August 16, 2025 • 13 mins
Check the weekly cosmic weather with Paulina and Jez with a tarot spread for this week ahead.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome to Romanistan .
We're your friendlyneighborhood gypsies.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm Paulina and I'm Jez and we are here for the
tarot of for the week of oh, oh,what week are we going to be?
What are we doing?
What are we doing For the weekof the 18th of august 2025?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
yay, so, paulina, you drew some cards for love, money
and overall message yeah, theonly thing is we did get some
repeat cards, so I'm like whatthe hell?
Like this is a real clearmessage that the universe wants
(00:47):
us to focus on that, and myvoice broke right at the clear
message part maybe it's not thatclear yet.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Maybe we're still trying to figure it out.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So what's?
What's the card for love thisweek?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
so we get the king of cups.
So I interpret it same way.
We get this masculine energykind of you know, king energy,
water, energy, abundance, loveflowy.
You know, cups are very waterelement, so it's about going
with the flow, seeing where ittakes you, but also, I think,
(01:31):
leading with compassion andbeing that like as a message for
yourself.
It's like about you know,finding a way to guide people
and look past the chaos.
Like of all the other kings, Iguess all the other suits, water
is very just like a flowy kindof you know, go with the flow
(01:53):
element basically.
And so I feel like that's kindof the advice, um, and just how
to go about things try to becompassionate and patient and
see where it takes you we doneed a lot of compassion.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I think I've been keep thinking about how
compassion keeps us human, butcompassion also keeps us like
crying when.
When are the people we lovesuffer?
When we're watching the news orsomething, but it's how we know
we're still human.
So, okay, I'm really curiousbecause we haven't really talked
about this before.
But as a non-binary babe, Ilike to try to figure out like
(02:30):
other ways to talk about genderin the cards, because I think
masculine and feminine energy islike a thing and also it's a
spectrum, but people mightidentify with it differently.
And sometimes I think about theking as like all the kings, as
maybe being figures where youare doing the work of this
(02:50):
archetype and you're sharing itor you're meant to somehow like
teach it or like do it out inthe world or, like you know,
spread it around somehow,whereas the queen energy maybe
she's doing that, but like theprimary reason you're doing it
is for yourself.
It's a little more likeself-contained, self-possessed
or maybe inward looking, whichis how sometimes I see those,
(03:14):
like that difference betweenking and queen.
What do you think of that?
Like what makes the king ofcups a different energy than the
queen of cups for you?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
a different energy than the queen of cups for you.
It's weird because I feel likeI think I flow through myself,
identifying between moremasculine and more feminine,
like with my own, like actions,with the way I dress, like just
things like that.
And I think there's a level.
When I hear masculinity, I'mlike yeah, like I'm definitely
in my masculine right now, likewhat I mean and like I have to
(03:49):
be.
And then when I hear the queenenergy, I'm kind of like okay, I
am in my like fierce queenenergy.
Patriarchy has allowed for, orpatriarchy has basically like
created this, you know energythat, like a person in powers
(04:11):
has this like masculine energy,which I I don't believe is true.
It still just kind of feelsthat way.
Like, even if I'm receiving aqueen energy, there's still a
slight level of masculine energyto it for me, um, personally,
but when I'm looking at it, liketowards other people, sometimes
like it's different and I feellike the pages are more like
(04:33):
fluid, I think for some.
I don't really know why.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I totally feel that, too, like a more natural feeling
.
Like you know what I mean, yeah, and they feel more childlike
to me too, yeah, so so that's myroundabout way to also to give
you my thoughts on this card forour love.
This week, maybe all of us arethinking of ways to be generous
(04:59):
and compassionate leaders andmaybe model the kinds of
communication or love andaffection that we want to see in
our relationships.
It's like you might take on alittle bit of a teacher or guide
role, not to say that there hasto be like a power imbalance
between, like you and yourpartner or your friends or the
(05:21):
other people you're in closerelationship with, but if you
are learning lessons aboutyourself, maybe you're taking
the initiative to share that andlike direct a conversation or
initiate some, like learning orhealing or processing.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I really like that learning or healing or
processing.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I really like that.
What came up for money?
We got the page of cups.
Yeah, I think these are tworepeats from the last two weeks.
Yeah, what is that for?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
you for money.
So I feel like so what isinteresting?
So I want to talk about thenext card too.
Yes, I just found itinteresting that we did get two
pages Again.
Did we have the Page of Wandslast time?
I?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
don't think so.
I think it was the Page of Cups, I think.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It's still interesting.
We got two pages like Page ofCups, and then we get the page
of wands.
So I feel like I'm justthinking like for me, pages do
represent in general, kind ofthis like free, spirited energy.
So when we talk about the pageof cups for money, again, cups
are water, so it's telling youhow to go forward with it, like
it's telling you what to do,like the money's gonna flow in.
(06:41):
Is it gonna trickle in?
Is it gonna waterfall in?
Is it gonna fire hose in?
Hopefully we're praying forthat, though.
Wherever we want to be drenched, yes, um, so that's kind of how
I feel about that.
But then, when it comes to theguidance, it's a page of wands,
which is fire, and wands areabout control.
(07:04):
So why are we getting fire likeand water when it comes?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
to guys.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Differencing in difference is very opposite, but
I think it's like overall umlead when it comes to money and
when it comes to love, let itflow, you know, let it trickle
in, like you know, guide, be, doall those things with
compassion.
But when it comes to theguidance card, it's very fire,
(07:30):
very wands, very control, butalso still creative, childlike.
So then it's like but don't gooverboard with it.
Like, don don't drown yourself,but allow that kind of
passionate fire fury to come outwhen it needs to still be
present, with your boundariesStill I guess I hate using these
(07:52):
words because I sound like mymom but like, put your foot down
when you need to.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Mom, muslim is important, yeah, yeah.
No, I love that, though,because okay.
So I was just thinking, too,how I just learned that Mercury
retrogrades, like they're alwaysin the same element, and, uh,
we just are.
We're as recording now, um,we're still in mercury
retrograde and then by the timethis is released, we will be out
(08:21):
of retrograde period.
But, um, mercury wentretrograde in a fire sign in leo
and it was like leaving cancerand it was going from this like
watery, kind of like expressive,um, intuitive, emotional sign
into this like fiery action sign, and everything got like
(08:43):
boiling, like the water was likeheated up, and these little
pages are kind of doing the samething.
And so, maybe aroundrelationships and money, right
now, it's important to beintuitive and heart led and
really be guided.
I was giving readings allweekend and a lot of people were
asking about career andrelationships and for whatever
(09:03):
reason.
The theme was very much likewhat do you feel?
Like you should do?
Because sometimes my readingsare very much like okay, this is
what you should be doing orthinking about, but a lot of the
cards were redirecting peopleto really think about like, what
are you actually feeling?
Like, can you tell?
Like, can you tell what you'refeeling, called to and we talked
a lot about like how do youdistinguish between anxiety and
(09:24):
intuition in the body?
They're definitely differentfeelings or experiences.
You might feel them indifferent places and at the same
time.
It's supposed to direct us totake action, but because it's
still a page of wands for ouroverall guidance, it's still
like playful and experimentativeand like you're still like
(09:44):
testing things out and maybeit's relatively light, it
doesn't have to be so serious,but it does have to be a little
feisty and a little likeboundaries bitch totally.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I totally agree with that and that is really
interesting what's happeninguniversally.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I'm having fun learning more about astrology.
I did not grow up with any kindof astrology study.
This is just something I'menjoying as an adult.
Did you do astrology in your?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
household.
My mom loves astrology and Idabbled in it.
But it was kind of that samething Like astrology.
It wasn't all astrology, it wasmore like it was trickled in,
pieces of it were trickled inwithin.
You know horoscopes and like,and the page of cups and you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That's more familiar to me too, like my family
definitely like cared about oursun signs and things like that
and we'd talk about that or talkabout, you know, associations
with cards, but I wasn't likedoing anyone's chart or anything
.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I have to tell you something.
Okay, I was doing laundry withmy girls and right outside the
laundromat, like they werearguing with each other, and my
littlest one was like of courseyou know you have to try to take
the front seat because you're astubborn scorpio, and everyone
(11:04):
in the parking lot was crackingup and I was like, well, you're
an airheaded aries and I'm like,of course they keep doing it,
they keep saying this, and she'slike and you're not even
compassionate, because allScorpios are not compassionate
and like just all these badthings about each other's sign,
like over and over again.
(11:25):
And I was like, I was like I'mactually proud of them right now
.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I was laughing so bad , so accurately laughing so bad.
That's so funny.
Yeah, you know, I kind of thatis a really fun way to roast,
though, because the likequote-unquote worst traits of
all the science.
They really are like rough,obviously like not really
(11:52):
reflective of how people butthat is so fucking funny.
I am like a crybaby you knowwhat I mean?
Yeah, no, I relate to some Leobehavior.
There might be a little vanityand pride here, yeah, so we hope
(12:15):
that you all have a wonderfulweek and if you have any
questions about divination oranything kind of even related to
what we talk about here, we arehaving fun doing these little
short weekly week aheadforecasts, so feel free to write
in if you have questions.
We can also answer a questionif you have them.
Otherwise, we'll just tell youwhat to look forward to in the
next week.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Thank you guys, we love you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
thank you for listening to romanistan podcast
you can find us on instagramtiktok blue sky and facebook at
romanistan podcast and ontwitter at romanistan pod to
support us, join our patreon forextra content or donate to our
coffee fundraiser, ko-ficombackslash romanistan, and please
(13:07):
rate, review and subscribe.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
it helps us so much follow jez on instagram at
jasminavantila and Paulina atRomani Holistic.
You can get our book Secrets ofRomani Fortune Telling online
or wherever books are sold.
Visit romanistanpodcastcom forevents, educational resources,
(13:32):
merch and more.
Email us at romanistanpodcastat gmailcom for inquiries.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Romanistan is hosted by Jasmina Vantila and Paulina
Stevens, conceived of by PaulinaStevens, edited by Victor,
bianca and D'Aluna, with musicby Victor and artwork by Elijah
Vardo.
Welcome to Romanistan .
We're your friendlyneighborhood gypsies.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm Paulina and I'm Jez and we are here for the
tarot of for the week of oh, oh,what week are we going to be?
What are we doing?
What are we doing For the weekof the 18th of august 2025?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
yay, so, paulina, you drew some cards for love, money
and overall message yeah, theonly thing is we did get some
repeat cards, so I'm like whatthe hell?
Like this is a real clearmessage that the universe wants
(00:47):
us to focus on that, and myvoice broke right at the clear
message part maybe it's not thatclear yet.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Maybe we're still trying to figure it out.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So what's?
What's the card for love thisweek?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
so we get the king of cups.
So I interpret it same way.
We get this masculine energykind of you know, king energy,
water, energy, abundance, loveflowy.
You know, cups are very waterelement, so it's about going
with the flow, seeing where ittakes you, but also, I think,
(01:31):
leading with compassion andbeing that like as a message for
yourself.
It's like about you know,finding a way to guide people
and look past the chaos.
Like of all the other kings, Iguess all the other suits, water
is very just like a flowy kindof you know, go with the flow
(01:53):
element basically.
And so I feel like that's kindof the advice, um, and just how
to go about things try to becompassionate and patient and
see where it takes you we doneed a lot of compassion.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I think I've been keep thinking about how
compassion keeps us human, butcompassion also keeps us like
crying when.
When are the people we lovesuffer?
When we're watching the news orsomething, but it's how we know
we're still human.
So, okay, I'm really curiousbecause we haven't really talked
about this before.
But as a non-binary babe, Ilike to try to figure out like
(02:30):
other ways to talk about genderin the cards, because I think
masculine and feminine energy islike a thing and also it's a
spectrum, but people mightidentify with it differently.
And sometimes I think about theking as like all the kings, as
maybe being figures where youare doing the work of this
(02:50):
archetype and you're sharing itor you're meant to somehow like
teach it or like do it out inthe world or, like you know,
spread it around somehow,whereas the queen energy maybe
she's doing that, but like theprimary reason you're doing it
is for yourself.
It's a little more likeself-contained, self-possessed
or maybe inward looking, whichis how sometimes I see those,
(03:14):
like that difference betweenking and queen.
What do you think of that?
Like what makes the king ofcups a different energy than the
queen of cups for you?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
a different energy than the queen of cups for you.
It's weird because I feel likeI think I flow through myself,
identifying between moremasculine and more feminine,
like with my own, like actions,with the way I dress, like just
things like that.
And I think there's a level.
When I hear masculinity, I'mlike yeah, like I'm definitely
in my masculine right now, likewhat I mean and like I have to
(03:49):
be.
And then when I hear the queenenergy, I'm kind of like okay, I
am in my like fierce queenenergy.
Patriarchy has allowed for, orpatriarchy has basically like
created this, you know energythat, like a person in powers
(04:11):
has this like masculine energy,which I I don't believe is true.
It still just kind of feelsthat way.
Like, even if I'm receiving aqueen energy, there's still a
slight level of masculine energyto it for me, um, personally,
but when I'm looking at it, liketowards other people, sometimes
like it's different and I feellike the pages are more like
(04:33):
fluid, I think for some.
I don't really know why.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I totally feel that, too, like a more natural feeling
.
Like you know what I mean, yeah, and they feel more childlike
to me too, yeah, so so that's myroundabout way to also to give
you my thoughts on this card forour love.
This week, maybe all of us arethinking of ways to be generous
(04:59):
and compassionate leaders andmaybe model the kinds of
communication or love andaffection that we want to see in
our relationships.
It's like you might take on alittle bit of a teacher or guide
role, not to say that there hasto be like a power imbalance
between, like you and yourpartner or your friends or the
(05:21):
other people you're in closerelationship with, but if you
are learning lessons aboutyourself, maybe you're taking
the initiative to share that andlike direct a conversation or
initiate some, like learning orhealing or processing.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I really like that learning or healing or
processing.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I really like that.
What came up for money?
We got the page of cups.
Yeah, I think these are tworepeats from the last two weeks.
Yeah, what is that for?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
you for money.
So I feel like so what isinteresting?
So I want to talk about thenext card too.
Yes, I just found itinteresting that we did get two
pages Again.
Did we have the Page of Wandslast time?
I?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
don't think so.
I think it was the Page of Cups, I think.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It's still interesting.
We got two pages like Page ofCups, and then we get the page
of wands.
So I feel like I'm justthinking like for me, pages do
represent in general, kind ofthis like free, spirited energy.
So when we talk about the pageof cups for money, again, cups
are water, so it's telling youhow to go forward with it, like
it's telling you what to do,like the money's gonna flow in.
(06:41):
Is it gonna trickle in?
Is it gonna waterfall in?
Is it gonna fire hose in?
Hopefully we're praying forthat, though.
Wherever we want to be drenched, yes, um, so that's kind of how
I feel about that.
But then, when it comes to theguidance, it's a page of wands,
which is fire, and wands areabout control.
(07:04):
So why are we getting fire likeand water when it comes?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
to guys.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Differencing in difference is very opposite, but
I think it's like overall umlead when it comes to money and
when it comes to love, let itflow, you know, let it trickle
in, like you know, guide, be, doall those things with
compassion.
But when it comes to theguidance card, it's very fire,
(07:30):
very wands, very control, butalso still creative, childlike.
So then it's like but don't gooverboard with it.
Like, don don't drown yourself,but allow that kind of
passionate fire fury to come outwhen it needs to still be
present, with your boundariesStill I guess I hate using these
(07:52):
words because I sound like mymom but like, put your foot down
when you need to.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Mom, muslim is important, yeah, yeah.
No, I love that, though,because okay.
So I was just thinking, too,how I just learned that Mercury
retrogrades, like they're alwaysin the same element, and, uh,
we just are.
We're as recording now, um,we're still in mercury
retrograde and then by the timethis is released, we will be out
(08:21):
of retrograde period.
But, um, mercury wentretrograde in a fire sign in leo
and it was like leaving cancerand it was going from this like
watery, kind of like expressive,um, intuitive, emotional sign
into this like fiery action sign, and everything got like
(08:43):
boiling, like the water was likeheated up, and these little
pages are kind of doing the samething.
And so, maybe aroundrelationships and money, right
now, it's important to beintuitive and heart led and
really be guided.
I was giving readings allweekend and a lot of people were
asking about career andrelationships and for whatever
(09:03):
reason.
The theme was very much likewhat do you feel?
Like you should do?
Because sometimes my readingsare very much like okay, this is
what you should be doing orthinking about, but a lot of the
cards were redirecting peopleto really think about like, what
are you actually feeling?
Like, can you tell?
Like, can you tell what you'refeeling, called to and we talked
a lot about like how do youdistinguish between anxiety and
(09:24):
intuition in the body?
They're definitely differentfeelings or experiences.
You might feel them indifferent places and at the same
time.
It's supposed to direct us totake action, but because it's
still a page of wands for ouroverall guidance, it's still
like playful and experimentativeand like you're still like
(09:44):
testing things out and maybeit's relatively light, it
doesn't have to be so serious,but it does have to be a little
feisty and a little likeboundaries bitch totally.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I totally agree with that and that is really
interesting what's happeninguniversally.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I'm having fun learning more about astrology.
I did not grow up with any kindof astrology study.
This is just something I'menjoying as an adult.
Did you do astrology in your?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
household.
My mom loves astrology and Idabbled in it.
But it was kind of that samething Like astrology.
It wasn't all astrology, it wasmore like it was trickled in,
pieces of it were trickled inwithin.
You know horoscopes and like,and the page of cups and you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That's more familiar to me too, like my family
definitely like cared about oursun signs and things like that
and we'd talk about that or talkabout, you know, associations
with cards, but I wasn't likedoing anyone's chart or anything
.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I have to tell you something.
Okay, I was doing laundry withmy girls and right outside the
laundromat, like they werearguing with each other, and my
littlest one was like of courseyou know you have to try to take
the front seat because you're astubborn scorpio, and everyone
(11:04):
in the parking lot was crackingup and I was like, well, you're
an airheaded aries and I'm like,of course they keep doing it,
they keep saying this, and she'slike and you're not even
compassionate, because allScorpios are not compassionate
and like just all these badthings about each other's sign,
like over and over again.
(11:25):
And I was like, I was like I'mactually proud of them right now
.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I was laughing so bad , so accurately laughing so bad.
That's so funny.
Yeah, you know, I kind of thatis a really fun way to roast,
though, because the likequote-unquote worst traits of
all the science.
They really are like rough,obviously like not really
(11:52):
reflective of how people butthat is so fucking funny.
I am like a crybaby you knowwhat I mean?
Yeah, no, I relate to some Leobehavior.
There might be a little vanityand pride here, yeah, so we hope
(12:15):
that you all have a wonderfulweek and if you have any
questions about divination oranything kind of even related to
what we talk about here, we arehaving fun doing these little
short weekly week aheadforecasts, so feel free to write
in if you have questions.
We can also answer a questionif you have them.
Otherwise, we'll just tell youwhat to look forward to in the
next week.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Thank you guys, we love you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
thank you for listening to romanistan podcast
you can find us on instagramtiktok blue sky and facebook at
romanistan podcast and ontwitter at romanistan pod to
support us, join our patreon forextra content or donate to our
coffee fundraiser, ko-ficombackslash romanistan, and please
(13:07):
rate, review and subscribe.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
it helps us so much follow jez on instagram at
jasminavantila and Paulina atRomani Holistic.
You can get our book Secrets ofRomani Fortune Telling online
or wherever books are sold.
Visit romanistanpodcastcom forevents, educational resources,
(13:32):
merch and more.
Email us at romanistanpodcastat gmailcom for inquiries.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Romanistan is hosted by Jasmina Vantila and Paulina
Stevens, conceived of by PaulinaStevens, edited by Victor,
bianca and D'Aluna, with musicby Victor and artwork by Elijah
Vardo.
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