January 31, 2024 • 30 mins
Join us as we explore the delicate balance between embracing your personal brand's uniqueness and avoiding cookie-cutter outreach. Discover the importance of saying "no" in this competitive game and learn why authenticity is more than just a buzzword—it's the cornerstone of a successful network marketing strategy.
From the pitfalls of selling without trying the product to hearty debates on perceived value, we share laughs and wisdom in a candid exploration of the industry's do's and absolute don'ts!
In this episode, we discuss the following:
- Saying "No": Saying "no" and the importance of setting boundaries
- Hey Girl Messages: The ineffectiveness and potential negative impact of "Hey Girl" messages.
- Joining Before Trying: We advise against joining a business or selling a product without trying it first.
- Choosing Product Value Over Price: The importance of selecting a product based on its value rather than focusing solely on its price is discussed.
- Posting Promotions on Social Media: We discourage the practice of simply posting promotional graphics on social media without personal engagement.
- Building Personal Brand: The significance of building a personal brand on social media and how it can contribute to long-term success in network marketing.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to Rock's Talks, the podcast that helps
network marketers grow theirbusiness on social media.
I'm Roxanne Wilson, socialmedia network marketing coach,
with nearly a decade ofexperience in the space, as well
as television and radioexperience, and a passion to
really help you and empower youto be the best network marketer
you can be, which means knowingyourself and knowing your brand.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I'm Taryn Soa, your social media sidekick.
I run all things behind thescenes at Rock's Talks, While
being the right hand woman toRoxanne, I also strategize and
manage our full social mediaplan.
So I would love to share withyou the tips, the happenings,
(00:50):
all the things going on in thesocial media world.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Each week, we're here to give you the latest and
greatest direct selling, socialselling, network marketing,
whatever you like to call it.
The end game is for you toreally understand your business,
understand yourself and yourbrand and to rock it on social
media.
Taryn, I'm not with you.
Does anyone else do that, or isthat just me?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Hopefully someone's answering in their car right now
.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yes, every time I hear this, I sing that Carpool
Grace is like I do, I do.
Oh my gosh, I love that.
Yeah, it just needs to be done.
It needs to be a thing.
It's so in, but we're nottalking about what's in right
now.
We're talking about what's outfor 2024, which reminds me that
if you didn't watch your Listento the Ends, you need to go back
(01:41):
.
Were you listening to podcasts?
And last week's episode is whatwas in?
We started with the brightlights and now we're going to
start with.
We're going to continue withthe nose.
Do you say no to your children?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yes, okay, all right, oh, yes.
So that's the things where theysay you shouldn't say no to
your kid and there's times whereI'll rephrase it but no, we,
that's a solid word in our house.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, that's how we end up with millennials.
Everyone gets a trophy andthere's no nose.
And here we are.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I was told no.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I was told no, yes, caribbean household.
I was told no, yes, okay, butwe're going to tell you about
the nose.
But you know, I want to remindyou, although we're going to
tell you what's out, we always,always, always, always advocate
for you being your own businessperson and doing what's right
for you.
So that's kind of like thecaveat Don't do this.
(02:37):
But if it really feels good toyou and I've had people come
really, for example, I love, heygirl, I can't help myself I'm
like, well, okay, I can't stopyou from doing, I don't want to
stop you from doing what'snaturally you.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, and sometimes it might work for you, even
though we're saying it doesn'twork for the general population.
So, be the unicorn, work whatyou got.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Shake what your mama gave you Therapy bill.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Have you seen that meme going around?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
No, but that's funny.
That makes me feel like innerchild work.
Inner child work it's what Iwas talking about.
You know, we've got it.
I think we start with what youliterally just said, which is
you know we got to start withthe one that just it is like a
cockroach when the world goesdown, the cockroaches will still
(03:31):
be fine.
Hey, girl messages they willnot die.
They're like that bad, like inthose shows where you've got
that like they're like low keybut not cool, like low key never
dies, right?
I know a little bit of a marvel.
They're like that villain whereyou think they're gone and it's
like I'm not in, the handraises and you're like, oh,
(03:53):
they're gone now.
No, they're not.
And now that is a-.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
That's the hey girl message, the creepy hand still
raising from the ashes, yes, thecockroach, that just won't die.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And then it flies, cockroaches fly.
Do you remember when you foundthat out?
That was not cool, not cool.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Ew, ew.
I don't like the analogy we'regoing with, because now I'm
getting chills about cockroaches, but ugh.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, that is my goal here, because I just want,
whenever you think about doing ahey girl message, I want you to
think about flying cockroaches,okay.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yes, coming at ya.
Yes, it's gross, it needs to bestomped on.
It was a few episodes back.
We'd read a modern hey girlmessage which it was someone
trying to make it in.
It's still not in.
Even the way she did it, it wasnot in.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
It's like your dad.
Do you see those insurancecommercials where that old
gentleman is trying to teach theparents, no, don't do that.
Like they're trying to be hitand like no, don't do that.
You'll see it now.
It's funny.
It's funny, okay, alas.
Yeah, you don't watch as muchTV as I do.
It's got to go, y'all it's gotto go.
(05:07):
Why?
Because it's not normal.
You don't normally talk topeople like that about anything,
and it feels like a Carl Carl,carl Carl salesman, a Carl's Jr
salesman, a used Carl salesmanwho, and maybe like in, maybe in
2024, that's not an analogyanymore.
Do people not know what that is?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
No, I mean you still go to buy a car.
I mean I bought a car last year.
It wasn't a used guy, but likea pushy.
They still are slimy.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Okay, okay, I did me last night trying to cancel my
direct TV.
After four hours of nonsenseand the two in the day, two at
night, I just want to cancel.
They would not.
I said no repeatedly.
And that's what happens withK-girl messages, right, or I
guess it's K-girl messages.
Slash the not taking no-frontanswer.
(06:00):
If you're still in that liketheory that, hey, you need them
to say no to you three times orsix times before you stop y'all
For reals.
I finally said to direct TVthis is abusive, you are abusing
me, this is torture.
Please, please, cancel and giveme a refund.
Yeah, why is that not on thewebsite at this age Cancel.
(06:27):
In a world where, technically,the industry of network
marketing is female, so perhapswe should respect that.
No means no, mmm.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
They just have a little feminist spin on it.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Well, I mean not even feminist, not that being
feminist is bad or good orwhatever, but just like you have
kids, you teach your child thatthere's personal space and when
someone says please stop, youstop, except in network
marketing.
What the truck is that about?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, it just feels like a waste of time to me.
Like you're running yourbusiness, you probably have
limited time because you'reusing this as a side hustle,
right?
Why are you spending it sendingthese messages where 90% of the
time you're getting no, all forthat 10% of the yes, when you
could be doing other things?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
1% is a yes, first of all.
Okay, 1%, 1%, guys, that'sreally in my little brain.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'm like, okay, I've got limited time, I am not doing
that and it's just gonna makeme feel like crap.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Exactly, and it doesn't make you feel like
you're a business person.
It makes you feel like you'rejust like.
The numbers game is a dangerousthing.
It's a numbers game.
It's numbers game.
You find your people, yeah, butit's not.
I would actually say that thosewho do that in business like
salespeople, who do that inbusiness are probably a rung up
(08:01):
from the hey girl messages,because the hey girl messages is
not just I wanna sell yousomething, it's I want you to
join my team and then I want youto go ahead and sell a bunch of
things that I'm gonna makemoney off of you repeatedly
until oblivion.
There's a lot of like ulteriormotive in that.
(08:21):
And listen, the industry great,but there's a way like it is
network marketing.
You need to network.
You need to meet people.
You need to be straight up withthem.
You need to not vomit all overthem.
All these things you want themto do and all these things you
wanna say.
Have a conversation.
Have a conversation.
(08:42):
Start by making do you likethis person?
Can you tell me how many peoplehave like done the hey girl
message?
And they end up with peoplethey don't even like on their
team.
That's karma, karma is gettingpeople on your team.
Taylor's team does words.
Karma is getting people on yourteam that you don't want
because you did the hey girlmessages.
Get it, get it.
I like this version.
(09:03):
That's Roxanne's version.
Thank you very much, but I justsomething to think about.
We could go on and on about heygirl messages.
I guess Should we go to thenext one we could.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Let's go to the next one.
Okay, and it is.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Joining before trying the thing that you're selling.
Oh gosh, I love this one, yes.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
And that actually kind of stems from like the hey
girl message, because thatmessage probably led that person
to join before you've beengetting the product.
And I was like wait you justtalked me out of a sale, but now
I'm selling it.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yes, okay.
But listen, I want you to knowwe're talking about the outs and
I always say these are thingsthat I've learned the hard way.
I came into this industrysaying, okay, I'm gonna be
coachable, I'm gonna just put mypride aside.
And they say this works, I willdo it.
So I want you to be clear aboutthat.
I am not just like I've neverdone this and I'm seeing these
(09:59):
things.
I've done it and I'm tellingyou, as I've gotten out of it,
of those tactics and ways,better ways, and so I say that
to you.
I joined before I tried.
I bought the big $1,000 kit.
Yes, I did.
I'm like, all right, I orderedto try it and I'm like, whatever
, I'll just order the $1,000 kitand try it.
(10:20):
Now, did I sell before I triedit?
No, I did not, but I did buythe whole.
Okay, I'll do this.
You joined, I did.
I joined before I tried, and Iwould tell you I wouldn't do it
again, because why would I sellsomething I don't believe in?
And I really thought, oh, Ibelieve in this.
(10:43):
And I went to a bunch of things.
I'm like, oh, this is gonna begreat.
But I didn't even try theskincare yet you believed in
yourself, yes, and I believed inthe people that, like the
present, like some of the peoplein the presentation and I've
talked with that I interviewedI'm like, okay, this looks, this
feels good.
However, these certaincompanies, like this great
(11:03):
example, certain companies willtell you after you've used the
product for 30 days, or afteryou've used the product for a
while, we're gonna send you areferral code so you can share
about it.
And to me, that is a moreorganic way because it's like
okay, I've had it for 30 days.
My security system didn't giveme my referral code to a certain
(11:24):
time.
They wanted to make sure I washappy before they're like please
tell the world about us.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yes, oh, I can't stand that when, like our
apartment was asking for us torefer people before we even
moved in and it asked me to givea review, I was like we didn't
even move in yet, like we'removing in next week.
This is odd, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, there's something about now, I realize,
because it's go, go, go andpeople are just trying to make
money, like really truly teams,or you're trying to grow your
team.
There's no time for that.
Come join us.
The thought process of evengiving someone hey, let's take
30 days, try the product andthen do it again and then join
(12:07):
Freaks people out because, like,what if I lose them?
What if they decide they don'tlike it?
Well, yeah, but if they don'tlike it, you don't want them on
your team.
Mm-hmm, they're not going to beyour best, best.
Some of the best people onteams are people who try the
product first.
For a while, experienced youand saw what you did in your
business and then said, okay, Iwant to do it Now.
(12:27):
I'm not saying you can't comein as a business person If
you're like coming in, I'mlooking for a business that I
want to do.
Great, try the product first.
Please Try it first, yeah.
So, try it.
And, importantly, it is onething for the person coming in
to decide, hey, I'm going totake a leap of faith and I'm
going to join without trying it.
That is completely differentfrom you encouraging them to
(12:51):
join without trying it, becausethat is where it feels very
weird.
They can make that decision ontheir own.
But when you're like, no, no,don't try it, just come on, just
join, you'll get the stuff thatyou're doing, and people are
going like that feels weird.
Think about it.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, it's weird.
It's weird to me, yeah, and wehave to think about the strategy
we're using here, guys.
So the strategy is that you'regoing to be selling this and
you're going to be growing onsocial media right, but the heck
are you going to talk about ifyou haven't used it and can't
endorse it?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Right, well, I mean, you're going to talk about your
journey, but then if you're like, by the way, this stuff sucks,
you got to say that too.
Yeah, you know, I think whatyou should think about as you
said you're saying, terrin,which is so great is that this
you can document your journey oftrying it, and you can even
(13:42):
save that content, if you wantto, until you start selling it.
And you have all that content.
It's okay to be 30 days or 60days or even a couple weeks
ahead of what you're postingonline.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yes, third one Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Next yeah, okay.
So when you were deciding whatyour keyword product is, when
you are making decisions foryour business, you don't have to
go to the bottom of the barrel.
A lot of people think, oh mygosh, I have to find the
cheapest thing because peoplearen't going to buy anything
expensive, and so I have to findsomething that is cheap, even
(14:20):
if I don't like it, even it'snot the best thing, because
people are telling me that myproducts are too expensive.
I hear this often.
If your products are tooexpensive, it means you haven't
given people the value, you havenot shown people the value.
I was walking through the malllast week.
No, well, last week, I rememberwhen my daughter was here and
we were walking through the malland we decided to walk through
Gucci.
There were a lot of people inGucci, gucci, there were a lot
(14:44):
of people in Gucci.
Okay, those people are alsopeople who are going to tell you
they can't afford your whatever.
Fill in the blank yeah, butthey're shopping at Gucci, not
window shopping, like we werelike, please don't talk to us,
we're just looking at things.
They were like legit buying,okay, they have the money.
(15:05):
They don't see the value.
That's the end of the day,truly.
But if you decide I have topick the cheap thing, then
you're not even doing it becauseyou want to be doing it and,
honestly, y'all at some pointpeople will not like oh, it's
like a, if it's low price andyou don't value it, that energy
is not going to be somethingwhere people are like I want to
(15:26):
buy it.
And maybe there's something tothe strategy of okay, I'm not
going to have as many salesinitially, perhaps, maybe.
However, because I'm choosing amore expensive product every
time I do have a sale, I'm goingto make a nice chunk of change
off of it versus having to sell20 of the little things to get a
(15:51):
nice chunk of change.
Yep.
I have to shout out to Kangan,which is a whole different.
Like Kangan water systems.
I'm seeing more and more peoplejoin them right now.
I think that's great.
Their water systems are like$3,000, $4,000.
They just sell the water system.
Yeah, you're like what I'msaying that people can't afford
my $200 routine.
(16:13):
Yep, people are buying $3,000.
And the thing is they're notbuying.
I mean, they buy and buy at oneother machine, but it's not
like they're like I need oneevery month and yet they're
having a sustainable businessbased on that.
I'm not saying you have to runand do that.
I'm just saying, with what yousell, with what your company
you're in, consider what is theproduct you really believe in,
(16:35):
not necessarily the one that'sthe cheapest.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, yeah, like, and I think we, when we were
planning on this episode, wewere talking about like nail
strips.
Like if that's not somethingthat you can get behind or
you're even really usingyourself, kind of goes with the
last out, it's gonna be harderfor you to sell, whereas if
you're super passionate aboutdrinking clean water, that's
(16:58):
gonna be easier for you to sell.
Even though the pricedifference is way different.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Totally and I think there is a change in the water.
Change in the water.
It's a way to water wherepeople are being more picky
about what they're buying andthey're willing to spend more
for the thing that they want.
They're not trying to buy abunch of disposable shit.
They're like I think it dependson the market.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But I see what you're saying because, like, I'm gonna
say, I'm gonna talk to myfamily like yeah, there's no
change in the water there, like-.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
No change in the water.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But is that the audience you wanna go for Cause?
Then they might buy from you aton one month and the next month
they're off on something else.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
weird, I'm not very loyal and we go back to.
We were talking about StanLee's last week.
Stan Lee is not the best cupout there, but man do I love it.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I saw the craziest.
This is such a side tangent,but I just need to talk about it
.
Like Stan Lee's is causing inschools, it's like creating
clicks and like hierarchies oflike who has the latest?
Like Stan Lee color and I'mlike how crazy is that?
Like your water bottle is nowdefining like your rank?
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's insane.
One of the reasons we haddirect TV was still giving us LA
news and not giving us, andthey couldn't change it and they
couldn't figure it out.
Stupid, anyway, yeah, but whenI was on the phone with them
trying to see if it switched,they had me do all the things I
did on my own before I called.
There was some news, somethingon the news about someone who
(18:34):
stole like 40, 50, stan Leewater bottles.
They were in there they'reprobably more in there in their
trunk when you saw them in thetrunk and then they had them out
on top of the trunk and Scott'slike if you're gonna steal,
steal something more valuable.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I'm like no way they can resell those things, yeah,
especially what if they were thepink ones, like, oh my god, you
got a million dollars in there.
Not really, but but they're not.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I mean, listen, you can't put them in your bag and
expect your bag to be dry, okay,no, but people will spend money
.
Honestly, I'm just saying likeI could probably get a less
expensive water bottle thatprobably would last me, would
probably more reliable, but Idon't care.
People will spend money onsomething they find valuable.
Just remember that Stanley'smaking a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Exactly, it doesn't need to be literally valuable
Like we're thinking, like, oh mygosh, like there's so much
about it's a social value.
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And we don't condone clicks in school.
Stop that.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Everyone should love everyone oh my God, Only if you
have five Stan Lee's you can sitwith us.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
And what are the colors?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You need one fabric color of the week.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Right, and is that a 2024 shade or is that a 2023
shade?
I need to know oh.
It's a thing I'm sure this onewas near and dear to your heart.
Number four posting yourpromotions Talk to us.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yes, so Gone are the days, you guys, it's out, it's
Gone where you can create alittle graphic on Canva or
Bettered, yet get it from yourupline of your promotion and
just post it on Instagram orFacebook, looking for five
people who want to try X, y, zand actually get a post out of
(20:19):
it.
I say a lot of it.
Oh yes, say a sale.
Yeah, it's Gone, it's a thing.
That's not how you sell.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I feel like we've said this year after year,
Ter-Bear.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
They still sneak in for those newbies.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
They do, which means someone still teach you them the
old ways.
You're right, so what's abetter way, my dear?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Well, that's a loaded question.
I mean, that's where you haveto listen to the whole darn
podcast, because we haveinformation about how to do it
on social media.
But you've got to show yourface, you've got to use video.
You're showing up in stories.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You know, yeah, don't think that.
You're like, you're not a swapmeet, what I will, you're not a
swap meet.
Do you remember swap meets Likethey'd be on Saturdays and you
go to like the Coliseum andpeople just sell a bunch of shit
.
It's like a garage sale.
You're not a garage sale.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Your social media is not a swap meet, oh my God, a
market, like they call them,like a market now, and sometimes
it's used and sometimes it'sold yeah, swap meets, where they
used to call them.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
You're not a swap meet.
Your social media is not a swapmeet.
Just consider that.
Spend a little more time.
It's a long game If someonedidn't tell you you out your
business.
This is a long game.
It's not a short game at all.
I got the coolest this is veryapropos.
I think I got the coolest voicememo from Nancy Wilde yesterday
(21:47):
and she was like she's touchingface with me, all these things,
and she's like I was thinkingabout you a lot and I just
wanted to tell you I shouldn'thave said her whole name, whoops
, she's got this upline it'slike a big, big upline in a
company and stuff and had comeout and said something to think
she's like okay, y'all, I usedto be identified in social media
(22:09):
as the company I was withbefore and now everybody knows
me for the company I'm with.
Now I'm realizing is what Ineed to be doing is creating my
own brand.
Nancy goes.
She's like I thought Roxanne'sbeen saying that for four years
and then her upline also saidy'all, I'm realizing that the
(22:30):
way right now to get morebusiness online is to have a
lead gen.
And she's like I learned thisthis weekend.
We need a lead gen and Nancy waslike Roxanne's been saying that
for four years.
She's like what the heck?
And she's like.
I just wanted to mention thatyou're before your time.
I wanted you to know that I waslike that is such a manifesto
(22:51):
compliment.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yes it is Right.
So you're saying you guyslisten to last week's episode
and this week episode and takeit to heart.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Take it to heart.
Take it to heart and binge thewhole series because it's before
it's time.
What can I say Before?
It's time I was like I'm like Ishould have cared before your
time in front of, and I wroteback up, I messed back up.
I'm like, yes, I am.
I was like I received that.
Yes, I am.
That was really cool, and youknow, and all the things.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
What's going on behind the scenes with you, my
friend?
I know wasn't that cool.
We are dogs sitting right now.
I'm home right now because wehave a doctor's appointment
today, but we have been dogssitting at a house out here in
Brentwood, tennessee.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is like35 minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
It's a nice neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yes, it's a very nice neighborhood and I'm in a big
house and at night I'm actuallykind of scared in the house
Because I'm like there's just somany places people could hide.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
You know, all the musicians are in that
neighborhood, in Franklin, soyou should be like who is there?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Are you there?
We're cold.
Yes, now that the snow and iceis melting literally, I pulled
in and it was just straight ice,because I'm like I want to walk
around a bit more and checkthis out and we're right by the
governor's, something which isfor those who know it's like a
really celebrity neighborhood.
It is, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I'm like I know where you are.
You can't enjoy it.
Live the life, Do your thing,Walk around with your Stanley so
they know you belong.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So they know I'm one of them, I know.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I know you know, ok, she has a Stanley, we're good.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
With my three dogs, because I brought my dog and
then I'm watching two dogs, ohand my two kids.
Yeah, I'm going to be a cipher,I'm going to be hilarious.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Definitely room for the Stanley in all those hands
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yes, yes and yes so that's us.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
That's about as exciting as it gets.
Oh, and today actually, I hiredI think I mentioned this last
week I hired my first actualbabysitter and she's coming
today, today is the first day.
Today is the first day.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Will you tell us on the Gram how it goes?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Maybe Only if it goes well, I haven't been doing much
on the Gram lately, where youdo your stuff Nowhere.
Nowhere.
I've been very private lately.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I don't know why.
I think we have shades.
That's normal.
We have moments in time wherethere's like that's OK, Nothing
wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah yeah.
It's one of those quiet whereI'm like I'm just not talking
about myself on social media,you don't have to Y'all, you
don't have to.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
You can take moments of pause.
You can.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And my business is still growing.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So just throwing that out there.
Her business is thriving.
Her business is thriving, Ilove that.
What can I tell you since lastweek?
I guess we were just a few daysago, so I went, I worked out.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Wow, Roxanne worked out.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Listen, listen, Linda .
It's been a while.
I worked out.
I did my yoga and my danceclass.
There were 43 people in thedance class, oh my gosh, and
they had a sub.
You know people will show upfor sub days.
I'm like, oh OK, we have adance community in here.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
We are serious about dancing Yep.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And then I went to the big kid Rick Check him out
on Instagram on Sunday morning.
But I was driving there.
I was like I had this epiphanyand I started a new Instagram.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I saw that last Was it yesterday.
I was like, is this a new?
I wasn't sure if it was real.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, I just started a new one.
It's real, it's called theValley Rocks, because this is
the Valley of the Sun.
And so I'm just, I'm going tobe not just I'm going to be
putting like different places, Igo and things as I reintroduce
myself and I fall in love againwith Arizona, my base of my
hometown.
So, back, what city are youguys in?
We're in Chandler, but it's thegreater Phoenix area.
(26:45):
So Phoenix, chandler, tempe,mesa, scottsdale, they're all
like right there.
Glendale, they're all rightthere.
So, yeah, I'm like I wasdriving, like, ok, I'm talking
to myself, my little main eventstuff.
I'm like I'm like Valley Rocks,ok, we'll start that.
And so I did.
That was kind of exciting,that's fun.
Oh, I like it.
(27:06):
Yes, and we have anannouncement.
Ok, I wasn't sure if we weresaying it.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, we got toinform.
That's what we do, right, weare in the words of Bravo.
I've been watching a lot ofHousewives.
We are taking a pause on thispodcast.
On the podcast there will be apause, not because we don't love
(27:26):
you, not because we don't loveeach other, just life changes
are happening rapidly and,frankly, you got a lot of great
shit to listen to in binge.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And you do and you really should.
You should, and you're stillgonna be on the gram.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Oh yeah, at Rocks, talks will be on the gram, and
if Taryn feels like talkingshe'll be on the gram too.
She might not feel like, whoknows, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I still talk to people, yeah, okay, well, she's
on the gram.
You can still DM me.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
DM slide into her Taryn.
So what do you do, dms, but notwith product that you're trying
to sell, or join your team.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, no, no, I don't have that belief.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, no, I'll still be on.
Please follow me on at RocksTalks.
I'll follow Taryn at at TarynSoa T-A-R-Y-N-S-O-W-A Dot dot
S-O-W-A.
I was like I know how to spellthis.
I got this girl T-A-R-Y-N dotS-O-W-A who has your name is
what I wanna know.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
There is a Taryn Soa out there already.
Yeah, dare they, I know, right,I thought I was like the one.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I'm not, seriously the two names are very unique.
Put them together and someoneelse has it.
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
It's Polish.
Well, I guess Taryn's actuallyIrish Soa's Polish.
I am Polish and they know Idon't know.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Follow us there.
You can follow Valley Rocks ifyou wanna see what's going on in
Arizona.
And also I wanna remind youthat you can still and
absolutely I'm still gonna bedoing programs for network
marketers and direct sellers.
That's still going.
Just renewing my pro.
If you're interested in somecoaching twice a month and then
(29:08):
also some group coaching twice amonth so we see each other
weekly, let me know.
But also if you just wanna getall of the things you're like,
oh, she has Legion stuff Ididn't know that just for us.
Or she has had a brand, you canget the entire, all of my stuff
and everything I'm making thisyear coming up for $117.
You can just get that atrockstalksco.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Hello, my eyes.
Literally, you guys, this is anamazing deal.
So if you're growing yourbusiness in 2024, you need all
these goodies Totally and thatincludes monthly templates that
are so you can do your stuffAnyhow.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
So just know that those are there for you and,
like I said, it's a pause.
It's not a goodbye, it's apause, pause, pause, pause on
the pod.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Let you guys catch up .
We'll catch up.
Yeah, figure out what the nextstep is.
Absolutely, we'll be back.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yep Right, you're not ahead, you're not behind.
You're exactly where you'resupposed to be and that's a wrap
.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Thanks for listening to another episode of RocksTalks
.
We would love for you to helpus get this message out to other
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I'll see you in tomorrow'sepisode.
Welcome to Rock's Talks, the podcast that helps
network marketers grow theirbusiness on social media.
I'm Roxanne Wilson, socialmedia network marketing coach,
with nearly a decade ofexperience in the space, as well
as television and radioexperience, and a passion to
really help you and empower youto be the best network marketer
you can be, which means knowingyourself and knowing your brand.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I'm Taryn Soa, your social media sidekick.
I run all things behind thescenes at Rock's Talks, While
being the right hand woman toRoxanne, I also strategize and
manage our full social mediaplan.
So I would love to share withyou the tips, the happenings,
(00:50):
all the things going on in thesocial media world.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Each week, we're here to give you the latest and
greatest direct selling, socialselling, network marketing,
whatever you like to call it.
The end game is for you toreally understand your business,
understand yourself and yourbrand and to rock it on social
media.
Taryn, I'm not with you.
Does anyone else do that, or isthat just me?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Hopefully someone's answering in their car right now
.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yes, every time I hear this, I sing that Carpool
Grace is like I do, I do.
Oh my gosh, I love that.
Yeah, it just needs to be done.
It needs to be a thing.
It's so in, but we're nottalking about what's in right
now.
We're talking about what's outfor 2024, which reminds me that
if you didn't watch your Listento the Ends, you need to go back
(01:41):
.
Were you listening to podcasts?
And last week's episode is whatwas in?
We started with the brightlights and now we're going to
start with.
We're going to continue withthe nose.
Do you say no to your children?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yes, okay, all right, oh, yes.
So that's the things where theysay you shouldn't say no to
your kid and there's times whereI'll rephrase it but no, we,
that's a solid word in our house.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, that's how we end up with millennials.
Everyone gets a trophy andthere's no nose.
And here we are.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I was told no.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I was told no, yes, caribbean household.
I was told no, yes, okay, butwe're going to tell you about
the nose.
But you know, I want to remindyou, although we're going to
tell you what's out, we always,always, always, always advocate
for you being your own businessperson and doing what's right
for you.
So that's kind of like thecaveat Don't do this.
(02:37):
But if it really feels good toyou and I've had people come
really, for example, I love, heygirl, I can't help myself I'm
like, well, okay, I can't stopyou from doing, I don't want to
stop you from doing what'snaturally you.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, and sometimes it might work for you, even
though we're saying it doesn'twork for the general population.
So, be the unicorn, work whatyou got.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Shake what your mama gave you Therapy bill.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Have you seen that meme going around?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
No, but that's funny.
That makes me feel like innerchild work.
Inner child work it's what Iwas talking about.
You know, we've got it.
I think we start with what youliterally just said, which is
you know we got to start withthe one that just it is like a
cockroach when the world goesdown, the cockroaches will still
(03:31):
be fine.
Hey, girl messages they willnot die.
They're like that bad, like inthose shows where you've got
that like they're like low keybut not cool, like low key never
dies, right?
I know a little bit of a marvel.
They're like that villain whereyou think they're gone and it's
like I'm not in, the handraises and you're like, oh,
(03:53):
they're gone now.
No, they're not.
And now that is a-.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
That's the hey girl message, the creepy hand still
raising from the ashes, yes, thecockroach, that just won't die.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And then it flies, cockroaches fly.
Do you remember when you foundthat out?
That was not cool, not cool.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Ew, ew.
I don't like the analogy we'regoing with, because now I'm
getting chills about cockroaches, but ugh.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, that is my goal here, because I just want,
whenever you think about doing ahey girl message, I want you to
think about flying cockroaches,okay.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yes, coming at ya.
Yes, it's gross, it needs to bestomped on.
It was a few episodes back.
We'd read a modern hey girlmessage which it was someone
trying to make it in.
It's still not in.
Even the way she did it, it wasnot in.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
It's like your dad.
Do you see those insurancecommercials where that old
gentleman is trying to teach theparents, no, don't do that.
Like they're trying to be hitand like no, don't do that.
You'll see it now.
It's funny.
It's funny, okay, alas.
Yeah, you don't watch as muchTV as I do.
It's got to go, y'all it's gotto go.
(05:07):
Why?
Because it's not normal.
You don't normally talk topeople like that about anything,
and it feels like a Carl Carl,carl Carl salesman, a Carl's Jr
salesman, a used Carl salesmanwho, and maybe like in, maybe in
2024, that's not an analogyanymore.
Do people not know what that is?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
No, I mean you still go to buy a car.
I mean I bought a car last year.
It wasn't a used guy, but likea pushy.
They still are slimy.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Okay, okay, I did me last night trying to cancel my
direct TV.
After four hours of nonsenseand the two in the day, two at
night, I just want to cancel.
They would not.
I said no repeatedly.
And that's what happens withK-girl messages, right, or I
guess it's K-girl messages.
Slash the not taking no-frontanswer.
(06:00):
If you're still in that liketheory that, hey, you need them
to say no to you three times orsix times before you stop y'all
For reals.
I finally said to direct TVthis is abusive, you are abusing
me, this is torture.
Please, please, cancel and giveme a refund.
Yeah, why is that not on thewebsite at this age Cancel.
(06:27):
In a world where, technically,the industry of network
marketing is female, so perhapswe should respect that.
No means no, mmm.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
They just have a little feminist spin on it.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Well, I mean not even feminist, not that being
feminist is bad or good orwhatever, but just like you have
kids, you teach your child thatthere's personal space and when
someone says please stop, youstop, except in network
marketing.
What the truck is that about?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, it just feels like a waste of time to me.
Like you're running yourbusiness, you probably have
limited time because you'reusing this as a side hustle,
right?
Why are you spending it sendingthese messages where 90% of the
time you're getting no, all forthat 10% of the yes, when you
could be doing other things?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
1% is a yes, first of all.
Okay, 1%, 1%, guys, that'sreally in my little brain.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'm like, okay, I've got limited time, I am not doing
that and it's just gonna makeme feel like crap.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Exactly, and it doesn't make you feel like
you're a business person.
It makes you feel like you'rejust like.
The numbers game is a dangerousthing.
It's a numbers game.
It's numbers game.
You find your people, yeah, butit's not.
I would actually say that thosewho do that in business like
salespeople, who do that inbusiness are probably a rung up
(08:01):
from the hey girl messages,because the hey girl messages is
not just I wanna sell yousomething, it's I want you to
join my team and then I want youto go ahead and sell a bunch of
things that I'm gonna makemoney off of you repeatedly
until oblivion.
There's a lot of like ulteriormotive in that.
(08:21):
And listen, the industry great,but there's a way like it is
network marketing.
You need to network.
You need to meet people.
You need to be straight up withthem.
You need to not vomit all overthem.
All these things you want themto do and all these things you
wanna say.
Have a conversation.
Have a conversation.
(08:42):
Start by making do you likethis person?
Can you tell me how many peoplehave like done the hey girl
message?
And they end up with peoplethey don't even like on their
team.
That's karma, karma is gettingpeople on your team.
Taylor's team does words.
Karma is getting people on yourteam that you don't want
because you did the hey girlmessages.
Get it, get it.
I like this version.
(09:03):
That's Roxanne's version.
Thank you very much, but I justsomething to think about.
We could go on and on about heygirl messages.
I guess Should we go to thenext one we could.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Let's go to the next one.
Okay, and it is.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Joining before trying the thing that you're selling.
Oh gosh, I love this one, yes.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
And that actually kind of stems from like the hey
girl message, because thatmessage probably led that person
to join before you've beengetting the product.
And I was like wait you justtalked me out of a sale, but now
I'm selling it.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yes, okay.
But listen, I want you to knowwe're talking about the outs and
I always say these are thingsthat I've learned the hard way.
I came into this industrysaying, okay, I'm gonna be
coachable, I'm gonna just put mypride aside.
And they say this works, I willdo it.
So I want you to be clear aboutthat.
I am not just like I've neverdone this and I'm seeing these
(09:59):
things.
I've done it and I'm tellingyou, as I've gotten out of it,
of those tactics and ways,better ways, and so I say that
to you.
I joined before I tried.
I bought the big $1,000 kit.
Yes, I did.
I'm like, all right, I orderedto try it and I'm like, whatever
, I'll just order the $1,000 kitand try it.
(10:20):
Now, did I sell before I triedit?
No, I did not, but I did buythe whole.
Okay, I'll do this.
You joined, I did.
I joined before I tried, and Iwould tell you I wouldn't do it
again, because why would I sellsomething I don't believe in?
And I really thought, oh, Ibelieve in this.
(10:43):
And I went to a bunch of things.
I'm like, oh, this is gonna begreat.
But I didn't even try theskincare yet you believed in
yourself, yes, and I believed inthe people that, like the
present, like some of the peoplein the presentation and I've
talked with that I interviewedI'm like, okay, this looks, this
feels good.
However, these certaincompanies, like this great
(11:03):
example, certain companies willtell you after you've used the
product for 30 days, or afteryou've used the product for a
while, we're gonna send you areferral code so you can share
about it.
And to me, that is a moreorganic way because it's like
okay, I've had it for 30 days.
My security system didn't giveme my referral code to a certain
(11:24):
time.
They wanted to make sure I washappy before they're like please
tell the world about us.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yes, oh, I can't stand that when, like our
apartment was asking for us torefer people before we even
moved in and it asked me to givea review, I was like we didn't
even move in yet, like we'removing in next week.
This is odd, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, there's something about now, I realize,
because it's go, go, go andpeople are just trying to make
money, like really truly teams,or you're trying to grow your
team.
There's no time for that.
Come join us.
The thought process of evengiving someone hey, let's take
30 days, try the product andthen do it again and then join
(12:07):
Freaks people out because, like,what if I lose them?
What if they decide they don'tlike it?
Well, yeah, but if they don'tlike it, you don't want them on
your team.
Mm-hmm, they're not going to beyour best, best.
Some of the best people onteams are people who try the
product first.
For a while, experienced youand saw what you did in your
business and then said, okay, Iwant to do it Now.
(12:27):
I'm not saying you can't comein as a business person If
you're like coming in, I'mlooking for a business that I
want to do.
Great, try the product first.
Please Try it first, yeah.
So, try it.
And, importantly, it is onething for the person coming in
to decide, hey, I'm going totake a leap of faith and I'm
going to join without trying it.
That is completely differentfrom you encouraging them to
(12:51):
join without trying it, becausethat is where it feels very
weird.
They can make that decision ontheir own.
But when you're like, no, no,don't try it, just come on, just
join, you'll get the stuff thatyou're doing, and people are
going like that feels weird.
Think about it.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, it's weird.
It's weird to me, yeah, and wehave to think about the strategy
we're using here, guys.
So the strategy is that you'regoing to be selling this and
you're going to be growing onsocial media right, but the heck
are you going to talk about ifyou haven't used it and can't
endorse it?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Right, well, I mean, you're going to talk about your
journey, but then if you're like, by the way, this stuff sucks,
you got to say that too.
Yeah, you know, I think whatyou should think about as you
said you're saying, terrin,which is so great is that this
you can document your journey oftrying it, and you can even
(13:42):
save that content, if you wantto, until you start selling it.
And you have all that content.
It's okay to be 30 days or 60days or even a couple weeks
ahead of what you're postingonline.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yes, third one Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Next yeah, okay.
So when you were deciding whatyour keyword product is, when
you are making decisions foryour business, you don't have to
go to the bottom of the barrel.
A lot of people think, oh mygosh, I have to find the
cheapest thing because peoplearen't going to buy anything
expensive, and so I have to findsomething that is cheap, even
(14:20):
if I don't like it, even it'snot the best thing, because
people are telling me that myproducts are too expensive.
I hear this often.
If your products are tooexpensive, it means you haven't
given people the value, you havenot shown people the value.
I was walking through the malllast week.
No, well, last week, I rememberwhen my daughter was here and
we were walking through the malland we decided to walk through
Gucci.
There were a lot of people inGucci, gucci, there were a lot
(14:44):
of people in Gucci.
Okay, those people are alsopeople who are going to tell you
they can't afford your whatever.
Fill in the blank yeah, butthey're shopping at Gucci, not
window shopping, like we werelike, please don't talk to us,
we're just looking at things.
They were like legit buying,okay, they have the money.
(15:05):
They don't see the value.
That's the end of the day,truly.
But if you decide I have topick the cheap thing, then
you're not even doing it becauseyou want to be doing it and,
honestly, y'all at some pointpeople will not like oh, it's
like a, if it's low price andyou don't value it, that energy
is not going to be somethingwhere people are like I want to
(15:26):
buy it.
And maybe there's something tothe strategy of okay, I'm not
going to have as many salesinitially, perhaps, maybe.
However, because I'm choosing amore expensive product every
time I do have a sale, I'm goingto make a nice chunk of change
off of it versus having to sell20 of the little things to get a
(15:51):
nice chunk of change.
Yep.
I have to shout out to Kangan,which is a whole different.
Like Kangan water systems.
I'm seeing more and more peoplejoin them right now.
I think that's great.
Their water systems are like$3,000, $4,000.
They just sell the water system.
Yeah, you're like what I'msaying that people can't afford
my $200 routine.
(16:13):
Yep, people are buying $3,000.
And the thing is they're notbuying.
I mean, they buy and buy at oneother machine, but it's not
like they're like I need oneevery month and yet they're
having a sustainable businessbased on that.
I'm not saying you have to runand do that.
I'm just saying, with what yousell, with what your company
you're in, consider what is theproduct you really believe in,
(16:35):
not necessarily the one that'sthe cheapest.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, yeah, like, and I think we, when we were
planning on this episode, wewere talking about like nail
strips.
Like if that's not somethingthat you can get behind or
you're even really usingyourself, kind of goes with the
last out, it's gonna be harderfor you to sell, whereas if
you're super passionate aboutdrinking clean water, that's
(16:58):
gonna be easier for you to sell.
Even though the pricedifference is way different.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Totally and I think there is a change in the water.
Change in the water.
It's a way to water wherepeople are being more picky
about what they're buying andthey're willing to spend more
for the thing that they want.
They're not trying to buy abunch of disposable shit.
They're like I think it dependson the market.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But I see what you're saying because, like, I'm gonna
say, I'm gonna talk to myfamily like yeah, there's no
change in the water there, like-.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
No change in the water.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But is that the audience you wanna go for Cause?
Then they might buy from you aton one month and the next month
they're off on something else.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
weird, I'm not very loyal and we go back to.
We were talking about StanLee's last week.
Stan Lee is not the best cupout there, but man do I love it.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I saw the craziest.
This is such a side tangent,but I just need to talk about it
.
Like Stan Lee's is causing inschools, it's like creating
clicks and like hierarchies oflike who has the latest?
Like Stan Lee color and I'mlike how crazy is that?
Like your water bottle is nowdefining like your rank?
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's insane.
One of the reasons we haddirect TV was still giving us LA
news and not giving us, andthey couldn't change it and they
couldn't figure it out.
Stupid, anyway, yeah, but whenI was on the phone with them
trying to see if it switched,they had me do all the things I
did on my own before I called.
There was some news, somethingon the news about someone who
(18:34):
stole like 40, 50, stan Leewater bottles.
They were in there they'reprobably more in there in their
trunk when you saw them in thetrunk and then they had them out
on top of the trunk and Scott'slike if you're gonna steal,
steal something more valuable.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I'm like no way they can resell those things, yeah,
especially what if they were thepink ones, like, oh my god, you
got a million dollars in there.
Not really, but but they're not.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I mean, listen, you can't put them in your bag and
expect your bag to be dry, okay,no, but people will spend money
.
Honestly, I'm just saying likeI could probably get a less
expensive water bottle thatprobably would last me, would
probably more reliable, but Idon't care.
People will spend money onsomething they find valuable.
Just remember that Stanley'smaking a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Exactly, it doesn't need to be literally valuable
Like we're thinking, like, oh mygosh, like there's so much
about it's a social value.
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And we don't condone clicks in school.
Stop that.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Everyone should love everyone oh my God, Only if you
have five Stan Lee's you can sitwith us.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
And what are the colors?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You need one fabric color of the week.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Right, and is that a 2024 shade or is that a 2023
shade?
I need to know oh.
It's a thing I'm sure this onewas near and dear to your heart.
Number four posting yourpromotions Talk to us.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yes, so Gone are the days, you guys, it's out, it's
Gone where you can create alittle graphic on Canva or
Bettered, yet get it from yourupline of your promotion and
just post it on Instagram orFacebook, looking for five
people who want to try X, y, zand actually get a post out of
(20:19):
it.
I say a lot of it.
Oh yes, say a sale.
Yeah, it's Gone, it's a thing.
That's not how you sell.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I feel like we've said this year after year,
Ter-Bear.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
They still sneak in for those newbies.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
They do, which means someone still teach you them the
old ways.
You're right, so what's abetter way, my dear?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Well, that's a loaded question.
I mean, that's where you haveto listen to the whole darn
podcast, because we haveinformation about how to do it
on social media.
But you've got to show yourface, you've got to use video.
You're showing up in stories.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You know, yeah, don't think that.
You're like, you're not a swapmeet, what I will, you're not a
swap meet.
Do you remember swap meets Likethey'd be on Saturdays and you
go to like the Coliseum andpeople just sell a bunch of shit
.
It's like a garage sale.
You're not a garage sale.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Your social media is not a swap meet, oh my God, a
market, like they call them,like a market now, and sometimes
it's used and sometimes it'sold yeah, swap meets, where they
used to call them.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
You're not a swap meet.
Your social media is not a swapmeet.
Just consider that.
Spend a little more time.
It's a long game If someonedidn't tell you you out your
business.
This is a long game.
It's not a short game at all.
I got the coolest this is veryapropos.
I think I got the coolest voicememo from Nancy Wilde yesterday
(21:47):
and she was like she's touchingface with me, all these things,
and she's like I was thinkingabout you a lot and I just
wanted to tell you I shouldn'thave said her whole name, whoops
, she's got this upline it'slike a big, big upline in a
company and stuff and had comeout and said something to think
she's like okay, y'all, I usedto be identified in social media
(22:09):
as the company I was withbefore and now everybody knows
me for the company I'm with.
Now I'm realizing is what Ineed to be doing is creating my
own brand.
Nancy goes.
She's like I thought Roxanne'sbeen saying that for four years
and then her upline also saidy'all, I'm realizing that the
(22:30):
way right now to get morebusiness online is to have a
lead gen.
And she's like I learned thisthis weekend.
We need a lead gen and Nancy waslike Roxanne's been saying that
for four years.
She's like what the heck?
And she's like.
I just wanted to mention thatyou're before your time.
I wanted you to know that I waslike that is such a manifesto
(22:51):
compliment.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yes it is Right.
So you're saying you guyslisten to last week's episode
and this week episode and takeit to heart.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Take it to heart.
Take it to heart and binge thewhole series because it's before
it's time.
What can I say Before?
It's time I was like I'm like Ishould have cared before your
time in front of, and I wroteback up, I messed back up.
I'm like, yes, I am.
I was like I received that.
Yes, I am.
That was really cool, and youknow, and all the things.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
What's going on behind the scenes with you, my
friend?
I know wasn't that cool.
We are dogs sitting right now.
I'm home right now because wehave a doctor's appointment
today, but we have been dogssitting at a house out here in
Brentwood, tennessee.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is like35 minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
It's a nice neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yes, it's a very nice neighborhood and I'm in a big
house and at night I'm actuallykind of scared in the house
Because I'm like there's just somany places people could hide.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
You know, all the musicians are in that
neighborhood, in Franklin, soyou should be like who is there?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Are you there?
We're cold.
Yes, now that the snow and iceis melting literally, I pulled
in and it was just straight ice,because I'm like I want to walk
around a bit more and checkthis out and we're right by the
governor's, something which isfor those who know it's like a
really celebrity neighborhood.
It is, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I'm like I know where you are.
You can't enjoy it.
Live the life, Do your thing,Walk around with your Stanley so
they know you belong.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So they know I'm one of them, I know.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I know you know, ok, she has a Stanley, we're good.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
With my three dogs, because I brought my dog and
then I'm watching two dogs, ohand my two kids.
Yeah, I'm going to be a cipher,I'm going to be hilarious.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Definitely room for the Stanley in all those hands
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yes, yes and yes so that's us.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
That's about as exciting as it gets.
Oh, and today actually, I hiredI think I mentioned this last
week I hired my first actualbabysitter and she's coming
today, today is the first day.
Today is the first day.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Will you tell us on the Gram how it goes?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Maybe Only if it goes well, I haven't been doing much
on the Gram lately, where youdo your stuff Nowhere.
Nowhere.
I've been very private lately.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I don't know why.
I think we have shades.
That's normal.
We have moments in time wherethere's like that's OK, Nothing
wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah yeah.
It's one of those quiet whereI'm like I'm just not talking
about myself on social media,you don't have to Y'all, you
don't have to.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
You can take moments of pause.
You can.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And my business is still growing.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So just throwing that out there.
Her business is thriving.
Her business is thriving, Ilove that.
What can I tell you since lastweek?
I guess we were just a few daysago, so I went, I worked out.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Wow, Roxanne worked out.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Listen, listen, Linda .
It's been a while.
I worked out.
I did my yoga and my danceclass.
There were 43 people in thedance class, oh my gosh, and
they had a sub.
You know people will show upfor sub days.
I'm like, oh OK, we have adance community in here.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
We are serious about dancing Yep.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And then I went to the big kid Rick Check him out
on Instagram on Sunday morning.
But I was driving there.
I was like I had this epiphanyand I started a new Instagram.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I saw that last Was it yesterday.
I was like, is this a new?
I wasn't sure if it was real.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, I just started a new one.
It's real, it's called theValley Rocks, because this is
the Valley of the Sun.
And so I'm just, I'm going tobe not just I'm going to be
putting like different places, Igo and things as I reintroduce
myself and I fall in love againwith Arizona, my base of my
hometown.
So, back, what city are youguys in?
We're in Chandler, but it's thegreater Phoenix area.
(26:45):
So Phoenix, chandler, tempe,mesa, scottsdale, they're all
like right there.
Glendale, they're all rightthere.
So, yeah, I'm like I wasdriving, like, ok, I'm talking
to myself, my little main eventstuff.
I'm like I'm like Valley Rocks,ok, we'll start that.
And so I did.
That was kind of exciting,that's fun.
Oh, I like it.
(27:06):
Yes, and we have anannouncement.
Ok, I wasn't sure if we weresaying it.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, we got toinform.
That's what we do, right, weare in the words of Bravo.
I've been watching a lot ofHousewives.
We are taking a pause on thispodcast.
On the podcast there will be apause, not because we don't love
(27:26):
you, not because we don't loveeach other, just life changes
are happening rapidly and,frankly, you got a lot of great
shit to listen to in binge.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And you do and you really should.
You should, and you're stillgonna be on the gram.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Oh yeah, at Rocks, talks will be on the gram, and
if Taryn feels like talkingshe'll be on the gram too.
She might not feel like, whoknows, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I still talk to people, yeah, okay, well, she's
on the gram.
You can still DM me.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
DM slide into her Taryn.
So what do you do, dms, but notwith product that you're trying
to sell, or join your team.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, no, no, I don't have that belief.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, no, I'll still be on.
Please follow me on at RocksTalks.
I'll follow Taryn at at TarynSoa T-A-R-Y-N-S-O-W-A Dot dot
S-O-W-A.
I was like I know how to spellthis.
I got this girl T-A-R-Y-N dotS-O-W-A who has your name is
what I wanna know.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
There is a Taryn Soa out there already.
Yeah, dare they, I know, right,I thought I was like the one.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I'm not, seriously the two names are very unique.
Put them together and someoneelse has it.
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
It's Polish.
Well, I guess Taryn's actuallyIrish Soa's Polish.
I am Polish and they know Idon't know.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Follow us there.
You can follow Valley Rocks ifyou wanna see what's going on in
Arizona.
And also I wanna remind youthat you can still and
absolutely I'm still gonna bedoing programs for network
marketers and direct sellers.
That's still going.
Just renewing my pro.
If you're interested in somecoaching twice a month and then
(29:08):
also some group coaching twice amonth so we see each other
weekly, let me know.
But also if you just wanna getall of the things you're like,
oh, she has Legion stuff Ididn't know that just for us.
Or she has had a brand, you canget the entire, all of my stuff
and everything I'm making thisyear coming up for $117.
You can just get that atrockstalksco.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Hello, my eyes.
Literally, you guys, this is anamazing deal.
So if you're growing yourbusiness in 2024, you need all
these goodies Totally and thatincludes monthly templates that
are so you can do your stuffAnyhow.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
So just know that those are there for you and,
like I said, it's a pause.
It's not a goodbye, it's apause, pause, pause, pause on
the pod.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Let you guys catch up .
We'll catch up.
Yeah, figure out what the nextstep is.
Absolutely, we'll be back.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yep Right, you're not ahead, you're not behind.
You're exactly where you'resupposed to be and that's a wrap
.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Thanks for listening to another episode of RocksTalks
.
We would love for you to helpus get this message out to other
network marketers.
If you could follow rate reviewwherever you are listening to
this episode, we would greatlyappreciate it.
And hey, if this episode speaksto you directly, take a
screenshot of you listening onyour device and post it on
(30:33):
Instagram Stories.
Be sure to tag us over atRocksTalks.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Always remember you're not ahead, you're not
behind, you're exactly whereyou're supposed to be and we'll
see you next week for anotherepisode of RocksTalks.
I'll see you in tomorrow'sepisode.
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