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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to Rock's
Talks, the podcast that helps
network marketers grow theirbusiness on social media.
I'm Roxanne Wilson, socialmedia network marketing coach,
with nearly a decade ofexperience in the space, as well
as television and radioexperience, and a passion to
really help you and empower youto be the best network marketer
you can be, which means knowingyourself and knowing your brand.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I'm Taryn Soa,
your social media sidekick.
I run all things behind thescenes at Rock's Talks, While
being the right hand woman toRoxanne, I also strategize and
manage our full social mediaplan.
So I would love to share withyou the tips, the happenings,
(00:50):
all the things going on in thesocial media world.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Each week, we're here
to give you the latest and
greatest direct selling, socialselling, network marketing,
whatever you like to call it.
The end game is for you toreally understand your business,
understand yourself and yourbrand, and to rock it on social
media.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Roxanne.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Tear bear, tearing up
my heart.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You left us on a
cliffhanger last week and I'm
sorry.
I'm going behind the scenesbefore we even jump into this
episode because, guys, theepisode is going to be good and
juicy, but you're moving.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I'm moving, you're
moving, you're moving, you're
moving, you're moving, we aremoving.
We are going westward.
Ho, is it?
No wait, where's west, as wecan be.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You're going east,
you're moving into the ocean,
wow.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh, the island.
Okay, so we are.
We've made the decision to moveto Arizona.
Now I wanted to say California,I love you, Orange County.
You've been great, we love ithere.
But it just makes sense, as wego into the new chapter of our
family and our life, to go aheadand move to Arizona.
My family lives there PSN, bythe way and I was surprised.
(02:07):
Scott was the one who was likewe need to move to Arizona.
I was like what he lived therefor?
He lived there before.
We met for 10 years when I wasoff galvanizing in Texas, and
then we met in Austin and nowwe're both.
He loved it there, we love ithere.
But we're going to move into ahouse, Yay, and so I'm
(02:28):
decorating and, yeah, that'sgoing to be great.
We're excited.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Oh my gosh.
So what's your timeline Like?
What's this looking like?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Next year We'll be
moving next year.
So stay tuned, it will be earlynext year We'll be moving,
since this has been a little bitwild right now, I'll be honest.
I'm candid because I am withy'all we are.
When you're listening to this,I'm probably not in California.
I am in Boston because justhealth reasons for family
(03:03):
members.
So we're getting on a plane.
We decided two days ago we gotto get home or get Scott's from
Boston.
So we are there and then we dida one-way ticket.
Don't know when we're comingback.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, wow.
Well, and that's I mean becausehe's working from home now, so
it's not like you have tonavigate too many schedules, you
can just go and work there.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Right.
So we're going to go then workthere, and so we're kind of like
this is going to be interestingnext few months because we'll
be there being there for family,and then we'll kind of see when
we Come back.
And then we got a pink and I'vebeen trying to sell some things
and Do all the things and it'sjust it's a season of change in
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a big way.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Mm-hmm, I'm passing
it off to you because I'm I went
through my season of change.
We are settled, settled yourturn.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You're so
domesticated, my turn.
But I am really excited aboutwhat we're doing.
Like the house I was, we, weused Haven Lee, y'all, and if
you need my referral code I cansend it to you.
But it's an interior designcompany and what they do is that
they can do it Virtually, whichis really cool.
You send them specs and likethey were literally like I have
(04:17):
a 3d.
Have I shown you the 3d of myroom?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Oh, I haven't seen
that, no, but I know you were
like getting it yeah you shouldnot put up with me, how dare I?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I will send it to you
.
But what's really exciting isthey were able to just capture
what we wanted, and I don't knowhow to describe what I wanted,
necessarily, but as they'reasking me questions, I realized
I'm like I want to barefootdreams home, yeah, and so.
And so the room.
We start with the bed expensive.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Is this barefoot
dreams?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
room.
We're gonna do one room at atime and we're not gonna worry
about, like, how long it takes,we just want to get it right.
You know so that we love it,because we know that beyond this
we're not gonna move Againbecause it's the Bahamas, right,
so it'll be here in the Bahamas.
That's the plan stand.
So I'll send you this pictureand you can look at it and you
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can love it.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I can love it.
Got it, okay, love it, so onlyexception allowed.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You have one job,
tear bear.
It is to love.
No, I think you're gonna loveit.
Let me where you sending it,should I?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
look right now.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Let me, I gotta get
the picture first, okay, but yes
, then you can look at it I.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Just got a picture
picture for my dad.
Right now he's wearing hisHalloween sweater my dad's
birthday today.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Happy birthday to
your dad, jeffrey.
A lot of you know Jeffrey,because he usually calls during
my my sessions.
Yeah, that hasn't beenhappening.
Is it because?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
we have been doing
them earlier, I think, although
I talked to him before we got on.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
You have 5 30.
I called him and he's likewalks on.
What's wrong?
I said, dad, I can't call youin the morning.
It's like I have 15 moreminutes on the treadmill and he
does treadmill twice a day.
Yes, he does Twice a day, twicea day.
My daddy does to stay Fit, andall the while did you find the
picture?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh there, it is Okay.
Here, here we go.
Stop it, stop it.
That's gonna be your roombeautiful Y'all.
It's like so wait, I thoughtyou didn't like arches, because
that mirror is arched and I havebeen looking for that exact
mirror, so please send me thatlink.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I will send you that
link.
It's okay, just to think you,like you always say, like big
art, like see how that's asubtle arch.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It is more subtle.
Yeah, and that's what I waslooking for for our room.
I wanted a more subtle.
I didn't want, like a full arch.
I'll send it to you, um, butI'm on a freeze where we can't
buy anything.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I'll send you the
link, don't you worry.
So the room is like verybarefoot, dreamzy.
It's a mixture of like Should,two things like a gray theme and
like a cozy theme.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I don't even want to
describe it, it's just it's like
natural woods and just likekind of natural colors.
White, beige there's a littleall in there.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
There's a fandelier
in there.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That's what that is
oh Lear from the fandal, fandal,
oh God.
And are you gonna have afireplace in your room?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yes, we're getting up
.
We're gonna put a fireplace inthere.
Sweet good I, missy Good I.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
All right, you guys,
we need to get to the juice of
the episode.
Oh, I thought that was thejuice, more juice.
You said you had some drama tobring up.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
There's so much drama
going on in the world of
network marketing and I'm notgonna name names and do any of
that nonsense.
But what I will say is this One, how dare I not give you the
names and stuff before the set?
We should have like offlineTerrence so you knew who we're
talking.
That was okay.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I'll start.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I'll start guessing.
Yeah, so one thing that's beengoing on for a bit, which is,
you know, my dad was always likerock son, you don't like
worship celebrities or worship,like you know, people getting
his worship.
I mean, let's face it, theSwifties probably worship them
some.
Taylor, that's a good example,right?
(08:16):
Yes, yes and he's always likethey're just people, one of the
things, and you don't realizewhat is ingrained in you until
you are an adult and you're like, oh, that thing is still
ingrained in me and my dad's notthere saying it, and I know I
love to watch reality, evenstuff, but I don't worship them.
Okay, although I did want tomarry JC Chassey, but that was
like we were on the same levelfrom then sink, it wasn't like.
(08:38):
Anyhow, I digress, here's thething there's a lot of
worshiping in network marketing,mm-hmm like there's a lot of
people.
Yes, yes, you can see thatthere's a lot of worshiping as
the top people and people startto idolize them and some of them
we do tend to get an aghadacomplex.
That can go a little bit wacky.
Do I always tell people this Go, you and the person who's at
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the top aren't.
I'm echoing hold, please, notto me, but but I can hear it.
Okay, that's better.
You and the person at the topare no different.
It just means that this wastheir prom and it's not your
prom.
I've ever told you my favoriteabout their, about prom?
No, I had this theory that cameto me and this is a phrase that
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I have.
So have you ever noticed thatthere's some people who,
literally, literally, when theywere in high school, were like
prom queen or prom king?
They were captain of thecheerleading team and they
looked amazing.
I yes, that was their problemand that was actually the best
they will ever be, and the bestlike experience they'll ever
(09:44):
have was literally that yes, yes, because then when we all move
on, yes.
But they don't.
Yes, they go downhill.
It's just called what it is.
In when I was in my 20s, I hadthis phrase this is not my prom.
Five words, okay.
Because when I'd be in a moment, even like an exciting moment,
like when I was on the prenyasand I was like, oh, national TV
(10:05):
and people were recognizing meanywhere, everywhere, I was like
is this your prom, roxanne?
No, this is not my prom.
There's more greatness for meto go towards.
If you see someone who's attheir tippy top and they're
doing all the things, this meansthat that's their prom.
It's not your prom and that isokay.
Everyone can be prom queen, butyou can't be prom queen of the
(10:26):
same thing.
It doesn't mean they're betterthan you, it just means that
situation.
It doesn't mean that they havefigured out the key.
It does not mean that the waythey did it was the way to do it
, or that they're smarter thanyou or more intelligent than you
or better than you.
They're not better than you.
We forget that.
I sit here on my hands, which ishard for me to keep my mouth
(10:47):
shut.
It is.
It's not in my human design tokeep my mouth shut, but I do
when I see and I observe, orwhen you come to me and you're
talking about this person orthat person and how wonderful
they are.
They said to do this.
I'm like, oh my gosh, becauseit is what you choose to do and
that is fine with your energy.
But what is so interesting iswhen those people you were
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worshiping show their truecolors, like, for example, get
caught up in a Ponzi scheme andsteal a bunch of money from a
bunch of y'all, or, for example,decide to create their own
company and try and steal tradesecrets or whatever, and totally
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underhandedly take up the team.
Now, I'm not speaking out ofanyone specifically.
I did not name any names.
I gave examples, so don't comefor me.
But my point is part of theissue is we hand them that power
?
Yes, we do.
You decide they're better thanyou.
You decide they're so important.
(11:55):
You decide, did so, and so saythis oh, then we have to do this
.
Or, oh, my gosh, just so and soCan I get a picture with you?
Can I get your autograph?
Can I buy your book?
Can I do all these things?
And then we're shocked thatthey're human or that they are
just so money, power hungry thatthey run off and do things.
And here's my biggest issuewith the shit that they do.
(12:18):
When they do this shit and I amhypothetically speaking about
more than one person right herein my examples, so if you think
you know one, do you know theother?
Anyhow, I digress when you dothis shit, you make us all look
bad, you make us look creamy,you make it look like we don't
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have any credibility.
You literally put egg on ourface and dung on our arms.
Don't I made?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
that up Gross, but I
got it.
You're right collectively,because if we worship one, two
or three of these top people,they do something bad.
We all look bad.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Totally, totally, and
that's where we are right now.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
This reminds me of
when I was in physical therapy,
like we would.
Our clinic would treat thepeople who won the 1985 Super
Bowl the Bears or whatever theBears and they would come in and
the owner of the clinic wouldbe like you need to treat them
extra good, like they're theBears and I'm like I'm going to
treat them like every otherpatient, which is good, like I.
(13:31):
He's not getting any specialtreatment, he's not getting any
extra stretches because he's forthe bears, like I don't see
people like that and it's likewhen I'm not.
I don't super love celebritieseither.
I get designated by thembecause they're.
They look like they live adifferent life.
But you're right, it just leadsto demise when we idolize
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people like that.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yes, yes, and, and
it's different to like, observe.
I'm like, what is it like to belike that?
And, oh my gosh, that person,oh my, or I'm on so and so's
team.
I'm direct as I'm five downfrom so and so who fricking
cares?
Who cares?
You know it happens time aftertime.
Thank you, cindy Lopper.
When people join that bigperson's, like the top person's
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team, they get no attention.
That person has no time for you.
So what did you just go and do?
You decided not to join theperson who, yeah, maybe he's not
as high in the company butliterally is invested in you.
And you join this person's.
You could say I'm with so andso and maybe I could breathe the
same air.
Guess what?
The air they're breathing isthe same air you are breathing
(14:41):
and it has toxins in it.
I love how we both went totoxins, y'all it is.
So I just I don't even knowwhat to say.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Why we do that at
times is because we don't feel
worthy ourselves, so it's easierto then idolize someone else
and like use that person as anexample, when in reality just
work on yourself and improvingyour self worth.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Wouldn't that be nice
.
And I think you're right.
I know it.
Why do we think that I don'tknow, I don't have the answer.
I don't have the answer.
I know it's going to happentime after time and these people
are going to disappoint usbecause they're human.
Guess what?
These people are human andhumans.
(15:35):
We make decisions and choicesand they're not always the right
ones.
Often they're not.
I just y'all, I just I'm at aloss.
There it is.
I'm like is that reallyhappened?
And it did.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I am dying to know I.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I'd be dying to know
too, if I were you.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I like have an
inkling where I'm like my wonder
, but maybe not, I don't know,we'll see.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, I'm going to
tell you, don't worry, I will
tell you after this.
So I guess the point is you'renot any better, not any better
or any worse than anyone else,and that's yeah.
That goes for us too.
We are not better or worse thananyone else.
I'm not better, taryn's notbetter.
We aren't and we're not worse.
So we have to remember that.
And then, truly, y'all you'regiving away your power by
(16:29):
idolizing these people, and whenpeople get what is like
something about ultimate power,ultimate corruption, what is
that thing about power andcorruption?
And I don't know, absolutepower.
Yes, someone's yelling, y'allare yelling going.
It's thanks, roxie, and you'vereleased a podcast like that's
not right.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
They were like yes,
it is no, no, and they're like
we'll get some messages about itCorruption and, yes, something
like that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Anyway, yes, stop
giving them that If you don't
care about, if you don't treatthem and put them up on this
pedestal, then when they do thisshit it does not rock the
industry as much, or they maynot do this because they're not
given the power to be able to doit Right, and I don't mind
giving your power away to them.
(17:18):
Exactly, I don't mind tellingyou, I saw both of these coming.
I'm not kidding, I saw both ofthese coming, both of them both.
Of course you did, I know, Iknow I did.
I'm like okay, that's gonna,that's not gonna end well,
that's not going to end well.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You're like see right
through that one, seriously,
that's what I've got.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I know it's like we
gave you the two without the T
but you know I'm not gettingthere.
They're all.
They're so happy I'm notgetting sued by using their
names.
So y'all can look it up.
Oh, by the way, you could lookit up.
It is all over the internet,Ooh, okay.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, all right With
that.
Don't do that, don't be thatperson.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
This is not your
problem.
But your problem is comingy'all and your problem doesn't
have to be in this company.
Just know that it can be in amillion different places.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
All right, We'll see
you guys next week.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Bye everybody, Y'all
we're back and you're probably
wondering didn't y'all just saygoodbye?
I think we said goodbye.
If you felt at the end of thepodcast seemed a little weird,
it was because we were sittingon things and not saying what we
really wanted to say, and so weare being transparent.
If you like it, great, if youdon't, great, you can tell us.
(18:35):
One of the biggest pet peevesabout this is that, by design,
network marketing is and directselling is a very female
oriented business.
Most of the consultants,distributors, whatever you want
to call yourself, you're female,and yet when a male is guiding
(18:58):
you as a coach or as a traineror as a top leader I'm putting
it in quotes everyone gravitatesand worships them.
I saw the same thing in jazz.
Jazz, by the way.
It was so very annoying.
What is that about?
Like, why?
Why are we worshiping and likeoh, the man said to do this or
this man isn't it?
(19:18):
We have to like.
What is that about y'all Like?
I'm not being rude, I'm beinghonest.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Right, exactly, I was
thinking the same thing, where,
when you look at men and women,right, we're different in a lot
of ways, and I'm going to honein on the way as in women, we
tend to carry more of a mentalload, we tend to have more
things on our plate and I don'twant to say burdens, but things
that hold us back from maybedoing things the way a man would
(19:46):
, because he has more freedom,flexibility.
So then, why are we takingadvice from a man whose schedule
looks way different than what awoman does and he's not taking
into consideration, like howyou're taking care of your
children, or maybe you also haveto watch your friends kids, and
(20:09):
there's just so many differentnuances where it's like why are
you taking advice from someonewhose life is way different from
you and why are you worshipingthem?
Because it's automaticallysetting you up to fail.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, that's an
interesting take on it.
It just annoys me in general,but you've broken it down.
Why are we saying, okay, thisperson said to do this, when
they don't live your life oranything really near it?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, yeah, and I
guess that could even go to.
You could even compare that toa woman.
Thank you, no, ok, who has adifferent lifestyle, like, why
are we worshiping someone whohas something completely
different situationally?
It's just interesting to me.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Well, and you know,
what I think is also interesting
is it's not only that we, it'slike, for some reason, the males
.
When the males voice comes,it's we give it more weight.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, like God
complex.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, like I said, I
saw it in jazz in the sense of
like if there was a male jazzersize instructor, everyone would
flock to his class, even if hewas horrible.
Like he.
Literally, if you had justblind taste test, you would have
been like, oh no, these femaleinstructors are way better, but
they flock, and if that maleinstructor made a mistake they
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were more forgiving at it thanif a female instructor made a
mistake.
And so, like, take that intonetwork marketing.
If the male network marketersays to do, or the leader says
to do this, you're like, oh yes,he said to do this.
And he says it's like this.
And you're right, taryn,because most of the time those
male network marketers who arelike leading you and telling you
(21:49):
how to work your business havea wife at home who is running
all the other things so thatthey can do all this.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Right, they can be in
the DMs all day in cold
pitching and reaching out topeople.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, you're not
wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And I'm not saying
I'm not trying to be like I'm a
feminist in bar, it's justinteresting to me, it's
interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And it's why are you
worshiping?
Don't get wrong, there's femaleworshiping, definitely in
network marketing as well too.
I'm not saying that there's notthat.
There's definitely that.
But when the male is worshipedat the level you're flocking, it
just doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
And then it comes out
and he's involved in all these
things, right.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Multiple.
He's Right.
And, what's also interesting,if you blind taste tested the
advice that they werehypothetically giving,
oftentimes it's totally outdatedbecause they haven't done it in
forever and you're like, oh,I've got to do that.
They say to do this thing, orthey're literally just talking
(22:57):
about how they grow theirbusiness, but they've got a
bunch of assistants and it's notthe same.
Yeah.
That's very interesting, butokay, we digress.
That's the after party.
You can get mad at us if youwant, but just like food for
thought.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Food for thought.
Take it or leave it.
Take it into consideration,Maybe, if maybe you are someone
who is worshiping someone uphigher and it's like this is the
nudge to be like you're just asgood, you are just good.
And leave it at that.
Just leave it.
Take that if anything.
So, for real, goodbye, Goodbye.
Thanks for listening to anotherepisode of Rocks Talks.
(23:35):
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behind.
You're exactly where you'resupposed to be and we'll see you
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