July 8, 2024 • 44 mins
Hey there! Ever wondered what happens when nostalgia meets modern filmmaking? Find out with our latest episode where we dive deep into the much-anticipated Beverly Hills Cop 4: Axel F! Trust us, we’ve got a lot to say.
We kick things off reminiscing about the golden days of Axel Foley and how Eddie Murphy's iconic character made us laugh and cheer. But, spoiler alert, this new instalment takes a sharp turn. From the promising start to the puzzling helicopter scene, we break down where the film lost its way.
We also chat about the return of some familiar faces, like Paul Reiser, Judge Reinhold, and Serge, and how they've aged (or not) over the years. Plus, we couldn't resist throwing in some fun comparisons to other classic reboots and sequels gone wrong.
So, grab your popcorn, sit back, and join us for a candid and hilarious discussion on why some things are better left in the past. And hey, if you're feeling nostalgic too, drop us a comment and let us know your thoughts!
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Yep, I'm in, I'm invested, don't let me down.
And unfortunately, in the second half, or probably the last two thirds,
if I'm completely honest, it started to steadily go downhill.
It is easy to pinpoint when the film goes wrong, and that's when he goes to
Beverly Hills, or his daughter's character's introduced.
Did anyone really ask for this film? And I would say probably no.
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Music.
Oh hey you're welcome where did i
go from there hello with a bit of
break from the norm here this isn't an 80s film it isn't a 90s film although
it is nostalgia nostalgia bait we are covering and we thought we'd better get
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in on the axlf game um that everyone's watching recently released uh on july
the 3rd on netflix i think quite a lot of people have seen it i think it's It's
been quite successful for Netflix.
But we are going to discuss it, obviously, because it harkens back to two podcasts
we've already covered, Beverly Hills Cop and Beverly Hills Cop 2.
And no, we'll never be doing Beverly Hills Cop 3, but we'll get to that in a moment.
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Let's roll the trailer. We'll see you at the other side.
Good morning, everybody. It's another beautiful day here in Beverly Hills.
What the hell was that?
Let me guess.
Foley. Did you say Foley?
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Foley! You stole a helicopter? I didn't realize that you couldn't really fire a helicopter.
Otherwise, I would have came up with a different idea. I told you it was a bad idea.
Oh, hey! He shot my run!
You know, this is very embarrassing. You know, part of me would rather get locked
up than get caught in this little Fisher-Price-looking squad car. Y'all are the Lego cops.
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Jane, hey, this is your father. Before you hang up, I'm in town.
I've been arrested at... Hello?
You sure y'all paying y'all's bills? Because this phone don't work.
This isn't my first time in Beverly Hills. Yeah, I saw that.
84, 87, and then 94. But this place has changed a bit. What brings you back to 90210?
(02:22):
I got a call from Billy. He's in trouble now. What do you want from me?
I want you to be a cop again. You got to do something.
And so if you damage any city property You're in a snowplow?
Yeah, we're in a damn snowplow, what's the problem?
A lot of blind spots in a snowplow,
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I'm on an undercover mission with Ah-Way-Fo-Ni You're pissing off a lot of people,
That means we gave it close,
You're safe, everybody's safe There's no seatbelt in the middle.
What the hell with the seatbelt? We on the edge!
Music.
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Let's get it! Whoo! Aah! We're gonna need some backup. Whoa!
What are you doing? I'm getting us some backup.
God, I miss T-Rex.
Okay, so before we go into what we thought about it, if you just look purely
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at that trailer, does that make you tantalize you and say, ooh, yeah, I'm in for that?
Because it did for me. Well, it did for me when I first saw it.
I was like, okay, this is going to be a bigger budget.
There's going to be a lot more to it. it's not going to be set about looking
for a memory card around a theme park as as in was beverly hill's got three
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i believe that was the plot anyway it was set definitely set a theme park i
definitely think it was another memory card but yeah so here we are beverly hill's got four.
40 years later been stuck in development hell this since early 2000 early 2000s
is it really 40 years later is it really 84 yep 40 years how old is how old is is any murphy,
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40 40 years older his real life
is 63 yeah because i looked 23 when he made
beverly's cop well he's 63 now so yeah i
guess so but he because one of the things i noticed in this film
is how well he'd aged compared to some of his co-stars and
i was checking out their their ages yeah he's 63 well
i don't know if you can see that we've you know apart from joe he's not
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playing today and amanda who i will get to why she's not on there in a moment
i'm called botox millionaire because whoever did the botox for this film must
have made an absolute mint i must be coining it in time to pay for the yacht
because there's a lot of filler here and it's not just the story,
although not all the cast apparently could afford it because some of them look
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like they've been freshly dug up they have not aged well maybe i've not once
taught um but if we're explaining I'm the boy with the dagger tattoo because, look, they're viewers.
Oh damn did that just happen wow bad boy where'd you
get that well it's a festival so yeah
it's right i mean it's not just like a henna one
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it's real no it's not real but no it's quite good though
doesn't it i'm thinking again so yeah well
for those listening to us that then go out and
must tune into youtube now to see it you've been duped already
you you already know that you've been been duped but
it does look impressive well as regular listeners well yeah
as our followers as our dedicated followers will know we covered american
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history x last week a few days ago yeah and uh
it just reminded me of the power of tattoos and the symbolism so i thought ed
norton looked pretty pretty nifty it would
have been nice if you had that for american history x and you had a
swastika yeah yeah i uh
i do have hr departments to to navigate and i thought that's
probably a step too far that'd be an image that'd come
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back to haunt me really wouldn't it but uh the ai that
helps us with the um the clips for american history x
definitely had its work cut out like oh i'll
have to stop here can't mention that it's a good way
to get fired though you know oh yeah good job racially.
Most racially aggravated walk around sleeveless yeah
a little dagger rose on it butterflies couple
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of red heart a black heart for old time's sake and yeah that's
my tattoo and i think i might actually get one because i have a few compliments it
won't wash off though that's the only thing that's a bit problematic so hopefully it's
not like a phoenix knight situation a tiger
tattoo yeah but yeah definitely something if you will pop on
the uh whatsapp group later but perhaps charlie can put a link i
always say this charlie put a link to these things and i will put them into
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things and i will i will write phoenix knights and writing it down there okay
okay phoenix knights and uh yeah boy with the dagger tattoo everyone well no
that's my contribution to this pod because i've got a lot of positive things
to say about axel f yes right Right, okay.
Well, do you want me to go first? Right, okay. What was I expecting?
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I was expecting Coming to America, the sequel. I was expecting a bit of that.
Then when I saw the trailer, I went, I don't think it's going to be that.
Thankfully, it isn't that. But that's damning with faint praise,
really, because that's, again, probably one of the worst films in the last four or five years.
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What does it want to do? It wants to push all your nostalgia buttons.
And if you're in the right frame of mind and you've had a few drinks and you're
feeling a bit nostalgic for the past, this might just press your buttons.
It did with me. For the first 20 minutes, I had a smile like a Cheshire cat
because I was like, great, wonderful, excellent. Yeah, I'm in.
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Hitting the button with Bob Seger's Shakedown from Beverly Hills Cop 2.
Later on, we get Neutron Dance by the Pointer Sisters. sisters button button
button button all good great we got
glenn fry as the heat is on too oh sorry yeah and it
opens with that and you're like yep i'm in i'm invested don't let me down and
unfortunately in the second half or probably the last two thirds if i'm completely
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honest it started to steadily go downhill to the point where i think there's
bits at the ending which which make zero sense.
And literally it almost felt like, and we'll get to those in a moment.
It felt like the writers just went, oh no, no, no, no. We've forgotten the bit in the back of the car.
We've forgotten that bit. We didn't put it in. Well, we can't put it back in
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the film. We can't put it in the middle where it should be.
Let's put it at the end. But why would it be in the end? He's in hospital.
Why would you have a stakeout?
And there we go. And that kind of sums up the film. The helicopter scene is totally superfluous.
Jordan, Joseph Gordon-Levitt should just put Alan Smithy on his credits.
(09:01):
I know it's only for directors and just not be a part of this because he was
totally wasted and I really didn't enjoy him. And I think he's an absolutely wonderful actor.
So thanks for trying is what I would say.
I appreciate that you gave it a go.
It wasn't as bad as three and coming to America and,
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immediately after this on a final note i went back and watched beverly hills cop.
And just enjoyed every single part of that and enjoyed
what it's trying to do what it achieved the performances everything
so yeah that's me on the
basis that i've seen the whole film yeah we'll get
to why joe hasn't yeah but i think i think you sum it up well really so i don't
(09:44):
know about having a big grin on my face but i enjoyed the opening kind of 10-15
minutes or something thing i think it is easy to pinpoint when the film goes
wrong and that's when he goes to beverly hills and the or his daughter's characters
introduced and you just know that this kind of.
Uptight ball-busting lawyer that she plays is is predictable how that's going
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to pan out and and i think it's just not she's not fun at all and that and the
film just misses the opportunity to have a good time i think you can forgive
a lot of potholes and there definitely are some if everyone's kind of having
a good time and it's a bit tongue-in-cheek and there's the odd kind of,
nod to the audience perhaps but they for some reason decide to
play it you know a bit safe but not
(10:25):
sort of safe like um they try and make
a more serious film out of it now it's beverly hills cop
franchise it's not a serious film but they should have
turned the dial a bit more away from kind of plot and and
kind of they should have made it
more fun the choices they made more of the
old cast unless they were just too decrepit and passed it to
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actually contribute to this film and in one or two cases that might have
been there that might have been the reason why but yeah you
think it'll be nostalgic let's just inject that into our
veins properly kind of lean into it not not kind of shy away from
it and yeah it was a missed opportunity but as
you say better than coming to america too which was a travesty yes
indeed it was joe joe who
(11:07):
before you thought you only saw half the film and now
we're not even half the film and now you're going to explain why yeah i'd say
i probably saw a third of the film right and i just got i said i'm out i'm done
i'm just tired of it i just knew it was a movie i wasn't going to like did anyone really.
(11:28):
Ask for this film and i would say probably no i think this is something that
eddie murphy probably they pushed around to all these different studios and
everybody said no and then netflix was like,
all right maybe you know and they probably got it
on the cheap but we just
didn't need a movie like this like i never saw
a three i saw one and two and one was very good two was okay you know three
(11:53):
i heard this awful yeah i forget too and i definitely remember one but i'll
say one of of the big problems with this movie that I could tell right away
is like Charlie had asked me to help him with the marketing because he was busy.
With a lot of things so i looked at
the new poster for axel f
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and then i looked at the original poster from
beverly hills cop those are two different people he
is completely changed it's kind of like reminds me
like in rocky 3 like when
mickey tells rocky it's like you know your problem
is you you got civilized and that's what happened
with eddie murphy he is not the young
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eddie murphy young young eddie murphy again you look at that poster
he's badass on that poster you know
he's not smiling he's holding a gun he's sitting
on a car he just looks badass and he's got moments of comedy in the first movie
but in this movie he's just old he's not you don't feel like he's a tough guy
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that he's a cop there's just so many problems i had with you know his performance and i would.
Say i don't think there's i didn't see all of the movie but
i don't think there's one good performance in this movie i think that that's
the problem is i and again
i don't know the history of this movie but i have a feeling eddie murphy wanted it
done did he have any writing credits in it
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i don't know i did ask co-pilot to uh to
to basically give me a pricey but it's decided to wipe everything out
that i that i put in there probably yeah i
think he i think he has got some writing credits isn't he to
this and directing as well perhaps so he's
the only good i mean he's the thing that obviously i know
it's an easy thing to say he's going to carry the whole film but he
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does carry the whole film there's there's you know we're not dr doolittle norbert
eddie murphy here he's doing his best to try and you know bring it bring everything
back up you know into recent times but but joe's point spot on i think which
is like not just even the beverly hills cop original.
Film but like his stand-up you know eddie murphy as an
(14:00):
individual was delirious yeah yeah you know edgy
yeah in your face like you know it was quite
amazing that he became such a big star you know particularly you know
without turning around put my foot in
it but like as a black actor at the time he was a mega star
wasn't he and um but actually he didn't i don't think
he didn't play the game or at least for a long time in his career you know he
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kind of retained his integrity and this sort of
thing is is you know i'm i'm prior to
this of course as well as where way kind of sold out and took the
the hollywood dollar and uh now it's um you
say it's kind of 90 fun and 10 edge and previously it was the the other way
around yeah absolutely yeah joe any any other final thoughts are we gonna give
(14:41):
scores by the way i mean i do i i didn't want everyone gave one because i didn't
see it fully right okay so it's up to you and me don do you want to go first,
Yeah, so I did get, it's interesting, Joe dropped out at about the 40-minute
mark because I made a note in my notes that that's when my attention started
to wane and I kind of have given up on it being a good film.
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So honestly, yeah, about a three and a half for me.
Sort of things happen if you're in the right mood. I left it until just before
we're recording to watch it, which I don't normally do.
And yeah, Sunday afternoon perhaps wasn't the best time. A couple of pints or
feeling relaxed and watching it, maybe if I scored a bit higher,
but yeah, three and a half for me.
All right, okay. I'm not far away. I'm four.
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It's not just a school report must try harder please don't do unfortunately
we already know on june the 28th i believe 28 21st they announced beverly hills cop 5.
So yeah no way did they really yep there's another
one there's another one being made what happened was paramount loaned
netflix the rights to this to make axel f
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and they'll they'll end up doing the next film so it won't be netflix
um i'm sure netflix will make a ton of
you know ton of money from subscribers and you know word
of mouth and and people like me who might not have netflix
to go actually this is the thing that's gonna you know
push me to push me to watch it however if
i had amazon prime and i watched the remake
(16:03):
of roadhouse i'll go don't do that to me again don't don't do that and again
obviously they're coming to america sequel and amazon prime which stay stay
well clear of i moving on now to to a wider so we've got three and a half and
a four and and from joe So presumably,
can you give anything on the first 40 minutes? Three?
(16:26):
Two yeah maybe three maybe it's
very right okay this is different from the
rotten tomatoes rotten no not different rotten tomatoes
critic score 68 and if you go on youtube we
will probably be one of the few channels well officially
official in the sense that we are official we've been going for five
years now that that would actually be
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honest about this i do feel there's an emperor's new clothes style
thing out there which is oh yeah nostalgia
came back and it hit every hit every button and pressed it
you know i'm like what oh it tries but admit
when it got it wrong admit that it that it didn't before we
get into the actors and you know whether or not they they dug up
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as you so uh rightfully said don before we get into that my
my problem is this and i didn't think about it at the time but
i did think about it on the train today because i've been in birmingham you
so not putting you on the spot here why did axel foley go to um beverly hills
in beverly hills cop one first film why did he go there anyone bueller.
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Did a friend of his get killed yes so mikey gets killed and at the start he
comes to see him and tells him about what we're about the bearer bonds and tells
him about Steven Burkoff, you know, Steven Burkoff's character.
So he goes there because he's in it.
And one thing they say in this is that even in this film, I know you didn't
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get to this part, Joe, but one thing, the schmaltzy bit at the end of this film,
well, one thing you know about actually is he's focused, you know,
he's totally focused on this sort of thing. And you're like, yeah.
And he's also got a sense of, you know, completion, a sense of community,
a sense of people around him, and he genuinely cares.
If I got not an answer to the first one, I'm guaranteed not to get an answer
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to why did he go in Beverly Hills Cop 2?
Again, before the music kicks in, like radio, if there's too much silence, it's going to be. Go on.
I think one of the main characters from the first movie was killed.
No. Yeah. The main character had an attempt on his, yeah, attempt on his life.
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Bridget Nielsen. So Bogermill, played by Ronnie Cox, who was in Total Recall.
So he basically goes, I'm dropping everything. I'm in the middle of an undercover sting.
I'm dropping everything. thing gives the keys to the ferrari to paul
reiser and says just drive around make it look as if i'm still
on the scene and he shoots straight off to beverly hills that's so
that was that was my answer by the way but joe it wasn't was it okay
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you've written it down of you you're gonna put it yeah yeah common film knowledge
that's why that's what i was gonna say so please tell me why in goodness name
suddenly he's abandoned his daughter because i i just don't understand how that can happen.
With a character like that. You're just completely changing his character.
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Well, is she a man in him? Yeah, it was explained, I think, in part,
wasn't it, that the mother forced him out and that's why she took the mother's
surname and all that sort of stuff, so she pushed him away.
But he never made an attempt to try and reconcile. Every year he'd send her
a Christmas card, every year he'd send her a birthday card.
I'm really sorry, please get in touch with Dad, I do miss you, I do love you.
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You honestly it was so tedious so that section of this film where they're exploring
the father daughter relationship is pretty shade predictable and just dragged
on interminably and then she
disappears mysteriously from the film for like a large section which kind of
is a positive i think and then when she mysteriously reappears in the third
act she's her character's done a you know 180 degree personality change and
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is now really willing to listen and to engage her and things so yeah honestly
it's a poorly written role that drags the film down and then.
You know conveniently all comes together at the end so yeah yeah well
that was a big problem i had is like when they first attempt
to i guess persuade her
to drop the case and like they attack her
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in a car and then they hang her off the side of a building it's
like why didn't they just kill her you know i mean i know
it's because the answer is because it's a movie but if
you're gonna go that far to do something like that you just kill
the person i mean you don't like let them just
live and say oh maybe they'll be so scared that
they'll drop the case just get rid of them i mean it's like
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no one sees you you know if they did if you're
worried that people are going to see you you wouldn't have done it to begin with you
know if there were cameras there i don't know
it's just i feel like i could just
tell the writing was very stupid and like i said you know
what it reminds me of too it's indiana jones
and the dial of destiny no god you know we
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got a sequel for that you know where again we loved the indiana jones in the
80s nobody asked for it yeah no one asked for it they introduced a female character
to kind of be smarter than him and i'm assuming his daughter plays that role
in this and you know again instead of,
you know embracing the character and having fond memories of the character ruins the character.
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Because it's like you know there's that phrase like you can't go
home again he can't be axel anymore
because again they're two different people like i said i i think what they could
have done and i know it's probably heresy if they wanted to have a successful
movie or a reboot or or you know a successful franchise that's the word reboot
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just do it all over again with a younger actor i I mean,
the only one I can think of right now would probably be Michael B. Jordan.
I know he's not very funny and everything, but they could have played it more serious.
I mean, just have a cop that's based in Detroit going to Beverly Hills,
show how he does his police work as opposed to the poofy kind of work that they do in Beverly Hills.
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Or have it where Eddie Murphy is soft, where he does have a desk job now.
Something may have happened to him where it's like you know i don't want to
be on the streets anymore because it is odd that someone that old if he's in
his 60s would still be on the streets you know being a detective and then he
was never promoted during that whole time,
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i'm under the impression because he costs every time he did sort of police work
and investigative work he ended up wrecking wrecking half the city but he got results damn it yeah.
I must say, the good point you raised, why didn't he just kill the lawyer?
Why didn't he just kill his daughter? I think Joe's right, and obviously it's
(23:06):
preposterous, but we've got to give it a pass on that sort of suspension of
disbelief, I think, because that's not even the most strange thing.
No, but that's the attempt to kill her, is what I'm saying.
If somebody came to you and said, oh, my daughter's had an accident, what happened?
Somebody tied a cable on it and threw a car off the side of the thing.
Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Oh, no, no, no, she's fine.
Even if they didn't kill him, they'd stick a gun in a mouth or to a temple,
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and it has the same effect as dangling some Machiavellian skein to scare her.
But like Kevin Bacon's character, this crooked cop, the way that he's like a
Doctor Evil-style flaunts it, and some sort of Bond villain tiptoes around the
fact that he's evil, acknowledges it.
This wouldn't happen, would it? If you were on the take and you're in for millions
(23:51):
and involved in drugs and money laundering and things like that,
you wouldn't kind of walk around tapping your nose and giving them a
cheeky wink when you're being investigated i think you try and
cover your tracks a bit better than that but uh plus his
performance is dialed in but most of them have been recently uh
most of the stuff he's been involved in since so joe just
for your benefit kevin bacon stars in a long-running series of
mobile phones in the uk and
(24:14):
i just think it's totally trash news that him as an actor now i can't hear
his voice anymore without having a being triggered by it so yeah that's understandable
i'm writing that down i'm putting the e adverts in the in the comments no no
that's what i don't want you to do because it makes me feel i feel a bit jippy
every time i hear it these days they're so ubiquitous so yeah kevin bacon can
(24:35):
he can do one as far as i'm concerned.
That might be the most contentious thing that's the thing the ai
is going to pick up why kevin bacon's career went wrong and
it's just going to be like e-adverts that's it
sunk in that trace i'll keep it clean but i'll call him a
greedy so-and-so that sold out his integrity in the uk you see this joke like
(24:55):
famous hollywood actors and actresses they they do adverts in countries like
japan or whatever it might be and he's done cellular phones in the uk are for
years now and they're all oh wait a minute that annoying advert in the cinema that stars ours,
which is about turning your phones off, basically, and enjoying it and not watching it.
No, no, no. About not watching it on a screen. You've got a family.
(25:17):
One's watching it on a tablet.
One's watching it on the little TV while they're cooking. One's watching it
on the phone. He's going, no, no, no. You need to go to the big screen.
John Boyega is basically telling you that you need to turn your phone off. Oh, really?
Ridley scott's in it as well he doesn't say anything but just
basically gives a disproving look as if like well why are you
watching my film something like this because that's how people could that's how
(25:37):
people consume things these days unfortunately nobody's going to the cinema
as much i i think we've had an advertisement with nicole kidman for about six
or seven years that everybody's just so sick of what what did she do oh no she's
not it's for amc and And, you know,
she talks about the love of movies and seeing it in theaters and all that.
(25:59):
And it's just like, just start the frigging movie. You know,
it's like we have to see this shit over and over again. It's like we get it, you know.
You get half an hour, half an hour between the start time and when the film starts.
Is it about Dom? It's about 25 minutes, half an hour now, isn't it?
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I used to show up early for like the coming attractions.
(26:20):
Now I show up late because there's even commercials in between the coming attractions.
Yes. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, what the frig? You know,
we get that. We get sanity.
Adverts, adverts, trailers, another advert for saying, take your phone off, then an advert for Audi.
And you're like, go, do you want to run the trailers again while we're here?
We might as well dig in. If you're going to give us free popcorn to watch this, what's this rubbish?
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I've never made my pick and mix last to the actual film starting these days.
You won't know what pick and mix is. Those 20 minutes. Do you know what pick and mix is, Joe? No.
It's like it's a crime a crime against the
the working man you get a little if i'm not
bothered about popcorn so you get a bag of sweets instead like lots of
different types of candy i suppose you'd call it so for
(27:05):
a modest sized pouch of it what about seven pounds fifty you're looking at aren't
you sorts out 10 100 grams is is a ridiculous price you go to you're gonna like
that story it's about a quarter of the price than they charge in the cinema
but previously what What happened is it's just a row, a rack of different sweets.
And before they had any sort of hygiene or health and safety,
(27:28):
it just used to be kids' hands going in and just lifting and putting them in. It still is.
You're at least taking three different types of urine when you're consuming it.
But they put white mice in there. How can you resist a big bowl full of white
mice before you start the film?
Again, he doesn't know what you mean. White mice? Right.
Put those in the comments.
(27:48):
Real white mice? i was the
osborne star bite the heads off little candy white
mice you know i don't know what that is honestly they're just
pure sugar they're so bad for you and this is a childish thing that i do but
yeah white mice if i'm feeling particularly flamboyant i might even have some
pink mice in there as well so oh is it one of those are those the marshmallow
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peeps not marshmallows they're like a hard hard sugary sweet they make they
make a bowl of sugar seem sour by comparison they're that sweet
my heart's skipping a beat i'm feeling sick and then the film starts yeah that's
my expectation it's a good experience perfect perfect time roll credits.
Okay let's get back let's get back to film well i
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did want to say something about kevin bacon as
i saw him and i think probably five minutes after
i saw him i turned it off it's right
away you see him and you know he's the bad guy you know
he stands up and he's like i've heard a lot of
good things about you axel you know it's
like yeah typical villain line and
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all that but i am looking at the director because
i i have to put a lot of blame on the director because if he's
directing the damn movie he has a lot of input so
i'm like oh so who is this guy so the guy's name is
mark molloy so i never heard of him so
i look at his filmography what is he known for beverly hills
cop axle f this is big thing
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and then he's got an apple tv thing where
he's a writer an apple tv thing where he's a writer that's it
why that's why then it's like
why would you pick because i i seriously think eddie murphy wanted
to do it but he's like what's the budget you know give me 75 of the budget as
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a salary and i just think that they didn't spend any money on writing they didn't
spend any money on directing because this guy's got zero experience and i did
look eddie murphy did not write any of this oh right.
And it looked like a bunch of white guys wrote it too, which is kind of weird.
Wait a minute. It doesn't happen anymore, Joe. Okay. I know.
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Blimey. Yeah. And they have white men.
But it shows that all races can screw up the writing then.
This is when it should have been a Disney movie because then they would have resolved that problem.
Well, yeah. Can we talk about the other stars, the other aged stars? Yes. Oh, please do.
They don't fare too well, do they? so who's the
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first one we see let's go through them all then paul riser
is that how you pronounce it it's his detroit boss he's uh
paul riser yes and that's
why i'm called botox millionaire because that's where most of
the botox budget went into paul riser's face oh my
god yes you realize that was him yeah
but i had to double check it yeah that's uh
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ill-advised route that it's gone down hopefully
just for this film problem that's how it looks all the time burke from
aliens and now just burke i know
i did just think of that by the way i didn't have that ready
but yeah it's a zinger all right well if it's
not for him what do we think for to judge reinhold then good lord
man what i mean just comb your hair you know just
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don't make it look as if you've just taken your head out a deep front
fryer i think his problems go beyond just dragging a comb
across i was starting with the hair have a wash brush
your teeth yeah exfoliates i don't know the
list goes on really because yeah he looked
like he had leprosy i thought when i when i saw him i thought where's where's
the massive bell that he needs to hang around his neck and walk around his parts
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we're going to start dropping off he did not look well and it was no surprise
to me when he just in fact the only surprise was when he eventually resurfaced
having been tortured for two days which is how they explained his appearance
i suppose but yeah no the man does.
Not look good and um and i thought to myself wow i haven't seen him
for ages and indeed we haven't because his career deteriorated
sharply after devli hills the original couple didn't it
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he did um what vice versa it flopped
and this direct quote from him that was really the end of my highfalutin hollywood
career reinhold said later that's where the phone stopped ringing he also developed
a reputation for being difficult on set i was spoiled and i was arrogant i was
very demanding had an overblown image of who i was and i got a reputation for
being difficult and rightly so, which is why we've not seen him.
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And presumably he's been living in a dank cellar somewhere, just fueled by bitterness
and regret ever since, because that's how it comes across, to be honest.
So, Judge, if you're listening, sorry, mate, but yeah.
He was on a Seinfeld episode. He was pretty funny. He was a close talker.
Okay. Okay. That's not the career highlight he was looking forward to after Beverly Hills Cop 2.
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I bet you most people know him for that role. Okay.
Speaking of unwell, let's go to his partner, who's now police chief.
Wow. Wow. Tag it. John Ashton.
You know, you do feel like he had to, in order to do like 30 seconds worth of
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takes, that probably took four months.
Because he needed a sit down in between every
word i think he's wearing a corset i think he's
wearing a corset or guys thinking like he probably wore you
know probably has a lap band surgery but it
didn't work well well i mean that was the most startling one but there's there
is two ends of the spectrum on there it's looking old and a bit ropey and and
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obviously i i was speaking out of turn and saying that Paul Reiser took most
of the Botox in this. It isn't.
It's the next character that we'll talk about, which is Serge.
I named it after him. Oh, man.
Serge or Martin Shaw as Fromp in Father the Bride is pretty much the same character, which is funnier.
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They're both as funny as each other. Is he funny in this?
No, because it's just shoehorned in.
Oh, we need to speak to somebody. oh well how are we gonna how are we gonna
get to them oh i know somebody that can help us with that,
cuts the surge surge takes them to
get get the answer and it's almost
like mcguffin it's almost like force you know the rise of
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skywalker i need to go over here to do that i need over here to do
that how am i going to get here surge is going to help me how am i
going to get over there well you know and it
was but that's spot on it's just this happens then
this happens then this happens and this happens and it's just like
a series of yeah holding predictable
you know as you say episodic little sections but
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i thought that they were i was wondering how they were going to play
this character and whether they'd have to dial it back and the answer is
they did didn't they it was it was definitely it was like a diluted version
i mean it's nice i'm not as much of a fan of the
original character anyway this kind of flamboyant homosexual character
that he plays the campus man in america but here
they just dialed it back and he was he was just there his
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hair was a different color and that was kind of it really is he gay in
real life i don't believe so i don't i don't think he is yeah i'm surprised
people didn't complain about that because that's the big thing now is that you
can't have a street character playing a gay character anymore unless there's
a legacy thing there there's a legacy thing oh you bring the same you know you
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bring the same character back.
I mean talking about the action scenes the the
first bit's good with shakedown with the snowplow that's pretty
good oh i didn't like that well you know what i will tell you
i mean like i like the very beginning again
like where we did hear the songs from the previous movies and
he's going through detroit he's driving but that's it
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as soon as the hockey game starts it goes downhill
for me who is that idiot that's
sitting next to him you know it's like the token white guy there's
too many white people in this movie i gotta say
it's like what the frig you know
it it's just really well you
gotta have the white people in there to make them look incompetent so that's
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fine but you did which is i don't know it's just the helicopter can i just get
to it because we we said we were only going to do half an hour on this and we're
a little bit over already but i mean it'll just reach its natural end i would
say the helicopter scene there's this again Again, for you, Joe,
and for those who have watched it, they need to get away from there.
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So a la Blue Thunder, they steal the helicopter on the helipad up on the roof.
Joseph Gordon-Levitt is supposed to be a helicopter pilot, says it's a bad idea,
get in the chopper, can't fly it because he's got PTSD because he had a crash in a helicopter.
Did he kill someone? I can't remember. But anyway, so anyway,
he got PTSD from the helicopter flying,
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hence why you see in the trailer, the helicopter's mostly on the highway way
rather than actually up in the air it is totally not needed i didn't like the
interaction between the two of them i'm just like cut that bit out this film
should have been 90 minutes,
that was another thing too that he had a romance with his daughter you don't
have to connect every dot.
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You know just to be clear we talk about his partner yeah
but uh yeah that was too long definitely
yeah it was you know what it worked i
think is if they would have done something like beverly
hills cop meets lethal weapon you know like if they did that like where they
combine the two franchises into one and i think that would have sold a lot of
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tickets even though it probably would have sucked or maybe it might not have
but it you know i think that well old Old Mel Gibson, old Mel Gibson, old Eddie Murphy.
Yeah. And I, cause I know they're making another lethal weapon.
I think that's going to bomb too.
You know, it's just like, get like, we don't like, again, we didn't need another Indiana Jones.
We didn't, we don't need another lethal weapon. We don't need another Beverly
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Hills cop. What else are they doing?
You know, they're going to be doing jaws eventually, Charlie.
Well, Ghostbusters is being raped and pillaged, isn't it? Oh yeah. Yes.
Yeah. I'm not enjoying the new one. I just start to watch it.
Yeah. Yeah, it sucks. I did see it. It's crap.
I haven't got to Bill Murray yet, so it may still redeem itself.
I don't know. Oh, well, we're not talking about that movie, but he's done, too.
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He is not the same person he was, too. No, first of all, he's too much of a dramatic actor.
And again, you look at the Bill Murray from the original Ghostbusters versus this one. No.
The old one would have kicked his ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, sorry. Okay.
And the last annoyance for me is that basically i think we said just before
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we started recording there's the bit at the end the famous bit with the banana
in the tailpipe obviously there is no banana in the tailpipe in this one but
right at the end when axel's in hospital.
Taggart a police chief and billy estranged doing god knows what are sat in a
car on a stakeout at the hospital,
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where axel the hero who's not done anything wrong and
is the hero is in the hospital why are
you staking out the hospital what are you watching he's already
got police in there that are protecting him why are you still to take out
of there anyway as predicted cops bad cops predicted
he comes out sits in the back of the car in
his hospital gown and you're like
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and and it did feel like we left that out
we forgot to write it in so let's stick it at the end somewhere yeah
i'm thinking in fours quite generous i might come down to three and a half i
don't know i won't be i certainly won't be like roadhouse i won't be watching
this again and i might actually go back and watch beverly hills cop three now
and just say am i is this the worst of the four i don't know,
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i might have to that's taking one for the team mate that's taking,
life too short do like a good theme park i might have seen three if it's the
theme park one yeah That's the one where he's trying to rescue some kids that
are trapped on a ferris wheel.
And then, like, one of the… Don't say all the highlights. It's so bad. Yes. Yes, it is.
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But, unfortunately. So, look, just put it down to modern-day filmmaking.
This is what they do. They take a good idea. They take something that we love,
and they screw around with it, and they wreck it.
Like they did with Indiana Jones, as you pointed out. Like they've done with
Star Wars. Like they've done with Lord of the Rings.
Fine. fine look it's just what they do now unfortunately as as well i'm speaking
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for myself here and for you joe as gen uh gen x's you're are you still classed
as a millennial have we done this don are you i don't know what's the cut i've
bought in the 70s i can't be a millennial can i.
Yeah but i'm not sure i need to look it up and then i can't i am you're a gen
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x you're definitely Gen X.
Am I? Well, that's cool. Cause we're in our, cause we're in our late,
well, where we passed half century.
Are you looking at all that i reckon that's killed the viewer numbers now isn't
it no the viewer numbers lovers they they love our uh they love our pithy and
witty and creative takes on it let's keep it pithy then i reckon dom is just
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outside just outside are you looking it up joe.
Yeah here we go i am it drum roll uh so 1946 to 1964 is baby boomer yeah boomers
1965 to 1980 80 is gen x gen x millennial is 1981 to 1996 and gen z is 1997 to 2012.
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Is it a new category now non-binary
come on let's uh gen waste of life
get with the program gen don't care tick tock
the tick tock lot right well anyway
there we go i hope you've enjoyed this because i
mean we didn't enjoy watching the film it seems but
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but listeners don't despair because we have uh my choice
coming up for our next feature length ultimately in starship
troopers so oh and i've got to tell you i've got to be honest with you i started
watching a bit of the the sea i just put in starship troopers on youtube and
started watching some of those scenes again and just went well obviously i won't
spoil it but i just know well it was it was good ah good well i wonder where
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you're we've got to go with that.
Oh, not at all. I don't think, yeah. Yeah, I couldn't tell either.
So I want her perspective on that. Yeah, she'll be back.
She'll actually watch the next, she'll actually watch Starship Troopers rather
than, I think I might, I don't think I said at the start, I think I just tailed off why she isn't here.
She watched the first half of it with me through her phone. I think she might
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have looked up a couple of times, maybe.
And then after an hour went, I'm just not digging this. And I went, we haven't watched it.
So I don't know how you. You get like one of
those devices that was in a clockwork orange what
they did with alec trapper the chair with her eyes open and it's
like or just a mobile phone blocker i mean that would probably uh i
don't know what that'd do to her i think it'd be that don't work she could fall asleep
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yes anyway
right on that note so where yes we will be back squarely
in the 90s squarely with you know a better
film i think it's that probably tantalizing it's
probably not hard to say it's going to be a better film than this but yeah
i hope you enjoyed it anytime something like this happens we probably should
have done this with roadhouse but i'm really glad we didn't because i only watched
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half of that we'll do this again so i hope you've enjoyed it give us a like
and a subscribe uh give us a comment we've after after dom's choice we've got
a viewers our viewer stroke listener stroke.
Consumer consumer consumer i just it's
that better way to describe it well consumer implies we're
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getting paid for this so unless it's something you're not telling me then you're not
getting paid sorry wait a minute you two not getting paid no okay
t-shirts selling on patreon or something
like that you know yeah rusted
junk actually i would i'd wear one of my in fact i i will
get a mock i will get a prototype done and i'll
wear it on holiday there you go and if anybody comes
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up to me and says then they'll get if anyone comes up and tell me what we're
all about rather than just looking it up and give us a thing they'll get like
a prize what's the prototype t-shirt you don't do you're not designing a rocket
i mean it's just a cloth that you put no but it's a prototype to love it if
it's good and it's good quality we'll,
flog a few okay okay right well let's do that then let's then mugs oh key ring
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a prototype I forgot to put a hole in the top of it.
You know, that's the mug mates. Just don't overthink these things. Okay.
Right. Anyway, merchandise. Who knows where it'll go? Probably nowhere.
In fact, definitely nowhere.
Toilet seat covers, decorated checkbook covers.
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Yeah. Checkbooks.
Right. On that nostalgic note, that's probably a better nostalgia than this film.
Checkbook covers. Go and look it up, kids. it was a it was a dark time anyway
right on that note i'm gonna say cheerio see you bye.
Yep, I'm in, I'm invested, don't let me down.
And unfortunately, in the second half, or probably the last two thirds,
if I'm completely honest, it started to steadily go downhill.
It is easy to pinpoint when the film goes wrong, and that's when he goes to
Beverly Hills, or his daughter's character's introduced.
Did anyone really ask for this film? And I would say probably no.
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Music.
Oh hey you're welcome where did i
go from there hello with a bit of
break from the norm here this isn't an 80s film it isn't a 90s film although
it is nostalgia nostalgia bait we are covering and we thought we'd better get
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in on the axlf game um that everyone's watching recently released uh on july
the 3rd on netflix i think quite a lot of people have seen it i think it's It's
been quite successful for Netflix.
But we are going to discuss it, obviously, because it harkens back to two podcasts
we've already covered, Beverly Hills Cop and Beverly Hills Cop 2.
And no, we'll never be doing Beverly Hills Cop 3, but we'll get to that in a moment.
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Let's roll the trailer. We'll see you at the other side.
Good morning, everybody. It's another beautiful day here in Beverly Hills.
What the hell was that?
Let me guess.
Foley. Did you say Foley?
(01:35):
Foley! You stole a helicopter? I didn't realize that you couldn't really fire a helicopter.
Otherwise, I would have came up with a different idea. I told you it was a bad idea.
Oh, hey! He shot my run!
You know, this is very embarrassing. You know, part of me would rather get locked
up than get caught in this little Fisher-Price-looking squad car. Y'all are the Lego cops.
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Jane, hey, this is your father. Before you hang up, I'm in town.
I've been arrested at... Hello?
You sure y'all paying y'all's bills? Because this phone don't work.
This isn't my first time in Beverly Hills. Yeah, I saw that.
84, 87, and then 94. But this place has changed a bit. What brings you back to 90210?
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I got a call from Billy. He's in trouble now. What do you want from me?
I want you to be a cop again. You got to do something.
And so if you damage any city property You're in a snowplow?
Yeah, we're in a damn snowplow, what's the problem?
A lot of blind spots in a snowplow,
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I'm on an undercover mission with Ah-Way-Fo-Ni You're pissing off a lot of people,
That means we gave it close,
You're safe, everybody's safe There's no seatbelt in the middle.
What the hell with the seatbelt? We on the edge!
Music.
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Let's get it! Whoo! Aah! We're gonna need some backup. Whoa!
What are you doing? I'm getting us some backup.
God, I miss T-Rex.
Okay, so before we go into what we thought about it, if you just look purely
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at that trailer, does that make you tantalize you and say, ooh, yeah, I'm in for that?
Because it did for me. Well, it did for me when I first saw it.
I was like, okay, this is going to be a bigger budget.
There's going to be a lot more to it. it's not going to be set about looking
for a memory card around a theme park as as in was beverly hill's got three
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i believe that was the plot anyway it was set definitely set a theme park i
definitely think it was another memory card but yeah so here we are beverly hill's got four.
40 years later been stuck in development hell this since early 2000 early 2000s
is it really 40 years later is it really 84 yep 40 years how old is how old is is any murphy,
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40 40 years older his real life
is 63 yeah because i looked 23 when he made
beverly's cop well he's 63 now so yeah i
guess so but he because one of the things i noticed in this film
is how well he'd aged compared to some of his co-stars and
i was checking out their their ages yeah he's 63 well
i don't know if you can see that we've you know apart from joe he's not
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playing today and amanda who i will get to why she's not on there in a moment
i'm called botox millionaire because whoever did the botox for this film must
have made an absolute mint i must be coining it in time to pay for the yacht
because there's a lot of filler here and it's not just the story,
although not all the cast apparently could afford it because some of them look
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like they've been freshly dug up they have not aged well maybe i've not once
taught um but if we're explaining I'm the boy with the dagger tattoo because, look, they're viewers.
Oh damn did that just happen wow bad boy where'd you
get that well it's a festival so yeah
it's right i mean it's not just like a henna one
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it's real no it's not real but no it's quite good though
doesn't it i'm thinking again so yeah well
for those listening to us that then go out and
must tune into youtube now to see it you've been duped already
you you already know that you've been been duped but
it does look impressive well as regular listeners well yeah
as our followers as our dedicated followers will know we covered american
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history x last week a few days ago yeah and uh
it just reminded me of the power of tattoos and the symbolism so i thought ed
norton looked pretty pretty nifty it would
have been nice if you had that for american history x and you had a
swastika yeah yeah i uh
i do have hr departments to to navigate and i thought that's
probably a step too far that'd be an image that'd come
(06:09):
back to haunt me really wouldn't it but uh the ai that
helps us with the um the clips for american history x
definitely had its work cut out like oh i'll
have to stop here can't mention that it's a good way
to get fired though you know oh yeah good job racially.
Most racially aggravated walk around sleeveless yeah
a little dagger rose on it butterflies couple
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of red heart a black heart for old time's sake and yeah that's
my tattoo and i think i might actually get one because i have a few compliments it
won't wash off though that's the only thing that's a bit problematic so hopefully it's
not like a phoenix knight situation a tiger
tattoo yeah but yeah definitely something if you will pop on
the uh whatsapp group later but perhaps charlie can put a link i
always say this charlie put a link to these things and i will put them into
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things and i will i will write phoenix knights and writing it down there okay
okay phoenix knights and uh yeah boy with the dagger tattoo everyone well no
that's my contribution to this pod because i've got a lot of positive things
to say about axel f yes right Right, okay.
Well, do you want me to go first? Right, okay. What was I expecting?
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I was expecting Coming to America, the sequel. I was expecting a bit of that.
Then when I saw the trailer, I went, I don't think it's going to be that.
Thankfully, it isn't that. But that's damning with faint praise,
really, because that's, again, probably one of the worst films in the last four or five years.
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What does it want to do? It wants to push all your nostalgia buttons.
And if you're in the right frame of mind and you've had a few drinks and you're
feeling a bit nostalgic for the past, this might just press your buttons.
It did with me. For the first 20 minutes, I had a smile like a Cheshire cat
because I was like, great, wonderful, excellent. Yeah, I'm in.
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Hitting the button with Bob Seger's Shakedown from Beverly Hills Cop 2.
Later on, we get Neutron Dance by the Pointer Sisters. sisters button button
button button all good great we got
glenn fry as the heat is on too oh sorry yeah and it
opens with that and you're like yep i'm in i'm invested don't let me down and
unfortunately in the second half or probably the last two thirds if i'm completely
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honest it started to steadily go downhill to the point where i think there's
bits at the ending which which make zero sense.
And literally it almost felt like, and we'll get to those in a moment.
It felt like the writers just went, oh no, no, no, no. We've forgotten the bit in the back of the car.
We've forgotten that bit. We didn't put it in. Well, we can't put it back in
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the film. We can't put it in the middle where it should be.
Let's put it at the end. But why would it be in the end? He's in hospital.
Why would you have a stakeout?
And there we go. And that kind of sums up the film. The helicopter scene is totally superfluous.
Jordan, Joseph Gordon-Levitt should just put Alan Smithy on his credits.
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I know it's only for directors and just not be a part of this because he was
totally wasted and I really didn't enjoy him. And I think he's an absolutely wonderful actor.
So thanks for trying is what I would say.
I appreciate that you gave it a go.
It wasn't as bad as three and coming to America and,
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immediately after this on a final note i went back and watched beverly hills cop.
And just enjoyed every single part of that and enjoyed
what it's trying to do what it achieved the performances everything
so yeah that's me on the
basis that i've seen the whole film yeah we'll get
to why joe hasn't yeah but i think i think you sum it up well really so i don't
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know about having a big grin on my face but i enjoyed the opening kind of 10-15
minutes or something thing i think it is easy to pinpoint when the film goes
wrong and that's when he goes to beverly hills and the or his daughter's characters
introduced and you just know that this kind of.
Uptight ball-busting lawyer that she plays is is predictable how that's going
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to pan out and and i think it's just not she's not fun at all and that and the
film just misses the opportunity to have a good time i think you can forgive
a lot of potholes and there definitely are some if everyone's kind of having
a good time and it's a bit tongue-in-cheek and there's the odd kind of,
nod to the audience perhaps but they for some reason decide to
play it you know a bit safe but not
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sort of safe like um they try and make
a more serious film out of it now it's beverly hills cop
franchise it's not a serious film but they should have
turned the dial a bit more away from kind of plot and and
kind of they should have made it
more fun the choices they made more of the
old cast unless they were just too decrepit and passed it to
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actually contribute to this film and in one or two cases that might have
been there that might have been the reason why but yeah you
think it'll be nostalgic let's just inject that into our
veins properly kind of lean into it not not kind of shy away from
it and yeah it was a missed opportunity but as
you say better than coming to america too which was a travesty yes
indeed it was joe joe who
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before you thought you only saw half the film and now
we're not even half the film and now you're going to explain why yeah i'd say
i probably saw a third of the film right and i just got i said i'm out i'm done
i'm just tired of it i just knew it was a movie i wasn't going to like did anyone really.
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Ask for this film and i would say probably no i think this is something that
eddie murphy probably they pushed around to all these different studios and
everybody said no and then netflix was like,
all right maybe you know and they probably got it
on the cheap but we just
didn't need a movie like this like i never saw
a three i saw one and two and one was very good two was okay you know three
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i heard this awful yeah i forget too and i definitely remember one but i'll
say one of of the big problems with this movie that I could tell right away
is like Charlie had asked me to help him with the marketing because he was busy.
With a lot of things so i looked at
the new poster for axel f
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and then i looked at the original poster from
beverly hills cop those are two different people he
is completely changed it's kind of like reminds me
like in rocky 3 like when
mickey tells rocky it's like you know your problem
is you you got civilized and that's what happened
with eddie murphy he is not the young
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eddie murphy young young eddie murphy again you look at that poster
he's badass on that poster you know
he's not smiling he's holding a gun he's sitting
on a car he just looks badass and he's got moments of comedy in the first movie
but in this movie he's just old he's not you don't feel like he's a tough guy
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that he's a cop there's just so many problems i had with you know his performance and i would.
Say i don't think there's i didn't see all of the movie but
i don't think there's one good performance in this movie i think that that's
the problem is i and again
i don't know the history of this movie but i have a feeling eddie murphy wanted it
done did he have any writing credits in it
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i don't know i did ask co-pilot to uh to
to basically give me a pricey but it's decided to wipe everything out
that i that i put in there probably yeah i
think he i think he has got some writing credits isn't he to
this and directing as well perhaps so he's
the only good i mean he's the thing that obviously i know
it's an easy thing to say he's going to carry the whole film but he
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does carry the whole film there's there's you know we're not dr doolittle norbert
eddie murphy here he's doing his best to try and you know bring it bring everything
back up you know into recent times but but joe's point spot on i think which
is like not just even the beverly hills cop original.
Film but like his stand-up you know eddie murphy as an
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individual was delirious yeah yeah you know edgy
yeah in your face like you know it was quite
amazing that he became such a big star you know particularly you know
without turning around put my foot in
it but like as a black actor at the time he was a mega star
wasn't he and um but actually he didn't i don't think
he didn't play the game or at least for a long time in his career you know he
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kind of retained his integrity and this sort of
thing is is you know i'm i'm prior to
this of course as well as where way kind of sold out and took the
the hollywood dollar and uh now it's um you
say it's kind of 90 fun and 10 edge and previously it was the the other way
around yeah absolutely yeah joe any any other final thoughts are we gonna give
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scores by the way i mean i do i i didn't want everyone gave one because i didn't
see it fully right okay so it's up to you and me don do you want to go first,
Yeah, so I did get, it's interesting, Joe dropped out at about the 40-minute
mark because I made a note in my notes that that's when my attention started
to wane and I kind of have given up on it being a good film.
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So honestly, yeah, about a three and a half for me.
Sort of things happen if you're in the right mood. I left it until just before
we're recording to watch it, which I don't normally do.
And yeah, Sunday afternoon perhaps wasn't the best time. A couple of pints or
feeling relaxed and watching it, maybe if I scored a bit higher,
but yeah, three and a half for me.
All right, okay. I'm not far away. I'm four.
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It's not just a school report must try harder please don't do unfortunately
we already know on june the 28th i believe 28 21st they announced beverly hills cop 5.
So yeah no way did they really yep there's another
one there's another one being made what happened was paramount loaned
netflix the rights to this to make axel f
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and they'll they'll end up doing the next film so it won't be netflix
um i'm sure netflix will make a ton of
you know ton of money from subscribers and you know word
of mouth and and people like me who might not have netflix
to go actually this is the thing that's gonna you know
push me to push me to watch it however if
i had amazon prime and i watched the remake
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of roadhouse i'll go don't do that to me again don't don't do that and again
obviously they're coming to america sequel and amazon prime which stay stay
well clear of i moving on now to to a wider so we've got three and a half and
a four and and from joe So presumably,
can you give anything on the first 40 minutes? Three?
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Two yeah maybe three maybe it's
very right okay this is different from the
rotten tomatoes rotten no not different rotten tomatoes
critic score 68 and if you go on youtube we
will probably be one of the few channels well officially
official in the sense that we are official we've been going for five
years now that that would actually be
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honest about this i do feel there's an emperor's new clothes style
thing out there which is oh yeah nostalgia
came back and it hit every hit every button and pressed it
you know i'm like what oh it tries but admit
when it got it wrong admit that it that it didn't before we
get into the actors and you know whether or not they they dug up
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as you so uh rightfully said don before we get into that my
my problem is this and i didn't think about it at the time but
i did think about it on the train today because i've been in birmingham you
so not putting you on the spot here why did axel foley go to um beverly hills
in beverly hills cop one first film why did he go there anyone bueller.
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Did a friend of his get killed yes so mikey gets killed and at the start he
comes to see him and tells him about what we're about the bearer bonds and tells
him about Steven Burkoff, you know, Steven Burkoff's character.
So he goes there because he's in it.
And one thing they say in this is that even in this film, I know you didn't
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get to this part, Joe, but one thing, the schmaltzy bit at the end of this film,
well, one thing you know about actually is he's focused, you know,
he's totally focused on this sort of thing. And you're like, yeah.
And he's also got a sense of, you know, completion, a sense of community,
a sense of people around him, and he genuinely cares.
If I got not an answer to the first one, I'm guaranteed not to get an answer
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to why did he go in Beverly Hills Cop 2?
Again, before the music kicks in, like radio, if there's too much silence, it's going to be. Go on.
I think one of the main characters from the first movie was killed.
No. Yeah. The main character had an attempt on his, yeah, attempt on his life.
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Bridget Nielsen. So Bogermill, played by Ronnie Cox, who was in Total Recall.
So he basically goes, I'm dropping everything. I'm in the middle of an undercover sting.
I'm dropping everything. thing gives the keys to the ferrari to paul
reiser and says just drive around make it look as if i'm still
on the scene and he shoots straight off to beverly hills that's so
that was that was my answer by the way but joe it wasn't was it okay
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you've written it down of you you're gonna put it yeah yeah common film knowledge
that's why that's what i was gonna say so please tell me why in goodness name
suddenly he's abandoned his daughter because i i just don't understand how that can happen.
With a character like that. You're just completely changing his character.
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Well, is she a man in him? Yeah, it was explained, I think, in part,
wasn't it, that the mother forced him out and that's why she took the mother's
surname and all that sort of stuff, so she pushed him away.
But he never made an attempt to try and reconcile. Every year he'd send her
a Christmas card, every year he'd send her a birthday card.
I'm really sorry, please get in touch with Dad, I do miss you, I do love you.
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You honestly it was so tedious so that section of this film where they're exploring
the father daughter relationship is pretty shade predictable and just dragged
on interminably and then she
disappears mysteriously from the film for like a large section which kind of
is a positive i think and then when she mysteriously reappears in the third
act she's her character's done a you know 180 degree personality change and
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is now really willing to listen and to engage her and things so yeah honestly
it's a poorly written role that drags the film down and then.
You know conveniently all comes together at the end so yeah yeah well
that was a big problem i had is like when they first attempt
to i guess persuade her
to drop the case and like they attack her
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in a car and then they hang her off the side of a building it's
like why didn't they just kill her you know i mean i know
it's because the answer is because it's a movie but if
you're gonna go that far to do something like that you just kill
the person i mean you don't like let them just
live and say oh maybe they'll be so scared that
they'll drop the case just get rid of them i mean it's like
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no one sees you you know if they did if you're
worried that people are going to see you you wouldn't have done it to begin with you
know if there were cameras there i don't know
it's just i feel like i could just
tell the writing was very stupid and like i said you know
what it reminds me of too it's indiana jones
and the dial of destiny no god you know we
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got a sequel for that you know where again we loved the indiana jones in the
80s nobody asked for it yeah no one asked for it they introduced a female character
to kind of be smarter than him and i'm assuming his daughter plays that role
in this and you know again instead of,
you know embracing the character and having fond memories of the character ruins the character.
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Because it's like you know there's that phrase like you can't go
home again he can't be axel anymore
because again they're two different people like i said i i think what they could
have done and i know it's probably heresy if they wanted to have a successful
movie or a reboot or or you know a successful franchise that's the word reboot
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just do it all over again with a younger actor i I mean,
the only one I can think of right now would probably be Michael B. Jordan.
I know he's not very funny and everything, but they could have played it more serious.
I mean, just have a cop that's based in Detroit going to Beverly Hills,
show how he does his police work as opposed to the poofy kind of work that they do in Beverly Hills.
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Or have it where Eddie Murphy is soft, where he does have a desk job now.
Something may have happened to him where it's like you know i don't want to
be on the streets anymore because it is odd that someone that old if he's in
his 60s would still be on the streets you know being a detective and then he
was never promoted during that whole time,
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i'm under the impression because he costs every time he did sort of police work
and investigative work he ended up wrecking wrecking half the city but he got results damn it yeah.
I must say, the good point you raised, why didn't he just kill the lawyer?
Why didn't he just kill his daughter? I think Joe's right, and obviously it's
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preposterous, but we've got to give it a pass on that sort of suspension of
disbelief, I think, because that's not even the most strange thing.
No, but that's the attempt to kill her, is what I'm saying.
If somebody came to you and said, oh, my daughter's had an accident, what happened?
Somebody tied a cable on it and threw a car off the side of the thing.
Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Oh, no, no, no, she's fine.
Even if they didn't kill him, they'd stick a gun in a mouth or to a temple,
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and it has the same effect as dangling some Machiavellian skein to scare her.
But like Kevin Bacon's character, this crooked cop, the way that he's like a
Doctor Evil-style flaunts it, and some sort of Bond villain tiptoes around the
fact that he's evil, acknowledges it.
This wouldn't happen, would it? If you were on the take and you're in for millions
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and involved in drugs and money laundering and things like that,
you wouldn't kind of walk around tapping your nose and giving them a
cheeky wink when you're being investigated i think you try and
cover your tracks a bit better than that but uh plus his
performance is dialed in but most of them have been recently uh
most of the stuff he's been involved in since so joe just
for your benefit kevin bacon stars in a long-running series of
mobile phones in the uk and
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i just think it's totally trash news that him as an actor now i can't hear
his voice anymore without having a being triggered by it so yeah that's understandable
i'm writing that down i'm putting the e adverts in the in the comments no no
that's what i don't want you to do because it makes me feel i feel a bit jippy
every time i hear it these days they're so ubiquitous so yeah kevin bacon can
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he can do one as far as i'm concerned.
That might be the most contentious thing that's the thing the ai
is going to pick up why kevin bacon's career went wrong and
it's just going to be like e-adverts that's it
sunk in that trace i'll keep it clean but i'll call him a
greedy so-and-so that sold out his integrity in the uk you see this joke like
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famous hollywood actors and actresses they they do adverts in countries like
japan or whatever it might be and he's done cellular phones in the uk are for
years now and they're all oh wait a minute that annoying advert in the cinema that stars ours,
which is about turning your phones off, basically, and enjoying it and not watching it.
No, no, no. About not watching it on a screen. You've got a family.
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One's watching it on a tablet.
One's watching it on the little TV while they're cooking. One's watching it
on the phone. He's going, no, no, no. You need to go to the big screen.
John Boyega is basically telling you that you need to turn your phone off. Oh, really?
Ridley scott's in it as well he doesn't say anything but just
basically gives a disproving look as if like well why are you
watching my film something like this because that's how people could that's how
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people consume things these days unfortunately nobody's going to the cinema
as much i i think we've had an advertisement with nicole kidman for about six
or seven years that everybody's just so sick of what what did she do oh no she's
not it's for amc and And, you know,
she talks about the love of movies and seeing it in theaters and all that.
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And it's just like, just start the frigging movie. You know,
it's like we have to see this shit over and over again. It's like we get it, you know.
You get half an hour, half an hour between the start time and when the film starts.
Is it about Dom? It's about 25 minutes, half an hour now, isn't it?
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I used to show up early for like the coming attractions.
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Now I show up late because there's even commercials in between the coming attractions.
Yes. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, what the frig? You know,
we get that. We get sanity.
Adverts, adverts, trailers, another advert for saying, take your phone off, then an advert for Audi.
And you're like, go, do you want to run the trailers again while we're here?
We might as well dig in. If you're going to give us free popcorn to watch this, what's this rubbish?
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I've never made my pick and mix last to the actual film starting these days.
You won't know what pick and mix is. Those 20 minutes. Do you know what pick and mix is, Joe? No.
It's like it's a crime a crime against the
the working man you get a little if i'm not
bothered about popcorn so you get a bag of sweets instead like lots of
different types of candy i suppose you'd call it so for
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a modest sized pouch of it what about seven pounds fifty you're looking at aren't
you sorts out 10 100 grams is is a ridiculous price you go to you're gonna like
that story it's about a quarter of the price than they charge in the cinema
but previously what What happened is it's just a row, a rack of different sweets.
And before they had any sort of hygiene or health and safety,
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it just used to be kids' hands going in and just lifting and putting them in. It still is.
You're at least taking three different types of urine when you're consuming it.
But they put white mice in there. How can you resist a big bowl full of white
mice before you start the film?
Again, he doesn't know what you mean. White mice? Right.
Put those in the comments.
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Real white mice? i was the
osborne star bite the heads off little candy white
mice you know i don't know what that is honestly they're just
pure sugar they're so bad for you and this is a childish thing that i do but
yeah white mice if i'm feeling particularly flamboyant i might even have some
pink mice in there as well so oh is it one of those are those the marshmallow
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peeps not marshmallows they're like a hard hard sugary sweet they make they
make a bowl of sugar seem sour by comparison they're that sweet
my heart's skipping a beat i'm feeling sick and then the film starts yeah that's
my expectation it's a good experience perfect perfect time roll credits.
Okay let's get back let's get back to film well i
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did want to say something about kevin bacon as
i saw him and i think probably five minutes after
i saw him i turned it off it's right
away you see him and you know he's the bad guy you know
he stands up and he's like i've heard a lot of
good things about you axel you know it's
like yeah typical villain line and
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all that but i am looking at the director because
i i have to put a lot of blame on the director because if he's
directing the damn movie he has a lot of input so
i'm like oh so who is this guy so the guy's name is
mark molloy so i never heard of him so
i look at his filmography what is he known for beverly hills
cop axle f this is big thing
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and then he's got an apple tv thing where
he's a writer an apple tv thing where he's a writer that's it
why that's why then it's like
why would you pick because i i seriously think eddie murphy wanted
to do it but he's like what's the budget you know give me 75 of the budget as
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a salary and i just think that they didn't spend any money on writing they didn't
spend any money on directing because this guy's got zero experience and i did
look eddie murphy did not write any of this oh right.
And it looked like a bunch of white guys wrote it too, which is kind of weird.
Wait a minute. It doesn't happen anymore, Joe. Okay. I know.
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Blimey. Yeah. And they have white men.
But it shows that all races can screw up the writing then.
This is when it should have been a Disney movie because then they would have resolved that problem.
Well, yeah. Can we talk about the other stars, the other aged stars? Yes. Oh, please do.
They don't fare too well, do they? so who's the
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first one we see let's go through them all then paul riser
is that how you pronounce it it's his detroit boss he's uh
paul riser yes and that's
why i'm called botox millionaire because that's where most of
the botox budget went into paul riser's face oh my
god yes you realize that was him yeah
but i had to double check it yeah that's uh
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ill-advised route that it's gone down hopefully
just for this film problem that's how it looks all the time burke from
aliens and now just burke i know
i did just think of that by the way i didn't have that ready
but yeah it's a zinger all right well if it's
not for him what do we think for to judge reinhold then good lord
man what i mean just comb your hair you know just
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don't make it look as if you've just taken your head out a deep front
fryer i think his problems go beyond just dragging a comb
across i was starting with the hair have a wash brush
your teeth yeah exfoliates i don't know the
list goes on really because yeah he looked
like he had leprosy i thought when i when i saw him i thought where's where's
the massive bell that he needs to hang around his neck and walk around his parts
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we're going to start dropping off he did not look well and it was no surprise
to me when he just in fact the only surprise was when he eventually resurfaced
having been tortured for two days which is how they explained his appearance
i suppose but yeah no the man does.
Not look good and um and i thought to myself wow i haven't seen him
for ages and indeed we haven't because his career deteriorated
sharply after devli hills the original couple didn't it
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he did um what vice versa it flopped
and this direct quote from him that was really the end of my highfalutin hollywood
career reinhold said later that's where the phone stopped ringing he also developed
a reputation for being difficult on set i was spoiled and i was arrogant i was
very demanding had an overblown image of who i was and i got a reputation for
being difficult and rightly so, which is why we've not seen him.
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And presumably he's been living in a dank cellar somewhere, just fueled by bitterness
and regret ever since, because that's how it comes across, to be honest.
So, Judge, if you're listening, sorry, mate, but yeah.
He was on a Seinfeld episode. He was pretty funny. He was a close talker.
Okay. Okay. That's not the career highlight he was looking forward to after Beverly Hills Cop 2.
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I bet you most people know him for that role. Okay.
Speaking of unwell, let's go to his partner, who's now police chief.
Wow. Wow. Tag it. John Ashton.
You know, you do feel like he had to, in order to do like 30 seconds worth of
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takes, that probably took four months.
Because he needed a sit down in between every
word i think he's wearing a corset i think he's
wearing a corset or guys thinking like he probably wore you
know probably has a lap band surgery but it
didn't work well well i mean that was the most startling one but there's there
is two ends of the spectrum on there it's looking old and a bit ropey and and
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obviously i i was speaking out of turn and saying that Paul Reiser took most
of the Botox in this. It isn't.
It's the next character that we'll talk about, which is Serge.
I named it after him. Oh, man.
Serge or Martin Shaw as Fromp in Father the Bride is pretty much the same character, which is funnier.
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They're both as funny as each other. Is he funny in this?
No, because it's just shoehorned in.
Oh, we need to speak to somebody. oh well how are we gonna how are we gonna
get to them oh i know somebody that can help us with that,
cuts the surge surge takes them to
get get the answer and it's almost
like mcguffin it's almost like force you know the rise of
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skywalker i need to go over here to do that i need over here to do
that how am i going to get here surge is going to help me how am i
going to get over there well you know and it
was but that's spot on it's just this happens then
this happens then this happens and this happens and it's just like
a series of yeah holding predictable
you know as you say episodic little sections but
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i thought that they were i was wondering how they were going to play
this character and whether they'd have to dial it back and the answer is
they did didn't they it was it was definitely it was like a diluted version
i mean it's nice i'm not as much of a fan of the
original character anyway this kind of flamboyant homosexual character
that he plays the campus man in america but here
they just dialed it back and he was he was just there his
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hair was a different color and that was kind of it really is he gay in
real life i don't believe so i don't i don't think he is yeah i'm surprised
people didn't complain about that because that's the big thing now is that you
can't have a street character playing a gay character anymore unless there's
a legacy thing there there's a legacy thing oh you bring the same you know you
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bring the same character back.
I mean talking about the action scenes the the
first bit's good with shakedown with the snowplow that's pretty
good oh i didn't like that well you know what i will tell you
i mean like i like the very beginning again
like where we did hear the songs from the previous movies and
he's going through detroit he's driving but that's it
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as soon as the hockey game starts it goes downhill
for me who is that idiot that's
sitting next to him you know it's like the token white guy there's
too many white people in this movie i gotta say
it's like what the frig you know
it it's just really well you
gotta have the white people in there to make them look incompetent so that's
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fine but you did which is i don't know it's just the helicopter can i just get
to it because we we said we were only going to do half an hour on this and we're
a little bit over already but i mean it'll just reach its natural end i would
say the helicopter scene there's this again Again, for you, Joe,
and for those who have watched it, they need to get away from there.
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So a la Blue Thunder, they steal the helicopter on the helipad up on the roof.
Joseph Gordon-Levitt is supposed to be a helicopter pilot, says it's a bad idea,
get in the chopper, can't fly it because he's got PTSD because he had a crash in a helicopter.
Did he kill someone? I can't remember. But anyway, so anyway,
he got PTSD from the helicopter flying,
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hence why you see in the trailer, the helicopter's mostly on the highway way
rather than actually up in the air it is totally not needed i didn't like the
interaction between the two of them i'm just like cut that bit out this film
should have been 90 minutes,
that was another thing too that he had a romance with his daughter you don't
have to connect every dot.
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You know just to be clear we talk about his partner yeah
but uh yeah that was too long definitely
yeah it was you know what it worked i
think is if they would have done something like beverly
hills cop meets lethal weapon you know like if they did that like where they
combine the two franchises into one and i think that would have sold a lot of
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tickets even though it probably would have sucked or maybe it might not have
but it you know i think that well old Old Mel Gibson, old Mel Gibson, old Eddie Murphy.
Yeah. And I, cause I know they're making another lethal weapon.
I think that's going to bomb too.
You know, it's just like, get like, we don't like, again, we didn't need another Indiana Jones.
We didn't, we don't need another lethal weapon. We don't need another Beverly
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Hills cop. What else are they doing?
You know, they're going to be doing jaws eventually, Charlie.
Well, Ghostbusters is being raped and pillaged, isn't it? Oh yeah. Yes.
Yeah. I'm not enjoying the new one. I just start to watch it.
Yeah. Yeah, it sucks. I did see it. It's crap.
I haven't got to Bill Murray yet, so it may still redeem itself.
I don't know. Oh, well, we're not talking about that movie, but he's done, too.
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He is not the same person he was, too. No, first of all, he's too much of a dramatic actor.
And again, you look at the Bill Murray from the original Ghostbusters versus this one. No.
The old one would have kicked his ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, sorry. Okay.
And the last annoyance for me is that basically i think we said just before
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we started recording there's the bit at the end the famous bit with the banana
in the tailpipe obviously there is no banana in the tailpipe in this one but
right at the end when axel's in hospital.
Taggart a police chief and billy estranged doing god knows what are sat in a
car on a stakeout at the hospital,
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where axel the hero who's not done anything wrong and
is the hero is in the hospital why are
you staking out the hospital what are you watching he's already
got police in there that are protecting him why are you still to take out
of there anyway as predicted cops bad cops predicted
he comes out sits in the back of the car in
his hospital gown and you're like
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and and it did feel like we left that out
we forgot to write it in so let's stick it at the end somewhere yeah
i'm thinking in fours quite generous i might come down to three and a half i
don't know i won't be i certainly won't be like roadhouse i won't be watching
this again and i might actually go back and watch beverly hills cop three now
and just say am i is this the worst of the four i don't know,
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i might have to that's taking one for the team mate that's taking,
life too short do like a good theme park i might have seen three if it's the
theme park one yeah That's the one where he's trying to rescue some kids that
are trapped on a ferris wheel.
And then, like, one of the… Don't say all the highlights. It's so bad. Yes. Yes, it is.
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But, unfortunately. So, look, just put it down to modern-day filmmaking.
This is what they do. They take a good idea. They take something that we love,
and they screw around with it, and they wreck it.
Like they did with Indiana Jones, as you pointed out. Like they've done with
Star Wars. Like they've done with Lord of the Rings.
Fine. fine look it's just what they do now unfortunately as as well i'm speaking
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for myself here and for you joe as gen uh gen x's you're are you still classed
as a millennial have we done this don are you i don't know what's the cut i've
bought in the 70s i can't be a millennial can i.
Yeah but i'm not sure i need to look it up and then i can't i am you're a gen
(40:34):
x you're definitely Gen X.
Am I? Well, that's cool. Cause we're in our, cause we're in our late,
well, where we passed half century.
Are you looking at all that i reckon that's killed the viewer numbers now isn't
it no the viewer numbers lovers they they love our uh they love our pithy and
witty and creative takes on it let's keep it pithy then i reckon dom is just
(40:55):
outside just outside are you looking it up joe.
Yeah here we go i am it drum roll uh so 1946 to 1964 is baby boomer yeah boomers
1965 to 1980 80 is gen x gen x millennial is 1981 to 1996 and gen z is 1997 to 2012.
(41:18):
Is it a new category now non-binary
come on let's uh gen waste of life
get with the program gen don't care tick tock
the tick tock lot right well anyway
there we go i hope you've enjoyed this because i
mean we didn't enjoy watching the film it seems but
(41:39):
but listeners don't despair because we have uh my choice
coming up for our next feature length ultimately in starship
troopers so oh and i've got to tell you i've got to be honest with you i started
watching a bit of the the sea i just put in starship troopers on youtube and
started watching some of those scenes again and just went well obviously i won't
spoil it but i just know well it was it was good ah good well i wonder where
(42:03):
you're we've got to go with that.
Oh, not at all. I don't think, yeah. Yeah, I couldn't tell either.
So I want her perspective on that. Yeah, she'll be back.
She'll actually watch the next, she'll actually watch Starship Troopers rather
than, I think I might, I don't think I said at the start, I think I just tailed off why she isn't here.
She watched the first half of it with me through her phone. I think she might
(42:24):
have looked up a couple of times, maybe.
And then after an hour went, I'm just not digging this. And I went, we haven't watched it.
So I don't know how you. You get like one of
those devices that was in a clockwork orange what
they did with alec trapper the chair with her eyes open and it's
like or just a mobile phone blocker i mean that would probably uh i
don't know what that'd do to her i think it'd be that don't work she could fall asleep
(42:45):
yes anyway
right on that note so where yes we will be back squarely
in the 90s squarely with you know a better
film i think it's that probably tantalizing it's
probably not hard to say it's going to be a better film than this but yeah
i hope you enjoyed it anytime something like this happens we probably should
have done this with roadhouse but i'm really glad we didn't because i only watched
(43:08):
half of that we'll do this again so i hope you've enjoyed it give us a like
and a subscribe uh give us a comment we've after after dom's choice we've got
a viewers our viewer stroke listener stroke.
Consumer consumer consumer i just it's
that better way to describe it well consumer implies we're
(43:29):
getting paid for this so unless it's something you're not telling me then you're not
getting paid sorry wait a minute you two not getting paid no okay
t-shirts selling on patreon or something
like that you know yeah rusted
junk actually i would i'd wear one of my in fact i i will
get a mock i will get a prototype done and i'll
wear it on holiday there you go and if anybody comes
(43:51):
up to me and says then they'll get if anyone comes up and tell me what we're
all about rather than just looking it up and give us a thing they'll get like
a prize what's the prototype t-shirt you don't do you're not designing a rocket
i mean it's just a cloth that you put no but it's a prototype to love it if
it's good and it's good quality we'll,
flog a few okay okay right well let's do that then let's then mugs oh key ring
(44:16):
a prototype I forgot to put a hole in the top of it.
You know, that's the mug mates. Just don't overthink these things. Okay.
Right. Anyway, merchandise. Who knows where it'll go? Probably nowhere.
In fact, definitely nowhere.
Toilet seat covers, decorated checkbook covers.
(44:37):
Yeah. Checkbooks.
Right. On that nostalgic note, that's probably a better nostalgia than this film.
Checkbook covers. Go and look it up, kids. it was a it was a dark time anyway
right on that note i'm gonna say cheerio see you bye.
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