September 27, 2023 • 35 mins
Ever felt the pressure to imitate the success of others in your upline, sideline, or even women within other companies?
"Copy what I'm doing, and you'll succeed!"
We've all been there, but what if there was another way? Would you dare to go against the grain, to follow your own path to success even if it takes longer but makes you happier?
This episode takes you on a journey of self-discovery where we question if there's potential for a fresh, individualized approach to growing your business, ditching the rinse-and-repeat cookie-cutter approaches.
So, if you've ever felt the weight of conformity in your network marketing journey, now is the perfect time to explore the uncharted territory of individuality and authenticity. Join us as we chat through the untapped power of pursuing success on your terms. Together, we'll uncover the potential for a new, more personalized approach to nurturing and expanding your business.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to Rock's Talks, the podcast that helps
network marketers grow theirbusiness on social media.
I'm Roxanne Wilson, socialmedia network marketing coach,
with nearly a decade ofexperience in the space, as well
as television and radioexperience, and a passion to
really help you and empower youto be the best network marketer
you can be, which means knowingyourself and knowing your brand.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I'm Taryn Soa, your social media sidekick.
I run all things behind thescenes at Rock's Talks, While
being the right hand woman toRoxanne, I also strategize and
manage our full social mediaplan.
So I would love to share withyou the tips, the happenings,
(00:50):
all the things going on in thesocial media world.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Each week, we're here to give you the latest and
greatest direct selling, socialselling, network marketing,
whatever you like to call it.
The end game is for you toreally understand your business,
understand yourself and yourbrand and to rock it on social
media.
There's a rumor going on rightnow.
It's a very important rumor,taryn up my heart and it's been
(01:17):
all over the internet.
For those of us who love andthink that it sounds like all
the guys are in one place, likeliterary today they're all in
New York City and the rumor isthat they're going to surprise
everyone at the VMAs.
I haven't watched the MTV VMAsin like decades, but if it turns
out to be true, you know I'llbe watching tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Thought you should know the VMAs are tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, which I think that's a weird night, but again,
I haven't watched it in forever.
So why would I know that?
Tuesday seems weird to me, butmaybe that's what the kids do
these days.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I thought they were always on Sundays, so odd,
interesting.
I literally was just now veryconfused.
I'm like wait, it's Sunday, whyare we working?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yes, so I'm very excited about that because you
know my boys, my men that arenow men and think they've done
it differently.
Lots of people have gotten backtogether and they have like
broke the mold of reunions Greatexample, but actually boys like
they never left each otherright?
Do you know that right now, 98degrees is practicing for their
(02:22):
reunion?
Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, you guys, if you heard the last few episodes
or whenever I said like, justlet it be, you don't need a
reunion- your kids would sayotherwise, but anyhow.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But you know, it's interesting because, like you
think about boy bands andthere's a definite mold for boy
bands.
It's almost cookie cutter,right.
There's a formula for boy bands, and you have to ask yourself
is that the only way to do it?
No, has anyone really done itdifferently, though?
Is there a boy band out therethat has broke the mold?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And has been successful?
I mean, I feel like you're theone to know the answer to that.
It's definitely not me.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I am and I would say, not yet, folks, not yet.
However, that doesn't fit themold in everything.
Okay, because listen, you thinkabout like music in general.
I think we could say thatTaylor Swift has broken the mold
.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
She's a projector.
Did you know that?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I didn't Adele's a manifestor.
Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
No, there's a funny thing going on.
Only Adele can, like, take anine year sabbatical, come in
for like nine months, do a songand then leave again for nine
years, and whoever posted thatabout her doesn't know.
She wasn't a bad manifestor,I'm like she's a manifestor,
that's why.
But yeah, she's a manifestor,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, taylor Swift breaking the mold.
Yeah, I'm on for that.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Don't you think she has how she has, like she's in a
lot of ways, not just the waysof her owning her own shiz and
redoing her own music, but moldbreaking.
I would like to think we'regoing into a place, into an era,
where everything does not haveto be cookie cutter to be
successful.
(04:07):
I think we're going there.
Don't you think, like you don'thave to be cookie cutter to be
successful?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Oh, 100%, which leads me to direct selling.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Okay, which is the quintessential cookie cutter
mold.
Put in a mold bake, put in theoven.
You come out and you all looklike stepford wives.
Business in a box, business ina box.
Is there another way?
1000%.
(04:36):
And if there is another way,can you be successful at that
other way?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So yes, also, I think it takes a pretty strong
mindset to do it a different way.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
No offense to anyone else, but it probably takes a
manifesto the other way.
Here's why I say that Becauseif you know human design, the
reason I say that is because youhave so much pressure.
You have so much pressureencouraging you to go the way
that everybody else has gone.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I think that's the selling point of coming into
direct sales.
We already have the formula,you just follow it.
That's it Sounds easy, doesn'tit?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
That sounds like leave your brain at the door,
doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And I guess in some ways that's refreshing.
I don't have to think I canjust do this and make money
awesome.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yes, especially if you're coming from it like it's
a side hustle and then somethingyou want to grow pretty quickly
.
It's like, yeah, I don't wantto think about it, I just want
to get my feet in and go.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
This reminds me of myself as we're thinking,
because when I joined, Idefinitely was in a space
transitioning jobs and thingswhere I didn't want to think and
it was like, okay, this issomething that I can do while
I'm figuring out where I want togo with my career.
I can do this, I don't have tothink.
I literally was like I don'thave to think and I said, all
right, I will give it.
I think I said three months,maybe I don't know, but I'm like
(06:06):
I will give it probably moretime than that, but I will do
exactly.
I'll be coachable.
As I say, I'll do exactly whatyou say to do and see where it
gets me.
And I got my.
I mean, listen, I was.
I earned a trip to Banff withinminutes.
Basically, I earned myinvestment back.
I got a $1,000 bonus within thefirst month.
(06:29):
So I hear that.
But I also raved against themachine.
I could only play along for solong and then I was like my
brain has to be here.
I have to.
I cannot just and not not.
I don't want to say like.
When I say my brain, I meanthinking for myself has to
become a part of this, like now.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Was it because you were reaching a plateau or no?
Like what was it?
You just kind of knew, like hmm.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I knew there was a better way.
It's almost like if you aresitting there and think about
this, like you're like in agroup of people and they're like
, okay, we are going to go,we're at Disneyland I don't know
, I've been in the ages, I'vebeen in Disneyland and we're
going to get to the actual MagicKingdom.
And you're at the front gateand they're telling you, okay,
go this way.
And the way they give you islike around, like Adventureland
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and all these ways.
But you're like I can just godirectly straight.
Yes, I could get there that way.
But why would I want to do thatwhen I know in my heart of
hearts I can go this way?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
and get to where I want to go.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And that's what it was for me.
I'm like why am I doing allthese things that are
unnecessary?
One for me, this will workbetter.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
For you.
Well, someone else might thinkthat that's the wrong way.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, and I think part of it was well too is like
why do we all have to go thesame way?
In my head, I'm like why do weall have to go the same way?
If I would prefer to see these,I want to.
Let's say, I want to go throughTomorrowland.
Why can't I go throughTomorrowland?
Why do I have to go back toAdventureland to get there?
And I think the problem is thatwe don't celebrate that enough
(08:12):
in direct selling, if you,because I'll tell you right now
when I started to go, I'm goingto go this way.
So the people that were aroundmy level whatever you want to
call it and they or below,they're like oh yeah, this
sounds great.
People who were like mayberight where I was or above, were
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very bothered by the fact thatI wanted to do it a different
way.
Only a few innovators were likeyou're right, let's go this way.
But it bothered them because Iwas doing something that wasn't
the norm, that wasn't the wasn'tthe cookie cutter.
Now some people would say toyou, that's because it's not
duplicatable.
But that's not the case.
They didn't take enough time tosee if it was duplicatable,
they just didn't like goinganother route.
(08:53):
So then you go this other routeand you get there faster, and
then that bothers people too.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Oh yeah, so what's the answer?
Where are we going with this, Iguess?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
let's come out of Disneyland for a while and come
back to reality.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I think the thing is, I was having fun at Disney.
Land.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I know I kind of was like oh, I need to go.
Yeah, I think the thing is thislike we're going back to
Disneyland, Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, got my ticket.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
You know Disneyland has this whole thing in Disney
World.
Disney is this thing where ifyou work, if you get on calling
an employee, you're a character,right, they ever call everyone
characters and if you were acharacter in Tomorrowland, like
that's like the space, likeFutureland, basically you're not
allowed to be seen inAdventureland.
(09:41):
Is it Adventureland?
Did I keep them called foranything?
I think it's Adventureland, theone that you said last.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Now I've never been to.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Disneyland, but you've been to Disney World.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, disney World.
Okay, then they're the same.
Then, yeah, there's anAdventureland.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, magic Kingdom, basically, is the same as
Disneyland, so like you're notallowed to be seen in
Adventureland, which is likeHuck Finn and all those, because
someone from the future wouldnever be in the past.
That's why they have tunnels,because they never want to
confuse kids.
And you are in this section.
(10:12):
You should never be in thatsection.
It's a little like and yeah,and so where am I going with
this?
You're like, okay, and yourpoint is this If I am sitting
there at the front of Disneylandand my guide is telling me to
go to Adventureland, to get toMagic Kingdom, but the truth of
(10:33):
the matter and I mean thecastles, what I say, magic
Kingdom is the castle, right,but the truth of the matter is I
am not meant for Adventureland,I'm actually meant for
Tomorrowland.
It's not going to work for me,I'm not welcome in that land,
you get me.
So let me bring this back to ifyou're being taught oh, here's
(10:53):
a good example If you're beingtaught that the only that, the
way from your upline or whomever, that the way to run your
business and be successful is todo what she did, and what she
did is she did a text messagingsystem and she did Facebook ads.
This is a real world exampleFacebook ads that led to text
messages and then you send outtext messages for 60 days and
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you are someone who really donot like to do Facebook or you
really don't like texting, butyou feel like you have to do
that because she says to do it.
You are not going to besuccessful, even if you do
exactly what she does.
You're not going to besuccessful because A it doesn't
feel right to you, so yourenergy is not going to be there.
It's going to fall flat.
(11:37):
You're not going to besuccessful because there's
probably a reason it doesn'tfeel right for you.
Your gut, your intuition istelling you.
Maybe you know that youraudience, they don't do texting.
Maybe that's what it is, butthere's something that you're
ignoring.
So you could spend time, youcould spend money, you could
spend all the things trying tobe in Adventureland, but if
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you're really meant to be inTomorrowland, it ain't going to
work.
It's never going to work, andthe thing about it is indirect
selling.
We so want to be like Mike.
If I could be like Mike, I wantto be, I want to be, I want to
be like Mike.
Do you remember that song?
No no, don't know that one, itwas a commercial If the kid
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wanted to be like Michael Jordanand there's a whole song if I
could be like Mike, like Mike,okay, my husband might know that
one.
Yeah yeah, you are a youngster,that's true.
The thing is, if we spend allthis time trying to be like
someone else, we are actuallynegating ourselves.
And it could.
It might sound cliche, I don'tcare, but you are the best you,
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y'all you can only be the bestyou.
I cannot be a great Terran.
I cannot frolic in the woodslike Terran was on her Instagram
stories.
Did y'all see that?
It was like an infinite fairyall rolled into one.
I can't do that.
I mean, I have good hair for it, but beyond that, I do.
Right, she had a flower crown,y'all she was doing that.
(13:12):
She made again.
See, I rest my case.
I could not be a great Terran.
I would be a, a, a.
I would be a poor imitation ofTerran.
You'd be like what is that?
Bring me the, bring me theactual Terran.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I want the real deal yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Terran duplicate.
We have to realize that even ina company and even in a
business and even in industrywhere, yes, there's certain
things and skills that you cando over and over again
repetition we have to be able toput on our own flair and
celebrate that.
And here's what happens.
When someone tries to go dotheir own thing, what happens is
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people go oh yeah, it's notgoing to be successful for you,
or you didn't hit this, this,you haven't hit this mouse on
yet because you did it your ownway.
Maybe it just takes a differentamount of time.
And who's to say that if youdid it the way everyone else did
, that you would get there,because I got news for you, baby
girl.
You wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I mean, I think about when I joined a more recent
company.
The advice was okay, now reachout to all your family and
friends.
And I'm like, oh gosh, I reallythought this advice was dead.
But that advice might work forsomeone else.
It is not going to work for me,and I knew it wasn't going to
work for me, so I didn't evenbother with it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Do you know how many people I know that come in there
.
I don't want to do that.
I don't want to reach out toeveryone, but then they feel
like they have to because theydo it anyways and look like
spammy Tammy and and it comesand they feel weird about it,
but then they're like, oh but,or they're not willing to accept
that.
If you're not going to do itthat way, it might take you
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longer, and that is okay.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That one's a hard pill to swallow because it's
like you know, when you arecoming into direct sales you
don't want it to take long, likeyou do want to see some wins in
the beginning.
So it's like how do you getyour footing right away to find
what works for you?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
You know.
So I coach a lot of networkmarketers as you know this,
taryn and it can be a constantstruggle for them, like they'll
come to me and say I don't wantto do that, I don't want to do
other reachouts.
I'm like great, now you have toremember that.
You have to write that down.
I tell them, like if that's howyou really feel, that is great.
We will set up a system for youthat works for you.
(15:27):
But you have to understand thatyou are going to feel the
pressure.
The natural current is going tobe pulling you the other way.
You're going to hear people in,like your little power hours or
your sessions where everybodymeets together and you listen to
these.
They're going to tell you thesestories of how they were
successful and it's going to bedifferent from what you said.
And when they look to you andyou may not be as far along as
(15:50):
they want you to be or you wantto be, they're going to say,
well, did you do your reachouts,did you reach out to?
And you're going to feel likeyou're not where you want to be
because you didn't do it the waythat you already said.
You didn't want to do it thatway, and it's a constant.
I have to reframe.
I'm like I'm just telling youthis now and I'm going to let
you know.
I'm going to remind you of thisbecause you're going to come
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back and go.
Ah, I wonder, or you're goingto start doing those things and
you've got to remember that.
That's not, that that's not.
You didn't want that in thefirst place.
Mm, hmm, mm, hmm.
Constant battle and struggle.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Constant.
I mean, I felt it and I'm like,oh, this is, maybe I should
even any question yourself, butyou need to trust yourself in
this business.
This is still your business,even though it does come with a
cookie cutter option, you canstill trust yourself and you do
your own cookies.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yes, you can, but here's the here's.
What I love about coaching is Idon't have a dog in the fight.
I don't actually makecommission off of your sales,
yeah.
So if you come to me and yousay my goal is I want to recruit
or I want to, whatever yourgoal is, I'm here to help you
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get to that goal without havingthat, oh my gosh.
Yeah, she says she wants torecruit, but if she sells 85
more things this week, I get agreat commission, I get a bonus
or I get a trip.
That didn't happen, yeah.
So it's literally like that'swhat I love about coaching is
like I want to see you succeedon how you define success, and I
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am not personally benefitingfrom your activities except for
just feeling good and excitedfor you.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I think that's a really good call out and that's
where more confusion can come in, because you're applying,
they're also in business forthemselves, right?
So they're going to have a biasof what they're coaching you on
, because then they benefit 100%necessarily bad.
I'm not calling anyone out.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
It just is the way that the system is built right,
and you're so right about thatand I hear that there.
But there always comes a timein that relationship where, even
with the most supportive upline, there are seeds of doubt and
distrust from their downline,because the downline knows you
make money off of me.
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I have seen some of the mostwhat I would call the healthiest
relationships between an uplineand a downline and still that
question comes to me wheresomeone's like I don't know they
said this or, but did they justdo that Because they want to
get money out of me?
Is it just so they can gettheir title, their bonus?
That question is always goingto be in the head of your
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downline and I understand it.
That's why I am like I gotcha,I'm with ya.
One of the other things I loveabout it is being able to come
up with that custom solution forsomebody and then tweak it
however it needs to be tweaked.
It's a fun like I love it.
I love it.
I'd be remiss to not say that Ido have some openings for
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coaching right now.
Ooh, I do.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Post-wedding Roxanne's ready to open back up.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Girl, I am here and I'm.
Are you ready?
Yes, I'm ready, I am ready andI'm super excited because, of
course, just leading into theend of the year and helping
people get to their goals,there's still a lot of time in
the year.
Y'all I think, oh my God,there's a lot of time for a lot
of magic to happen, which youknow what I'll do, so we can put
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this on the show notes of thepodcast episode.
You're listening, but actuallyI'm gonna offer you I do like
consultations.
I don't know if y'all knew thisor not, but I do like 15 minute
consultations just to seebecause, listen, I may not be
the coach for you Gonna tell youthat right now.
You may not be the client for meAgain.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
See the Boom Boom this is the benefit of this is a
two-way street.
This is a two-way interview.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's right, and it's the benefit of like okay,
when someone joins your team,you have them.
They're like okay, they'reyours.
What are you gonna do?
Like it's not like that, Like Imight be the person for you,
you may not be the person for me.
So we can like figure out ifwe're compatible and, if so,
make some magic happen.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
So we'll put the link on there.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, it's a free consult.
Let's figure each other out andsee if we're a good fit, and if
you're not a good fit for me, Ican send you to somewhere else
too.
I'm happy to do that, nopressure.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I love coaching.
I personally am a fan in allaspects of my life.
I always have some sort ofcoach because there's always
someone who's a few steps aheadof you that can help you along
the way.
And I mean, granted, roxanne,you've been in the game for a
long time, so it's not likeyou're just like an upline where
, oh, I've been in this for sixmonths longer than you, you know
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, you see so many differentsides of all the different
companies and you get a muchbigger picture view.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Thank you for that, and I do think I don't talk
about recordentials a lot, but Iwill say the fact that I do see
the corporate side and I meetwith corporate as well for many
companies and I coach on thefield side, as corporate call it
as well too, gives me a uniqueperspective that I don't know
that anyone else really has outthere.
(21:08):
So soak it up, take it from me,I'm here for you.
I agree with you, though.
I love coaching.
I mean I have a personal coach,or trainer as they call them
for like working out, but, likeyou know, have my human design.
It's so important to havecoaches that'll help you along
the way because, like you said,not only are they further along,
but also that's their expertise, and we can't expect to know
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everything about everything.
That's one of the issues, likewith an upline why do we think
our upline should know everypart of a business?
That's that's recoculus is oneof my friends says get it, ooh,
recoculus.
Not ridiculous recoculus, ohyeah.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
It is.
And you guys, I think kind ofputting a bow on this is because
when we first sat down to talkabout this topic, I'm like, oh,
but people want it to be cookiecutter, right, like that's one
of the perks.
But actually I think the perkis that you get to make it your
own and it's okay, and to findthe support to like, find your
strategy for growing yourbusiness is and that's
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empowering.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
That's where the fun comes.
I think Right.
And that's going to get excitedabout what you do and the
impact that you're making inpeople's lives and all the
things.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Right, and that gets you away from the ick of network
marketing.
Right, because it's going to beicky if you do it the way that
you don't feel good with.
But if you find a way that goodfeels good for you, you're
going to show up, you're goingto grow, you're going to get
sales, you're going to get yourteam, like it's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Period Go to Tomorrowland.
Don't feel like you have to goto Adventureland.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
We are not going to Adventureland, so come with us
over to Tomorrowland.
Yeah, I'm in the tunnel, I'mgoing yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I do want to take a trip in the tunnels.
That would be the coolest thing.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That would be really cool.
I didn't know that was a thing,so count me in, I would do it.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yes, you look that whole, but there's a whole like
there's a tunnel systemunderneath Disney World for sure
.
I think this is the coolestthing.
What's going on with youSpeaking of cool things, my
favorite.
So this weekend, you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I was frolicking in this place called Remus,
michigan.
I don't really know where itwas, but there is a music
festival called Wheatland and itwas their 50th anniversary and
we have some family friends thatgo and it's like I'm trying to
describe the kind of music folkmaybe a little hippie-ish, but
(23:35):
not like the dubstep hippie,like the hippie from like
Woodstock, where you're likechilling hanging and arm put
hair hippie yeah.
That one arm hair hippie, youknow everyone was wearing tie
dye.
I made a floral crown.
It was a crown War that webrought the kids.
There was so many like craftsfor the kids and places for the
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kids to hang out so we had ablast with that.
That was kind of our like lastMichigan Hurrah before we go
with you.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
No, he did.
Okay, he worked.
I couldn't imagine frolickingin the woods, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
A lot of us went without our spouses, like my
father-in-law didn't come, mybrother-in-law came because he
likes that I'm just there forthe people, like I was there for
hanging out with my people.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You were there to frolick in the woods.
What I saw on the gram was you,just in case yeah, if you don't
follow Taryn, you should.
What I saw was Taryn literallygoing in circles, maybe singing,
but like going around incircles, kind of like a ring
around the rosy, yes, and youguys both had crowns on and
(24:43):
you're like I'm like okay, she'sfeeling her oats.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And you guys, I was not on drugs, so I need to call
that out Like it wasn't thatkind of festival.
We were just having a good time, high on life and frolicking.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I'm telling you, like if it wasn't kid-friendly, they
all would have been like stillG rated, but they would have all
been naked running around.
But like not a bad way.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I didn't see any nudity Like, but yeah, you're
right, I feel like that could bethe next level to it.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, you know, like those Botticelli babes or
whatever, that had the hair thatwas so long so it covered all
their private parts, but theywere naked running around.
That's what I thought.
I'm like, okay, that's whereshe is, she's just having a good
time.
It was an episode of Charmed.
If you ever watched Charmedback in the day with Prue and
Piper and Phoebe, like there wasone where they have these
nymphs and they're runningaround frolicking in the and
then these bad wizards come andget them.
(25:34):
They throw orbs at them.
But anyway, she was one ofthose nymphs.
Yes, yes, slowly.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
We were, and I am now exhausted from a weekend of
hanging out with people havingfun and we.
I'm on the island right now.
You guys, this is my last day.
This is the last time I'llrecord on the island.
I've got a horse taxi cominglater and we're leaving.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
One last thing I'll say about the nymph and then
we'll come back to this is thatnext time you need to bring a
recorder.
I think you need to be playinga recorder going on the circle
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You guys know I play the flute.
I was first chair flute and Iwas in the marching band.
So Okay, then bring a piccolo,that'd be even better.
Wait, I've got one more thingto say.
Listen to this, guys.
So where we were camping, whenwe woke up like there was a
circle of people playing likethey're fiddle.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Not surprised.
See my points.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
There was fiddle lessons and ukulele sessions.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, you needed to bring that flute and then the
kids could have had the recorderand it would have been perfect.
Maybe a tambourine yeah, maddiecould have had a tambourine
Tambourine.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Harmonica yes.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Just.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Cowbell, it's a little too aggressive.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
We don't need more cowbell there.
Last day on the, on the, Ialmost said the farmer on the
island Are you excited?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, I want out, I need to get out of here, and
then we're going to Michigan forlike five days and then we're
officially moving to Nashville.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
So here we go, everything packed and ready to
go.
No, absolutely not On theisland.
Yes, at home.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
No, but you guys, podcast listeners, guess what
I'm doing on Wednesday tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
She's not frog in the woods, she's not going to a
concert.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Oh, I know what you're doing.
I'm going to the spa.
I'm going to the spa.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
We just take a moment out here, pause.
If you've been a Loyal RocksTalks podcast listener, you know
that a year and a half agoalmost exactly for Taryn's
birthday because she's an Ariesshe got I gave her a spa day
because she's never been to likea real spa.
(27:54):
I want to remind you I said ayear and a half ago almost to
the day, yeah, she was going togo.
Then she got sick and thenthere to go again.
I didn't think she was evergoing to go.
Seriously, I was on somethingthat I'm like, yes, she'll never
go, and then I get a note fromyou saying that you booked it
and I was like, oh, the starshave now aligned.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
My husband's getting me crap because I was like I'm
not going to be home till like 9o'clock.
It's open till 8.
It's about an hour away.
I'm like I will not be back.
He's like what I'm like no, Iwill not and I will not have my
phone on me, so you cannotmessage me.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Jeremy may have spoken in class today, but
you're not coming back till 9.
I love that.
I want to hear all the things Iwill.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I'll fill you in.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, I'm so excited, so good.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
How are you?
You guys are in Boston for aweek.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I think I'll go to Boston.
I think I'll start a new night.
That's a good song, by the way.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It is a good song.
I do know that one.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, it's a sad song , but it's so good.
You don't know me, it was great.
We had a wonderful time, spenttime with my in-laws.
First of all, let me just sayBaylor was a champ.
Baylor is a service dog, so shewas able to fly with us and
people wanted to take pictureswith her.
I'm not kidding, she hadpaparazzi.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You're like she is working.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, the flight attendants were stopping to hang
out with her.
And then we're like what wouldshe like to eat?
I'm like she did not pay forher seat.
She's not eating.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
She is on the clock there will be no lunch.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Exactly what in the world.
She's great though.
So Scott's brother had a LaborDay party and we were there and
his parents didn't know we werecoming and so when they came in,
we were there and we surprisedthem.
It was just really great.
We hung out with themthroughout the week.
We got to see Taylor and Jaxwent up to Jax's school in New
(29:55):
Hampshire and I can't do aBostonian exit I don't even know
why I try and we were stayingon a beach town.
So Salisbury is where we stayedSalisbury, yeah, because they
live in Danvers and Newburyportand all those places and then up
in New Hampshire.
But it was fun.
We worked from there and we'dwalk.
(30:16):
I'm like, let's go.
I'm like I'm going to get icecream.
He's like what?
I'm like I'm going on theirversion of a pier.
Like here in California we havepiers.
They just there wasn't a pier,but it was like everything but a
pier.
Does that make sense?
Oh, ok, Like you've been to apier.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Like a boardwalk.
I have been to a pier.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
We do have a boardwalk, but doesn't a
boardwalk go out into the oceanor no?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
No, a boardwalk is usually like along the area, and
then your pier goes out.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Ok, so they have boardwalk under the boardwalk,
but there was no under.
I don't know so.
But they had, like that area,but you didn't go out.
There was not a pier Like wehave Santa Monica pier.
We have all the piers here.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Navy pier like in Chicago, like that's a, that's a
pier, sure yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
No piers here or there, but we went and got ice
cream and that was fun.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Did you see a sunset or sunrise?
What do you guys like?
The rise, sunrise sunset.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
We like sun.
I've been singing so many songsin this podcast.
Oh my gosh.
Ok, we did not see a sunrise.
We did this weird like sleepingthing, but we weren't on
vacation, so that's probably whyI don't consider vacation for
working.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
So then I've never been on vacation.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Well then, we need to put that on your bucket list,
my dear.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I didn't actually work while I was frolicking in
the forest, though, so that wasa vacation.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
So yeah, it was a really good time, a really good
trip.
And then we're back at it now.
I'm on a seven day cleanse,y'all from Prest.
I went.
I'm like I'll get some juicesit's been a while and they have
a seven day cleanse, like OK.
They said you need to like makesure you stay at home If you're
going to go out, do not take it.
I'm like really, and they saidit was the same stuff that's in
their wellness shop, but it'smilder so you can drink it, and
(32:03):
higher concentrates.
I'm like OK, but I will say dayone it worked.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
So, we haven't had to pause the podcast.
We made sure it worked beforethat.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, I got up like 4 or 3 o'clock and took care of
that thing.
So, all right, I think that iseverything that you need to know
about today.
Oh, I do want to say we had acouple of notes about the
podcast I almost forgot.
First of all, molly reached out.
She listened to the podcastwhere we were trying to change,
(32:37):
change, changes and so shethought it was yeah, she thought
it was David Bowie's.
She said it changes.
But you said, I think on apodcast that hasn't released it,
which is why she hadn't heardit.
That was a different song,right.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
The song I was thinking of was wrong.
It was.
That's just the way it is, ohyeah.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
That some things will never change by Bruce Horn's
being the range.
That's right.
Ok, that I couldn't remember.
I was like, oh, I need to tellher, but I couldn't remember was
.
And then also we got a notefrom Nancy, one of our power
listeners.
By the way, if you send usnotes about the podcast, we're
going to shut you out.
That's how it works.
So she said, hey, love thepodcast on MRR, on the MRR
(33:23):
bullshit that's going on rightnow.
I just feel like it's so slimyand makes network marketing look
bad.
You girls are right.
Right, people don't like, don'tlike hard, and therefore to
hear that they can make like$500 at once is very attractive
to them.
My question is she has aquestion how many of the $500
deals can you actually sellbefore?
(33:43):
After you hit up on your topthree or five people, you'll be
done, and I don't believe thatyou get residual income off of
them Like a team, you don't.
You don't exactly like a team.
So if you sell one of those andthen the person turns around
and sells it to someone else, doyou make anything off those
sales?
No, you don't.
So basically, it's notsustainable.
It's a quick fix.
(34:03):
That's my two, my Nancy's twocents worth.
That was good, nancy.
Yep, correct Yep.
And she also said tell Terrinto message me because she's
moving to.
Nashville and I can help her.
Oh, all right, okay, good yeah,so that was great.
Thank you for reaching out andchatting about that.
(34:25):
We love you, nancy, andappreciate it.
And, molly, thank you for yourvoice message about change.
No, it's not the David Bowie.
She did say Terrin might be tooyoung for that.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
And she was.
I'll listen to it now.
I can let you know we love youguys.
I appreciate you.
Keep rocking your business andif you have any questions that
you want us to answer to, we arehere.
We will do an episode so byeall.
See you later.
(34:56):
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We would love for you to helpus get this message out to other
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(35:20):
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Speaker 1 (35:27):
Always remember you're not ahead, you're not
behind, you're exactly whereyou're supposed to be and we'll
see you next week for anotherepisode of RocksTalks.
Welcome to Rock's Talks, the podcast that helps
network marketers grow theirbusiness on social media.
I'm Roxanne Wilson, socialmedia network marketing coach,
with nearly a decade ofexperience in the space, as well
as television and radioexperience, and a passion to
really help you and empower youto be the best network marketer
you can be, which means knowingyourself and knowing your brand.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I'm Taryn Soa, your social media sidekick.
I run all things behind thescenes at Rock's Talks, While
being the right hand woman toRoxanne, I also strategize and
manage our full social mediaplan.
So I would love to share withyou the tips, the happenings,
(00:50):
all the things going on in thesocial media world.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Each week, we're here to give you the latest and
greatest direct selling, socialselling, network marketing,
whatever you like to call it.
The end game is for you toreally understand your business,
understand yourself and yourbrand and to rock it on social
media.
There's a rumor going on rightnow.
It's a very important rumor,taryn up my heart and it's been
(01:17):
all over the internet.
For those of us who love andthink that it sounds like all
the guys are in one place, likeliterary today they're all in
New York City and the rumor isthat they're going to surprise
everyone at the VMAs.
I haven't watched the MTV VMAsin like decades, but if it turns
out to be true, you know I'llbe watching tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Thought you should know the VMAs are tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, which I think that's a weird night, but again,
I haven't watched it in forever.
So why would I know that?
Tuesday seems weird to me, butmaybe that's what the kids do
these days.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I thought they were always on Sundays, so odd,
interesting.
I literally was just now veryconfused.
I'm like wait, it's Sunday, whyare we working?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yes, so I'm very excited about that because you
know my boys, my men that arenow men and think they've done
it differently.
Lots of people have gotten backtogether and they have like
broke the mold of reunions Greatexample, but actually boys like
they never left each otherright?
Do you know that right now, 98degrees is practicing for their
(02:22):
reunion?
Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, you guys, if you heard the last few episodes
or whenever I said like, justlet it be, you don't need a
reunion- your kids would sayotherwise, but anyhow.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But you know, it's interesting because, like you
think about boy bands andthere's a definite mold for boy
bands.
It's almost cookie cutter,right.
There's a formula for boy bands, and you have to ask yourself
is that the only way to do it?
No, has anyone really done itdifferently, though?
Is there a boy band out therethat has broke the mold?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And has been successful?
I mean, I feel like you're theone to know the answer to that.
It's definitely not me.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I am and I would say, not yet, folks, not yet.
However, that doesn't fit themold in everything.
Okay, because listen, you thinkabout like music in general.
I think we could say thatTaylor Swift has broken the mold
.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
She's a projector.
Did you know that?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I didn't Adele's a manifestor.
Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
No, there's a funny thing going on.
Only Adele can, like, take anine year sabbatical, come in
for like nine months, do a songand then leave again for nine
years, and whoever posted thatabout her doesn't know.
She wasn't a bad manifestor,I'm like she's a manifestor,
that's why.
But yeah, she's a manifestor,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, taylor Swift breaking the mold.
Yeah, I'm on for that.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Don't you think she has how she has, like she's in a
lot of ways, not just the waysof her owning her own shiz and
redoing her own music, but moldbreaking.
I would like to think we'regoing into a place, into an era,
where everything does not haveto be cookie cutter to be
successful.
(04:07):
I think we're going there.
Don't you think, like you don'thave to be cookie cutter to be
successful?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Oh, 100%, which leads me to direct selling.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Okay, which is the quintessential cookie cutter
mold.
Put in a mold bake, put in theoven.
You come out and you all looklike stepford wives.
Business in a box, business ina box.
Is there another way?
1000%.
(04:36):
And if there is another way,can you be successful at that
other way?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So yes, also, I think it takes a pretty strong
mindset to do it a different way.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
No offense to anyone else, but it probably takes a
manifesto the other way.
Here's why I say that Becauseif you know human design, the
reason I say that is because youhave so much pressure.
You have so much pressureencouraging you to go the way
that everybody else has gone.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I think that's the selling point of coming into
direct sales.
We already have the formula,you just follow it.
That's it Sounds easy, doesn'tit?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
That sounds like leave your brain at the door,
doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And I guess in some ways that's refreshing.
I don't have to think I canjust do this and make money
awesome.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yes, especially if you're coming from it like it's
a side hustle and then somethingyou want to grow pretty quickly
.
It's like, yeah, I don't wantto think about it, I just want
to get my feet in and go.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
This reminds me of myself as we're thinking,
because when I joined, Idefinitely was in a space
transitioning jobs and thingswhere I didn't want to think and
it was like, okay, this issomething that I can do while
I'm figuring out where I want togo with my career.
I can do this, I don't have tothink.
I literally was like I don'thave to think and I said, all
right, I will give it.
I think I said three months,maybe I don't know, but I'm like
(06:06):
I will give it probably moretime than that, but I will do
exactly.
I'll be coachable.
As I say, I'll do exactly whatyou say to do and see where it
gets me.
And I got my.
I mean, listen, I was.
I earned a trip to Banff withinminutes.
Basically, I earned myinvestment back.
I got a $1,000 bonus within thefirst month.
(06:29):
So I hear that.
But I also raved against themachine.
I could only play along for solong and then I was like my
brain has to be here.
I have to.
I cannot just and not not.
I don't want to say like.
When I say my brain, I meanthinking for myself has to
become a part of this, like now.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Was it because you were reaching a plateau or no?
Like what was it?
You just kind of knew, like hmm.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I knew there was a better way.
It's almost like if you aresitting there and think about
this, like you're like in agroup of people and they're like
, okay, we are going to go,we're at Disneyland I don't know
, I've been in the ages, I'vebeen in Disneyland and we're
going to get to the actual MagicKingdom.
And you're at the front gateand they're telling you, okay,
go this way.
And the way they give you islike around, like Adventureland
(07:24):
and all these ways.
But you're like I can just godirectly straight.
Yes, I could get there that way.
But why would I want to do thatwhen I know in my heart of
hearts I can go this way?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
and get to where I want to go.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And that's what it was for me.
I'm like why am I doing allthese things that are
unnecessary?
One for me, this will workbetter.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
For you.
Well, someone else might thinkthat that's the wrong way.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, and I think part of it was well too is like
why do we all have to go thesame way?
In my head, I'm like why do weall have to go the same way?
If I would prefer to see these,I want to.
Let's say, I want to go throughTomorrowland.
Why can't I go throughTomorrowland?
Why do I have to go back toAdventureland to get there?
And I think the problem is thatwe don't celebrate that enough
(08:12):
in direct selling, if you,because I'll tell you right now
when I started to go, I'm goingto go this way.
So the people that were aroundmy level whatever you want to
call it and they or below,they're like oh yeah, this
sounds great.
People who were like mayberight where I was or above, were
(08:33):
very bothered by the fact thatI wanted to do it a different
way.
Only a few innovators were likeyou're right, let's go this way.
But it bothered them because Iwas doing something that wasn't
the norm, that wasn't the wasn'tthe cookie cutter.
Now some people would say toyou, that's because it's not
duplicatable.
But that's not the case.
They didn't take enough time tosee if it was duplicatable,
they just didn't like goinganother route.
(08:53):
So then you go this other routeand you get there faster, and
then that bothers people too.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Oh yeah, so what's the answer?
Where are we going with this, Iguess?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
let's come out of Disneyland for a while and come
back to reality.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I think the thing is, I was having fun at Disney.
Land.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I know I kind of was like oh, I need to go.
Yeah, I think the thing is thislike we're going back to
Disneyland, Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, got my ticket.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
You know Disneyland has this whole thing in Disney
World.
Disney is this thing where ifyou work, if you get on calling
an employee, you're a character,right, they ever call everyone
characters and if you were acharacter in Tomorrowland, like
that's like the space, likeFutureland, basically you're not
allowed to be seen inAdventureland.
(09:41):
Is it Adventureland?
Did I keep them called foranything?
I think it's Adventureland, theone that you said last.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Now I've never been to.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Disneyland, but you've been to Disney World.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, disney World.
Okay, then they're the same.
Then, yeah, there's anAdventureland.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, magic Kingdom, basically, is the same as
Disneyland, so like you're notallowed to be seen in
Adventureland, which is likeHuck Finn and all those, because
someone from the future wouldnever be in the past.
That's why they have tunnels,because they never want to
confuse kids.
And you are in this section.
(10:12):
You should never be in thatsection.
It's a little like and yeah,and so where am I going with
this?
You're like, okay, and yourpoint is this If I am sitting
there at the front of Disneylandand my guide is telling me to
go to Adventureland, to get toMagic Kingdom, but the truth of
(10:33):
the matter and I mean thecastles, what I say, magic
Kingdom is the castle, right,but the truth of the matter is I
am not meant for Adventureland,I'm actually meant for
Tomorrowland.
It's not going to work for me,I'm not welcome in that land,
you get me.
So let me bring this back to ifyou're being taught oh, here's
(10:53):
a good example If you're beingtaught that the only that, the
way from your upline or whomever, that the way to run your
business and be successful is todo what she did, and what she
did is she did a text messagingsystem and she did Facebook ads.
This is a real world exampleFacebook ads that led to text
messages and then you send outtext messages for 60 days and
(11:16):
you are someone who really donot like to do Facebook or you
really don't like texting, butyou feel like you have to do
that because she says to do it.
You are not going to besuccessful, even if you do
exactly what she does.
You're not going to besuccessful because A it doesn't
feel right to you, so yourenergy is not going to be there.
It's going to fall flat.
(11:37):
You're not going to besuccessful because there's
probably a reason it doesn'tfeel right for you.
Your gut, your intuition istelling you.
Maybe you know that youraudience, they don't do texting.
Maybe that's what it is, butthere's something that you're
ignoring.
So you could spend time, youcould spend money, you could
spend all the things trying tobe in Adventureland, but if
(11:58):
you're really meant to be inTomorrowland, it ain't going to
work.
It's never going to work, andthe thing about it is indirect
selling.
We so want to be like Mike.
If I could be like Mike, I wantto be, I want to be, I want to
be like Mike.
Do you remember that song?
No no, don't know that one, itwas a commercial If the kid
(12:21):
wanted to be like Michael Jordanand there's a whole song if I
could be like Mike, like Mike,okay, my husband might know that
one.
Yeah yeah, you are a youngster,that's true.
The thing is, if we spend allthis time trying to be like
someone else, we are actuallynegating ourselves.
And it could.
It might sound cliche, I don'tcare, but you are the best you,
(12:47):
y'all you can only be the bestyou.
I cannot be a great Terran.
I cannot frolic in the woodslike Terran was on her Instagram
stories.
Did y'all see that?
It was like an infinite fairyall rolled into one.
I can't do that.
I mean, I have good hair for it, but beyond that, I do.
Right, she had a flower crown,y'all she was doing that.
(13:12):
She made again.
See, I rest my case.
I could not be a great Terran.
I would be a, a, a.
I would be a poor imitation ofTerran.
You'd be like what is that?
Bring me the, bring me theactual Terran.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I want the real deal yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Terran duplicate.
We have to realize that even ina company and even in a
business and even in industrywhere, yes, there's certain
things and skills that you cando over and over again
repetition we have to be able toput on our own flair and
celebrate that.
And here's what happens.
When someone tries to go dotheir own thing, what happens is
(13:49):
people go oh yeah, it's notgoing to be successful for you,
or you didn't hit this, this,you haven't hit this mouse on
yet because you did it your ownway.
Maybe it just takes a differentamount of time.
And who's to say that if youdid it the way everyone else did
, that you would get there,because I got news for you, baby
girl.
You wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I mean, I think about when I joined a more recent
company.
The advice was okay, now reachout to all your family and
friends.
And I'm like, oh gosh, I reallythought this advice was dead.
But that advice might work forsomeone else.
It is not going to work for me,and I knew it wasn't going to
work for me, so I didn't evenbother with it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Do you know how many people I know that come in there
.
I don't want to do that.
I don't want to reach out toeveryone, but then they feel
like they have to because theydo it anyways and look like
spammy Tammy and and it comesand they feel weird about it,
but then they're like, oh but,or they're not willing to accept
that.
If you're not going to do itthat way, it might take you
(14:49):
longer, and that is okay.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That one's a hard pill to swallow because it's
like you know, when you arecoming into direct sales you
don't want it to take long, likeyou do want to see some wins in
the beginning.
So it's like how do you getyour footing right away to find
what works for you?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
You know.
So I coach a lot of networkmarketers as you know this,
taryn and it can be a constantstruggle for them, like they'll
come to me and say I don't wantto do that, I don't want to do
other reachouts.
I'm like great, now you have toremember that.
You have to write that down.
I tell them, like if that's howyou really feel, that is great.
We will set up a system for youthat works for you.
(15:27):
But you have to understand thatyou are going to feel the
pressure.
The natural current is going tobe pulling you the other way.
You're going to hear people in,like your little power hours or
your sessions where everybodymeets together and you listen to
these.
They're going to tell you thesestories of how they were
successful and it's going to bedifferent from what you said.
And when they look to you andyou may not be as far along as
(15:50):
they want you to be or you wantto be, they're going to say,
well, did you do your reachouts,did you reach out to?
And you're going to feel likeyou're not where you want to be
because you didn't do it the waythat you already said.
You didn't want to do it thatway, and it's a constant.
I have to reframe.
I'm like I'm just telling youthis now and I'm going to let
you know.
I'm going to remind you of thisbecause you're going to come
(16:13):
back and go.
Ah, I wonder, or you're goingto start doing those things and
you've got to remember that.
That's not, that that's not.
You didn't want that in thefirst place.
Mm, hmm, mm, hmm.
Constant battle and struggle.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Constant.
I mean, I felt it and I'm like,oh, this is, maybe I should
even any question yourself, butyou need to trust yourself in
this business.
This is still your business,even though it does come with a
cookie cutter option, you canstill trust yourself and you do
your own cookies.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yes, you can, but here's the here's.
What I love about coaching is Idon't have a dog in the fight.
I don't actually makecommission off of your sales,
yeah.
So if you come to me and yousay my goal is I want to recruit
or I want to, whatever yourgoal is, I'm here to help you
(17:08):
get to that goal without havingthat, oh my gosh.
Yeah, she says she wants torecruit, but if she sells 85
more things this week, I get agreat commission, I get a bonus
or I get a trip.
That didn't happen, yeah.
So it's literally like that'swhat I love about coaching is
like I want to see you succeedon how you define success, and I
(17:31):
am not personally benefitingfrom your activities except for
just feeling good and excitedfor you.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I think that's a really good call out and that's
where more confusion can come in, because you're applying,
they're also in business forthemselves, right?
So they're going to have a biasof what they're coaching you on
, because then they benefit 100%necessarily bad.
I'm not calling anyone out.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
It just is the way that the system is built right,
and you're so right about thatand I hear that there.
But there always comes a timein that relationship where, even
with the most supportive upline, there are seeds of doubt and
distrust from their downline,because the downline knows you
make money off of me.
(18:17):
I have seen some of the mostwhat I would call the healthiest
relationships between an uplineand a downline and still that
question comes to me wheresomeone's like I don't know they
said this or, but did they justdo that Because they want to
get money out of me?
Is it just so they can gettheir title, their bonus?
That question is always goingto be in the head of your
(18:38):
downline and I understand it.
That's why I am like I gotcha,I'm with ya.
One of the other things I loveabout it is being able to come
up with that custom solution forsomebody and then tweak it
however it needs to be tweaked.
It's a fun like I love it.
I love it.
I'd be remiss to not say that Ido have some openings for
(18:59):
coaching right now.
Ooh, I do.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Post-wedding Roxanne's ready to open back up.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Girl, I am here and I'm.
Are you ready?
Yes, I'm ready, I am ready andI'm super excited because, of
course, just leading into theend of the year and helping
people get to their goals,there's still a lot of time in
the year.
Y'all I think, oh my God,there's a lot of time for a lot
of magic to happen, which youknow what I'll do, so we can put
(19:26):
this on the show notes of thepodcast episode.
You're listening, but actuallyI'm gonna offer you I do like
consultations.
I don't know if y'all knew thisor not, but I do like 15 minute
consultations just to seebecause, listen, I may not be
the coach for you Gonna tell youthat right now.
You may not be the client for meAgain.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
See the Boom Boom this is the benefit of this is a
two-way street.
This is a two-way interview.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's right, and it's the benefit of like okay,
when someone joins your team,you have them.
They're like okay, they'reyours.
What are you gonna do?
Like it's not like that, Like Imight be the person for you,
you may not be the person for me.
So we can like figure out ifwe're compatible and, if so,
make some magic happen.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
So we'll put the link on there.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, it's a free consult.
Let's figure each other out andsee if we're a good fit, and if
you're not a good fit for me, Ican send you to somewhere else
too.
I'm happy to do that, nopressure.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I love coaching.
I personally am a fan in allaspects of my life.
I always have some sort ofcoach because there's always
someone who's a few steps aheadof you that can help you along
the way.
And I mean, granted, roxanne,you've been in the game for a
long time, so it's not likeyou're just like an upline where
, oh, I've been in this for sixmonths longer than you, you know
(20:39):
, you see so many differentsides of all the different
companies and you get a muchbigger picture view.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Thank you for that, and I do think I don't talk
about recordentials a lot, but Iwill say the fact that I do see
the corporate side and I meetwith corporate as well for many
companies and I coach on thefield side, as corporate call it
as well too, gives me a uniqueperspective that I don't know
that anyone else really has outthere.
(21:08):
So soak it up, take it from me,I'm here for you.
I agree with you, though.
I love coaching.
I mean I have a personal coach,or trainer as they call them
for like working out, but, likeyou know, have my human design.
It's so important to havecoaches that'll help you along
the way because, like you said,not only are they further along,
but also that's their expertise, and we can't expect to know
(21:31):
everything about everything.
That's one of the issues, likewith an upline why do we think
our upline should know everypart of a business?
That's that's recoculus is oneof my friends says get it, ooh,
recoculus.
Not ridiculous recoculus, ohyeah.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
It is.
And you guys, I think kind ofputting a bow on this is because
when we first sat down to talkabout this topic, I'm like, oh,
but people want it to be cookiecutter, right, like that's one
of the perks.
But actually I think the perkis that you get to make it your
own and it's okay, and to findthe support to like, find your
strategy for growing yourbusiness is and that's
(22:11):
empowering.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
That's where the fun comes.
I think Right.
And that's going to get excitedabout what you do and the
impact that you're making inpeople's lives and all the
things.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Right, and that gets you away from the ick of network
marketing.
Right, because it's going to beicky if you do it the way that
you don't feel good with.
But if you find a way that goodfeels good for you, you're
going to show up, you're goingto grow, you're going to get
sales, you're going to get yourteam, like it's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Period Go to Tomorrowland.
Don't feel like you have to goto Adventureland.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
We are not going to Adventureland, so come with us
over to Tomorrowland.
Yeah, I'm in the tunnel, I'mgoing yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I do want to take a trip in the tunnels.
That would be the coolest thing.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That would be really cool.
I didn't know that was a thing,so count me in, I would do it.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yes, you look that whole, but there's a whole like
there's a tunnel systemunderneath Disney World for sure
.
I think this is the coolestthing.
What's going on with youSpeaking of cool things, my
favorite.
So this weekend, you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I was frolicking in this place called Remus,
michigan.
I don't really know where itwas, but there is a music
festival called Wheatland and itwas their 50th anniversary and
we have some family friends thatgo and it's like I'm trying to
describe the kind of music folkmaybe a little hippie-ish, but
(23:35):
not like the dubstep hippie,like the hippie from like
Woodstock, where you're likechilling hanging and arm put
hair hippie yeah.
That one arm hair hippie, youknow everyone was wearing tie
dye.
I made a floral crown.
It was a crown War that webrought the kids.
There was so many like craftsfor the kids and places for the
(23:57):
kids to hang out so we had ablast with that.
That was kind of our like lastMichigan Hurrah before we go
with you.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
No, he did.
Okay, he worked.
I couldn't imagine frolickingin the woods, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
A lot of us went without our spouses, like my
father-in-law didn't come, mybrother-in-law came because he
likes that I'm just there forthe people, like I was there for
hanging out with my people.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You were there to frolick in the woods.
What I saw on the gram was you,just in case yeah, if you don't
follow Taryn, you should.
What I saw was Taryn literallygoing in circles, maybe singing,
but like going around incircles, kind of like a ring
around the rosy, yes, and youguys both had crowns on and
(24:43):
you're like I'm like okay, she'sfeeling her oats.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And you guys, I was not on drugs, so I need to call
that out Like it wasn't thatkind of festival.
We were just having a good time, high on life and frolicking.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I'm telling you, like if it wasn't kid-friendly, they
all would have been like stillG rated, but they would have all
been naked running around.
But like not a bad way.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I didn't see any nudity Like, but yeah, you're
right, I feel like that could bethe next level to it.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, you know, like those Botticelli babes or
whatever, that had the hair thatwas so long so it covered all
their private parts, but theywere naked running around.
That's what I thought.
I'm like, okay, that's whereshe is, she's just having a good
time.
It was an episode of Charmed.
If you ever watched Charmedback in the day with Prue and
Piper and Phoebe, like there wasone where they have these
nymphs and they're runningaround frolicking in the and
then these bad wizards come andget them.
(25:34):
They throw orbs at them.
But anyway, she was one ofthose nymphs.
Yes, yes, slowly.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
We were, and I am now exhausted from a weekend of
hanging out with people havingfun and we.
I'm on the island right now.
You guys, this is my last day.
This is the last time I'llrecord on the island.
I've got a horse taxi cominglater and we're leaving.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
One last thing I'll say about the nymph and then
we'll come back to this is thatnext time you need to bring a
recorder.
I think you need to be playinga recorder going on the circle
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You guys know I play the flute.
I was first chair flute and Iwas in the marching band.
So Okay, then bring a piccolo,that'd be even better.
Wait, I've got one more thingto say.
Listen to this, guys.
So where we were camping, whenwe woke up like there was a
circle of people playing likethey're fiddle.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Not surprised.
See my points.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
There was fiddle lessons and ukulele sessions.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, you needed to bring that flute and then the
kids could have had the recorderand it would have been perfect.
Maybe a tambourine yeah, maddiecould have had a tambourine
Tambourine.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Harmonica yes.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Just.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Cowbell, it's a little too aggressive.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
We don't need more cowbell there.
Last day on the, on the, Ialmost said the farmer on the
island Are you excited?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, I want out, I need to get out of here, and
then we're going to Michigan forlike five days and then we're
officially moving to Nashville.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
So here we go, everything packed and ready to
go.
No, absolutely not On theisland.
Yes, at home.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
No, but you guys, podcast listeners, guess what
I'm doing on Wednesday tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
She's not frog in the woods, she's not going to a
concert.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Oh, I know what you're doing.
I'm going to the spa.
I'm going to the spa.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
We just take a moment out here, pause.
If you've been a Loyal RocksTalks podcast listener, you know
that a year and a half agoalmost exactly for Taryn's
birthday because she's an Ariesshe got I gave her a spa day
because she's never been to likea real spa.
(27:54):
I want to remind you I said ayear and a half ago almost to
the day, yeah, she was going togo.
Then she got sick and thenthere to go again.
I didn't think she was evergoing to go.
Seriously, I was on somethingthat I'm like, yes, she'll never
go, and then I get a note fromyou saying that you booked it
and I was like, oh, the starshave now aligned.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
My husband's getting me crap because I was like I'm
not going to be home till like 9o'clock.
It's open till 8.
It's about an hour away.
I'm like I will not be back.
He's like what I'm like no, Iwill not and I will not have my
phone on me, so you cannotmessage me.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Jeremy may have spoken in class today, but
you're not coming back till 9.
I love that.
I want to hear all the things Iwill.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I'll fill you in.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, I'm so excited, so good.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
How are you?
You guys are in Boston for aweek.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I think I'll go to Boston.
I think I'll start a new night.
That's a good song, by the way.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It is a good song.
I do know that one.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, it's a sad song , but it's so good.
You don't know me, it was great.
We had a wonderful time, spenttime with my in-laws.
First of all, let me just sayBaylor was a champ.
Baylor is a service dog, so shewas able to fly with us and
people wanted to take pictureswith her.
I'm not kidding, she hadpaparazzi.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You're like she is working.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, the flight attendants were stopping to hang
out with her.
And then we're like what wouldshe like to eat?
I'm like she did not pay forher seat.
She's not eating.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
She is on the clock there will be no lunch.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Exactly what in the world.
She's great though.
So Scott's brother had a LaborDay party and we were there and
his parents didn't know we werecoming and so when they came in,
we were there and we surprisedthem.
It was just really great.
We hung out with themthroughout the week.
We got to see Taylor and Jaxwent up to Jax's school in New
(29:55):
Hampshire and I can't do aBostonian exit I don't even know
why I try and we were stayingon a beach town.
So Salisbury is where we stayedSalisbury, yeah, because they
live in Danvers and Newburyportand all those places and then up
in New Hampshire.
But it was fun.
We worked from there and we'dwalk.
(30:16):
I'm like, let's go.
I'm like I'm going to get icecream.
He's like what?
I'm like I'm going on theirversion of a pier.
Like here in California we havepiers.
They just there wasn't a pier,but it was like everything but a
pier.
Does that make sense?
Oh, ok, Like you've been to apier.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Like a boardwalk.
I have been to a pier.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
We do have a boardwalk, but doesn't a
boardwalk go out into the oceanor no?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
No, a boardwalk is usually like along the area, and
then your pier goes out.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Ok, so they have boardwalk under the boardwalk,
but there was no under.
I don't know so.
But they had, like that area,but you didn't go out.
There was not a pier Like wehave Santa Monica pier.
We have all the piers here.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Navy pier like in Chicago, like that's a, that's a
pier, sure yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
No piers here or there, but we went and got ice
cream and that was fun.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Did you see a sunset or sunrise?
What do you guys like?
The rise, sunrise sunset.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
We like sun.
I've been singing so many songsin this podcast.
Oh my gosh.
Ok, we did not see a sunrise.
We did this weird like sleepingthing, but we weren't on
vacation, so that's probably whyI don't consider vacation for
working.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
So then I've never been on vacation.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Well then, we need to put that on your bucket list,
my dear.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I didn't actually work while I was frolicking in
the forest, though, so that wasa vacation.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
So yeah, it was a really good time, a really good
trip.
And then we're back at it now.
I'm on a seven day cleanse,y'all from Prest.
I went.
I'm like I'll get some juicesit's been a while and they have
a seven day cleanse, like OK.
They said you need to like makesure you stay at home If you're
going to go out, do not take it.
I'm like really, and they saidit was the same stuff that's in
their wellness shop, but it'smilder so you can drink it, and
(32:03):
higher concentrates.
I'm like OK, but I will say dayone it worked.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
So, we haven't had to pause the podcast.
We made sure it worked beforethat.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, I got up like 4 or 3 o'clock and took care of
that thing.
So, all right, I think that iseverything that you need to know
about today.
Oh, I do want to say we had acouple of notes about the
podcast I almost forgot.
First of all, molly reached out.
She listened to the podcastwhere we were trying to change,
(32:37):
change, changes and so shethought it was yeah, she thought
it was David Bowie's.
She said it changes.
But you said, I think on apodcast that hasn't released it,
which is why she hadn't heardit.
That was a different song,right.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
The song I was thinking of was wrong.
It was.
That's just the way it is, ohyeah.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
That some things will never change by Bruce Horn's
being the range.
That's right.
Ok, that I couldn't remember.
I was like, oh, I need to tellher, but I couldn't remember was
.
And then also we got a notefrom Nancy, one of our power
listeners.
By the way, if you send usnotes about the podcast, we're
going to shut you out.
That's how it works.
So she said, hey, love thepodcast on MRR, on the MRR
(33:23):
bullshit that's going on rightnow.
I just feel like it's so slimyand makes network marketing look
bad.
You girls are right.
Right, people don't like, don'tlike hard, and therefore to
hear that they can make like$500 at once is very attractive
to them.
My question is she has aquestion how many of the $500
deals can you actually sellbefore?
(33:43):
After you hit up on your topthree or five people, you'll be
done, and I don't believe thatyou get residual income off of
them Like a team, you don't.
You don't exactly like a team.
So if you sell one of those andthen the person turns around
and sells it to someone else, doyou make anything off those
sales?
No, you don't.
So basically, it's notsustainable.
It's a quick fix.
(34:03):
That's my two, my Nancy's twocents worth.
That was good, nancy.
Yep, correct Yep.
And she also said tell Terrinto message me because she's
moving to.
Nashville and I can help her.
Oh, all right, okay, good yeah,so that was great.
Thank you for reaching out andchatting about that.
(34:25):
We love you, nancy, andappreciate it.
And, molly, thank you for yourvoice message about change.
No, it's not the David Bowie.
She did say Terrin might be tooyoung for that.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
And she was.
I'll listen to it now.
I can let you know we love youguys.
I appreciate you.
Keep rocking your business andif you have any questions that
you want us to answer to, we arehere.
We will do an episode so byeall.
See you later.
(34:56):
Thanks for listening to anotherepisode of Rock Talks.
We would love for you to helpus get this message out to other
network marketers.
If you could follow rate reviewwherever you are listening to
this episode, we would greatlyappreciate it.
And hey, if this episode speaksto you directly, take a
(35:20):
screenshot of you listening onyour device and post it on
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Be sure to tag us over atRocksTalks.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Always remember you're not ahead, you're not
behind, you're exactly whereyou're supposed to be and we'll
see you next week for anotherepisode of RocksTalks.
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