airbender

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and Zoolander yeah you know accurate honestly I can't can't dispute I would also say that
Crested Cole is for me another slump buster because I do be rereading those you do I do

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and her historical ones were really good or at least the two I read and then I do have
her which will also be a slump buster for me in the future is her I'm predicting this
because I know it's true her the one with like all the plaid she caught like there's
green blue and red something yeah yeah yeah um so I need to read those they don't have

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audiobooks so like it's gonna be a visual moment and then I also just got her contemporary
I think it's the master I've heard really good things about yeah it's like BDSM so I
think another yeah another thing I'm excited for that will bust some type of slump it'll
bust something I have great faith that it will so I am very excited for that so and

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Tessa Dare Lorraine Heath again Tessa Dare really hasn't steered me very wrong like I
have some I like less but still good writing and fun times anything with Lorraine Heath
I mean like if I dislike Lorraine Heath like she knows how to make me dislike a book but
like most of them if you're looking for like angsty and like crying in your bathroom because

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of epilogues that that will do it if you're in a slump of crying Sherry Thomas Lorraine
Heath for you actually I don't know that I wonder if I have cried during a Sherry Thomas
I don't know that it's crying angst so much as just like everything hurts angst you're

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right you're right you're right but I cry a lot so I honestly might have cried who's
to say really I might have cried during ravishing the heiress that was intense yeah I also look
he might have cried though when he has a little pet mouse in the past that yes that the other
woman had given him and the pet mouse gets old and dies and that would get me was upsetting

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she gets it like taxidermied so it lives on the mantle place like the little taxidermied
mouse um no but he like carried it around in his pocket and was very distraught when
it started like getting getting to the point it was it was very sad men and animals something
about it I was like what do you mean you're emotional over a little mouse what do you

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mean god that was so bad I know I have that is on my list I own the audiobook I will read
it eventually um I mean slumps are so hard because like if you go to just a trope and
you do a book based on a trope like that's a lot less like reassuring than an author

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that you know you love because I think like I've tried to do that with amnesia like I've
tried to kind of like jump author to author for like amnesia and I mean there are definitely
some amnesia books I do not like yeah and so I'm not a good slump us or author Beverly
Jenkins rarely is yours you're right I don't love all of her books like there are some

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that don't quite work for me for sure but like chances are high I'm gonna have a good
time mm-hmm I do agree I'll just all the classic that's how their classics for a reason exactly
like you just really can't go wrong if you want a good time like a well-written good

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time I'm looking at um daring in the Duke right now my bookshelf that could bust a lot
of things in me I don't remember that's the third one in the blue pink and yellow series
the bastard oh bare-knuckle you know historical romance titles yeah so many during and I got

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it wild and there's rogue and ravishing and there's a lot yep yep yep yep um but that
book I also constantly think about rereading I think I'm just caught up on like do I have
do I want not half do I want to read the other two before I get to it to make me hurt more
and make it feel better more or I just want to like go straight to that one because it's

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so good questions questions of puzzlement well there you have it hopefully if you're
in a reading slump like some of us this was helpful or maybe you just wanted to read some
good books in which case we gave you actually way too many this might actually have been

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less helpful because Hannah started listing whole authors with very long back lists because
that's what I that's what I need if I'm trying to bust something like I just need options
because I'm very indecisive and I need like if I start something I'm not liking it I can
just like put it down and pick up something else which I I do that multiple like a lot

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like I'll just like randomly start audiobooks and I just will never finish them but it's
not like a hard dnf it's just like I forgot about 2dnf you know like it's not an active
choice I think about I'm like thinking about like all the paranormal like historical romances
like they're just together we've given them too many there's so many books I just want

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to recommend them all of course there are but witching I think why are you reading that
one a lot too I didn't appreciate it enough I know that's so true I don't think anybody
just appreciated it enough because why is love everybody talking about that book you
are correct I just love fantasy paranormal historical romance like I actually found a

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few more during independent bookstore day that I need to like add into my lists like
time travel like I just love them because they're so kooky and fun and I just love the
rules of the historical time period but then they're just ugh okay well we have reaffirmed

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my love of reading that's for sure because now there are so many books that I want to
read that I love or that I will love or hope to love and so much love I just yeah I've
just been like recommending so many books rather than reading them lately yeah and

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I'm just like but why not me it's hard out here it's rough so true mm-hmm so true well
we did I believe you have some f1 updates guys we know what I want to raise welcome

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to carolina's f1 corner where Hannah gives me five minutes per episode to unleash the
un-inched workings of my brain onto you yeah that formula I recently rewatched that I was
giggling oh what a movie guys I don't know what I want to raise and really that's the

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only update that you need he never won a race he is not I'm not a rare yeah there's actually
only been I saw somebody talking about how rare it is to have a new like first time race
winner in f1 yeah well how many years is he in at this level five twenty nineteen so this

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is his sixth season there I mean there are some guys racing who have been there longer
than him and have never even gotten on the podium you just have a bad car like you're
just always back in the midfield um so there's like Kevin Magnuson for example got I can't
remember if he won or if he just got a podium on his first ever Formula One race and then

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has never been on the podium again and he's been racing for a long time fast die young
Nico Hulkenberg his teammate also he's never been on the podium so yeah it's not I mean
it's kind of luck also like in the world and they're just living in it yeah well so Lewis

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has the Lewis Hamilton has the most wins he's at like a hundred hundred and he has broken
records but he's also been in the sport for many many years but in the last few years
I think we've gotten like one new race winner per year basically like a first time yeah

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I don't know the stats off the top of my head but it's very it's pretty rare usually because
you have like the teams who have built really fast cars and who have a lot of money and
also have really good drivers and so they're the ones that are typically competing for
the podium spots and so if you have like I mean this year there are like five teams there's

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Red Bull and Ferrari that are kind of at the top and then Aston Martin and McLaren are
kind of getting their way up there hell yeah and then Mercedes is really struggling but
they are still a higher up and then there's like the five kind of back end teams and only
the top ten finishers in a race get points so if you have five pretty good teams and

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two drivers per so like it's a big deal when the other five teams manage to get somebody
up into the points because a lot of times the top ten spots are kind of just like you
know who's going to be in the top ten so it's exciting when they I mean they do usually
there are like one or two people that are not from the top teams who end up in the points
but it's kind of like oh who's going to get the point for tenth place like who's it going

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to be so no it's not it is not easy to win so he won his 110th race after 16 podiums
I believe oh you mean okay I thought you I was like this man I thought you said he's
never won so this is his 110th race that he's raised yeah okay gotcha okay I thought you

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might have this was his like 110th win I was like what do you mean oh no he's not Lewis
Hamilton I know I was like I'm confused he's raised 110 he's had I can't remember if this
is the 16th podium or if he was at 16 before this he was probably 16 before this where
he had been third or second and just never and when you're raising like in the the age

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of Max Verstappen dominance yeah the only non-red bull race winner last year was Carlos
Sainz and he and Lando this year also are the only ones to have won other than Max so
it's not easy that's crazy but it took him a long time and he finally did it and it was

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very exciting and I did spend way too much money on the merch that he dropped to celebrate
I love that for you it's not even amazing merch I just was like yeah I will spend $90
on a hoodie these are the days I will buy a t-shirt that says Lando no wins with the
no the back in the day the Daniel Ricardo lovers when he was teammates with him Danny

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right your Perth man when they were my first man I do love him the like Lando haters started
calling him instead of Lando Norris they would call him Lando no wins and this has haunted
him through the years Lando no wins that's kind of the go-to anybody who's like Lando
no wins and he apparently he knows because he would go like people's comments when they

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would say that to be like lol you're the worst but then when he won he was like on the radio
he was like Lando no wins like that can die now so his merch for this drop what like the
shirt I got it says he had in his handwriting written Lando no wins and crossed out the
no and I was like I do need that that is very fun the hoodie it says like something at P1

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Miami whatever on the front and his handwriting but on the back it's when you flip up the
hood underneath the hood it has the Lando no wins I was like I appreciate his commitment
to that so when I think I've asked you this when did you switch from Charles to Lando
you know because he was on the podium too and I was like she's giving no crumbs to this
man well he's left in the dust it's because in any other if it had been like max Lando

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Charles I would have also been excited if it had been like max P1 I mean if it had been
anybody other than like if max had won and anybody else was on the podium it would have
been Charles excitement but like you don't understand the entire F1 community like rallied
around Lando winning to the point where like every other driver was congratulating him

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and max was like actually happier seeming than when he wins like he was just so delighted
by this all of the like teams were posting to be like oh you know like not our best weekend
blah blah blah also congrats Lando Norris like posting pictures of him winning yeah
because everyone collectively was like yeah he deserves it he's the people's princess

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he is a people's princess but like what made you go from exclusively posting charlotte
claire thirst traps and all that edit you love charlotte claire and then now I just
see the people's princess what's the like um well let's be honest charlotte claire
is really the people's princess they can compete for that title uh the people's prince
eye well actually he's the prince of monaco so I guess he already has his own little uh

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what's the is it pride and prejudice where they do the like it crept up on me so slowly
at like I have no notion yes it is the I don't know I don't know when it began I don't like
I only knew when I was in the middle of it but I believe I can date it back to the first
time I saw the estate of Pemberley um because she's a relatable queen uh I'm firmly of the

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opinion that your favorite f1 teams and drivers choose you not the other way around so I just
charlotte claire was my first love love that man but the more I watched one day I suddenly
was like oh no why am I obsessed with landon oris I don't know it just happened just love
him makes sense but charlotte claire has an adorable little dog now so that's a new obsession

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of mine his name is leo leo leclerc saint new or whatever however you pronounce his
girlfriend's last name because his government name as was on his exclusive paddock pass
with his little headshot was leo leclerc saint whatever this is full government name both
of their last it was amazing I'm obsessed with that little dog have a girlfriend not

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to our knowledge but there's been rumblings he's just been seen with this portuguese model
which like his last girlfriend who everyone loved was a portuguese model and he's been
seen with another one but she's sketchy I know nothing about her except that she apparently
dated like a brazilian footballer and apparently cheated on him three times so every time they

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spot lando with her everybody is like stay away from her but that also might be daddy
I love him that also might just be people on the internet being terrible to anyone who
famous men date you know yeah yeah just say personally that feels like an attack because
he doesn't know it yet but obviously I'm the love of his life so I'm like I can't believe

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you would cheat on me with a portuguese model but whatever we don't know he did do a lie
detector test recently you know as you do for social media and they were like do you
have a girlfriend and he was like no and they said do you have many girlfriends and he said
yes according to the lie detector test he was telling the truth this just in will lando

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norris ride the rake to send pipeline anytime soon will he just continue having many girlfriends
he's too many girlfriends he's 24 like he is out living what I have to assume is his
best fuckboy life yeah I hope so anyway like you're 24 and like a millionaire you're probably
a terrible person now winner yeah yeah that's why sports romance is a little bit hard for

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me I will say I still really enjoy Alicia Thompson's the art of catching feelings because
I was like do I want like do I really think baseball players are great people outside
of baseball no I'm probably not supposed to um I could think they're beautiful but that
book he was a very good person I really liked him and I was like you know what this is this
is what I want not an actual baseball pro MLB player because I feel like yeah that's

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so valid yeah like they're all like the I just feel like the similarities would end
at the door there'd be none besides liking baseball to a different degree so it's still
not a very big similarity oh my other update is that I literally just bought tickets to

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Dana and I saw that British Grand Prix we're going to Silverstone and we're very excited
about it that is very exciting have we told our boss that we're not going to be working
for well see here's the thing though basically we're being paid to go if you think about
it because that race is the weekend of the 4th of July the 4th of July is Friday I think

(01:02:08):
so this year or third I think it's Friday well we get Thursday and Friday off so if
we're already having Thursday and Friday off then really we would only have to take Monday
Tuesday and Wednesday off and then that next Monday when we're flying back but like it's
two free days off instead of the first I see yeah yeah you're talking about the following

(01:02:31):
no no if we take no at the beginning of the week like if we go the whole if we fly up
on Monday or during the weekend or whatever really we only have to take four days off
total instead of six days off so really they're paying us practically girl math just double
apex oh of course I'm taking and be like come work overtime overtime because I'm a blowout

(01:03:01):
yeah clearly this is work when we go to Austin in October which will be just a couple of
weeks after the book comes out also work clearly she's looking off to the side as if she's
telling a lie but she's a truth or guys she's a truth or she's never lied once I don't

(01:03:23):
think I look to the side when I lie actually no I think that's just like a urban legend
yeah and it's like one side or the other like one is to like remember and the other one
is to lie and you're also mirrored so who knows I don't know that I buy that but regardless

(01:03:43):
Lando no wins no longer has no wins Lando now wins and we're a Carolina Hannah no wins
well that's true we do have no wins so we can take the name from him and he's George
yes because you're in a slump and I am in a different kind of slump we are something

(01:04:06):
we are no winning we are no winning I did I went to the f1 arcade in Boston which is
like yeah you went to the Boston too yeah very like cool bar situation with like full
on f1 like race simulators and you get to do like three pretty short 10 minute or something
races and so we went and Dana was like oh I'm gonna be really bad at this and I was

(01:04:31):
like same like of course we are it's formula one but in a video game like of course we're
gonna be terrible at it everyone's gonna be terrible at it and she was like no you don't
understand Dana's from Staten Island like grew up on Staten Island she's like no I
never learned to drive and I was like oh okay I do find that a wild fact I know people from

(01:04:56):
my work too they also don't drive if she might have had a leg up because the thing is you
drive um with both feet like your right foot is the throttle and your left foot is the
brake and so you have to like turn the part oh I thought you might you in your car drive
I'm like oh my god now I'm with two feet I'm like Caroline the thing is no like I think
that's in f1 I see one foot to the throttle one foot to the brake so she was never used

(01:05:21):
to just doing the one exactly so I'm like maybe you'll have an easier time because you
don't have to like mentally unblock the like that just moving your foot but um it's like
a 10 racers so if it was the two of us there were eight other like randomly generated um
formula one drivers on there at one point Lando did win and I was like oh my god so

(01:05:41):
maybe I predicted it anyway um and I did finish ninth out of ten on all three of those races
on the second easiest race mode but Dana finished tenth every time so I won granted Dana again
never actually learned to drive you know it is what it is you win some you lose some and

(01:06:08):
then you really lose some and that's okay um I think I did go-karts or like not even
go-karts but like little mini cars that you like race around a track and I think I got
stuck in like okay go-karts uh oh I was thinking bumper cars that's the one they bump into
each other um and I don't even think I made it around like one full lap yeah um I think
I like got stuck in the hay and they had to come rescue me and then I'm also really bad

(01:06:33):
at um Mario Kart so I think I would finish eleven out of ten so at least I am compared
to my eight-year-old nephew who only beat me sometimes I would assume your nephew would
absolutely body you in Mario Kart that's pretty much verbatim what he said to me when we started
to play he was like I'm gonna destroy you and I was like oh okay but then I won sometimes

(01:06:54):
so he didn't destroy me there is a pretty cool go-kart track in like Jersey City it's
just hard to get to but we do want to go go-karting because I feel like it would be a good time
I would be terrible at it again but see the thing is now I've watched so many videos about
like hitting the apex and like when you start breaking when you're like and like the racing

(01:07:16):
like I'm like okay well maybe I would be if I had gotten in a go-kart at a very young
age maybe I could be the first I'm just kidding I would not be a good athlete guys there is
not that delusional there's an old Kristen Stewart movie where they race little go-karts
and then they rob a bank oh um you should one of those things it's called it's called

(01:07:39):
catch that kid um okay it Corbin Bleu from High School Musicals in it um Kristen Stewart
you know cars so it's really bold that you had to add from High School Musical to your
Corbin as if I didn't I don't know if you could like hear me like I feel like if I saw

(01:07:59):
it written I would know but I feel like if I just heard someone say really fast Corbin
Bleu I'd be like what my best friend was in love with Corbin Bleu probably still is honestly
um so believe me I am familiar with Corbin she uh she used to tell us how when she would
like go to the doctor's office when she was younger they would be like you know imagine
yourself in your happy place like in a very relaxing situation to like get a shot or whatever

(01:08:23):
and her happy place that she would go to was a swimming pool full of jello with Corbin Bleu
well then you should tell her about this movie maybe she's already seen it if she's maybe she
was onto something actually trenches because a swimming pool full of jello with Lando Norris
doesn't sound like a bad time it would be a weird sensory experience but but it might be really

(01:08:48):
satisfying I do support I feel like he would make any time but anyway it's also the kid who
was did you ever see the pacifier with Vin Diesel no um shame on you one um but I had a huge crush
on the kid who was in that who like had to sing the sound of music he was like a closet theater

(01:09:11):
kid because he didn't want to admit it and he's being very emo about it and dyes his hair blonde
it's a whole thing um he's also in the Nancy Drew with Emma Roberts um he's also in Catch That Kid
he's the main kid they have to catch so the titular kid the titular kid 2004 they were doing it right
back then go watch it and have a great time I don't think you'd hate it love me hate probably not

(01:09:39):
Wow what an endorsement well and I know you've gotten all kinds of recommendations today
movies that you might not love but at least won't know about yeah right take me to the pacifier
honestly and I was terrified on anti-dream movie I was too old to be terrified but I was spooked

(01:10:02):
I was scared I'm a wimp like my track record of like movies I've been scared of as like not a child
it's a long list I yeah that's for another day my shame
we can unpack your shame in another episode we can we can we can but yeah um next week another

(01:10:27):
newsletter and then another podcast on whatever we choose both of you to assume we know if you did
assume so true I don't think anybody's assuming that at this point that's that you espresso
to assume

(01:10:48):
say it like an insult
oh anything could be an insult if you say it like an insult that's that you espresso
it does really sound vicious it really it sounds like that's a you problem that's like you espresso

(01:11:08):
you're too bold you're too beautiful you're too blonde so true I can't help it
it your blonde hair is ravishing it's so blonde um so ravishing
okay we've done it against all odds Lando Norris won we finished an episode

(01:11:34):
the bars are the same for both of those landmark happenings landmark event Lando landmark land
nice Lando has landed we have recorded oh that was David Crofty that was what he said when he
crossed the line that wasn't me I'm not clever enough for that that's okay for the first time
Lando has landed not as good admittedly as the Vegas race when he said what first happens in Vegas

(01:12:04):
and I was like how long did you have that banked how long had you been planning that that is very
funny made me enjoy that anyway Lando has landed and we are we're done I don't we don't have
anything clever for ours we just we're out we're out peace you

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