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August 22, 2025 65 mins

The Wallabies stunned the world in Johannesburg. Now they march into Cape Town with confidence, facing a Springbok side swinging the axe after a shock defeat.

In this episode of Rugby Unity, David Pembroke is joined by Eddie Jones and Ewen McKenzie to unpack the clash everyone’s talking about. They reveal why Rassie Erasmus named his team a week early, how Joe Schmidt has injected belief into the Wallabies, and why the referee’s whistle could decide it all.


Also in this episode:

  • Eddie Jones on Attack, Attack, Attack and rugby’s shift from evasion to collision.
  • All Blacks v Argentina — lessons from Córdoba.
  • Codie Taylor’s 100th test and the challenge of milestone games.
  • Rugby storytelling: the All Blacks’ prison visit and the Springboks’ 5,000-fan open session.
  • Women’s rugby leading the way in content and fan connection.
  • How Zimbabwe and other emerging nations can grow between World Cups.
  • Can the Springboks finally break the All Blacks’ Eden Park streak?


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