Hilarious RV Misadventures and Community Wisdom: Recorded LIVE at the United Rally

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the RV Shenanigans podcast.
My name is Ryan and, along withmy wife, lauren, we are Millers
in Motion from YouTube.
This podcast has been so muchfun to record and yet again, we
got to do another one of ourfavorite slash bucket list
things and that is talk with abunch of channels.
So this is a live recording ofthe second YouTube panel from
the 2025 United Rally.

(00:22):
I hosted both of these panels.
Now this panel I'm actually on,so you get some fun stories
about us in this one.
But on this panel with us wasRV Blogger our good friends Mike
and Susan, the Bimble Effectseason, two winners of RV
Unplugged Millers in Motion.
You may know them no Sticks, noBricks, our Road Less Traveled.

(00:43):
Brazen Brits, and switch it upagain.
Please enjoy this panel fromthe United Rally.
All right, welcome to thesecond YouTuber panel.
It's going to be similar toyesterday, with a little bit of

(01:04):
some slight different topics.
This is a Q&A, so if you guyshave questions, I actually have
the wireless mic in my hand.
So if you have a question, justraise your hand.
It can be during while they'retalking and I'll come over to
you, but we want this to be asinteractive as possible.
And as far as questions go,they will literally answer
anything if I tell them to rightEspecially, and as far as

(01:25):
questions go, they willliterally answer anything if I
tell them to right Especially,jack.
Jack's an open book.
I know that's why he's an openbook.
You can't really hear him.
We're going to have to turn themic up for him.
So, with that being said, I'mgoing to do the icebreaker.
So if you have a question, justraise your hand.
When we get to the second halfof this, it's straight all you
guys.
So be thinking of yourquestions.
Okay.
So I have a very randomquestion about kind of RV things

(01:48):
that you guys have experiencedand maybe had to fix on your
rigs.
What's the weirdest or oddesttool you've had to use to fix
something on your RV?
And I say that it doesn't haveto be an actual.
This is a wrench.
Sticks can be tools.
Come on, there's got to besomething.

(02:08):
Yeah, break the ice, todd.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Bueller, bueller if you get that.
That's a great movie.
They all are old enough.
Yeah, yeah, that's nice.
Ferris Bueller's Day Off, yes,so odd thing, we get no, no Stop
with single and movie quotes,soundtracks, movie soundtracks

(02:39):
for single.
Okay, we digress Back to thequestion.
Back to the question.
When we first got this RV wedidn't know how to hook up to it
, this new one.
And we hooked up and we starteddown the road for the first day
and when I got to where we weresupposed to, we needed to
unhook and I I went to gothere's this like latch, you

(03:01):
know, you gotta pull.
Well, there's this much roomand I put my little arms in
there and I had like t-rex armsto try to reach and I couldn't
reach it.
And then I couldn't pull it andI go, I don't know how to
unhook.
And she's like, well, what arewe gonna do?
And so I ended up odd tool,when we lost our tire going down
the highway.

(03:21):
I ended up getting one of thoselong, not breaker bars.
But yeah, what is the tensionthing?
What is it?
Torque wrench?
Thank you, the torque wrenchthing.
And I was like, yes, so Ibusted that out, found the
longest socket I could to reachin and then I used that to
unhitch from the RV, so thatbecame our hitch puller for a

(03:45):
while.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
It's a really expensive little grabber.
Thing.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, yeah for a grabber thing.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Could have gotten one on Amazon for like five bucks.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
What I use now is a trucker puller thing Bob.
Trucker puller thing Bob.
Yeah, that's right, you canfind it on Amazon.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Just put a trucker puller thing.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah just put trucker , puller thing thing on, just
put trucker puller thing.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Anybody else got an odd tool, a hair dryer.
So you left your hose out whenit froze, didn't you?

Speaker 6 (04:19):
No, you would think that how many of y'all
religiously sweep the inside ofyour rig before you leave?
Who can tell me why you sweepthat rig before you pull your
slides in?
It will tear your floor Twice.
So if you're interested in howto fix a tear in a vinyl floor,

(04:44):
I am now an expert at it.
We had to use a hair dryer toheat up the linoleum enough to
get it pliable so that I couldget it glued back down to the
floor.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Okay, I could have used you in our other rig.

Speaker 6 (04:58):
All you need is wax paper, a weight, a hair dryer
and wood glue.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
So after this there's going to be Clay's Fixing Vinyl
Floor Seminar over on thecorner there.
Anybody else got one?

Speaker 8 (05:12):
I do.
Some of you might know, but forthose that don't, I'm a retired
mechanic and so when weupgraded to lithium batteries,
naturally I would use zip tiesto secure these batteries to the
RV, because the holders thatwere on the old batteries
weren't going to work with thenew batteries.
So my buddy John, over herewith the Cottywample Travels.
There he is right in front ofus, we use zip ties, and then I

(05:33):
did a video on it and in thevideo, of course, I said this is
a temporary solution, for nowwe're going to just secure them
with zip ties, but to be honest,they're going to be here for
the remainder of the timethey're in the RV.
So they work.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Zip ties are our best friend, mike.

Speaker 9 (05:49):
I have two unique tools that we use.
We have two RVs.
One of them we leave at homeall the time and our kids
primarily use that RV, so itsits in our driveway most of the
year and then they take it outa few weeks a year.
But since it sits there, we hada bee's nest in our vent pipe.
So when the kids would go todrain the black water tank, it

(06:11):
was not draining all the waybecause, you know, the thumb
wasn't lifted off the straw, asthey say, and so the tank
wouldn't drain.
So I ended up using a gardenhose, shoving it down through
the vent pipe on the roof andcleared all of that bees nest
out of there.
That was a whole lot of fun.
So that's one thing.

(06:31):
So if you do leave your rv instorage quite a bit, that is one
thing that could happen to you.
So I thought I'd bring that up.
The other thing that happenedis we had a stink bug nest in uh
, the freshwater tank um ventvalve for that.
So when the kids would try toget a garden hose to fill the
water tank, the water was comingback out where you would put

(06:51):
your garden hose in, because thelittle vent pipe was filled
with a stink bug nest, so weused a coat hanger to clean that
thing out and then everythingworked correctly.
But if your rig's in storagequite a bit, those might be a
couple things that happen to you.

Speaker 10 (07:07):
So I'm gonna change, or I was just gonna say for us
if anything goes wrong, jackjust tells me to go get the duct
tape.
That's it, yeah or towels ortowels.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
That happens a lot too, you know so I'm gonna
change the question just alittle bit for one of our
panelists, assuming he can get amic.
So you guys are in the processof building something.
What's the weirdest tool you'vehad to use so far to actually
construct something in your newRV or new van or new, whatever
we're calling it now Britmobile.

Speaker 7 (07:34):
Can I just say if anyone says to you hey, can you
go to the tiki bar tonight, comeand have a drink, can you just
politely decline and go to bedearly?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I Can you just politely decline and go to bed
early.
I will say I'm appreciativebecause now this is happening,
which is just magic foreverybody else.
I can second that Apparently, Ihad a great time.

Speaker 12 (07:54):
I can second that with this voice.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yes, that's his real voice at the moment.

Speaker 12 (07:58):
The karaoke at the Tiki Bar is dangerous.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Actually, I think it's just an exercise in
self-control.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Where are the keys?
By the way, are you in here,mom?
Thank you for ruining half ofmy panel.

Speaker 7 (08:13):
I don't do exercise or self-control.
The weirdest tool, Natalie,what do you think?
A fishing?

Speaker 5 (08:21):
magnet.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
We do have a fishing magnet.
Does anyone know what a fishingmagnet is?
Yes, I wanted my one.
They're great, they're good fun,especially when you're a.
It's basically a really strongmagnet on a rope, and so when we
go kayaking we obviously livein Crystal River, we have a home
base there, so we kayak a lotyou can find all kinds of things
Phones, sunglasses and you justdrag the fishing magnet behind
and then and then after a fewminutes you pull it up and you

(08:47):
get oh sorry, I thought youmeant how does it?

Speaker 10 (08:52):
work.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
Yeah, that got so yeah, we did use that to run
some wires, which was not asgood as its men to be.
Like, if you're in a house withdrywall you can use the magnet
to run the wires down, but downthe back of the drywall.
But it doesn't work so well ona metal transit van, but we
tried it.
There was problems but itworked.
We made it work.

(09:13):
But I think that's probably theweirdest thing.
Apart from that, things likeeveryone else has said, like zip
ties, duct tape, hammers,hammer's a weird tool speaker
wire it sounds like we could bearrested with all of it.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Lawrence, is there a bag of lime in the back of your
van?
Just asking.

Speaker 8 (09:33):
And all that's just to control the stink bug
population.

Speaker 7 (09:37):
Yeah, I think the only other thing is speaker wire
.
Don't ever underestimatespeaker wire.
You can use that for so manythings Electrical stuff, tying
stuff up.

Speaker 9 (09:49):
Hello, I'm Chris Hansen.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Okay, I'll let you off the hook with tying Natalie
up.

Speaker 7 (09:58):
Thanks, she just said stop.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Is that?

Speaker 7 (10:03):
the.
It's not like avocado.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
That's the safe word.
Just stop Sorry.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
It's normally get off me.
All right, I'm in trouble now.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Line.
There's a line.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
There's never a line, todd, I'm so happy I'm
recording this, okay, so on thatsame topic, and you don't have
to say the actual dollar amountIn fact I would encourage you
not to but what's the mostexpensive repair?
Not buying in, you don't countfor the minute, unless it's on
the old rig.
Then you count again, butwhat's the most expensive repair

(10:40):
you've had to do?
But I'm going to have a caveatSelf-inflicted Marriage
counseling.
You know you got a goodquestion, whole crowd goes ABS
sensors.

Speaker 9 (10:55):
Thousand dollars driving over the Rocky Mountains
, laying on the brakes too much.
I learned how to drive on thattrip, but that was a thousand
dollar.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Learning Downshifting's a thing yeah.

Speaker 14 (11:06):
All right, I have ours.
You better run and hide.
All right, when our Solitudewas for sale, we had moved it to
a different location because wealready had our Valor.
And when we were moving itthere were, let's say, obstacles
in the way and it was verytight, and this was a 42-foot
rig.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
It was a tree there, a 42 foot rig.

Speaker 14 (11:24):
It was a tree.
There's your hint.
It was a tree.
There were lots of trees, so myjob was to see the branches up
top, so we didn't rip off thesolar panels and all those
things, right.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
So I'm watching all don't look at me like that I'm
watching all the branches up top.

Speaker 14 (11:38):
We didn't see the one that went out and we wrapped
around it.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Hang on, hang on, hang on, we, yeah, we.
It was my blind side.

Speaker 14 (11:46):
I couldn't, neither of us, neither of us and a tree
branch right through thefiberglass in the side of the
solitude while it's for sale.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
That was an expensive fiberglass repair that was an
expensive.

Speaker 14 (11:59):
We did it right.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
We have an amazing place in Texas if you need it
now, by the way, if you needfiberglass repair.
Yeah, that one was rough, itwas Todd.
I feel like you've donesomething, especially the old
rig.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
No, in four years we just did our biggest damage
we've ever done Three days ago.
I call it an attack, aspiritual attack, because it
always happens in a huddle.
Moving from the front to backhere which is what An eighth of
a mile I backed up because therewas a ditch like this and I
thought I backed up enough totake the ditch at an angle.

(12:40):
If you look at the back of thetruck, the truck went down the
ditch and up.
I pushed the LED wall into therig, busted one of the top
panels, which is about $1,800 apanel.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Is that why there's a little green line up there?

Speaker 4 (12:53):
that was driving me nuts when we were over there Now
there's a big back of the backof the thing on the truck.
Then we proceeded to bottom outon the back side, rip the back
door open, break the thing andscratch all the paint on the
bottom.
So I'd say it's five to eightgrand somewhere in there.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Please buy Switch it Up merch.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
We are singing tonight.
Baby, I am going to sing withthe loudest voice, but yeah,
that was a challenge that onehurt a little.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
The tiki bar is after .

Speaker 8 (13:34):
So what do you have one?
I do so.
A couple years ago this is whenwe had the F-450 and the
Momentum we were at ChesapeakeBay, thousand Trails in Virginia
and we got the Momentum knowMomentum parked.
I parked the truck next to itand we also had a Subaru
Crosstrek at the time that weused to tool around.
So the truck just sat.
So I get out of the truck, parkit.

(13:54):
Look at a pole.
I said remember that pole intwo weeks when we leave.
Oh boy, two weeks goes by.
Get in the truck, pull out,forget about the pole, smash the
entire door in, hit the pole.
And it would have been anexpensive fix.
But I just got on Amazon andordered a $7 Wile E Coyote
sticker and I just stuck it onthe door.

(14:15):
It was done.
That's a good one.
I'm going to use that one onthe back of the truck.
Funny story about the Wile ECoyote sticker I actually got.
I was in Arizona and pulledinto a gas station and all of a
sudden this sheriff comeswhipping in next to me with his

(14:35):
lights on.
I'm like, oh crap, what did Ido?
I did something wrong.
He pulls up, gets out of hiscar, comes over to me goes.
I just want to check out yourWile E.

Speaker 13 (14:45):
Coyote sticker.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Alright Lawrence, do you want to tell the
transmission story now, BecauseI figured that's where you're
going.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
No, that wasn't self-inflicted.

Speaker 12 (14:59):
I've seen you drive man.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
It could have been so the van that we've been staying
in.
We took it in yesterday morning, I can't remember.
I don't know what happenedafter last night, brian.
So we had to be there earlybecause our friend Chad and
Sabrina I don't think they'rehere, I think they're working
but Sabrina said I can take youto the shop and bring you back.

(15:20):
It's got to be early before Istart work.
I'm not a morning person, so weget up about six o'clock, we
get all the van ready, I, youknow.
We get all of our stuff ready,packed up, and I start the
engine and I say to natalieright, are we good to go?
Luckily I remembered I hadn'teven unplugged from the pedestal
, I just walked from the bed tothe front of the van and at the

(15:42):
last second I had it in gear andI remembered.
So that could have been verydangerous.
But yeah, that's uh.
The transmission story is stillgoing on.
We're waiting for a phone call.
But uh, yeah, that's uh.
Super cheap, right, super cheap, super cheap.

Speaker 12 (15:58):
So yeah, I don't think my voice will do it, so
shel Shelby's going to try.

Speaker 10 (16:02):
I'll try.
One of our most expensivethings is every single time my
husband tries to get out of ourdriveway.
I knew it.

Speaker 12 (16:08):
I knew it, I knew it he runs into the lake.
No stop, stop.
So a lot of these stories areon the road right.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, we're requesting, shelby.
We can't take your voice, man.

Speaker 10 (16:25):
A lot of these happen shelby here you go on the
road.
So, like I said, every time wetry to get off our property,
whether it was the 80 acres orthe new which is right next door
he has a problem getting offthe property.
We don't even get.
So jack, I've muted you, mike,not a chance I know we've tried
to come out of our propertycurrently and he's ripped off
the whole sewage hose, um youknow, and the leg we almost

(16:47):
tipped over and in our case, weused an american flag sticker to
cover ours up instead ofrepairing one part of it too.

Speaker 12 (16:55):
So, so, that happened because because I I
tried to use a, a tractor topull it.

Speaker 10 (17:03):
Oh, he just can't take it that he needs driving
lessons, so if anybody here canteach my husband how to drive
Turn wide, turn wide.

Speaker 12 (17:14):
Yeah, so we can't even get off our own property.
Self-inflicted Me again.
We had sewage hanging downunderneath.
I don't drive, he does.
The hydraulic leg is ripped offMaybe I should drive and I'm
halfway in the street off ourproperty and it's all dangling.
I go gosh now what the helljust happened.
It was terrible.
So this all happens on the road, but not for us, right in our
driveway.

Speaker 10 (17:33):
Yep right in our driveway.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
So that brings up a point what's the most awkward
place?
You've had a problem that'scaused you to actually stop
physically traveling, sodriveway seems to be one.

Speaker 10 (17:44):
On our own property.
That's awkward.
I got a driveway one.

Speaker 8 (17:49):
so before the momentum we had a 40 foot raptor
toy hauler and a ram, dually,and I had switched to the 450
platinum, which was fancycompared to my ram.
It had electronic tailgate.
You know, you push the buttonand the tailgate drops down.
Super fancy, unless you put thekeys in your hoodie pocket and

(18:09):
then put your seatbelt over thetop and while I'm towing my new,
driving my new truck, towing myold camper down and I take the
curve on our driveway, I musthave hit that button and the
tailgate went Boop, oh gosh.
So guess what happened.
When I take the turn, I hearcrunch.
I look back and both doors arejust smashed in.

(18:33):
And we're living in Alaska atthe time and I can't get the
doors in Alaska.
So I order the doors and theycost a fraction of what it cost
to ship them up to Alaska.
It was an expensive fix.

Speaker 14 (18:48):
Anybody else, ours was probably on the road to
Florida when we took a lug nutoff of a semi into our front cap
, and so we had to pull over andtry to fix it.
But the other part is that wewere outrunning a storm system

(19:10):
the same storm that dumpedtornadoes throughout the whole
area and so we were trying tobeat the rain, and now we have a
hole in the front cap.
It looked like a .50 caliberwent through our front cap.
It was as big as my hand and Ihave a picture of that one, but
yeah, so we had to fill it at arest stop on the phone with
alliance trying to figure outwhat to do, because we can see
the clouds like moving in.

(19:31):
It is about to rain and if wedon't put something in it it
would have ruined it essentially, I just wanted to know if I
squeeze a full tube of sealantin this thing yeah is it going
to do something that causes themto not be able to repair?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
it is my actual concern.
At that point, what are yougoing to do?
Put tape over it?

Speaker 8 (19:47):
I would recommend a Wile E Coyote sticker.
Are those waterproof we?

Speaker 1 (19:53):
didn't have one, but we'll order them to have them on
hand and that was terrifying,by the way, because I say that
it sounded like a 12 gaugeshotgun went off above our head
about 4 feet.
And it's like that 12-gaugeshotgun went off above our head
about four feet and it's likethat slow-mo thing.
Anybody ever hit one of thosereally big bugs and you can see
them from like a quarter mileaway and it splats.
Except this I watched it sheeroff of a truck and bounce right

(20:15):
in front and hit, and I'm justthankful it didn't come through
our windshield, becauseotherwise one of us wouldn't be
here.
Probably both of us have hit mebecause.
So, yeah, that one was not fun,by the way, it was so bad they
had to completely replace thefront cap.
It was spiderwebs, so bad.

(20:35):
All right, anybody else now thatmy stories are getting out
there.
So I will say I am coming tosomebody soon and if you don't
have a question, you're going tocome up with one on the spot.
So if you have a question,raise your hand, I'm going to
come, wander by.
It's going to be you.
So what's the most awkwardthing that you've had to film
for YouTube?
Whether it made a video or not,I don't care, but you've

(20:57):
actually filmed it.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
That happened around, maybe an incident in your RV.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
And I don't know why I'm staring right at Todd, but I
just figured there's something.
I think the most traumaticthing and you could watch the
videos when we lost the tire.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Yeah, sheila filmed it because she wanted to capture
the moment, but she also filmedher breaking point, like it was
at that point.
It was like she, we had had somany things go wrong up to that
point and now we've been on theroad for like three years and it
just you could see.
So she I commend her forpicking and being transparent in

(21:35):
that moment when I was tryingto be uplifting and we're going
to get through this and stuff,but not to be a Debbie Downer
but that was like a breakingpoint.
A lot of times we have youtubechannels and we sometimes elect
to share that and that was thatwas our moment yeah you're not
gonna cry now, are you?

Speaker 5 (21:55):
I mean you're there's many times that I will pull the
camera out and todd will justlook at me and be like not now,
right, does anybody else get the?
Not now, like okay, and likeokay.
But then, looking back inhindsight, he's like oh, that,
probably we could have, thatprobably would have helped
somebody else out, right?
So there's moments where youtry to balance out our personal

(22:17):
sanity and yet being able tohelp somebody else and but that
tire moment I was like, okay, wewere in the middle of working,
trying to figure out how we weregoing to build that and so just
that, at compounded stress andpressure on, you know the normal
YouTube life as itself.
Then your wheel just goesrolling down the road.
Thank goodness we were innowhere, north Dakota, because

(22:40):
nobody was on the road, so itwas good.
But that was a tough one,because nobody was on the road,
so it was good, but that was atough one.

Speaker 10 (22:46):
Well, for us, it was our first video that we put out
, when we had just gotten the RV.
It was our first trip.
It was something I've wanted mywhole entire life.
And Jack didn't make the cornerand we almost lost it and it
was going to fall on ourproperty into the creek and it
was so emotional for me.
I was just so distraught and onthe video I was like praying to

(23:09):
jesus, god, everybody.
I was praying to everybody.
There's a jesus category.
Yeah, as a counter, how manytimes I said please god, please
god, please god and it.
Well, we got a lot of commentstoo.
People like I know you guys getthis back too.
But we got a lot of badcomments about me saying praying
to god too.
But that's a whole nother story.
But that was really traumaticand I started calling everybody

(23:30):
in the world.
Where we live in Tennessee andwe are so blessed with our
neighbors Our salesman that soldus the RV came to help, our
neighbors with tractors came tohelp.
Everybody came and pulledtogether in our community and
I'm going to start cryingthinking about it.
But that was really reallytough.
But with all the help from allof our friends in the community,
we were able to get it out filmit.

Speaker 12 (23:50):
Okay, I'm gonna try.
So shelby filmed this, but wedid not have a channel.
No, we did.
We didn't do this for a channel, she was just filming it for us
to show our kids.
We didn't turn that into avideo for a year, right, more
than that Our first video ever.
So that's our first video andfor our first video, I'm gonna
let you know people, like if youdid something wrong.

(24:11):
We got like 150,000 views onour first video because I messed
up so bad and it was leaninginto the creek and then the rain
came and Shelby's filming thewhole thing and I'm on a
50-year-old tractor trying topull the thing out and that was
dumb.
So, yeah, that's our filmingstory.
That we didn't even know wasgoing to be a video.
So it worked out okay.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
It worked out great because that's how I became a
subscriber to their channel.
I found that video and I liketo say I saw you guys when you
very first started.
I followed your whole journey.
So not Sheila so much, but shethen caught up to me when she
started watching.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
I'm just thankful I have new friends now.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
So, that's how you got us.

Speaker 8 (24:55):
Anybody else got one Of course, this just actually
happened a couple months ago.
So now we're in our new RV, ourFleetwood, our motorhome, and
we're towing the Jeep behind us,and then on the Jeep is our
bike rack for the e-bikes and wejust got the RV.

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So the dogs they're kind ofnervous wrecks right now.
They haven't quite figured outthis whole motor thing or
motorhome thing.
And so our yellow lab axlewe're kind of experimenting with
some calming medication for himto help him on travel days.
So we're going down the road,we're on I-1010 and there's
trucker pulls up next to us andhe keeps doing.

(25:37):
He's doing this like he's doinga throttle and we're trying.
I'm like what is this guy?
doing?
What's he trying to tell mehe's throttling.
And then it dawns on me bike.
He's doing something with thebike.
I'm like uh-oh, what's going onwith the bike?
So we pull over into a loves.
I get out and jennifer's bikeis on the road and half the

(25:57):
handlebar is gone.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Yeah, that happened to us too.
It's that same thing.

Speaker 8 (26:02):
So I walk out of the RV with the camera because I'm
like, well, this guy is tellingme something, let's see what the
surprise is, right.
So I walk out with the cameraand Jennifer is walking towards
me and I was like did you seeyour bike?
And she goes did you see thedog shit all over the couch?
What I didn't know.

(26:27):
We're not using that calmingmedicine anymore for Axel.
And then we gave away thee-bikes.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Just remember that if you look to buy their used RV
in the future.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Anybody else got one.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Oh, you got a new one .
Oh, send a new one.
Oh, it had a blanket.

Speaker 6 (26:53):
It used to have a white couch.
It's gray now.
It used to have a white couch.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
It's gray now, anybody else?

Speaker 6 (27:01):
I've got a really good one.
It makes us kind of seem stupid.
How many of y'all have seenthat movie where there's an
18-wheeler going down a highwayand the driver of it kidnaps the
wife?
It's got Kurt Russell in it.
Y'all seen that?
Marie and I had watched thatmovie, I guess, a couple weeks

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before we took off and we wereheaded north on I-65.
We were almost into Tennesseeand I had been jockeying with
this 18-wheeler for 20 miles.
Every time I would go aroundhim and put some distance
between us, he would catch rightback up to us and he would pass
me.
So I figured, you know, we'vegot the ram, I'll just stand on

(27:46):
it a little bit.
I hammered down on it, got awayfrom him.
Maria's over here.
You know what's the guy'sproblem?
Did you piss him off?
Did you cut him off?
I, maria, is over here.
What's the guy's problem?
Did you piss him off?
Did you cut him off?
I'm like I didn't do anythingto him.
So this goes on.
For what?
50, 60 miles?
It's a while.
And he finally caught us again,passed us, got in front of me,

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and every time he would slowdown so that we would have to go
back around him.
And the last time we wentaround him there's a sign in his
window and it says we followyou and I was like he's trying
to steal us.
So I wrapped that ram up toabout 2,400 RPM and I mean we're

(28:35):
getting it.
And Maria's like you have gotto slow down, we're going to
blow a tire.
So I think we get far enoughaway and a guy catches us again
and I have to go around him andI told Maria we're just going to
get off at the next exit.

(28:57):
I mean I don't know what to doat this point.
I really think this guy ischasing us, trying to kidnap us.
So we go around him again andit dawns on me it's YouTube.
He follows us on YouTube, notanymore.
No, he's not following usacross the country to steal us.

(29:20):
So we made a short video andposted it and we ended up
getting in touch with him andhis wife had a big laugh over it
.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
That's fabulous.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Anybody else?
All right.
We have an audience question,and this is the time of the show
where the panelists normallyare wondering where I went and
that Sheila was scanning alittle bit ago.

Speaker 14 (29:42):
Hi my name is Judy and yesterday we got some great
ideas from the panel about theirbucket list destinations and I
was jotting them down so we canadd it to our bucket list.
So what are your bucket listdestinations?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Don't everybody answer it once.

Speaker 10 (30:00):
Mine's Alaska.
I know a lot of you guys havebeen to Alaska and we would love
to hear all about it.
I know Chris and Katrina justdid a bunch of videos on that,
but that is ours.
We have not been there yet, Iknow.
You guys do I know, nobody elsedo I know.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Nobody else has a bucket.
Oh, thank you, clay, I like agood nap.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
I know Alaska's on our list.

Speaker 13 (30:28):
Probably Canada too.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Yeah, we want to.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
I hope Canada's on your list, if Alaska is because
you kind of don't have a choice.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
She wants to go from one side to the other.

Speaker 13 (30:40):
No, I want to see the northeast in the fall, like
Canada up in New England.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
So every year that we have been on the road.
For those of y'all that don'tknow, maria is one of the most
amazing photographers in NorthAmerica and she has always
wanted to go to the northeast todo it's called leaf peeping.
Y'all that don't know Maria isone of the most amazing
photographers in North Americaand she has always wanted to go
to the northeast to do it'scalled leaf peeping keep it
clean clay and every year whenwe're planning on going to do

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that, something happens and weget drugged somewhere else.
so we would really like to starton one end of Canada, go all
the way to the other and thencome back through Maine for leaf
peeping season.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
Okay, I think for us there's so many places that we
haven't done Because we learnedpretty early on.
We thought the further we drove, the better we were doing at
RVing, which isn't true, becauseyou miss everything out in the
middle.
So now we take it really slow.
We haven't done Badlands, wehaven't done Badlands, we
haven't done Banff, we haven'tdone all the national parks.
So we still have all of theseamazing places that I'm sure

(31:41):
everyone here has already beento.
But there's one thing I watch, achannel called Destination
Adventure and I was talking tosomeone about this yesterday and
he goes, this guy he's got atruck camper and he tows a
little boat and he goes to someof the remote places in Canada
and obviously we won't be doingthat in our van.
Well, we're not going anywherein our van right now, but you

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definitely won't be doing it ina Class A.
You would need a truck camper.
But some of the places he goesand sees, he finds the weirdest
places, like mining places andold war places which I didn't
even know existed.
But for me, I think my bucketplace is those really weird
remote places that no one elsehas ever really been to.
So yeah, I think that's it forme.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
So, just everywhere remote, everywhere remote,
perfect Correct, lauren, I'mgoing to put you on the spot.

Speaker 14 (32:31):
You know, I kind of second what he said, that
there's so much we haven't seenthat it's hard to have just one
thing on the bucket list.
But ultimately the one thingyou know is on my bucket list is
Hawaii and no, we're not takingthe RV.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
I guess non-RV answers are an option as well.

Speaker 14 (32:47):
What about you?

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Hawaii.

Speaker 14 (32:51):
Because we talk Cheater.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Happy wife happy life .

Speaker 12 (32:57):
I had a question, I'm going to try has anybody
RV'd overseas?
You've done that, so you flewthere and rented.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, and where'd you go?
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hangon, hang on, hang on.

Speaker 8 (33:11):
France and Switzerland.

Speaker 12 (33:13):
Was it difficult to navigate everything.

Speaker 15 (33:16):
No, well, last summer we went to France and
Switzerland and we rented a vana Class C and we drove all
around France four weeks inFrance and three weeks in
Switzerland.
That's amazing and it was veryeasy.
Google Maps is your friend.

(33:37):
It works everywhere, and one ofthe cool things about
especially France is the factthat the roads are really made
for RVing.
You can stop pretty muchanywhere.
What they call airs is like arest area where you can just
pull in.
I mean, you've got gas stations, food, restaurants.

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It was just amazing.
I mean, it was really one of a.
It was a bucket list for sure.

Speaker 12 (34:02):
So that's what we want to do.
When our kids were young, wetook them in a van five kids all
through Europe like Europeanvacation in a van, not an RV,
and we had to stay.
It was a minivan.

Speaker 10 (34:15):
It was a minivan.

Speaker 12 (34:16):
So we had to stay at like Marriott's and stuff.
And now Shelby and I want to goand just go overseas to
different places, not in our rig, but to rent one like you did.
So that's a bucket list.

Speaker 10 (34:29):
at some point, we would love to hear more about it
and the process.
Thank you for sharing Sorry.

Speaker 8 (34:37):
Good Mine's to hear more about it and the process.
Thank you for sharing.
Sorry, good mine's not quite asextravagant, but I definitely
want to go to zion national parkand hike angels landing.
Yes, that's the one whereyou're like climbing the ropes
and yeah.
So I think we're going to dothat this fall.
I don't know if jen's going tojoin me for the whole hike, but,
uh, I definitely want to dothat.
Sheila Angel's Landing we're in, we'll go.

Speaker 10 (35:02):
We'll go with you.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
I'm not in.
If you watch our channel, I'llwait at the bottom.

Speaker 10 (35:11):
We love inviting ourselves to go places with
other people, even though if youdidn't invite us, we just
invited ourselves.

Speaker 8 (35:17):
You have a blanket invitation All right awesome.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Both of them, or just asking Shelby and Jack.

Speaker 10 (35:24):
Oh, you're so nice.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Thank you, jack, you're in, I made it, mike.
Susan, do you guys have abucket list?

Speaker 9 (35:32):
Yeah, for us, I guess it would be visiting the big
five national parks in Utah.
We've scheduled to go theretwice and had to cancel both
times, so there's a part of methat thinks maybe we're not
supposed to go there, but we dowant to get there someday.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Does anybody else have a question behind me?
Nope, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
I want to ask the whole panel I want to see a show
of hands how many of you have achecklist and use it on a
regular basis?
We're going to elaborate onthis.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Nope, keep going.
What's the checklist?
How do you do what version of achecklist?
There's a lot of differentoptions here.

Speaker 13 (36:12):
Well, since we got the new rig rig, I had to do a
checklist for just everything.
Yes, because it's verydifferent, but most importantly
it's it's more like turning ouruni off and the Jeep.
We forgot to do that a coupletimes.
The next thing, you know, we'regetting built twice once for
the RV, which is already towingthe Jeep, and then the Jeep by

(36:34):
itself.
Solists are a must.
Plus, we have to drain thetoilets, because if you don't,
well, we all know what couldhappen there.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
So has anybody?
Oh, go ahead, Lawrence.

Speaker 7 (36:46):
We don't use a checklist, and we really should.
But we kind of have a differenttype of checklist and I use
paper plates and I put them onthe dash to remind me of all the
stupid things, Like now, afterthe other day, the next one is
going to be unplugged from thepedestal and we also have a ring
camera that we stick on theside of the rig, and so I have a

(37:07):
paper plate ring camera.
So I guess we're like a reallycrappy version of a checklist
with just paper plates.
At some point we'll getprofessional and maybe print it
out, Basically post it.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
There's different ways of doing checklists.
As long as you do it, hasanybody just say they have a
checklist and maybe don'tactually use it anymore.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
We had a checklist when we started right Like when
I first started for probably thefirst year.
It was on my phone.
I just checked those thingsthrough, but now I don't use it.
It's like I just start at thefront of the rig and work my way
back and I know what I need todo as I enter each room.
Maybe I'll get to the pointwhere I need paper plates, but
I'm doing pretty good right now.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Has anybody that has not used their checklist, has
that bitten them in any way sofar?

Speaker 10 (38:00):
We absolutely don't have a checklist at all and we
should because we're bad.
But you know, it's likeanything, it's when you leave
your house or whatever.
So you'll start driving andyou'll be like did I turn off
the pump, did I do this, did Ido that?
So I think checklists are greatand if anybody is good with
spreadsheets in here, pleaseemail us one, because we'll
totally use it.

Speaker 14 (38:18):
Shelby, there's one on our website.
I will go there today.

Speaker 6 (38:22):
We used one when we first started, but we have a
routine that does not change,and she does her things and I do
my things, and then we double,double check the three things in
the rig that could break.
Like she takes her showers inthe morning, I take them at, or
she takes it at night and I takeit in the morning.
So when we're leaving on travelday, one of my jobs on the

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inside is to put all the soapsand everything in the little
Tupperware thing that goes inthe bottom, lock the shower door
and then I go, take the TV offthe wall in the bedroom and get
everything placed on the bed andI double check the closet door
to make sure it's latched so itdoesn't break.
Then when Maria goes backthrough, she double checks that

(39:06):
I shut the shower, that thecloset's locked, and she closes
up the TV in the living room andthen, while I'm waiting on her
to get stuff for me to carry outto the truck, I double check to
make sure that she locked thetv in place.
And that's just our routine.
And if you any of y'all thathave walked up to me and John

(39:28):
that, they'll tell you I don'tcare if somebody interrupts me
because if you do, I start allover again.
I start from step one.
As soon as I hook the truck up,I do a walk around the rig and
then I double check andphysically touch every one of
the connections in the truck tomake sure that it's it's done.
I have to touch things to sorry.

Speaker 10 (39:51):
Sheila so it sounds like we all need to line up by
your rig when you're checkingout tomorrow, because you have
to keep going over and overagain.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
Y'all would think it's funny, but I would just
keep doing it.
I can't tell you how many timesI've started.
We got stuck in one part.
There were like four peoplethat came over and Maureen I
kind of have a thing now towhere, when I give her the look,
it's get these people away fromme.
And she missed that look and Iended up talking to this guy for

(40:22):
an hour and a half and she cameoutside.
She was like, hey, we'resupposed to be somewhere in like
five minutes and I was like,well, I gave you the look, but I
will, I'll start over everytime.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
All right, we've got another question if nobody else
has Anyone on that one.

Speaker 11 (40:42):
We all kind of touched on a few of these.
But what's?
Some of the funniest thingsthat have either happened to you
or you have seen since you'vebeen on the road.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I love how you threw the general public potentially
in there too.

Speaker 8 (40:58):
When we were in Florida, we once saw a guy
walking a chicken On a leash orlike in his arm On a leash.
Okay, and then just recently wesaw someone in an RV park that
had a goat in their RV Full-sizegoat as a pet, as a pet.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
All of these things are normal for us they also have
a brown couch now.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
That was Lawrence's cousin.

Speaker 7 (41:25):
I think, and this wasn't funny for the poor guy
who was doing this, but wherewere we In Virginia, somewhere
in a state park in Virginia, andI don't think he really
understood how to empty a blacktank.
And we were behind him and thispoor, I mean I feel bad because
we were laughing, but the poorguy, he I can't even remember

(41:46):
what happened.
He didn't get close enough, sohe put the septic, the stinky,
slinky, onto it and emptied itand it popped off the rig and so
, instead of closing it, hepicked up the pipe and tried to
push it on and then it pulledout the other side.
So it was, and he just didn'tknow.

(42:07):
He went on a full-on panic andI feel really bad now.

Speaker 6 (42:11):
That's a straight-up situation.

Speaker 7 (42:13):
It was, but we were very patient.
We were it was, but we werevery patient.
We were in a rush, we were verypatient.
I was going to go and help him,but I didn't want to be
anywhere near all of that stuff.
And anyway, he was there forabout an hour cleaning himself
up.
He was in his pajamas as well,which I thought was weird, so I
don't think he was leaving.
I think he was just empty.
He's obviously halfway througha a shower and the tank filled,
so he quickly ran down to thedump station.

(42:34):
Yeah, so I feel really bad forhim.
He was absolutely covered.
He was all on his arms, all uphis legs.
I did film it.
I did not put it on the channelbecause I didn't think that
would be fair, but yeah, oh, Ifeel sick just thinking about it
Just blur his face out.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
That's true.

Speaker 12 (42:51):
I still have the footage.
We'll put it as a short.
Sometimes when I drive I speedand every time I speed Shelby
yells at me.
She says, hey, slow down.
There was one time where Shelbytold me I had to speed up and
speed.
You want to say why?
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 10 (43:07):
So I don't remember where we were, but we were
driving and I look up and itlooks like there's dismembered
bodies on the top of somebody'sroof.
And I had no idea it was on acar when we were driving and I
had no idea what's going on.
I'm like this is so weird.
So I'm like speed up, speed up,and I have a picture of it and
it's somebody.
They were driving on a car,down the road, on a with their
car, and they had like fourmannequin bodies, all like that

(43:29):
you see in stores some had legs,some didn't, some had arms and
was like what the heck is goingon here?
She's going speed up, speed up.
I'm like I didn't know what Iwas seeing, because at first
you're like, what Is this forreal?
And it really was.
So I don't know what they weredoing with that, but you know,
maybe they were going to getyour tape and wire and all of
that.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
So, mike, let me do one thing because I have a jack
speeding story.
So, day one of RVU productionyou guys are pulling from your
prep site down and of courseeverybody's queued up ready to
come into this thing, except onecouple.

Speaker 10 (44:08):
We are always late, we apologize, we know.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
We've accepted it Me.
But now we're waiting on youguys at this point, and so I
think you start to get maybe afew text messages.
I think I sent one, some otherguys may have sent one, and then
out of nowhere, and if you have, how many people have been to
Camp Margaritaville inAuburndale, okay?
So when you come in to the parkright by those main front gates
, off to the right, that bigfield by the gator-infested lake

(44:32):
, that's where they boondock forthe show we have to come out
and then make a U-turn into thatlittle gravel lot.
They flew rocks when he madethat turn.
I could have sworn that rig wasgoing to dump on its side.
If you could fishtail a fifthwheel, he did.
I was excited and he was still20 minutes late.
Yeah, that's true, I can onlyimagine the people in the park.

(44:54):
Was still 20 minutes late?
Yeah, that's true, I can onlyimagine the people in the park.
If you hit those speed bumps atthat speed you probably might
bounce your rig.

Speaker 9 (45:01):
All right, Mike.
Sorry, go ahead, I forgot mystory.
I'm sorry.
I'm on the struggle bus thismorning.
I got a quick one.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Separate you two.

Speaker 8 (45:09):
I got a quick one when we were in Palm Springs,
california, one time.
We were sitting, it was in themorning time and we were
drinking our coffee, looking outthe window and we see this RV

(45:34):
pull in back into the site nextto us, run right over the water,
bib, create a geyser, get out,look at it, panic, take off,
doors open.
I mean stairs were down Likethey didn't want to get caught
or something and they just tookoff and left the park and
there's this geyser, just keepon going.
So I hope we walked over theoffice yeah anybody else got one
, all right.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
So this isn't funny, it's kind of concerning how many
of y'all.
So I'm a point A, point Bperson and if I can find a way
to lessen the cost along the way, like an overnight boondock on
the side of the interstate, or Imean just I'll stay in some
sketchy places that other peoplewon't.

(46:14):
Maria can't stand it, but we'llstay in a rest stop.
I'll stay on the side of theinterstate.
You know, we'll stay in a tarpit where they gathered up stuff
to repave roads.
And I think we were on our wayto the Michigan huddle and we
were coming from the west coastup to Michigan and we decided to
go through Minneapolis and Ididn't want to pay for an RV

(46:39):
park.
So I told Maria we'reMethodists, we'll just call the
Methodist church and give themBishop Graves' name and tell
them you know we're not lying.
Can we please stay in theparking lot?
So of course you know most ofthe stuff that comes out of my
mouth Maria's like you have lostyour mind, just rent an RV

(47:00):
space.
So I call the Methodist churchand they're like absolutely, you
just have to be gone by 8 am inthe morning.
Please park, you know over bythe trees because we have a
little construction going on.
So we pull into this parking lotand we're talking to our
daughter on the phone and Inoticed these people walking

(47:20):
around and I told Maria.
I was like I don't think we canstay here and she has not seen
these people yet.
So she's like one.
I was like I think there's somestrange people here.
And she looks over her shoulderand she looks back at me and
I'd already dumped the air outof the airbags to get the fifth
wheel level and she's like getout of here.
It was a pimp and three of hisprostitutes In a church parking

(47:46):
lot.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
All right, please cut off.

Speaker 7 (47:55):
This is disgusting Clay, but where was this?

Speaker 6 (48:00):
I'll send you the pin , thank you.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Lawrence, please tell I don't even want to unpack
what that meant when you saidthat as far as like, is it a
like, maybe opportunity to makesome money or spend money?

Speaker 7 (48:11):
I just don't believe him.
I need to check it out formyself.

Speaker 6 (48:13):
Okay, that's what it is Maria's sitting here and
she'll usually tell you if I'mlying or not.
Am I lying?

Speaker 1 (48:22):
No.

Speaker 18 (48:25):
All right, we've got another question from the
audience.
Hey guys, we've really enjoyedthe opportunity to get to meet
and visit with most of you guys.
My question is what advicewould you have for creator slash
channel in its infancy to kindof continue to grow, or what did
you find worked for you guys tokind of get started and get and

(48:47):
get your, your brand out there?

Speaker 8 (48:54):
just keep plugging away.
That's the biggest piece ofadvice.
Just keep putting content outthere.
You're just going to get betterand better and better the more
you do it.
You're not going to be a mastereditor your first year of doing
youtube probably but just keepplugging away yeah, there's no.

Speaker 6 (49:12):
What we've figured is and everybody says this and it
sounds so hard to obtain it's100% the content, and it's not
who puts the content togetherand it's not how you put the
content together, it's thesubject matter, and that subject

(49:32):
matter has to be at the perfectpoint in time that a bulk of
the audience out there wants tosee it.
Um, we knocked one out of thepark with how to generate
revenue on on the road and thatone was one of the biggest ones
that we did.
But up until that point, westruggled to get 600 views on

(49:54):
any video and it's becausepeople were looking how to
generate revenue.
Now, once you get up to thestatus of a really big channel,
people are going to follow you.
For the personalities,unfortunately for us I have a
very off-putting personality.
Clay, you're a treat to me, butit really is just constantly

(50:19):
keep putting stuff out untilenough.
People see the subject matterthat you're putting out there
and fall in love with yourpersonality or your character
and then watch you for what youput out, not necessarily the
content.

Speaker 9 (50:33):
Mike, I would say it's very, very easy to get
caught up in the analytics andthe numbers and how many
subscribers do I have and howmany views am I getting, and all
that stuff.
Really none of that matters.
The really thing that mattersis are you making the best
content you possibly can?
And if you focus on that andthen you focus on all the things

(50:53):
you have to do to create thatgreat content and what you need
to do to be very consistent withyour content, if you put out a
video a week, you know be asconsistent as you can with it
and also think ahead about youknow what are your big goals.
Why do you have a channel?
What's, how do you want toserve the RV community with your

(51:16):
channel and then try to stickto that philosophy as you move
ahead in your journey.
It'll really help give you thepurpose that you need.
That will supply you the drivethat you need to be able to pull
this off, because it's a lot ofwork, and so I would focus on
the things that are really themost important part of being a

(51:36):
good YouTuber, which are not thenumbers.
Don't get caught up in that.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
So I would say just kind of on Mike, because I'm
slightly a panelist on this onetoo.
When Mike said goals, I thinkyour goals have to automatically
change.
And not only your goals, butunderstand your why for those
goals.
And not only your goals, butunderstand your why for those
goals.
Because when you're reallysmall, if I asked every single
person on this panel, they'dprobably have a similar but
slightly different reason whythey started the channel.

(52:00):
We wanted our family to knowwhere we were, we wanted to tell
a very specific story, wewanted to share a process, and
so if you understand that goalor that reason why and it can
change it doesn't have to be thesame thing the entire duration,
like Todd and Sheila's goal haschanged.

(52:21):
Like you started because ofsheila, your dad and kind of
that was your why to get out,and now it's about community and
so it's changed.
That would be my thing is justunderstand it and progress with
it as well I just want to tryone thing.

Speaker 12 (52:30):
Um, has anyone ever watched the show Orange County
Choppers?
Okay, what was that show about?
How did the show start?
It started as a show of makingcustom motorcycles.
That's why the Learning Channelor somebody put up all the
money to do it and they quicklyrealized the show is not about

(52:52):
the backdrop, that's just thebackdrop.
The show is about theinteraction between a father and
son.
The reason Shelby and I watch somany of these channels is the
people up here do a very goodjob of showing the interaction
between each other and I relateto that and Shelby and I relate
to that.
So, although the backdrop forus is RVs, or for other people

(53:13):
it's traveling through Europe,or for other people it's sewing
Europe, or for other people it'ssewing, if you can tie in the
human aspect, more people willrelate to that and watch it.
That's why we do, and if youcan kind of stick to that, then
there's no perfection on thebackdrop or the perfection of
RVing, because it's not perfect,that's just the backdrop.
You can be perfect at relatingto who you are.

(53:35):
I think that's where it's at.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Anybody else got one, I'm going to give you
encouragement.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
Oh go ahead.
I'm going to give you a littleencouragement.
Nobody is going to watch yourvideo.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Deep thoughts with Todd.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Here's the reason I say this.
The why is the only thingthat's important.
Period when I tell people this,I said it yesterday as well.
I started creating YouTubecontent in 2009.
Content in 2009.

(54:14):
I've done over I'm going to say1,300 videos before Switch it
Up ever started.
And most of those videos thewhy was because I wanted to
share and I wanted something formy kids' kids and their kids to
know who we were and what wedid.
Never once did I ever thinkthat it would turn into anything

(54:39):
.
I hoped one day maybe, but itwasn't going to be a career
choice.
The why was it was a creativeoutlet for me and sharing and
stuff Nobody watched.
You can look at Todd Conitzer.
You can look at Todd's CrazyAdventures.
I mean I created multiplevideos and nobody watched.
You can look at Todd Connitzer.
You can look at Todd's CrazyAdventures.
You can look up.
I mean I created multiplevideos and nobody watched.

(55:00):
When our Y changed to hit theroad and we developed Switch it
Up, again, nobody was going towatch, but for us, I wanted to
document our journey to sharewith our and it's just costumes,
help.
I guess I was a sawdust fairyand I've been a dinosaur.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
You are welcome.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Yes.
So I've done a lot of fun stuff, but again, it's just because I
got a weird sense of humor andyou guys all just jumped on and
started watching and it's ablessing.
But our why changed when Sheilasat one day and she goes I
don't know what to do.
She doesn't like to make videosand I was like you're.
Then this is what you're goingto do.

(55:41):
Every video, when somebodycomments, you pour into that
person, you find out who theyare and what, and that's her
heart, and I say it all the time.
We are all here because of her.
It may be my crazy antics, butnone of us would be here without
her pouring her heart into thecommunity of the RV space and

(56:04):
you.
It's true, the amount of workshe pours into this.
It's a blessing to all of us.
But I want to give youencouragement because we all
sucked.
We still suck.
A lot of you tell me how bad.
I suck on my videos.

(56:26):
They're too shaky, the volume'snot good.
This and that.
Don't let that.
You're a Christian.
You're going to get every hatecomment.
You're going to get all that.
Just smile and there's thisbeautiful button called Block
and you don't ever have to seethem again.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Unless you give them their cell phone number and they
automatically say please stopmaking me want to vomit because
of the shakiness.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do that too.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Thank you for buying the Osmo Pocket 3, by the way,
you're welcome, lawrence.
You want to try and follow thatup now.

Speaker 7 (56:56):
No.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
No, no, no.
I'm good thanks.

Speaker 7 (57:00):
Nope, you're going to do it anyway, I can't remember
what I was going to say.
I think for someone that'sstarting on YouTube, I think the
most important thing is to makesure your personality is front
and center.
If you cannot sleep at night,go and watch our very first
video, because that's what I useto put me to sleep.
It's so boring.

(57:21):
Natalie's disappearing into thatscreen Please don't she's going
to go and unlist it now.
It was awful.
It was scripted.
We were sat there talking, wedid very few overlays.
It honestly is the most boring.
And then eventually we weretrying to push it and get more
subscribers and it gets veryaddicting trying to get more
subscribers and it's like Ican't remember who said it.
Someone said, stop looking atthe numbers.

(57:41):
I think it was you and it'strue.
We really don't look at thenumbers anymore and we just film
what we're doing and what wethink is funny and what's going
on, and we kind of do it off thecuff.
You know, we originally startedto make it all cinematic just
because I love all that stuff,but people didn't like to watch
it and so as soon as we broughtour personality out and we were

(58:03):
just ourselves and just starteddoing stuff and filming it,
that's really when the channelgrew up.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
So you started drinking on camera, that's also.
Or at least before the cameracame on Exactly.
So I do have a very specificquestion, just because this is
my analytical brain curiositybut do you guys and I don't know
how to quantify this, butbecause you're British do you
see a little bit of a spike overthere versus the states?

Speaker 7 (58:28):
no, um, canada, yeah, that's not a word.
Canada is our second biggest,and also we see a lot of guys
from india.
Uh, yeah, do, is that just us,or is we get a little bit?

Speaker 1 (58:43):
oh okay, that's weird okay, yeah, no, we.

Speaker 7 (58:45):
We have a lot of viewers from india on a lot of
things.
So, um, but yeah, no, it'sreally the us, it's canada,
india and then a very few in theUK, which is probably just my
mom, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Is it like a disowned thing, like please go, just
stay over there?

Speaker 14 (59:00):
I think it's also important to know that we're all
still learning.
We're at very different pointsin our careers and different
followings and whatnot, andwe're all still learning, though
we're adapting as we go andlearning from each other.
So reach out to the people thatare in your community on that,
and we have a saying that's whenGod opens doors, you walk
through them, and so when youfind opportunities, make sure to

(59:21):
say yes to those.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
And be aware of the ones that are close, so you
don't smack your head into it.

Speaker 14 (59:26):
Again.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Again.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Just yeah, Are you ready for your question now?
Sorry.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
I'm going to stand up for this one.
I've got to stand up for thisone because I want to make sure
that you'll all see us out here,because we are so grateful for
all the time and effort you putinto creating your content, the
hours that you spend doing it,to entertain us, to inform us.
We appreciate it because wespend a lot of time watching

(59:53):
your videos.
Yeah, thank you, thank you,thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you, thank you,appreciate it because we spend a
lot of time watching yourvideos.
So I'm going to take a look alittle bit further down the road
, just a little bit for thisquestion, because I know some of
you have newer channels, someof you have channels that have
been around for a long time, andso one of the things I noticed

(01:00:18):
is that the RV YouTube worldkind of got saturated, yeah, and
so how have you thought abouthow to diversify?
I mean, turn it up world, comeon Slots.
My husband stayed up untilmidnight last night because of
it.
But how do you decide?

(01:00:43):
We talked about the why, whichis good, but how do you know
when to shift gears?
How do you know when to pivot?

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Can I just clarify one thing?
Do you mean pivot inside of theRV space itself or just YouTube
in general?
Because I think that'simportant Content, content
across.
Okay, go ahead Clay.

Speaker 6 (01:01:06):
So we don't even consider that.
And here's why, as much as weappreciate every one of y'all
that watch one of our videos andI'd like to apologize for some
of the ones you've had to watchwe're not necessarily doing it
for y'all Um One.
We do it for us, as to what wewant to portray to our grandkids

(01:01:28):
, our great-grandkids.
If the platform is stillavailable and if y'all happen to
enjoy it, then that's just abonus and we'd love to hear it
and love to see that.
But ultimately, we're not doingthis for a living.
We're doing this because, youknow, I've got a good friend

(01:01:48):
that that called me a couplemonths ago and he said hey, clay
, do you think that it'spossible to use a servo gx to do
location tracking on my fifthwheel?
And I said you know, wait,never even thought about it,
give me a couple days.
That gave me a project that Iended up filming that I think 12

(01:02:10):
people watched.
But I I wrote code and showedstep by step how to log into a
servo gx, place this code on itand use it for gps tracking so
that you don't have to buy youknow another system or something
.
Um, I thought it was reallycool.
Again.
One person in here also thoughtit was cool, and I'm okay with

(01:02:34):
that because I wanted to putthat out.
Maria, and just so y'all know,we've transitioned.
Maria doesn't do any of thevideo editing anymore, I do all
of it.
So when Maria was doing it, itwas more about travel and the
pictures and things like that.
Now that I'm doing it, it's waymore technical.

(01:02:55):
How to.
If you've got this problem,here's how we solved it.
But as far as switching gearsto pick up another 20,000
subscribers, not even a thoughtin our brain.

Speaker 17 (01:03:11):
When we started our channel, it's predominantly
about RV tours, sprinkled inwith a few tips and how-tos, and
so obviously I'm notcomfortable public speaking,
which is why I'm always behindthe camera.
So our channel is predominantlyabout tours, and we were not

(01:03:35):
full timers.
We were home and so that waseasy for us.
That was something that wecould very easily do.
We weren't sharing ourlifestyle.
When we decided to hit the roadmore often, we wondered should
we pivot to be a lifestylechannel?
And we thought a lot about it.

(01:03:56):
We had some sleepless nights andI just came to the conclusion
that I just couldn't do it.
I could not be comfortablesharing all day long or my
experience or being in front ofthe camera.
So I just thought you know what, despite the fact that we might
be on the road more and we mayhave opportunity to share more
things, which we can do if thatdoes come up I prefer sticking

(01:04:19):
to what we were most comfortablewith and what was working for
us.
So we did have that moment intime where we wondered should we
shift, should we do somethingdifferent?
And, knowing that we justweren't comfortable doing that,
we stuck in our lane.

Speaker 9 (01:04:35):
I'll also piggyback on that a little bit and say,
even though we did stay in ourlane, we also read every comment
that we get on our YouTubechannel, and we really listen to
our audience.
So when they were telling us,hey, you know, we'd like you to,
we'd like to see this, that andthe other thing in your RV tour
, we would add those things to,you know, to what we were

(01:04:57):
covering, and so I think there'sjust a whole bunch of
information that your audiencewill give you if you're looking
to learn more about are youserving the needs of your viewer
?
Are you giving them theinformation or the entertainment
value that they want?
You can even ask people andthey'll, and they'll be happy to
tell you what they'd like toreceive.
But for us, you know, ouraudience has helped us a ton

(01:05:21):
along the way, and once you geta few requests for something, if
you get three or four requests,there's probably a lot more
people that are thinking thesame thing, and so you can pivot
along those lines within whatyou're trying to do.
I also.
The world has become very, verysaturated with YouTubers, and

(01:05:42):
so I do think a real big key toall this is finding something
that's different that no oneelse is doing and that can set
you apart and really help yourchannel to take off and grow.
So if you can find a way toserve the community, that's a
very different angle or adifferent way of doing things.
I think there's a lot of meritto that.

(01:06:02):
There's a lot of merit to that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
And I would say too like.
So we have this conversation.
Especially the last few months,Lauren and I have had this
conversation a lot because shestill works a full-time job and
so it's really just me, and thenshe kind of comes in and goes
and that's why you get a lot ofit.
But I do 100% of the channelfor the most part.
But we, you know everybody uphere is going to say if you're
going to do RV stuff, stay in RVstuff From an analytical, if

(01:06:26):
that's how you're going to lookat it, right.
And so we're in the middle of acruise series on our channel
right now and I've always saidwe're a travel channel first.
That happens to predominantlyRV because we full-time or used
to full-time as of two weeks ago.
And so I've thought about how Iwant to justify this to myself
and it's like, well, I'd rathershare experiences, if that makes
sense, and it's not necessarilybecause I'm looking for the

(01:06:49):
quick analytical payback if Ikind of did the whole.
I mean, seo is a thing on everyvideo search engine
optimization and you can followtrends and try to follow those
trends.
But at the end of the day, I'dmuch rather share the
experiences, and sometimesthat's not always in an RV now
it is for us, but sometimes it'son a cruise, sometimes it's in

(01:07:09):
a setting like this.
You never know where thatexperience that you want to
share might pop up for us, andso that's why I've kind of
shifted that mentality to I justwant to share the experience,
more so than stay in a box.
If that makes sense and if wedo it the right way, I feel like
at least over time, theviewership, the followership
will come.
As long as we always try to getbetter at one thing and that's

(01:07:30):
my ultimate goal is just getbetter at one thing, every video
.

Speaker 8 (01:07:35):
And as content creators, we understand that
when we're creating a video,it's going to go into a category
, right, it's either going to bea video where it's going to get
a whole bunch of views rightaway and then kind of die off A
video where it's going to get awhole bunch of views right away
and then kind of die off.
Or it's going to be what wecall an evergreen video, where
it gets a few views but itmaintains those few views over a

(01:07:55):
period of time.
And here's the sad realityThumbnails.
Thumbnails is what drives viewsto videos and, unfortunately,
who hates clickbait thumbnails?
Me too, but guess what?
People click on them.
They work, unfortunately, andto get people to.

(01:08:16):
So here's how I view a clickbaitthumbnail.
Clickbait thumbnail to me is ifyou have a thumbnail that is
completely not related to thevideo the content in the video
that you're putting out that tome is a clickbait video.
The content in the video thatyou're putting out that to me is
a clickbait video or thumbnail.
Then you have thumbnails thatwe try to do that make people
want to click on it to get ananswer to the question that's in

(01:08:36):
their head by looking at thatthumbnail.
If I'm looking at a thumbnail,it should generate some kind of
question that makes me go hmm, Ineed to click on that because I
want to know the answer, but ithas to be related to the
content of the video.
If it doesn't, it's not related, then that's clickbait.
So that's the society that welive in people, they, they, they
want to know the answer to thequestion they have.

(01:08:57):
So, yeah, drama.
Unfortunately, drama sells doyou guys?

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
I know there's a misnomer right here and I'm
going to spill the beans.
I know the perception is whenpeople start a YouTube channel
for RVing, they can make moneyso they can stay on the road.
That's why they do it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
For anybody that believes that, come see me and I
will show you the revenue wegenerated from our biggest video
.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
I'm going to tell you right now Switch it up A
channel of 67,000 and we have avery great community.
We average, I think, this lastmonth we made $1,400 on YouTube
Our biggest month the videoswhen we posted and we did that.
Our biggest month on YouTubewas $4,000.

(01:09:49):
But it was one month.
The rest of the time it's notas much as you think.
I can guarantee you that a lotof us are in the same, similar
position.
Some channels are bigger, butif in your mind you're thinking
they're making 10, 15 and 20thousand a month, that ain't
happening if you've seen in achurch parking lot with like

(01:10:15):
pimps and, yeah, I should havefilmed that that would have been
a big video I that.

Speaker 16 (01:10:26):
Alright.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
How did you know?
Did you ask the question?
Are you a pimp?

Speaker 6 (01:10:37):
I will say we did do a little assuming.
It's probably the cane and theleopard printed, but when they
all piled out of a broke downHonda Civic, missing a door,
with three wheels, with hardlyany clothes on.
I don't think they were goingto get baptized.

Speaker 7 (01:10:57):
How much did you pay them?

Speaker 6 (01:11:00):
It was $40 for 15 minutes, but if you paid $100,
you could get a quarter ounce ofcrack with it we're gonna move
on now so I've got a questionfor all of yous and I don't know
to me this has always been aquestion that's really never

(01:11:21):
been answered.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
So y'all talk, you know, comment all that thing,
and just how much it actuallyhelps you guys.
So to me I don't feel right inliking a video until I've
watched it at the end.
Well, one of the things a lotof videos end before they really
let you know they're ending andso you don't have the ability

(01:11:43):
to like in that case, so youalmost have to do it beforehand.
So can you kind of elaborate onhow that helps you and what
helps you the most?
The infamous.

Speaker 8 (01:11:54):
YouTube algorithm.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
I was going to say first of all, if the video ends,
there is a back button at thetop left of your screen there
that you can go back and thenhit.
Like Just saying, All right.

Speaker 6 (01:12:02):
Anybody.
So here's what my research hasdetermined it is the luck of the
draw when you post the thingand how many people like you.
And I'd like to point out Ithink what everybody's talking

(01:12:24):
about when they say consistentis you don't want to stray too
far from, like Jack was saying,the main backdrop of your
channel.
So if they're more aboutthemselves with the RV being the
background, they don't want tostray too far away from
interaction between themselves.
For Maria and I we're all overthe place.
You know we'll tell you how togenerate revenue on the road in
an RV, but then you know I'llalso give you a technical

(01:12:45):
solution to something else.
So when YouTube sees ourcontent, if you think of it as a
circle and then divided like apie with multiple rings on the
inside, when you first releasethat, it gets put into a
quadrant and then when you clickthat I liked it it scores that

(01:13:06):
and it looks at the other stuffthat you watched and then it
finds the things that youwatched and it'll share it to
other people that watched it andif they like it too, it starts
to hone in on a group of peoplethat it presents it to.
So if you don't get a like, youget no steering of the
algorithm, and the only peoplethat watch it are the ones that
subscribe.

(01:13:34):
And here's the funny thing wehave 17, almost 18,000
subscribers.
I can release a video and lessthan 800 will be presented with
that video in the first 24 hours.
So it's key that if you likethe video, then YouTube shares
it more.
It's also key to watch at leastthe first 30 seconds, because
if you don't, then YouTube justkind of throws that away as a

(01:13:57):
non-view.
The longer you watch it, themore it thinks it's holding your
interest, because we're theproduct that YouTube is selling
and they're selling it to you.
They want to keep you engagedon YouTube for longer to see
those ads and increase theirrevenue.
Now, they don't care if youwatch me or Jason or Jack, or

(01:14:21):
switch it up.
They could not care less aboutus.
What they want to do ismaintain your attention.
So when you comment onsomething that goes towards
engagement, when you like it,when you share it, that means
that you're engaged, you'restaying on their platform, and
then they recommend more of ourstuff because of that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
Brilliant.
You sum that up great.

Speaker 14 (01:14:45):
I would say the other thing is you can always
like it and then if you decideyou don't, you could remove it
if you really wanted to, but atleast then you know it's there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:51):
Please don't.

Speaker 14 (01:14:54):
Hey, he'd like more if we knew.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
And not that this is a selfless plug, but in podcast
it's completely different andthat just throws another layer
of complexity because there's afollow button on podcast.
But at the end of the day justhitting that follow button and
turning on auto downloadsactually helps the most on that
front, because there is nocomment department in podcast
world so so what?

Speaker 12 (01:15:15):
what clay said right there?
I'm going to try my best.
I apologize, but scratchy.
What clay said there, alongwith the pivot question, is
super important because if youpivot your channel, then what
youtube knew to do with you toshow to people is now completely
different and youtube getsconfused as to who to show you

(01:15:36):
to.
Now I'll give you an example asa fledgling channel, shelby and
I made a few videos after wefilmed rv unplugged.
We made a few videos of just usspilling our rig, doing what we
always do messing up.
So we did that and peoplewatched.
And then we wanted to makevideos for RV Unplugged to pay

(01:15:59):
homage to the fact that thisshow changed our lives.
So we felt dedicated to RVUnplugged.
Ryan told me that content willbe so specific you're going to
see a dip, and we did it anywayconsciously with that advice and
he was correct.
So anyone else who's been onthe show RV Unplugged might have

(01:16:21):
seen a dip when you do specificRV Unplugged related material.
We did that on purpose and wedid it, and we knew that we
would not get 3,000 views,10,000 views, and that was fine.
So we did that on purpose.
But Clay's point, along withthe pivot question.
You combine those two and youmight make a conscious decision

(01:16:41):
to do it anyway, because that'swhat you want to do, but the
algorithm might not know what todo with you all right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
So just as a heads up , we only have a few minutes
left and I have three questionsqueued up, so that's probably
all we're going to have timeleft for, just as a heads up so
when you guys started yourchannel, how many of you all
started your channel with theintention of running as a
business, versus just doing itbecause you enjoy doing it?

(01:17:09):
What did you do to mymicrophone?
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 8 (01:17:15):
We just did it to create an archive.
We always tell people how coolwould it be to watch your
great-grandparents' YouTubevideos from like the 20s, how
awesome would that be.
And then it kind of justmorphed into a business once we
realized that we could be suedfor content, even though if it
wasn't intentional trying tomake someone mad with our

(01:17:38):
content then we created an LLCjust to protect ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
I was gonna say I think that's a double-ended
question because I don't thinkmany of us start with the intent
of making content for abusiness.
But I think, like for us, westarted the actual formation of
the company very early on, butfor the reasons what we just
heard, and I just want to be asa whole, I'm more of a business
person and so I wanted to beprepared on the backside.
The worst that happens is Ideform the company.

(01:18:04):
But I never thought of thatwhen making the content at first
.

Speaker 9 (01:18:11):
It just kind of became an easy transition
because it already existed inthe background.
When I started RV Blogger, Ifully intended it to be a
business.
I had to replace my income atwork so I could hit the road and
enjoy the lifestyle.
I had to build our incomeenough so Susan could quit her
job so she could come along withme, and so we spent a lot of

(01:18:35):
time probably a good solid yearresearching what the business
model was that we wanted to use,how we wanted to do it, how to
make it multifaceted.
So we just didn't have oneincome stream.
We had many income streamscoming in, and so you know, you
can make this whatever you wouldlike it to be.

(01:18:56):
It works for everyone, no matterhow you do it.
Just because I started it withthe intention of it being a
business that's going to helppay for us to get on the road
and become our full-time jobs,and somebody else started a
channel because they wanted tohave it for their kids and
grandkids, the result's the same, or could be the same.
You still get a lot of views,but I'm not sure exactly if I'm

(01:19:20):
answering your question.
Though.
Is there an underlying questionto your question about why it
would be a business versus Mike?
You're making me move.

Speaker 11 (01:19:28):
Sorry, Ryan, but you need the exercise an underlying
question to your question aboutwhy it would be a business
versus Mike.
You're making me move.
Sorry, ryan, but you need theexercise.
No, I was just curious becauseyou know we have a small channel
and we're trying to grow it andI was just curious how many of
you guys just started out like,hey, this is fun.
When I was a kid, I made 8mmmovies all for fun, and now
we're doing it on YouTube andwe're making a lot of money,

(01:19:51):
like you guys are.
Um, but I was just curious howmany came into this with the
intention of doing it as abusiness.
Yeah, so you, you answer myquestion.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Yes, all right, great , and unfortunately mike's mike.
Ironically, he's gonna be cutoff for the rest of the day.
All right now I got to get backto my other question as far as
switch it up goes.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
We didn't start with the intention of a business, so
that's that's us.
We.
We developed into community.
We have to be a businessbecause our liability is so much
, with all the differentelements and insurances now and
stuff.

(01:20:30):
But the mission now we design.
I think we've now developedinto a mission that has a
business proponent because Imean, we're, we live by faith
and we don't have a ton of moneyand so we have to negotiate
brands to help move the missionforward and our ultimate goal is
to make ourselves irrelevant.

(01:20:51):
That sense like the crew campouts are led by crew people in
the switch it up community andwe're not there.
So I guess that would be how tomove forward in a mission
without us.
How is having to be theforefront to everything and make
the mission?
It didn't start that way, butwe have many different aspects.

(01:21:14):
Love to talk to you more indepth on it if you really want
to know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
But and he may stop talking about it at some point.
If you get him going, he canroll with it, because we've had
those conversations I want topiggyback on that just a little
bit.

Speaker 9 (01:21:26):
And you know, part of running your business is having
an exit plan.
I didn't start this businesswith the intention of being able
to run a business for the restof my life.
It has specific goals that I'dlike it to achieve, and so
there's an exit plan attached toit somewhere along the way.
And so if you're thinking aboutthis, whether it a business or

(01:21:47):
not, for you, you know what isyour real plan?
Why are you doing it?
What do you hope to achieve oraccomplish, and then what?
How are you going to know whenyou get there and then what's
going to happen when you achievethat goal?
And so many times, especiallywhen you get caught up in this
business, what happens is youkeep moving the goal posts, you
achieve the, and then it's like,wow, maybe I can do more, let's

(01:22:10):
back those goalposts up alittle bit, and you can find
yourself on the treadmill prettyquick, which is what a lot of
us left the corporate treadmill.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
So be careful of that for sure I feel attacked by
that treadmill comment, butwhatever.

Speaker 6 (01:22:25):
Sticking with the theme, man, I know, when we went
full-time, the first thing thatwe did was we got in touch with
a CPA, because you can buildout an LLC and there's a whole
set of issues that come withthat that you have to keep track
of.
But you don't have to have anLLC to take advantage of the tax
write-offs that living afull-time, you can do it as a

(01:22:49):
DBA.
So I would say, know yoursituation and talk to a really
good CPA and then figure out ifyou need to create an LLC for
those protections, because Imean, an LLC is basically there
just for liability protection.
It's in the name of thecorporation.
The DBA is just pass-throughthrough income, the same as an

(01:23:09):
LLC.
So I would say, talk with a CPAto see if you get to that point
and need it.
Perfect, thank you all right.

Speaker 16 (01:23:16):
Next question okay, as like a semi-professional
YouTube viewer and with with aserious case of ad ad.
What's important to me when Iwatch your, you, what watch
youtubes is first I click on it,then I got to put up with a 30
second commercial or you know Iskip through a couple of them.

(01:23:39):
You know you got the ninesecond and and then if it
doesn't grab me in about thefirst 30, 40 seconds seconds,
I'm gone.
So when you create your content, maybe you start out with this
is what we're going to do todayor whatever.
You've got to hook me,otherwise I'm gone.
And you know, just as you'reputting these together.

(01:24:00):
I mean, think about that, butyou had mentioned earlier or
just a little bit ago and kindof took me off.
My question is we discovered inmy in-laws house about an hour
and a half of 16mm film from the50s and 60s where her

(01:24:21):
grandparents went to Alaska witha pickup camper, took her
brothers, we got Alaska trips, alot of them, a lot of ranch
life from the 50s and 60s.
50 years from now, yourgrandkids are going to watch
what you guys are doing and itis so cool to look back and see
what great grandma and greatgrandpa did when they went to

(01:24:43):
Alaska.

Speaker 8 (01:24:44):
So I think that's really awesome what you guys are
doing, but remember that first30 seconds is super important to
guys like me yeah it'simportant to the YouTube
algorithm too, and when we wehave a what's called an audience
retention chart thataccompanies each video we put
out, and the first 30 secondsare always your biggest
indicator.

(01:25:04):
That's always your biggest dropof viewers in your first 30
seconds and it'll tell you ifit's above typical or below
typical or whatever.
So, yeah, we do keep an eye onthat, but that's awesome
feedback.

Speaker 6 (01:25:15):
Here's the other, and I'm probably the only one up
here dumb enough to actually saythis.
So for every one of you,there's another one on this side
over here that says I hate itwhen you immediately jump into
the give me, ease me into it.
So it's a balance of.
Everybody tries to create thathook in the first 30 seconds,

(01:25:36):
but for every person that thatloves red, there's another one
that hates it and the commentsare just full of it.
So it's a.
You're trying to hit theaverage of your viewing
viewership and you just have toaccept the fact that you're
going to piss off 50% ofeverybody every single time.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
All right, this is going to be our last question.

Speaker 17 (01:26:02):
Thank you for being here.

Speaker 5 (01:26:05):
When you guys go on your vacations do you just not
want to film anything?
Just have time for yourselves.

Speaker 15 (01:26:15):
Okay good, and how do you determine when it's a
vacation and when it's not?

Speaker 9 (01:26:25):
When we land in jamaica.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
We, sheila and I, just did a cruise, just the two
of us, for the first time sincewe've left and in four years did
not film anything.
And there was some.
If you know us and you know thestories, there's some crazy
things that happened on thattrip, um, but the fact is, is we
needed, uh, to be away?

Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
I for you we have to intentionally plan it.
Otherwise, even though wedidn't plan on, we took the, we
took the camera, we just didn'tpick it up.
But we we need to justintentionally plan that that
camera is not coming out forcontent purposes, because
otherwise your brain justconstantly thinks well, how,
what we're doing today, what isthat content?

(01:27:11):
So you just have to.
We had to just be intentionally, say this is a vacation and
it's odd, because people arelike but you live the vacation
lifestyle.
They will all agree that thisis the rv lifestyle, but we have
jobs.
Our youtube is a job.
I was gonna say for us it's thecamera goes or doesn't go, that
this is the RV lifestyle, butwe have jobs YouTube is a job.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
I was going to say for us it's the camera goes or
doesn't go.
I mean, if I'm on vacation andI want to document something,
phone that's for me, and so ifthe camera goes, it's a work
trip, essentially.

Speaker 8 (01:27:40):
For us it's normally if we're around family, If we're
with our parents or kids orsomething, then we just don't
even film at all.
We just won't put a video outthat week.

Speaker 6 (01:27:51):
Maria and I.
It's a weekly decision.
I've got five videos right nowthat are probably 75% to 80%
done and, after doing this fortwo and a half, almost three
years, got burnt out and now Imight do one every couple of
weeks.
Like I didn't film any of thisand I apologize to Todd and

(01:28:14):
Sheila for not posting any of iton social media, but I actually
wanted to, to hang out with youguys and not shove a camera in
your face, and actually hear andbe able to process some of the
stuff that y'all are saying.
Not always did I get the rightangle on that, was I shooting
from the right position, and sowe just wanted to enjoy the

(01:28:34):
rally, and it seems like thatgets longer and longer to where
we.
I don't want to go to anational park and spend all day
filming it.
I want to go enjoy it park andspend all day filming it.
I want to go enjoy it.
That's why we started doingthis, so now we're starting to
scale that back to where weactually pick and choose what we
film and the rest of it wedon't take a camera.

Speaker 13 (01:29:01):
And to caveat on what Clay had said sometimes
burnout happens, sometimes I'mlike I don't want to have my
whole life, like I love you all,but sometimes I just want us to
go to dinner, be at acampground somewhere and do
nothing.
Just need that down time todecompress.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
Is your rig like going to vibrate away out there?
That bass is insane.
There's five, like in that newTwisters movie.
It anchors down.
Okay, sorry, just wow, um, okay, so coming up.
Next we have turn it up worlddoing a.
Let's turn it up world, sorrydoing a boondocking seminar.

(01:29:42):
And then we're also, lauren andI, are going to be doing a how
to travel on points, kind of payfor our real life, and how to
use points to get free travel onthe other side by paying that.
So we're going to take a quicklittle break.
So use restaurant, come back,but before you go, thank you
guys, so much for coming in thequestions and if we could give
it, ryan, for our panel.

Speaker 5 (01:29:58):
I think the roadsmiths have made their
appearance, hey.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Well, as you could hear, there was no lack of
stories with this panel.
We had an absolute blast doingthis panel with everybody and we
hope that you enjoyed theseepisodes coming from the united
rally.
If you did attend the unitedreality, if you did attend the
united rally, thank you so muchfor showing up.
We really loved getting to see,talk, take pictures and just

(01:30:38):
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