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July 22, 2025 55 mins

Today, the Safari heads to Washington D.C. to bring you an episode from the Smithsonian's National Zoo and Conservation Biology Institute! We welcome Carly Hornberger back onto the pod to talk all things primate (and some things rat and turtle) at the National Zoo! How does the famous O-line work? Are gibbons the best primates? Are baby gorillas as cute and playful as they seem? We talk all this and so much more! 

EPISODE LINKS: 

nationalzoo.si.edu

@smithsonianzoo on socials 

ROSSIFARI LINKS: 

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@rossifari pod on TikTok 

patreon.com/rossifari to support the pod! 

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