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I realized what the studies I did that a lot of the people
that are self saboteurs because they're, they're so scared of
the uncomfortable, not knowing where they're going, not knowing
if they're going to be successful in something.
And right then and there they, they put themselves on pause.
Like like I didn't understand before.
And you said at the beginning that they do this to protect
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themselves because of this unknown that they don't know.
And this is freaky for a lot of people.
So did you realize that as as well as that unknown really
creates a lot of self saboteurs?Yeah, because basically one of
the things even successful people don't get to the next
level because that's uncomfortable, sounds so simple.
And it is. That's what that's what took me
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over 30 years. Yeah, this was like a year
thing. It was 30 years of trial and
error and really working with thousands and thousands of
people. And when I say this never fails,
it never fails. And we prove that.
I hope people are fucking recording this right now because
this is fucking so important andit's been gold.
Everything does big coming, coming out of your mouth because
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literally like that. There's so much stuff that we
don't understand about that partof us there because it's in us,
all of us. Have you ever seen the master
domino? The domino masters?
They pushed this one domino and goes straight.
Yeah, let's say balloons over the East.
What's the last thing you see? Balloons.
That's your imposter syndrome, your procrastination, your
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depression, your anxiety. You're over talking, you're not
selling. You do all these things,
everything you see what last. So what do you do?
You take your coping methods andput them where you put them on
the balloons. Not the one domino that started
at all. So what's easier?
Hold down all the balloons? Is that pushing the damn domino?
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That domino is your inborn. That's the trigger.
That causes every negative emotion that you experience
until those balloons are released.
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Welcome back on the Rumbling Faxpodcast, the place where
critical thinking meets uncomfortable truth for real
growth. This is your number one
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the script, speak what's real and build their mindset to the
next level. 1 hard truth at a time.
I'm your host, DJ Ritz. I'm a rapper, creator, true
seeker and the founder of MakingOthers read where we take a book
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books in the past three years. It's really amazing.
Knowledge should be shared people and that's why I do it.
And the podcast is the same. It's all about digging deeper,
exposing truth and sparking realgrowth into one another.
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Today we're diving deep and one of the most powerful yet hidden
forces of our lives, self sabotage.
We are our own worst fucking enemy people.
And I've been through hell and back and when I look back in
retrospect, most of the time I fucked up.
I put myself in those situationsand it's all there's a self
sabotage and procrastination. So our guest today is Doctor
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Phil Agrios, a man who has dedicated decades to uncovering
the signs behind self sabotage and helping others break free
from these mental traps that hold us back.
He is the author of Life One Law, natures blueprint for
repeatable success in life and business.
Doctor Agrios has spent a year studying the inborn sabotage
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trait, a discovery that revolutionized the way we
understand and overcome these obstacles within ourselves
people. His Tea Now method is a powerful
tool that addresses both the imposter syndrome and
Procrastination 2 forces that prevent millions of people from
stepping into their full potential.
Today, Doctor Agrio is here to to help us understand and deal
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with this self sabotage. Let's dive deep into this
conversation and welcome to Rumbling Fax podcast, the
incredible Doctor Phillip Agrios.
How you doing? I'm doing great.
Thanks so much for inviting me on.
Appreciate. It alright it's such an honor to
have you. I've been following you.
You're working. It's clear that you you found a
way to tap into something that alot of people struggle with,
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like overcoming self sabotage. What initially drew you to this
field? And like, fuck, I'm going to
help these people. Well, I kind of made myself
thinking I was the king of self sabotage.
Or. Decades with my with my practice
with my family and so many things.
And I just started falling into this whole thing and I happened
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to stumble across what we call the inborn sabotage tree.
It's a trait that we are actually born with.
You can't get rid of. So it's there not to undermine
you. It's there to protect you from
the very success that you're seeking because that success of
consciously is more painful to actually to achieve and to
sustain. So we go back doing what we've
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been doing, which is easier. That's that imposture syndrome.
That's the procrastination or whatever we do not to that
undermines that success because it's uncomfortable.
And when I first found that, I was like, this is too simple.
There's no way. So I went out to try to disprove
it and over 30 years researchingthousands and thousands of
people, not only was able to prove it found a way to switch
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it off instantly. And it works 100% of the time.
And we, we call it the T now method, which is T man's
transcend. So transcend any adversity, no
matter how big or small instantaneously because you're
going to switch off that saboteur.
And what I tell people, you never get rid of it because that
would be stupid because it's your protector, right?
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There's nothing wrong with you. It's protecting you and it's
just showing you how to dance with it, how not to use it as
much. And by using what we call the
tenor method or the antidote, the antidote is the exact thing
to do is to offset this so that you do not self sabotage.
So then you got into this field like a fucking head first by not
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really knowing anything about this and wow that that that's
incredible because you spent decades studying self sabotage.
Can you break down the inborn sabotaging trait and how this
can impact most people lives without them realizing?
Yeah, see, people think that self sabotage is the mindset.
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It isn't. It's actually a biological trait
and you are actually born with this, OK, And it's not that you
are born and then through your traumas and your experiences,
then now you create procrastination and other things
or this trait. You're born with it and that's
how you pacifically protect yourself.
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So when you release your personal professional power and
you hit that wall, your saboteurkicks in to protect you.
There's nothing wrong with you or not an idiot or a or a loser
or the other 100 words we say toourselves.
We're just in protection. So imagine when you hit that
wall, as you start to contract, knowing the one trait that is
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causing you to protect yourself,and then using what we call the
antidote, the exact opposite to it, you immediately go into
growth. So now you expand the local
traction span. Now you're doing this compared
to consistently contracting in that hamster wheel over and over
again. So we what, what I was able to
do was find that there's actually 3 traits that actually
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make up who we are. And we call them the director,
the supplier, and the communicator trait.
OK? And those 3 traits make up who
we are. And then when we take those
traits and place them in a sequence, we call this the
protective sequence. This is the sequence you're born
with. And no matter how you protect
yourself, you go these three steps and that's how you protect
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yourself. And then by switching it and
going the opposite direction, that's how you go into growth
and to evolve. So at that moment, we found that
there's only 6 sequences of human behavior.
So there's only six people in the world.
Wow, wow, when we think we're sounique, but when you look at
that in particular, we realize that we're way more common than
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than we think they're Well, in your book titled Life one law
natures A blueprint to for reputable success in life and
business. What is 1 law that you're
referring to and how can it helpsomebody get back on track?
Was one of my first books that Iwrote.
I wrote it in order to get my information out as well as to
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help people to understand that there's there's a six step
blueprint that I discovered thatnature uses to come back from
her storm. So these 6 steps, it's the same
6 steps that we have they in order to solve any business or
personal problem. And I show that through steps in
the book. And that blueprint when I looked
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at the six steps, when I placed the opposite steps together,
that's how I created the three basic principles of the
universe. So everything from the Adams to
the galaxies are that's focused on the director of the supplier
and the communicator because that's all we do as humans and
that's all we do in our atoms. And everything else is that we
direct, we supply, and we communicate.
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That's it. That's how simple it is.
Everything else is just a building up of all these three
things consistently over and over again.
So I had to teach myself quantumphysics and other things to dive
into that more often. But I've been mainly focusing on
human behavior and how this law is basically showing us is why
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we go down the road we go down and how the shift that road if
you don't like that road anymore.
Since you're so passionate aboutself sabotage and stuff like
that, have you been through selfsabotage yourself before?
Like going into that feeling like God damn, I gotta help
people get out of this because Iwent through this shit.
I went through a lot of stuff, so I went through it all started
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from a false accusation from an insurance company.
I used to be a chiropractor and a functional medicine
practitioner. My specialty was thyroid and
autoimmune disease. The sick of the sickness and we
had very high success rates because we help people realize
this saboteur was causing them to consistently be unhealthy and
to continue down that road so that they and when they used the
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antidote, it shifted so they cancontinue down more healthy
habits instead of going back to the unhealthy habits, which was
more comfortable for them. So I was getting very highly
successful rates and one of the things was that three things was
going to happen to I was going to go to jail.
I was going to jail for fraud and I was going to lose my
license and I had to pay back three times of what the
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insurance companies paid me. And as I said, it was all
baloney. They were just coming after me
because of certain things and itwas all untrue.
So nothing ever happened to me. But during that time, it created
a lot of stress. I became the savior, my throwing
that time, my father, very youngfather, 71, healthy, developed
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brain cancer and within seven months he passed.
And that became the primary caretaker of my mom.
And then 70 years later she passed.
I went through financial ruin. I went, I was on disability.
I couldn't practice anymore. And later I was able through
this work and other things get myself back practicing.
But during that whole situation,I'm with through horrific
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divorce, went through financial ruin a few times, unfortunately,
one of my daughters almost triedto commit suicide.
He said that if my ex came home 10 minutes earlier, she would
have been gone. So all of this, and there's a
lot. More.
With all the trauma and all the things that happened to me
caused me to break things down in order for me to find this.
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And that's why I left my practice three years ago.
I shut it down to do this full time and I'm here until another
60 years until somebody takes me.
But yeah, I have this huge responsibility that I have
something that no one else has. There's nothing like this in the
world. And I thought people, I've never
seen this before, so that's why I like it.
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So I have this huge why and that's why I get up at 5530 in
the morning because I want to help and tap into the millions
of people that need this. And that's why why, why do this
and why I'm on your podcast. Procrastination and imposter
syndrome are two major hurdles that a lot of people go through.
And how does your Your Team Now method addresses both issues
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simultaneously? Well, both are just protection,
OK? No matter what, whenever, when
you're out of the flow, when things are resistive, when
you're stressed, you worry or whatever, you're in protection.
That's all it is. So there's only two things we
do, we protect, we grow, we contract, we expand, we give and
take where vibrational beings. So let me give you an analogy.
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Have you ever seen the master domino?
The domino masters? They pushed this one domino and
goes straight. Yeah, let's say balloons over
the East. What's the last thing you see
below? Balloons.
That's your imposter syndrome, your procrastination, your
depression, your anxiety. You're over talking.
You're not selling you all thesethings.
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Everything. You see what last?
So what do you do? You take your coping methods and
put them where you put them on the balloons.
Not the one domino that started at all.
So what's easier? Hold down all the balloons?
Is that pushing the damn domino?That domino is your inborn.
That's the trigger. That causes every negative
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emotion that you experience until those balloons are
released. So what we do is that goes down
the road of frustration and desperation.
But when you just switch it, right, those of you can't see
and you're driving and listening, taking my hand.
I'm just switching my hand from the front to the back and from
there you go down the the Tina method.
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That's by using the ants though.You must now go down the road of
growth, inspiration and motivation.
So it's basically the same domino depending on which side
you push it one way you go into protection and the same domino
push it the other way, you go into motivation and evolution.
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So growth and protection are allare the same thing there
happened instantaneously. It's up to you which side you
want to push and go forward with.
Wow. So there's only one thing to
focus on for the rest of your life.
It's the trigger the trigger. And that's what I found.
Wow, I really like the way you explained that, that thing with
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the Domino's right when you saidthat, that domino thing with the
the balloon at the end, Oh my God, like I caught on like at
the second, like understood, like what our brain does like
because it's complex, but the the way you said it right there,
Oh, wow, that made a lot of sense, I'm sure for a lot of
people. Most interesting, if I may
interrupt you said the brain. Only a third of us need mindset.
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That's why the other 2/3 mindsetdoesn't work.
We found was each, each, um, trait 1 trait governs the mental
and the thoughts. The other trait governs the gut,
the feelings, and the other one covers the emotions, the heart.
So depending on your saboteur will depend on what part of the
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body as well as certain techniques that will be
different. So that if you had a significant
other, right, I can, once I knowyour sequence, I can tell
everything about you, why you did what you did, what's going
on today and why you'll continuedoing it.
You're doing you had a significant other.
I can just ask you a couple of questions, tell you everything
about them, and never meet them.Exactly me tell you how to.
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Interact. Yeah, exactly.
So with that aspect of it, when you know.
So you will then do one thing with one antidote and the other,
and your significant other will do something different.
But imagine knowing why they do what they do.
We'll know now. So conflict can drop
tremendously. We've stopped divorces.
We've helped parent, child relationships, business
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partners, helping people with their clients, so many different
things to understand the other person.
So now there's no more judgment.It's now understanding and
compassion because everybody hasa saboteur.
So I can judge you based on my superpower, which is your
saboteur and vice versa. I realized what the studies I
did that a lot of people that are self saboteurs because
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they're, they're so scared of the uncomfortable, not knowing
where they're going, not knowingif they're going to be
successful in something. And right then and there they,
they, they put themselves on pause.
Like like I didn't understand before.
And you said at the beginning that they do this to protect
themselves because of this unknown that they don't know.
And this is freaky for a lot of people.
So did did you realize that as as well as that unknown really
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creates a lot of self saboteurs?Yeah, because basically one of
the things even successful people don't get to next level
because that's uncomfortable, right?
I don't care whether you're a multi millionaire, multi
billionaire or you're poor or you know, you're on the streets,
Everybody has that protective moment, right?
So when you understand that for yourself now you know that it's
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OK if you go into the protectioncontraction.
It's just there for you to protect yourself.
For instance, I don't care if you go in the corner, take your
pillow, suck your thumb in the fetal position on the floor.
I'm good with that. People like why?
You're just protecting yourself.I'm good with that.
But here's the challenge. How long are you there for?
That's the problem. How long are you creating that
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procrastinate? Because if it's years, it's.
Probably a little bit, right? It's OK to procrastinate a
little bit only for 5 minutes ormaybe a day compared to months
that you were doing. See how you're improving and
moving forward, but now you knowyou're you're doing it and you
know how to move forward with it.
Once you have this answer to. Wow, that's what makes sense.
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So I have this segment of uncomfortable truth.
So here we go. What's 1 of the hardest truths
you realize in your career or life?
One of the hardest truths, one hard truth was that it was me Co
creating my reality that it, that life wasn't happening to
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me. Life wasn't happening to me.
It was happening from me, through me and for me.
And once I realized that and with the antidote, then I
realized that I had to control and by Co creating what I have,
because everything outside of you is you, the person you can't
stand as a part of you, you can't stand.
They're just showing up to show you what you're not dealing
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with. That's why you're pissed off.
So once you deal with that part of you, that saboteur, and you
deal with the antidote, 2 thingshappened to that person.
They leave or they change because they still wanna be in
your world. So it was basically the that
hard truth that it wasn't the environment, it wasn't the
financial situation, it wasn't this person, it was me creating
my world to show a part of me soI could evolve.
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What I realized in retrospect, it's when you're living through
these stuff, yeah, there's everybody at the blame, but when
you look back and I've been through addiction.
I've been through hell and back a couple of times, and when I
relook at everything there, Oh my God, I put that chest piece
there every time. It was my fault, but I put
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myself in those situations and it's always in retrospect and
it's incredible. Remember, it wasn't your fault,
you were just protecting yourself.
That addiction is just this one thing.
That one thing is called as the addiction.
What one thing causes you Something in every situation is
always just one thing within you, and that's why this creates
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everything. Wow, what's the most
uncomfortable moral dilemma thatyou had to face?
Oh, one of the most uncomfortable was knowing that I
was innocent and I was being gone after by the the the
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medical and the chiropractic board due to politics.
And but once I because basicallywhat happens is we in New
Jersey, we were creating medicalcentres, being chiropractors and
maybe that was legal. We were the first ones to start
doing this and the medical boarddidn't like chiropractors to
have medical doctors and all that because we were helping
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people and they went after like five of us throughout the state.
And that was the start having noidea and and now, but the only
thing that saved me was my reputation.
People knew of my reputation as I was told my kids, you nothing
except your reputation. Make sure it's clean and that's
what saved me. I think that's one of the best
advice. My grandpa told me.
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He's like when you go in a room,to think that you still have
that hockey jersey on because your name is on yourself at all
times and you represent yourselfat all times.
You go in the room and you better leave looking good for
those people because you don't know if that person could be
your best friend. Maybe he'll teach you like meet
you your wife one day. You don't know.
So I treat everybody good and you represent yourself at all
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times. And I, I feel like people in the
new generation really don't livewith that because if you're not
on their cell phone, they don't really care.
They just pass in the road rightbeside you.
What's an aspect of self sabotage that you believe is
misrepresented in the movies or media?
That so sabotages all unusual fault compared to it being self
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protection. That's all self sabotages is
just self protection and that's what I discovered.
I think it's incredible because like I had never analyzed that
like that right when you said atthe beginning everything just
made sense of why we do it. And if you don't understand why
your body or your brain is doingsomething, how the fuck can you
fix it? Bro you need to know.
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You need to know the pattern to intercept it for sure.
And when you look at the bigger picture, what's something about
the world that no one seems willing to confront but you've
come to realize is the key to understanding our future?
It comes down to saboteur. I've had multi $1,000,000
companies ready to implode but once they understood their
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saboteur and how the board was interacting that it saved them.
I've had people ready to go to divorce attorneys the next day
but realized that they didn't hate each other, they were just
protecting themselves from each other.
I've had teenagers and problems,major problems and parents help
them. Veterans with PTSD showing that
that the PTSD was just protection, nothing wrong with
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them and so many things. So, yeah, when I say this sounds
so simple, and it is. That's what that's what took me
over 30 years. Yeah, this was like a year
thing. It was 30 years of trial and
error and really working with thousands and thousands of
people. And when I say this never fails,
it never fails. And we prove that.
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I hope people are fucking recording this right now because
this is fucking so important andit's been gold.
Everything that's been coming, coming out of your mouth,
because literally there there's so much stuff that we don't
understand about that part of usthere because it's in us, all of
us, no matter who you are. When a lot of people realize
that their self saboteur like would say some people like go
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even in the in the worst way that there's no fixing them like
they're there's nothing possibleto do or there's always
something that maybe someone. Can do.
Oh, it's always there. It's whether their willingness
to use it, because again, it's more uncomfortable using the
antidote in the beginning because it's weird.
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It's the bright brains like whatdo this?
I'm so used to doing this. But after a while they start
seeing this. And then the goal is for them to
use their antidote, the Tenon method, more on a subconscious
level than they are with their saboteur.
And knowing that if it does come, it's OK, you're just
protecting yourself. So your audience should write
this sentence down at the momentwhen you're stressed or
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resistance or something, right? Just ask yourself, why am I
protecting myself? Why am I protecting myself at
this moment in time? And that will please help shift
some of the thoughts. There's a lot of people like I
think that they're not living self sabotage.
So what are some signs that people need to check out for
themselves of how to really, I don't know, analyze or see the
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pattern of their self? If one of the main generic ways
is that you're not getting to the point of where you want to
be that your stock, you're in this loop or oh, here it is to
go even 10 years ago, I'm still in the same place type of thing.
Those are the people that are overthinking and they allow
those thoughts to just think they're so they want to get
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perfect and they they get caughtup in this structure.
People that overly talk, they vomit on people, they talk too
much. They get people in people's
faces, people that are scattered.
They're all over the place. They can't, they can't focus on
one thing, so they go back and forth and just can't finish
tasks. People that are overly giving,
they give too much to other people because they don't want
to feel selfish, that they don'tknow that selfishness does not
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equal self nourishment. That they feel resentful later
and then they sort of get upset and then go back and start
overly giving because they don'tvalue themselves.
People that are not expressing themselves well, they just hold
in and they're just to themselves.
And that's no. Good.
I don't know what the thinking of feeling.
So they guess, so they over process things, they have a hard
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time disconnecting things like that.
I realize that a lot of girls have this problem in particular
are being so good hearted that they give and give well.
Literally a a lot of the bad people are going to take
advantage of that. And then you get destroyed or
years along the line and you didn't see shit because you're
so good hearted and you're trying to, you're trying to see
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the good in everybody. But not everybody has some good.
And you can't just give it all to somebody in a relationship.
You should give as much as that person is giving you back
because if you you're giving like five times more than that
other person, well you're probably not in the right
relationship. But a lot of people don't
realize that. And I saw a lot of girls have
that trait of being so good hearted and they got destroyed
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by by guys that took advantage of that.
How can parents identify this self sabotaging trait in their
children early to try to help them grow up?
I. Like protecting themselves all
their life there. Yeah, they need to learn how to
find it within themselves who are now program and then from
there they will then understand their children.
Then they'll see how each of their children are somewhat
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different and how they should approach each child differently
instead of 1. Everybody in this like mold,
Yeah, that never works, right? A lot of people struggle in
their relationships and feel disconnected or misunderstood by
their partner. What's that?
I realized that you realize that, like some stuff that
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what's the secret? Understanding your partners
needs like without guessing, because a lot of people are in
relationships and I look at themin the restaurant, I'm like,
wow, those two are. I don't even hear what they say,
but I know they're not honest with each other and
relationships are based on honesty.
So what do you see that you you can fix?
Yeah, and that's again coming down to understanding your your
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partners in saboteur. Let me give you an example.
I had a guy I met a month previously and he calls me up a
month later and says I'm going to divorce attorney tomorrow.
What can you do? I'm like, what?
What I'm like, OK, wait, let's get your wife on, on.
Because I wanted to make sure they weren't, they hated each
other, but they were just protecting themselves.
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And then during the process of working with them in our
program, we saw major changes. And then you bring the children
into play. And now each one understood why
the other one handled the other child differently and how the
other one didn't agree with it. But now they understood why they
why that person reacted the way they did.
And when they came together and came up with a plan based on
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their both antidote of themselves as well as their
children, we've seen minimally 5to 6 marriages not going to this
divorce. So yeah, it's that simple.
Didn't say it was easy, but it'sthat simple and we can get there
faster. Communication is the key to
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fucking success and no matter what and understanding your
children is very important. So if you don't understand self
sabotage yourself, all you need to figure that out and then
start analyzing your child and be like, OK, I could push him
into that direction. It won't it won't put him in the
corner for sure. And people often talk about the
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and and imposter syndrome and can you tell us a bit about
this? And but it seems like at your
work the digs even deeper in thepsychological roots of this.
Again, you talked to us about that.
Yeah, impostor syndrome is that you're not good enough that you
know you're. I see this one a lot of code.
Like a victim mindset. Yeah, well, there's not even
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that it's, it's like a like a coach, like some a business
coach or maybe a life coach or whatever.
And they're giving people advice, but they're not, they're
feel that they shouldn't be giving advice.
They're imposture because some of their lives aren't really
going that well. And I'm like, well, that's why
people hiring you because you'vegone through that, right?
I mean, if I'm, am I going to hire if I'm an addict, right?
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Am I going to hire a psychologist who just is book
smart or am I going to hire a psychologist who is also went
through addiction? Absolutely.
So that that experience is there, but but tending on
there's only three saboteurs. OK, so depending on what
saboteur you are that that imposture syndrome was created
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due to something totally different for each of the
saboteurs. So a lot of times that's not
addressed because they're doing more general understanding of
why they're impossible, why the imposter compared to the true
reason why they're going into that posture syndrome.
And once people understand that and they have the antidote, when
they start feeling that impostorsyndrome, they start using the
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antidote and they can get out ofit much faster and then moving
forward. So they don't feel that and they
they can help more and more people.
That is so true. Like yeah, I want somebody that
fucking lived it. Like I had somebody on the
podcast that talks about porn addiction and a lot of guys that
don't want to admit that in life.
And literally the guy like lost his career, job and everything
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because he was addict. Like literally he had
everything. And literally he was watching
porn until crazy hours and having like one hour sleep to go
to work, to barely work. And literally it was a circle of
just fucking porn and alcohol non-stop.
And I sort of point like at the people in his business were
like, man, we gotta kick him outthere for him to go get help.
And now he he's an expert on this and helping people.
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And he's like, I love hearing like the excuses guy say and
everything because I've been through it.
Don't worry, I know all of them broke.
And I was like, man, that is so true.
And, and for sure I don't want this girl that just studied porn
addiction. I want the person that went
through this shit and literally lost everything because of it
and came out stronger to help other people because that guy
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had lived through it completely.You really need to understand
yourself your sabotage first, like you said earlier.
You know, you have to understandyou why you're reacting to your
teenager. Are they like you and that's why
you're pissed off? Are they not telling you certain
things because you're demanding?Said for instance, I had a, I
had a, I was doing my workshop and I had a gentleman manager
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come up to me and said, you know, my son's always upstairs
playing video games. I can't get him down to interact
with the family. So I asked him a few questions.
We asked famous son Sequence never met his son.
He went back and his son within less than a week was downstairs
interacting with the family. Now she realized, and then the
relationship skyrocketed over two months.
So he realized he was the one pushing his son back in the room
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because he was making fun of him.
That's how he grew up because his son had a different
saboteur. He pushed them back in the room.
As he understood that, they started to react and he let him
to be who he was and doing all the things.
It's crazy how just that understanding could.
Change. Exactly.
And then we realized because your profession and your
business and your personal life are one, he was doing the same
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thing in his business. And as we shift that, his
business skyrocketed as well. It's crazy how just the the
little switch of understanding why somebody is like this.
Like no matter if it's just somebody that says something, if
you understand why that person is always depressed and
everything, you won't judge him for it.
But it's the same thing with everything that Doctor Agrios is
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talking about. There's a lot of information out
there on productivity because literally there's apps shitting
themselves every day. It's crazy.
How does your 24 hour predicted productivity boost method
actually help people ditch procrastination and make a real
progress? Because I'm still stuck in
procrastination today. There are some stuff that is
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easy for me, but there's some stuff that people are like, are
you? Are you, are you kidding me?
You can't do that. Me opening the mail is a huge
problem because it forces me to do something no matter if it's a
bill or check. I'm pissed because somebody's
forcing me as an adult to do something and that there for me
to it takes sometimes at four tosix months.
And I imagine if you open your mail only four to six months as
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well, you got you got bills and problems for sure.
And that happens constantly for me and I I even went to jail
because of it because I didn't give my address.
And when I was in jail, I was like, isn't this incredible?
I lost my freedom just because II I didn't open my fucking mail
and I knew it was all me, all mecompletely.
And when you think and I I come back home, but at least I'll fix
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that because literally I lost myfreedom bro.
Like I I was praying to God crying in there for 46 hours and
it was all me and I still don't fix that shit.
Like like how could? Your saboteur, once you
understand that and the antidotethat will precede this all the
time with people just like yourself, just why you're not
doing it? Because it's more because you
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are thinking that you have more pain to opening up mail than not
until it gets to that point. So yeah, again, the
procrastination is just protecting you from what you
think is going to be more pain by opening it.
Wow, because I never liked authority as a life when I was
a. Kid, you don't even like you
telling yourself what to do. That's so real, OHT, that's
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good. So we're at the critical
thinking part. What's 1 of the greatest lessons
that you learned in your life, that or career that you still
apply today? My antidote, it's helped me
tremendously, helped me to create a successful businesses,
a second great new marriage reinforce my family, everything
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I tell everybody that has happened to me and I
consistently use it. And when I don't use it, I don't
get on myself. I go OK, why am I protecting
myself and then I continue using.
You put yourself back in self-awareness trying to analyze
right away. When you you see you're not
using it. You're like, I'm probably
fucking up somewhere. Wow, wow, that is a strong
mindset too. Wow man, that is good.
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What's your personal favorite achievement in your career or
your life that you're more of a most proud of?
Of discovering this this this thing always comes down to this
manager I've I've the vote is 33years of my life to this.
And I, I find that fucking incredible.
I had a guy on that studied lifeafter death for the past 40
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years and it was incredible because I'm so dead.
Just believe in fact there to the highest degree.
So for somebody like me that believes in facts while you're
dead and it's over to the breezeoff and after I had the podcast
with him, I was realizing, wow, it's so it seems so beautiful.
What's after there because he analyzed everybody that went
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through death and came back there and he that's what he was
checking and he was realizing that there they say that Oh joy,
only God can judge me while he realized that God doesn't judge
at all. They're the only person that's
going to judge up there is yourself of yourself and nothing
else, and you just understand everything and there's no pain
nowhere. And I'm like, wow, that's why
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they say hell is on earth because and I was like, wow, if
if a death is this after Wow, I was really seeing it from a
beautiful view instead of seeingit over.
Oh, it's all it's all done. So there's so much to learn when
somebody dedicates this much time, because I won't.
So that's why we have people like you on, and I really
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appreciate that. What's a a surprising conspiracy
or just a theory that people would be surprised that you
believe? I would say that I would be.
I just think differently. I just think they matter.
What happens to my way? I look at it as a benefit for
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me, no matter how good or bad itis.
I just look at it as a benefit and I look find out why is it
here in my life and how can I benefit from it.
Like no matter what happens. Good.
OK, yeah, that's it. That's it.
And can you share an instance where your intuition, intuition,
or your gut feeling led you to make a dish, a decision, or a
challenge that traditional logicand expectations like wouldn't
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do? Close my practice.
I've had people like you're out of your mind.
My patients were really upset with me, but I knew that I had a
higher calling. And and I I think I know the
answer to the last one because of what you you said right
before. What's an example of a situation
where thinking outside the box helped you solve a problem that
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others couldn't? Dealing with my children.
My ex had put a wedge between myself and my kids and I one
time I just said if I never see my children again I'm OK.
And I really meant it because I was over giving, giving.
I was just losing. Myself fighting for nothing.
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And when I let that go, things started to shift because I took
care of me. I used my antidote at that
moment. And our relationship is strong.
No one can ever break our relationship.
That, that is some beautiful stuff.
So I'll ask just one last one, last one.
Can you share a bit more about where you want this legacy to go
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and how? How do you think you can expand
this to the masses like international?
This is what we do. We do have international
clients. So we have, we have three ways
people get to understand the T now method one, we have a, a, a
group coaching course where people get one on ones with me
and group coaching with myself. I do, I do four and eight hour
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workshops with companies. We just did one for the Army and
then I do have a membership. Site where people come in and
they can least start understanding this and so all
monthly relate a monthly membership fee.
So we have three different ways depending on what the people
need and where they're at with their mindset and what they want
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to do. Perfect.
So where can everybody find yourbooks?
Are there on Amazon. Yeah, so they can go to my
website. OK, I'll put them on the site.
The website, right? And then they if they're
interested in the membership site, they can go there if
they're interested in and if there are business owner,
executive, sales professional orentrepreneur, they can go into
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the other, the other one, they'll be down in your podcast
links. It's a 12 minute video goes a
little deeper what we do. And then they can have to see if
the group coaching is right for them.
OK. So thanks again for coming on.
It was an honor to have. You.
It was great conversation. I hope this was valuable for you
and your audience. For sure it was.
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So thanks everybody and have a great weekend.
I realized what the studies I did that a lot of the people
that are self saboteurs because they're, they're so scared of
the uncomfortable, not knowing where they're going, not knowing
if they're going to be successful in something.
And right then and there they, they put themselves on pause.
Like like I didn't understand before.
And you said at the beginning that they do this to protect
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themselves because of this unknown that they don't know.
And this is freaky for a lot of people.
So did you realize that as as well as that unknown really
creates a lot of self saboteurs?Yeah, because basically one of
the things even successful people don't get to the next
level because that's uncomfortable, sounds so simple.
And it is. That's what that's what took me
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over 30 years. Yeah, this was like a year
thing. It was 30 years of trial and
error and really working with thousands and thousands of
people. And when I say this never fails,
it never fails. And we prove that.
I hope people are fucking recording this right now because
this is fucking so important andit's been gold.
Everything does big coming, coming out of your mouth because
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literally like that. There's so much stuff that we
don't understand about that partof us there because it's in us,
all of us. Have you ever seen the master
domino? The domino masters?
They pushed this one domino and goes straight.
Yeah, let's say balloons over the East.
What's the last thing you see? Balloons.
That's your imposter syndrome, your procrastination, your
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depression, your anxiety. You're over talking, you're not
selling. You do all these things,
everything you see what last. So what do you do?
You take your coping methods andput them where you put them on
the balloons. Not the one domino that started
at all. So what's easier?
Hold down all the balloons? Is that pushing the damn domino?
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That domino is your inborn. That's the trigger.
That causes every negative emotion that you experience
until those balloons are released.
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Welcome back on the Rumbling Faxpodcast, the place where
critical thinking meets uncomfortable truth for real
growth. This is your number one
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the script, speak what's real and build their mindset to the
next level. 1 hard truth at a time.
I'm your host, DJ Ritz. I'm a rapper, creator, true
seeker and the founder of MakingOthers read where we take a book
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there are unwanted by people andgive them back to the
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books in the past three years. It's really amazing.
Knowledge should be shared people and that's why I do it.
And the podcast is the same. It's all about digging deeper,
exposing truth and sparking realgrowth into one another.
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Today we're diving deep and one of the most powerful yet hidden
forces of our lives, self sabotage.
We are our own worst fucking enemy people.
And I've been through hell and back and when I look back in
retrospect, most of the time I fucked up.
I put myself in those situationsand it's all there's a self
sabotage and procrastination. So our guest today is Doctor
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Phil Agrios, a man who has dedicated decades to uncovering
the signs behind self sabotage and helping others break free
from these mental traps that hold us back.
He is the author of Life One Law, natures blueprint for
repeatable success in life and business.
Doctor Agrios has spent a year studying the inborn sabotage
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trait, a discovery that revolutionized the way we
understand and overcome these obstacles within ourselves
people. His Tea Now method is a powerful
tool that addresses both the imposter syndrome and
Procrastination 2 forces that prevent millions of people from
stepping into their full potential.
Today, Doctor Agrio is here to to help us understand and deal
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with this self sabotage. Let's dive deep into this
conversation and welcome to Rumbling Fax podcast, the
incredible Doctor Phillip Agrios.
How you doing? I'm doing great.
Thanks so much for inviting me on.
Appreciate. It alright it's such an honor to
have you. I've been following you.
You're working. It's clear that you you found a
way to tap into something that alot of people struggle with,
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like overcoming self sabotage. What initially drew you to this
field? And like, fuck, I'm going to
help these people. Well, I kind of made myself
thinking I was the king of self sabotage.
Or. Decades with my with my practice
with my family and so many things.
And I just started falling into this whole thing and I happened
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to stumble across what we call the inborn sabotage tree.
It's a trait that we are actually born with.
You can't get rid of. So it's there not to undermine
you. It's there to protect you from
the very success that you're seeking because that success of
consciously is more painful to actually to achieve and to
sustain. So we go back doing what we've
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been doing, which is easier. That's that imposture syndrome.
That's the procrastination or whatever we do not to that
undermines that success because it's uncomfortable.
And when I first found that, I was like, this is too simple.
There's no way. So I went out to try to disprove
it and over 30 years researchingthousands and thousands of
people, not only was able to prove it found a way to switch
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it off instantly. And it works 100% of the time.
And we, we call it the T now method, which is T man's
transcend. So transcend any adversity, no
matter how big or small instantaneously because you're
going to switch off that saboteur.
And what I tell people, you never get rid of it because that
would be stupid because it's your protector, right?
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There's nothing wrong with you. It's protecting you and it's
just showing you how to dance with it, how not to use it as
much. And by using what we call the
tenor method or the antidote, the antidote is the exact thing
to do is to offset this so that you do not self sabotage.
So then you got into this field like a fucking head first by not
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really knowing anything about this and wow that that that's
incredible because you spent decades studying self sabotage.
Can you break down the inborn sabotaging trait and how this
can impact most people lives without them realizing?
Yeah, see, people think that self sabotage is the mindset.
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It isn't. It's actually a biological trait
and you are actually born with this, OK, And it's not that you
are born and then through your traumas and your experiences,
then now you create procrastination and other things
or this trait. You're born with it and that's
how you pacifically protect yourself.
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So when you release your personal professional power and
you hit that wall, your saboteurkicks in to protect you.
There's nothing wrong with you or not an idiot or a or a loser
or the other 100 words we say toourselves.
We're just in protection. So imagine when you hit that
wall, as you start to contract, knowing the one trait that is
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causing you to protect yourself,and then using what we call the
antidote, the exact opposite to it, you immediately go into
growth. So now you expand the local
traction span. Now you're doing this compared
to consistently contracting in that hamster wheel over and over
again. So we what, what I was able to
do was find that there's actually 3 traits that actually
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make up who we are. And we call them the director,
the supplier, and the communicator trait.
OK? And those 3 traits make up who
we are. And then when we take those
traits and place them in a sequence, we call this the
protective sequence. This is the sequence you're born
with. And no matter how you protect
yourself, you go these three steps and that's how you protect
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yourself. And then by switching it and
going the opposite direction, that's how you go into growth
and to evolve. So at that moment, we found that
there's only 6 sequences of human behavior.
So there's only six people in the world.
Wow, wow, when we think we're sounique, but when you look at
that in particular, we realize that we're way more common than
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than we think they're Well, in your book titled Life one law
natures A blueprint to for reputable success in life and
business. What is 1 law that you're
referring to and how can it helpsomebody get back on track?
Was one of my first books that Iwrote.
I wrote it in order to get my information out as well as to
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help people to understand that there's there's a six step
blueprint that I discovered thatnature uses to come back from
her storm. So these 6 steps, it's the same
6 steps that we have they in order to solve any business or
personal problem. And I show that through steps in
the book. And that blueprint when I looked
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at the six steps, when I placed the opposite steps together,
that's how I created the three basic principles of the
universe. So everything from the Adams to
the galaxies are that's focused on the director of the supplier
and the communicator because that's all we do as humans and
that's all we do in our atoms. And everything else is that we
direct, we supply, and we communicate.
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That's it. That's how simple it is.
Everything else is just a building up of all these three
things consistently over and over again.
So I had to teach myself quantumphysics and other things to dive
into that more often. But I've been mainly focusing on
human behavior and how this law is basically showing us is why
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we go down the road we go down and how the shift that road if
you don't like that road anymore.
Since you're so passionate aboutself sabotage and stuff like
that, have you been through selfsabotage yourself before?
Like going into that feeling like God damn, I gotta help
people get out of this because Iwent through this shit.
I went through a lot of stuff, so I went through it all started
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from a false accusation from an insurance company.
I used to be a chiropractor and a functional medicine
practitioner. My specialty was thyroid and
autoimmune disease. The sick of the sickness and we
had very high success rates because we help people realize
this saboteur was causing them to consistently be unhealthy and
to continue down that road so that they and when they used the
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antidote, it shifted so they cancontinue down more healthy
habits instead of going back to the unhealthy habits, which was
more comfortable for them. So I was getting very highly
successful rates and one of the things was that three things was
going to happen to I was going to go to jail.
I was going to jail for fraud and I was going to lose my
license and I had to pay back three times of what the
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insurance companies paid me. And as I said, it was all
baloney. They were just coming after me
because of certain things and itwas all untrue.
So nothing ever happened to me. But during that time, it created
a lot of stress. I became the savior, my throwing
that time, my father, very youngfather, 71, healthy, developed
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brain cancer and within seven months he passed.
And that became the primary caretaker of my mom.
And then 70 years later she passed.
I went through financial ruin. I went, I was on disability.
I couldn't practice anymore. And later I was able through
this work and other things get myself back practicing.
But during that whole situation,I'm with through horrific
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divorce, went through financial ruin a few times, unfortunately,
one of my daughters almost triedto commit suicide.
He said that if my ex came home 10 minutes earlier, she would
have been gone. So all of this, and there's a
lot. More.
With all the trauma and all the things that happened to me
caused me to break things down in order for me to find this.
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And that's why I left my practice three years ago.
I shut it down to do this full time and I'm here until another
60 years until somebody takes me.
But yeah, I have this huge responsibility that I have
something that no one else has. There's nothing like this in the
world. And I thought people, I've never
seen this before, so that's why I like it.
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So I have this huge why and that's why I get up at 5530 in
the morning because I want to help and tap into the millions
of people that need this. And that's why why, why do this
and why I'm on your podcast. Procrastination and imposter
syndrome are two major hurdles that a lot of people go through.
And how does your Your Team Now method addresses both issues
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simultaneously? Well, both are just protection,
OK? No matter what, whenever, when
you're out of the flow, when things are resistive, when
you're stressed, you worry or whatever, you're in protection.
That's all it is. So there's only two things we
do, we protect, we grow, we contract, we expand, we give and
take where vibrational beings. So let me give you an analogy.
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Have you ever seen the master domino?
The domino masters? They pushed this one domino and
goes straight. Yeah, let's say balloons over
the East. What's the last thing you see
below? Balloons.
That's your imposter syndrome, your procrastination, your
depression, your anxiety. You're over talking.
You're not selling you all thesethings.
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Everything. You see what last?
So what do you do? You take your coping methods and
put them where you put them on the balloons.
Not the one domino that started at all.
So what's easier? Hold down all the balloons?
Is that pushing the damn domino?That domino is your inborn.
That's the trigger. That causes every negative
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emotion that you experience until those balloons are
released. So what we do is that goes down
the road of frustration and desperation.
But when you just switch it, right, those of you can't see
and you're driving and listening, taking my hand.
I'm just switching my hand from the front to the back and from
there you go down the the Tina method.
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That's by using the ants though.You must now go down the road of
growth, inspiration and motivation.
So it's basically the same domino depending on which side
you push it one way you go into protection and the same domino
push it the other way, you go into motivation and evolution.
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So growth and protection are allare the same thing there
happened instantaneously. It's up to you which side you
want to push and go forward with.
Wow. So there's only one thing to
focus on for the rest of your life.
It's the trigger the trigger. And that's what I found.
Wow, I really like the way you explained that, that thing with
(15:25):
the Domino's right when you saidthat, that domino thing with the
the balloon at the end, Oh my God, like I caught on like at
the second, like understood, like what our brain does like
because it's complex, but the the way you said it right there,
Oh, wow, that made a lot of sense, I'm sure for a lot of
people. Most interesting, if I may
interrupt you said the brain. Only a third of us need mindset.
(15:48):
That's why the other 2/3 mindsetdoesn't work.
We found was each, each, um, trait 1 trait governs the mental
and the thoughts. The other trait governs the gut,
the feelings, and the other one covers the emotions, the heart.
So depending on your saboteur will depend on what part of the
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body as well as certain techniques that will be
different. So that if you had a significant
other, right, I can, once I knowyour sequence, I can tell
everything about you, why you did what you did, what's going
on today and why you'll continuedoing it.
You're doing you had a significant other.
I can just ask you a couple of questions, tell you everything
about them, and never meet them.Exactly me tell you how to.
(16:31):
Interact. Yeah, exactly.
So with that aspect of it, when you know.
So you will then do one thing with one antidote and the other,
and your significant other will do something different.
But imagine knowing why they do what they do.
We'll know now. So conflict can drop
tremendously. We've stopped divorces.
We've helped parent, child relationships, business
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partners, helping people with their clients, so many different
things to understand the other person.
So now there's no more judgment.It's now understanding and
compassion because everybody hasa saboteur.
So I can judge you based on my superpower, which is your
saboteur and vice versa. I realized what the studies I
did that a lot of people that are self saboteurs because
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they're, they're so scared of the uncomfortable, not knowing
where they're going, not knowingif they're going to be
successful in something. And right then and there they,
they, they put themselves on pause.
Like like I didn't understand before.
And you said at the beginning that they do this to protect
themselves because of this unknown that they don't know.
And this is freaky for a lot of people.
So did did you realize that as as well as that unknown really
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creates a lot of self saboteurs?Yeah, because basically one of
the things even successful people don't get to next level
because that's uncomfortable, right?
I don't care whether you're a multi millionaire, multi
billionaire or you're poor or you know, you're on the streets,
Everybody has that protective moment, right?
So when you understand that for yourself now you know that it's
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OK if you go into the protectioncontraction.
It's just there for you to protect yourself.
For instance, I don't care if you go in the corner, take your
pillow, suck your thumb in the fetal position on the floor.
I'm good with that. People like why?
You're just protecting yourself.I'm good with that.
But here's the challenge. How long are you there for?
That's the problem. How long are you creating that
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procrastinate? Because if it's years, it's.
Probably a little bit, right? It's OK to procrastinate a
little bit only for 5 minutes ormaybe a day compared to months
that you were doing. See how you're improving and
moving forward, but now you knowyou're you're doing it and you
know how to move forward with it.
Once you have this answer to. Wow, that's what makes sense.
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So I have this segment of uncomfortable truth.
So here we go. What's 1 of the hardest truths
you realize in your career or life?
One of the hardest truths, one hard truth was that it was me Co
creating my reality that it, that life wasn't happening to
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me. Life wasn't happening to me.
It was happening from me, through me and for me.
And once I realized that and with the antidote, then I
realized that I had to control and by Co creating what I have,
because everything outside of you is you, the person you can't
stand as a part of you, you can't stand.
They're just showing up to show you what you're not dealing
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with. That's why you're pissed off.
So once you deal with that part of you, that saboteur, and you
deal with the antidote, 2 thingshappened to that person.
They leave or they change because they still wanna be in
your world. So it was basically the that
hard truth that it wasn't the environment, it wasn't the
financial situation, it wasn't this person, it was me creating
my world to show a part of me soI could evolve.
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What I realized in retrospect, it's when you're living through
these stuff, yeah, there's everybody at the blame, but when
you look back and I've been through addiction.
I've been through hell and back a couple of times, and when I
relook at everything there, Oh my God, I put that chest piece
there every time. It was my fault, but I put
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myself in those situations and it's always in retrospect and
it's incredible. Remember, it wasn't your fault,
you were just protecting yourself.
That addiction is just this one thing.
That one thing is called as the addiction.
What one thing causes you Something in every situation is
always just one thing within you, and that's why this creates
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everything. Wow, what's the most
uncomfortable moral dilemma thatyou had to face?
Oh, one of the most uncomfortable was knowing that I
was innocent and I was being gone after by the the the
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medical and the chiropractic board due to politics.
And but once I because basicallywhat happens is we in New
Jersey, we were creating medicalcentres, being chiropractors and
maybe that was legal. We were the first ones to start
doing this and the medical boarddidn't like chiropractors to
have medical doctors and all that because we were helping
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people and they went after like five of us throughout the state.
And that was the start having noidea and and now, but the only
thing that saved me was my reputation.
People knew of my reputation as I was told my kids, you nothing
except your reputation. Make sure it's clean and that's
what saved me. I think that's one of the best
advice. My grandpa told me.
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He's like when you go in a room,to think that you still have
that hockey jersey on because your name is on yourself at all
times and you represent yourselfat all times.
You go in the room and you better leave looking good for
those people because you don't know if that person could be
your best friend. Maybe he'll teach you like meet
you your wife one day. You don't know.
So I treat everybody good and you represent yourself at all
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times. And I, I feel like people in the
new generation really don't livewith that because if you're not
on their cell phone, they don't really care.
They just pass in the road rightbeside you.
What's an aspect of self sabotage that you believe is
misrepresented in the movies or media?
That so sabotages all unusual fault compared to it being self
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protection. That's all self sabotages is
just self protection and that's what I discovered.
I think it's incredible because like I had never analyzed that
like that right when you said atthe beginning everything just
made sense of why we do it. And if you don't understand why
your body or your brain is doingsomething, how the fuck can you
fix it? Bro you need to know.
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You need to know the pattern to intercept it for sure.
And when you look at the bigger picture, what's something about
the world that no one seems willing to confront but you've
come to realize is the key to understanding our future?
It comes down to saboteur. I've had multi $1,000,000
companies ready to implode but once they understood their
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saboteur and how the board was interacting that it saved them.
I've had people ready to go to divorce attorneys the next day
but realized that they didn't hate each other, they were just
protecting themselves from each other.
I've had teenagers and problems,major problems and parents help
them. Veterans with PTSD showing that
that the PTSD was just protection, nothing wrong with
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them and so many things. So, yeah, when I say this sounds
so simple, and it is. That's what that's what took me
over 30 years. Yeah, this was like a year
thing. It was 30 years of trial and
error and really working with thousands and thousands of
people. And when I say this never fails,
it never fails. And we prove that.
(23:53):
I hope people are fucking recording this right now because
this is fucking so important andit's been gold.
Everything that's been coming, coming out of your mouth,
because literally there there's so much stuff that we don't
understand about that part of usthere because it's in us, all of
us, no matter who you are. When a lot of people realize
that their self saboteur like would say some people like go
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even in the in the worst way that there's no fixing them like
they're there's nothing possibleto do or there's always
something that maybe someone. Can do.
Oh, it's always there. It's whether their willingness
to use it, because again, it's more uncomfortable using the
antidote in the beginning because it's weird.
(24:38):
It's the bright brains like whatdo this?
I'm so used to doing this. But after a while they start
seeing this. And then the goal is for them to
use their antidote, the Tenon method, more on a subconscious
level than they are with their saboteur.
And knowing that if it does come, it's OK, you're just
protecting yourself. So your audience should write
this sentence down at the momentwhen you're stressed or
(25:01):
resistance or something, right? Just ask yourself, why am I
protecting myself? Why am I protecting myself at
this moment in time? And that will please help shift
some of the thoughts. There's a lot of people like I
think that they're not living self sabotage.
So what are some signs that people need to check out for
themselves of how to really, I don't know, analyze or see the
(25:25):
pattern of their self? If one of the main generic ways
is that you're not getting to the point of where you want to
be that your stock, you're in this loop or oh, here it is to
go even 10 years ago, I'm still in the same place type of thing.
Those are the people that are overthinking and they allow
those thoughts to just think they're so they want to get
(25:48):
perfect and they they get caughtup in this structure.
People that overly talk, they vomit on people, they talk too
much. They get people in people's
faces, people that are scattered.
They're all over the place. They can't, they can't focus on
one thing, so they go back and forth and just can't finish
tasks. People that are overly giving,
they give too much to other people because they don't want
to feel selfish, that they don'tknow that selfishness does not
(26:11):
equal self nourishment. That they feel resentful later
and then they sort of get upset and then go back and start
overly giving because they don'tvalue themselves.
People that are not expressing themselves well, they just hold
in and they're just to themselves.
And that's no. Good.
I don't know what the thinking of feeling.
So they guess, so they over process things, they have a hard
(26:32):
time disconnecting things like that.
I realize that a lot of girls have this problem in particular
are being so good hearted that they give and give well.
Literally a a lot of the bad people are going to take
advantage of that. And then you get destroyed or
years along the line and you didn't see shit because you're
so good hearted and you're trying to, you're trying to see
(26:53):
the good in everybody. But not everybody has some good.
And you can't just give it all to somebody in a relationship.
You should give as much as that person is giving you back
because if you you're giving like five times more than that
other person, well you're probably not in the right
relationship. But a lot of people don't
realize that. And I saw a lot of girls have
that trait of being so good hearted and they got destroyed
(27:15):
by by guys that took advantage of that.
How can parents identify this self sabotaging trait in their
children early to try to help them grow up?
I. Like protecting themselves all
their life there. Yeah, they need to learn how to
find it within themselves who are now program and then from
there they will then understand their children.
Then they'll see how each of their children are somewhat
(27:37):
different and how they should approach each child differently
instead of 1. Everybody in this like mold,
Yeah, that never works, right? A lot of people struggle in
their relationships and feel disconnected or misunderstood by
their partner. What's that?
I realized that you realize that, like some stuff that
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what's the secret? Understanding your partners
needs like without guessing, because a lot of people are in
relationships and I look at themin the restaurant, I'm like,
wow, those two are. I don't even hear what they say,
but I know they're not honest with each other and
relationships are based on honesty.
So what do you see that you you can fix?
Yeah, and that's again coming down to understanding your your
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partners in saboteur. Let me give you an example.
I had a guy I met a month previously and he calls me up a
month later and says I'm going to divorce attorney tomorrow.
What can you do? I'm like, what?
What I'm like, OK, wait, let's get your wife on, on.
Because I wanted to make sure they weren't, they hated each
other, but they were just protecting themselves.
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And then during the process of working with them in our
program, we saw major changes. And then you bring the children
into play. And now each one understood why
the other one handled the other child differently and how the
other one didn't agree with it. But now they understood why they
why that person reacted the way they did.
And when they came together and came up with a plan based on
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their both antidote of themselves as well as their
children, we've seen minimally 5to 6 marriages not going to this
divorce. So yeah, it's that simple.
Didn't say it was easy, but it'sthat simple and we can get there
faster. Communication is the key to
(29:27):
fucking success and no matter what and understanding your
children is very important. So if you don't understand self
sabotage yourself, all you need to figure that out and then
start analyzing your child and be like, OK, I could push him
into that direction. It won't it won't put him in the
corner for sure. And people often talk about the
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and and imposter syndrome and can you tell us a bit about
this? And but it seems like at your
work the digs even deeper in thepsychological roots of this.
Again, you talked to us about that.
Yeah, impostor syndrome is that you're not good enough that you
know you're. I see this one a lot of code.
Like a victim mindset. Yeah, well, there's not even
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that it's, it's like a like a coach, like some a business
coach or maybe a life coach or whatever.
And they're giving people advice, but they're not, they're
feel that they shouldn't be giving advice.
They're imposture because some of their lives aren't really
going that well. And I'm like, well, that's why
people hiring you because you'vegone through that, right?
I mean, if I'm, am I going to hire if I'm an addict, right?
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Am I going to hire a psychologist who just is book
smart or am I going to hire a psychologist who is also went
through addiction? Absolutely.
So that that experience is there, but but tending on
there's only three saboteurs. OK, so depending on what
saboteur you are that that imposture syndrome was created
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due to something totally different for each of the
saboteurs. So a lot of times that's not
addressed because they're doing more general understanding of
why they're impossible, why the imposter compared to the true
reason why they're going into that posture syndrome.
And once people understand that and they have the antidote, when
they start feeling that impostorsyndrome, they start using the
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antidote and they can get out ofit much faster and then moving
forward. So they don't feel that and they
they can help more and more people.
That is so true. Like yeah, I want somebody that
fucking lived it. Like I had somebody on the
podcast that talks about porn addiction and a lot of guys that
don't want to admit that in life.
And literally the guy like lost his career, job and everything
(31:35):
because he was addict. Like literally he had
everything. And literally he was watching
porn until crazy hours and having like one hour sleep to go
to work, to barely work. And literally it was a circle of
just fucking porn and alcohol non-stop.
And I sort of point like at the people in his business were
like, man, we gotta kick him outthere for him to go get help.
And now he he's an expert on this and helping people.
(31:59):
And he's like, I love hearing like the excuses guy say and
everything because I've been through it.
Don't worry, I know all of them broke.
And I was like, man, that is so true.
And, and for sure I don't want this girl that just studied porn
addiction. I want the person that went
through this shit and literally lost everything because of it
and came out stronger to help other people because that guy
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had lived through it completely.You really need to understand
yourself your sabotage first, like you said earlier.
You know, you have to understandyou why you're reacting to your
teenager. Are they like you and that's why
you're pissed off? Are they not telling you certain
things because you're demanding?Said for instance, I had a, I
had a, I was doing my workshop and I had a gentleman manager
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come up to me and said, you know, my son's always upstairs
playing video games. I can't get him down to interact
with the family. So I asked him a few questions.
We asked famous son Sequence never met his son.
He went back and his son within less than a week was downstairs
interacting with the family. Now she realized, and then the
relationship skyrocketed over two months.
So he realized he was the one pushing his son back in the room
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because he was making fun of him.
That's how he grew up because his son had a different
saboteur. He pushed them back in the room.
As he understood that, they started to react and he let him
to be who he was and doing all the things.
It's crazy how just that understanding could.
Change. Exactly.
And then we realized because your profession and your
business and your personal life are one, he was doing the same
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thing in his business. And as we shift that, his
business skyrocketed as well. It's crazy how just the the
little switch of understanding why somebody is like this.
Like no matter if it's just somebody that says something, if
you understand why that person is always depressed and
everything, you won't judge him for it.
But it's the same thing with everything that Doctor Agrios is
(33:53):
talking about. There's a lot of information out
there on productivity because literally there's apps shitting
themselves every day. It's crazy.
How does your 24 hour predicted productivity boost method
actually help people ditch procrastination and make a real
progress? Because I'm still stuck in
procrastination today. There are some stuff that is
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easy for me, but there's some stuff that people are like, are
you? Are you, are you kidding me?
You can't do that. Me opening the mail is a huge
problem because it forces me to do something no matter if it's a
bill or check. I'm pissed because somebody's
forcing me as an adult to do something and that there for me
to it takes sometimes at four tosix months.
And I imagine if you open your mail only four to six months as
(34:35):
well, you got you got bills and problems for sure.
And that happens constantly for me and I I even went to jail
because of it because I didn't give my address.
And when I was in jail, I was like, isn't this incredible?
I lost my freedom just because II I didn't open my fucking mail
and I knew it was all me, all mecompletely.
And when you think and I I come back home, but at least I'll fix
(34:58):
that because literally I lost myfreedom bro.
Like I I was praying to God crying in there for 46 hours and
it was all me and I still don't fix that shit.
Like like how could? Your saboteur, once you
understand that and the antidotethat will precede this all the
time with people just like yourself, just why you're not
doing it? Because it's more because you
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are thinking that you have more pain to opening up mail than not
until it gets to that point. So yeah, again, the
procrastination is just protecting you from what you
think is going to be more pain by opening it.
Wow, because I never liked authority as a life when I was
a. Kid, you don't even like you
telling yourself what to do. That's so real, OHT, that's
(35:44):
good. So we're at the critical
thinking part. What's 1 of the greatest lessons
that you learned in your life, that or career that you still
apply today? My antidote, it's helped me
tremendously, helped me to create a successful businesses,
a second great new marriage reinforce my family, everything
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I tell everybody that has happened to me and I
consistently use it. And when I don't use it, I don't
get on myself. I go OK, why am I protecting
myself and then I continue using.
You put yourself back in self-awareness trying to analyze
right away. When you you see you're not
using it. You're like, I'm probably
fucking up somewhere. Wow, wow, that is a strong
mindset too. Wow man, that is good.
(36:28):
What's your personal favorite achievement in your career or
your life that you're more of a most proud of?
Of discovering this this this thing always comes down to this
manager I've I've the vote is 33years of my life to this.
And I, I find that fucking incredible.
I had a guy on that studied lifeafter death for the past 40
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years and it was incredible because I'm so dead.
Just believe in fact there to the highest degree.
So for somebody like me that believes in facts while you're
dead and it's over to the breezeoff and after I had the podcast
with him, I was realizing, wow, it's so it seems so beautiful.
What's after there because he analyzed everybody that went
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through death and came back there and he that's what he was
checking and he was realizing that there they say that Oh joy,
only God can judge me while he realized that God doesn't judge
at all. They're the only person that's
going to judge up there is yourself of yourself and nothing
else, and you just understand everything and there's no pain
nowhere. And I'm like, wow, that's why
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they say hell is on earth because and I was like, wow, if
if a death is this after Wow, I was really seeing it from a
beautiful view instead of seeingit over.
Oh, it's all it's all done. So there's so much to learn when
somebody dedicates this much time, because I won't.
So that's why we have people like you on, and I really
(37:52):
appreciate that. What's a a surprising conspiracy
or just a theory that people would be surprised that you
believe? I would say that I would be.
I just think differently. I just think they matter.
What happens to my way? I look at it as a benefit for
(38:14):
me, no matter how good or bad itis.
I just look at it as a benefit and I look find out why is it
here in my life and how can I benefit from it.
Like no matter what happens. Good.
OK, yeah, that's it. That's it.
And can you share an instance where your intuition, intuition,
or your gut feeling led you to make a dish, a decision, or a
challenge that traditional logicand expectations like wouldn't
(38:38):
do? Close my practice.
I've had people like you're out of your mind.
My patients were really upset with me, but I knew that I had a
higher calling. And and I I think I know the
answer to the last one because of what you you said right
before. What's an example of a situation
where thinking outside the box helped you solve a problem that
(38:59):
others couldn't? Dealing with my children.
My ex had put a wedge between myself and my kids and I one
time I just said if I never see my children again I'm OK.
And I really meant it because I was over giving, giving.
I was just losing. Myself fighting for nothing.
(39:19):
And when I let that go, things started to shift because I took
care of me. I used my antidote at that
moment. And our relationship is strong.
No one can ever break our relationship.
That, that is some beautiful stuff.
So I'll ask just one last one, last one.
Can you share a bit more about where you want this legacy to go
(39:39):
and how? How do you think you can expand
this to the masses like international?
This is what we do. We do have international
clients. So we have, we have three ways
people get to understand the T now method one, we have a, a, a
group coaching course where people get one on ones with me
and group coaching with myself. I do, I do four and eight hour
(40:03):
workshops with companies. We just did one for the Army and
then I do have a membership. Site where people come in and
they can least start understanding this and so all
monthly relate a monthly membership fee.
So we have three different ways depending on what the people
need and where they're at with their mindset and what they want
(40:23):
to do. Perfect.
So where can everybody find yourbooks?
Are there on Amazon. Yeah, so they can go to my
website. OK, I'll put them on the site.
The website, right? And then they if they're
interested in the membership site, they can go there if
they're interested in and if there are business owner,
executive, sales professional orentrepreneur, they can go into
(40:46):
the other, the other one, they'll be down in your podcast
links. It's a 12 minute video goes a
little deeper what we do. And then they can have to see if
the group coaching is right for them.
OK. So thanks again for coming on.
It was an honor to have. You.
It was great conversation. I hope this was valuable for you
and your audience. For sure it was.
(41:08):
So thanks everybody and have a great weekend.
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