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July 18, 2025 61 mins

Can the Wallabies shock the rugby world and beat the British and Irish Lions?

Eddie Jones and Ewen McKenzie think they can.

In Rugby Unity’s Lions Test preview, David Pembroke is joined by coaching heavyweights Jones and McKenzie who offer a clear plan for how the for how Australia can ambush the British & Irish Lions in Brisbane.

It relies on tempo, disruption, taking risks and putting the Lions in the ‘’Brisbane Sauna’’.

Joining the Rugby Unity podcast for the first time, McKenzie is as clear and concise as ever—demanding tempo, disruption and risk taking. Eddie Jones calls for “guerrilla warfare” Their message? If Australia plays it safe, they lose. If they go for broke, they’ve got a shot.

Together, Jones, McKenzie and co-host David Pembroke unpack:

  • Why the Wallabies must scramble the structure and embrace chaos
  • The breakdown battle, referee psychology, and how to use the bench
  • How to rattle Finn Russell to disrupt the Lions
  • They call out who needs to lead, who needs to go early, and who’s been picked on reputation, not form
  • And what goes wrong when teams try to match the Lions, instead of challenging them

They don’t hold back on selections. They dissect the mental game. And they call out exactly what needs to happen to light up the series to set rugby in Australia on fire.

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