Episode 20 - Conspiracy Night & Dave's Insights

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What happens when the official story sprints ahead but the evidence jogs behind? We dive into the Charlie Kirk shooting with a clear-eyed breakdown of the timeline, the alleged rifle, and the surveillance angles that raise more questions than they answer. From the sound profile that doesn’t match a high-powered round to the missing muzzle-flash footage and the too-neat text messages attributed to a 22-year-old, we map the inconsistencies and ask the only fair question: where’s the audit trail?

Then we widen the scope to the most enduring modern flashpoint: 9/11. Free fall collapse signatures, Building 7’s unexplained failure, and the Pentagon’s missing multi-angle footage resurface in a conversation that favors physics and process over partisanship. We’re not chasing shock value; we’re looking for standards. If authorities can release graphic clips of harm, they can release source footage, chain-of-custody logs, and clear technical explanations that survive basic scrutiny. That’s not conspiracy thinking — that’s accountability.

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_02 (00:20):
Welcome back to the Route and Loudie Podcast.
This is episode twenty.
And uh we got uh Dave with ustonight.
So it's Eric, Brad, Dave, we'regonna be talking conspiracy
theories.
So, and and Eric and I have kindof talked about what our next

(00:41):
season is gonna look like, andbecause I am like super under
informed about this kind ofstuff, uh we're probably gonna
do a whole series on just randomconspiracy theories.

SPEAKER_00 (00:54):
It could be goofy, it could be funny, and we'll
still keep it comedy, it's justkind of who we are.
Yeah, but yeah, we're we'retalking about two main ones
today, and kind of the funnything about this is um me and
Dave are very well informed onwhat's going on in Brad's Nat.
So it's gonna be absolutelyhilarious to hear his his
theories and and kind of what hethinks, um, you know, versus me

(01:17):
and Dave.
But um, but yeah, so you know,kind of some conspiracy
theories.
We'll still have some funnyones.
I mean, we got Christmas comingup, and we have to do Christmas
part two, dude, with the worstgifts, like the ball bag and the
I Wanna Be Inside.
And the card would say Oh mygod.
Every time Brad said, and thecard would say, I want to be
inside you.

(01:38):
It was like a coffin, right?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:41):
Yeah.
That was a good that was a goodshow.
But uh yeah, we'll have to uhwe'll have to re revert back to
that show.

SPEAKER_00 (01:49):
Yeah, but but yeah, so today with with conspiracy
type stuff, we're not we're notsaying that um we're trying to
solve it or we have all theanswers.
What we're trying to do is justkind of have an open discussion
about it because there's athere's a couple big ones going
on right now that a lot ofpeople are talking about.
I want to be a part of that.
And I also think that we shouldmention that none of us are
depressed.

(02:10):
Um I fully plan to wake up thenext couple days.

SPEAKER_01 (02:16):
So if that happens, we're not suicidal.
Yeah, no, yeah, not at all.

SPEAKER_00 (02:20):
And they're like, hey, this guy in a furry mask
took out Eric.
Like, probably wasn't, you know,it probably was bigger than
that.
So let's see where this leadsus, boys, you know?

SPEAKER_02 (02:31):
Yeah.
Oh shit.

SPEAKER_00 (02:33):
So a little sidebar.
Um, my mom is medical, my dad issales, and my brother's medical.
That's all I'm gonna say.
But the other day we weretalking about like this like
Charlie Kirk case and all thisstuff that's going on with it.
Sure.
And um I'm like, I don't thinkit was Tyler Robinson.
She's like, What do you mean?
I was like, I just don't think a22-year-old kid is gonna be this

(02:54):
thought out.
The text messages say that he'sbeen planning this for a week.
That makes no fucking sense.
Like, dude, how in the fuck didthis weird tall kid go unnoticed
for so long if so this is theguy they're claiming shot him?
And and my mom looks at me andshe's like, You are absolutely
sick if you think that there's aconspiracy here.

(03:18):
And it's like, no, I'm just notfucking blind to it.
That's all that's thedifference.
Uh you guys are fine with beingfed.
I want to look around before Iput the spoon in my mouth.
That's all I'm gonna say.
Okay?
This is a career in college,dude.
Open your eyes, I got asurprise, right?
Like, it's no.
And the other one that we talkedabout is 9-11.
She's like, I think you're crazyif you think there's a
conspiracy there.

(03:38):
And it's like there is.

SPEAKER_03 (03:39):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 (03:40):
Like, it's not, it's not whether or not I think it.
It's it's there's a lot ofpeople that think it.
So so let's open this up.
Yeah, what are the holes?
So let's start talking aboutCharlie Kirk first, okay?
Charlie Kirk, as you know,activist, speaker, head of
Turning Point USA, went oncampuses, would debate people,
right?
All sorts of things like that.

(04:01):
And that's what's kind of funny,too, is that one of the people
that he debated that was areally weird guy, like with a
megaphone, looks just like thispicture that you have in front
of you.
Looks just like this guy.

SPEAKER_01 (04:11):
Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 (04:12):
Yeah, and it's not Tyler Robinson.

SPEAKER_01 (04:14):
Well, more you can see.

SPEAKER_00 (04:15):
I don't think this looks like a 22-year-old kid if
you look at it.
So, so here's kind of thetimeline what happened.
So, Charlie Kirk, obviously,September 10, was shot.
Here's a little timeline.
829 Robinson.
Who was he?
Uh he was in Utah at uh at a uhcollege.

(04:36):
College, it was UVU.

SPEAKER_02 (04:41):
Yeah.
Um UV U Vila.
You have the computer.
I don't know what its name isfor.
That's fine.

SPEAKER_00 (04:50):
Utah Valley.

SPEAKER_02 (04:52):
That's fine.
It's UVU.
Yeah, Utah University.
We don't need specifics.
Or we do.
We don't need specifics, Eric.
Hey.
Earth to Eric.

SPEAKER_00 (05:03):
Uh Utah Valley University.
So at least we saw the firsttime.
So 829.
829 suspect shows up on thecampus.
That's that's about right.
But 1205, crowd awaits CharlieKirk, so there's footage of
that.
1209, Kirk enters, throwinghats, engaging with the crowd.

(05:23):
1223, Kirk is hit with a singleshot.
Investigators say from nearbyrooftop, the subject moves to
the other side of the building,jumps off the building, flees
campus into a nearbyneighborhood, according to
Mason, with the UDPS.
Video shows Kirk being carriedby six men to an SUV, which
transports him to TimpanagosRegional Hospital.

(05:46):
Uh 1236, which is kind of weirdto me, right?
And and I'll explain why, but1236 reactions pour in.
Senator Mike Lee, Donald Trump,Barack Obama, pick people
tweeting about it, whatever.
1252 UVU sends out an alert thatpolice are investigating and
that a suspect's in custody, theperson of interested is released

(06:08):
after questioning.
That's that old guy's picturethat I showed you.
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (06:12):
So they they originally had this guy.

SPEAKER_00 (06:14):
They thought it was him because he admitted it.
1259, campus lockdownauthorities arrive on scene.
So you're telling me it took 55minutes for the authorities?
How did Donald Trump send atweet out at 1236?
Yeah, but the authorities andour federal government wasn't
there till one.
So another point.

SPEAKER_01 (06:35):
Another point is Benjamin Netanyahu also said we
had nothing to do with it.
Why would you say that?
Yeah.
That he did that like threetimes.
He's done that three times.
That's just putting a target onyour public.

SPEAKER_00 (06:50):
Is that the owner of Yahoo?

SPEAKER_01 (06:52):
Well, no.
Benjamin Netanyahu.
Oh, what is his major politicianin Israel?
He's like, he's killed lots ofpeople.

SPEAKER_00 (07:01):
Did he own Yahoo?
I didn't better know.
No, no.
No, he didn't.
That'd be pretty slick, dude.

SPEAKER_01 (07:05):
I don't know what bet in Google, dude, but No, um,
so I want to uh bring awarenessto another thing.
Do you know the last words?
Do you know the last words ofwhat Charlie Kirk said before he
was shot?
No.

SPEAKER_00 (07:19):
Uh including gang violence.

SPEAKER_01 (07:22):
Including gang violence.
And he was shot in the throat.

SPEAKER_00 (07:26):
So you they were making a point about the the qu
the guy asked a question aboutviolence in the country.
Yeah and Charlie reiterated byasking, including or not
including gang violence.
So like he was trying to getmore clarity on it.
Like, are you talking likebecause they are kind of
separated?
Yeah.
Like general crime in his mindis like I come home, my wife's

(07:47):
plowing somebody wearing an OhioState shirt.
I go get my my shotgun, I takecare of it.
You know?
That's like right.
And he's claiming that gunviolence is more of a purpose
where it's like corporate twocorporations, if you will, going
against each other.

SPEAKER_01 (08:02):
Right.
But yeah, that's fucking crazy.
There's just so much thathappened in that time, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (08:08):
So let me continue real quick with the timeline.
So the Orium, uh so campuslocked down 1259, authorities
arrive on scene, which to meeither they got that wrong or
something, but this is from ABCNews, so it's not like it's just
something random.
Uh 222, the Orium policedepartment says the shooting
suspect is not in custody and isstill out at large.
So they release that old guy.

(08:31):
Um and then 240, Trump announcesthat uh Kirk has died from his
injuries.
Yep.
Uh 4 o'clock, same day, GovernorSpencer Cox says during a press
conference that there's a secondperson of interest in custody
who's being questioned, who alsogot let go, which is really
weird.
No.
Uh 421 Cash Patel writes uh in apost that subject for the

(08:55):
horrific shooting today thattook the life of Charlie Kirk is
in custody.
FBI's special agent in charge.
Robert Bowles announced during apress conference that
authorities have recovered whatbelieves to be the weapon used
in the shooting high-poweredaction rifle.
The weapon was found in a woodedarea where the shooter had fled,
and the FBI will analyze theweapon.
He adds the investigators alsocollected a footwear impression,

(09:17):
a palm print, and a forearmimprint.
Sources later told the ABC thatthe weapon discovered is an
older model imported Mauser 30.6caliber bolt action rifle
wrapped in a towel.
So the next day, authoritiesrelease images of the suspected
shooter kind of asking for thepublic's help.
Uh 1004 or 1044.

(09:39):
FBI writes that it's offering ahundred thousand dollar reward.
Um and then the following day,so the 12th, Trump announces um
that the person is in custody.
Umject to change, but the factsare the facts.
We have the person that we thinkis responsible.
Uh, this is Tyler Robinson.

(10:00):
Uh, kind of what they think isgoing on.
Um the report says thatRobinson's father recognized his
son in the photographs.
He told Robinson to turn himselfin.
Robinson initially said no, butlater changed his mind.
Father called the youth pastor,youth pastor called the FBI.

SPEAKER_01 (10:17):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (10:18):
So um there's a there's a there's just so much
shit with this.
Like multiple people um close tothe case were saying that the
bullet did not exit his neck andwas located just beneath the
skin.

SPEAKER_01 (10:31):
Yeah, they called him the man of steel.

SPEAKER_00 (10:33):
Like a miracle, like that he saved lives because of
that.
And and I I mean, if that'strue, that I I can understand
where they're coming from.
Right.
So this next image is kind ofwhere the shot was from.
And I'm just being real.
Like, if you're just a regular,everyday, you know, you shoot a
couple times a year, I that's atough shot.

SPEAKER_02 (10:50):
Yeah.
How many yards did they say?

SPEAKER_00 (10:52):
146.

SPEAKER_02 (10:53):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (10:53):
140 to 146.
I mean, it's which I know is nota tough shot, but you're
bringing a fucking rocketlauncher to a mission where you
need a a 22.
You know what I mean?
Like a 30 at six.
Why do you need that?

SPEAKER_01 (11:08):
Uh it would it would definitely blow his head off.

SPEAKER_00 (11:10):
So, this is the other part that really like gets
me is is um this next littletidbit is the text messages.
So, like, why did I do it?
Um, I had enough of his hatred,can't be negotiated.
These look so edited.
So, this is between TylerRobinson and his boyfriend.
Like, I like it doesn't soundlike a 22-year-old, right?

(11:31):
Listen to this.
I'm wishing I had circled backand grabbed it as soon as I got
to my vehicle.
I'm worried what my old manwould do if I didn't bring back
grandpa's rifle.
I don't know if it had a serialnumber, but it wouldn't trace to
me.
No 22-year-old's gonna talk likethat, or even use the term old
man.

SPEAKER_01 (11:49):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (11:50):
They're gonna say my dad.

SPEAKER_01 (11:51):
Sounds super AI.

SPEAKER_00 (11:52):
Or or they're gonna be like like one of those
refusal kind of kids that likecalls him Scott, you know,
Scott's gonna be pissed that Ilost grandpa's rifle.
Yeah, I had to leave it in abush where I changed outfits.
I didn't have the ability ortime to bring it with.
I might have to abandon it andhope they don't find prints.
How the fuck?
Well, I explain losing it to myold man.
Again, he says that only thing Ileft was the rifle wrapped in a

(12:16):
towel.
Remember how I was engravingbullets?
The fucking messages are mostlya big meme.
If I see notices bulljuw on FoxNews, I might have a stroke.
Alright, I'm gonna have to leaveit.
That really fucking sucks.
Judging from today, I'd saygrandpa's gun is doing just
fine.
I don't know.
I think that was a 2K scope.
It doesn't even make sense thepath that he talked about in

(12:37):
that.
You just killed a guy, andthat's all you're talking about,
right?
Yeah, you're not talking aboutthe adrenaline.
So this is uh another mapshowing the the shooter uh
location.
Um, you know, from the rooflooking down.
Um, it's the Lowe's Center.
Yeah.
Um Candace Owens, another crazything, just released a bunch of

(12:58):
text messages that Charlie Kirkwas a part of where it talks
about um Jewish donors, kind ofwhat kind of uh the guy that
doesn't own Yahoo.
Um yeah.
So just lost another huge Jewishdonor, Charlie Kirk says in a in
a text message with seven peoplefrom Turning Point.
Two million a year because wewon't cancel Tucker.
Uh Tucker Carlson.

SPEAKER_01 (13:19):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (13:20):
Um I'm thinking of inviting Candace.

SPEAKER_01 (13:22):
Yeah, they were supposed to have a reunion uh
podcast.

SPEAKER_00 (13:26):
Uh and then Charlie Kirk says, Jewish donors play
into all the stereotypes.
I can't and will not be bulliedlike this, leaving me no choice
but to leave the pro-Israelcause.

SPEAKER_01 (13:35):
Yeah, that was a big, big thing.

SPEAKER_00 (13:37):
And that's this is the day before.
So this is September 9.
So that this all went down.
That this conversation wentdown.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (13:44):
He was basically turning his back on Israel.

SPEAKER_00 (13:46):
And it shows that who he's talking to is advising
him to not turn on Israel.
Like it shows me that there'ssome there's a mole.
Well, that's why you would killhim, right?
Please don't invite Candace.
That might feel good short term,but it's not looking good long
term, in my opinion.
Like all groups, you're going toget a wide variety of opinions.
That bestowed on us makes lifefrustrating at times.
So he is totally buying into thenarrative.

(14:09):
This next photo is of the guythat claimed he did it.
Next photo is showing um, youknow, the different uh bones in
your neck.
It's showing that the bulletthey claimed was lodging C7
right there.
Wow.
Which doesn't make sense.
Uh, I mean, that is kind ofwhere he was shot, though.
I mean, it was it was lowerneck, but it was kind of upper.
I almost would say it was moreC4, C5.

(14:31):
Than I would say C7.

unknown (14:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (14:34):
Well, I've heard I've actually heard a lot of
theories.
I mean, let's talk about thepeople actually in the crowd,
okay?
Yeah.
You have three or four peopledoing hand gestures.
You had the guy right next tohim do something with his hat.
Um, I seen this one video of aguy, he was wearing Google
glasses, and he actually turnedthem on right before.
And then as soon as as soon ashe was shot, he jumped over the

(14:57):
table and grabbed like aprojector unit on the top of the
tent.
The camera that's like tell metell me why would you do that?
And then he just left.

SPEAKER_00 (15:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (15:06):
Like, what the hell's up with that?
You know?
Yeah.
There's so many holes in thestory.
It's oh yeah.
It's so crazy.
So the other I don't know if Istill I mean, I've been digging
ever since it happened.
So it's wild.

SPEAKER_02 (15:22):
I mean, I've I've hunted with a 30 out six before.
There's no way that his neck isgonna stop that bullet.
No way.
If he just got hit in the neck.

SPEAKER_01 (15:32):
I if I agree.
No, that would uh blow your headoff basically.

SPEAKER_00 (15:37):
I actually I don't know how it didn't get in here,
but I had a I had a uh a couplescreen grabs that I took of a
guy, and what he did is heactually shot four pounds of
burger that was like taped uplike really good.
You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 (15:53):
Like was it cooked?

SPEAKER_00 (15:54):
It was not cooked, Dave.
Thank you for clarifying.
But like just just and then hadhis buddy shoot the the meat.
So he had four pounds and then apackage in front of it, you
know, kind of a target.

SPEAKER_01 (16:06):
That's a lot of meat.

SPEAKER_00 (16:07):
This thing, there's nothing left of this dude.
Like, and and he he did that,and he also had like a I want to
say it was a cow's neck that hedid that that he was explaining
is actually thicker, like withbone in it still, so he did
both.
And there's it's completelysevered the neck.
And it just it was insane, thethe loudness of it.

(16:29):
So the shot that we hear is nota 30 out six in the video.
Yeah, when you hear that shotring, right?
That would have been a very loudvery loud, like like just like
annoying loud.

SPEAKER_02 (16:42):
Yeah.
Especially in a I mean, justlooking at the picture and
enclosed space like that, whereyou've got the it's gonna be
loud as shit.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (16:51):
So I don't know exactly what happened, but like
my question is like thequestions that I have is more
more this kind of stuff.
So I want to know I want to knowwhere the footage is.
Uh so if you look at this, ifyou look at this map, right, and
you look at and you look at thelocation on the lousy center of

(17:12):
the top, right?
So we have that video of himfleeing the scene and actually
jumping off the roof.

SPEAKER_01 (17:17):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (17:18):
That same camera would have captured the shot.

SPEAKER_01 (17:21):
They said he was actually practicing that run
before before that, like a weekbefore he was he was actually
seen on that roof practicing hisrunaway, I guess.
Huh.

SPEAKER_00 (17:33):
Bunch of bunch of neighbors close to Tyler
Robinson.
So Tyler Robinson lived with aguy named Twiggs.
That's his Twigs.
That's his name that's hisnickname.
I don't know his actual name.
No, no, that's brand new.
That's that's real.
That's his boyfriend.
That's a text message, that'swho he's talking to.
Wow.
When I read those.

SPEAKER_01 (17:49):
So they're both furries, they're both like Well,
they're actually they'reDiscord.
He was part of a Discord withthat whole thing.
Oh man, that's another wholerabbit hole there.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (18:00):
So what gets me though is like, so this guy
they're claiming, because thevideo shows him going up to the
roof, and this is the photo ofthat right here.
Where's the gun?

SPEAKER_02 (18:14):
Yeah.
There isn't one.

SPEAKER_00 (18:16):
Where would you put a 30 out six?
So the only way they couldexplain that is that he
disassembled it, climbed up tothe roof, reassembled it with a
screwdriver.

SPEAKER_02 (18:25):
Did they say what kind?
Because usually they're all overif it's an AR or if it's
whatever.
They did they ever say what kindit was?
Uh Mauser.
Yes.
Mauser?
Yeah.
So that that one isn't, you'renot gonna break down that barrel
to anything shorter than 18 to24 inches.

(18:45):
So where is that in the picture?
It's in his pants?
Right.
I don't think so.
Not going up and down thestairs.
Never see anybody go up and downthe stairs with something in
their pants that they can't bendtheir leg?
That's a good idea.
Guess what?

SPEAKER_00 (18:57):
Mauser 30.6 caliber caliber bolt action.
Uh Mauser 30.6 caliber boltaction.

SPEAKER_02 (19:06):
Yeah, so a bolt action.
You're not gonna break thebarrel down.
No, you can't.
So you've got 18 to 24 incheslong barrel that's nowhere in
that picture.

SPEAKER_01 (19:19):
What are your guys' thoughts on what actu what uh
actually happened, you know, asfar as like, you know, big
picture.
You know, is Israel involved?
Is the CIA involved?
Is the FBI involved?
Man, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (19:32):
I really don't.
I mean, there's so many thingsout there.
There's so you don't know whatto believe anymore.
I don't watch the news.
I don't I mean, uh it was DenzelWashington that I think that put
it this way.
You watch the news, you'remisinformed.
You don't watch the news, you'reunder informed.
You know, but you don't it's youdon't know what to believe.

(19:52):
You really don't.
I I have no idea what tobelieve, what to even get
started down this whole rabbithole?
Right.
That's why I don't do it.

SPEAKER_00 (20:00):
I just I don't the the questions that I'll ask are
this though.
How did he climb up the roof,disassemble the gum, fall on the
roof, reassemble the gun, andthen why would you reassemble
the gun after you're down justto leave it fully assembled?
There's also a cartridge,there's also a cartridge left in
the bullet, not the bulletitself, but the just the the

(20:21):
casing.

SPEAKER_01 (20:21):
Yep.
Wow.
Why?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (20:24):
If you're good enough to make that shot though.
If you're good enough to makethat shot, you're good enough to
know to kick that round out.

SPEAKER_01 (20:30):
And grab the round off and grab the case.

SPEAKER_02 (20:32):
At that point, you don't need to.
It can stay in there.
But you're not gonna disassemblethe weapon and then reassemble
it.
No, you're not.

SPEAKER_01 (20:40):
You would throw the bag away with the gun somewhere
in the woods.

SPEAKER_02 (20:43):
Yeah, I mean you're not gonna get it.

SPEAKER_00 (20:44):
Yeah, you would you would keep that in the bag
between the gun.
And then you would chuck it intothe run.
You don't want them to findthat.

SPEAKER_01 (20:49):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (20:49):
That's the only thing right now that ties you to
that.
So them finding that so easilywas kind of crazy to me.
Um, the other the other thingthat I want to know is where's
Charlie's parents and all this?
Why have we not heard astatement from his dad?

SPEAKER_01 (21:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (21:03):
They took my son.
That's it.
Why have we not heard good pointanything from his mom?

SPEAKER_01 (21:08):
Yeah.
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (21:10):
His family.
He has siblings.

SPEAKER_01 (21:11):
Sure.

SPEAKER_00 (21:12):
Where are they?
That's what makes me to believethat the there's something
really weird here.
I don't know if it's, you know,like snake eyes, like that's a
big theory.
I don't know if it's a cover-up.
My mind always tells me tofollow the money.
Who benefits the most from himnot being here?

SPEAKER_03 (21:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (21:29):
It's definitely not the Dems.
I know that initially I thoughtDemocrat did this in there
crazy.
But if you if you look in recentpast, there's way more people
now being labeled or switchingto Republican or Conservative
than ever before, and it hasnothing to do with this.

SPEAKER_02 (21:47):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (21:48):
So that's obviously not the narrative that anyone's
pushing.

SPEAKER_01 (21:52):
At another point, though, why did uh Turning Point
USA rent the stadium before thiseven happened for that exact day
that they had the memorial?

SPEAKER_00 (22:02):
I think that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_01 (22:04):
Without doing any uh promotions for whatever they
were trying to push, how wouldyou rent that size of stadium
for for nothing without anypromotion?
So there's that too.
Yeah.
You know that that's that's umthat's crazy right there.

SPEAKER_00 (22:19):
Yeah.
Where's the cell phone data?

SPEAKER_01 (22:21):
Where's your cell phone data?

SPEAKER_00 (22:23):
It's right here, motherfucker.
You just gotta access it.
Sorry guys, I had to get itright now.
We've all been there.
But like the other, like, um sowe have the video of him
fleeing.
We're also shown the video ofCharlie taking the shot, which
was horrible to watch.
Horrific, which I wouldn't have.

unknown (22:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (22:45):
But if you're willing to share that, why
aren't you willing to share themuzzle flash on the roof?
That makes no sense to me.
Yep.
Because the same camera thatcaptures him running, it it
shows exactly where he was.

SPEAKER_01 (22:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (22:57):
So show me him's shoot, stand, run, and I'll
believe it more.
I will, right?

SPEAKER_01 (23:05):
I mean, they probably have the best
surveillance ever on thesecampuses.
Like what are we only gettingfuzzy videos?
Yeah, like it's it's 2025.

SPEAKER_00 (23:13):
Why is the text chain altered?

SPEAKER_02 (23:17):
Not only is there security there and everything,
from him as well.
I mean, from all of his guys, Imean, they've got to be his
security detail was actuallyre-redid before that.

SPEAKER_01 (23:29):
Yeah.
That's that's where I thinkthat's exactly that's why I
think they had something to dowith it.
This guy touched his chest,squeezes something here, and he
gets shot.
All it happens the same mmoment.

SPEAKER_00 (23:42):
Three people all have signs.
So yeah.
One guy behind him touches hishat like this, yeah.
The fire rings out like a minuteafter.
Yeah, you look at the guy nextto him, he's doing like an
actual full-blown baseballfucking thing.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (23:54):
Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 (23:55):
And then right after that, he gets shot, and then you
look over again, there's anotherguy that like he kind of does
one of these and touchessomething.
All three are like in sync.
It's so weird.
Like it's like boom, boom, boom,fire.
Like it's in in every no one'slooking at them in any way,
shape, or form.
The other thing that makes nosense to me is if I got shot

(24:18):
right now, wouldn't the mainthing you're doing, especially
in the head, be stabilizing thehead?
There's nobody stabilizing hishead.
If he watched this, it's justfucking.

SPEAKER_01 (24:25):
Where's the blood?
That's what I want to know.
Where's the blood over everybodyaround him?
Yeah.
That's what I want to know.
What where's the trail at?
Why didn't these guys havesoaked shirts?

SPEAKER_02 (24:35):
So the only thing that I do know about this whole
thing is like the next day theyhad everything covered up, like
paved over and right.
Yeah.
Like all the time.
Like, why the hell would you dothat?

SPEAKER_00 (24:49):
Let me explain something to you guys, too.
Like, there was you doconstruction, so I can't I can't
I did uh work for a constructionfirm for I don't know, two years
or so, and very familiar withit.
When you're doing constructionon that scale, it takes a lot of
time.
And what I mean by that is okay,you have your paving people, you

(25:10):
have your sod people, you haveyour drywall people.
No, they didn't do drywall, butyou have your stone people, you
have all these differentlandscapers, all these different
constructions, all thesedifferent trades, right?

SPEAKER_03 (25:20):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (25:22):
That takes a lot of time to assemble that.
And also the materials required,all of that concrete, all of
that um stone that they put in,whatever, like to make more of a
memorial.
Like, that's not an easyovernight fucking thing.

SPEAKER_02 (25:37):
No, not at all.

SPEAKER_00 (25:38):
And how did you have that, like, where they were on
site September 11th?
The next day.

SPEAKER_02 (25:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (25:46):
It makes no sense to me.
Like, you'd think that the copswould want to lock that whole
place down, absolutely, yellowtape that whole bitch and give
everyone a week to look at it.
Or a month.
You'd think that they would takethat so seriously, and it would
just be that's my biggest thing.
So um there's another thingthat's kind of crazy too.

(26:08):
If you watch a video, um, andwhen you watch them pave
outside, there's a trapdoor.

SPEAKER_01 (26:13):
Right underneath where he was.
It was right underneath or what?

SPEAKER_00 (26:20):
But there is a trapdoor.
You can see a chair actuallyfall down it after the shut.
Like it, and and also too, likethe guys behind him that are his
security detail, yeah.
I didn't see panic on any oftheir faces.

SPEAKER_01 (26:32):
No, like they were totally ready for that.

SPEAKER_00 (26:35):
Or knew it was coming.

SPEAKER_01 (26:37):
Yeah, yeah.
You want to know something evenweird?
The guy to the right thatactually touches his chest, he
was actually part of Trump'ssecurity detail.
When he got shot.
When he got shot.
And I think that that man has alot to do with both of them.

SPEAKER_02 (26:50):
Yes.
No kidding.

SPEAKER_01 (26:51):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (26:52):
But my main question is well, how far technology's
come, right?
I mean, back in our day, dude,we could back in my day.
We could we could like knock ona door and then run, you know,
door door ding dong bitch, youknow.
Like that's not a fucking thinganymore.
We all know that.

SPEAKER_01 (27:07):
We gotta bring that back, Eric.
Why do yeah, do we do it?
We'll be the kings of Calamazoo.

SPEAKER_00 (27:10):
Do it to businesses, just pound pound pound I'll be a
rest, dude.

SPEAKER_01 (27:15):
Ice just say ice.

SPEAKER_00 (27:17):
Oh my gosh.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I'm the fucking healthinspector.
You know, just show it torandom, random fucking
restaurants.
Health inspector Eric here.
How are you?
Oh, my white glove shows Dirkhere.

SPEAKER_01 (27:32):
Right.
Shut this place down.

SPEAKER_00 (27:35):
But my I don't know.
I guess my main thing is there'sthere's a lot of holes in this.
I don't know exactly whathappened.
I I think you followed themoney.
Who benefits the most?
Erica Kirk benefits the most.
I'm not calling her out, but I'mjust saying she does.
And whoever else got power fromthis and rose in rank because
he's gone had something to dowith this.
I I think my my theories on thisare one of two things.

(27:58):
I think either Israel's involvedand they're trying to censor him
and he didn't want to be a partof it, and said fuck you to the
wrong person, and he gotoffended.

SPEAKER_01 (28:06):
Yeah, he was changing his views, basically.

SPEAKER_00 (28:08):
Yeah, and he's like, I own Yahoo!

SPEAKER_01 (28:10):
And they didn't want that.

SPEAKER_00 (28:13):
Or two, I think that Tyler Tyler Robinson is just
completely a patsy, and I thinkthat the shot actually came from
somewhere else.
I don't think he fired the gun.
I think that the gun was placedthere.

SPEAKER_02 (28:25):
I I'm uh so right now, my feeling, not knowing
anything about this wholesituation, okay.
I'm learning more in the last 20minutes than I have because I
don't watch it.
I don't even think he was shot.
Really?

SPEAKER_00 (28:42):
I mean, there's dude.
They're claiming that so likethe the wounds right here,
right?
They're claiming that it wasshot like this.

SPEAKER_02 (28:48):
Yeah.
That makes no sense.
He definitely wasn't shot with a30 out six at all.
There's no way.
No.
And there's no blood.

SPEAKER_01 (28:57):
What about behind him?
I also heard that theory aswell.
That he was shot from behind.

SPEAKER_02 (29:01):
Right.
So where's the blood on thepeople in the front?
Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 (29:04):
Where's where's the most compelling one I saw was
that he was actually shot overhere.
There's a potted plant.
And if you look in the video,you can see somebody in a ghilly
suit.
That was the only one that I sawthat I was like, damn.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm just because it mademore sense.
Did so why is it?
Because the bullet, the bulletthen they can show it hit, and
there's a little blood, and thenit exits.

(29:24):
Right?
Right.
That makes more sense to me thanwhat they're telling us.

SPEAKER_02 (29:29):
Well, okay, well, well then what's the trapdoor
for?
I think he's still alive.
Really?

SPEAKER_00 (29:35):
I don't know what the trapdoor is for, but I mean
I think he's still alive.
Truth be told.

SPEAKER_01 (29:40):
I've heard a lot of trap.
Truth be told, I mean, whoknows?
Who knows?
Who knows if you're gonna do it?
There was a projector in theback.
Yeah, a hologram.
Holograms.
They've got uh guy went over thetable and grabbed it right off
in there.
But tell me why um his wife uhdidn't do an autopsy.
Like why did she why did shesign off on I'm doing it.

SPEAKER_00 (30:01):
And then she's like she's like saying um that video
where she's like touching hishands.
Yeah.
It looked like rubber.
It'll look real at all.
And I get that there's it'sgonna look different because
he's got embalming or whatever.
He's in Valhalla.
But like, dude, it's it's it'sit doesn't look like it doesn't
look like a hand.

SPEAKER_02 (30:16):
He's wherever Hitler went.

SPEAKER_01 (30:18):
In the same place.

SPEAKER_02 (30:20):
Hell?
No, I don't think Hitler diedwhen they said that he did
either.
No, he's another.

SPEAKER_01 (30:26):
He went to Austria.
And he lived out the rest of hislife.
Yep.
I know that for a fact.

SPEAKER_00 (30:30):
He went by Ben Schittler.

SPEAKER_01 (30:31):
He got caught by the male lady, dude.
He got caught by the male lady.
Oh, really?
Yep.
She recognized him and she didbackground or whatever, and he
was living in a house inAustria.
That's a that's a whole notherrabbit hole.
Yeah.
Yeah, they hid that man.

SPEAKER_02 (30:45):
Yeah.
But I don't know, there's awhole bunch of uh there's a
whole bunch of if you He was ameth addict.
There's actually a book outthere.
Hitler was it's uh Nazis inAmerica or something like that.
I I have that book.
I haven't read it yet, but orProject Paperclip.

SPEAKER_01 (30:58):
Yeah, where we actually where we actually
inherited pretty much all theirscientists and all their yeah
and we are actually the newNazis.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Basically.

SPEAKER_00 (31:10):
I mean Yeah, I I don't know.
This is such a weird this issuch a weird thing.
I think he's still alive.
It just bothers me.
It just bothers me because Ifeel like America is mature
enough.
If you're willing to show us ashot through a dude's neck, tell
me the damn truth.
Then you're you're able to tellus the fucking truth.
And that's what I want to likethat's what that's that's what's

(31:31):
going on right now.
That's why there's so muchdistrust in our government, is
because you're feeding us a liethat everybody knows is a lie.
The only people that aren'tgonna know it's a lie are people
like my mom, you know, that arejust watch the news and like,
okay, yep, fact.
You know, like it, but it's butthere's also people out there
like us, right?
Brad just heard most of thedetails of this and he's like,
this makes no fucking sense.
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (31:52):
And he already said he didn't even get shot.

SPEAKER_00 (31:54):
I don't even know that's Matt, that's great.
My top three would be thisIsrael, and there's a shooter in
a ghillie suit.
Tyler Evanson's the fall guy.
Two, someone on his team shothim and it came from a different
place, and we weren't able topick it up.
Three, he fell through atrapdoor and is still alive.

SPEAKER_01 (32:13):
And it was a rubber um thing.
Rubber rubber man in the street.

SPEAKER_00 (32:19):
Think about Hollywood, dude.
I mean, like when you get shotin the church.

SPEAKER_01 (32:21):
They're not putting pressure on his neck.
I mean, when someone gets shotin the neck, you're putting
pressure, you're getting a turnof head.

SPEAKER_00 (32:27):
This kind of like spurted and then it was done.

SPEAKER_01 (32:29):
They said it was chunks, no blood.

SPEAKER_00 (32:31):
Yeah, that's and then they called him the man of
steel.

SPEAKER_01 (32:34):
Yeah.
It's fucking nuts, dude.

SPEAKER_02 (32:37):
I mean, I and the the plethora uh plethora of
American people out there thathave no idea what actually
happens when you get shot.
I mean, I'm a hunter, right?
So I know what happens to ananimal when it gets shot, how
much blood there is.
If you shoot something like thatat an animal in the neck, it's

(32:58):
everywhere.
Yeah.
It is everywhere.
Your largest vein is right inyour neck.
It goes right through there.
If if you hit anything, I don'tcare if it's a 22, it's gonna be
spurting.
There's gonna be bloodeverywhere.

SPEAKER_00 (33:14):
They just think we're so stupid, right?

SPEAKER_02 (33:16):
They treat us like kids, man.

SPEAKER_00 (33:17):
Because when you hunt, right?
How hard is it to find anentrance wound versus an exit
wound?
Exit wound is so much easier tofind.
Oh, yeah.
With an arrow, with a bullet,with anything.
It's just true.
It's where the damage happens.
It rips through cartilage andleaves more of a hole because
it's got more momentum and it'staking more weight.

SPEAKER_01 (33:34):
It's taking stuff with it, right?
But you've seen the shirtthough.
The shirt pops up and then itlike moves up to his neck.

SPEAKER_00 (33:40):
That was so weird too.
Yeah, that you see his shirt popup like that.

SPEAKER_01 (33:43):
It's like two spots.
Oh, right.

SPEAKER_00 (33:45):
It like pops up like this and then he falls.
You know what I mean?
And then he's like this.

SPEAKER_01 (33:48):
That's why my theory is it came from behind.
Yeah.
Yep.
That's my theory.

SPEAKER_02 (33:52):
I'm sticking with my theory that he's still alive
somewhere.
That's why you're not hearingfrom his dad's, his mom, his
sisters, and brothers.
Yeah, and then where's CharlieKirk's family?

SPEAKER_00 (34:03):
His family was not at the memorial.

SPEAKER_01 (34:05):
How the hell does that even happen?

SPEAKER_00 (34:06):
It was all it was all Erica Kirk.

SPEAKER_01 (34:08):
Yeah.
She oh my god.
Yeah, I think she's got ties toTrump as well with uh with
pageants, with beauty pageantsand stuff.
Yeah, she does.

SPEAKER_00 (34:16):
She won the first beauty pageant she ever entered
and didn't ever even do it untilshe was 17.
Yeah, maybe maybe she started anorganization in Romania.

SPEAKER_01 (34:24):
Maybe she knew Diddy.
Diddy?

SPEAKER_00 (34:27):
Did she?
Did Diddy she?
You know?
She got diddled.
Dude.
Yeah, she likes baby oil, I'veasked her.
Um I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (34:35):
I think it was crocodile tears.
I think she was after the money.

SPEAKER_00 (34:39):
That man telling around tie for the city.

SPEAKER_01 (34:41):
90 mil 90 mil?
Yeah.
I mean, everyone's got theirnumbers.

SPEAKER_00 (34:45):
So she goes to Romania working with orphans,
and her organization getsaccused of child trafficking.
She gets kicked out of Romania.

SPEAKER_02 (34:57):
Who accused her?

SPEAKER_00 (34:58):
The government over there.

SPEAKER_01 (35:00):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (35:01):
I think the whistleblower came forward.

SPEAKER_01 (35:03):
Can you find that on Yahoo or no?

SPEAKER_00 (35:06):
Yes.
Yes, you can.
So I don't know.
I think I think if I had to if Ihad to bet right now, I would
bet the farm that either EricaKirk's behind it, Israel's
behind it, or he's behind it andIsrael.
He's behind it, he's alive, butI don't know that he that he
would have gotten the presidentin that's that's that's like

(35:29):
just like you were like hisparents would be tweeting stuff
out.
I don't know if it was a bigelaborate cover-up if Trump
would be a part of that, if thatmakes sense.

SPEAKER_02 (35:39):
I think if for the right reason, he would be.
If this is all a show to bringpeople out of the shadows,
absolutely he would be.

SPEAKER_01 (35:49):
I heard that he actually was prep being prepped
to be a future president.
Oh really?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (35:56):
Sometimes the government tells us when they
fuck up too, like when like withus, like they're they they
mentioned.
When they find when we find outtoo much that two people have
been detained and released.
How do you fuck that up?
In today's time, how do you fuckthat up?

SPEAKER_02 (36:09):
Right.
If you're looking for a22-year-old kid Well, I mean, if
people are coming forward andsaying they're doing it, then
they have to question them.
They have to.
Right.
Like if somebody comes to me, Iknow absolutely nothing.
Somebody comes to me and says,Yeah, I shot him or I did it.
Guess what?
I'm gonna, I mean, I'm gonnaquestion him.
I'm gonna figure out if he'sfull of shit or not.
Right.
And get the information out ofhim.

(36:30):
You have to.

SPEAKER_00 (36:31):
So I'm I'm hoping that they have a little
transparency with us and tell usthe truth a little bit.
I I don't I don't see ithappening.
I think someone's gonna poke ahole in it, or I think somebody
already has the truth somewhere.
I think there's enough holes init already that do you think do
why would you not as anorganization, the FBI, why would
you not respond to that?

(36:52):
Because this has been probablythe biggest conspiracy there
ever is so far that I've everseen.
This and 9-11.

SPEAKER_02 (36:58):
That we lived through.
Yeah.
I think the the largestconspiracy theory right now
that's ever been is the JFKassassination.
That's a wow.
Yeah.
That one, the amount of I mean,it's just like this.
There's holes in everything inthat story, in that storyline.
You've got a lot of video of youknow, people that were taking

(37:21):
videos back then that's missing.
Um people that had their videostaken.

SPEAKER_00 (37:27):
I wonder why presidents don't ever go on
parades anymore in the backseatof convertibles.
Right.
You know, I just wonder why.

SPEAKER_02 (37:34):
Right.
But I think that's the largestone.

SPEAKER_00 (37:37):
And I guess my other question is do we open up a new
a new topic or do we keeptalking about this one?

SPEAKER_02 (37:43):
Because I think we've kind of beat this one
senseless.

SPEAKER_00 (37:47):
So yeah, let's nine plus eleven does equal twenty.
Um, let's get into this, boys.

SPEAKER_01 (37:53):
Fun fact fun fact.

SPEAKER_00 (37:55):
Fun fact for you about nine-eleven.

SPEAKER_01 (37:56):
No, it's actually my birthday.
Really?
Yeah.
I was born uh nine 1987, 9-11.

SPEAKER_00 (38:03):
So the official report says a federal technical
building and fire safetyinvestigation of the collapse of
the twin towers was conducted bythe United States Department of
Commerce National Institution ofStandards and Technology.
And the investigation was toserve as basis for improvements
in the way buildings aredesigned, blah, blah, blah.
The report was completed April6th, concluding that the

(38:24):
fireproofing on the twin towerssteel infrastructure was blown
off by the initial impact ofplanes, and that if this had not
occurred, the towers wouldlikely have remained standing.
Why the fuck would fireproofinghave anything to do with it?

SPEAKER_02 (38:40):
So fireproofing, I know a little bit about it, but
fireproofing keeps the steel,the structure of the steel from
wavering.
I mean, it keeps the thestructure itself s safe.

SPEAKER_01 (38:55):
Right.
From collapsing on itself.

SPEAKER_02 (38:57):
Yeah.
I mean because that's honestly,like uh like homes, the homes
that are built wood structure,they like in a fire, in the
event of a fire, they're gonnalast and stand a lot longer than
something that's built metal.
And it's not fireproofed oranything like that, because as
soon as that metal gets hot, itstarts to bow, it starts to

(39:20):
move, and then everything has tobe.

SPEAKER_00 (39:21):
So let me ask you this if the metal got hot on the
top of my cup right here, whywould it spread down and would
it it wouldn't?
It would be pretty isolated.
Maybe it may be a floor or twofrom there, but not the whole.
It wouldn't be a little bitmore.

SPEAKER_02 (39:40):
Yeah, definitely not the floor at the bottom.
Right.
Or the 20th floor or whatever.
I don't even know what did theysay what floor that was, the the
plane actually.

SPEAKER_01 (39:52):
It was pretty high up there, I know that.

SPEAKER_02 (39:53):
Yeah.
So I you even if you said tenfloors below that, right?
That's fifty feet.

SPEAKER_00 (40:01):
The fires weakened the tresses supporting the
floors, making them sag.
The sagging floors pull down theexterior steel columns to the
point where exterior columnsbowed inward with a damage to
the core columns, the bucklingexterior columns could no longer
support the buildings, causingthem to collapse.

(40:22):
But that still doesn't makesense because once they have
toppled.

SPEAKER_02 (40:26):
I I mean, if you watch the videos, the many, many
videos that are out there, thatbuilding, both of them, come
down, free fall.
They I mean they're just likethey're not connected to like a
Las Vegas demolition.
Right, exactly.
Like a demolition, and that'sexactly what I think happened.

SPEAKER_01 (40:43):
Do you guys remember um what you were actually doing
the morning of?
Oh yeah.
Oh, dude, I gotta Isn't thatweird how like like a large
event that grips everybody?
Like everybody remembers whatthey were doing.
Yeah.
So I was smoking weed on mycouch.

SPEAKER_00 (40:59):
Do you ready?

SPEAKER_01 (41:01):
With my mom, I was smoking weed before school
because that's the only I haveADHD, short story.
But um that's the only way I cancalm down.
My mom used to let me smokeweed.
So I would smoke a little weedbefore school and then I would
go off to school and then notfuck around.

SPEAKER_00 (41:16):
Yeah.
But uh Dave, what does momalways tell you?
If you study high and you takethe test high, you're gonna get
high scores.

SPEAKER_01 (41:24):
Um I don't remember that speech, but my mom is
definitely trying to help meout.
But it's also it's calledAdderall, dude.
Yeah.
No, I can't take that either.
I can't take that.
But I thought I thought it was amovie when we were watching it.
I was we my mom watched uh themorning news every you know,

(41:45):
every day, every morning, anduh, we were watching that.
I was smoking pot, and then myschool called me and said, You
don't need to come to school, soI continued to smoke pot the
rest of the day.

SPEAKER_00 (41:56):
That's what's weird.
You must have missed a littlebit of class because I I believe
those hit in the morning.
Yeah, because where I was was inmiddle school in class.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I just got in a watch.
You guys are a bunch of youngfolks, like a fossil watch or
something.
I thought it was awesome, and Iwas reflecting the sun off of my

(42:17):
watch into my best friend's facewhile they were making this
announcement.
You see, never forget that,dude.

SPEAKER_01 (42:24):
Crazy moments when 9-11 hit.
What's yours, right?

SPEAKER_00 (42:27):
I'll never forget that because he pulled me into
the hallway.
It was just like, are youfucking kidding, babe?
And I went to like a shelteredschool, he dropped an F, dude,
and I was like, Oh, I fucked up.
Yeah, I fucking blew it.
You know, I'm not gonna reportthis because this is kind of
cool.
Go you, you know.
I get it now.
All right, your your F bomb hasjust let me know I fucking blew
it.
Right.

(42:47):
You know?

SPEAKER_02 (42:47):
Yeah.
So I was uh when it actuallyhappened, I was sleeping because
I was working nights at thetime.
And uh somebody came in and andwoke me up and yeah, I walked
out and saw that and then bythat time I don't think the
second plane it hit.
I think I actually a witnessdown watched the the video of

(43:10):
that, or you know, they werethey were filming the one or the
news and then the other one hitor that's wild.

SPEAKER_01 (43:16):
It's so wild that they came down so fast.

SPEAKER_00 (43:18):
So here's some uh some speculation for you boys.
Yeah.
So there's there's a bunch ofconspiracy theories on this.
The the couple ones that I know,um the the owner of the World
Trade Center ate breakfast inthe top of the World Trade
Center like every day.
Every day without fail for 30years.

(43:39):
Only day he missed was 9-11.
Yep.
Okay, that's a weird thing.

SPEAKER_02 (43:42):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (43:43):
He also got a ton of money in insurance for that.
I don't know that that was himbecause this is another time
where it's like the Charlie Kirkthing, right?
If this is truly a big muse,like it's hard for me to truly
and I could be swayed, but liketo truly believe that like
presidents and all these peopleare in on it, right?
Like, two, that's fucking crazyto me.
Like it, you know.

(44:04):
But anyway, um the other stuff.

SPEAKER_02 (44:05):
I mean, it's if you look at the history of America
though, just for a minute.
Look back at all of the thingsthat have happened, and then the
FBI's been involved in,presidents have been involved
in.
Exactly.
There's no there's no way for meto say that he or she or
whatever president wasn'tinvolved, didn't know anything.

(44:28):
I mean, it's uh it's almostimpossible for me to say that
and to think that because ofeverything that's gone on in the
history of American government.
That's all shady.
It's hard to trust it's hard totrust.
I've lost I've lost all the wayup in Vietnam.
They came and they basicallythat's I think for me, that's
when the downfall of theAmerican government and

(44:52):
everything, that's when that'swhen the public started not
trusting them anymore becausethey blatantly lied to our faces
during that whole shit show.

SPEAKER_00 (45:01):
That's true.
And that's happen in history.

SPEAKER_01 (45:03):
I mean look what happened what's happening now.
The government shut down.

SPEAKER_00 (45:05):
I know, and this thing we Yeah, the government
shut down too, which is odd,like we just had the Epstein
thing where there's the filesand there's not the files.
Did they we just had the CharlieKirk thing, we just had this,
and I understand like a littlebit of the logic, but here's
what I think with Epstein too islike if I knew that your name
was on that list, I could getyou to do whatever the fuck I

(45:26):
want for the rest of my life.

SPEAKER_02 (45:28):
Yeah, not necessarily, and people this is
a big thing that people have torealize that it's just it's not
just what happens in America.
You've got people on that listthat are all over the world.
You got people in Prince UpperAshley, Prince Andrew, all over
the world.
So for somebody to take thatlist and and first off, if you

(45:50):
put the list out, what what'sgonna happen to him?
They basically already did.

SPEAKER_01 (45:54):
They showed you pictures of all these people
with it, and now they're sayingthat Trump was an FBI agent.
So Trump could be in a bunkerwith 18 little girls with his
pants down, and he's gonna bedismissed because oh, he was an
FBI agent.
And they were also saying thatEpstein was CIA.
So that excuses that too.
And Gisleine Maxwell just cameout and basically pardoned both

(46:16):
of them.
Yeah.
And now she gets to go to a nicelittle prison and she's probably
gonna get let off.
And now they're talking about apardon.
So there's holes in a lot ofstories, man.
Yeah.
This is why I don't have anytrust for my government at all.

SPEAKER_00 (46:29):
But let's get back to 9-11 while we're while we're
I started.
Side note, sorry.
Yeah.
I get heated when that was aboutthe biggest, the biggest, the
biggest holes.
Oh my god.
The biggest holes Explain.
Um the biggest holes in this arefor me are the free fall of the
building.
One, two, uh tower uh buildingseven falling by itself, not

(46:51):
getting hit.

SPEAKER_01 (46:52):
So I didn't even know about that.
Was there a plane wreckage?
I don't even think there wasplane wreckage.
Oh, I just so the other thingabout this is the plane.
How do you get hit?
How does a building get hitwithout plane wreckage on the
field, bro?

SPEAKER_00 (47:03):
Building seven also fell.

SPEAKER_01 (47:04):
That was the that was the document office.
Did you know that?

SPEAKER_00 (47:08):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (47:08):
I didn't even know about that.

SPEAKER_00 (47:10):
Yep, it was behind the it was behind the two towers
and it fell around the time thatthe other one's dead.
Where's the plane at?

SPEAKER_01 (47:19):
There's no plane wreckage.
Can't get hit by a plane if theplane wasn't there.

SPEAKER_02 (47:24):
Yeah.
Yeah, there's all kinds of uhthat this one's holographic too.
Where they seven.
And shit like that.

SPEAKER_01 (47:36):
And then it detonates and then they fall.
Yeah.
It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (47:39):
So so yeah, the big holes are the free fall of the
building.
Yep.
Building seven falling on itsown, why?
Yep.
The countless, the countlessphone calls that have been
scrubbed from the internet ofpeople claiming an explosion
happened, calling the police,not that a plane hit.
Yep.
There's like 160 of those onthat day.
Right.
Yeah.
I just heard an explosion at theWorld Trade Center, send

(48:00):
everybody.
Just heard an explosion at theWorld Trade Center.
But let's not talk about that,right?

SPEAKER_01 (48:04):
That's it.

SPEAKER_00 (48:06):
This has everything to do with it.
Right.
If that happened first, thenthat plane's irrelevant.
That thing was coming down, itdoesn't fucking matter.
You're just blaming someone now.

SPEAKER_02 (48:15):
Yep.
Plus, oh, so you gotta throw thePentagon in there.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (48:21):
In the Boeing 747 went through that, and there's
no wing, no nothing.
Yeah, no footage in the mostsecure fucking building in in
our country.

SPEAKER_02 (48:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (48:31):
Other than the White House?

SPEAKER_02 (48:33):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (48:34):
Really?

SPEAKER_02 (48:35):
Yeah.
I bet to the I bet the Pentagonhas more security than the White
House.
I'll bet you're right.
I'll bet it does.

SPEAKER_01 (48:43):
I bet they're not even there.
Why would you say, hey, thepresident's in this building?
Right.
I mean, it's just an openinvitation to you know.
So those are the big theories.

SPEAKER_00 (48:54):
The twin towers were brought down by explosives.
Yep.
Missile hit the Pentagon.

SPEAKER_02 (49:01):
Yeah, I don't know about a missile.
I don't know what that was atthe Pentagon.
I don't think it was a missile.

SPEAKER_00 (49:06):
Uh it could be um, but the government knew about
the attacks and stood themilitary down.
Insider traders knew about theattacks.

SPEAKER_02 (49:16):
Uh yeah, the big one there would be to follow the
money who made the most moneythat day.
Where did the money go?

SPEAKER_01 (49:22):
Well, there was one trillion dollars that went
missing the morning of, and itaired actually on news uh for
maybe 20 seconds, and never I'veseen that.
Yeah, it's like why did thesethings happen?
Oh shit.
You know, but let's not talkabout that right now.

SPEAKER_00 (49:37):
But I think that part of 9-11 was also to get the
war going that we want, right?
We only do wars with people'snatural resources we want.
That's just the fucking truth.
I don't care what anyone says ifyou have good oil, if you have
good, you know, we're coming foryou, right?
Um, it's just a big machine.
But I I don't know.
I guess what I'm trying to getat with all this, and I I know

(49:57):
that this is very different fromour normal episode, but I'm I
kind of like it.
Um I I just I'm sick of beinglied to.
I I don't care what the fuck thetruth is.
I just want to know.
You know, I like you said, youremember You want clarity.
You remember exactly what you'redoing that day.
Dave was playing with his wienerand smoking some dupes, dude.

SPEAKER_03 (50:15):
Was not.

SPEAKER_00 (50:16):
Oh yeah, that's a you went into detail about that,
dude.
That's why it touched to theright a little bit.
Anyway, anyway, I'm fuckingplaying two fat blunts with mom.

SPEAKER_01 (50:26):
That's what I was that's what I was smoking for.

SPEAKER_00 (50:27):
I was getting in trouble and heard a teacher say
fuck, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (50:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (50:31):
Um but like I'm just I'm ready, I'm ready to hear the
truth.
And and the Charlie Kirk one, Ithink it it bugs me a lot, and
I'm not saying it bugs me morethan 9-11, because obviously a
lot more people were lost 9-11,and it was a big scandal, but
9-11 didn't have the technologythat we have now.
Like, like the same, like, likeI get there was video, but it
means it's gonna be green.

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Or so we or so we thought.

SPEAKER_01 (50:53):
Usually, usually the public's 50 years behind the
military.
The military is 50 years aheadof us.
And they I mean, look what theygive us.
They give us phones, they giveus lab.
We have this, but think aboutwhere they're at.

SPEAKER_00 (51:07):
They know exactly what I'm ready for the FBI to
start being a little moretransparent with us, right?
I don't need I don't need toalways know if there's a threat,
you know, on airport andwhatever.
I don't want to know all that.
I don't need to be honest.
I don't either.
I mean, that that would be agood idea.
But when it comes to somethinglike this where we're actually
served a video where he's shotin the neck.

SPEAKER_01 (51:25):
Right.
Here, watch.

SPEAKER_00 (51:26):
And then you're gonna tell us that it's like
it's just the most bogus storyever, dude.

SPEAKER_01 (51:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (51:30):
Right.
It'd be like me showing up tothe office at one o'clock and
being like, what were you doing?
Like, I talked to a customerabout what stuff?
Don't ask more questions.

SPEAKER_02 (51:41):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (51:41):
Like, that's kind of how they're treating us, though,
as people.
It's like, dude, it's it's timeto nut up, dude.
Like, it's yeah, it's time toeither fucking tell the truth or
or accept that people fuckinghate you and just move on
because I don't trust thefucking thing.

SPEAKER_02 (51:54):
This is honestly, this is what I'm hoping is
happening.
Okay.
We've been lied to for many,many, many years throughout the
government and throughout thethe whole of everything.
I know that there's there'sgotta be a changing of the tide,
right?
There has to be at some point.

(52:15):
You have to bring those peoplethat have been doing this shit,
the lying and the deceitfulshit, you've got to bring them
out of the shadows somehow.

SPEAKER_00 (52:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (52:25):
And I really hope that that's what's happening.
What Trump is actually doing.
What he's trying, yes.
Yeah.
What he's trying to do.

SPEAKER_01 (52:34):
They're doing it with money.
Yep.
They're doing it, you know, in alot of different aspects, but
it's it's crazy to watch, youknow, the trend.
And it's gonna be scary.
I know it's gonna be scary.
Absolutely.
I think I thought they're gonnagive us little droplets here and
there, and it's just gonna grow.

(52:54):
They want our eyes off uhsomething.
They want our eyes off of ourfinancial system collapsing.
Because that's what's happening.
The dollar's lost 50% of itsbuying power.
Yeah.
We're not a petrol dollar.
Right.
Oh, we've lost that.

SPEAKER_02 (53:10):
We came off the gold standard a long time.

SPEAKER_01 (53:12):
And they're talking about doing digital currencies
and all that.
So obviously, they don't wantour minds on the financial
collapse.
Digital digital IDs, digitalcurrency.
EU.
They just said that Americanshave to surrender your
biometrics before you go to theEU.
Oh, yeah.
Everything, iris, yourfingerprint, everything.
Wow.
I'm sorry to say this, guys, butuh it's they they want to

(53:36):
digitally know what youpurchase.

SPEAKER_02 (53:38):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (53:39):
They want to program money to say you can't buy
firearms, you can't buy bullets,you can only buy this type of
meat.
You know, it's disgusting whatwhat what it all boils down to.
And it's it's exactly what yousaid.
It's evil people doing evilshit.
And for me, I've studied thisshit my entire life.

(54:01):
Right when 9-11 happened, uh itjust you know kind of grew in
me, but I've haven't trusted mygovernment since like eighth
grade.

SPEAKER_00 (54:10):
I want to, too.
That's the worst.
I agree with you.
I that's the worst.

SPEAKER_01 (54:13):
But there is good, there is good sides of it.
There's good and bad.
If it was all bad, we'd be incages and shot in the back of
the head.
Okay, let's let's be real aboutthis.
There is a faction of goodpeople in our government, and I
believe it's it's what Trump isactually doing.
Yep.
You know what I mean?
But it's we're gonna go througha lot of shit to get there,

(54:33):
guys.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, and that's on that'smy real opinion.

unknown (54:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (54:37):
You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 (54:38):
I don't even care.
Like like going back to like theEpstein list, I don't care if we
know everything.
I just care that's being dealtwith.
I care about it.
I want prosecutions.
I want those people put away.
I want those people put away.
You don't touch little kids,man.

SPEAKER_01 (54:50):
I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 (54:51):
You're like just something.
And that's what bugs me themost, right?
There's one guy taking the fallfor this huge ring.
And the other side of that, too,is that he was paid by Israel
too.

SPEAKER_01 (55:01):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 (55:01):
And I almost like my theory on that, which is really
weird, is that all of thesepeople were brought to this
place, right, with free reign byEpstein as a way to manipulate
and control said people.
Because now you have now youhave dirt on them.
It's black.
Now they can't run for officeagain if I release this video of
you being in a 13-year-old.

SPEAKER_02 (55:22):
Yeah, right.
But you can yeah, but you can.
That's the sick part.
You look at look at ourgovernment as a whole, look at
senators uh on either side, itdoesn't matter.
Right.
They're both involved.
Most of them are criminals insome way, shape, or form.

unknown (55:36):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (55:36):
They've been arrested for DUIs, they've had
uh whatever.
I mean, you name it.
They've they've had so muchshit.
Nobody gives a shit anymore.
No.
Weird.
They treated, you know, they'rethey're treated like leaders,
right?
But they're not.
They're supposed to be publicservants.
They're supposed to be servingour interests, our public

(55:57):
interests.
That's not what they are doing.
Right.
In any way, shape, or form.

SPEAKER_00 (56:01):
That's true.

SPEAKER_01 (56:02):
It's sad to watch the downfall.

SPEAKER_00 (56:04):
It's weird to me that like when Cash Patel's on
and he's talking about theCharlie Kirk case and stuff,
that like somebody with commonsense has not raised their hand
and been like, so you're tellingus that he climbed up on the
roof, uh, reassembled a gun, andthen uh climb or disassembled
the gun before climbing off theroof, and then reassembled the
gun in the woods.

(56:24):
Right.
But can you show us how this isdone?

SPEAKER_02 (56:27):
How many people are asking those questions?
Everybody.

SPEAKER_01 (56:31):
They're not letting people ask those questions.
Right, but I mean I think theycleaned up the crime scene,
whisked everything away.
Right now, nothing happened.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's it's wild.
Yeah, it's it's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (56:43):
I just I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (56:46):
I think you do know.
I think Yahoo knows.

SPEAKER_00 (56:50):
Once again, this episode is brought to you
admired by Yahoo.
When it comes to sports, when itcomes to porn, and when it comes
to general searching for taco,though.
You search it up.
But yeah, I don't know.
Um, there's just there's so manyquestions, but I I agree with
you guys that there's gotta be achange in tide.
It almost goes back to theseparation of church and state,
and I know that I know that'sbig.

(57:12):
You guys aren't crazy religious,or they're like, I know that,
but that's a big thing at thesame time.
But I think that that that wasreally a more of our morals
aligning with the church than itwas like we have to, you know,
we don't even pray in schoolsanymore, we don't sing, you
know, or do the national anthem.
It's not a fucking thing.
So I think that the more thatwe've distanced ourselves from

(57:35):
that way of thinking, thefurther that we've gone down
this evil path from the world.
And I don't know.
That's just that's that's that'sthat's where my head goes.
And I think that 9-11 is a bigthing, and I think there's a lot
of people involved that don'twant it coming to light.
They're gonna do everything theycan to not make it public.
But there's more to this thansomeone hijacking a plane,

(57:55):
driving at 600 miles, whateverit was.
I mean, it was like an hour toget to New York from where they
were.
You can tell me our Air Forcecan't track that.

SPEAKER_01 (58:02):
There was no black box either in the plane.

SPEAKER_00 (58:04):
Like, it's just there's so much weird shit.
Like, it's it's yeah, I don'tget it.

SPEAKER_01 (58:08):
What was it again?
Remind me, it was uh ten guyswith uh box cutters.
Yeah, got that?
That was their thing.
That's I remember box cutters, Idon't remember how many guys.
Right.
Yeah.
It was it's such a rabbit holeto jump down.

SPEAKER_00 (58:23):
Here's not a myth, here's a truth, right?
No, I can't say this.
Never mind.
I'll say this off air.
The guys that did 9-11 wereprobably promised a bunch of
virgins prior to contrarybelieve uh uh you actually don't
want a virgin, you want aborn-again stripper Christian,
dude.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, she's dropped it down low,she's got the fucking heels with

(58:44):
the fucking fish in them, dude.
But she could suck a fuckingbasketball through a straw.
And that's why you marry her.
You know what I mean?
The virgins?
What do I do with that?
Yeah, they don't do that.
What do I do with that?
Why don't I put that in mymouth?
Yeah.
Ah, you pissed with that.
You know, like do you want tohear that?
No.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, before amotherfucker before a

(59:06):
motherfucker convinces me to gokill myself in a crazy way, for
70 versions.
It's gotta be like 40 born-againstripper Christians, every race,
every nationality, all withdifferent talents, right?
Oh, yeah.
Like, this is Kama Sutra, andshe can stick it backwards,
dude.
This deer is uh, you know.

SPEAKER_02 (59:26):
Oh my god.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, 40, 40 dirty sluts andknow what they're doing.

SPEAKER_00 (59:31):
I can make you come any way I want.
Just sit down.
You know, it's just like sitdown, daddy.
You know, like it's like, okay,now let's talk Taco Bell terms.
You know, am I gonna give freetacos for life?
And moving popcorn?
Where do we draw in there?

SPEAKER_02 (59:46):
I can see you off as somebody for Taco Bell free for
the rest of your life.
Yeah.
Unfortunately born again.
Strip aggressions, probably.

SPEAKER_03 (59:54):
You know?

SPEAKER_01 (59:54):
Someone someone's gotta do it.

SPEAKER_02 (59:56):
Someone's gotta do it.

SPEAKER_00 (59:58):
But oh man, I Thank you so much, Mr.
Dave, for joining us today.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:03):
Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:04):
We went down rabbit hole and we showed that even a
conspiracy theory episode can begoofier than fact.
Damn it.
I like that.
I think you should be on theshow again.
I really liked your input.
I would love it.
We've had some awesome guests onthe show.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:15):
We have.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:17):
Don't tell them I said that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:21):
No, that's good.
Yeah, it's uh I think the newseason moving forward.
I think we'll probably hear alittle bit more of this.
Just some different wild, crazyshit that's going on.
And I'm gonna be honest that I'mnot gonna know anything about
it.
So it's probably gonna make itfunny as hell.
I study it every day.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:42):
Dude, here's a here's a twist that we could do,
alright?
And I'm saying this on the airbecause I believe in it.
Here's a twist that we could do,right?
Since I know a lot about thesethese uh conspiracies of what's
going on, and like differentones that I could bring to
light, right?
Yep.
How funny would it be if youfound a historical event like
pre-1900s?
It could be any.
And you just brought it and yousaid, tell me about the Council

(01:01:03):
of Trent, Eric.
Oh, yeah.
I can ask you three questions.
That's all I can ask you.
And I have to guess what it is.
It's gonna be funnier than fuck,dude.
Oh no.
Well, all these guys named Trentwere smoking pot, right?
Probably got it from Dave's mom.
Yeah.
They were looking on Yahoo! Ohmy god.
They showed up and they're like,let's make this a council.

(01:01:23):
You know what I'm saying?

unknown (01:01:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:24):
Let's control the club.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:25):
So there's the twist, dude.
We have we have our content likethis.
Yep.
And then you can bring up anyfact that's ever happened in the
history.
Like, tell me how a NationalFootball League was started,
Eric.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:36):
Oh, yeah.
I think that would be a reallygood twist.
Yeah.
I like that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:40):
There was a thruple, okay?
The guy's name's NationalFootball and League.
They all started fucking, dude.
Like, fucking kangaroos, dude.
Triple Puss style.
Right.
Okay.
You're like, let's make it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:53):
Triple Puss.
Oh god.
All right.
I think that's enough for thisone.
Triple Puss, dude.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:59):
It's gonna go on the shirt.
Kangaroo.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:02):
I think people would like that.
They would strangely buy that alot.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:04):
That'd be a top show.
All right, y'all.
Well, thanks for hanging with usagain.
Um, we'll have some new contentout very soon.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:14):
Uh dude, I have a triple pus song already, real
quick.
Monogamy, monogamous, until youmeet that triple puss.
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:29):
Oh my god.
All right, Joe.
That's way that's the way tosign up.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:32):
I was all about monogamy until I had that triple
pus inside of me.
Wait, I'd be inside of it.
But it would be anyway.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:41):
All right.
Thank you for having me, guys.
You bet.
Thanks.
We'll uh we'll catch you on thenext episode.
Peace out.