How Couples Survive RV Life: Kids, Intimacy, and Staying Sane in Small Spaces

Can your relationship survive life in 300 square feet? In this episode I (Patti Hunt) welcomes full-time RVers James & Kelly Raber, of the RoadRabers, we have a candid talk about the emotional, logistical, and marital challenges of full-time RV living with three kids. From communication breakdowns and moving every four days to embracing intimacy and humor in tight quarters, the RoadRabers share actionable insights from five years on the road. You'll hear how they navigate burnout, back-in battles, parenting, and prioritizing each other, all while keeping the wheels turning. If you're a traveling couple or RV-curious family, this episode is your survival guide.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can a marriage survive the RV life?
I'm Patti Hunt.
You're listening to the RV LifePodcast.
James, what is the biggestrelationship challenge you have
had while living the RV life?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Living in very small quarters and not being able to
communicate well, that you needto move good and we're going to
talk about that.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I know my rv friends out there have some of the same
issues.
We are going to dive into allof that.
I also lived with my husbandfor over three years in an RV
very small space we lived in aClass A 40 foot, but still small
for two people and I know therewere difficulties for us and we

(00:53):
were learning as we went along.
And as some of my listenersknow our story, some don't.
So let me just give you a quickstory.
We went full-time RVing fouryears ago.
We were on the road for alittle over three years and then
a year ago we got off the roadbecause my husband became ill

(01:16):
and could no longer travel.
You know, with you guys I'mgoing to share some stories
because today we are talkingabout how to survive the RV life
when you're a couple, whenyou're a couple with three kids
in your case, some of the tipsand tricks you guys have learned
along the way, all of that intoday's episode.

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(02:43):
stays at these campgrounds.
Today's guests, james and KellyRaber, our full-time RVing
couple behind Road Rabers, afamily of five who hit the road
in 2020 with one big goal tolive their dream their way.
Since then, they've beentraveling the country in their
fifth wheel, raising and roadschooling their kids, while

(03:06):
sharing the real, raw and oftenhilarious side of RV life.
Hilarious, they are Frommechanical DIYs and destination
deep dives to honestconversations about marriage,
health and homeschooling.
Their content is all abouthelping others embrace freedom,
adventure and internationalliving, whether they're fixing

(03:30):
their truck, exploring tidepools or changing sunsets across
the Keys, james and Kellybelieve life is better when
you're doing it on your ownterms.
I want to welcome James andKelly Raber of Road Rabers to
the RV Life podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
You are welcome.
Okay, so we are going to go inthe time machine and go back to
we're going to make it kind ofshort because it is a huge story
because your relationshipstarted literally when you were
little kids.
So you were little kids, youhad a mutual friend.

(04:10):
Let's tell people a quick pieceof that story.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
So, yeah, that goes way back.
So in elementary school we, atsix and seven years old, our
families were unfortunatelysplitting up and and there was a
support group in our, ourschool and we we both attended
that.
And then we had a mutual friendand and we spent a lot of years

(04:38):
hanging out with each other notnecessarily, not necessarily by
choice, no, it was it was ourmutual friend that we liked more
, but I mean they were bad andExplorated each other.
Yeah, we even had a.
We'd hang out in the backyardafter school.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
In the bug club.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, we made a little bug club.
We found it, we found theevidence of that when they dug
up for their pool.
Um, we, we made a littlehabitat for, uh, for the bugs to
live in, and and buried it, andand they found that when they
dug for the pool.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
So uh, and then you know, life happened.
He moved out of state and weboth grew up.
Well, at the time we were bothin Arizona.
He moved out of state toMontana, ended up moving back,
but it wasn't like it is now, noFacebook and all that stuff, so
didn't really catch back up.
He joined the military, hadcome home for hometown

(05:49):
recruiting, which is after AIT,so they go to basic training and
then they go to like theirspecial school, and so after
that, before they joined theirpermanent party, they come home
to help the local recruitersrecruit other military members.
And happened to drive by our myhouse.
My mom still lives in thathouse and kind of caught up with
her and she's like oh, youshould call Kelly, gave him my
number and he ended up calling.

(06:11):
We met for coffee and that waskind of like the beginning of
what we became.
So that was in December of 2007.
Fast forward.
We ended up getting married inMarch of 2008.
And here we are.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
And now have three kids, right, okay, and you were
living in a six and bricks atthis time, so let's fast forward
.
I want to hear about theconversation.
Who was it that brought up theidea of RV living, and had you
ever done it before?
It was she's pointing to James,it was all.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
James.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
I could have imagined that was the case.
So how'd that conversationstart that you guys not only
decided to go RVing, butfull-time?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
So the original idea was to look at well, so it
wasn't to do full-time.
The original idea was to getsomething we could pull behind
our van or maybe upgrade our vanso we could get something a
little bit bigger.
Nothing too crazy.
We were looking in the6,000-pound towable area.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Much smaller than that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
So I have some injuries from the military that
are I like to sleep in my bedwith my pillow.
It makes things better for thenext following days.
I was like, well, not, why notbring the bed and the pillow
with me?
And then it was like, well, doyou wear how far do you want to
go by me?
Because if we want to go toMaine from Arizona, like do you

(07:41):
want to like a little 6,000pound trailer that we can only
take a little bit of stuff in?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
And I was like well, I'm not getting a big truck
unless we sell the house.
And then I think theconversation kind of like fell
off.
You know, life happened, um,and we didn't really.
We did go to look at a pop-uptrailer, um, and the salesman
there was extremely rude andnasty, and so we kind of like
pushed that to the side.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
And then one day, our house we got a notification we
like subscribed to, like Zillow,and we got a notification that
our house was we made a dealthat if our house ever got back
to the original value of whenthe, when it ballooned before
the housing market took a, andso it got up to that $250,000

(08:31):
range again and we're like sold.
We called our friend up to, webought the house with which was
a good friend of ours, and we'relike hey, list it.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
And then I was like, well, if we're going to sell it.
So in one of my things when wefirst bought our house was I did
not want to move, like I loathemoving which now we also joke
about, because we do it everylike two weeks and I loathe
moving.

(09:00):
It was miserable.
I also happened to be pregnantat the time, so it was extra,
extra emotional anduncomfortable.
And um, so I told him I said,if we move again, like that's
the last time.
So I'm like I don't want to.
I fell in love with a house inTexas, um, but I didn't know if
I really wanted to live there.
I'm like, well, I love thehouse, but what if I don't love

(09:22):
the area or the homeschoolingthere, or the weather or
whatever it may be?
I don't want to move there andthen live there for six months
and go.
I hate it here.
Let's move again, cause I don'twant to move again.
So he, well, what about that RVthing?
Why don't we travel for, like Idon't know three years?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
and see where we want to live see where we want to
live.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
So we had a plan we were going to do the West coast
for a year and the East coastfor a year, and then we were
going to fill in the blanks inthe middle and do Alaska one
year, and then we were going tobuy a house and settle down.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Now you're three kids in.
You're over five years probablycloser to six years of living
in the RV and in a fifth wheel.
You live in a very large fifthwheel and you move about every
two weeks, so all of this leadsto being able to communicate.
Your marriage obviouslysurvived all of this because

(10:16):
being pregnant and selling ahouse and all the things you did
.
So I want to jump in.
Let's jump in.
You're now living in a fifthwheel.
I'm going to say less than 400square feet of space.
Do you actually know what thisspace is?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I think we're well.
Yeah, we're just over 300, likethis far.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay, so not that we're needing to get so specific
, but for people listening, itis a small space.
It's a bedroom, Right right,it's a bedroom with three kids.
So let's talk about it.
How was it in the beginning?
You move into this RV withthree young kids.
What's it like in the beginning?

(10:56):
So, as we go through this, Iwant to talk to my listeners
about the challenges, theugliness, the problems and what
you learned and how you survivedand what you continue to do and
there's so much reason I askedyou guys to be on.
I've known you for a couple ofyears now.
Your channel so Instagram,Facebook, you have a YouTube

(11:19):
channel of seeing the thingsthat you guys do to make sure
that nobody can make surethere's not going to be
challenges or arguments or anger, or you know he made you mad,
she made you mad, but how youdeal with it and how you prevent
it.
So that's what we're going tohelp my listeners with today.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
I will say that we worked on our marriage very hard
for years before we moved intothe RV and I think I think that
that helped.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I think if we had started RVing five years earlier
, it would have been a littlebit of a different story, but at
the I mean at the end, I meanyou both have to be stubborn in
in kind of in a good way, I meanyou can't give up, um, but I am
, you can't, I'm going to, I'mgoing to.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
just, you can't give up on the marriage, you can't
give up on trying.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Um, yeah, it, because it's.
It's something that's continual, it's it's just like any other
goal in life.
It's the.
The finish line is really notobtainable.
Um, and the goal is is to makeher life as easy as I can today,
so she can make my life as easyas I can today and then,
hopefully, we have as easy alife as we can that day.

(12:37):
That's not how it works outevery day, but that's okay.
Like when we started, I wasrough and I mean I've been rough
for a long time.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
And and the kids were young.
Our youngest was two.
He was still in diapers when westarted.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
That's a hard season.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
And that's very hard season.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Um, we did have a bigger rig at the time.
We had a 42 footer instead of a35 footer.
The kids had a much larger bunkroom so they could have their
own space and I think that thatin the beginning helped you.
I think being in the rig thatwe're in now would not have
worked in the beginning, andthere was when we first started

(13:22):
one.
We had no idea what we weredoing.
First started we had one, wehad no idea what we were doing.
The first day that we steppedinto an RV was the day we bought
our rig, which we drove fromPhoenix to Dallas to purchase.
There was all kinds of hurdles.
There was the hurdles oflearning how to RV, learning how
to travel and and plan and Iwill say this was prior to covid

(13:46):
, so I feel like arty parks andand how you travel and stuff.
It felt different than it doesnow.
Um, but we also thought in thebeginning that like we were
going to move every four daysand we did, we moved every four
days we would move every fourdays for like three and a half
four weeks and then we wouldstay somewhere for a week and we

(14:08):
do like all the laundry and allthe grocery shopping it was but
.
And now it was gonna happen fastyes, that was not sustainable,
not with four or three kids um,young kids trying to educate,
trying to still have arelationship.
And I think in the beginning itwas rough.

(14:30):
It was, it was very rough.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
There was Well, covid didn't help.
Then you got stuck in that 42foot trailer with there was no
escape.
Everything was closed and wewere in SoCal.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
So but I think at the same point that was kind of the
turning point of our RV life,and that's kind of when we
figured out how to change ourmarriage.
In the RV too, though it was,we figured out how to
communicate better during thattime.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
So really adjusting to the situation and and you
know I might be stating a lot ofthe obvious when I had my first
baby, I was 23.
And there's so many things youdon't know that you don't know,
so that could be a struggle on arelationship.
Right from the beginning I hada child that didn't sleep

(15:20):
through the night.
I don't think he does eventoday.
Let's just be real.
He's in his 30s.
I don't think he still sleepsthrough the night.
But that becomes challenging ina relationship and it takes
work.
You're getting into an RV nowand you're in a 42 foot fifth
wheel.
We all have heard the storiesabout the backing in situation.

(15:42):
Did you have those like, likebacking?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
you did, we did a little bit.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Oh yeah, I was like her when we pulled into Palm
Springs.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
I almost passed out.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Like she struggled.
I backed up a missile launcherin the military honestly and I
always had Army guys helping me,so she's smarter than army guys
wow, that's big that.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
That right there is what makes a marriage work.
That right there, that helps.
Yeah, that helps because so?
So I just want to go back alittle bit.
Dan has driven huge rvs.
He had driven, you know, a 45foot.
We were in a 40 foot.
He had lots of experience, he'sthe driver, he was a stunt man.

(16:31):
So in the movies for the movieshe was a stunt man, so he knew
how to crash, he knew how toavoid crashes, you know whatever
.
And so the problem there wasbecause he felt like he knew it
all.
Me trying to help him back upwas not in his thinking process.
And so for us, we were at LakeMead when we first moved, when

(16:56):
we first got into the RV, and westayed there for a month, and
because the tanks had beenfilled, the freshwater tank had
been filled with the antifreeze,which it shouldn't have, and it
smelled, and so we were in LakeMead.
There wasn't a dump, so we hadto pack everything up, take it
up to the dump and then back in.
Well, it taught us aboutbacking in, because there was a

(17:18):
guy that we got friendly withand he saw us backing in and the
frustration for anybody who'snot seen it on Facebook or has
had that experience.
Backing in could be one of yourmost difficult marriage ending
challenges, absolutely yes, yes.
So he came to us and he said doyou mind if I give you advice?

(17:39):
I'm like, yes, sure, anythingwe're willing to learn.
And he said to Dan like, yes,sure, anything we're willing to
learn.
And he said to Dan when you'reinside and she's outside, she's
in charge.
And it took Dan a little bit toget used to that idea that I
can see what's back there.
We didn't have big old backupcameras like they do today in
our old RV, and so there wouldbe times frustration would set

(18:04):
in and I would take a breath andsay, okay, timeout, just stop
where you are, I don't care ifwe're blocking the road.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
And I think that was one of the things and if they
don't, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Nope, I think that was one of the things that
helped.
So the fact that he trusted youbeing the one back there was
big.
What did did?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
In the beginning we didn't.
I had no idea.
I mean, I backed up trailersand I've towed and stuff like
that.
But an RV is a little bitdifferent than what I was used
to and he's done all kinds ofthings being in the military and
that was his job was being adriver.
So I mean, I think it took us afew months but finally we, like

(18:45):
, figured out.
You have to figure out your owncommunication style and you can
search on Instagram and YouTubeand all that stuff.
Everybody has their own way ofdoing it.
You have to figure out whatmakes sense to you For us.
I have to tell him whatdirection the back of the
trailer needs to go.
If I need the back of thetrailer to go left or right,

(19:07):
that's up to him to know whatdirection to turn the wheel.
For some people they know whatdirection the wheel needs to go
to make it do whatever andthey'll they'll tell their
spouse or whoever's driving umwhat to do.
That's our method, um, and alsosomething else that we do, and

(19:29):
especially if the backing upprocess is frustrating, because
some sites it's really easy towhip it in, some sites it's not.
Some sites it shouldn't be easy,but it is, and there's other
sites where it's a wide openfield and you still can't get it
right.
There is no rhyme or reason toit.
But something that we do is, ifit's been a rough drive, if

(19:52):
rough day our last move day washorrendous, just nothing could
go right, and so in those daysit's really important for us to
connect.
So we will stop all time outand we will hug, hold each other
and just kind of take some deepbreaths and recenter ourselves,

(20:13):
and I think that that has madesuch a big difference.
Even in those moments whenwe're frustrated and we've done
it 30 times and we are still notwhere we need to be in the site
, stopping, embracing, reset.
He will pull all the way out ofthe site, even if he's only got
to move this much.
Pull all the way out of thesite, even if he's only got to
move this much.
Pull all the way out of thesite, start over and then back
it up, and but it's really thatmoment of reconnecting that I

(20:37):
think it like reset their brain.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I think what it comes down to is that we've trained
ourselves that, that we're oureach other's safe space.
Even we can be angry, we can bewhatever, but we're we're each
other's safe space.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
We try to do that for the kids too so you take a
moment and say I need you tohold me.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yes, I don't know what's going on, and so this if,
if I'm going to say, if peopleget nothing else out of this
conversation, this is so hugeright there, what you said.
When we get angry and we'reyelling at our spouse, it's
usually not at the spouse, sothe closest person.
These are things that I'velearned in relationships and how

(21:18):
to make them better over theyears Seems simple, but it
happens all the time.
So that's stopping andrecentering the one thing I've
learned, especially of this lastyear.
It's been a really stressfulyear for me.
People have listened to thepodcast.
They know what's happened withDan.
My whole life has changed andsome of the things that I've

(21:39):
been looking at is, you know,stress hormones.
I've been under a lot of stress.
How do you deal with that?
On the other side of that,oxytocin is called the love
hormone.
Other side of that, oxytocin iscalled the love hormone and
it's produced when you kiss forsix seconds or hug for 20
seconds.
So it's actually producing thathormone.

(22:00):
And so I have gotten to thepoint where I just feel this
past year felt so out of controlout of my body and a big, tight
hug and it's actually producingthat hormone.
And that's not something youknow.
I'm independent.
I'm strong.
Yes, I'm having a meltdown,I'll be fine, I'll handle it.

(22:21):
I'll cry.
I never would have seen myselfjust allowing myself to just be
in that space of just let's eachother.
That you know it's.
It's something that I thinkit's a great idea.
I think people should try it.
Take a moment before you arebacking up the RV.

(22:41):
Take a moment to to hug to, torecalibrate whatever that looks
like.
So I think that right there isso very important and I've
learned that big time this pastyear.
So you said you had done thingsbefore you ever got in the RV
to work on your relationship.
What are some other tips?

(23:03):
And I saw you did something onsocial media about that how you
just recalibrate your hug andafter you back in, you have a
ritual as well.
What does that look like?

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Well, before we leave we hug each other, but after
After a lot of times that hugcomes after we back in.
If it's a stressful back in orif it's been an extra stressful
drive, he usually will stop andlike come and look at the site
we like, analyze it together andbefore he goes back we'll hug

(23:36):
too, especially if it's been arough drive.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Um, we yeah the last drive so that's connecting,
making sure you're connected inthe stressful situations.
You're both stressed.
I like that you said you knowdifferent things work for
different people.
So for Dan and I, the left andright didn't work.
Dan always had a hard timeconnecting what's my right and

(24:03):
what's my left side.
So I would say passenger sideand driver's side and a lot of
people are like that reallyhelped, but do what works for
you.
You're going to give a lot moregreat tips.
People need to find what worksfor the two of them and some of
these things don't feel and seemlet's just use the word weird,

(24:25):
odd, strange in the beginning.
Right, you're standing outthere backing in an RV and
hugging.
You guys have fun with it, youmake fun of it.
Is that part of you know whathelps you get through these
things?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
humor has to be um, yes, I don't know how to take
life serious, I actually.
So somebody um decided to goout playing in the mud, um, in
low tide, and now I havestitches in the bottom of my
foot, Um, but the nurse.
I was talking to the nurse andshe's like.
She's like you're totally aPeter Pan kid, Right?
And I was like, what do youmean?

(25:00):
She's like.
I was like, oh, I get it.
I was like, yeah, I'm nevergrowing up.
So and that's exactly what itis is I'm going to look at every
situation as lighthearted as Ican, and when I can't do that,
that's where she helps me Lookat those situations lighthearted
.
I mean, it's usually.
It's pretty rare that both ofus are.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Worked up.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, both stuck in a bad situation.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Well and and even then, like, yes, humor may work
for us, but every single personin this world is different and
every relationship is differentbecause we're two different
people.
So it comes down to knowingyour spouse through before we

(25:46):
started traveling.
Was um is really payingattention and honing into them,
their emotions and their needsand serving?
That was that was the sentence,or this is the sentence.
That really changed how Iviewed our marriage was that I
needed to serve my spouse,needed to serve my spouse, and

(26:15):
in turn, he also needs to serveme.
And that doesn't mean that I'mhis servant, but it means that I
am there to help him and fillin the gaps when he needs me to
be.
There's times when we're all inour best and there's times when
we're all at our worst.
There's times when we're all inour best and there's times when
we're all at our worst, andit's being able to put my needs
aside.
When he's in one of those lowmoments, those struggle moments.

(26:37):
Put whatever my needs are asideso that I can help him come
back up to a normal state, tofeeling more like himself,
because we all get into thoselike downward spirals where you
know nothing about the day isgoing right and you've got
anxiety or fear or all of theseother emotions that are like

(27:00):
taking over your body, and eventhough you know that what's
coming out of your mouth or theway that you're acting might not
be rational, you can't stop it.
And so, recognizing those yes,recognizing that moment and
knowing your spouse well enoughto figure out how to pull them
out of that moment so that youcan be on that level state, but

(27:23):
I'd like what you said.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
You serve him and I and I wanted to talk about that
because I think people right noware going wait, whoa what?
Because that's not often a wordthat is used, but it sounds
like you guys have created isthis look, any relationship is
about, you know, certaincompromises, certain agreements

(27:49):
between two people.
Call it a contract, call itagreement, call it, you know
whatever that looks like.
I'm living in a house now.
I've been here over a year witha roommate.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
No different.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, we've had to have certain agreements or
things that you know work anddon't work.
There's communication, there'sme learning how to load the
dishwasher and sometimessomebody's got to let go.
But within a relationship, it'sabout those communications and

(28:23):
say, look, this is what I needwhen I'm in this situation.
You know what his needs are andyou serve him in those
situations and he serves you,and I think it's all in my mind.
It's like an agreement betweentwo people.
It's communication I'm usingwords that people might have an
issue with and we are now goingto invite people.

(28:43):
If they're having issues rightnow with what we just said,
their heads are exploding.
They've got questions, put youknow, put a comment out to you
guys.
You're on social media RoadDrabbers, instagram, facebook,
right?
Tiktok, oh, tiktok too.
Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Do a little bit of all of it.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yes, and people can reach out to me at RV Life
Podcast on Instagram andFacebook.
I don't do the TikTok.
We're going to continue on this.
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So let's talk more about that.
Do you feel like that issomething?
I feel like that's something soimportant within a relationship
to have those agreements like,for instance, you know, dan
edited video.
I wanted to know parts of it.

(30:18):
I'm happy to take six loads oflaundry and sit at the
laundromat for three hours whilehe's editing video.
It's, it's an agreement we had.
I don't get mad because I'mdoing laundry.
This is what we kind of workedout and, like we've already said
, different things for differentpeople.
Can you talk more about that?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
There's so many different things that work for
different people.
Um, I, I gosh, I know that you,I know that you, I yeah, um,
for for me, I, I have to.
Which I think the best thingfor me is is I don't hold onto
anything Like I do for maybelike 24 hours, but after that,

(31:02):
like, process it, let it go,like it's okay that you were mad
about it, but that's it.
And there's, I don't fight.
Well, like I don't bring upthings from the past.
I don't like no, you shouldn't.
Like I don't.
I don't think this is why Idon't do good in politics.
It's okay, Because I don't carewhat happened last month.

(31:28):
I care about what's happeningright now.
So, are we making each other'slife harder or easier right now?
And and that's what it comesdown to in every moment and, and
I do that same thing with thekids, I do that with her, and I
get all mad and I get all workedup and, um, I don't center
myself.
Well, um, but then I usuallycan walk away and I can come
back and I can apologize and Ican be like wow, I was really

(31:49):
acting like a donkey.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Thank you.
Thank you, james, for thatcurse.
You had one job.
Thank you, right.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
It's an understanding that, in humbling yourself that
, yeah, the way that I wasacting was inappropriate, like
it's, it's okay to accept thatabsolutely.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
And for me, I and again, I've learned, I've been
married more than once we don'thave to worry about the numbers.
You, you learn as you go and Ihave done a lot of relationship
type, counseling and reading.
I think there's, like you guysstarted, there's always a way to
make yourself better, to bebetter within that relationship

(32:40):
and then work together in arelationship.
I think conversations andcommunication and what you just
talked about.
Well, I don't want to bring upthe past.
There are sometimesconversations that happen that
are deep conversations orconversations about our being or
conversations about the kids,and for me, one of the things I

(33:01):
like to do is say, ok, we hadthis conversation.
I know for me, I'm going to goaway and think about it and
think about it and think aboutit and reflect on that
conversation, and then I like tocome back and say, okay, this
is what I heard, this is what Iprocessed, because what you hear
is your reality.
It doesn't mean either theperson meant it that way or

(33:22):
that's what they said.
So I do and I again, I thinkthat's a tip that helps when
you're, when you're RVing,you're backing up, you have this
big blow up, you have aconversation about it.
This is what we could do nexttime, and then, days later, hey,
was there anything else that weneed to talk about?
You know, say, after thathappened, especially when it's

(33:44):
something a little moredifficult conversation.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
You definitely need to be able to sit down and have
a conversation and you need torecognize or be able either
recognize as the personlistening or as this person
speaking say, I need to saythese things to get them off my
chest.
I don't mean them in anyharmful or negative way or
anything like that, but this ismy emotion and what I'm feeling

(34:15):
right now.
Not that it's right and notthat I understood what I'm
responding to correctly, but Ineed to be able to let it out.
And as the listener.
You need to be able to say, OK,this is free game, Say what you
want.
And you need to be able to nottake those things and those
moments to heart.
You need to be able to kind ofwade through the words to figure

(34:38):
out what the root of thatproblem is and figure out how
you guys can move past that andaddress it so hopefully it isn't
an issue in the future.
But if you're just listening tothe words themselves, you're
not going to be able to do that.
They can be hurtful and but youneed to understand that your

(35:00):
spouse is not trying to hurt you, but we all have those, and I
feel like in most relationshipsthere's one person who's not as
good at filtering their wordsand there's one person who's
very good at filtering theirwords and the person that is
better at filtering their wordsis the one that's usually a
little more emotional and getshurt by words better, and that's

(35:21):
why they filter them and sorecognizing that that's an
understanding that's not hisstrong suit.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Words hurt people.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
That's not his strong suit, okay, but he doesn't
always mean the words that arecoming out of his mouth, the way
that they are.
He's saying them in a place ofhis own hurt and that he doesn't
have.
You're in this cognitive statewhere you can't filter those
things and say them in a waythat you should be, because

(35:53):
you're worked up, because you'reupset, because you're
frustrated.
And so me, recognizing that andhe does, that I do have my
moments and I will say things,and he recognizes in those
moments that I'm not beingmyself right now, that I
something is wrong, and so hisfirst instinct is to bring me

(36:15):
down, and that's my firstinstinct with him is to let him,
let it out.
And then what is the next stepto?

Speaker 2 (36:21):
what's the real problem?

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, what is the real problem and how can we get
past this over heightenedemotional state so that we can
talk about it?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
The real problem isn't that I left the toilet
paper roll sitting on thecabinet.
No, no, no no, oh, that's,that's what I say.
Put it on that.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
That is no, nope, it goes on one way, not here and
what I'm hearing, what I've cometo realize in relationships is
being able to express that withthe person you're with and and
sometimes that's your kids aswell Like with the kids to say

(37:06):
you know what?
I lost it, I had a bad day, I'msorry, but I think, within a
relationship, to explain this iswhat I need.
Like I'm falling apart rightnow.
I just need you to listen.
Yes, you may be the person I'msaying it to or the person I'm
sort of blaming.
The person I'm saying it to orthe person I'm sort of blaming,
here's what I need.
And for that person to say okay, this isn't about me to have
such a strong relationship thatyou're like this isn't about me

(37:27):
right now.
This is about this person andI'm going to allow them to have
that time to process what it isthey need to process, and I
think that starts before you'relosing it.
And that person then knows thisis a moment for him or her.
I'm just going to be there andlisten.

(37:48):
I'm not going to take this inand that is.
It takes practice.
It's not an easy thing to do,but again, it comes down to
communication.
We always hear communication isso important within a
relationship, but again it comesdown to communication.
We always hear communication isso important within a
relationship.
It's doing it, it's saying.
This is how I get sometimeswhat I need from you.

(38:10):
I probably have lost my mind,cried hysterically more of the
last year than I have in I don'tknow how long, and there are
times that I don't want to talkabout what I need.
I don't want to express thatand, like you said, sometimes I
just need somebody there to justallow the crying and just bring

(38:35):
me back down in your words.
When I am losing my mind.
It doesn't necessarily fix theissue at hand, but it allows the
emotion to come out.
So you can then, like you said,what's the next step?
And I think you know great,great advice.
I want to switch gears just alittle bit, because you live in

(38:58):
35 feet, a 35 foot rv.
Right now, with three kids,people are wondering what about
intimacy?
What about alone time?
What about relationship?
uh, okay, so stabilizers anybodyin an rv, a fifth wheel or

(39:19):
travel trailer?
Yes, and blame it on the wind.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Um, no, uh, the washing machine.
I've heard, yeah, 100.
Uh, it's so our, our kids,understand that that.
Uh, yeah, dad kisses mom, momwill kiss dad.
Um, uh, we hold each other'shands.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
We're like we don't hide our relationship from them.
We're very open andcommunicative with them about
how how we think relationshipsshould be, and and showing
emotion and love for each otheris normal.

(39:56):
That portion is not shown infront of them but gosh, like I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
I hear some people like talk about intimacy and
stuff on like on a rare basisand it might work for other
people, but like it doesn'tmatter that we live in an RV
Like you can't.
Different people have differentneeds and in some it's better
when when people that are arelike-minded link up together.

(40:27):
Uh, it's not good when you haveone person in a relationship
that doesn't like a whole lot ofphysical reaction or stuff and
then you have another personthat doesn't, doesn't, doesn't
or whatever I said doesn't doesit.
Yeah, then then yeah, anotherperson that doesn't doesn't,
doesn't, or whatever I said,doesn't, doesn't, Then, then
yeah it's.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
That's obviously not a match made in heaven, but
People go through differentareas and stages in their life
and you need to recognize that.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
You even go through different stages in the month.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Yes, you do and you need to again.
This comes down to reading yourpartner.
Yes, this is how you're feeling, but also how are they feeling
and how can you guys findsomething in the middle?
When it comes to us havingthose moments.
We have them when it feelsnatural.

(41:13):
We have rules with our kids.
If the door is closed, youknock on the door.
We also have locks on doors,which our bees do not come with.
Locks on the doors, people okay.
So be prepared, um, installlocks, I promise it's worth it.
Um, and and we don't shy awayfrom it just because we're in a

(41:38):
small space with our kids.
It is a part of life, it's apart of relationships and we
have those honest talks with ourkids at a stage that is
necessary for them to understandin the age that they're at.
So the way I might talk to ourseven-year-old about that is
very different than I'll talk toour 13 or 14-year-old about

(41:59):
that, is very different thanI'll talk to our 13 or
14-year-old about that, andthat's kind of how we've
approached those types ofmoments in our life with our
kids.
Anyways, you know we've, we'revery open about sexuality, I
guess, for lack of a better term.
You know bodies are bodies.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
We just don't westernize it.
But that's about it.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Yeah, bodies are bodies and it's okay to accept
them.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Right, and so you've.
It sounds like you prioritizethe relationship, which is going
to help the relationship.
I mean, I know living in ahouse with three young kids
sometimes felt like, oh okay, wedon't have time, we can't
prioritize our relationshipbecause the kids are around and,
to your point, that doesn'twork well within a relationship.

(42:50):
So, prioritizing it, you haveopen communication with the kids
, age appropriate in yourfeeling and again, different
people have different thoughtson this and beliefs.
There's no perfect right orwrong.
A seven-year-old should be toldthis, this and this.
That's not how it works.
You got to get a feel for yourown kid.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yes, and every seven-year-old is different, but
we very much believe thatintimacy is important for a
relationship.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I think living in an RV actually makes it a little
bit easier, because there's nocommute time for work or
anything like that, so like I'malways at home, I don't have to
drive an hour to work anymore,and so like my days are longer,
um and, and I don't have to wakeup the same or go to sleep the
same, so it actually kind ofmakes it a little bit easier.

(43:38):
So that's a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
And you guys have given so much information.
I say this so many times on thepodcast.
We get into these conversations.
For people who are new to thepodcast, I don't have a list of
questions.
I don't give you questionsbefore you got on, we just have
a conversation.
I sort of have an idea of thequestions.
I don't give you questionsbefore you got on, we just have
a conversation.
I sort of have an idea of theflow.
This did not go with the ideaof the flow, which I love.

(44:05):
It goes in its naturalprogression.
Where and what can we give thelistener that's going to help
them to communicate better in anRV?
It's a whole different worldthat a lot of us have had no
previous idea.
And now you're in this smallspace small being a relative

(44:27):
term with someone and if you'renot learning and working on your
relationship, I can't imagine.
I can't even imagine.
And so you've given a lot ofgreat tips.
We still have a lot, some morethings I want to cover.
I do want to give people someupdates, which I don't usually
do at this point in the podcast,but I change things up at

(44:51):
random times.
That's just what I like to do.
There's a lot coming up.
This episode is recorded.
It is the end of May, it'll goout in June and so people are
out there traveling alreadythinking about some activities
and events that are coming up.
So I want to talk first aboutAmerica's largest RV show in
Hershey, pa, which is September10th to the 14th.

(45:15):
I'll be there, you guys will bethere.
I'll have you talk on that injust a minute.
Rv Life is doing their fourth.
This is the fourth year.
They're doing their annual RVLife Hershey RV Life after party
.
This sells out by August.
It is sold out.
I was at the event last year inSeptember.

(45:35):
I went to the RV show and had anumber of people begging for
tickets and we were sold out.
So as soon as that goes live, Iwill announce it on the podcast
.
It'll be on my social media RVLife Podcast at Instagram and
Facebook.
You want to get your ticketsimmediately.
This year is going to be betterthan the years past.

(45:56):
We have new incredible sponsors.
Rv TV is one of the sponsors sofar, and I'll be talking about
the sponsors as we continue.
Now the RV event.
You've been to the.
You were at the after partylast year, so you guys will be
there this year.
What did?
you think of the event.
Do you recommend it?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
We had a blast.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
It was a lot of fun.
Um, it's fun.
Good food.
I was impressed with the food,um, and it was just a great way
to connect and kind of unwind.
Um, after the, after the show?
I don't think.
So I'll say hershey was ourlast year, was our first RV show

(46:38):
ever and we were not preparedfor how overwhelmed we were
going to feel.
So being able to go to thatafter party afterwards was it
was almost like a breath offresh air, just kind of
connecting with people andtalking, and I just felt relaxed
and natural instead of like, ohmy gosh, I got to see the next.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
We met some cool people too.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Right and this year one of the things we're changing
because the feedback we got twoyears in a row we had amazing
music groups.
They were awesome.
Some of the feedback that wereceived was that people wanted
more of a chance to connect withcommunity.
Rv Life's all about community,let's get real and people wanted

(47:21):
that chance to mingle and talka little more.
So we have changed things.
We're doing away with the music.
There will be background music,but we are changing things up
Again.
Amazing sponsors, great prizes,and I will post on social media
as soon as those tickets golive.
Rv tv for anybody that hasn'theard of it you want to go to rv

(47:44):
tvcom.
They are doing america's um gottalent, rv's got talent I'm
sorry, rv's got talent.
They are giving away prizes ifyou well, you guys can do a
comedian kind of thing no, I'mnot that good listen, there's
five thousand dollars involvedfor the winner.

(48:04):
You might want to reconsider,james right that you've got some
funny jokes, babe.
Yeah, you better the two of youtogether she thinks that I'm
funny.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
That's how it works yes, there you go.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
So I'm going to post that on social or my social
media.
Anybody that has talent thinksthey have talent.
It doesn't matter, I don't careif you play with a yo-yo, it
doesn't matter, it's just forfun.
So there will be signups forthat and all the information for
that in the show notes onsocial media, because you could

(48:40):
win five thousand dollars.
That's yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
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I saw a lot of communicating,nonverbal communication, between
the two of you.
I see some faces.

(50:05):
James could just get on and dothe faces, and that would you
need to submit your talent forsure.
Just make faces.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
No rules, though right, there's no rules.
You could like anywhere,anything, anything, anywhere.
Yeah, there's no rules, thoughright, there's no rules.
You could like anywhere,anything, anything anywhere.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Yeah, there's no rules on this one, so you go
first.
Okay, james, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
I said Mars, no, but realistically, I, so I I like to
leave my paranoia out on thetable.
I like to stay in the UnitedStates, so I want to go to
Alaska.
I believe, United States Okay.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
So Alaska fly in baby , rent an RV.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yes, and that's something we're trying to figure
out how to plan, but mine mineis a toss up between Iceland and
Thailand.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
She's still trying to convince me to travel out of
the country.
Okay, I'm with her on that one.
I'll just go with Patty, youcan speak, and.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Thailand.
She's still trying to convinceme to travel out of the country.
Okay, I'm with her on that one.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
I'll just go with Patty.
You can speak here with thekids, kelly, no, take the kids.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
No, no, no, it's too long a flight.
Kelly and I will go, we'llreport back.
There are a lot of places I'vebeen to Thailand and places
outside the country, to Paris.
Yes, you've got to do it.
You've got to put it on yourbucket list.
Yeah, I do.
I love what you guys had to say.
You have to definitely do RV,rv TVs, rvers got talent.

(51:43):
I can't, it's a mouthful.
You definitely have to do it.
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What do you guys like bestabout it?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
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uh I use trip wizard like crazyit is definitely peace of mind.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
When we first set out , we were using google.
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your rv.
Google doesn't know heights andkingpins and all the other
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Speaker 1 (54:09):
Let's take a minute to talk about that because I am
still seeing people on Facebookand it's a peppy of a month,
because I know how dangerous itis People on Facebook that are
saying, oh, I use Google Maps,but I also use Waze, or I use
Apple Maps.
And then there are people whowill say do you have a free GPS
system?

(54:29):
And I want to say, do you havesomething bigger than a minivan?
Because it's like you saidheight, weight, length, the
length makes a difference.
There are roads you can't go onand guess what, whether or not
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(54:53):
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Speaker 3 (55:08):
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we, we did it, we traveled whatfor like three months or
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Speaker 2 (55:17):
We didn't, we didn't know we got turned around at a
bridge and we got turned aroundat a spot that I could not drive
down the road because I was toolong yeah, and and when you're
in California there's not verygood places to turn around once
you get there.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
So for us it was.
For me.
I have a lot of anxiety aboutthe trailer driving places and,
honestly, a lot of it probablycomes from those first three
months on the road and thosecouple roads that we shouldn't
have gone down, but we didn'tknow until it was too late.
So it's been a huge peace ofmind.

(55:53):
It's not that much, and it, andthen the planning part, makes
it so easy to figure out whereyou're going.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
You can even put safely, you can even put things
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stop, which we used it to tokeep track of different yes, of
like different things that wewant to do, um and uh, and then
also being able to look at thecampground before you get there

(56:24):
and check out, like what thewi-fi looks like, what or how
about that one where we couldn'tgo over the railroad tracks
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never known that coming anyother way, except we found it on
our relay?

Speaker 3 (56:40):
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And you said there's a discountcode, so that makes it even
easier, right, right?

Speaker 1 (56:50):
And that's for new people, for the first year
there's the discount.
But we went and we've used RVLife, the trip planning and then
the RV Safe GPS and thecampground reviews, because I
want reviews by other RVers.
I don't want people to be ableto come, like campgrounds, to be
able to get on there and putsome review in.

(57:10):
These are all authentic and theone time we were going to we
were in Bonacqua, tennessee Mostpeople don't even know where.
It is Beautiful, amazing time.
And we we were being navigatedby Trip Wizard and I don't know
what happened.
But we decided we thought wewere really close and we said to

(57:32):
the guy OK, we're here, likewhere do we go now?
And I think the RV Life, theTripWizard, had taken us
somewhere else, but the ownerhad given us some direction.
So we said, ok, we're at thisbridge.
We didn't think we could goover.
And he's like, oh yeah, peopledo it all the time.

(57:53):
There's a campground nearby.
So we go over the bridge and weget there and we're talking to
him.
We're like, wow, that bridgewas really scary.
And he was wait, what bridgedid you go over?
Wrong bridge, we should nothave gone over.
You do not want to listen, evensomebody who lives in the area.

(58:14):
He had never done and had an rv.
He was like he thought we weresomewhere else.
Communication is everythingright.
And he said no, that bridge youshouldn't have gone over.
Great, we already did so.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
well, there's so many things that that you just
before you have to move your rthe way that we do.
There's just things you don'tthink about.
I never thought about how bigbridges are, or the kingpin, the
axle length on a road becausethey're too windy for you.
Those just aren't things wethink about.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
As a normal, regular driver.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Yeah, and you just don't have to worry about that
with RV life.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Right and you hear story after story of people.
First of all, you get stuck andyou're blocking traffic and the
police have to come out.
They could charge you for thatbecause you may not be able to
back up.
A lot of times people toldstories of they couldn't back up
.
If you're in a Class A tow in acar, you got to take the car
off.
You can't back up, there's nobackup.

(59:10):
So I think we're stressing thisbecause it's you know this can
make or break the RV life periodEnd of marriage, end the whole
thing.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
The bridge is worse than the backup.
Don't hit the bridge, you cansurvive the backup.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Right, right, don't be like, oh, I think I'll make
it.
Right, right, don't be like, oh, I think I'll make it and then
not, no, you can make it.
No, you can make it, and withTrip Wizard, I do feel confident
with it.
Thank you for sharing that.
Those people who are againlooking for campground reviews
they want to find out more aboutThousand Trails, hershey.

(59:45):
You are going to want to bookthat sooner than later If that
is a place you want to stay.
All the information is in theshow notes for this.
I want to one more time talkabout where people can reach out
to you and we all want toencourage people Ask questions.
There is I was a teacher for 20years.
There is really no stupidquestion and I know you guys,

(01:00:08):
any questions you get, you'll beanswering personally.
Any questions I get, if it'sfor you guys, I'll share with
you.
But ask the questions.
Just tell people again how toreach out to you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
So you can find us on your favorite social media
platform as Road Ravers.
It's like you're driving on aroad in our last name platform
as road ravers.
It's like you're driving on aroad and our last name and, uh,
we also have a website, which isjust wwwroadraberscom.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Um.
Are we doing the meet and greetat Hershey?

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
I don't know yet.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Okay, we might do it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Okay.
So if you're doing a meet andgreet, I'll make sure that we
put that in our social media sopeople know that.
Something else that happens inHershey people can meet people.
I will be there the whole time.
I'm not going to do a meet andgreet.
I'll be doing some podcastingwhile I'm walking around, and
that's a good point too.

(01:01:01):
If people see you, you wantthem to come up and talk to you.
I'll give you a sticker too,and a sticker.
I have stickers too.
We got to.
I think I have your sticker.
I think we've exchangedstickers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
I got, new I got new stickers.
So I don't think we have yournew one.
I want to do a special one forHershey, so I need to start
designing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
That's a great idea.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I want to do a out.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
So if you have a cool event, okay, and then for
people do you have you seen therivet um supply company boards?
Okay, we will have to put thatin the show notes as well.
It is a board, a beautifulplace to put your stickers, and
they'll design the stickers foryou.
So if you have an idea, they'llmake them for you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
She makes awesome stickers In the show notes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
They are awesome.
They will be in Hershey as well, so people are looking for a
board to put their stickers on.
It's a great place to do it.
We've covered so much.
Yes, come up to us, say hi, askyour questions.
We're really looking forward tohelping people.
You know, do this RV life alittle better, whatever we can

(01:02:10):
do to help.
I want to thank both of you somuch for being on the podcast.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Thank you.
Yeah, definitely ask usquestions, because I've blown up
the.
I've definitely blown up an RV,so I'll tell you how to not do
it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yes, yes, let's learn from other people's mistakes.
Sounds great.
Thank you, guys, and I want tothank my listeners and remind
you life is a journey.
Live each day to the fullest,without regrets.
I'm Patti Hunt and you've beenlistening to the RV Life Podcast
.
Bye.