42: The Power of the Pause w/ Karen Bartholomew | Healing Burnout, Feminine Energy, & Conscious Living - Rooted & Rising: Stories of Transformation, Intuition, and Soul-Led Healing

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SPEAKER_05 (00:00):
In a world that glorifies achievement and doing,
what happens when we finallystop and pause?
In today's episode, we're divinginto a conversation that invites
you to breathe, to notice, andto remember that wisdom often
lives in the space betweenaction.
So let's get started.
Welcome to Rooted in Rising.

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I'm your host, Tara Michelle,intuitive guide, storyteller,
and fellow traveler on this wildpath of becoming.
This is a space for the soulled, for the ones unraveling old
stories tending to their healingand rising, not perfectly, but
powerfully into who they arehere to be.
Here we explore what it means tolive with intention, to love

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with depth, and to trust thateven the hard things are shaping
us.
I'll share pieces of my ownjourney, the cracks, the beauty,
the breakthroughs, and invitevoices who are walking this path
too.
Because I believe life isn'thappening to us, it's happening
for us.
So come as you are, root in andrise up.
And thank you.

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Truly thank you for being here.
Welcome back to Rooted inRising.
So good to be with all of youagain.
I have a very special guesttoday, Karen Bartholomew, a
transformational coach andcreator of the pause method,
guiding people to slow down,reconnect, and realign with what
truly matters.

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Together, we explore how thesimple act of pausing can shift

everything (01:30):
your perspective, your energy, and even your path
forward.
So let's take a breath.
And this is the power of thepause unrooted in rising.
I'm so excited to be here withyou, Karen.
Thank you so much for joining uson the show.
And I'm excited to talk to youabout the power of the pause.

SPEAKER_01 (01:49):
Yeah, I'm honored to be here.
I love sharing this message toget it out there so we can have
this big movement of womenacross the United States and
outside of the United States.
100%.

SPEAKER_05 (02:01):
Tell me, so tell tell the listeners, tell myself,
tell us more about who you are.
And I I want to hear more aboutyour story and how you got here
and really, you know, how yougot connected to this, to this
work and what you've created.

SPEAKER_01 (02:13):
Yeah.
So, you know, I've been in themortgage business for like
almost 20 years now.
And um it was, it's been greatto be in that um in that space.
However, like I, you know, ittakes me back to like when I was
12 years old and you know, uh mymom, I'm one of five.

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I have two brothers, one 15months older, one 18 months
younger.
And, you know, and you know,she, you know, parents do the
best they can.
They love us in the way thatthey are able to love us, right?
However, the boys were favored.
Let me tell you.
Yeah.
And, you know, and then therewas another, you know, my sister
was born six years younger thanme, and then another one 12

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years younger than me.
So by the time I was 12 and shecame and told us all that she
was pregnant again, you know, Ialready, in my own mind, my own
imagination, I decided thatthere was enough love in the
house for me.
And so when she was gonna haveanother one, she announced that
she was having another one.
I'm like, oh my God, I ran tothe bathroom, locked myself in
the bathroom, you know, justfell on the floor and started

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crying because I'm like, wheredo I fit into this family
anymore?

SPEAKER_05 (03:20):
It was one of those things that people and you were
the were you the oldest, or whatwhat number are you?
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (03:27):
Yeah.
So, you know, I didn't know whatthat all meant, but I know that
as I left the house and wentinto the adult world and like
not knowing how to adult, justtrying to survive and figure it
out.

SPEAKER_05 (03:38):
All of us, yes.

SPEAKER_01 (03:39):
Yeah.
I mean, like I, you know, I Ifigured it out later in 2010,
like what all that was, why Ikept like attracting the same
men, why relationships didn'twork out, you know, why the same
jobs and blah blah blah.
And I just kind of got sick ofme, like seriously, like I am
sick of this.
I was a mom of three smallchildren, a single mom with a

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newborn, a five-year-old, and an11-year-old.
And that's and yeah, I'm like,that's a whole nother.

SPEAKER_05 (04:07):
I was gonna say that's a whole nother episode.
I'm a single mom, so I knowthat's a whole nother episode,
especially with three.
I'm like, when I see singlewomen with, you know, you know,
one or more, not even one, butwhen you have more, I'm like,
how I know what it takes to havethe one.
And I don't know how y'all doit, but keep going.
Keep going.

SPEAKER_01 (04:24):
Well, you know, you know, I just learned how to get
really structured and organized.
Um I would had the opportunityto actually stay home with my
last one for five years after mydivorce.
And then when she got infull-time school, I decided to
go back to work.
That's when I got in themortgage business.
Um, but I really I had anopportunity.
This amazing friend of mineasked me to take this class.

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And just because I was so sickof me, I'm like, whatever it
takes, I don't care.
Like, I need to take something.
I need to take something out.

SPEAKER_04 (04:51):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (04:52):
And so I took this class and I was really able to
find out how I played life.
Like seriously, I knew answers,but I wasn't speaking up.
I wasn't using my voice.
I was in the background saying,you know, you know, if this was
the apprentice, back because theapprentice was on then.
Right.
Back then.
I hired all those people.
And one of the facilitatorsheard me say this and said,
Well, then why aren't you upthere?

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I'm like, whoa, like a dagger tomy heart, right?
And I'm like, why am I not upthere?
Right?
Why am I not leading from thefront and just staying small in
the back, right?

SPEAKER_03 (05:23):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (05:23):
Um, something told me to do that.
Like, and I had to look back atthat and go, where did that come
from?
Well, it came from me, you know,figuring that I wasn't loved and
I didn't matter and I didn'thave any value.
And so I just played reallysmall all my life, you know, and
then I was like, this isridiculous.
What I learned was it was justall in my mind.
Right.
You know, my brain is here toprotect me, right?

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And like keep me safe.
And that was to keep me small,because those are the words that
I created stories out of, and Itook that into the adult world.
So what I realized was like, youknow, they're just words.
And maybe that was all true if Ilook back and find pick up the
evidence to go, yeah, I know whyI made up those, you know,
stories.

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But like, that's not true todaybecause when I look around, I do
matter.
I had three amazing children.
I was actually teaching angermanagement for you know
adolescents.
I was, you know, um in smallclaims corp doing being a
mediator.
I was putting on trainings, youknow, for the community, like to
be able to communicate more.
And I realized I didn't look atall the accomplishments I had

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because I was so busy livinglife.
Right.
You know, and so I really got totake a look at how I was playing
life and mentally and physicallytake it on and take some
leadership courses.
And I went on this four-monthpause to go, I'm taking me on.

SPEAKER_04 (06:42):
I love that.

SPEAKER_01 (06:43):
And when I started that journey, what I found out
by me changing my story andactually really living in truth,
I really didn't have anything tofear because fear comes from our
past forward.
I don't know what's gonna happenafter we get off this call.
I don't know what's gonna happenwhile we're on this call, right?
No, while we have a what do Ihave to fear?

SPEAKER_05 (07:03):
Yes, right.

SPEAKER_01 (07:04):
So this is when I realized that I went through
this journey and I'm like, Iwant to help other women do that
as well.
And so I became a coach for like10 years.
Um and I did this work, and thenI leveled it up now to actually
help women um, you know, breakfree of the constraints from the
messages we tell ourselves thatwe have brought forward, you

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know, which actually is a lot oflies and it's words we make
stories, the narratives, and allthat stuff.
And so I put this methodologytogether and I'm like, this is
it.
And now I'm like, I'm gonna, youknow, write a little pamphlet
book for women, and I have I'mdoing courses and I'm coaching
and I'm speaking and I'm I'mloving it.
So it's really what I realizedthrough my whole journey of even

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the trauma I had um as a smallchild before 12, um, which is a
whole nother story, that thatwas all happened to me so I can
be here.

SPEAKER_04 (07:59):
Right.
Like even I love that you saythat.

SPEAKER_01 (08:01):
Yeah, even a small child that needed attention that
sat on the wrong lap of adistant relative that actually
abused me.
I'm like, wow, I can look backand go, not my fault.
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (08:14):
Well, you see how it happened for you.
You see how it happened for you.
And that's that's really thepremise of the the the root in
rising, but the root of thispodcast is for us to really get
that life is happening for us,it's not happening to us, even
in those really dark situations.
There's something that it'spropelling and it's pushing you

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to see, right?
To stand in truth.

SPEAKER_01 (08:37):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 (08:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (08:39):
So that's how the pause method, you know, came
about, you know.

SPEAKER_05 (08:42):
Well, yeah, and share more about the pause
because I love when you justsaid you took a pause to then
focus on you.
What say more about that?
Like what when you say that,because obviously when people
hear the word pause, they thinkstop, right?
But in that moment of stop, stopwhat?
And and what are you yeah, tellus more about what you put in

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that moment.
What you doing?

SPEAKER_01 (09:05):
Yeah, so um I had yeah, it's like I had another
moment I remember in my car, youknow, that I was dropping my
kids off probably school.
Um, and I pulled my car over andI was just holding back peers
because my tears because I Icouldn't even remember what made
me happy anymore.
The day that day gave myselfpermission to go, okay, I just

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need to stop.
Right.
I just need to take a momentjust to like just hear my own
thoughts instead of any othernoise, right?

SPEAKER_05 (09:33):
There's so much noise in the world.

SPEAKER_01 (09:34):
So much noise.

SPEAKER_05 (09:35):
Like all day long.
Noise, noise, noise, noise,noise, noise, noise.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (09:38):
Right.
And I don't I don't even knowwhat my truth, I don't even know
what I'm saying to myselfanymore, because I'm just going,
going, going.
And because I came from thatspace, I was people pleasing all
the time and saying yes toeverything.
And then I was just so busy andso exhausted.
I'm like, whoa, right.
And so that moment changedeverything for me because, you
know, I talked about, you know,the the the wonderful man that,

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you know, told me of the class.
But um, what I can say is that Irealized in that constraint I
was living in, right?
That that was what was drivingmy life.
And if I really wanted toredesign my life for myself and
for my kids, because once Istarted redesigning, it just
happened.

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I didn't even have to doanything with them.
I just became this differentperson, right?
Out of this loving place.
Um, and before that, I was justdoing all the things, raising my
kids, building my career in themortgage world, managing
everybody else's needs,everybody but my own.
And so I just really needed totake a moment to stop for a
moment and look at, yes, I hadall the success, but I was

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depleted.
And so my first pause waswalking to the mailbox.
Just walking down the road tothe mailbox, just to go, what do
I need today?

SPEAKER_04 (10:53):
I love that.

SPEAKER_01 (10:54):
It will make me see joy today.
And so that's where it started,actually.
Um that's where the journeybegan.
It gave me permission.
I gave myself permission to juststop the noise, maybe say no to
a couple things.
And what I realized by pausingall the time was that I now look

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at this and go, if somethingcomes into my life, I'm like, is
that aligned with the designthat I have moving forward for
my family, for myself, mycareer, and for my sacred time
with me.
And if the answer is no in anyarea, then no is no.

SPEAKER_05 (11:33):
And that's the hard part right there.

SPEAKER_01 (11:35):
Oh yeah.
Totally.

SPEAKER_05 (11:38):
Yeah, because I love when you say is desire where I'm
going, what I want.
Yeah.
You know, that that dream orthat vision that I have.

SPEAKER_01 (11:52):
Yeah, I mean, we live yeah, we live in a culture
that rewards busy and glorifiesexhaustion, basically.
Right.
We really do, right?
Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
From six o'clock in the morninguntil nine o'clock at night,
we're so tired, we we're justexhausted.

SPEAKER_05 (12:07):
Exhausted.

SPEAKER_01 (12:08):
Causing can feel really rebellious in the world.
But my quote that I say all thetime: slowing down isn't falling
behind.
It's catching up to who you werealways meant to be.
And in order to stop and letthat woman come to the surface
again, right?
That feminine woman, right?

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And maybe stop doing somemasculine things that we weren't
designed to do and let someoneelse do those things.
Because I think, especiallysingle woman, you know, single
mom, right?
You can attest to this probably,yep, as most women can.
We take on these masculineroles, and then we're so
masculine that we forget whatthe feminine is.

SPEAKER_05 (12:53):
I'd love for you to share, you know, because I think
when people hear the masculine,I recently had somebody somebody
I was dating, and I hadmentioned him, I you know, when
I'm with you, I I want to be inthe feminine role because I have
to be masculine all the time.
And he said, you don't have tobe masculine for your son,
because he didn't reallyunderstand what I meant by

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masculine.

SPEAKER_03 (13:15):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (13:16):
Right.
So I want you to share with thelisteners when you say,
especially single moms or evensingle dads that might be
listening, when you talk aboutthat masculine and that feminine
energy, talk about what youknow, what does that mean?
How did that show up for you?
I know how it shows up for me,but how'd that show up for you?

SPEAKER_01 (13:32):
Yeah, well, a couple things.
So in business, right, it showedup because I had my own business
and I had to like bring thatdominant personality out so I
could run a business.
All the time, right?

SPEAKER_04 (13:43):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (13:43):
Okay, so in doing that, right, and then running
the household as well, right?
Sometimes it dips into that.
So what happened was people sawme the strong woman, right?
No room for a man to even comeinto my life because I had it
all, I had it all taken care of.

SPEAKER_05 (13:58):
Have it all figured out, yep.

SPEAKER_01 (13:59):
Have it all figured out, right?
And I'm like, no, I don't.
Like when I go home, I'm not I'mnot this strong woman, right?
And so there's two, not that I'msaying that I'm two different
people.
No, I know what you mean.
You if you were to come into myhome versus work, you would I
would be the one at home going,Are you comfortable?
Do you need a blanket?
Let's do a fire pit.
Do you have wine?
Do you need what do you need,right?
I'm that supportive woman, thatfeminine woman that wants to

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take care of nurture everybody.
Nurture, right?

SPEAKER_04 (14:24):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (14:24):
And so I was able to do both, but when I'm out in the
world, I nobody ever would askme out since I was single for 26
years.
Um, you know, uh, so because Iwas carrying that masculine
energy.
And so, and in the businessworld, as women can you know
attest to, um, if we aredominant or we are, you know, um

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really like out there, we'rebeing told we're aggressive.
Yeah, right.
And then we're being told we'rethat boss B, right?

SPEAKER_05 (14:57):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (14:58):
Um, instead of the boss babe.
I was gonna say, not a bossbabe, boss bitch, yeah.
The boss bitch, okay.
I don't know what you sayinstead of me, just in case.
Um, but you know what?
No, the man does that and he'slike, oh, it's great.
Like he can do whatever hewants, and you get whatever,
right?
Right.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no,no.
Like, and so the feminine in thecorporate world, like what I'm
saying is we hide behind, like,we're pregnant, we gotta hide in

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the conference room, we gotta goto the bathroom and hide that
we're you know, throwing up inour first trimester, right?
Right.
And I know this because mydaughter is pregnant right now,
which I'm so excited about.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
It's exciting, and yes, thankyou, thank you.
And so, um, yeah, so it's likebeing able to bring that
feminine out, walk aroundagainst your around your
employees, ask them how they'redoing, right?

SPEAKER_05 (15:41):
Like bring that nurturing, caring piece up
because what I'm hearing too,like what you're saying is it's
okay to ask for help.

SPEAKER_01 (15:47):
Yes.
Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05 (15:49):
We're so afraid to ask for help, yes, or we're so
afraid to have people know thatwe need help.
And like I think that's when youstep into a feminine space
because you surrender that needto, I gotta get it done.
I'm the only one that can get itdone.
Nobody else can do it, so I'mgonna do it and I'm gonna do
everything.
And I that's what I hear becauseI know that for myself as a

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single parent.
I tend to forget to like it'sokay for me to say, can you do
the dishes for me?
Yeah, it's okay for you to forme to say, can you drive us to
wherever we're going?
Yes, you know, like can I wouldyou mind opening the door for
me?
Because it really I told we'reno longer dating, but I told
him, I was like, I really loveit when you open the door for

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me.
He's like, really?
I was like, Yeah, it has me feellike a woman.
You know, it's like the simplestthing.
But it's just it's just that onething of feeling like I can just
rest and relax into an energywhere I don't have to be doing,
doing, doing, doing, doing,doing, doing.

SPEAKER_01 (16:49):
Yeah, because here's what happens.
Here's the visual the man that'son his phone and the woman
that's carrying two grocerybags, maybe a kid on her
shoulder on her hip, and pullinga wagon.
No, we don't have that manyhands, but I'm just saying,
right?
It's like, hello, yeah, what'sgoing on here?
Right?

SPEAKER_04 (17:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (17:07):
Like I remember my son when he was at his junior
prom and um I didn't know thegirl they was taking.
Um, and you know, we go to takepictures and she goes to get in
the car.
I'm like, do not touch that.
And I said it in front ofeverybody.
I'm just like, do not touch thatdoor.
Like, dude, get your booty overhere.

SPEAKER_05 (17:26):
Yeah, right?
Open the door for her.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (17:29):
But his dad was there.
Like, dude.
But he wasn't going to, and Iwas not gonna allow my son to be
that guy.

SPEAKER_04 (17:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (17:39):
So he opens the door.
And now, from now on, that'swhat he does.
So there are some things we doneed to teach them.
Yes.
Then after it's like have aconversation with his dad that
says, Hey, you know what?
Next time, can you take that incase?

SPEAKER_05 (17:54):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (17:55):
It's funny you say that because from you, not me.

SPEAKER_05 (17:57):
Right.
Well, and I'm trying to teach myson that now.
You know, there's no man in hislife, unfortunately.
Uh, you know, his dad's notaround, but uh he's just an MIDA
dad.
But I've been trying to teachhim that, you know, like open
doors for people.
And the other day he opened thecar door for me.
And I was like, oh, oh my god,he just opened the door for me.

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But I was like, it's working,you know, it's working.
But and it's it's it's thechivalry piece, but it's also
recognizing, you know, I wastalking to him about when you're
walking out in the world inpublic and walking behind a
woman versus walking in front ofa woman, and and it's that it's
that energy exchange.
And and some people might hearthis as I don't know, there

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might be some women out therethat are like power to the
woman, like I get it, but we'renot talking about that.
I this is like an energetic,this is energy that we're
talking about, and and andactually I want I I'd rather go
phase into back into the pause.
What I'd love for you to talkabout is how can a woman get

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into that pause?
How can she give herselfpermission to be in that pause?
Because I think that's thepiece, is that we we really
struggle because we have it thatthere's a thousand things to do
on my to-do list.
I can't pause.
I can't give myself that spacebecause if I don't, you know,
the wolf is gonna eat my childand the house is gonna collapse

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and the you know, whatever it isthat we think in the world, like
our instinctual mind is likethat that reptilian mind is
going where we just can't stop.
How do you how do you stop?
How do you give yourselfpermission?

SPEAKER_01 (19:36):
Well, the permission, it comes in small
bites.
So, because we're not reallygood about taking care of
ourselves, and the word selfishcomes to play that we're not
supposed to be selfish, right?
So everybody says, you know,don't be selfish, take care of
everybody else, blah, blah,blah, blah.
And we just have a lot ofmessages from our younger years

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that we've brought forwardbasically, and like the word
selfish actually is veryselfless to other people.
Because if you're taking care ofyou, you are taking care of
people so much better.
It's like the oxygen mass thatyou hear when you get on a
plane, right?
Yes.
Like if you don't put yours onfirst, your kids not gonna make
it.
No, because who, no one's gonnacome to the rescue, right?

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No, and so I always say, like,what do you need in the morning?
Just in the morning, if youcould like literally when you
get out of bed, before you doanything else that would be for
anyone else, just to take amoment, right, to ask yourself
just long enough to hear enoughto hear what do I need right
now?

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Do I need a glass of water soI'm not dehydrated?
Do I need to just like go outand get a little bit of vitamin
D, you know, just like look upto the sky?
What do I need for a moment forme so that when my kids get up,
I'm just really grounded andjust can come from a place of
love, right?

SPEAKER_04 (20:56):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (20:56):
Um, because it changes the dynamics in your
home.
You know, it changes thedynamics of with your man,
right?
This is not about men and womenand that, you know, this power
struggle that we have, right?
When we get triggered, that'spip tip typically what people
do, they fight because of apower struggle, right?

SPEAKER_04 (21:12):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (21:12):
Instead of just trying to, you know, take time
to understand the other personwhere they're coming from.
We didn't live in their shoes,we didn't live in their
household, we didn't live intheir schools, right?
Like we they we just don't knowwhat's going on.
And so I just think that, youknow, if we can take a moment to
go, what does my husband needthis morning?
Does he just need me to make hima cup of coffee just to show him

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and give him a kiss goodbye,which maybe hasn't happened in a
while because the busy life ofthe kids, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
See you this afternoon, right?
I mean, it's just small littlethings that people really feel
respected and loved.
It's not these big things,right?
It can just be the smallestlittle thing.
Just walking by someone and justa touch on the shoulder, right?
Um, so I I just think that we'vewe've switched the roles so much

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that we just we we just don'teven know what we need anymore.

SPEAKER_05 (22:01):
That's it.
I was just gonna say, I hear yousaying that we just, yeah, we we
don't stop and ask ourselves,what do we need?
What do I need in this moment?
What do I need today?
You know, it's uh yeah, it's andI think it's very powerful.
I know I have a routine when Iwake up, and one of the things I
say every morning when I wake upis God, show me the truth of
myself and show me the truth ofothers.

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And that's what I need everyday, you know?
And then I have to remember whenGod shows me truth of myself,
you know, what is what does thatlook like?
What does that feel like?
What is it that I need to shift,if anything?
But those are things.
And then, you know, then I haveother needs where I have to do
my prayer work and there's otherthings that I have to do, go on

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my walk, those are things Ineed, you know.
Um, there's a friend that I talkto when we walk.
I need that.
I enjoy that.
Like, that's like our downtimedecompression, female time, that
bond, right?
Even you know, female bonding,you know?
Or or I don't know, do you needto take yourself on a movie date
by yourself or whatever?

(23:07):
But yeah, I I I do see how we wedefinitely we definitely rob
ourselves of those moments forfear that we might excuse me,
for fear that we might miss onsome task that we think we have
to do.
Because if we don't do the task,the world falls apart.
So we think.

SPEAKER_01 (23:27):
And I know people that I'm coaching that when I
started coaching them, theywanted to control everything,
everything in their household,right?
Right.
Um, for fear of if I don'tcontrol it, I'm gonna lose it.

SPEAKER_05 (23:38):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (23:40):
Um, and it's just it's it's it's it's it's not a
great place to live because umlet's like look at why the
control is there.
Why can't you just let people bewho they are, right?
Um, it's like what are you infear of by letting go of a
little control?

(24:01):
Is it your own thinking becauseyou don't want to revisit what
might come in that gap, right?
I mean, without you know,because people will like get in
a very strange space with that.
But what I say, if you gettriggered by something, control
is not the answer.
It's like taking that triggerand go, let me figure out what's
between the trigger and myreaction, because that's really

(24:22):
the real work, the real journeyhappens.
Yes.
Why am I getting triggered onthat?
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (24:26):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (24:27):
And then it doesn't become a power play of you
fighting to try to, you know,the power between, you know, two
people.

SPEAKER_04 (24:32):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (24:33):
Um, it's like, let's get into that.
Let's like dive in.
Like, when do you remembergetting triggered like that in
the past?
Like just take a moment and whenwas the first time you remember
that, right?

SPEAKER_04 (24:43):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (24:44):
And it takes people back to a place that, you know,
typically in their childhoodwhere they didn't feel safe or
they were told they weren'tenough, or you know, they they
didn't belong, or you weren'tgood at painting, or you weren't
good at dancing, so don't dothat, you know.
And then we just give up ourdreams, you know, and then we
just become this complacentperson that everybody has told
us who to be by the programmingfrom everybody else in our

(25:06):
world.

SPEAKER_05 (25:06):
Everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 (25:06):
You go out in the adult world, you don't even know
who you are.

SPEAKER_05 (25:09):
No, because you've been told of who you should be
the entire time from the momentyou're born before you're born.
Yes, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (25:17):
So you can imagine, right?
That if somebody had a lot oftrauma and they felt danger in
their world, they come out intothe world as an adult, and it
could be generations of notfeeling safe.
Because the brain wants to keepthings right, it's gonna you're
gonna attract all those thingsthat keep your thinking right.

(25:37):
I'm not safe.
You're gonna attract what's notsafe.
So you can say I'm right, right?
But the the being right iscosting you and costing others.
So what's the cost?
And so the pause method really,you know, when I take you
through it, it's really startswith asking that question,
right?
Identifying what thatsubconscious belief is that

(25:58):
defined the action that we have,that's shaping the current
situation in which you'reliving.

SPEAKER_05 (26:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (26:05):
That's where it starts.
And so I have people ask thequestion, what story am I
telling myself right now?
And is it rooted in truth today?
Which some people are like, Idon't know what my truth is
because it's so varied, or pastconditioning.
And so that's that first phasebecause awareness of what's
happening is the first step tofreedom in today's world.

SPEAKER_05 (26:29):
100%.

SPEAKER_01 (26:30):
So that's how the pause started.
That's the journey I went onfirst to find out how am I
playing life, right?
And is it in alignment with whatI really want?

SPEAKER_04 (26:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (26:41):
What do I need to leave back there that I don't
need to pick up?
And what actually is working forme that I do want to continue.
Like my dad was a big Whig in itwhere he worked.
Um, he's retired since 1993, buthis moral and ethics and his
work ethics were like so like,yes, I picked those up.
That is something I want tocontinue, right?

(27:04):
Yeah.
So that's that was the firststep.

SPEAKER_05 (27:07):
Yeah, it's interesting too, because I think
what I was hearing when you werespeaking earlier, too, is I
think so many people don't evenknow what they really want.
Because, you know, whether youhave kids or not, we live in a
society and a culture that doesrequire you to do 24-7.
You know, you are constantly inthe doing this of life to pay

(27:31):
the bills, to get to work, tomeet the deadline, to get on the
date, to like it's there's yeah,everything.
Like, you know, when you thinkabout yeah, I I I mean, I'm
gonna date myself here, but whenyou think about where we were
30, 40 years ago in life, wherewe didn't have cell phones, we

(27:54):
had payphones, we didn't evenhave pagers, you know, we we had
records.
We, you know, you you literallyhad to make plans to meet up
with friends.
And and I'm always blown away athow did we all find each other?
Like we didn't even, we wouldjust like we knew where to go to
a local hangout or something,you know what I'm saying?
Like here we're so connected,yeah.

(28:17):
But but there are days when Ithink back to those times and I
think, wow, the world was soless noisy.

SPEAKER_01 (28:25):
It was super noisy.
I remember when we had partyphones.

SPEAKER_05 (28:29):
Well, part right, party phones, but before part,
like yeah, but I mean, it wasless noisy than it is today, is
what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 (28:36):
It's so less noisy, however, I will interject you
there and say we also decided tobuy into that.

SPEAKER_03 (28:45):
True.

SPEAKER_01 (28:46):
Because if you think about it, if I really was to ask
you what are the threepriorities that you need to
accomplish today, it's not ten.
Three.

SPEAKER_05 (28:57):
And if you just get those three done, I'm like,
peace is my number one, Karen.
Peace.

SPEAKER_01 (29:02):
Peace, man, peace.

SPEAKER_05 (29:04):
I need to accomplish peace just to get through the
day.
And if I can accomplish peace,then okay, I can do the next
thing.

SPEAKER_01 (29:11):
Right.
And then I would say, well, whatis the definition of peace for
you?

SPEAKER_05 (29:15):
Oh, good question.
What is the definition of peacefor me?
The definition of peace for meis to not feel that um red line
stress of the deadlines of theday.
That's like if I could just bein the present moment, that's

(29:35):
what allows me to be in peace.
And that can be verychallenging, in my opinion, to
stay in that present moment.
Especially like I have to get upat 5 30.
The boy has to get up at 4 40 or5 45, have to get his lunch,
have to get then.
Then we have to get him toschool by set 6 50 so he can go
then, and then I gotta do this.
And like, if I can keep myselffrom jumping on that hamster

(29:58):
wheel track.
And like, you know, and thenlike my whole day is just like,
oh, if I can just tell myselfI'm gonna get it all done, it's
all gonna work out, however, itworks out, even if it doesn't
work out.
Like if I can keep myself inthat present moment to moment to
moment, that's what peace feelslike to me.

SPEAKER_01 (30:20):
So what I would, you know, suggestion, right?

SPEAKER_05 (30:23):
Yes, challenge.

SPEAKER_01 (30:25):
Challenge, suggestion, challenge.
I always ask permission.
Permission to challenge you.

SPEAKER_05 (30:29):
Yes, please.

SPEAKER_01 (30:31):
So I get that because we all have that with
kids, right?
But you're only giving you 15minutes.
What if you got up at five?

SPEAKER_05 (30:40):
Oh, I'm up at 4 30 usually.

SPEAKER_01 (30:41):
Whatever it is, right?
Like what well well, but yousaid your son doesn't have to
get up and you don't have to getthings started until 5 30.
So what's going on that likewhen that happens, then instead
of being grounded and justcoming from whatever that space
is of not being soboo-boo-boo-boo-boo-boo, like,
how can you change that morningroutine where you're really

(31:02):
grounded?
And then once you drop them offand you come back, how can you
get five minutes right just todo it again?
Five minutes to do it again.
Yes, right.

SPEAKER_05 (31:11):
And I yes, and I will admit that I do not stay
consistent with my morningroutine of grounding.

SPEAKER_01 (31:16):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (31:17):
And and I and when I'll catch myself, I'll
literally catch myself and say,You are feeling this way because
you didn't do dun, dun, dun.
You didn't do the things youknow to do when your eyeballs
wake up, you know, and and thenyes, giving myself the
permission for the five minutesto step outside out back and
reground or or just be in amoment for fear that you know

(31:42):
that that track starts going,and then I'm like, oh my god, I
gotta keep going, I gotta keepgoing.

SPEAKER_01 (31:47):
How about if we just know that you're gonna be okay?

SPEAKER_05 (31:50):
Right.
No matter what.

SPEAKER_01 (31:52):
No matter what.
You're gonna be okay.
Um, yeah, you're just gonna beokay.

SPEAKER_04 (31:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (31:59):
And you know, this is where mentoring coaching, as
you know, comes in.
It's like the accountabilitypiece.
Nobody wants to be accountablebecause they want to have this
free life to do whatever, butactually it's costing you
something by doing that.

SPEAKER_04 (32:09):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 (32:10):
And so, like, if I was coaching you, I'd be like,
hey, let's have you wake up andtext me at 515, right?
When you've done this 15 minutesfor yourself.
Tell me what you did.

SPEAKER_04 (32:24):
Accountability.

SPEAKER_01 (32:25):
Accountability, like for like literally two weeks,
Monday through Friday, whateverit's gonna be for two weeks.
And after a while, it becomes ahabit.
And you're like, wow, and thenyou get to see the blossoming on
the other side, and like, wow,this feels really good.
I'm gonna keep doing this,right?

SPEAKER_05 (32:39):
Mm-hmm.
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 (32:40):
So, yeah, I mean, it's just it's just challenging
people, right?

SPEAKER_05 (32:43):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (32:44):
To like get to the other side.

SPEAKER_05 (32:45):
To your point, accountability.
I think accountability to everyaspect of your life.
And I think uh we live in a veryunaccountable world.

SPEAKER_01 (32:54):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 (32:54):
Yeah, I think we're programmed to stay
unaccountable.
Um, because then there's uh thisis just my thought, my intuitive
thought right now.
It it allows for total chaos.
And then you you can't think.
You you you you aren't grounded,you're not connected, you're not
aware, and then you're on thathamster wheel and you're just
surviving.

SPEAKER_01 (33:15):
It's exhaustion.
You know, uh someone um Iwatched The Matrix again
recently.
So good.
It's so interesting, right?
And it comes into play here,right?
That you know, it's not oneworld.
No, you create whatever youwant.

SPEAKER_04 (33:27):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (33:28):
Like you just need to stop for a moment to decide
what is what is that gonna looklike.
And you know, and I'm reallygood about doing that now.
You know, I have a coach myself,um, and I had a coach call with
him this morning, and he's like,You're really, really good at
doing that.
He's like, wait a minute, isthis working or not?
Let me stop for a moment.
I just need five minutes.
Let me like put the piecestogether.
And I'm like, yeah, actuallythat that that would kind of

(33:50):
give a trajectory of going inthis direction where I really
want to go.
Okay, we're putting that inplace.
It doesn't take long, it's onelittle thing.
It goes back to that thing.
Like I was dehydrated for 10years and I didn't even know it
because it was so normal for me.

SPEAKER_05 (34:07):
The most people didn't know it, right?

SPEAKER_01 (34:10):
Right.
But then I was challenged todrink water every day, right?
To get healthier.
And so I started drinking waterevery day and I started feeling
really good.
Then I got sick and I gotdehydrated one day.
I'm like, I know what that is.
Bring me some water, right?
But then I had to go, well, howam I gonna drink the water?
Because if you give me a waterbottle, you know, like a bottle

(34:31):
you buy at the store, I it'llsit there.
I won't drink it because I won'tunscrew it and I won't drink it.
Give me a cup with a straw init, I'll drink 10 of them.

SPEAKER_05 (34:38):
Is that the wildest thing?
That's why I bought this.
I bought this Stanley before Ieven understood the whole thing
about Stanley.
And the only thing, the reasonwhy I bought the Stanley is
because at the time I wasworking with a trainer and she's
like, you need at least 63ounces a day.
And I kept thinking, how am Igonna get 63 ounces?
Like, I can't do that.
And I needed the biggest thingwith a straw.

(34:59):
Exactly.
If there's no straw, to yourpoint, I won't drink it.
But if there's and so I knowthat if I drink two of these,
then I've I've met my I've metmy quota.

SPEAKER_01 (35:08):
Right, right.
Yeah, and you feel good becauseyou and it feels better.
Exactly.
So let me tell you what the nextpiece of the pause is.

SPEAKER_05 (35:18):
Yes, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (35:19):
Five pieces, right?
So the next piece is reallyacknowledging and acceptance
where you are like really what'sreal the exhaustion, the fear,
the resentment, right?
And acceptance isn'tresignation, it's just the key
to shifting your perspective.

SPEAKER_04 (35:34):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (35:34):
It's kind of like, okay, I'm looking through rose
carrot glasses.
Maybe there's a blue pair I canlook through.

SPEAKER_05 (35:40):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (35:41):
Like, what's it gonna take you from going from
this version of yourself to theversion you really want over
here?
Right?
Like if we don't start lookingat this stuff, we can't unravel
it so we can get where we wantto get to.

SPEAKER_02 (35:55):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (35:56):
And then after that, it's just really untangling it,
right?
Understanding it, not withjudgment any or any anything,
just really understanding it.
Is it is it fact or is itfiction?
Okay.
Um, what is this b what if thisbelief isn't true?
Because our imagination is sostrong.
We imagine so much, right?

(36:16):
And our imagination just comesfrom words, which becomes the
stories, and then of course webehave and we get our results.
And I have this genie bottle onmy and Aladdin lamp on my desk
that I take with me when I goout and about into the world.
And I just remind people it'slike we all have personal
genies, so be very, very nice toyour personal genie because it
will give you exactly what youthink and feel.

SPEAKER_05 (36:38):
And what you ask for, yes.

SPEAKER_01 (36:40):
Exactly.
So, like be kind to your genie,right?
So, um, yeah, and then you know,what's the situation trying to
teach you?
Like, why am I gettingtriggered?
You know what I mean?
What what do I need to learn?

SPEAKER_05 (36:54):
Yeah, why is it happening for you?

SPEAKER_01 (36:56):
Yeah, the space between the reaction and the
response, right?
That's where the real power is.
When we can just respond withoutreaction, right?
Yes.
Like I remember being in likeboardrooms years ago.
I used to work for, you know, abig corporation, San Francisco,
and I would give myselfpermission to leave when I felt
it in my stomach.
I was feel it in my stomachfirst, right?
And I'm like, you know what?
Lit can I pause for a second?

(37:17):
I just need to run to thebathroom or whatever it was.
Permission when that startsstirring to just leave the room.
Permission when I'm in a roomand isn't feeling any better to
exit the room and go home.

SPEAKER_05 (37:30):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (37:31):
I'm really big in energy and like the vibration
that works around us, right?

SPEAKER_05 (37:37):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (37:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (37:38):
Yeah.
I want people to talk about it.
That's powerful.
Yeah, I want people to talkabout it.
That's powerful because peopledon't listen to their bodies in
that way, and your body isalways talking.
Oh, and your body knows.

SPEAKER_01 (37:49):
People say they want vitality, right?
Well, if you have a belief thatyou're not enough, you're gonna
compensate in different ways.
And it's you're gonna havedisease in your body.
Yes.
Stress, cancer can happen, youknow, just you know, pain,
inflammation.

(38:09):
We're not like taking care ofour bodies.

SPEAKER_02 (38:12):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (38:13):
So um it's kind of like if somebody feels like they
don't belong or they're not partof something, right?
The compensation factor is toisolate yourself and be alone
because you believe that, right?
So that's what you're gonna do.
But if we can break that, right,in what real truth is that you
do belong to something, right?
You are part of something, thenthere's unity.
There's unity in the world,right?

SPEAKER_04 (38:34):
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 (38:37):
Yeah.
So um, so the next the nextpiece of this pie is really
reframing your old belief tothat empowering truth.
Like really like starting tolike you know, take it on,
right?
And so this is a challenge part,you know, where I challenge
people to start doing thingsright so they can see the other
side of it, right?
Because they've never seen itbefore, because it's so buried

(38:59):
in their subconscious, right?
They can't even like imagine.
And so the qu you know, thequestion is if I was free,
whole, worthy, worthy at 100%,how would I show up?

SPEAKER_04 (39:13):
Well, they're gonna look like right.

SPEAKER_01 (39:16):
How would you show up then?
If all that was gone, it'salmost like wiping out your
history.

SPEAKER_04 (39:21):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's a point.

SPEAKER_01 (39:25):
Or what if you, when you sit next to someone in an
airplane, you don't know them,and you have this amazing
conversation, but then your ownpartner, you have so much
history, there's so there's somuch stuff that's happened.
This this true essence ofourselves that sits down here in
the pit of our stomach.
But then we have all thisaccumulation of hurt and piled
up and all these messages andeverything, and it it dims our

(39:46):
light.
Yes.
So the true essence is sittingdown here, but like to do the
work to go, nope, that's nottrue, that's not true, that's
not true, not that's not true.
Then all of a sudden your lightstarts coming up again, and then
you get full of self-expressionin the different world.

SPEAKER_04 (40:00):
Yeah, right.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (40:02):
So that's where we really get to rewrite your
narrative and pivot into the newpossibilities.

SPEAKER_04 (40:08):
Love that.

SPEAKER_01 (40:08):
Because I say in uncertainty, which is everything
in the future of this moment,there are so many possibilities
and opportunities, but we don'tsee them because we've we're so
dimmed.
We've dimmed our light.

SPEAKER_04 (40:22):
Yes, yeah.
You've dimmed your expression.

SPEAKER_05 (40:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (40:26):
Our energy, all of that.

SPEAKER_05 (40:28):
I was just watching uh I don't know if you watched
the series Yellowstone.
Did you see that?

SPEAKER_01 (40:33):
I have seen some of it, yes.

SPEAKER_05 (40:34):
Okay, so I I I totally ignored it when it all
came out.
Everybody was hyping over it.
I was like, whatever.
And then lately I had a friendwho was like, you really need to
watch it.
And of course, I now binged andwatched it over five seasons
over the last two weeks, and andit was it was amazing.
It was so good.
But there was this, there's acharacter in the name in the
show called Beth, and uh, yes,she's she's amazing, right?

(40:58):
And and then you know, KevinCostner plays her dad, and he
said, you know, he made acomment about how good it would
be to be as free as she couldbe, because that girl had zero
filter, full self-expression,had no just like that.

(41:23):
And that's a perfect no matterwhat, right?
Rip loved her no matter what,exactly, right?
And that's like, but that's agreat metaphor for what you just
said.
Like when you remove all thoselayers, you know, and you think
about, you know, you you couldactually look at the characters

(41:44):
in that in that movie, you lookat Jamie, and he was a perfect
version of stacking stuff on topof himself to where he he just
he he became a version ofhimself that was the worst
version of himself, you know,and and then you're not your
fullest self-expression, andyou're living in fear, and
you're making poor choices, andyou're operating from complete

(42:05):
survival, and that and and thenyou will die.
So we all do, yeah.
So, like, which do you want tobe?
Which do you want to be?
You want to be the best or youwant to be the Jamie?

SPEAKER_01 (42:18):
But right, and and let's look at your operating
system, yes, and how you want tochange that operating system
because it's possible, it is, ittakes courage, but it is
possible, it takes courage, ittakes courage, it takes courage.

SPEAKER_05 (42:33):
People think they're stuck, you're not stuck, you're
not, no, you're just in theversion, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (42:39):
You're just in this version, let's get to the other
version, and it's just a bunchof little baby steps.
Yes, you know, nobody's askingyou to go, whoa, you're not
gonna do that, right?
No, no, but like just a babystep.
Yep, just a baby step, just ababy step.
Like you're five minutes afteryou drop off your son, yeah,
five minutes for you.
What do I need for the next twohours?

SPEAKER_05 (42:58):
Yep, right?
Yeah.
Okay, so what's next?
Then what's the next step?
What's next?

SPEAKER_01 (43:03):
And then basically the last piece of the pause is
just practicing it on a dailybasis, like rest, boundaries,
gratitude, reflection, right?
Embodying this new belief and bytaking aligned action.
Remember, I said, is it alignedwith my family, my future, my
business, where I'm going?
If it's not, the answer is no.
Okay.
Because it's probably kind ofand you're always gonna have

(43:23):
that little thing, right?
I mean, I just I do it too.
Like I get in my my headsometimes too.

SPEAKER_04 (43:28):
We're human, we're human.
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (43:30):
But I remember this that I was really precious.
All babies are precious whenthey're born.
We just cry because we needsomething, right?
And somewhere along the line, wedecided we weren't.

SPEAKER_04 (43:41):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (43:42):
And then we go out in the world, we try to look for
it outside of ourselves.

SPEAKER_04 (43:47):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (43:47):
When everything you need is inside of yourself,
everything all the love, right?

SPEAKER_02 (43:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (43:54):
So people, I would love for people to take a
journey for them.
For them.
Even if it's just just take iton for one day, right?
Just go out in nature and justthink.
Go to the beach and just sit andjust see what comes up for you.
It's not gonna change your life.

(44:15):
You know, you're you have agreat, you know, marriage, great
kids, whatever.
It's not that.
It's that when we come from thatloving standpoint, it just
automatically permeates out intothe world.
You don't even have to doanything.
What you see is your kids aredifferent.
So when I was young, I rememberum, you know, my kids, I had
newborn.
And so I went to do somethingand a friend took me and was

(44:37):
bringing me home, and theirbabysitter was there, and I was
crying, and I didn't want mykids to see me like that.
I'm like, no, I have to bestrong for my kids, you know.
Gosh, you know, I don't want tobring this all on them.
Yes.
Can you walk?
Can you drive me around theblock?
She said, sure.
I said one more time, she goes,this will be the last time.
I'm like, okay.
So we get back and I'm like, I'mnot ready to go in.
She goes, listen, you need to goin the house because your kids
need to see that you're sad andthat you're in pain.

(45:00):
If you don't allow them to seethat, then they will never bring
those things to you.

SPEAKER_05 (45:04):
100%.
I fully believe that.
Because I feel that when we tryto protect them from all that,
they don't then learn that thisis this is what life looks like
when life's working, right?
I I have a lot of friends whoare like, well, I'm not gonna
get divorced because for thekids.
And I'm like, so you're gonnashow them what an unhealthy
relationship looks like?

(45:24):
Yes, that's what you're gonnamodel for them?
Yes, okay, that's that's reallyworking.
Hello, you know, or I I guess Iknow my son has seen me, you
know, I don't show himeverything, but I do break down
from time to time so he can seelike, buddy, this is what it
looks like when it's just youand I, and it's not easy.
And uh I'm doing my best, youknow, because this is what life

(45:47):
looks like, and I and and that'show we learn to cope.
We learn coping skills, youknow, and and how to navigate
life when we see the truth ofwhat you know what what it takes
to adult.
Being an adult is not not easy,but yeah, you you've said a lot
today, which is just sopowerful.

SPEAKER_01 (46:05):
Well, I think if there's one thing that I want
women that are listening and mento take away from this, is that
you don't have to earn the rest,you don't need a crisis to
deserve a pause.

SPEAKER_05 (46:16):
Oh, you need to give us you don't need a crisis to
deserve the pause, people.

SPEAKER_01 (46:20):
Yeah, please listen to that.
Give yourself permission to stopperforming for a moment and
start listening to you.

SPEAKER_05 (46:29):
I hear it exhale.
Like, you know, that's funny.
That movie Waiting to Exhale.
That's what I hear.
Yes, and that's what I hear isyou know, when you said, you
know, go for a walk, go to thebeach.
You know, I I I live four hoursfrom the beach now.
I'm in Texas and it's far, butI've yeah, and I you know, we
used to live in Santa Cruz,California, which was amazing

(46:50):
because I could just go to thebeach on the way to work, you
know, and and uh and there issomething to be said.
We do have a lot of water herein Texas, which I do like to go
sit by because there's somethinglike to be said when you said
you just just go sit and be, andand nothing really needs to come
up.
It's just it's just being inthat moment.
And it doesn't mean likeearth-shattering shifts are

(47:12):
gonna happen.
They might, they might not, butthere's something about just
being in the stillness, thestillness of your body in a
moment to just exhale and pause,and then you hear what you need.
Like, so what do I need in thismoment?
It's true, it's so true.
Yeah, it really is so beautiful,yeah.

(47:33):
Wow.
So, Karen, I I love, I love, Ilove this work, and I love you
know the pause method.
It's just it's it's perfect.
I don't know that I've seen itor heard it in that way, and I I
love it because it really isperfect.
It is it is taking that momentfor yourself.
Where can everybody find you?
Well, they're on the website,yes, and and which I'll have

(47:54):
that in the show notes.
And what types of courses areyou currently offering?

SPEAKER_01 (47:58):
So, right now I'm actually just putting together
um the course to actually gothrough a five-week um course
for the pause.
So it's like we'll go throughthe everything that we just went
through in depth, right?
Nice.
It's a group, it's a groupsituation on Zoom.
Um, and then also I have aretreat coming next year, which
is a very sacred space for only20 women.

(48:20):
It's two and a half days toreally have a safe container
where we get to unravel all ofthis.
And we we start with breathwork, we we have a um a welcome
party, and then we have we startwith breath work on Saturday
morning, just to get peoplegrounded.
Um, and I participate in that aswell.
Um and yeah, and then we do alot of discussion that day.

(48:43):
And then on Sundays, I actuallydo coaching.
Whoever wants to, you know, hasa question or whatever, and then
the coaching comes.
And so that's when women reallyget to break free from these
constraints that they're holdingback and they get to see a new
world, right?
So that's a very in-depth twoand a half days.
Um, it's gonna be at some kindof villa somewhere.
Last time I did it in Sonoma ata villa.
This year, I think I'm doing itat Lake Norman.

(49:03):
It's gonna be Where's LakeNorman?
June, Charlotte, North Carolina.

SPEAKER_05 (49:07):
Oh, God, that's beautiful.
Yeah, that's beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 (49:09):
Um, and then they can join the free sanctum
community as well.
Okay.
Um, that's on there as well.
I just need an email to get themstarted because it's all on
Zoom.
And so, and there's there's somefreebies on there, there's a
free journal prompt on there.
They can see the I'm gonna beputting out the book, Power of
the Pause.
It's just a little pamphletthat, you know, I'm gonna be
giving away.
So that's coming.

(49:31):
Um, yeah.
So, and then of course they canalways DM me on Instagram,
right?
Lovely, yes.
If they want to call me direct,I'm happy to give you the phone
number.
They can call me direct.

SPEAKER_04 (49:42):
Great.

SPEAKER_01 (49:42):
I just really want to reach as many women as
possible so we can have thismovement, not in a bad feminine
way.
This is about respecting,honoring yourself and the people
in your lives and men, andgetting back to a world where
everybody is together in unity,moving forward together, yes,

(50:06):
with love and respect and allthat good stuff.
Because I think that through thewomen, like we were talking
about, taking on the masculine,we've kind of disrespected men a
little bit.

SPEAKER_05 (50:17):
That's a whole nother episode that we could
talk about.

SPEAKER_01 (50:20):
I know, and we could do that too next time, but like
there's that going on, and so Ireally want the men that are
listening to know that we dounderstand that and we want to
help women get back to thatfeminine power that they have.

SPEAKER_05 (50:31):
It's really restoring the balance of what we
all came here to be and do.
Yeah, it's the restoral, therenewal of balance of that
feminine, masculine polarity,dance, the union of how we work
together to build community andno more separation, like no more

(50:52):
separation.
Like that's uh such an oldconversation.
Right, yeah, vitality andvitality.
I love that when you said thatabout vitality because you're
you're 100% right.
You know, people say, Oh, I wantvitality.
Well, but it starts, it startsby looking inside.
You know, you really gotta lookat what's what's what's missing,
what's going on, what's reallyhappening in there?

(51:13):
What are you not payingattention to?
What are you ignoring becauseyou think you have to do all
these other things or else yourday will fall apart?
Yeah, guess what?
It's all gonna be theretomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 (51:23):
Major panic attacks because so stressed out in a
relationship, right?
And showing up my office, then Iwould just have to like, you
know, breathe through it withher.
And then, of course, then thenshe stressed and then anxiety
and depression and all thisstuff.
I mean, all of that because wehadn't worked through or she
wasn't ready to work throughthat, right?
Yeah, um, and now that's aburied emotions space, and she's

(51:45):
the one that's in an amazingrelationship and having a baby.
I love it.
You get to be a grandma again.

SPEAKER_05 (51:51):
I'm already again.
Oh, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
Yeah, so that's awesome.
Well, I just wanted to say thankyou so much for joining us
today.
I'm like I said, everybody, allthose that are listening, I'm
gonna put all of her links inthe show notes.
Um, the retreat sounds amazing,and so I look forward to hearing
about the dates on that becausethat sounds beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 (52:13):
And and there's a waiting list.
If people want to get on to it,they can go to the retreat tab
and just join the waiting list.
Okay, great.
And then they'll get all theinformation.

SPEAKER_05 (52:20):
All the information.
Yeah, I just want to say thankyou for joining us here.
It's been a pleasure having youon.
And yeah, and I look forward tomaybe doing it again.
We can have some other fun,juicy topics.
Yes, of course.

SPEAKER_01 (52:33):
Any anytime.

SPEAKER_05 (52:34):
Awesome, awesome.
All right, thank you for rootingin and rising with me today.
If something in this episodestirred something in you, take a
breath, take what you need, andlet the rest soften.
Be sure to follow the show soyou don't miss what's next.
And if you feel called, sharethis episode or leave a review.
It helps the space grow andreach others on the path.

(52:54):
Until next time, may you walkwith trust, speak with love, and
rise in your own time.
I'm so grateful you were herewith us, and thanks for being
here.
We'll see you on the nextepisode.

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