Episode 73- All Time Anaheim Ducks Team!!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Hi, coming to you live from SanDiego, california, a stone's
throw away from Pechanga Arenawhere the AHL San Diego Goals

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play.
But don't worry, royallyQuacked fans, we have a very
special episode today that we'recalling the Making of the Duck
Dynasty.
Now on to who's going to beyour host today Cody Spink.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
What's up Ducks fans?
We got a special team here.
Other than the Royally guy inthe middle right there, we got
Adam Broll from the Patriotshockey, we got Kyle Carr from
Locked On Ducks and the legendhimself Doug Stolhan from the
Puck Podcast.
So we're all going to go overreal quick on who we'd have on

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our all-time Ducks teams.
But then we got to worktogether and make one team
together.
So tune in.
If you guys have any, if youguys are watching live, send in
your who you think you'd want onwhat line, what D pair or what
goal you'd want.
Put in the comments and we'llread it live.
So, all right, who wants to gofirst on their team?

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Or you want me to start it off Ican start it off.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I got some legends from guys that played with the
Ducks but were not maybe attheir best with the Ducks, but
certainly some guys that I thinkwould fit in well.
And if you're looking atall-time Ducks they fit in.
But we'll see if they make theall-time roster.
So the top line because we'regoing to give four lines of
forwards, three pairs of defenseand two goalies the top line

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has got to be, for my money,korea, getzlaff and Solani.
I think they're the best ateach position from ducks all
time.
And then when you get into thedepth it gets a little bit.
Some of the legends come intoplay here.
So I've got Chris Kunitz on thesecond line, left wing, and his

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center.
I'm going to go with Adam Oatesbecause he was one of the
greatest passers in NHL history.
I think he would even opt topass in a shootout situation.
The guy refused to shoot thepuck but was an all-time
playmaker, so loved him.
And then Corey Perry on theright wing, future Hall of Famer

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and still going strong somehow.
So third line I'm going to gowith.
We'll go with Yari Curry on theleft wing, again not a guy that
had his best years with theDucks but did play with them and
is one of the NHL 100 bestplayers of all time.
At center, I'm going to go withAndy McDonald, and then on the
right wing, I'm going to go withAndy McDonald, and then, on the

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right wing, I'm going to gowith Bobby Ryan, a guy that I
wish could have had a bettercareer in Anaheim and stayed
here for much longer, but stillgave me one of the greatest
moments of all time when hescored with another player's
stick and then showed it rightin his face.
That was an all-time moment.
And then for the fourth line,this was a tough one.

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I was going to go with SergeiFedorov, but I opted instead for
what I thought was the bestline in Ducks history, the
perfect line, and so I'm keepingthem intact from the 2007
Stanley Cup championship teamTravis Moen, sammy Paulson, rob
Niedermeyer that line could doanything.
And as a fourth line on anall-time team, I can't think of

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a group of guys I'd rather havego over the boards to eat up
some minutes and shut down.
Other teams play some physicalhockey and chip in the
occasional goal.
So there's my forwards Ondefense.
How you don't go with ScottNiedermeyer and Chris Pronger as
your top pairing is a debate wecan have when we get to the
other rosters, but that's mine.
And then a man near and dear tomy heart from uh.

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I was at the 2003 stanley cupfinal game against the devils
when he scored the only goal ofthe game in overtime.
Rousselin soleil, may he rest inpeace is on my second pairing,
along with francois beauchemin,the lefty that's going to
surprise jerome m McGinley witha left-handed punch and knock
him out.
And then a pairing that isprobably not going to be one

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that a lot of Ducks fans aregoing to be in love with.
On my third pairing, but CamFowler was great for a long time
and is still a good player.
He's there with Hampus Lindholmas my third pairing, so those
are two guys that I'm prettyconfident in in any minutes.
And then the goalie you got togo with JS Shigeru.
He's the only goalie to win aDucks Stanley Cup for the Ducks

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so far.
He gave up one goal in theentirety of the Western
Conference final in 2007, or in2003 when he won the Kahn-S
smite in a losing effort.
Uh, one goal.
The entire series against theminnesota wild is ridiculous.
And then the original duck.
Guillier bear is his backup.
So that's my team from top tobottom.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Uh, looking forward to seeing what you guys pick and
what we end up with all right,I'll go, I'll go next, like I
said I, I know mine isinteresting, but this is why I
like having you guys on here toum, help me, help us make a
better team all together.
So my line one of course, I gotthe the best duo in ducks

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history, solani and korea as thewingers, and then I got sergey
fedorov centering them.
And then my second line I gotcory perry ryan gets off and
bobby ryan trying to kind ofkeep the generation players kind
of together at the same time.
That's why I kind of came upwith that.
My third line I had curryruchin and andy mcdonald.

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And my fourth line I had theexact same fourth line as you,
doug.
So no, no difference there.
That was literally one of thebest lines and in duck history I
would probably have to say,like you knew, you, you were
what you're going to get out ofthem every game and you knew,
with them on the ice, youweren't't going to lose.

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So I agree with that.
My top pair for defense I hadNiedermeyer and Pronger.
Second pair, beauchemin andTrubovsky and third pair,
roussan Saleh and Josh Manson.
My goalies I mean I don't thinkanyone's going to disagree with
any of our goalies, and GiaChiguerra's starting is starting

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, of course.
And then gi bear, the originalmighty duck, is my backup.
That's my.
That was the team I came upwith last year.
So I, I, I can't, you know,that's my team.
So, um, adam, you got your teamum, unfortunately I don't.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
I was just kind of planning on putting the team
together with you guys, but arandom one for, like me line one
, though, is I kind of go alittle differently, because I
would probably put Andy McDonaldat centered, obviously, got to
have Paul Curry and Tame Salaniat number one, and I'd prefer to
kind of keep that kind of cuprunning team going together with
having Getzzlaff perry andprobably bobby ryan on the

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second line.
For me, like, have random stufflike that.
Um, as for like random dpairings, like I would kind of
keep oleg tevredovsky and russansoleil together.
They played so well togetherback in the you know the early
90s when the ducks were comingtogether and they were one of
the dominant you know pairs ofdefensemen that the Ducks have
had growing in that expansionera.

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It's like random stuff like that, but I mean as much as I love
Guy Hebert, I think I still haveto go with the—obviously I'm
going to go with Jager fornumber one, but I think I still
have to go with Jonas Hiller asnumber two.
They were just an awesometandem pair that we had
throughout the years, and Idon't know, I just liked uh
hillar's uh style of play, so Igotta stick with them, and that

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for me I don't make sure thathillar doesn't bring the uh
mustache helmet.
That thing is cursed, no no, no,no I I, I prefer that, uh, matt
black one with the gold cage.
I think that was.
That was the most clean, thatwas the most simplest look, but
I was like one of my all timefavorite helmets.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, I loved, I loved the mustache helmet, but
that thing was absolutely cursed.
Yeah All right.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
The only good thing about that mustache helmet was
actually having George Perosthere.
You know, keeping that mustacheon the ice.
That was about the only goodpart about that, right, yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
All right, kyle, you have your team.
Yes, I do, mine's going to be alittle mix.
I'm going to kind of thrust insome of the youth and the old.
I'm thinking if we're doing ayou know a battle against the
Kings over there with yourfather, we got to have a little
bit like.
I think it's going to be morein the modern game.
So my top line I'm going tohave Correa and Solani, of

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course, on the wings, centeredby Leo Carlson.
I think with that Finnish andSwedish blood up there, you get
a pretty good littleinternational mix going.
On the second line I'm going tohave Getzlaff centering and then
Perry on his right and TroyTerry on his left.
I think Terry's just such asolid player he can help those

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two and you know what Getzlaffand Perry can do together.
And then on my third I'm goingto have Ryan Kessler and then
Bobby Ryan and Ricard Raquel,and on my fourth line just
because in the modern day theseguys would destroy any line it
would be Rob Niedermeyer, ruchinin the center and Chris Kunitz

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on the left, and then for mydefense I got Scott Niedermeyer
and Chris Pronger, first pair.
Second, I'm going to haveFowler and Lacombe and then on
my third pair, beauchemin andManson.
And for goaltending, of course,jiggy, you got to have him as
your top guy, and then I'm goingto have Brizgal, I mean,

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freddie Anderson, freddieAnderson.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
So it sounds like we all have certain players in the
same spot, so this can go alittle better.
We already got some agreement,so I think we all are in
agreement on the wingers on thetop line oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Well, you know they're the only players that
have 100 points or have sniffed100 points in a season, so might
as well have them out there no,I.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
So we got that and I think we all had scott need of
our andonger are on the firstline, I believe too.
And then I mean I think ifanyone has anyone else than
Chaguer as a starting goalie,then I'd be shocked.
So, like I said, we gotagreements everywhere, so that's
nice.
Now we just got to put somepieces in the right spots and

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then I think this will be a realnice-looking team after we're
done.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Do we want to consider a fourth line of Stu
Grimson, george Peros, jaredBurnett?
That could just absolutely beatthe absolute living hell out of
any line that takes the iceagainst them.
They're going to play 30seconds each in the night and
they're going to get a game1,800 pims yeah, but they're

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taking the.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
They're going to get a game, yeah, but they're taking
the matt rempe, uh, playingtime right, but they're taking
three guys out of the game withthem, so I'm not against it.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
I'm not against that either actually right, that's
definitely a line I'd be.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I'd be terrified oh, I'd be terrified too and it's
going to protect the skill guys.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Andy mcdonald's going to have a lot more ice out
there to Solani and Korea.
There's going to be no moreGary suitors cross-checking Paul
Korea in the face Right,because those three guys, with
Jared Burnett, would leave thebench and and kill them right
there.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
So if we had that line, who knows if Scott Stevens
would have hit Korea?

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Right.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
A hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
He would have never gone off the floor on the board.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
No, I'd say, and I like the Ricard Raquel mention.
He's a guy that I think getsforgotten about how good he was.
I'm surprised none of usmentioned Peter Sikora.
He was great as a duck and as asniper on the wing, so that's a
guy that I might consider aswell in there.
But Ricard Raquel, I think getsoverlooked for his time.

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And Ryan Kessler, that's a goodpull as well.
He's a great two-way center.
I didn't like the way he leftbecause of the injuries and
stuff like that.
It didn't end on a good note.
He was very bitter, yeah, buthe was great while he was here.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
there's no doubt about that did you guys saw that
video of him catching a ball?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
yeah, throwing it back on the field yeah I deny
this ball yeah, no, he's still a.
He's still a great two-wayplayer man.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
He can catch it and throw it honestly, I I loved
having him and perry on the sameteam, where we had the two most
hated players in the league onone team.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I mean, there's something to be said.
Nobody hates bad players.
You hate a dirty player.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
You hate them when you're on a team.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
But you love them on your team.
But I'm saying around theleague you want to be hated, you
want to be the villain, youwant to be the people that have
the target.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
So I'm hoping the Ducks get back to that.
Everyone thinks I'm crazybecause I mean, I absolutely
respect the game of Corey Perry,but I do not like the man
himself.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Chris from Late Arrivals says I miss Ryan
Kessler every single day and hewas a guy that helped the
culture of this team.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
You know the Ducks need a guy like him right now
that refuses to lose and willbattle through injury.
He was limping through theplayoffs a couple of years and
just refused to come out of thelineup.
And as much as we may not lovethe, you know I don't know that
I want to go on a road trip withRyan Kessler or have him in
charge of my house while I'm outof town, but I definitely want

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him on my hockey team Absolutely, if we could have a black ace
on our defense.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
I think Kevin Bieksa would have been a good name to
mention too, because same thing,him and Kessler were in at that
same time and they were justtwo bullies out there.
They create a lot of cultureand, uh, I'm fortunate for them
in vancouver.
At the time they were togetherup there, but I liked them on
anaheim I'll never forget, uh uh, the superman punch oh yes the

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bx's superman punch that was.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
That was one way to do it, I guess.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, the one time Bieska took a face-off draw,
ended up with thatVancouver-Calgary brawl.
Oh yeah, he wasn't evensupposed to be the face-off guy,
but all right, let's start withthe first line.
So obviously we all have Solaniand Correa as the wingers

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Mm-hmm.
All right, we need to come toagreement on who's in a center
that pair I'm kind of on boardwith kyle with putting leo up
there.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
I mean I think that would be a fun mix.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Like you have leo, you kind of got his size, his
speed, his creativity, but thenyou have solani and korea.
That just could pick apart adefense in their passing.
I don't know, I think.
For me, I think Carlson wouldbe great up there with the top
line of Solani and Correa.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
I think we go back to what we saw with what worked
with Correa and Solani A guythat would go into the corners,
that would go to the front ofthe net and would play defense
because they don't, and that'sSteve.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, net and would playdefense because they don't.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
And that's oh yeah, oh yeah.
I think I think ruchin in there.
It's a perfect line.
It's kind of like the mohan uhpaulson niedermeyer line.
It worked.
That chemistry works.
So if that's your top line ofkorea, solani and ruchin, I
think you're going to be veryhappy and ruchin's going to be
picking himself up out of thecorner while those two guys
celebrate a goal over at the uhat the at the board.

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So I think that's a good line.
But I I want somebody that canplay defense, because I know
those two guys can't.
No, actually no I love that.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
I love that too.
I mean I remember watchingruchin when he was the you know
the captain and he captainedthat, um, those uh early teams
and he was always the man goinginto the corner and digging out
the puck, or he would be infront of the net uh battling uh
his way to put a screen, or yeah.
No, I'm kind of with you onthat one as well, like I, yeah,
I remember watching those in theearly, uh the mid 90s, late 90s

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, and yeah, I mean it was aperfect pairing, because ruchin
was that he was kind of thatunderdog that no one really knew
who he was or what he was doingthere, but he was the one that
was always in the middle ofeverything, even though that
Solani and Correa got the flashand the notoriety.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, ruchin was really the center that put all
that together for him and let'skeep in mind, the first thing
you do in a hockey game is win aface-off, and Leo Carlson
cannot win face-offs that's'strue, that's true, very true,
I'd say if it ain't broke, don'tfix it.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
So I would go with Ruchin up there as well, all
right.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
So we got Ruchin up there Perfect.
Honestly, that's such a greatpull, doug, that was probably,
like I said, probably one of themost consistent lines.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, that was a great line for a long time for
the Ducks All right.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
so we got our first line.
I figured that wasn't going totake long.
We only needed to find oneplayer, and we might as well
find the perfect person thatplayed with them and looked
perfect with them, Right.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
I was waiting for the Ruchin Steakhouse.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, it was Ruchin Steakhouse.
All right, line two how do wewant to start?
Who do we want centering thissecond line?
Do we want to go with ElCapitan Ryan Getzloff to start?

Speaker 5 (18:15):
I mean I think for me it's a no-brainer.
He's obviously a top six centerand he's got the 1, thousand
points, most points in the Duckshistory.
You gotta like Getzloff's playand he's someone who can win
face-offs.
It just expands that depth.

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I don't think it would be goodto have him on a bottom six line
.
That's my opinion.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Are we all in agreement?
Getzloff has the two C.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, I think the second line is almost the same
as the first line, in that youhave a pairing of Getzloff and
Perry.
It's just finding who's goingto go with those guys, because
that again was a pairing thatworked so well, helped win a
Stanley Cup, was unstoppable fora decade in the NHL, and that's
a wide mess with chemistry.
That is already proven.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Well, we mentioned it earlier, Ricard Raquel was a
pretty good staple with thoseguys.
When he was with the Ducks hehad some pretty good points.
There's that comeback onCatella, maybe recency bias, but
I feel like he's got some goodchemistry.
Since we're kind of going downthat path, yeah, we can also go.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Bobby Ryan, he had good chemistry with them too.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
That's what I was thinking.
I was thinking Raquel or Ryan,one of those two.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I'm fine with either one.
What do you think, Doug?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
I like Bobby Ryan on that line.
The chemistry when they wereyounger worked well.
Ryan's a physical player, alittle bit of a bull, more than
Ricard Raquel as well, so I likethat.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Those three are pretty good.
Do you have a coin, cody?
We could uh flip a coin here.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
I'm good with keeping Bobby Ryan on that one because
like, even even doing that one,uh, you kind of almost think
like maybe if you go on like athird line, that's when you
bring in raquel.
But do you bring him in, like,do you put sergey fedorov with
fedorov with raquel, like havethat kind of little dynamic
going and got to figure out youknow the left winger to go with
him.
But yeah, I think bobby ryansticks with the, the young crew

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of the uh of the 2000s era wecan go with.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
So we're all in agreement.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Uh, bobby ryan yeah, yes, sir all right third line.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
How do we want to start this one?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
I'm gonna propose something real fast, just that I
was thinking of as we weretalking about the combinations
and pairings and and who goeswell together.
I'm swedish, I got a little bitof swedish blood in me and I'm
saying with all swede linericard raquel, leo carlson and
sammy pulse, or, uh, jacobsilverberg oh, I'm surprised

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silverberg didn't make any ofour.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
That's very sweet of you.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
How sweet it is man how sweet it is.
That's a sweet.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
I don't hate that line at all, I don't either, I
mean either I actually have theswedish ducks hat somewhere
around here, oh nice so with theyou guys

Speaker 5 (21:10):
want to make that our third line yeah, I like that
all right I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Is that, is that a good enough line to be the third
line?
I mean?
That's definitely a solidfourth line.
Yeah, really like in theall-time greats with you know,
with everyone that we have theaccess to.
I would think that would be aperfect fourth line.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
There you go, that's fair that's fair, because, as
much as we love the moen paulsonniedermeyer line there are,
there's meat on the bone rightnow sammy or andy mcdonald,
chris kunitz, both stillavailable and those are guys
that might be a better pick forthe third line.
It's a good point.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
We could do a Kessler .

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Kunitz and Poulsen Kessler isn't is a tempting
option and he's a perfect thirdline.
Center on it.
Yeah, I just you know you'retalking about healthy Kessler.
Yeah, Adam, who do you got asthe wings on that kind of a line
If Kessler is your third linecenter.

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You're looking for skill or areyou looking for a little bit of
two-way play?

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Kind of two-way play on it, Like the bottom six.
You kind of want a little bitmore of that two-way play.
Obviously, like the top six,you're looking a little bit more
flash.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
See if we got Kessler on the wing or center I mean,
do we want to bring back thecogliano silverberg kessler line
?

Speaker 4 (22:31):
I mean I I absolutely love cogliano.
I think he was one of the mostunderrated ducks.
I mean, the man had speed, hehad that grit everyone wanted to
.
He had no problem mixing it up.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
But I'm right on the pk?

Speaker 4 (22:41):
yeah, absolutely so.
Yeah, cogliano, I don't knowwho would be.
I don't know the other way,maybe a troy terry he's pretty
solid.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
He's definitely like you were talking about someone
who goes in the corners, doesall the right things.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
I'm gonna throw out a name of a guy that I loved and
he's not an all-time duck, but Iloved him and that was mike
leclerc.
Yeah, jerky was just a good guy.
That's a good fit on that kindof a line of uh, he could score
every now and then, but he wasjust a him and kessler together,
would they?
There's nothing they would backdown from.
Those are guys.
I mean, this is the jersey I'mwearing for a reason I love, I

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love the jersey, I love that Ilove that hair of ducks, oh
that's, I can't stand thosejerseys.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
I was going to say I'm pretty sure that was rated
the ugliest jersey.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yeah, exactly, I thought it was the.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Wild Wing, one that was rated the worst.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
I saw something with that one.
That is the worst the Wild.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Wing is the worst.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
That's one of my favorites.
That's one of my favorites.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
No, that is the worst .
That was absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Everyone thinks I'm crazy because I like the Anaheim
black and purples.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I liked it at the time.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
I liked it at the time, but now I'm like it's two
kings looking the first thing.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
I can think of is Corey Perry, and that one had
the modern day patch for us.
The modern day patch At the endyeah.
Modern day.
That's the I would if Kessler'son there.
I mean we still have Fedorov,we still have Curry, we still
have a lot of veteran players.
Still got Adam Oates too.

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If you're building for a, yeah,if you're building a rugged
third line that can go out thereand shut down what's going to
be another team's top line on anightly basis, kessler is a
great start.
I'm not sure who you put on hiswings, but that's a great start
.
It's just a defensive center.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I mean, we still got Curry Kunitz, Rob Niedermeyer,
andy McDonald, travis.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Wood.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Todd Marchant for wingers Marchant.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Niedermeyer.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Still got Silverberg Raquel.
Yeah, that's true, the blackand eggplant jersey inspired the
later rivals logo pretty nice.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
well, I think if we do that swedish fourth line,
that would kind of cross themoff.
But if we had, I don't know, Ido love cogs hes.
He was the Mr Iron man, exceptfor George Peros, yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Do we do, do we?
Kessler Cogliano?
I just had a third.
Now, that went right out of mymind as soon as I started
throwing that together, kunitz.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
I was thinking Kunitz .

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Kunitz on the left, and then.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Or do you go with?
Do you mix and match a littlebit and go with?

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Rob.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Niedermeyer, I was going to say Travis Mullen,
travis.
Mullen and Ryan Kessler isanother tough line, yeah, tough
pairing, I think Moe's got thatchampionship pedigree.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
Yeah, he shows up when you need him.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Well, what if we did him Andy McDonald and Cagliano.
Add some scratch Kessler.
Yeah, I don't know Idonaldbetter than kessler.
Well, mcdonald's a winger.
No, andy mcdonald was a centerhe was a center.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, you can play.
He played him at centerguarantee he was a center yeah,
I wouldn't be angry withMcDonald and Kunitz as a pairing
and then finding Chester to thefourth line he was a left wing
center yeah, moving.

(26:56):
If Kunitz and McDonald are yourthird and then your fourth line
can be basically what thetraditional third line is so
what are we doing for the thirdline?

Speaker 5 (27:06):
I say we go with that McDonald and Kunitz and we'll
have Cagliano.
Yeah, yeah, those are three.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Those are three tough guys right there.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
And then you're basically your PK's set right
there.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
McDonald.
And what was the last one again?
Kunitz McDonald.
And Cogs Cogs K's set rightthere McDonald's.
And what was the last one again?
Coon, it's McDonald's.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
and Cogs Cogs.
Yeah, then we take that lineand then just put Progner on
there.
Yeah, there's our PK line,right there.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
Put Justin Bieber against him.
He'll be smoked.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
All right, and then fourth line.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
As much as I love the Swedish line, I still love the
Moen Paulson Niedermeyer.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
How do we go wrong with that one?

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah, Throw them in there, I'm with that.
The Swedes can be the blackaces Yep.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Who centered that line?
Again Paulson, paulson, paulsonand then Niedermeyer.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
And Moen Guys.
We forgot Nathan Ballou.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
He was a defenseman actually.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
It's a name I haven't heard in a while.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
I'm just glad nobody brought up Jeff Friesen F, that
guy.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
I tried to forget that name, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
All right, we got our forwards, so we got.
This is what we have.
Line one Solani, ruchin, correa.
Second line, perry Getzloff,bobby Ryan.
Third line, kunitz, mcdonald,cogliano and fourth line, moen
Paulson and Niedermeyer.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Sounds pretty solid to me.
That's very solid.
I'm happy with any line that'son the ice at any given time.
Yeah, I'm happy with that tooAll right.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
First pair for defense I mean do we?
Go anywhere other thanniedermeyer and pronger no, okay
, no, I was gonna say I would becurious to see what anyone, oh
god, no that's gonna, that'sgonna go with the peros and
Clemson.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
No, no, no, I got it.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Boyu and Jacob Larson .

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Oh boy, oh God, yeah, I'll take a Kevin Shattenkirk
and Jason Marshall, I'd ratherhave Shatty than Larson.
Freddy Oleson, the smilingSwede, always smiling after he
got beat for a goal all right,so we got nidermeyer.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Pronger is the first pair, second pair where do we
want to go?

Speaker 4 (29:55):
I don't know.
I like tabardowski and soleil.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
We'll just go with the classic I mean, what do you
think, doug?

Speaker 3 (30:04):
I'm not a Tavardowski guy.
That's not my no.
I personally I wouldn't havehim in my defense, but that's
just me.
That's my vote.
I love Soleil, obviously.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Convince me, otherwise, then I mean, I
definitely want Soleil.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Soleil and Fowler.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
I mean there's Enough guys.
I think Soleil and Beaucheminto me is a tough pairing, but I
get the offensive upside ofTevredovsky.
You need somebody that cancontribute a little bit more
offensively, even though you'vegot two studs in Niedermeyer and
Pronger that are going to carrya lot of that.
But I don't know.

(30:42):
There was just something aboutTavardowski's game that bugged
me for a long time, so that maybe a personal bias.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
What about a Beauchemin-Hampus-Lindholm line?

Speaker 5 (30:54):
I'm the same way as Doug is for him.
That's how I was for Lindholm.
I couldn't handle Lindholm'sbody language and his antics.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, you know there's a guy that we haven't
mentioned that goes way back.
Keith Carney was a studdefenseman a long time with the
Ducks and he wasn't a two-wayguy, but he was a very solid
defensive defenseman and for asecond pairing if you wanted to
go with him and Saleh would be arugged second line big.
I don't know how well they'dhold up to today's game foot

(31:26):
speed-wise, but in the gamewhere you could clutch, grab,
slash, hook and cross-checkthose guys were very good, so
their penalty minutes will begood, and Sean O'Donnell, of
course, helped us win a cup.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
Unless you want to go off the wall and go with, bring
back was it Jason York?
I do not want to my goodness, Ifigured that one would throw
someone.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, is that Cam York's father father oh, I hope
not for his sake because, yorkwas a anaheim based player.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
He grew up playing here, so that could be.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
That could be.
Now, the other guy that alwaysI always have a soft spot for
because of the cup run and howwell he did everything kind of
the routine of defenseman wasjoe depenta.
I loved, I loved that guy.
He was just he.
He focused on one thing andthat was defense get the puck
out of his own zone and that'sall he cared about.

(32:30):
And he was very good at it.
But I don't know if he's on anall-time team, but I definitely
wanted to mention him as justbeing a guy that is always going
to be a legend for the Ducks.
Yeah, soleil is a staple.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
On the second pairing , we know that it's the who goes
with him question Would werather have Beauchemin on the
second pairing or his thirdpairing?
I feel like you've got to haveFrancois.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Oh for sure.
I think he's on the teamno-transcript.

(33:24):
A good player for a long timein this league I mean.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
So that was a slay and trev.
They played well together, if Iremember right.
Right were they.
They were a pair right.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
I mean that was the same era, so I don't know how
much minutes it's been longenough that I can't remember how
many minutes they had together,but they were definitely same
era and probably similar on theline at the same time.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
I know they played together at times.
I don't know if they were anactual pairing together, but I
know they've shared the icetogether.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I don't know why the second pair of defense is the
hardest one to go for.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
It's hard with only 6D and there's so many classes.
We haven't even mentioned JoshManson.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yeah, I mean, did we throw out Bobby Dulles?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
I mean Shea Theodore, too soon oh boy.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Too soon Doug, too soon, brandon Montour.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
If.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Theodore actually would have played one game.
I would have considered him,but since he didn't, it's kind
of hard to he played.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
Did he?
Yeah, he had a season.
Yeah, he had a, he was like amain staple.
He was like one of our bestdefensemen in that one playoffs
it was between him and man, oruh montour, for the vegas like
giving up whatever it was wherethey like retained him, they
retained montour instead.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
It was because I think vegas was like oh, we want
um, was it botan in?
Yeah, sammy yeah, and andthey're like no, we want to keep
botan, and so we'll give youtheodore, and, and that's why
Vegas took Clayton Stoner.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
And I think I was just so bitter on that trade I
forgot he even played.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
No, he was like one of our best defensemen.
He was scoring quite a bit ofpoints for us in that one
playoff year.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
Look at him now.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, now he's a Stanley Cup champion with Vegas.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
That's what happens when your GM is literally an
alcoholic.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
I was going to say we could make an all-time Ducks
roster of players who left andbecame Stanley Cup champions.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
We'd have a whole roster there.
Just watching this last year'splayoffs, it was like every game
involved at least five formerDucks.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
I got it Homegrown too yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
They'll look great.
Yeah, sam Steele's coming uphuge.
What the hell is that?

Speaker 2 (35:50):
He can only score six goals for the Ducks, but
everywhere else he goes he canget double digits.
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Yeah, they can get double digits.
It's crazy.
Stefan Nason suddenly is a studplayer on the bottom six.
What's going on here?

Speaker 2 (36:02):
All right, so we have Soleil.
Who's his pairing?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
I would vote Beauchemin, but that's a
personal bias against him.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Yeah, I'm good with Beauchemin.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
All right, we'll go Beauchemin Francois.
A bias against him.
Yeah, I'm good with bushman,all right, we'll go bosch.
Good old frank, all right.
Third pair d so we still gotman faller and manson, fowler
manson the only other names Iwould throw out.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
There would be lindholm, who kyle uh, doesn't
like he took.
He took a parking spot fromkyle one time and he hasn't
forgotten.
Yeah, literally I know.
But kevin bx has another namethat kyle brought up earlier.
That is a?
Uh, he was a great defensemanfor the ducks as well and, like
I said, sean o'donnell was.

(36:56):
It was fantastic for the ducksfor many years.
And, uh, you go back to theoriginals.
Keith kearney, um bobby dallasthere's some names from the the
way back, but uh, all time Idon't know.
Manson is pretty damn solid I.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
I was very upset when he left the team.
That was that was a tough onebecause I thought he was some of
the ducks really could haveused through all of this, but
good for him for getting his cupyeah no, they, as we talked
about the defense of formerducks around the league, if you
just re brought them back.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Manson montour, theodore lindholm, fowler I
right there is an insane defenseif you're playing them right
now.
So, it's a shame that they letthem all go and don't have a lot
to show for it, but I'm happywith what they have going
forward right now.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
I know this is a name we haven't said yet.
Vatali Vizhneski, vitalyVizhnevsky, vitaly.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Vizhnevsky Vitaly.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
I see him every day at the rink.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's terrifying.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
I'd put him out there .
He might punch me next time Isee him.
Why didn't you put me on your?

Speaker 2 (38:12):
team Rip me in half.
I'm just like, look, I'm likewow, that's someone else we
haven't said yet yeah, in half.
I'm just like, look, I'm likewow, that's someone else we
haven't said yet yeah, yeah, hewas a good one.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
We could go with a Russian combo of Tverdovsky and
Vishnevsky, just some old school, that would be good.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Bring some heat.
They get stuck out there withour fourth line, people might
cry.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I'm crying just watching.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
I don't, I don't know , even having just vitaly and
fowler, I think that would be aninteresting combo to have as a
third pairing yeah, I feel likefowler deserves a spot for what
he put up with and howproductive he still was.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
I think we're doing him a disservice if we don't
have them and honestly, lookingat the guys we picked, we need
somebody that can contributesome offense.
Put them on the power.
We've got four defensemen, oror.
The second pairing is not goingto contribute a lot.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I don't know, the bush bomb is pretty nasty it was
, it was, it was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
But uh, I mean Niedermeyer pronger are going to
be.
Those guys are going to beplaying 25 minutes a night.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Oh, easily, easily, if not 30.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
And they're still not even sweating Right.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
And that's yeah, that's a great.
So the other two lines areplaying 10, 15 minutes and give
you a great.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
So we're doing Vitaly and Fowler.
As the last pair, I'm good withthat.
Yeah, those are two ducks.
I'm glad I was like, look, I'mlike who else played defense for
the duck?
And I was like, oh my God, howdid we forget him?
Yep, All right, starting goalie.
This is going to be thetoughest one of the night, yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Let's see who do we got.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Who's that?
Chad Johnson.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Well, I got his glove right here, jason.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
LaBarbera.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Let's go with my boy Jason LaBarbera.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
I'm ready to go.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I can't remember his first name, oh, mikhail
Stelenkov.
Do we have a guy?
Gerber Martin, gerber Martin.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Gerber.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Gerber, baby Martin Gerber, martin Gerber.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Geez, that's a Gerber baby, I know, yeah, yeah, no,
we've had some incredible.
The Ducks have been very lucky,I guess, really good at
drafting, developing andretaining talent.
Yeah, from day one.
And you look at teams likePhiladelphia and Buffalo, that
are struggling to find a goalie.
You look at teams likePhiladelphia and Buffalo that
are struggling to find a goalieand man, the Ducks have always

(40:40):
even the years of.
You know Jonas Hiller, andthere was a guy I'm blanking on
his name Victor.
Fasch, victor Fasch, yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
He was another one.
Thank you, Chris, from latearrivals.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Yes, that was another guy.
Good contribution.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
Should have been on the pod with us.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Good contributions Should have been on the pod with
us.
He was another guy who justcame in and gave him solid
goaltending for a couple years.
I mean, freddie Anderson cameand went and has had a great
career since then.
But yeah, obviously it's JSJaguar, the greatest duck of all
time, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Whose number should be retired.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
by the way, one of my , favorite JS Jaguar moments was
his little PR thing andGetzloff was in practicing.
And this is after Jaguar hadleft the team and he came and
took Getzloff's car andcompletely moved it.
Getzloff comes out and justpissed like where's my car?

Speaker 4 (41:38):
It's like a lambo or something completely gone oh,
that was one of the greatestpranks ever I gotta find that
video.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
I gotta re-watch that one.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
I remember that, though that was oh just watching
, gets off, just lose his mindof thinking his car got stolen
at the ring was the greatest.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Every security guard got fired that day.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
You know there was that one security guard, so
worth it.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Right, you just see the guy.
He's just counting the hundredsthat freaking Shigeru gave him
to not Just counting.
It's all there, alright.
We just need a backup goalienow.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I picked.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
Anderson because he had the highest save percentage
of all Ducks goaltenders.
But he was a flash in the panwhen he was here.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I mean, we all had good backup picks when we all
set our teams, but we just gotto work together and find this
last one.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Did you guys all have Guy Hebert?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I had.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Guy Hebert.
I had Hiller, I had Hebert.
Yeah as well.
Hebert is just literally theoriginal duck.
It's where it started.
The first guy and he was agreat goalie on some really bad
teams, my goodness.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
I heard he's pretty good with the media too.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah, what's he doing these days?
We don't hear from him veryoften.
I know it's a shame.
Would love to have himincorporated back in the Ducks
family.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
He looks great for a guy that is his age.
He looks fantastic, I do havehis autograph, though he's one
of the nicest guys too.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
He'll come and talk to you after, like they do their
their segment.
He'll come and talk to peopleand yeah, I've seen him at the
rink.
Super nice guy love him.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
I've told this story on the puck podcast many times
but uh, when I was working atfox sports in the late 90s, the
uh national sports report was onfox sports net back then.
The National Sports Report wason Fox Sports Net back then and
we had a cameraman that did notknow anything about hockey and
the talent gave a highlight ofthe game.

(43:47):
I think he was I forget who Guywas playing for at the time and
he said the name Guy Hebert.
And the cameraman looked overto me, who was working to his
left, and said Guy Hebert, and Isaid no, no, not a Guy Hebert.
Cameraman looked over to me whowas working to his left and
said gay bear, and I said no,not a gay bear, he a bear.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
but his confusion of just gay bear are you allowed to
say that on air.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, guy's name is gay bear a bear no, no I had a
friend that said that they werea ducks fan.
I was like I'm like, and I waslike, really, who was the first
pick?
Like, oh, guy herbert.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
I'm like, yeah, you're not a fan they're a fan
that's red, you know yeah I waslike, yeah, you're not a fan
yeah, but I mean even justthinking about, like a lot of
the guys that came through theduck system at some point or
another.
I mean you got Ron Tugnaut thatplayed with the Ducks.
I mean Anthony Stolarz was agreat backup to Gibson for years
and look what he did in Floridaand Toronto.

(44:49):
I mean you got Ryan Miller.
I mean there's a lot of guys.
I mean Chad Johnson had acouple of games played.
Chad Johnson had a couple ofgames played.
You know, obviously Gibson is upthere.
Victor Fosh, you know there's alot of like solid goaltending
talent that has come throughAnaheim or even started in
Anaheim.
It's kind of hard to reallypick that backup outside of

(45:09):
Shigeru, because I mean Andersonis having a great career, so
he's one you could look at.
Like I said, Hiller's anotherone having a great career, so
he's one you could look at.
Like I said, Hiller's anotherone.
I mean a bear is just you knowthe, the duck that everyone
thinks of.
You know right, like I mean youeven had, you know, Anton who
dobin.
Like it's kind of hard to thinkof Thomas Hodges and

Speaker 3 (45:30):
let's look we didn't go with that, uh, that goon line
on the fourth line of paris,peros, and uh, grimson and
burnett.
So maybe we go a goon, a littlebit of a goon, with our backup
goalie and go with ray emery,that man loved to fight.
That man loved to fight, loveto drop the gloves had the

(45:51):
boxers on the helmet and, uh him, him on the bench would be
policing things.
He'd had no problem gettingthrown out of a game as a backup
goalie leaving the bench.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
We're also forgetting someone that was at both Duck
and King, but his time with theDucks he got us into the
playoffs with Jonathan Bernier.
Yeah, I'm not considering himas the backup, but I'm just
saying that's another.
His time with the Ducks waspretty good actually.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
I mean out of that list.
Ryan Miller, I feel like is onethat deserves, and Brian not
necessarily an honorary cup, butthat guy having to be stuck in
Buffalo and how much effort andhow well he played, it breaks
your heart that he didn't havethe success that he he deserved.
But talk about someone likewhen miller was in net.

(46:41):
You're like, oh we're, we'resolid, we're good.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Yeah, he was a uh, he was a fantastic backup I loved
his attitude too.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
Like he's just a funny, like just a great guy.
I see him at the rinks as well.
Uh, just a cool guy.
He's's a straight-up hockey dadnow.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
Honestly, I'm good putting Ryan Miller as the
backup to.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
JG, I wouldn't mind that.
Done Solid gents, don't forgetOli Erickson Eck.
I knew every time he startedfor the goals I'm like, oh, we
lost.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
Well, I mean Anthony Stolarz.
That guy's always looking good.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Stolarz, I don't know .

Speaker 4 (47:24):
I met Stolarz a couple of times when he was with
the goals and he would come outto Ontario and I would talk to
him.
You know, goalie to goalie andI don't know I'm a little biased
towards him, but I mean he'slooking.
He looked really good backingup Brobroski in Florida and he
had a hell of a season withToronto.
I mean hopefully it only getsbetter for him.
I mean it also helps whenyou're 6'6 off the ice and then

(47:46):
what like 7'5 on the ice Massive.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
I'm glad we have Dostal, though, instead of him.
Yeah, dostal, much betterchoice.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I mean, gibson is another guy that deserved better
from the ducks and yeah, yeah,but my goodness, what a battler
for so many years and, yeah, thelast time he was the last duck
remaining that knows what it'slike to play in the playoffs
with anaheim.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
So like when his trade came around and stuff he
there's a lot of hands beinglike, well, he's injury prone.
All this stuff I'm like becausehe was saving 50 pucks a game,
yeah, he'd be injured too youwould.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
You would think that the way the ducks overused him.
You would think he played 82games a year, seriously, for
like eight years and I think hegot injured.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Someone ran into him this year like people were just
like bulldozing.
Yeah, there was no protectionone game where he was just
getting hit like the whole game.
I'm like if I was on thedefense I tell you I'm I'm
beating up those people that arehitting my goalie that's why
they went and picked up truba.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
They're like what is our d doing, bro?

Speaker 2 (48:54):
truba.
Truba was on the team throughthis was going on.
I was like, come on, you got toprotect your goalie.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
It's an unwritten rule Don't touch the goalie.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
Yep, ray Emory would have taken care of that.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Gibson had a hot streak too, man.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
He tried to have a couple goalie fights.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
I was there at that, king.
I'm never going to forgivethose refs for ruining that
goalie fight against the Kings.
That was so close I was thereand it was my cousin's first
ever hockey game.
Oh geez yeah, and I just seeGibson skating to the center.
I stood up.
I was like, oh my God, I wasfreaking out.

(49:37):
I'm like I'm going gonna see agoalie fight live and the refs
ruined it like I'm like I'llnever.
Those refs will forever be onmy shit list I remember I was at
the rain game.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
I had the ducks game streaming on my phone and I was
like I was more interested in myphone and like oh, they're
gonna do it like everyone'slooking at me, it's like the
game's not that exciting.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
This one is it's like intermission at the rain and I
was like, oh my, all right, sowe got our team.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Now let's go over it again.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
So line one solani, ruching korea.
Second line, perry gets offbrian.
Third line, kunitz mcdonff-Ryan, Third line
Kunitz-McDonald-Cagliano.
Fourth lineMoen-Paulson-Niedermeyer, First
pair defense Niedermeyer-Pronger.
Second pair Saleh-Boshamon andthird pair Vitale-Anne Fowler,

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and then starting goalie Chiguer, Back up Ryan Miller.
That's a solid team.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
I like it.
Yeah, dude, do we say that?

Speaker 5 (50:46):
that team competes with the 80s oilers.
I mean, we have that yeah, ifwe're as drunk as bob murray,
sure?
What rules are we?

Speaker 4 (50:54):
playing as you know, in thes.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
They're going to get their asses kicked.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Oh yeah absolutely.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
In today's game.
I think I like our chances withthe speed and skill they're
looking a little FloridaPanther-y yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
If we're going to go back to that, we're definitely
going to have to get that AstuteGrimson and Peros lineup.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Oh, that might be the top line yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
As long as Ross Johnson stays away from this
team, I'm happy Come on.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
Right, you'll have to make a graphic and send it on
over, cody, because that'll be.
I can't even remember what wesaid just now.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I got to save it, I'm excited.
I got to save it right here.
I got it all written down.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
I can text it to you Perfect.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yep, yes, send it saved right here.
I got it all written down.
I can text it to you Perfect.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Send it to me too.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
We still need to come up with a power play unit and a
PK unit.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
One or two.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Before we do the special teams, let me throw out
something that Cody didn't askfor but I'm going to do anyway.
That's the trade deadlineacquisition.
That's Steve Thomas, Because hewas the greatest trade deadline
acquisition the Ducks have everhad.
He completely changed thatseason.
Stan Chistov became a greatplayer with Steve Thomas.

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He was lights out for him forthree months and then we never
saw him again.
So I remember him fondly.
But I loved Stumpy when he gotback.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Definition of a rental.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Yeah, perfect rental Someone else.
That was good after we pickedhim up, but then he was just
injury prone right after was.
Oh God, I just had the name andit left me.
We got him from Dallas.
Oh God, what was his name?
I had it it.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
Then I lost it you know who we forgot?

Speaker 1 (52:42):
oh uh, patrick eves I was gonna mention eves earlier
and then he got.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
He got sick, yeah, yeah that was a great trade
deadline pickup.
He was so good for us afterthat and then, yeah, he, just he
.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
Then he just wasn't on the ice after that anymore,
but that was just such a greatpickup at that time he had like
a disease, like something withbalance or something.
It was, yeah, rare disease.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
I remember going to uh, I went to a ducks practice
as member of the media, not, Ithink, the following and he was
out there and he came outafterwards and I was getting
ready to.
Oh, patrick Eves is on the ice.
I was getting ready to put iton and they asked me not to
because he was not going to playagain and they knew that.

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But he was just going out thereto try and stay in shape and
keep his spirits up, that he wastrying to fight back, but it
was really tough to see him, uh,because you could see the
spirit was willing but the fleshwas just not there for him,
unfortunately that was a becausewe had Eve's and Kessler.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
Both basically went down like at the same time and
there was so much promise withthat him gets off Kessler.
Like you were like we havethese three solid staples right
here and then they just wentlike that yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
That's.
That's one that you wonder whatif?
And that same thing with thewhat if Niedermeyer and Solani
don't fake retirement afterwinning the cup?
I mean, we love them both, butthey killed the ducks the next
season and that was brutal, wasbrutal.

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So those two are the ones thatI just wonder.
I think the Ducks could havehad multiple cups if those two
things don't happen, because,yeah, those perfect fits.
And, uh, that 2014 year is onethat I still lament the the
Western Conference final againstNashville.
That was was such anopportunity.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
So, close.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Was that 2014?
2014, we lost to LA.
Or was it 17?
Or 16.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Wherever it was when we lost in the Western
Conference Final to thePredators.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
That was brutal Because the Penguins won the
Stanley Cup that year, whicheveryear it was.
The Ducks were loaded.
I want to say it was brutalBecause the Penguins won the
Stanley Cup that year, whicheveryear it was.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Was it 16 or 17?
The.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Ducks were loaded.
I want to say it was 17.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
It was after the comeback on Cotella.
Yeah, and we thought they weregoing to go and then they choked
.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
I was like 14,.
We lost to LA.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
Yeah, the game seven.
I just talked about that withEddie.
Oh, there you go.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
I talked about that with eddie.
Oh, there you go.
Yes, I talked about on another,uh, on another pocket.
I think it was later rivalswhere I told him that after that
, with my one guy said f salaniand my dad's like get the hell
out of my house.
My dad kicked him out of thehouse after that because I was
devastated because it wassalani's last game yeah, and
stuff like that.
He was like yeah, that guy.
And then my dad's like get outof my house you don't say that.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Yeah, although although the uh, the end of the
regular season 2014, the lastregular season game, solani's
last home game in there andjaguar, that was one of my
favorite moments I still don'thistory when solani and jaguar
made the victory lap one lasttime.
I was at that game and loved it, Loved it.

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That moment needed to happenand I'm glad it did All right,
let's get to the special teams.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
Andre Kosher oh, not that special If we're talking
about special teams.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
I guess Ross Johnson should be on there too.
Yeah, that's another callbackright there.
Yeah, when?

Speaker 5 (56:32):
he was on the ice, he was great.
When Exactly?

Speaker 4 (56:34):
2016-2017 was the conference finals yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
I hate that still.
Yeah, yeah, all right, powerplay one.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
I'm still bitter about New Jersey in 2003 same
again.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
That's why I hate Jeff freezing see it's funny
like when people like nowadays,like I still figured in my eyes
as a longtime ducks fan, I stillconsider the red wings as a
rival just from all the playoffappearances against them I think
everyone considers the redwings but like.
But the ducks and red wingsalways had great playoff series.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
That's why I was rather bitter when Gibson went
to Detroit.
I was like why, like pickanother team, I would have been
okay.
But you know you send Gibson toDetroit.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
For me it's like Detroit, chicago and Nashville.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
Like Eddie and I were talking about it and we're like
it's crazy how the Kings andDucks have only met once in the
playoffs and that was that 2014.
And it's like, because we weretalking about the rivalry and
whether it's good or not, and Iwas telling him I think there's
more bitterness between san josethan the kings at this point,
it's more the fans that arerivals than the team.
Yeah, but it would be nice tohave them in the playoffs

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against each other.
Yeah frigging.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Eddie tortured the locked on San Jose guy by
bringing him on and then talkingabout that, I'm like, wow,
that's pure torture, that'sEddie.
But Eddie cracks me up though.
I like how he always, wheneverhe brings up our podcast, he's
always like yeah, the father's aKings fan, the son he's
something else.
It cracks me up every time Ilisten to it.

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It's hilarious to me.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
I don't like the kings at all.
I don't watch the kings.
They don't exist to me.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Unless the ducks are playing them, I don't pay any
attention to them back to backthis year but I hate the golden
knights oh, that's yeah it's myson's favorite team and it kills
me the only reason I somewhatpay attention to the kings is
just because I live in sanbernardino in ontario is right
down the street, so I haveseason tickets to the rain

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because it's local hockey and ofcourse I support the goals
every time they come in.
But that's about the onlyreason I, you know, pay
attention to the kings, and it'smore their minor league system,
because I'm there two or threetimes a week.

Speaker 5 (58:59):
Yeah, the amount of times I've had to hear we got
Marner from my son, you aregrounded.
Turn the Xbox off.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
I think it's time to teach your son what a throat
punch is.
I'm sure he knows.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
I changed the one by password.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Speaking of which, we never mentioned Wild Bill
Carlson, the guy that did Forthe Duck.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
They won.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Did he play really any?
He played one or two games.
No, he played more than that no.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
He played a decent amount.
He was a trade trade, right.
Yeah yeah, he wasn't part ofthe OG OG.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
No, no, he was a good player, but I never would have
thought he would become what heis, you know.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Oh, the what?
20 games or 40 games looks likearound 40 games yeah, I wasn't
when.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
When he left, I wasn't like, oh my god, how did
we let that guy go?

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
but yeah, that's why I'm not a hockey scout all right
, for the third time we need apower play unit all right, I'm
going pure talent.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I'm going korea gets left solani.
I like a distributor, I liketwo finishers and, uh, that's my
forwards.
And then, uh, if you don't haveneither, my pronger.
I don't know what you're doingon that power yeah that's that's
two.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
So we're doing three, two, or we're not gonna do four
forwards and one defenseman Idon't know how you take nita
meyer pronger off the ice yeah,I mean, I mean progner had that,
you know, that massive slapshot that definitely got him a
lot of goals, or at least gavehim the rebound.
And you have, uh, gets offthere in the middle to, you know

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, battle it out and pick up thatrebound.
Yeah, like it's hard to takeNiedermeyer and Progner off
because I mean Prognertechnically is going to be a
little bit more offense thanNiedermeyer.
But then you definitely haveNiedermeyer's that stay-at-home
defenseman to back up just incase something were to happen.
I can't argue with that powerplay right there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Yeah that's a stall unit From the point and you got
two guys that will bedefensively responsible and
Niedermeyer can track anybodydown.
If somebody gets loose goingthe other way, he'll definitely
track them down.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
I'd say he could play a five-minute power play and
not get off 100% 100% and stillnot break a sweat.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Yeah, All right.
Pk unit.

Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
I like Pagliano and Boshman.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Wouldn't it pretty much be our fourth line with
Moen Poulsen?

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Niedermeyer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
That's not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Moen, poulsen Niedermeyer.
We probably need two and twohuh, but Poulsen Niedermeyer.
We probably need two and twohuh, but Paulson Niedermeyer.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Unless we put Cagliano in there, because
Cagliano is good about gettingto both sides of the ice,
especially with that speed.
He can always get back and helpout the defensemen.
So I mean I'm trying to thinkof who do we take out in that
third or that fourth line?

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
well we need a center .

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
I think you need Paulson, so I think Paulson
Cogliano is a pretty good comboas well because you need a
center yeah, mobility and anddefensive responsibility so I
mean Paulson, soleil, cogliano,I don't know who.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Who do we put fourth?

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
It'd have to be Well, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
I was going to say I like Boshman as a killer.
He was always solid.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Yeah, or Pronger.
Honestly, that guy is going toclear the crease, that's for
damn sure.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
So we want to do Pronger.
Yeah, Pronger would be goodyeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
You guys want to do a second units too?

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
let's take a look, yeah, you can't you can't?

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
yeah, we got that.
Go right ahead.
All right, power play unit two.
What do you guys want to gowith?

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
well, who's your center?
I guess it's mcdonald, I guessit's andy mcdonald and, uh, cory
perry is probably the yearother forward yeah net front
presence do we go younger andbring in troy terry?

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
well, troy terry's not even on the team is did you
is raquel on the roster.
No, okay, so we could probablydo Bobby Ryan?

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Yeah, put Ryan Perry and McDonald.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Perry McDonald.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
Who are?
Their defense defense yeah,fowler and uh screw it, let's
break in.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
Cogliano dude, we'll do a four and one for the pk or
pp2 what's the who's the otherforward?

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
cogs, who's the other forward?

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Foggs.
Well, we got Kunitz as well,yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Kunitz yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
I mean, who's the sniper on that group we?

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
got Perry or Ryan didn't.
Mcdonald have a nice shot onhim.
Yeah, he did.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
Ryan had the skill, though what I was thinking of
having Ruchin just stay in.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Didn't McDonald have a nice shot on him?
Yeah, he did.
Ryan had the skill, though whydo I think you're?

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
having Ruchin just staying in front of the goalie
the whole time yeah, that didn'twork out for well.
Is Ray Bork on the ice?
Because that was the start ofhis depression problems?

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Or just put Sean Avery.
I just saw that video of SeanAvery just in front of Broder.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Well, if you got Ruchin or Perry I mean Perry's
become the perfect net front guyat this point.

Speaker 5 (01:05:10):
He's always been the worm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Yeah, yeah.
So Perry McDonald, ryan Kunitz.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
Who else we got on D other than Fowler?

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
We still have Soleil Bolshaman and Vyshensky.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
I mean it's got to be a 4-1 at that point.
Yeah, yeah.
I think you might even moveFowler to the top line to make
Niedermeyer the one, becausehe's a rover on that second one.
That could be the all.
He can do, everything ondefense and Fowler gets shots

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through.

Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
That's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
So you want to switch .

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
Yeah, switch.
Fowler gets shots through.
That's a good idea.
Yeah, so you want to switch?
Yeah, switch Fowler for lineone.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
So who am I taking off of line one, Pronger
Niedermeyer.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Niedermeyer down to two.
Yeah, put Niedermeyer power,play two.
Yeah, because he's a perfectdefenseman for a 4-1 system.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
Who's our third?

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
line center.
We have McDonald.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
And he's already on the power play.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
We were considering him for this one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
It's either Kunitz or Cogliano to go with Ryan
McDonald and Perry.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
I think Kunitz had more offensive to his game than
Cogs.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
I think Kunitz would be a little bit more solid.
I like Cogs as a killer.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
We already got Cogs on the PK1, so do we want to
overuse them that much.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
I was just thinking Cogs, because he had that speed
to get back and help defense ifneeded.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
We got Niedermeyer for that now.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
That's true.
I think Kunitz would be solid.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
I'm good with Kunitz on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Alright, second PK unit.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
It's got to be Soleil Boshamay on defense.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
I would be surprised if we Saleh's already on the
first pair oh, well, thenVishnevsky and Boshamay yeah,
and Tali and Boshamon and thenthe two forwards, who was the
first two pair, cogs and paulsonthen we're going mo and

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niedermeyer and niedermeyer,yeah mo and niedermeyer yeah
yeah, I'm good with that becauseyou know know Rob's going to do
his business.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
And if we need an empty netter, Rob Niedermeyer's
our guy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
As long as it's not Ryan Strom, he can't hit an
empty net to save his life.
It moves.
I could have swore it moved.
I wanted to talk.
I missed an swore it moved.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
I'm wanting to talk.
I missed an empty net the otherday.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I have never played a single second of hockey, so I
could probably miss horribly.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
I had a chance at an empty net one time.
I dumped it in the corner andwent for a change.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Yay, there you go, Left left.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
The only opportunity I've ever had at an empty net is
I was in high school and I wasa goalie and I slung it down the
ice and I hit the outside ofthe post.
The worst part was I startedcelebrating because it looked
like it was going and it kind ofslowly tapered off.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Now we just got one big question who's going to
coach this team?

Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
Joel Quinville.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
I can tell you who's not going to coach it Greg
Cronin.
That is damn correct, dallas.
Eakins Greg Cronin is not evenallowed in the arena.

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
Oh man, His postseason quotes had me dying.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
It was everyone else's fault, oh yeah, Well, I
mean the Ducks have had somegreat, some great great coaches,
but I want nothing to do with alot of them it sucks that randy
carlisle was the the stanleycup champion, but I would not
want him back.

Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
No, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
There's one name that comes to mind for me that
doesn't have as much controversyas the ones that took us to the
stanley cup is, uh, bruceboudreaux.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Yeah, you can't go wrong with him, but we're not
going to win in the playoffswith him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
That's true, we're going to be up 3-2 and lose.

Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
We'll win a Reds eating contest, but that's about
it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
He's your regular season coach, and then you
switch him out.
You fire him at the end of therace.
I wouldn't mind that, so we'llstart with Boudreaux and then.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Quenville will take over after that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
You know I've been saying teams bring in a few
years bring in a playoff ringer,head coaches, a coach ringer,
he.
He dealt a lot with theexpansion and the early ducks.
But I mean Ron Wilson was apretty solid coach to get us
where we were.
I mean, imagine if he actuallyhad the talent to go with it
where he could have led the team.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Yeah, he got the capitals to a stanley cup and,
uh, that was not a very goodroster.
So you put him with this roster.
I think he'd do good things forsure.
So we're gonna go with ronwilson as the head coach yeah,
he's pretty medium there yeah,he's at least not a he's at
least not a rectum Like some ofthe guys we got in our coaching

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history.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, Carlisle got us
the cup.
I mean Boudreaux did a solidjob in the season but he could
never get the playoffs going.
But I imagine, if you actuallyhad, you know, Ron Wilson with
this, this talented roster, Imean I could only imagine what
he, Ron Wilson with thistalented roster.
I mean I can only imagine whathe could have done as a coach,
especially, I mean, with what hedid with the Capitals and

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getting them to the Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Yeah, that expansion year.
That team was terrible, yeah,and they played very well on the
ice and that was a lot of RonWilson and Guy Hebert.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Yeah, all right, and just for the hell of Ron Wilson
and Guy Abert.
Yeah, alright, and just for thehell of it, we can have fun
with it.
General manager, I mean, do wepick Brian Burke?

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
I'll drink to that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Burke-y.
I feel like he would probablybe the best pick for this.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Oh yeah, there's no doubt.
I mean, that's another guy thatI a.
What if, yeah, yeah, what if hedidn't want to spend more time
with his family?
Wink, I mean, what an absolutefor a guy that had as much, uh,
as much character and preachedas much accountability as he did

(01:12:25):
.
What an absolutely chickenbleep way of going out, man,
just lying to us for months, andwe all knew the toronto job was
available.
Just be honest, right, there'san original six job I want to
take that they're going to payme more.
Okay, nobody's going to blameyou, but come on, man.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
Well then, kyle Dubas did the reverse.
He's like oh, I want to spendtime with my family out of
Toronto and then went toPittsburgh.
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
And look how well he's done there.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
I mean, do we just go with Brian Murray as our GM?
Oh gosh.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
There'll be a rise in vodka stock.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Yeah, that's true, not Bob Murray.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
Brian Murray.
Oh, brian Murray, sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
Yeah, I know because Brian Murray is the one that
he's the one that was there whenwe went to the three.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Yeah, so do you want to do Brian Murray or Brian
Burke?

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
No, burke is the guy to me.
Yeah, brian murray is a veryunderrated and forgotten man in
ducks history.
Yeah, that, that o3 combo ofhim and mike babcock were
fantastic he could be theassistant.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think bob murray's I think bob
murray sullied brian murray'sreputation, right, bob Murray
sullied Brian Murray'sreputation.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
I mean, I like this team, that's solid.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
I'm anxious to see what they do in the simulation.
I hope they do well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
I hope we do well too .

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
I mean, we don't have any Gretzky's or Robitaille's,
but I think this is a prettysolid team we gotta get shut
down for that yeah, we gotplenty of people to shut down on
that well, but how many timeshave they put like an all-star
lineup together and then thelineup fails because they're not
used to playing together as ateam?

(01:14:16):
At least with the ducks, I mean, we have what two, three lines
that have, you know, actuallyplayed with each other and
produced so I mean, mean, Ithink the chemistry is going to
look better.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I think the only line our forward lines that didn't
play together was maybe ourthird line with did Kunitz,
mcdonald and Cognao ever playtogether?

Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
No, no, Cognao didn't play.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Other than that I mean we had probably one of the
best first lines in Duckshistory with Solani, ruchin and
Correa they played together.
Perry gets off, ryan theyplayed together.
And our fourth line was one ofthe best bottom six lines ever
and, like I said, our third lineis the only one that really
didn't play together, but wemade it so.

(01:14:59):
That way they'd be all.
We think their chemistry wouldwork well together yeah and then
we got Niedermeyer Pr.
We made it so that way they'd beall.
We think their chemistry wouldwork well together, yeah, yeah.
And then we gotNiedermeyer-Pronger as our top
pair.
I mean, come on, yep.
And then the way we made ourdefensive pairs, we put like a
good defenseman with a goodoffensive touch to it good
chemistry there.
And then we got Chiguerre andMiller Yep.

(01:15:22):
So we may not have the bestplayers, but I think our team
will work together really well.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Oh, there's no doubt, the chemistry is there.
That third line, that's thebottom shelf line man, those
guys cannot.
They're not tall, but they aregood players.
Kunitz, McDonald and Caglianoare top little bastards.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
Go ahead.
No, go ahead, Kyle.

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
I was just going to say, and we have all of our
lines.
We have success in differentgenerations too, so it's not
like old school or only newschool.
It's a pretty good fluctuation.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
Yeah, no, I was just going to say I mean, it's like
with us, it's almost like youknow the great Herb Brooks
saying it's like you don't needthe best players on the team or
the ice, you need the you knowthe right team.
And I think we actually havethe right team.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone.
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
You know what would be an interesting thing?
Cody is picking the oppositesquad.
We pick the Kings roster, theypick the Ducks roster.
They have to be players thatplayed for each team, but you
pick the worst possible lineupfor each team.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
That would be a fun simulation Great idea.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Yeah, I love that idea.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
That would be a fun simulation right there yeah,
that would be hilarious, weshould definitely bottom of the
barrel yeah, they're definitelygetting sean avery on their top
line oh god.

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
Speaking of sean avery, he has a cameo in the new
happy gilmore right next tochris chileos yep, yeah, that
was a great great I loved it itwas good yeah, like I said, it
was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
It was a bad movie, but it was funny that last part.
I was like I, I was like, okay,I'm just gonna go back to
playing the game on my phoneit's.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
it's not as great as the first one, but it was a
solid seed, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
It's a lot worse.
I listened to quite a fewhockey podcasts, like Empty
Netters.
They all did reviews on it, butno one talked about Sean Avery
or Chris Chelios being in it andhow all of Happy Gililmore sons
were named after hockey playersyeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
Well, I thought it was like because I've been kind
of following golf more recentlythan late and it's, uh, the
amount of like actual real lifeissues that have happened in
golf that they like hadcallbacks to were hilarious.
That had me crying, laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
They did good with that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
I was cracking up over that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
I did top ball for the first time last night I
broke a club.
I hit it so hard I think thebottom of the club went farther
than the ball.
I could have swore because wecouldn't find the club.
Because I swung and I was like,wow, this thing feels light.
I looked and I'm like, oh shit,yeah, I hit more grounders than

(01:18:32):
anything else than line drives.
It was so sad because I finallyfound that three wood that I
was actually hitting line driveswith.
After the fifth swing, that'swhen it snapped.
I was like line drives with andafter the fifth swing, that's
when it snapped.
So I was like, all right, well,there goes my night.
But it was so much fun.
I will definitely do that again.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
If you want to have a fun time, cody, we got the
Patriots hockey fourth annualgolf tournament.
It's going to be out inTemecula September 21st, I know,
but why are you going to do itin the?

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Duluth area.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
There's no cell service in that area.
I was just up there yesterdayfor work, so it's so you get
disconnected.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
So, by the way, when you're going down rancho
california, adam I don't know ifany of you guys are also marvel
fans when you're on ranchocalifornia, look to your left
and you'll see the hulk at oneof the houses.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
Oh, nice Really.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Dang, he has like a jet.
It's like an Airbnb kind ofhouse.
They're actually one of ourcustomers for propane.
That's the reason I know.
And yeah, if you look to yourleft, you'll see it, what's the?
Address Real quick Little docs,yes, but yeah, you can see the

(01:19:48):
buster suit just out there inthe open, nice dang looks cool.
I was like I want that before Icould fit it into my little
chevy malibu.
Then I could probably take ithome with me.
Just tie it down on the roof.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Yeah, I got my dodge ram, I can carry it.
There we go I'll try to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
I'll try to be a golfer.
I mean you're not that, it'snot that far from me, so I'll
try to combine.
I'll cause chaos where you uh,you're with your stuff, like how
you cause chaos here I don'tknow we were.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
We were floating around the idea maybe having you
and your dad come out and it'llhave to be a pre-recorded show,
but maybe do like a, like aspecial, royally clacked out
there on the golf course and Iwould love that interview the
hockey players, the golfers, allthat stuff.
So something like that might befun.
I'm down.
I mean kyle, if you guys wantto come out and do that as well.

Speaker 5 (01:20:38):
I mean I got, yeah, I'm getting just just the caveat
I do play for guardians, so Idon't want any any trouble there
.

Speaker 4 (01:20:46):
It's like I said before.
It's like we've had our issuesin the past, but a lot of us
have gotten over that and pastthat and a lot of the issues
that were there have beenremoved from both organizations.
So, no, I I don't have anyissues.
There's still a lot of guys onthe San Diego guardians that I
love and you know hang out withregularly.
Like in three weeks, theweekend of the 22nd, they have

(01:21:10):
the the state classy tournament,the three on three.
I mean I see a lot of theguardians guys that's.
I mean that's why I got my my,my dim bums, a classy Jersey on
today, nice, yeah.
So I mean I'm going to see alot of the guardians guys excuse
me, from San Diego out thereand it's always a good time.
I mean a lot of us have made upand you know hang out over the

(01:21:32):
years.
It's just, you know now it'sjust kind of that fun little
rivalry of guardians Patriots.

Speaker 5 (01:21:37):
Are you guys going to do the Vegas tournament?
During veterans, which there'sa ducks Vegas game that weekend
too in Vegas.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
I know I I'm hoping, I'm hoping the schedule actually
works out, Cause every timethat I go out to Vegas with a
cause, I'm with the LA Patriotsteam.
Every time we go and there's ahockey game, like they schedule
us a late game.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
It's like really right in the middle of it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:03):
Well, when did we find out?

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
about the Kings roster.
That'll be next week.
Okay, I'll have a battle royale, a little battle royale.
I don't know how I'm going tosimulate it.
I hope I can find a way,because the person that reached
out to that did it last year forus.
His Instagram is no longer auser.

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
Oh, I tried looking it up and gone, so I was like,
oh, that's great a rough spotyeah, I love to look my, my son
and I have on NHL 25, we'vecreated the entire 2019 NHL
roster, at least based off oflike what rosters we could find

(01:22:50):
when all through create a playerand of course I am the one who
has to do the footwork and doall the the build and find the
face and find the hair and thesize and everything.
But, yeah, we've done like theentire league we've replaced
into the 2019 roster.
That must have taken a while.
It basically like months, oh, Icould imagine because, like,

(01:23:13):
that's what we did last week.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
We did the.
What if the nhl did a marchmadness style playoff tournament
?
Yeah, oh cool, yeah, so I, I,so I'm actually surprised nobody
really guessed before, because,adam, you were tuning in, you
were listening live andeverything, yeah, and I was not
expecting.

(01:23:35):
I know it's going to be aspoiler for some people, but
it's been out for almost a weeknow, but the Wild won the whole
thing.
Dang Never would have thoughtthat it's all about one game.
Yeah, what I did was I did it bydivision.
You can only do 16 teams in aplayoff format on NHL 25.

(01:23:56):
I played the number 8 versusthe number 1 in the Metro, then
just did it for each division Ithink it was the one in the
Metro Then, you know, just didit for each division.
I think it was what the wildone, the central Seattle one,
the Pacific the ducks, didsomething that Kings can never
do and beat the oil.
I was cracking up that the ducksplayed Oilers in the first

(01:24:18):
round and then beat them in thefirst round.
I was like, hey, we didsomething the Kings couldn't do.
And then the Kings and thefirst round.
I was like, hey, we didsomething the Kings couldn't do,
and then the Kings lose toSeattle.
And then was it, tampa won.
And then I forgot who won theMetro, but, like I said, it was
fun.
I think it was New Jersey wonit.

(01:24:38):
Nice, so it was a fun thing.
Because I came up with thatlike right around the March
match.
I was like, huh, I wonder whatif the nhl did like that kind of
tournament that'd be a lot offun.
Yeah so.
But I know you and doug, youguys are doing that all draft.
Uh, if teams only kept theirdrafted players, that's a great.
I had that idea.
I was like, I was like how am Igonna do that?

(01:24:59):
Then you guys are doing like,oh, that's how you do it, okay,
yeah it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
it shows which teams draft well, whether they retain
the players or not, which teamsdraft well and which teams don't
, and some teams do not.
San Jose is not a good team atdrafting players, my goodness,
but the Ducks have one of thebetter rosters around the league
.
I got to say Like league.
I gotta say they're like I said.
their defense alone is elitewell, it was what that the blues

(01:25:25):
had a good team there wasanother one you had another one
that was oh, utah had a reallygood one too utah, the, uh yeah,
going back to arizona,obviously, but dallas is good,
uh, chicago pretty good,winnipeg surprisingly good, yeah
know, edmonton not good either.

(01:25:45):
They got obviously the best twoplayers in the world, but
beyond that not a lot with theamount of first overall picks
Edmonton has had.

Speaker 5 (01:25:54):
It's terrifying how not well they've drafted well,
that's.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
The other thing that it shows is that I'm going to
try and remember this when wecome around to the draft lottery
again and the ducks are in.
It is that it's.
It's not so much about whereyou draft, it's having a good
scouting staff.
There's good players alwaysavailable and, if you can,
obviously you want to have yourchoice and be first overall.
But uh, the ducks have donevery well with some picks later

(01:26:19):
in the pick I mean, look atCoreyry was not anywhere near
the top of the draft, but he'sthe longest player yeah, my god,
he's been outlasting the 2003drafts for, yeah, I got my uh, I
got my dvd right there of the2007.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
in the cup and he's still playing he's he's kind of
like left.
He's like the tom brady of theLright now.
Not with all the stats.

Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
I rewatch that on YouTube almost once a month,
just to feel something again.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
I always do the 2003 and then the 07.
Because as a kid I used towatch the 03 one all the time
too.
So every year I usually watchit at least once a year.
I watch game five.
I watch it at least once a year.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
Yep, I watch Game 5.
I watch Game 5 every now andthen.
I'll never forget I was in abar in Rancho Cucamonga watching
Game 5 shortly after comingback from the military and I'm
the only one watching the TV,cheering, and everyone's looking
at me like I'm crazy.
It's like hockey Hockey's onLike the Ducks are winning.

Speaker 5 (01:27:23):
What's this sport with?

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
ice.
Are those weapons?
What, what?
What are they skating with?
No, uh, but this.
This was a lot of fun.
I'm glad we didn't go threehours this time yeah, that was
yes.

Speaker 5 (01:27:37):
My eyes were like I have to.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
I was, I know, I was like, and I got to edit this.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
Even just listening to it later, like is this almost
done?

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
I was just like this at the end of that and just
passed out, but I really likeour team, though.
I really like our chances.
You guys have anything else toadd with this team?

Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
not with the team.
No, actually here's a betterquestion.
Now that we're all here, sincewe're putting together this all
time rostered team, what uniformset up do we go with?

Speaker 5 (01:28:19):
Doug's jersey.
I love it, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
I love it, it's the.
Og's we got the old school WildWing breaking out of the ice
and we got the reverse retro ofit boom.

Speaker 5 (01:28:39):
I'm okay with that one it's hard to get away from
the original, though that wasjust the cleanest sweater you
could possibly have in theleague.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
I mean I love the OG whites.
I wasn't a big fan of theeggplant, though.
I just love it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
I love the eggplant.

Speaker 5 (01:28:58):
We could do the OG whites and then the new homes.
Or what if we?

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
go back to the 25th and then the new homes?
Or what if we?
Just what if we go back to the25th and bring back the black?

Speaker 5 (01:29:07):
Yeah, that was a great one.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
There's so many people that it's like a huge
controversy is the 25thanniversary Jersey?

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
That was my favorite.
The only thing controversialabout that was the logo.
No, I would say it was the, the, the teal.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
controversial about that was the logo.
No, I would say it was the teal.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
It should have been more jade than teal that was a
licensing issue.

Speaker 5 (01:29:34):
That color is still owned by Disney and they cannot
use the same color.
That's why it took us this longto get the rebrand.
It's because it was stilllocked up with disney and now
this like statute has ended, butthat's why we had to add the
eyebrow and the mean eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
I love the orange eye , though.
I think that was a great touchto that yeah, yeah they.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
They had to do a.
What is it?
I think it's a 10 change to notbe copyright infringement.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Good old disney, yeah yeah I like the uh I like the
one that's behind adam there asthe uh the white jersey, and I
like the one cody's wearing asthe the dark jersey, because
we're playing the kings.
They're going to be black,they're going to be silver and
black.
So get some orange on there tocontrast and piss them off.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
I could see them.
I can't remember, was it Eddiethat said no?
I could see them pickingknowing my dad, eddie, and then
Kevin that's going to be on nextweek.
I could see them picking theform blue and gold jerseys,
always a possibility.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Probably the old-timers are going to pick the
classics definitely old timers,for sure.
I gotta dig at your dad when Ican.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
I'm always up for that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:57):
I was going to say just looking into the future,
when they finally do a new thirdjersey for this new branding, I
would love to see basicallylike the 25th combined with the
orange of the new jersey, like ablackout version of the home
jersey, because I that's I likethe black and gold and orange of

(01:31:20):
like the web d but I hated theweb d.
But if they did a kind of ahybrid of like the black, gold
and the the new uh logo, thatwould I think that'd be a solid
third jersey so almost almost dolike the, the reverse retro 2.0
, but make it black and add alittle orange.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
Yeah, like, and instead of the teal it'd be
orange oh no, the the, theorange and the white and orange
reverse retro that we had ohyeah yeah, yeah, that one just
but black yeah yeah, well, Iwould love that have you?
Uh, have you guys ever seen thelady ducks black jersey that
they have?

Speaker 5 (01:31:58):
yeah, well, it was.
It's the triple a and the ladyducks, they the whole Junior
Ducks program for Tier 1, theybrought out these new jerseys.
I thought that's where theDucks were going to go with this
new rebrand.
It's like orange and black andthen they have the white and
orange.
It's pretty clean.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
Yeah, I like their all-black one, but I think they
need to add little white into itor something.
It just it seems too much justthe black and the orange.
Yeah, add a little bit like awhite striping or something that
I think it would be a solidjersey yeah, I wouldn't mind
doing something like with the30th anniversary too.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
You know, maybe just doing an updated logo on it it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
What if you do a reverse retro on that?
Do you like the teal with theblack on the bottom?

Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
Yeah, there you go Something like that.
That'd be pretty clean.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Chris from Lit Arrivals, Black third, and then
an eggplant heritage jerseywould be complete.
A perfect uniform set, in myopinion.

Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Yeah, all right, all right.
One last jersey question Forthe Ducks' current away jerseys
do you guys want them wearingthe white helmets or the orange
helmets?

Speaker 5 (01:33:11):
I like the orange.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
I could go either way .

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
I go either way I don't like it with the home
jersey.
I like black with the home.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
I like the orange.
I think the only thing theywould need to switch is maybe go
to black pants.

Speaker 4 (01:33:27):
Yes, yes, I have been an advocate of that since the
beginning.
I think everything is too muchorange, especially home and away
.
Just make a black pants, breakit up.
I think it'd be so much better.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
I think with the way, keep it as is, just have the
orange helmet, and then for thehome, keep everything the same,
just black pants.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
What about you Doug.
Orange helmet.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
I like the orange helmet and orange pants on the
road, and I'm good with blackpants for the home, as well, I
think I agree Because, honestly,after seeing Ross Johnson
johnson play, I just call himthe human traffic cone, because
that's just what he looks likeout there.
Um, literally a pylon, yeah,literally a pylon.
So but like I said, I I likethe orange.

(01:34:16):
I don't mind the alt, the wholeorange.
It looks great on the ice andeverything, but I think it does
need just a little more contrast.
I think the black pants.

Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
But I'm also weird on it too, where I think, even if
you keep the current setup athome but switch it to a white
helmet, it might just be enoughof a contrast to stand out a
little bit more.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
You just can't do white helmets at home because
usually the weight teams arewearing white helmets, I know.
And then, chris, I still wantto see the orange matte helmet
that would be great, that wouldbe nice.
No, orange chrome, we wantorange matte.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
I want orange chrome, just to bug you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
No, you want it to bug my dad more, because my dad
hated the chrome thing for theKings he hated it.
The Kings should just adaptthat forever I do miss those
like king's jersey.
I like those, except for thechrome domes, but those jerseys
I liked, honestly I feel likethe league should just go to

(01:35:17):
matt black.

Speaker 4 (01:35:18):
I think it's so clean yeah yeah I mean, I patriots,
we have a all black jersey thatI went and bought the matt black
helmet from the ontario rainsale just to have with it
because it looked clean.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Oh, that's nice matt just does always look cleaner.
Yeah, but all right.
Well, I think we're all readyto get out of here uh sir doug,
you want to tell everyone whereto find Puck Podcast at.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
Wherever you find podcasts, that's where we are.
We're also on YouTube and we'reon social media, but not much.
If you want to follow us,you're there.
Then there's, of course,patreoncom slash puckpodcast as
well.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
Kyle, where can they find you?

Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
Same as Doug Anywhere , podcast as well.
Yep and kyle, where can theyfind you?
Same as doug.
Anywhere you listen to podcasts, we're there apple, spotify,
even amazon fire stick.
You can find us on youtube andthen all the social medias it's
at lo underscore ducks, and youcan also find me at car talk
sportscom or at cartalksportsfor socials.
Yeah, kind of just everywhereand nowhere at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
Yep and Adam, where can they find you in Patriots
Hockey?

Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
Patriots Hockey we have.
Patshockeyorg is our website.
You can find us on all socialsInstagram, Facebook, twitter.
We're kind of all over theplace, so you can definitely
find us there and that's whereI'm usually at.
Also, like I said, theSeptember 24th or 21st is our
fourth annual golf tournament.
If anyone wants to come out,registration is now open.

(01:36:53):
You can find that on thewebsite.
You can find it through all ofour socials.
And if anyone needs a breakfrom the fun little Southern
California heat wave we have,going on the weekend of August
22nd we'll be down in San Diegohaving the Classy San Diego
Hockey Tournament.
It's a three-on-threetournament.
Everyone just calls it StayClassy.
It's always a fun time.

(01:37:14):
Yeah, so we'll be down therethat weekend as well if anyone
wants to come down and just havea break from the weather.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Yeah, someone on Instagram called the Clutchutch
told me not to listen to you,adam hutch is just mad because I
stopped him uh, okay he thinkshe's a better scorer, but when
in fact I'm a better goalie ah,okay that makes sense I just
thought I'd add that in therehutch is one of our san diego

(01:37:42):
patriots.
He's actually going to play onmy dim bums team with at the
classy tournament and he's goingto be playing with us out in
vegas this year as well awesomewell, and then, uh, you guys can
find royally quacked on allsocial medias at royally quacked
, and also we're on all podcastplatforms and you can subscribe
and follow us here on youtubeand twitch.
Uh, we appreciate it and we'llbe back next week with the

(01:38:04):
all-time Kings roster andhopefully we'll have a
simulation, probably the weekafter that.
So, on that, I guess we all gotto.
We only have to do one chanttoday.
I don't have my dad to ruin it,let's go.

Speaker 5 (01:38:19):
Ducks.

Speaker 3 (01:38:21):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
Ducks, we still got quack quack, quack, quack that
is very true.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
So, alright, thank you everyone for tuning in and
don't forget to send in who youwould like to see on the Ducks
roster if you would like tochange anything or add anything,
even though I think ours isperfect.
But just tune in next week andwe'll have the Kings all time
roster for you.
So we'll see you guys next weekon.
Really quick, thank youeveryone.

Speaker 5 (01:39:17):
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