Post-Season + Q&A w/ co-host Lea Piper-Budd

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Co-host Lea Piper-Budd, aka Jordan's wife, jumps on the podcast for her first episode. We overview our western season as it concludes and discuss upcoming plans for some episodes. Then we dig into a few questions sent in by listeners.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
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though I can't reach their own.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I don't like water the bubbles.
It's good yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
All right, welcome back to Toolkit Jordan Bud here,
and I have my new co-host inwith me, lea Piper.
Lea Piper Bud, potentially.
Also yeah, potentially, leaPiper-Bud, that's potentially.
The law says that we are 100%married.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yes, the law doesn't quite say that there's a dash in
my name yet.
Yeah, that's true, that's allthe paperwork.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's all the paperwork that's going to change
.
But, anyways, yeah, we're goingto start doing a lot more
episodes together.
So far, I think this will beour fifth podcast, but I've
mostly have done these by myselfand we just thought, like you
hunt with me a ton, even thoughyou know it's not like I guess

(01:26):
you have a real job, whereas Ikind of have a real job too, but
it's just a little differentkind of real job, not the like
have to go to work every day,Right Like to an office, not an
eight to five.
Yeah, you don't really have aneight to five either now.
Oh, it's a seven to seven Forthree days a week, for three

(01:48):
days a week, and then you getfour days off and that's lovely
yeah.
So that change, that changedthis year and that's been
awesome for hunting stuff, butyou hunt with me so much anyways
, we share a lot of the samehunting style, thank goodness,
and yeah, yeah, we just do a lotof the same thing.

(02:09):
So I was like it'd be a lotbetter if we could have a combo
and kind of bounce things offeach other and dig into our
hunts and kind of recap thingsthat we've been doing, because I
think some of it too.
Instagram tends to getglorified, glorified.
You just pick and choose whatyou put on there, right, like

(02:30):
some of the things that areboring to me.
Why would I want to put thoseon?
Yeah, the gram.
But I think to videos, like wedo a ton of videos.
We've had I don't know you andI have probably done five now
four or five.
We've got another like coupleat least two more in the works,
but that the video stuff kind ofgets shortened up to could be a

(02:53):
really long hunt 10 day hunt,seven day hunt, whatever and
it's going to get compressedinto 15 minutes, 20 minutes and
some of that is like my style ofediting.
That's just how I'm going toedit and I'm not going to change
Like I'm not going to do a dayby day, like take you through
every little thing in a video,that's just not me.

(03:13):
But I'll do that in a podcastand I think that's something
kind of cool too.
We can even recap old videosand like have a video playing
and we can talk about it andbreak that, break the whole hunt
down.
More like that.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
So, even like, even if you're going like, day to day
, you're not going to talk aboutevery single minute of the day
and, like you know, glassing forhours and hours and hours.
Like it's still such a bridgeversion that.
I mean you can cover a wholehunt 10 day and still like a 15
minute podcast, but you'retalking kind of day by day.
Yeah, you missed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
So that's the direction.
We're still going to do gearstuff.
We're definitely going to tielike gear Still a huge part of
you know me and what I like todo and just what I like in
general.
So that's still going to belike a part of the podcast for
sure, breaking gear down, ofwhat we've tried and not tried
and all that stuff.
And then we're still going tohave people on too.

(04:12):
I just had Evan SymbiitaSymbiita custom knives on and he
talked about just kind of arundown, all about knives, and
so we're still going to havestuff like that.
But yeah, you're going to see alot more of Leah on the podcast
.
Glad to be here, she's pumped.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
She's pumped, nervously pumped.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, what do you?
What do you do?
You should tell.
Tell people what you do.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
I'm a surgical assistant, and so I assist
surgeons during surgeries tohelp them have good outcomes and
, yeah, kind of work around thesurgical suite and make sure
that they have everythingthey're going to need for the
surgeries and stuff as well.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
So right.
So yeah, new and new andupcoming stuff.
So basically what we're goingto talk about in this episode.
We just wrapped up our westernseason.
For the most part, you stillhave a tag.
We both might have Nebraskatags going in.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
We might just put one in our pocket, in case a bit
banger comes out.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
You just never know you never, know you got to
always be prepared.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Scouts on her right, Right.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
So yeah, so we just wrapped up the western season.
For the most part, today islike the second of November and
we're going to talk in thispodcast.
We're going to talk a littlebit about the hunts that we did,
but we're getting packed upready to go to Nebraska to guide
for well outfit.
I guess running water huntingis our outfitting business there

(05:44):
in Nebraska, so we've got ahunter out there now in my guide
.
Cole is taking care of them.
So we're going to, yeah, getall packed up, move over.
It's about a 14 hour drive, soI'm excited to get over there.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, the deer are moving.
How many cameras do we have outthis year?
26?
.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
There was 32 at one point and some of them have ran
out of battery.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
We have covered country this year with cameras.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
It's insane.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Onyx is just full of camera pins, otherwise we'd be
losing them left and right whichwe probably will still lose too
.
I would say because we movedthem and didn't move the pins or
something like that.
But we've been getting lots ofpretty good pictures and stuff.
But it's like we haven't beenable to be there as much this
year because we've been reallyfocusing on our Idaho deer hunts
and our guide, cole, has beenover there and just sending us

(06:38):
videos of what he's spotting andit's getting me amped.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
He's like glassing and picking up bucks that we've
never seen on camera.
And that's one thing aboutcameras too.
That's kind of interesting islike we have 32 of them out
there and they're not, they'rejust I've got a few bucks and
he's picked up.
He had five shooters in frontof him this morning.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
And it goes to show that it's just like a perfect
proof that cameras are not goingto do all the scouting for you.
No, he boots on the ground.
Glass in your eyes is the bestway to do it, otherwise you're
just going to.
You're never going to know whatall's out there if you're not
going to go and put the time inand look.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah for sure.
So we're super pumped to getover there and start looking at
bucks.
We'll be doing that pretty muchall in November and I mean
we'll be there November andDecember.
There's like some break timesin there, like over Thanksgiving
and stuff like that, that wedon't run any hunters.
But, yeah, excited, kind ofexcited, to get over there.
Then some new I've never donebefore.

(07:39):
I don't.
Well, I guess the meat eaterguys haven't done a tour, a live
tour.
They had one set up and thenthey had to cancel it.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
I think they did.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I think they did one I've.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I heard their podcast and they did one yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
So yeah, december 6th they're going to be in Denver
for the first stop of the livetour on this trip, and I'm going
to be there with them.
Bram bram, bram bram.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Scared.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
So that's, that's December 6th.
You can get tickets if you goto themeatercom, if you're
around, to be cool.
I think there's like Chester'sgoing to play some music,
spencer's going to be there,we're going to do a trivia
podcast episode and then, um,yeah, I'll be Steve and Yanni

(08:28):
and I'm not sure who else.
I think Derek Wolf is going tobe at the Denver one.
So, yeah, that'd be cool.
Go check out, uh, check outtickets and then, uh, also with
me either my caribou episodejust dropped and I did with the
honest um, there's an archerycaribou hunt.
Um, yeah, we were hunting the 40mile herd got flown in, dropped

(08:48):
off.
I think we were only there forlike seven days or five days,
like five days of hunting, um,but yeah, I shot a shot a
caribou on camera.
It was kind of cool with my bowand yeah, that's just on their
YouTube channel, I think.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, I think it's a really good, uh good video so
far.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Um.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
I mean, I obviously got to watch it a few times, but
it seems like the feedback'sbeen pretty great.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, seems like the feedback and the feedback can be
dicey and she can be rough Realdicey, so I I don't even look
at it, honestly, I don't evenlook at it.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
I proofread and I just send her screenshots of the
funny things people say andleave out the negative stuff,
because there's always going tobe stuff you can.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
You shouldn't spend much of your time in the
comments.
Um but talk about.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Great is that caribou , I think, like top two things
I've ever eaten, like it is sogood and number one, that boy
right there.
It's all sheep.
That was the best.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
For sure, we were taking roasts that were like for
an elk or something would belike a.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
The hardest chewing piece of meat on them, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
And we were cutting them up into steaks and they
were like, so good, better thantenderloin.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, it was unreal.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, amazing so far, of the things that you've shot
in Alaska, I am like, yes, shootmore things in Alaska.
I don't know if it's their dietor what they're eating yeah.
Man, everything just is so good.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Like unreal.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, so if you ever go to Alaska and you shoot
something like, don't be givingaway any of that meat no.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Bring it all back with you for sure, um, yeah, so
that we got a new productreleased today with a partner I
work a bit with six hour andthey have um, they came out a
little earlier this year orlater on last year they came out
with the what they call the X10, which is it's a P three, 20.

(10:44):
That's a 10 mil, so they callit their X 10.
So this is the original onethat came out.
It's a full size and it's great.
I carried this on the caribouhunt, this exact pistol.
But then today they justdropped their new comp, which is
, uh, it's basically likethey're compact, they've got a

(11:06):
little under a four inch barreland then the slide also has a
compensator here on the top.
So, a little bit, you knowsmaller, little easier to carry.
Uh, 15 round mag.
You've got a little pick railhere.
You could put a light on orsomething.
I've got a light that I like tothrow on it.

(11:27):
Um, then it's also optic readyso you can throw a, uh, you can
throw a red dot on it and, yeah,that's literally brand, brand
new Um, today, what is it?
The second?
Yeah, November 2nd, they justcame out with this.
So, um, I think this will be.

(11:48):
This is going to be a nicepistol for like people wanting
to carry, like, especially inbear country.
Um, we were supposed to go on aWyoming hunt this year that was
going to be a bear country andum, it's actually going on right
now but we're just not going tomake it with some timing
restrictions.
But, um, like this is what I wasgoing to carry for sure, going

(12:09):
on to like more updates and like, okay, I mean, we already did
see, we just wanted to runthrough basically what Hunts
that we've done this year so far.
We're gonna dive into some ofthem more in detail.
Some of them were can probablycombine together, but we're
gonna run, run through him here.
So the first one, the first onewe did, was Utah.

(12:31):
So we hunted Utah for archeryand muzzle loader season.
Archery opened.
Basically, the reason I decidedto draw that tag is because I
was, uh, self-filming it ameet-eater episode in Idaho and
that needed to be with a rifle.
So that basically meant Icouldn't hunt archery season and
I was like I can't not huntarchery mule deer, like I just

(12:54):
can't.
It would kill me if I let.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Literally just die on the inside to not have a bow in
her hands during our tree.
Yeah, that would suck.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I mean they're just my favorite thing ever so.
Um, we got to looking around alittle bit and just was like,
well, haven't been to Utah.
One of the reasons I like thatis because it opened so early
mid-August yeah, super early,and we didn't even go down
really when it opened.
We didn't go down right away.
We went down a little later.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, we did one one scout tripmid-summer.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yes, we did.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
That was huge, it was a big kind of like figure out
your road systems, figure outwhere we're gonna camp, x, y, z
type of thing.
We started in one area, weended up gosh.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
I'm eating a completely different area than
we thought we were gonna startout with mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I think we covered like 200 miles on the side by
side.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
That first week on the first day.
Was it the day, the first day?
We did 150 miles?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I think it was like we almost ran out of gas.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Like it was.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
It was just like figuring out the roads and like
you know what on X says versuswhat you see is Completely, you
know, yeah, different sometimes,just like what you think it's
gonna be like, and so it was a.
That was a good learningExperience.
Otherwise that would have beenlike day one hunting and it
would have been tragic, yeah.
So, yeah, we did that once andthen we went down there the

(14:17):
second weekend.
I think is when we startedactual archery hunting.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, yeah so, and then we did a pun like a week,
and then went back Home.
You had to work.
I went back and I ended upshooting the target buck that we
were after With my bow.
So, um, I was cool and we endedup going back.
For muzzle loader season isreal, real tough.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
It was a it was real for muzzle later season it was
really wet.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, rainy all the time Super windy, socked in.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Couldn't, couldn't glass like we normally do, and
yeah yeah, it was like adifferent, a different.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, the bucks were just.
I mean, you know that was laterSeptember, so you'd expect the
bucks to be just.
You know they shed their velvet, they're in the timber or like
a little more in the trees, youknow, not afraid as much to go
in there.
And it was just hard, I don'tknow.
It was just tough.
Um, it was a humblingexperience.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
We'll dive into that.
It was rough.
You know, when you go in youscout something.
In the summer you get to earlyarchery hunt and the deer Pop
because they still have thatnice orange coat, brown coat.
You know you get to see a lotof deer there.
They have no pressure yet.
Like it just felt like it wasLike so fun, um, to go down

(15:31):
there and like get to do thatearly archery and get a see a
bunch of deer.
And then it was like wow, likeslap in the face when it came to
muzzle loader hunting becauseit was like, and they're hidden.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
I mean that that's just kind of early versus late
season or not even.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
I mean that could just.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
that was a two week spread, really, mm-hmm, it
wasn't that much, but god a lotof change a lot of change.
A lot of change, so We'll we'lldive into all that more Um.
But then I got it a coupleNebraska elk.
Yeah, my brother-in-law.
Yeah, you shot like a mid threeforties bull.
We had another guy that came inearly october.

(16:09):
We shot it Three.
What was he?
365?
It's very close to three, three, 65.
I think yeah, so mid 360s bullsuper fun hunting cornfield elk.
Mm-hmm, a little different thanwe're used to, but uh, it was
just and rifle during september,you know, oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
So Nebraska.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, nebraska has their, their elk seasons.
That's residents only, it'sonce in a lifetime.
Draw for, uh, for residents.
But then like, even if you like, I'm technically a non resident
now but I can still draw a tagbecause we're landowners.
So they give you a little Idon't know incentive there, I

(16:50):
guess, for feeding the elk.
Um, and then we hunted Idahobasic.
So, uh, there were some twistsand turns in there.
That was september.
What did we do?
So we went and hunted the firstcouple weeks september, mm-hmm,
um, so that's, that's how thatwent.
So I shot my buck in august, Ithink Might yeah, still in

(17:14):
august or very early very earlySeptember.
Yeah, I'll have to look at thedates on that.
But then, um, we yeah we huntedin Idaho, tried to get you a
bull With uh archery equipment,looked for bucks at the same
time.
It was sparse, it was prettysparse.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I saw one bull.
Yeah we made a big play all theway around and uh Kind of got
where we thought he was gonna beand got in and called and
silence.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, I couldn't find him again.
We ended up running into a, Iwould say like a very well-known
, pretty well-known person,mm-hmm.
I don't know how he is aboutelk hunting, but he was having
trouble too.
So I was like, oh, maybe Ishouldn't feel as bad.
Yeah, like it's not just us.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, you know, sometimes you're like man.
Do I suck?
Yeah, um, and then you run intoother people and they're like
man, I can't find shit.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Oh good.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
It's not just me, oh yeah, and talking to other
friends and stuff.
This year seemed like it waskind of a Mutual thing, um yeah,
that everyone was on thestruggle bus a bit.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, and even deer.
That's kind of when I startedbeing like oh man, our deer
populations are like I, just wehad trouble finding bucks.
Mm-hmm, even when we werescouting I mean I don't think I
think the one good four point.
I saw he was Young and I passedhim, did not shoot him.

(18:36):
I hope he made it through, butthat was like the four point
that I saw, I think.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Besides, like we saw, I guess we saw some small, but
during season, but not Nothingthat had like, just like that
solid frame.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, that, that one you're talking about had like a
solid frame.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, um, we saw some that had, you know, like a
crown point, or or you know somethat had like great back forks,
but we're crabbing the front ornone in the front.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, three points, stuff like that.
It's kind of you know it wasjust.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
You know, if you're you're searching for, like those
nice solid framed four pointbucks.
Um, just for us anyways.
It just seemed like westruggled to find him this year.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, we did um, so yeah, we did that.
Uh, I went and hunted ColoradoFor about two days and then my
bow got stolen.
Um, so then I left and uh, wentto Nebraska and actually ended
up.
That's when we shot, that'swhen we all cut, all right,
guided Elk in Nebraska, but, um,I don't know.

(19:39):
We could dive into that morelater.
I'm sure we will comes down tolike I'm an idiot and also
people suck, and um, yeah, wejust we're hunting.
Long story short, we ended uphunting some BLM and uh, it was
pretty tight and with, I mean,it was just little sections of
BLM and we were trying to cut abull off and Uh, we ended up we

(20:04):
got back to the vehicle or theguy that we were with.
He was off hunting on his owntoo, and so I just like yard
sailed all my stuff and waseating snacks and you know,
taking jackets and stuff off,and kind of reorganized my pack.
And Uh, we got ready to gothrough my pack in the back,

(20:25):
looked in the backseat of thepickup, there's a bow cam.
I'm like, all right, my bow'sin here, we're all good.
Jumped in left Freakin figuredout that that I didn't have my
bow and uh, we went back to withthat spot and it was gone.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, somebody somebody definitely snagged it.
Snagged it through it in andnever looked back.
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Unfortunate like so annoying forgetfulness Happens
um, but you know, I guess we'rekind of used to people not Not
taking it was a bad part ofcolor out.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
I mean, yeah it.
I mean it could happen anywherebut yeah, it could definitely
most people would just leave it.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, yeah so.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Whatever.
At the same time that Jordanwas on her struggle bus in
Colorado, I uh had a buddy ofmine that you're a really sweet
tag down in Utah for archery elkand was able to go down, messed
around with alpha outfitters alittle bit and just got to like,
go and enjoy A great, like 26point draw unit for archery elk

(21:29):
in Utah, which I probably neverget to do.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, I mean it was, it was like.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yellowstone.
It was.
It was amazing.
Um, we, we called in like 10different bowls and got to be
super picky and got to see someamazing bowls and, uh, I took it
as a learning trip, like I wentdown there and just wanted to.
Like you know, in Idaho youmight get a chance to call in a
couple of year Like we werecalling in, you know, five a day
over there, and so it was justlike getting to learn Techniques

(21:56):
, calling techniques and when toyou know be whacking on trees
and sounding like you're a bigbowl and when not.
You know when to, when to beloud, when to shut up and stuff
like that.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
So that was.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
That was super fun.
Um, I kind of gave up a weekendof hunting for a weekend of
knowledge and it was worth it.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Oh yeah, I yeah you kind of like you had an option
and I was just when you told mewhat tag he had.
I was like I would go do thatif I were you.
It was super fun.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah it, I had a great time and I was able to
film a little bit of it and gotsome some pretty cool footage
and stuff that I'm Going to sendit send to my buddy that had
the tag and right, uh, it was.
It was pretty fun, mm-hmm, yeah, so fun, make sure you just
want to draw limited entry tags.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
All right, then let's see, that was end of September
and then October 10th is whenseason started here in In Idaho
and, uh, yeah, I filmed for thefirst 10 days.
Um, I filmed for me eater.
So I ended up, I backpacked in,I was in snow, it was rough.

(23:04):
Now there's tons of people thatseem like this year backpacked
out.
Just looked over a ton ofcountry, I think I moved to
areas like four times and, yeah,found some bucks, passed on.
All well, yeah, all of them.
And then we ended up cutting.
Like the last three days ofwhen we had that tag, you got

(23:24):
off work and came and hung outand hunted with me and we had a
freaking wolf, oh yeah forgotabout the wolf already.
Yeah, we had a big white wolf,915 yards, and I just screwed
around long enough.
It was almost one of thosethings that I we had come up the
trail and we knew that therewas a dude.

(23:47):
I thought he was on the ridge.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I thought he was on that ridge too.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
We had seen him so I thought he climbed up the ridge.
He didn't.
He went a different spot andclimbed up a different place.
But so we thought he's on thatridge, so we went to a different
spot.
We're sitting here, wolf howl.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
I assumed it was him.
I was like all that huntersmessing around over there, I
wasn't even gonna look.
And I was like I'll just lookalong the ridge and see if I can
see him sitting on the rocksover there.
And I look along the ridge andit took me like five seconds and
I see this big old white wolf.
And I was like, oh crap,there's an actual wolf right
there.
And I think we were all, wewere just like what Really Cool?

(24:29):
Well, it was hard to like jumpinto that Like we're gonna do
something real fast.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
My initial thing is like we gotta film him, like I
got, I want to get film of him.
Like you don't see wolves veryoften and I wanted to get
footage of him.
And he was a long ways away andso I was already setting up my
tripod, I think, and I just likehurried up, got my spotter,
swung it over, clipped my phoneon and started filming him.
And then I was like I wonderhow far that is?

(24:55):
And I looked it was 915, it's14 and a half MOA for the creed
more.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
And I was like zzzzzzzzz you can hear on the
video click, click, click, clickYep and then it he just moved
over a little bit and then wejust kinda it was like, Do we
move?
Closer.
Do we not move closer?
No, you wanna get closer and Iwas like I just let him have it.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
But then he was kinda like, went behind some stuff,
he was moving and I don't knowit just screwed up Hindsight
with the setup that Jordan hason her rifle, Like I should have
just laid down.
It was like so dead calm thatmorning, especially right at
that time.
It was real nice, so, but afterthat it was a big bodied.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I mean we're assuming it's a male, but it was a big
bodied wolf.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
It was a big wolf.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I got a wolf a couple of years ago and that thing
looked like it was double thesize of the wolf that I got.
I mean just big old belly onhim.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
He was big yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
He sat there and howled and it was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
The first.
When I first looked at him, Iwas just like make sure it's not
a husky.
That's literally what I thought.
I looked at his face and I waslike it's not a

Speaker 2 (26:03):
dog it was kinda crazy because last year or the
year before we were hunting andwe ran into some sheep herders
and that sheep herder.
It actually told me what ridgeline he thought that there was a
den.
And when we were going up therethat day I had talked to Jordan
and was like, yeah, like that'sthat, like we're gonna be right

(26:24):
on that ridge that the sheepherder told us about.
I had an onyx pin just droppedon there from talking to that
sheep herder and then we wentand sat up there and saw a wolf
and I was like holy crap, okay,like that guy was right on yeah,
yeah, it was cool.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
So then that whole thing kind of fizzled out and
then you ended up finding a buckdown and like some burn.
It was a burn, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, oh yeah it was.
It was an old burn.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, it was a lot of buck brush and the bottom of it
was just thick nasty.
I was like how the hell did youeven see that thing?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I think he was re-bedding, we bedded him down,
oh yeah.
I think, he had been bedded.
It was like 10.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
And but he was in the sun.
I mean, yeah, you're standingin the sun, it was cold.
Like you're soaking a littlebit of that sun up, but low on
the mountain from where you knowreally, from where we had been
looking.
He was real low on the mountainbut yeah, found him, got him,
got him bedded, stocked in, youshot him, yep, and saved the
rest for the actual body.

(27:25):
Yeah, yeah, and then, like Italked about, I had a Wyoming
deer tag and just not gonna beable to make it this year, so
I've got a Wyoming white tail,only tag.
Yeah, that was a leftover.
We're thinking maybe it wasn'ta good idea.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
It was kind of one of those things where it was like,
man, these leftover tags likeyou don't have to use your
points Like we should put in forsomething and just kind of like
looked for a little bit and waslike, oh, that one looks all
right, like we'll put in forthat, and I've never shot like a
really nice white tail, and soI was like I should just like
kind of try and do that andmaybe I could archery hunt it

(28:03):
Like if I wanted to.
And then I drew it and then wekind of like hopped on Onyx
again and started to likedissect the zone out and we were
like, oh no.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
I drove through it Last time I went to Nebraska.
I drove through it and I waslike ooh.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I mean, maybe there's potential everywhere, but it's
not like we have a nice place inNebraska to shoot a big white
tail or anything.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Well, someone would have to let me shoot one.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well, we just have to get clients through and we're
going to be there later, sohonestly it kind of makes sense,
it might it might.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
You never know, I would feel bad, I think, on our
place, just like wanting toleave them for next year's
clients.
You know like if you're feelingbad, You're over it.
There's a nice one left at theend of the season where he's
ours.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Oh, maybe.
I heard there's buck out therewith a turned down main beam you
never know.
And I was like oh, boy.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
I would like to get eyes on that.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh, we will.
Yeah, all right, real quick, alittle call to action here.
So the website for the podcast,jordan-budcom it has all of our
videos on it too, that are.
They're all on YouTube anyways,but if you kind of want to one
stop shop, that's where you cango.
So it's Jordan-budcom and youcan send an email to ask a

(29:17):
question or you can submit avoicemail.
So you hit this little buttonthat says leave a voicemail, and
then it lets you talk in yourphone and you can like leave it,
which is cool, because then itlets me play it live.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, so we don't like just reading your question.
It's your actual voice poppingon asking us a question, and
then we will answer it.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
It's just, it's kind of cool, I think.
So we're going to do a little Qand A here.
Some of these I've answeredbefore, but we're going to do it
again.
Go to headlamp.
I have the Aktik Core, petzlPetzl.
Petzl.
Aktik Core.
Yours does not have therechargeable battery.

(30:01):
No, it doesn't, but can you put?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
it in there.
I think you can, it's just anextra.
They have to buy on half 50bucks, maybe more or something
like that, and apparently I wasbeing cheap, but yeah, I love
that thing.
Like you can beam out a ways,it's got three different
settings.
So if you're just, if you don'tneed much, you're trying to be
sneaky, you don't want to beblasted and light everywhere you
can turn it really down, or ifyou're coming out at night and

(30:25):
you just want to be able to seeyou a long ways in front of you.
You can turn it up and reallyget to get some distance.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, so that's the same one that I have, but I have
the rechargeable battery.
So the cool thing about it isthey have these little, it's
like a little square batterythat has a mini USB plug on it
and you can recharge it, whichis cool.
So you can recharge it and itrecharges pretty quickly.
Or, if you're in a bind, youcan pop that battery out and you

(30:52):
can put two triple or threetriplAs Two, two Triple A's, I'm
pretty sure.
Yeah, a couple triple A regularbatteries.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
It lasts a long time even with just the triple A's.
But I think, it probably lastseven longer with your
rechargeable battery.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah yeah, I think so too and I like it.
And then, like, if it sensesthat your battery is getting low
enough on the highest beam,it'll like if you have it on the
highest beam it'll flash acouple times and it'll just drop
you down to the lower, like thenext lower beam, as you're
running out of battery.
So then you kind of know that.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
The end is near.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
The end is near.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Well, and that's nice , because then you can charge it
.
Whereas sometimes you don'trealize that you're not as like.
The light's not as bright asmaybe it could be.
And then all of a sudden you'relike, why can't?
I see, oh, I need new batteries, and like for me this year, all
of a sudden, in our trailer wedidn't have any triple A
batteries and I was like no, butlike with the rechargeable
battery, it's nice Pop it out,charge it overnight and you're

(31:46):
ready to rip again?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, so I like that one.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
But I think we got a lot of questions on your CIG
cross barrel, because you've gota pretty fancy barrel on your
CIG cross Do you want to talkabout that?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Oh it's a wow.
You're really like reading thathere.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Is that the?

Speaker 1 (32:05):
next question yeah, I was like, really you're not
going to go off of our sheetthat we have here.
And then I looked and I waslike it's the next question on
the sheet.
It's what co-hosts things.
Strange, yeah, so it's a proofresearch.
It's a 20-incher.
The cool thing about the crossis well, with proof in the cross

(32:30):
.
So if you want to lighten up alittle bit and go to like carbon
fiber barrel, like proofresearch has, they have barrels
that are pre-fit to the crossalready.
So you can they're like youliterally.
You basically like you spin abarrel off.
You take an AR barrel nutwrench and you can spin that off

(32:53):
, pull the barrel out and youcan put a new barrel into it and
spin it back on.
So you can do that withmultiple calibers too, which
makes it really cool.
So like the 300 Win Mag justcame out, which is their Magnum,
so now they have long actionsout.
So if I get something like aseven PRC barrel, which is what

(33:16):
I want on a seven PRC barrel, Ican change out that barrel from
the 300 Win Mag barrel to theseven PRC, the bolt faces are
the same and I can literally goright into shooting seven PRC,
just like that.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
It's that's cool as hell.
Yeah, you don't have to own awhole another rifle, you just
have to own another barrel.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Exactly so if you're going to buy a barrel like that
they're not serial numbered foryou know, like FFL serial
numbered type you don't have togo through an FFL so they can
ship it right to your house.
So, yeah, you have the one gunreceiver, whatever that, you can
put different barrels on andchange your calibers and you can
also, with that you can changethe bolt faces as well, if

(34:06):
they're available.
So if you have like, if youwant to switch barrels to a
different short action but thebolt faces different, you can
get bolt faces that and you canchange it yourself.
So you can take that bolt apart.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Like there's no like having to take it to a gunsmith
and like doing a bunch of workand stuff.
No, you can do at home, plugand play.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
You can do yourself yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Oh yeah, that's cool.
So what's like the like biggest, like pro for a proof, research
barrel, like for a carbon fiberbarrel versus a regular barrel?

Speaker 1 (34:38):
You lighten up some weight.
I couldn't tell you how much.
I think some of the steelbarrels that I looked at were
like four pounds and some theseproof barrels I think are two
pounds eight ounces, two pounds12 ounces up in there.
So you can shave some weight bydoing that and then Do they

(35:00):
regulate heat better if they'recarbon fiber?

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I don't know.
Okay, I just didn't know.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Like.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I'm not a gun nut and so I just look at it and I'm
like that looks nifty.
But I just didn't know Like ahundred percent.
Like if someone were lookinginto that, like why would you
look into changing that up?
And it's mainly for weight.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
I think, yeah, that I mean.
That's mainly why a lot ofpeople are looking at carbon
fiber is weight and then alsoit's cool, it's super cool.
It's cool because they'recarbon fiber really and proof
makes super nice barrels.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, accuracy is going to be the time.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, I mean they make good barrels, so it's what
a lot of people want.
You know, a lot of people getreal deep into tricking their
stuff out and like making it aslight as they can or like they
want things a certain way.
I totally get it.
So yeah, that's why they'redoing that.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
And then you have on the end of that bad boy, oh, I
have a suppressor.
Yeah yeah, I have a sicksuppressor, so and it's nice,
pretty nice, cause we aren'tblasting each other's ears out
anymore.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, Basically you get the same.
I had a, I had a break, I hadan MDT break on well, that same
gun before I got my suppressorin and so I was running a break
on it and like I really likedthe how it handled recoil with
the break, but it was loud likeloud, loud, loud.

(36:24):
So that suppressor youbasically like you get the
benefits of a break without thesound, without the noise, which
is kind of nice.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
So your buddies that you're hunting with.
Don't hate you.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yes, or your wife doesn't yell at you.
You shouldn't yell at me.
You should know I'm shooting,so you should cover your ears.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
I should put in those headphones that are automatic
noise canceling.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, I freaking.
I bought her a pair of walkersyeah, they're a walker in ear
Like you can talk, and then,when you you know, do something
loud at.
Yeah, she didn't even knowwhere they were for months.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Well, we went to Hawaii and then, on the travel
back, they were misplaced and Iwas in a panic.
I even told my mother and my,my stepdad that I was like, if I
can't find these things by huntseason, I'm about to have to go
buy another pair and never tellher that I lost them and sure
enough they were in the backseat of her pickup.

(37:23):
Do you like the whole time?
I like them.
I think I need to like work onthe.
They're pretty nifty.
Actually, they're almost like amix between like a regular,
like foam ear piece, cause it'sfoam on the end, so you can kind
of mold them down and put themin and it expands, just like a
regular ear foam would be andthen.
But then they have thecompression like automatic on

(37:44):
off.
So you can like still hearpretty well with them off, so
you can still like be talkingand stuff to each other, but
then it like really protectsyour ears for like the moment of
truth.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, they make those that have.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Bluetooth also, so you can like run Bluetooth
through your phone or somethinglike that.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I don't really know.
I mean, if you already have,like, we already have AirPods,
so that means nothing to usreally, but if, like, you wanted
both, it's a good option.
I guess I wear those walkersthat they go around your neck,
they just like sit around yourneck.
It's super flexible.
And then the earbuds likeretract, like they come out of

(38:23):
the thing and you can put themin your ear and you're not using
them.
You can hit a button and itretracts them.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Part of me thinks that's almost the better way to
go, because they're just likewell, you don't lose them and
they're.
They're just like on your neckRight and you like don't really
realize there you don't findthat they get in the way of your
like vinyl, harness yourbackpack or anything.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
No, I've almost lost them before cause I forget about
it.
And then they're on your neck,yeah, and then I take my shirt
off or something like that, andI'm just like oh God.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, but then they're like there and like
ready, compared to like mine orin a little case, and they're
always in my backpack orsomething, and then like
classically.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
You got to put them in and leave them in.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
This exact season I had took my backpack off and was
sneaking in on this deer andwas crawling and I went to shoot
and was like oh my headphonesare.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
But you're a suppressor.
It's behind me.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
But I was.
I had grabbed Jordan's gun andso I had a suppressor, so it
wasn't that big a deal.
But if I had my rifle I wouldhave had a little ringing in the
ears afterwards.
Right.
So that's what I think thatwould be like.
The pro of those is thatthey're just on your neck.
Yeah, like you don't have toremember to grab them out of
your backpack.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Right, yeah, I like it.
So next question.
I didn't put people's names onhere that asked me, so sorry,
but next time, next time, yeah,maybe Typical pack weight for a
five to seven day hunt, I don'tknow.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
I mean it depends on early season, late season.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah, I mean, I think that you should.
Probably you don't ever want togo over 60 pounds.
I wouldn't say going in, Ishould want, I would say less, I
mean.
So I looked when this questionpopped up.
The last time I actuallyweighed my pack when I was going
on a backpack hunt.
It was for um.
There was a lady that had a govtag here in um, idaho, for

(40:09):
sheep, for big horn sheep, and Iwas filming it.
So I weighed that one becausewe were horse packing in.
And then you know, I justwanted to be a little more
specific about it.
So that was four days.
That was with camera gear.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
So which is heavy.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yes, I was at like 52 or something like that, 54.
So take camera gear out and I'maround that 46, 48 mark.
That was with a spotting scopeand a tripod because I was
filming through a spotter,because every camera person
should film through a spotter.
Just going to say it right now.
But, um, so right in there, solike a five to seven day hunt,

(40:49):
like you're going to be right inthat 50, 55, right, I mean even
from five days to seven days,your pack weight is going to
change, probably five poundsbecause of food.
Like if you're doing like twopounds of food a day or even
more, that's four pounds rightthere if you're doing two pounds
.
So even between those two days,like you're bumping up quite a

(41:13):
bit.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
The gear.
The gear just hardly everchanges, it's just the food.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, yeah or God dang, I don't know my pack
weight and I packed by pet.
I backed back then for thefirst like three days of the
October season here and, oh mygod, well it was gonna snow.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
It was rough so.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
I brought a stove, yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I had the hot tent, arkali tent and the stove, and
by yourself I wasn't able to goin, and so was yeah, and then I
mean and then a gun, that's.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
The next thing too is like you look at actual pack
weights.
That pack weight that I'mtalking about, that was with no,
that was with no gun.
Like you're, you're gonna takea gun.
That's eight to twelve poundsprobably and nine to twelve
pounds plus you got someammunition in there, so you got

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to think about that too.
I mean for like a true sevenday hunt.
If you're bringing it, ifyou're doing like a seven day
mule deer hunt where you'rebringing your spotter tripod,
like you're doing it, it's gonnabe f-ing heavy.
Yeah like it just is, and thenyou're gonna eat your food and

(42:31):
it's gonna get less heavy.
Yeah, it's gonna get lighter.
Yeah, which is good.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
You can always find water on the hill.
You can't find snackies on themountain.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah, you just like I feel like the longer the trip
goes, you just have to be alittle more dialed with your
food, like actually I don't wantto say weigh it out, but yeah,
I mean, if you I could done itenough.
Now I just kind of like throwsome stuff in, I know what I
want to eat.
When I was even on that hunt Iprobably had a pound and a half
food today.
I didn't eat all of it.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
So you got to be real with yourself and be like, yeah
, what's the thing that I alwaysleave in that bag and I never,
hardly eat?
And you're like I'm gonna leavethat this time.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yeah, oh, yeah, for sure.
And then too, like, just like aseven day hunt especially if
it's your first trip out westand you're doing a seven day
backpack hunt like just don'tseriously, I ain't kidding, or
do like realistically like planon going back to the truck and
like getting more supplies afterthree days.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah, like plan on going in there looking around,
like if you haven't seenanything that's worth looking at
in three days, you probablyshould move anyways, you might
want to move.
And so if you packed enoughcrap in there for seven nights,
you have to pack four nights outyou know, or four days worth of
food out, and so I don't know.

(43:54):
It's like if you're three milesin or four miles in and you get
to that third day and you're ona good buck, like it might be
worth being like, all right,midday I'm just gonna hump out
of here, go grab another youknow four days worth of food and
get back.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, there's yeah some folks and it's like just a
quite, they just don't know,right, you just don't know, you
don't know and what you haven'texperienced.
So folks that are like, hey,what pack should I take for a
tent?
We're doing a 10 day backpackelk hunt in Colorado this year
and I'm just like, oh my god,first of all, don't do it.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Well, it's like have you ever done that before?
And if you're asking me thequestion as what pack I should
use, it's probably means you'venever done it before and it's
like you don't want to do yourfirst backpacking trip, make it
a 10 day trip.
Like your first backpackingtrip should probably be three to
four days.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
For sure.
So there you go.
Poor answer depends.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
We're maybe a little aggressive, but like it's we're
trying to be aggressive we'rejust telling people, like, don't
do that, you know like.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Oh, that's not aggressive, I mean, or they're
just gonna get back there andthen they're gonna hate their
lives and then come back out, orit's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
their pack is gonna be so heavy they're not gonna go
at all, or they're gonna gohalf the distance they wanted to
go because their pack so heavy,because they have so much
stinking food in there.
It happens.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I mean I even got when I backpacked in and my pack
was heavy and I was thinkingabout packing a deer out and it
was just super rough, steepcountry like very, very rocky,
like nasty, hard to go anywhere.
I was literally in a deer bedwith my sleeping bag, like that
was the flat spot that I had theoption of, and it was just even

(45:39):
I, after the second day ofgoing up and down that stuff I
was like oh my god, like I gotin a little too over my head
with all this stuff that I have,but anyways, we can dig into
that later.
What power bank do you use forcharging your phone?

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Dark energy.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, we have a lot of dark energies.
Yeah, they're like eight ofthem.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
They're handy to have just in all of the vehicles and
, for whatever reasons they holdtheir charge, you get multiple,
multiple charges out of them.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah the Poseidon Pro is what we've been using and I
really like.
I like that and dark energy iscoming out of the solar panel
here real soon.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
They launched it today.
Oh, does Ann announce it?

Speaker 1 (46:27):
I was gonna say everyone talk about it, yeah, so
yeah, they have a little solarpanel that seems to work good.
Plug it in.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Is that the one that rolls up?
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
So not some big nasty thing that's hard to carry
around and stuff no it's reallylight.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
So, yeah, you just gotta have to people.
Folks are gonna have to look itup for all the specs.
Guys didn't really prepare forthis.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
I just kind of was like well, they announced it.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
I'm just gonna announce it too.
So yeah, that's happening, butI think that that's like, if
you're going in for more thanlike three nights gosh, even two
nights with all of our stuffyou about have to have a lot of
you have.
You need to have a lot of powerif you're gonna like charge

(47:18):
camera batteries have your phone.
Charge your in reach.
I will say the in reach minitwo.
You never have to charge it.
I still have a charge.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
It's unreal If you're not say I mean, if you haven't
left your wife at home andyou're needing to send a lot of
messages back and forth andstuff like that like well, if
you're just using it for a pure,like a message every couple of
days or something like that,like you could probably just go
whole season.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
And you can leave it on and do that, like if you're
not laying way points andtracking and all that stuff that
they can do like they'll lastfor a long, long time.
So, yeah, that's Edna, and Ednais meaty.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
She's a meaty old retriever we should have put
outside.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
But so, yeah, that's a that's a really good way to do
it.
I think if you're going formultiple days or if, like you,
know that you don't want to runout of charge, I think that's a
way you can lighten it up too.
Is like, instead of taking likethree battery packs with you,
which are heavy and always heavywhether they're empty or not
you just take one or two.
Normally I take, I'll take twoat night, I will charge all of

(48:29):
the batteries up, and then Imight have to take one of them
with me during the day, just incase, and then during the day
when I leave the other ones atcamp.
Well, when I leave, I have thesolar panel out plugged into the
other one.
So by the time I get home inthe evening or get back to camp
in the evening, that's charged,or mostly charged, and I can at

(48:50):
least charge my phone with it.
Nice, and headlight up andstuff like that.
Solar panels are great.
Another one I've used a lotfrom solar panel wise is like
the anchor.
I think they're 17 watts.
There's some I'll link it, butit's a good way to do it.
Alright, last one, this isdefinitely for you Any tips?

(49:13):
Any tips for making the cleanupfrom real cooking in camp
quicker and easier?

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Why is that just?

Speaker 1 (49:21):
me.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Because I am the camp bitch.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
I was just like oh man, pinging holy me into the
kitchen, is that what you'redoing?
No, we don't really.
I'm just kidding, I'm moving on.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
We don't really have a lot of.
I don't know, would you call itreal cooking what we've started
?

Speaker 2 (49:41):
doing we used to.
You know we were in the trailerand you know we'd get back and
be like, alright, I'm gonna maketacos or do something.
You know and you gotta.
You know you're chopping uponions and you're doing this and
that, or whatever, that's onething either.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
pre-chop that stuff before you leave your house so
it's like all ready to go or buyit pre-chopped.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
And I'm too much of a tightwad, so I'm always gonna
buy a whole chop it up.
So we were doing that.
You know, the first couple ofyears, once we had the trailer
and stuff, and then you're tired, you're trying to get your pack
ready for the next day and thenyou know whatever you cook just
like kind of like sits in thepan.
You know the dishes sit in thepan and the next day you come

(50:30):
back and you're like oh crap,you know, I gotta clean all this
stuff up, and so we kind offigured out that we can do
vacuum seal with a lot ofdifferent food options and put
it in hot water like nearlyboiling water and like put it in

(50:55):
a small enough like.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
So, basically what you do is when you make, you
make meals at home, likespaghetti, pasta, how we like,
soup we've done it with a lot ofdifferent things and basically
like any that's left over.
You just put that in a vacuumseal bag.
Seal it kind of, make it flatso it reheats pretty quick.
Put it in the freezer, freezeit solid.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
When we get out into the field we'll just take a pot,
not in the field likebackpacking, but you know, yeah,
in the trailer or whatever yeah, cooking at a trailer or a
truck, camp yeah, camp, type ofthing yeah, and you, basically
you take a pot, you fill it upwith water.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
You know a pot that's like yay.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
I like a 10 quart pot or whatever, yeah and you like,
halfway with water probably, um, you get that water warmed up,
put the whole meal in thereinside the bag, like don't
puncture the bag or anything,put the bag in there.
And um, you get it to where thewater is like almost boiling,

(52:06):
but it's not.
It's just like kind of tippingon that edge of boiling and I
think that that just lets it.
You don't want it too hot.
I mean, you're already puttingplastic and water and getting it
warm whether that's gonna giveme cancer or not, I don't really
care at this point, but I'm notgonna push it and put it in
raging boiling water.
And we didn't want to meltstuff.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, it was, the plastic would melt um, but it
works really good like we canput that on and it'll be warming
up and we can be, you know,taking off our boots or
repacking our backpack for thenext day.
Or you know looking at on x andmaking another plan and 15
minutes goes by, or you knowhowever long.
You can kind of like feel itand and see, like you know, if

(52:50):
it's warming up or not you feelwith your hands like mush it
around a little bit and um andthen it's just like all right,
it's done, and you just pour itout into you know a paper bowl
and your meals, done like it'seasy.
And then, um, we kind of justlike keep that pot with water
sitting there and so you canreuse the water, because it's
not dirty, and reuse that watera bunch, and it just makes it

(53:13):
like there's no prep, there's nocleanup, like you're just
eating that stuff and like what?
What we do a lot of times is it, though, that's like leftovers
from when we're at home cooking,like if I'm making pasta.
I might just make like a hugebatch of pasta and then pull out
the vacuum sealer and whateverleftovers we have I throw in

(53:34):
there and throw it in thefreezer and then it's like ready
for hunting season right aroundyeah, and I got that.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
That entire idea for that whole thing I got when we
were.
We were literally sheep huntingin Wyoming when I was filming
for this tv show, like that'swhat they did, and we were
horseback hunting and, like his,it was a guided deal.
But his wife would like makeall this stuff one that was
really good.
We had every morning was justlike a breakfast scramble.

(54:02):
We brought tortillas.
He would heat that stuff up,put a little bit on all of our
tortillas.
We'd put like ketchup, cheese,whatever we wanted on it, and
then when that, when that food'sgone out of that plastic thing,
like we would burn it.
At the time we're in freakinggrizzly bear country, like
trying to get rid of all youknow, everything that we can as

(54:25):
far as scent goes, but, like youknow, we just throw it away and
then, like you're, you're done.
So that's like where the ideacame from and why it came from.
That is because when you'relike eating and cooking and camp
and stuff, especially ingrizzly bear country, like the
less scent and food and stuffyou can get around is like the

(54:50):
what you want to do, yeah, waythe better.
So, using paper plates, um,yeah, using that plastic stuff,
whatever you get done with it.
You can burn it and it's gone.
It's like you're not going tohave a bear coming smashing
through the middle of your campin the middle of the day when
you're not there tearing stuffup because they're trying to get
to freaking whatever.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah, no, I mean, and and it just it works really
good and it's efficient, um, andwe eat real fast and you're in
bed and you know the, the fasterthat you can accomplish those
like everyday mundane tasks, um,and like you, but you still get
like a nice meal, you knowyou're not just like and it's
just like a little bit betterfor you than you know eating

(55:35):
freeze dried meals all the time.
Like you know, a lot ofpeople's tummies don't agree
with those if you do it dayafter day and they're expensive.
And they're expensive for sure.
Um, and so it's, it's, I don'tknow, it just works really good
for us and, um, yeah, we've.
We've just kind of beenenjoying a lot of those meals.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Yeah, and then there's other stuff.
We'll mix it Like we don't dothat with meat, you know what I
mean.
It's not like we'd make steaksand then put them in bags like
that to the sous vise or sousvide or whatever the hell it's
called.
Um.
So if we have steak like, westill make that on the grill um
steak at night.
But then there's other thingsyou can get to, like the just

(56:16):
little things of like instantmashed potatoes.
You could rip those up prettyquick.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Um the like pre-made rice bagels that are like Uncle
Ben's or whatever it is that youcan get it like a whole case of
them at Costco that take likeall the.
All they take is water and likeyou can heat them up on a flat
top griddle or if you have a pan, you can heat them up, but like
they don't stick, they don't doanything.
So your your cleanup is like awipe out of your pan.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Yeah, I think that's.
That's, I guess, one bad onedownside to like mashed potatoes
or something like that is youkind of got to put them in a.
But the other thing is too likeyou could just get water
boiling and put them in the bowlyou're going to eat them out of
and put water in with it andmix it up, like if you want to
get real crazy about it aboutnot having dishes, yeah.

(57:03):
Cause we'll take those I don'tmash potatoes with us and put
them in our backpack meals forlike a little extra, a little
extra substance, yeah, andflavor and whatever.
So there's, there's multipleways to do it, but fricking both
stuff pre-sliced, just do it.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
I buy it.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
No, it's not.
I literally bought mushroomsthat were already cut up and
they were the exact same priceas the whole mushroom it is rare
.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yeah, still For everything pre-sliced For frugal
over here, I just can't help it.
So frugal and then and thensomething comes up that I want.
I have to be frugal withproduce, so that way, when other
shit comes up gear wise that Iwant to buy, I just buy it.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
There you go.
Mm-hmm, there you go, All right, Well, that's the end of our Q
and A.
So that's our first episode.
Good job, and yeah, coming up,we'll cover, we'll.
Yeah, we'll cover thosehuntsmores in detail.
Dive into the gear that we use,what we like, what we didn't
like.
We've got you tried a newtripod this year that we don't

(58:11):
really like.
That we're going to get rid of.
Asap Gosh.
What else?
Is there really anything newthat?

Speaker 2 (58:21):
No, I mean, I think it's just going to be fun to
like dissect into a lot of thisstuff.
Like Jordan Jordan's like acomplete nerd about this stuff.
I'm learning to be more of anerd.
I'm definitely someone that ismore like oh, I use it, it works
.
It works real good, and likenever really go for change.
She never used to put a bipodon her gun.
Well, it's because I grew up inRedneckville and you just like
shoot shit real fast, like notyeah, how'd that work out?

(58:44):
It didn't work out.
Well, Right, it didn't.
So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
I.
So it's kind of cool, Like wehave like kind of two different
sides of the, a little bit twodifferent sides of the thing.
I feel like I've just been inthe, I've just been geeking out
about it longer.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah, I think I think that you like to try new things
a little bit more and that Ilike to find something that
works really good, and then Ijust kind of stick with it.
But it's like it's just liketwo different ways of thinking
and it's been fairly really funto be able to try out a bunch of
new things, because I get allJordan's hand me downs which is
bonus and that it's just.

(59:20):
It's fun to try everything outand so, like gosh man, like it's
a hunter's paradise in ourgarage, and so I think that you
know we do a really good job ofbeing able to like save people
some money because they don'thave to buy all this crap.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Yeah, we're going to test it out and I've talked
about that for a long time islike that's kind of what my goal
is is.
There's a lot of people thathave waited a long time to be
able to come out here and Idon't.
I want to try them.
I want to give people a goodplace, that they feel confident
that I'm giving them goodinformation, as good information
as I can give.
A lot of this stuff is personalpreference, like boots and

(59:55):
stuff like that.
My foot is not the same asyours, as we found out, and we
know, so there's some thingslike that.
But I want people to be likeyeah, jordan said that this is
like this is a good way to gofor this application Like I
don't know.
I want people to be able to putsome faith into me and trust me

(01:00:17):
on that stuff when they'recoming out for five days that
they've saved up two years,three years to go on.
So I know we're handling Allright.
We're at an hour five, so weshould probably stop talking,
cut it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Yeah, yeah, we'll be back.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Yeah, I'll see you guys in the next episode.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
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