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August 13, 2025 26 mins

In this week’s episode of Roots, Rights & Reason, host Lee Smith welcomes Constitutional Lawyer and Newsweek Editor-At-Large Josh Hammer for a thought-provoking conversation on the origins, meaning, and modern misuse of the phrase “separation of church and state.” They explore the true historical meaning of the Establishment Clause as a federalism provision, the Supreme Court’s role in reshaping religious freedom, and the cultural consequences of removing the Bible’s influence from schools.

The discussion examines the First Amendment through the lens of America’s founding principles, revealing how a distorted interpretation of “separation of church and state” has sidelined faith in public life. Hammer makes the case that the Bible was not only central to the Founders’ vision but remains essential to the nation’s moral and civic health, and that preserving liberty requires restoring the biblical foundations that once guided our laws, culture, and public institutions.

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