RV Travel Tales & Tech Tips: Mishaps, Dreams, and Connectivity Adventures - From the United Rally - RV Shenanigans! Podcast from Millers in Motion

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This week's episode was recorded live and in person
at the 2025 United Rally.
Boy, did we have fun.
But before we get too deep intoit, let's jump into this week's
RV Shenanigans podcast.
Welcome back to the RVShenanigans podcast.

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My name is Ryan and, along withmy wife Lauren, we are Millers
in Motion.
We're excited to bring you thisepisode today because we were
able to record this episode, aswell as next week's episode, as
one of the panels.
So this panel was comprised ofthe Airstreamer Life in the Slow

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Lane.
Let's Turn it Up World SweetTravels, our Everyday Getaway
Over the Hill Adventures andSwitch it Up.
If you did attend the UnitedRally, you already know what's
going to happen, but you canrelive some of that fun and
excitement that we sharedtalking all things this week.
We also talk a little bit aboutYouTube.
We talk a lot about Alaska andhow some of these different

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YouTube channels travel.
In addition, we had some greatquestions from the audience.
So please enjoy this liverecorded episode from the United
Rally.
All right, so we have a coupleof little kind of basic topics
we're going to cover In thisanswer some questions.
If you have some YouTubequestions, we can hit those as

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well, but I'm going to open thiswhole thing up as just an open
question, so whoever wants toanswer this, feel free to jump
in.
What was the absolute worstnon-documented travel incident
you had with your RV Means?
It has not hit a YouTubechannel, instagram, nothing.

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I guess I need to unmute him.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I think I'll let Dave .

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Hallelujah.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
Hallelujah, hallelujah.
Okay, oh sure she gives us oneto me, let's see.
So the worst undocumented eventin rv um, yeah, this one.
We rented an RV it was actuallya Winnebago View and when we
picked it up we were assuredthat we were the first ones in
this one.
No one had been in it.
And so we're excited.

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And, for those who know, we havea cassette toilet in our rig,
and so this is one of the firsttimes we've really had a black
tank.
So I was excited to kind of givea, give the black tank a try,
said no one except me, butanyway, so we uh, we're in it

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for a while, and then I had toempty it, and so I, uh, we're at
, uh, an rv park, and when Iinside, I noticed that it seemed
like the valve wasn'tcompletely in all the way you
know the normal valve, and itwas in like maybe two thirds of
the way.
So I thought, oh, maybe this isjust how far it goes, this is
how far it goes, and that wasjust a huge mistake.

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And so I wasn't really thinkingtoo much about it.
I assumed it was actually inall the way, because, hey, no
one else had been in this thing.
And so I went down and Iunscrewed the bottom cap, yeah,
and, as you could imagine, I hadsomeone else's poop all over me
very quickly and I got to tellyou, yeah, I mean, skunks smell

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bad, but I smelled worse and ifI showered I still smelled.
It took a long time to get thatout of me and unfortunately,
tanya, we couldn't reallysnuggle up that night.
Get in the front, get in thefront of the rig.
So yeah, we didn't film that,but that was definitely a fun
event.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Anybody else got one.

Speaker 7 (04:02):
But were you wearing gloves?
Anybody else got one, but wereyou wearing gloves?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
You got it.
One more click Now.

Speaker 8 (04:15):
Hey, there you go.
So, since we're talking aboutcrappy subjects, this is
undocumented.
And so we were at Bolsa ChicaBeach in California, and this is
the first time in our trailerthat this would be our pull, our
bumper pull.
It was the first time I wasgoing to do the black tank and I

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was so nervous because I didn'twant to be like that RV movie
where the poop went spraying allover the like a volcano.
So I wanted to make sure thatwhen I hit the dump station that
nobody was there.
So if in case, anything were tohappen, I would be the clear.
But so we get up to the dumpstation.

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I'm all fancy doing it all realquick, like I know what.
I'm all fancy doing it all realquick like I know what I'm
doing Pull out my sewer hose,get it all connected, and then I
do the big pull and thennothing happens.
And I go what on earth, why isit not coming out?

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And I'm going honey, I justdon't know.
So I go, and I'm going to gocheck the hose.
So I decided to disconnect thehose, come to find out that I
forgot to take out the new plugsin the sewer hose.
So, being the fact that it wasa new RV and it was just our

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poop that was in there, and well, actually I call it Chocolate
Squirrel.
So we got introduced toChocolate Squirrel pretty quick
and so, like I said,undocumented.
But what I would say is thatthe Velterra gate valve is a

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must in every situation.
So make sure, even if you'rerenting it, bring it in your
suitcase or whatever, and justbring it with you, because
inevitably you're going to meetchocolate squirrel.
All right, that's it.

Speaker 1 (06:22):

Speaker 9 (06:24):
Yeah, I think I have one for you.
A couple of months ago, annaand I were in Branson, missouri,
and we have a tendency to trustour GPS a little too much.
We have the Garmin GPS, a lotof us have it.
You know, you put in yourlength, your weight, your height
, and it's supposed to keep youon the right street.
Well, for the most part theyget it right.

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But what we have learned iswhen you get into the community
that you're going to, theyseldom get it right.
Turn right, turn left.
It'll tell you to turn rightand your destination is on the
left.
You can clearly see it.
Well, anyways, we're drivingthrough town, bumping along, and
I'm telling Nana I said youknow what, this just doesn't

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look right.
I don't like where we're at.
It tells me to turn right.
I look right.
That's kind of like aresidential area, not where a
campground should be.
So I look at her, she looks atme and we say what do you think?
She says we'll make the turn.
So I make the turn.
We get halfway down the street.
Now I know we're in trouble,because now I'm supposed to turn

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left and this is like thestreets of San Francisco, I mean
, we're going up and down to thepoint where the back of the
trailer is starting to drag whenI hit the bottom and need to go
back up.
So now I'm looking for a wayout.
I can't turn left and I can'tturn right on all these other
streets and need to go back up.
So now I'm looking for a wayout.
I can't turn left and I can'tturn right on all these other
streets.
Every other street is a one-waystreet, which even makes it

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worse.
So we're heading down thisstreet and I see an out on the
left and I want to turn left butI can't because the angle of
the street and the turn is sosharp that I told her I think
the trailer would tip over if Ihang a left here I really do and
maybe if I go really, reallyfast no, no, let's not do that.

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So I back out of the turn and Igot it straight and I continue
to drive down this street theonly street that I can be on and
I see an out up in front of us.
So I keep driving to it and I'mdriving to it and the streets
are getting smaller and smallerand now I have cars parked on
both sides.
I have about three feet on thedriver's side, about three feet

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on the passenger's side, and Isay, oh, there's that cross
street, I can get down there andI can turn out and get out of
this thing, right.
Nope, it's a dead end.
It's a dead end and the GPSsays go straight.
So you know, when you're out onthe road you need a couple of
GPSs besides the Garmin.

(09:01):
So we run, what is that otherone?
Now we're running, uh, atgoogle.
Yeah, we use a couple of themnow, uh, so that that doesn't
happen to us.
So now I'm stuck at the end ofthis street with nowhere to go,
but back in a sixty three footlong rig that weighs forty,000

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pounds.
So take a deep breath and startbacking up.
Right, I backed up.
How far?
Okay, I don't want toexaggerate, anna, tell them how
far did I back up?
At least a quarter mile.
So I backed up on this street aquarter of a mile before I
could find a place that I wantedto turn out.

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But before that happened,people are getting mad at me
that live on both sides becausethey can't get out of their
driveways.
Not only can they not get outof their driveways, but they
can't even get off the streetbecause they're in front of me.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
There was a lady trying to pull out.
She was screaming at us becauseshe couldn't get her car out.
We're trying to pull out andshe was screaming at us because
she couldn't get her car out.
We're trying to back up.

Speaker 9 (10:10):
So I got people on both sides mad at me because I'm
there, I got a guy behind methat doesn't want to back up and
I have to go back to him andexplain to him why he has to
back up.
So we finally worked it out.
Anyways, after backing up aquarter of a mile and finally
making that turn and getting outof there, we took a deep breath

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and said Well, we were out ofgas at that point.
You know it just keeps gettingbetter.
I forgot about that, you know,Because we go rolling into town
and I tell Ann, I said we canmake it to our camp spot, this
is no problem.
But when you get lost andyou're on these streets and
you're going up and down and youuse more fuel and I don't know

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where my fuel pickup is, Is itin the front of the tank, the
back of the tank?
Am I going to run out of gasgoing up and down these hills?
So, anyways, we get out ofthere and then I get back on the
main street.
Now I need gas.
Where do you get gas?
In a 63-foot-long rig inBranson, Missouri.
There's no place to go.
So I find a parking lot, I dropthe trailer, I go to a gas

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station, I put in 50 gallons, Icome back and hook up the
trailer and we finally make itto our spot.
What about Two or three hourslate?

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, about a couple hours later and he wouldn't let
me film any of this.
I tried, ladies and gentlemen,he would not let me.

Speaker 9 (11:36):
Well, you know, sometimes it's.
I mean, it would have beengreat.
I can just see it.
Right now she sets the cameraoff on one of the side streets
and you see this rig backing up.
I can just picture it.
I know it would have been great, but at the time it just didn't
feel right.
So that's our little horrorstory for now.

Speaker 1 (11:57):

Speaker 7 (12:00):
I'll give one.
Todd and Sheila are realfamiliar with this one please
tell me it's about Todd.

Speaker 10 (12:10):
It is perfect no, no , it's not.
We shared that.

Speaker 7 (12:15):
This was his story to tell so we're at the Tampa RV
show together.
We're parked at the fairgroundsand if any of you have been to
fairground parking, your sewercan be over there and your
water's over there and yourelectric's behind you.

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So we had a great time withTodd and Sheila at the show.
Kelly and I are going to maddash to court site as soon as
the show is over.
So I told Kelly.
I said let's go out and let'sdump the tanks and get
everything flushed out so we canleave early.
Okay, so I pull my sewer hoseout, hook it up.

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I'm 10 foot short.
This is not a crap story, bythe way.
So I told Kel.
I said all right, let's goahead and hook up and pull
forward so the sewer hose canreach.
We'll just get this all takencare of.

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So she comes out.
She's a great spotter, by theway.
She comes out, I get hooked upback into the hitch, pull up the
jacks.
10 feet, that's all I got to go10 feet.
I pull the truck forward, crash.
Guess what we forgot to do?

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The tug test.
The nose of our brand-new fifthwheel comes down and hits the
truck.
About the same time as I heardthe crash, todd's running out of
his rig.
What the heck happened.
You remember that, not document.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
In fact, I wouldn't even document that for six weeks
I was so embarrassed it washeartbreaking and that is why
most of our videos, when we'reback and you know we're hooking
up, I always say don't forgetthe tug test, don't do what we
did.
Check it every time, even ifit's ten feet.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
And what did I say?
Never going back to Tampa.

Speaker 10 (14:31):
The funny part is that Jason, who's running around
with a camera right now, wassitting in the rig.
We're sitting in the rig andnext door it was the loudest
thing and I saw Kelly's face andhow just distraught and the
thing about being in YouTube,like we do carry cameras around,

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like you just shared, like thatthere's sometimes you don't
want to film, and it would havebeen a million view video.
It would have been becausepeople would have wanted, like
they would want, to see it.
And I looked at Jim and and Isaid none of us are shooting
video because out of respect tobeing in that moment that it was

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hurt, like it hurt like ourhearts to see their rig damaged
and and to know that it wasgoing to be okay and and stuff.
So we joke about it now becauseit's easy, but I could see
Kelly's face and how like itreally hurt it was.
It was a hurtful moment and soyeah, yeah it was.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
It was devastating, yeah, especially with its brand
new and everything.
We were so excited and and thenwe had to get the tape out and
tape the sucker, because therewas a big hole and it was wet
you know the weather and and,and then we had to.
Then we had to go through asnowstorm to get to elk city,
oklahoma, which is why we alwayssay stay south of i-10, don't

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go north of i-10, because youhit the snow.
And we had one excuse, mylanguage, one hell of a
snowstorm, ice storm.
And we had our friends with usand we said don't follow us.
But they did, thank goodness.
But always do a tug test,please, don't forget it.
It's so important because youjust never know when that

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sucker's going to come down andmake it.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
I feel like we've talked a lot about destruction
and poop A lot.
That's part of it.
It is part of it exactly.
So, with that being said, I dohave a question specifically for
Chris and Katrina because youguys went to this place that can
literally destroy a rig if youdo it wrong and if you don't
mind, because you guys did it ina way that I think people is
becoming more common now as faras, like, the getting it.

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You talk about Alaska yes, Iwas trying to let you talk about
it?
Yeah, but you guys took measuresa Step further than just
retrofitting your RV to make itokay to go.

Speaker 12 (17:03):
You guys, full-on, just said yeah, for those of you
who don't know, we have a 39foot class a diesel pusher and
we decided to go to alaska.
We were invited from by our,some friends of ours.
Well, I'd heard all the horrorstories.
You know what could happen.
We decided to get a smaller rig.
So we got a class c.

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Uh, winnebago trend no slides,nothing, we figured.
We figured, without the slides,no jacks, we're cutting back on
the chances something could gowrong.
So we took the smaller rig andwe went up to Alaska and
actually it was fantastic and wereally had no problems, no
issues.
A few dinks and dents here andthere.

Speaker 13 (17:46):
Except when the heat went out.
We had no heat up there for awhile.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
In.
Alaska.
I don't think that was a bigdeal.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
That wasn't a big deal, it was all good.

Speaker 12 (17:54):
It was fine.
You know it was fine, it wasokay.
But no, and actually now thatwe've been up there and we
experienced it and we met others, folks who drove up there in
your larger Class A dieselpushers, your fifth wheels we
realized that in hindsight wecould have taken the Class A up

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there if we wanted to.
It would have been a find.
I don't think it's as bad as alot of folks make it out to be,
and I think a lot of it comesdown to just taking your time
and you're going to be okay.
But the one thing that was niceabout taking the small rig was
we just had the ability to goanywhere and we could just pull
over at all these great,fantastic spots and boondock.

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So that worked out.
In hindsight I think it workedout and ended up being a better
thing, because it would havebeen a little bit more difficult
to find those sweet boondockingspots with a larger rig.
But yeah, it worked out great.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Did you hit any spots where you said, ooh, there's no
way with the Class A, or evenwith the little one, where you
just said you know what?
That's too far for us.

Speaker 12 (18:54):
Not that I can remember Anything you can
remember.

Speaker 13 (18:56):
I think some of the boondocking spots would have
been tight for the larger rig.
And again, we were also veryfortunate because the couple
that we traveled with he was atRV Tech, so we he fixed anything
so y'all cheated.
You see that it worked out.
It worked out fine.
He happened to have a boardwhen our heat went out.
I mean it was yes, so yeah, Imean.

Speaker 12 (19:17):
I think, once again, I think it's nice to take the
smaller rig up there.
But if you have a larger rigand you're thinking about it and
you're you have, you'rehesitant because it's a larger
rig, it can be done.
It can be done.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
So I just randomly, because there's two specific
couples on here that I wouldimagine probably wouldn't want
to take their rig for slightlydifferent reasons.
So I want to know from ToddSheila and Airstream would you
guys consider taking yourcurrent setups to Alaska,
because I can imaginepotentially getting any damage
on the Airstream?
Sounds terrifying.
And well, todd, you guys arehuge, potentially getting any
damage on the airstream soundsterrifying and well, todd, you

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guys are huge.
What do you think?

Speaker 14 (20:01):
right.
Actually I think I think wewould take the airstream up
there without any issue.
Might want to put thethree-inch lift kit on it, but
actually I think our setup rightnow we would be fine.
We've been in some pretty diceysituations with it and some
mountain stuff and actually theworst was going through

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Shreveport, louisiana, kind ofon the way here, but that was
probably the worst.
So, yeah, we would take theairstream up there for sure.

Speaker 12 (20:32):
I mean, we were at one campground and a fellow had
a prevo up there no problems, noissues.
And we would talk to some ofthe other rvers that had the
larger rigs and we asked themyou guys experience, have any
problems?
And almost every one of themsaid no problems at all, as long
as you get.
When you get to the bad, justslow down and take it easy.
Another thing to keep in mindis a lot of times the traffic

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coming the other way, especiallythe truckers, don't care, so
they're just blowing through.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Especially on gravel roads.
They kick stuff up at you,absolutely.
Yeah, todd Sheila, would youguys take the big mama up there?

Speaker 15 (21:07):
Absolutely not.
Would you guys take the bigmama up there?
Absolutely not.
No, I think we could do a rigswap with Dave and Tanya and
then they can stay in EmeraldCity in our big rig and we'll
take your Echo and go.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
And we'll never come back.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I would actually really.
I think that could be a greatvideo.
Let Dave drive it.

Speaker 10 (21:28):
I just want to see that Rig swap.
Yeah, yeah, let Dave drive it.
I just want to see that Rigswap.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, rig swap yeah, but the wives have to drive.

Speaker 10 (21:36):
You'll hide it.
Yeah, the thing is, I'vewatched a number of your videos
like people going to Alaska.
It's like we don't have anydesire to make the drive.
I know it sounds goofy for RVlife, but we have the desire to
probably fly up, rent somethingand then go tour around and then
fly back because that journeygoing up and and stuff, I I

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guess.
And there's another thing thatwe don't know and I don't know
jim, you might know this, but Idon't know.
We've been told, once you crossthe, the canadian border, that
we're in.
We're a non-commercial cdldriver.
I'm a non-commercial class aand I think, once you go into
canada, and I don't know, Ithink you have to have an air

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endorsement, which means no, youdon't.
Well, when we pull up, wouldthey not question like, wait a
minute, this looks like a semi.
No, you don't think so.
Have you done it?
So they didn't question whetheryou had okay, well then, we're
still not doing it, we're.

Speaker 12 (22:36):
I was looking for an excuse you know I I can
understand somebody not wantingto make the drive, but if you
enjoy that part of rv life, ifyou do drive, I'm telling you
all the drive is memorable andGod speaks to you when you make
that drive and you see what.
You see I'm telling you I'mserious and it's a beautiful

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drive.
I'm glad I did it.
I would never do it again.
I would fly into Alaska and doa cruise.
But as far as the drive, I'mglad I did it because it's some
great memories.

Speaker 10 (23:08):
You crossed it off your bucket list, right.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
So Kelly and I have made that trip 13 times.
The roads in New Mexico areworse than the Alcan.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I think if you can drive on Route 40 here you can
do Alaska.

Speaker 12 (23:25):
Don't let all the negative stuff prevent you from
going up there, because it's notas bad as people make it out to
be.
To Alaska.
Don't let all the negativestuff prevent you from going up
there, because it's not as badas people make it out to be.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
So, just by show of hands out in the audience, who
has been up to Alaska in theirRV and who hasn't?
Okay, so, just Sorry, who hasbeen up to Alaska?
Let's start with that one.
Okay, so, not as many.
Who wants to go to Alaska intheir rig?
Who has a rig now that theywould take to Alaska?

(23:56):
What are you waiting on?
Yeah, we're here.

Speaker 10 (24:01):
Talk to no Sticks, no Bricks.
They're doing a 2026 caravan.
They can only take 10 people orso.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
When's the Fairbanks huddle?

Speaker 10 (24:10):
Yeah, no.

Speaker 15 (24:15):
I'm curious on the other direction.
I'm a more.
I like the heat.
How many people have been toBaja?

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Has anybody up here been toBaja?
You guys can't.

Speaker 10 (24:27):
Another rig swap situation in it.

Speaker 15 (24:28):
That's another rig swap situation, isn't it?
But that's more of an issue forthe person.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, so does anybody , just for the audience, be
thinking of questions?
Because we're getting to thatpoint where this is about to
open up, so we want you to comeup here and ask these guys some
questions too.
But does anybody have anybucket list destinations that
they are absolutely like got todo in the next, let's say,
handful of years?

Speaker 2 (24:54):
well, we did.
A one I thought was reallyenjoyable for us is we did a
month in japan in an rv and westarted in the northern islands,
did a little winter camping andwent through tokyo and a bunch
of different spots and we'vedone done Iceland in a camper
van around the.
Golden Circle and Ring Road, sowe hit a lot of places and one
of the biggest things with us iswe've always been nimble

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boondockers, which is why wehave the size rig that we have.
We've always loved wintercamping and I'm sure a lot of
you guys have seen those videos.
We like it, so we don't mindthe cold, we don't mind the cold
, we don't mind the challenge.
And I think the biggest thingis you have to feel really
comfortable with the rig thatyou're in, regardless of what
anybody says or does.
You have to be comfortable bothof you, the women and the men,

(25:36):
because if something happens tohim, you want to make sure you
know how to drive that thingyourself and not have to learn
how to drive it quickly in arough situation.
At least just have afamiliarity, but yeah, if
anybody out there wanted to doit.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Do you have any like quick tips as far as like
renting or just the process ofactually doing that?
For just going internationaland renting an rv and doing that
like just the big stuff, likeoh, I didn't know that that'll
be coming up in the uh seminar,so make sure you join everybody
attending um.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
We'll see you then.

Speaker 15 (26:04):
Thank, you good job, plug Good job.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Does anybody else have any bucket lists?

Speaker 12 (26:09):
Yeah, it would be the Albuquerque Balloon Festival
, it would be the five in Utah,the five parks, and it would be
the Bourbon Trail, which, yeah,I'm so giddy up Going to the
Bourbon Trail.
I could do that, but then therewas.
I think that's pretty much.
Yeah, that's pretty much it.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, the bourbon trail could do that.
I think that's pretty much it.
I don't know if the bourbontrail could handle you being
Mike.
Anybody else bucket list stuffIs that in an RV or no?
Well, if you have a non-RV one,go for it.

Speaker 10 (26:43):
I said RV, but do you have a non-RV bucket list?
You have a microphone too.
I have a big bucket thingoutside the office too.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Use the mic yes.

Speaker 10 (26:53):
I have a big bucket list of things outside the RV.
I like weird things andSheila's like I'm not doing that
one, so like one.
There's this place.
That's the furthest north pointin America, which is towards
the North Pole.
So you fly up and then you haveto take a truck and go stand on

(27:15):
a glacier in the middle ofnowhere to hit the pole.
I want to see the actual NorthPole.
She doesn't want to do that one.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Just to meet Santa Claus right.

Speaker 10 (27:27):
That's all you want to do it for.
Just to meet Santa Claus, right?
That's all you want to do itfor.
And then, if anyone'sinterested, I want to take, like
I've done, this trip on theAmazon River, where you get on a
boat and you live on the boaton the Amazon River on the top
deck.
Sheila's like I'm not doingthat, so it might be a man's
trip.
So if anyone wants to go on anAmazon trip with me, you can do
that.

Speaker 15 (27:45):
The reason why I'm not going Cold, no, no, no, no,
no, no.
Where they take a shower.

Speaker 10 (27:55):
On the Amazon.

Speaker 15 (27:56):
In the Amazon.
Yeah, is the same water thatyou flush your black tank stuff
in, and it just recirculates.
That seems no, thank you.

Speaker 10 (28:09):
It's a man strip if you want to swim.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Well, for ladies, I actually did something I thought
was really cool.
I did two weeks in Antarctica.
So you fly into Ushuaia,Argentina, you do the Drake's
Passage and then you come out,you take the Zodiacs and it's an
amazing experience.
It's cold, but the summer timesare nothing different than the
winter times here.

(28:33):
You know 30 degrees, whatever,20-something degrees, and as
long as you're prepared for it,I think the experiences and
being able to see the penguinsand learn about the wildlife and
I'm an official ambassadorbecause I got a stamp over there
so I'm feeling pretty good.
Thank you very much.
So that's a bucket.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Does that mean diplomatic community here now or
no?
You're dealing with time doesanybody else have any bucket
list stuff?

Speaker 14 (28:59):
I guess non-rv is a thing now too yeah, we were just
talking about and one of ourbucket lists for a long time has
been the pacific northwest andum.
So we're and in fact we justgot confirmed yesterday and
today one of the things I don'tknow if you this life is not
less expensive than living in asticks and bricks, and we

(29:19):
figured that out, um prettyquick.
So we've decided to do quite abit of work, camping and
actually that's to fulfill ourdream of the pacific northwest.
We just got hired in to be oneof the people working at Crater
Lake National Park, so we'regoing to be there actually
pretty much this whole summer,so that'll fill that in for us.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
And now, everyone, I think you can, if you're going
to film in those places, you'reable to film in those places
again.
So welcome back to NationalPark Filming.

Speaker 14 (29:46):
Yeah, the Explore Act passed.
That was a big thing because Ido photography work too and
professional photography workand have a channel on that and
that's been a big thing with meabout the national parks and
we've been avoiding nationalparks.
And now with the Explore Actbeing passed, now that frees it
up for small creators, as longas you're not a movie studio

(30:07):
under six Sorry, todd and Sheila're not a movie studio Under
six.
Sorry, todd and Sheila.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Sheila, were you gonna say something?

Speaker 15 (30:16):
I was just gonna.
I didn't know you were gonna bethere.
We have a.
We're bringing a huddle to theCrater Lake this summer, so
we'll come and see you.
Great.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
So I'm gonna ask one more question, but do me a favor
, if you have questions, if youwant to start thinking about
maybe coming up to the mic asthey kind of wrap up mine.
We're going to starttransitioning, so we want to
make sure that these guys cananswer any questions you guys
have as well.
With all these bucket listtrips and stuff we're talking
about, is there anything in theRV itself, besides buying a new
one, that you would like to have, like tech or anything else

(30:49):
that happens to be in the RVthat you think is crucial for
the trip?
Like, was there anything forAlaska besides a new RV that
you're like we need to have this?

Speaker 13 (30:58):
We should have had heated floors.
I'm just saying, it's cold.

Speaker 15 (31:05):
You can't boondock with heated floors, why it runs
too much power.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Or you get more power .

Speaker 12 (31:13):
You have to run the generator.
I would say Starlink.
In my experience Starlink To beable to just pull over in spots
where there's no cell and justfire up to Starlink and you're
good to go.
Does anybody?

Speaker 1 (31:24):
have Go ahead Sorry.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Okay, we were prepping for our Alaska trip
this summer and in doing so, oneof the things that we needed to
do was raise the bottom of ourRV, because it did sit quite low
to the ground and we wereworried about those frosties.
So he took the rig in to havethe jacks lifted and he had the

(31:51):
more right independentsuspension drop so that it would
allow more ground clearance.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
so that was something that we had had to do and have
done in order to prep for thattrip so that actually brings a
good point, because is thereanything that you wish you have
for when you travel around thecountry on your rigs, for the
actual travel side of it, likeif you have a trailer, like an
independent suspension, or ifyou have a motor home air ride
more stuff?
I don't know much aboutmotorhomes.

(32:17):
Does anybody have anything?

Speaker 7 (32:21):
by the way, I'm coming to questions soon, so
somebody wants to come up hereyeah, I would like to see the
production companies that makeproduction coaches not custom
but production put in minisplits.

Speaker 10 (32:41):
That would be less energy, more comfort, less power
.
Okay, I need to address themini split situation.
We love the mini splits on ACmode, the mini splits.
To give you an idea, we have30.3 kilowatts on solar, so it's
eight.
300 amp hour lithium batteries.

(33:02):
Okay, running heat?
No bueno, give you an idea, wecan run the ACs on mini splits
for like three days, no problem,keep it cool.
You fire up the heater on a minisplit and seven hours dead.

(33:23):
So they consume more energy, Ibelieve, on the side when you're
using them, on the heatcapacity, and they run non-stop.
And so, sheila, there's beentimes where she's like I don't
know if I like this, it justfeels cold.
And so I think, if you're goingto go that route the aqua hot

(33:48):
system and you're trying to getaway from using a lot of the
propane and stuff aqua hot,running a diesel, and then that
running that whole heatingsystem might be a better way for
the heat component, and thenrunning, you know, then you're
always trying to run little.
You know heaters, electricalheaters.

(34:08):
Well, that just sucks morejuice as well.
So we do have heated floors ina certain part of it, but when
we set it up, I just don't knowif the mini split.
Sorry, long answer, but I don'tknow if the mini split works
great for heat.
That's just been thoughtprocess.

Speaker 15 (34:25):
Ac is absolutely lights out it's quiet, less
space on the roof, like there'sa lot of value there, less
energy and for days I bet it'smore than three days that we
could go, but the heat I'm notsure we love that solution.

Speaker 10 (34:45):
Just a different perspective.
We didn't know that until weput it in.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Has any of you all looked at possibly doing the
Furion Cube, which is kind oflike that in-between with the
variable compressor?
Okay, well, we had it on ourcoach we just sold.
So, if you have questions, notreally my panel, but so it was
actually great.
So it's a variable compressor,so it's designed like a
mini-split but it's roof-mountedin more of a traditional RV

(35:12):
sense and so what it does is thefan fan.
I think they said they ratedthe fan to run consistently for
like 15 years or something likethat sales sheet stuff.
So who actually knows?
Um, but for us, because we hada pretty robust solar system on
on the rig it, it did a greatjob, it actually cooled.
So if they make the equivalentover to like the coleman's, it
essentially was about an 18k perunit.

(35:35):
We had all three of them.
Now we didn't.
We had to do non ducted becauseat the time we were testing it
they didn't have a ducted, whichthey do now.
We tested it in August in Texas.
It was 105 degrees outside andwhen we, right before we put
them on, we had reflectics inall of our windows the things we
do, right, reflectics in allthe windows.
We had a toy hauler, so theramp door was up.

(35:55):
We did everything to keep Peteout the best we could and we
would get to about 82 in the riggive or take at the kind of
prime of the day if you're fullsun.
So fast forward.
A few weeks later we have thoseon.
I decided to put the ramp doordown.
It was 101 outside.
I put the ramp door down, tookall the reflectics out and put
all the ACs at about 60 degreesand I left for four hours, took

(36:16):
the dog somewhere, just wantedto come back.
It was 65 degrees in the rigwhen I got back.
So they push more like thattraditional 20 degrees from
outside thing that the Coleman'shave.
It definitely pushes more andit keeps it cold.
And the power consumption, atleast from the RV side.
Now this is all through thatVictron Servo GX, so don't go
exactly on the numbers, but atmax consumption at least what I

(36:38):
thought it was blowing, it onlyused about 900 watts.
Now it can't control heat atall, but we left our thermostat
from the AirXL one so that itwould control our furnace.

Speaker 15 (36:50):
I was just going to say regarding the heat pump,
though, we were in Kansas City.
It is 19 degrees or whateverit's doing fine here, it's in
that minute.

Speaker 9 (37:02):
I was talking to a RV tech and a builder Actually it
was Lux.
We were talking to them aboutsome options and what to do and
how to build one, and there wassomething that came up on the
mini splits that I had neverthought of and that's that the
mini splits are traditionallydesigned to be in your home, not

(37:23):
in an RV.
An RV is bouncing down the road,it's an earthquake going down
the road and it never stopsshaking and the mini splits,
from what I have been told, andthe mini splits from what I have
been told, are not built toabsorb the harmonics as it's
bouncing down the road in an RVand that they were having
problems with that and warrantyproblems with that, and it was

(37:46):
hard to get people out to workon them because the people that
were working on the mini splitsdidn't want to go to work on a
trailer that had the mini splitbecause they didn't understand
it and it was just somethingthat was different.
So I don't know if they'vestarted designing mini splits
for RVs.
I think it's a great idea.
I would love to see it, I wouldlove to have it, anna and I

(38:09):
have talked about it, but Ithink there's a little extra
work that needs to go in it tomake it more reliable and more
suitable for the vibration ofthe RV travel.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Well, and Todd, where do you guys have yours mounted?
Is it like on a sidewallsomewhere?

Speaker 10 (38:23):
Well, the problem is we're custom, so it's not
apples to oranges, right, theydo now make a mini split that
can sit towards the front, orthey can do adaptive.
They do have that now.
Ours is actually New Horizonmounts it on the side so it
ducks out.
That's what they do for aspacecraft as well.
So it's easy when you're doingcustom stuff.

(38:44):
But to retrofit into a currentum, drv or whatever they do have
now kits that can work.
It's just it's pros and cons,anything we're doing in the RV
space, right.
So I don't know if it's theend-all to be-all for everything
, but it does.
It's so much better andefficient for AC stuff.

Speaker 7 (39:05):
So the latest rumor we heard was that Lippert is
currently working.
Yeah, yeah, but the latest weheard is that Lppert is actually
working on a set right now.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, we heard that as well.
It's kind of in conjunctionwith the cube and then that matt
.
Yeah, it's a whole thing.
So does anybody have anyquestions for the panel?

Speaker 10 (39:27):
really, there you go let's do it, go there's.
There's a microphone Right overthere.
Step on up.

Speaker 14 (39:37):
Hello.
Okay, so I have an appointmentset for more.
I had to do independentsuspension.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 14 (39:43):
And just curious how many of you up there have had
that done and pros and cons.

Speaker 9 (39:50):
Well, after we got our rig, it had the standard
Dexter 7,000-pound axles.
We have a Grand Design 376 THSit's the big momentum toy hauler
and it had the Dexter7,000-pound axles and within a
year I was breaking all the wetbolts.
I broke the leaf spring twice.

(40:14):
The third axle is just a killeron a toy hauler.
You're at low speeds and you'remaking a turn or you're backing
up, the tires don't really roll, they just drag.
So you're always breaking stuffback there and it was just a
constant problem.
So I called Moride right awayand I made an appointment to
take it in because I reallydidn't see that we really had a

(40:35):
realistic option.
The trailer was just bouncingdown the road.
It was terrible and it tookwhat?
14 months to get it in there.
To get it done that was theirbackup was 14 months.
That was a couple of years agoand it's just win-win.
I just couldn't be happier withit.

(40:56):
You hear all the stories.
You know I left somethingsitting on the counter, right,
you think it's a commercial, butyou know we've really had stuff
like that happen.
The trailer just floats downthe road.
It makes a tremendousdifference, along with the air
ride hitch.
That's the reason that we thinkthat we've done so well with
our momentum.
And what?

(41:16):
Yeah, we haven't had anyproblems that you hear about.
You hear about all the horrorstories with FrameFlex and all
that.
Anna and I have been veryfortunate, but we've also made a
significant investment intrying to get away from that and
I also try to keep from doingstupid stuff.
It doesn't always work.
Like I said, I had to back up aquarter of a mile, but I try

(41:40):
not to drive it in and out ofholes.
You know stuff like that and ofcourse, that always helps.
The trailers can only take somuch, but the MORryde straight
up all day long.
I wouldn't even hesitate.
They're worth the money.
If you're going to stay in yourrig, you're going to live in it
, you're going to travel thecountry.
It's just win-win.
I can't imagine a downside tothat.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Did anybody else have it?
I know some of you are indrivables.

Speaker 7 (42:07):
Yeah, we've had it in both our DRVs and I wouldn't be
without it.
Similar story we were on atravel day stop.
Kelly went back to use thebathroom and there's her cup of
coffee from that morning stillsitting on the bathroom counter.
Not, still didn't spill.

(42:27):
Yeah, we wouldn't be without it.

Speaker 10 (42:29):
Quick question on that, just me With the MoRide.
Nobody talks about this elementand I'm just curious.
There is an alignment You'resupposed to do an alignment.
Is that once a year, twice ayear?
I mean, if people are going todo that, that is a component
nobody addresses.
So is that something that's arequirement for MoRide?

(42:51):
So is that something that's arequirement for MoRide?

Speaker 7 (42:53):
It's not a requirement, but a lot of it
depends on how you drive, howyou corner, how much you back up
, how tight you are.
We have had ours.
We typically have ours alignedonce every couple years, there
you go.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
I was going to say we had it on our Valor 2, and it's
just like anything else.
Look at your tire tread,because what will happen is
you'll see it start to wear in adifferent spot and with the
independent suspension it couldbe an alignment thing.
We have them check it.
We'll have them check it.
We don't have the rig anymore,but when we went up there for
the 12 months, you're supposedto maintain it every 12 months,
so we just had them check itanyway, and then they'd say, say

(43:32):
, oh, you're good or no, we needto fix something.

Speaker 10 (43:33):
Just saying, if you're going to do that, I just
want to bring that to attentionbecause nobody ever really talks
about that and I've heard allgreat things, but it is
something for maintenance.
Come on, Paul.

Speaker 7 (43:45):
And it's a $400 to $500 build to have it aligned,
but it's money well worth it,money well spent.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Otherwise you're replacing tires, and I think
it's also important to note toothat the alignment on a trailer,
because they have to hang thishuge contraption off your fifth
wheel pin, you can't just takeit down to your local truck stop
.
They can do it, but I don'tknow how much I would actually.
It's just different, and sothere's only so many people that
more right of authorizedobviously them.
So oh hi, good.

Speaker 6 (44:12):
All right, switching gears a little bit here.
All you people have been inYouTube for a little while now.
For somebody who just wants tostart out and do simple videos,
not grand productions, what is agood video editing bit of
software that doesn't break yourbank?

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Just real quick.
I feel like he called out Jasonreal quick with that grand
editing thing, because he'sright there.

Speaker 12 (44:39):
DaVinci Resolve has a free version and it's very
good and my niece does.
She's into film and everythingand she was the one who told me
go ahead and get DaVinci.
So DaVinci Resolve has a reallygood free version.
Give you everything you need.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
We use CapCut and again, they also have a free
version.
I find it very user-friendly.
I'm old school, I don't know awhole lot about computers and I
was able to pretty much masterit within, I'd say, about three
months.
So CapCut.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
I'd say too, maybe depending on what type of
computer you're using, if you'rean Apple person, even the basic
iMovie is a really efficientone to get started, and some of
their Pre-templates can get yougoing in minutes just loading
your information into iMovie,which is super simple, and you

(45:41):
can always make insignificantchanges, and you can get it
rolling in minutes and you canalmost do it right from your
phone nowadays.

Speaker 8 (45:48):
You know, paul, if you have an HP, they have movies
on there, a program that youcan play with to get started
movies on there, a program thatyou can play with to get started
Before I was fired in editing,it worked really well for me.
It was simple to use Because itwas free and it's already on

(46:09):
your computer.
Like she said, if you've got aMac, do the iMovie, but if you
have an HP or a regular, just goahead and use what they have
just to start before your wifefires you.
But we use Filmora now.
It was cheap and it works forus and we've been using it ever

(46:30):
since and we've been using itnow for four years.
Filmora, yeah, I think they'reat 14 right now and the hack
with that is don't keep onupgrading it Once you're happy
with what you're using.
Maybe 10, 11, 12.
We're at 13 now.
We like 13.

(46:50):
And we're not upgrading anymoreand we're staying with it.
So because once you learn thetype of editing programming that
you're using, you're probablygoing to stay with it, of course
, until your wife fires you, andthen you'll go to another one.
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Okay.

Speaker 19 (47:16):
I also would second, besides iPhone, ipad and and
the Mac, when you come to iMovie, and then on top of that
there's also Fusion, if you wantto go a little bit more
powerful on the iPad.
One other comment on a previoustopic on MORIDE.
I had MORIDE done, definitelyagree, fantastic.
But if you have them, move yourKodiak existing disc brakes

(47:39):
over within 2,000 miles.
I had a backing plate come offand spin and stuck me in Salt
Lake City with a vice crap.
Oh, by the way, anyone everhave a broken brake line, your
immediate, immediate fix is apair of vice grips to get you
home.
But anyway, if anyone's movingexisting brakes, definitely make
those Very nice people inElkhart double-check that damn

(48:01):
it.
Everything is actually tight.
I mean I love it now that I hadto tear it apart and fix it
when I got home, but it also Iherniated a disc dealing with
that emergency repair in SaltLake City.
So my question really is to you, todd, relative to your heat
pump, because on our Coleman'swe don't have heat strips.
I'm just wondering if you havea heat strip in your heat pump

(48:23):
and if you can see if that'sbeing activated.
And that's why you're actuallykilling your battery so quickly
because you're trying to run itat 19 degrees.
The heat pump's not efficientenough and therefore it's firing
up basically a coil insidethere to actually try to heat
you.
Do you actually have anysetting on the nut?

Speaker 10 (48:41):
that you know I'm not smart enough to answer that
question.
We've had this RV eight monthsand it does things that I've
never thought of doing, like ifyou looked at our water
filtration system you'd be likewhat is going on there?
So I don't know, but it issomething I want to talk to
spacecraft about when we go downto see them on this weekend,

(49:03):
because I was like this doesn'tmake sense to me so my theory is
it has a heat strip becauseit's probably a residential
system and that's the backupwhen you get really cold yeah my
mom in west virginia.
It is a residential system yeahbecause, if you walk up to it,
not only do we have threedifferent units, there's a unit
downstairs that monitors thetemperature of the battery and

(49:25):
it heats and cools to make surethe batteries are at the prime
temperature.
So it does way more than Iprobably even comprehend.

Speaker 19 (49:33):
It mostly has a heat strip, but you can definitely
ask them about that, because itdoesn't want a residential
person to have frozen pipes.
Yes, great, Thank you, thankyou.

Speaker 9 (49:40):
Jerry, one of the other things the gentleman
mentioned changing his brakesover from, maybe, drum to disc,
something that I've seen happenand it's a little heads up for
everybody out there.
If you have drum brakes and youchange over to the disc brakes
or the kodiaks, a thing you needto be careful for is that spare

(50:02):
tire, because you're going tobe out on the road and you're
going to have a flat and youchanged the inner offset of the
braking system when you wentfrom drum to disc and now all at
once, that spare tire that'ssitting under there it doesn't
have the same offset as thetires that's on your trailer.
So pull that spare tire offthere, try to bolt it on that

(50:27):
new system you have and makesure it works before you need it
.

Speaker 16 (50:30):
Don't ask me how I know uh, when you guys publish
and do your Tuesday, thursday,sunday, thank you for allowing
us to sit in front of the TVBecause you guys do them all at
the same time.
But how about active start,soft start for the air

(50:51):
conditioners, anything on that?
I know some people are sayingthey catch on fire and have
issues so soft start.

Speaker 9 (50:58):
We have three soft starts on all three air
conditioners and we're reallyhappy with it.
We can run 30 amps on two ACsall day long and they'll do just
fine.
We can't do anything else.
We are, you know, don't.
Don't try to turn on the TV ora lamp or go into the kitchen

(51:19):
and try and get anything done.
It's just not going to happen.
But the soft starts, they canbe a lifesaver on 30 amps if you
want to run your ACs.
We can run two out of the three.
We have to switch ourrefrigerator over to propane,
but you know that's a smallprice to pay for the AC on 30
amps.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Does anybody else got ?
Oh, there we go.

Speaker 10 (51:47):
Make it a good one, all right.

Speaker 18 (51:49):
Which came first?
The chicken, Chicken, Chicken.
That's right, it's the chicken,no doubt.
Oh my gosh, Chicken.
I was waiting for that one.
I promise you that was notplanned.
I walked into that.
That's right, it's the chicken,no doubt.
Oh my gosh.
I promise you that was notplanned.
I walked into that.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
You're amazing, Sheila.
Do you want to?
Come.
You're amazing.
No, those guys that's scary.

Speaker 18 (52:11):
I'm scared now.
So my question is I don't knowif anybody has a real answer to
this, but with Wi-Fi andconnectivity, is Starlink the
thing?
Is there something coming?
I know there's some otheroptions, but what are your
thoughts about that?

Speaker 4 (52:27):
We have Starlink and we just absolutely love it.
Before we used to always usethe hotspots on our phones and
that got us by fairly wellhotspots and on our phones, and
that got us by fairly well.
But when you need more reliableconnectivity, the starling just
was lightning fast and alwaysconnected and you can have a

(52:49):
whole bunch of devices connectedto it and it just never slows
down.
That's yeah they.
They have a few different sizes.
Also they have a little smallone that you can actually take
backpacking.
So our opinion is we justabsolutely love Starlink and

(53:09):
it's very reliable for us.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Yeah, we have Starlink and we tend to have all
of them.
I think it's just because ofwhat we do and because we are a
small number, we do a lot ofovernights and so trying to hook
up Starlink in a parking lot orthings that nature just doesn't
seem realistic.
So we we have all of them.
But yes, starlink is great.
The Starlink mini, we have thattoo, and what we were like

(53:34):
about that one is it's.
It's always changing, so it mayeventually replace all the hot
spots that we have.
But we've tested, likethroughout the country, which
ones work best.
And at one point we had Verizonand it was amazing.
But then another area ofVerizon sucks and it's like AT&T
works best, and then anotherarea AT&T sucks and then
T-Mobile.
So you're kind of going aroundand when we first got introduced

(53:55):
to Sterling, so we're kind ofgrandfathered into the original
one, so we have access to changeour address anywhere and we
don't get oh gee, baby.
Oh gee, but it actually allowsus to be able to do that.
But the difficult part for thatis we can't stop it.
So when you have the mini andthe newer versions which are

(54:16):
great, if you're not going to beusing it, I think they
smartened up where you're notgoing to pay that extra $150 a
month.
When you're not using it, youcan pause it and then turn it on
when you need it.
And the fact that they'remaking them more nimble, where
you can put them in backpacks oryou can just pop it outside
with a magnet that attaches toyour rig.
These cases it can replace itand I agree with you, it's

(54:36):
probably one of the best pieces.
Um, we've seen them all otherones that say they, they're
comparable, but the ones thatare comparable that are using,
um, each other system, sort oflike uh, what do you call it
piggybacking exactly?
Um, it still has the same issue.
If it's not necessarily workingin a certain area, or if you do
things like the national parksand you're so deep in, there

(54:58):
isn't one to piggyback off of.
So that's it.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
For those of you that went up to Alaska, how was your
connectivity with Starlink onthe way up?

Speaker 12 (55:10):
Almost every place we stopped we had no issues.
And we don't have the built-insystem on the rig yet, but
anywhere I had it set up towhere it was always connected to
the router.
Yeah, and we don't have thebuilt-in system on the rig yet,
but anywhere I had it set up towhere it was always connected to
the router.
I had the wire run into thecable, into the side compartment
, and what I would do is I wouldjust grab the dish, put it out,
point it in the right direction, connect the other end and I

(55:32):
had it powered through theBluetti power station instead of
the house batteries and 99% ofthe time had no issues, no
problems.
I swear by it.
I think it's easy and simple touse and it's very reliable.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
So it's just something that I'm comfortable
with.
One advantage actually ofStarlink Mini versus the
traditional Starlink is reallythe power usage.
If you have a smaller campervan, not as much power and you
do a lot of boondocking,starlink Mini takes up quite a
bit less, almost like half theamount of the power that the
regular Starlink takes.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
That's something that we're kind of interested in
really checking out as well.
They're always adding more andmore satellites, so it's getting
faster, it's getting better,you know.
So we've seen the discouragingwhere we're like, wow, there's
only five starlings and thenthere's like 300 and we're all
kind of trying to write off thesame starlings when they're
hovering over us.
But I mean the satellites.
But they're constantly pumpingin new satellites up there.

(56:32):
I mean, if you get into a darksky, you love looking at stars,
like we do.
You see that trail that lookslike a centipede of starlings
flying by, which we initiallythought was aliens.
But yeah, it is.

Speaker 10 (56:45):
It is the Earth's flat.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Oh, good night.
Look, shayla, do not give himthe mic.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Liar no, I'm kidding, but they're always adding, so I
think it just makes a reallygreat useful device for everyone
and it's super affordable.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
So, real quick, just because we're recording this,
I'm going to repeat the questionDid you have any issues?
I don't know, I forgot what heasked.

Speaker 12 (57:19):
We didn't have.
The only issue I have with myStar League is the motor went
bad, but they replaced it likethat and they delivered it to a
location for me to pick up.
But we had it.
Not only did we have it, butthe couple we went with had it
as well and they didn't sayanything.
It worked just fine.
They didn't say anything, itworked just fine.
No issues at all.

(57:40):
Yeah, that's true, and we kindof just came out one day.
Jacob came over and said do younotice the dishes facing in the
other direction?
I was like no, I didn't notice.
It went over there and shorn upbecause you're so used to
pointing it to the north, and itdid adjust to the south.

Speaker 20 (57:57):
So yeah, but other than that, it worked great.
I have a question for everyonehow many women up here drive and
then out here?
How many women out here driveand those?

Speaker 4 (58:24):
that don't drive.
What's your reason why youhaven't driven?
Or have you thought about anytraining?
I don't drive because it scaresme.
The truck is huge, the rig ishuge and I'm not, and it's just
too big for me.
It intimidates me far too much.
I don't drive because it scaresmy husband.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Chris, would you like to elaborate on your feelings
on that?

Speaker 12 (58:58):
Oh no, oh no, no no.
Captain Kirk is not comfortableletting her pilot the starship.

Speaker 13 (59:05):
It's not happening but he does enjoy when I
chauffeur him around otherwisein the jeep.
That's the trade off.

Speaker 12 (59:13):
Yes, that's true when we get to our location, you
do all the driving don't lookat.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
He loves to drive so I let him try.
I've, bob, tailed it once downthe road and back back to the
end and I think I cried but I, Iwill.
I'm sorry, because I was scared,because I couldn't, you know.
I mean, it's a semi, it's not ajeep or a car.
And so he's like you're doing,fine, keep going, like I'm going

(59:47):
to hit something.
It's our friend's place, so Ididn't want to break a fence.
But I am just like Anna and I'mI'm scared, so I don't.
I really have no desire and Iknow one day he keeps telling me
he's going to throw himselfdown on the ground while we're
driving and then I'm going tohave to do it, of course not in
a busy area.
But I'm like don't you ever dothat to me.

(01:00:09):
But I know I can if I have to.
I know how to start it, I know,you know all the stuff, but I
have no desire.
It's big.

Speaker 12 (01:00:20):
No, no, no.
I will say this, though that'sa mistake, because you really
should.
Both of you should drive, andwe ran into a situation about
two years ago and I had to havemy gallbladder removed.
In the middle of the night sherushed me to the hospital.
They flew me over to ColoradoSprings six hours away and we
were a day or two from ourreservation at the campground

(01:00:43):
ending and we were going to goto Uray and if I was in the
hospital, so she was going tohave to drive.
Thankfully we were able toextend our stay at that
campground and thankfully we hadfriends in Town who offered to
drive to rig.
So really, to be honest withyou, she, I do need to let her

(01:01:05):
get behind the wheel because ifyou ever get in that situation,
you want your partner to be ableto help you out and drive that
rig and know how to handle it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
And we always say that it's really, really
important and I in particularwe've noticed over the course of
several years there's a lotmore folks that have been
embracing boondocking, which iswhy they're adding tons of solar
and extra batteries to be ableto do more of that off-grid
lifestyle.
And I think that's where you'rereally going to have to make
sure your spouse knows whatthey're doing, because if you're
in a situation out there andwe've heard stories the best

(01:01:37):
thing is you don't want to haveto drive wives in situations
where you're forced to andyou're uncomfortable and you're
nervous, so always know.
So, yes, get on the ground,husbands Move out the way, get
on the ground and ladies pick upthe wheel, because you know
what we can do this.

Speaker 21 (01:01:58):
I don't drive it.
I've driven, but not the fifthwheel driven the class a in the
past, bumper pole in the past,not you know, just one stretch
or whatever.
But I think I'm better atnavigating and telling them
where to go she does tell mewhere to go all the time you

(01:02:24):
know, one thing

Speaker 11 (01:02:25):
is, I'm sorry, go ahead okay, I am working up to
it.
I have.
I have backed our camper into asite.
We did a video on it and hemade me look a lot better than
it really happened.
It took quite a few tries but Idid it Once and done and I've

(01:02:53):
driven like in campgrounds.
So I have driven it.
I'm working up to the road.

Speaker 9 (01:03:02):
You know one thing that we found that's really
important while we're all outthere on the road in traveling,
for the most part we know whatstate we're in.
Maybe we, maybe we even knowwhat highway we're on, but we'd
always we don't always knowexactly where we're at, and I
think it's really important foreverybody to learn how to they

(01:03:22):
call it drop a pin.
You go onto your phone, you candrop your pin.
That's your location, you knowlatitude, longitude, all of that
, and then you can go for helpand you can call somebody and
you can tell them where you'reat and you can send them that
location.
So, while you're out on theroad, if you want to be safe and
you know, dot all the I's andcross all the T's, it's really

(01:03:48):
important to learn how to takethe time to do stuff like that.
So I would really suggest thatthe people that are out there,
that are traveling the country,and you get out into these real
remote places, learn how to dropa pin and then you can call
somebody.
If you have something like astarlink and you know you can
get out to them and or they canget out to you.
That I think that's animportant, an important deal.

Speaker 11 (01:04:15):
Could be an easy or hard question, depending, but
what has been your favorite spot, location, drive, whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:04:28):
I've got to say we just came back from Vancouver
Island and we took our fifthwheel on Vancouver Island.
I think we were just about thebiggest thing on there.
But I will tell you, we've beento Hawaii, we've been to Mexico
, we've been to thesub-Caribbean Pacific side.
The most beautiful beaches youwill ever see is in Vancouver

(01:04:51):
Island and it was absolutelyincredible.
And if you want to do a bucketlist, that would be one, because
you will be really surprised onhow warm it is actually during
the summer.
We were there during the falland they were surfing and doing
all that and the kids run aroundin bikinis while we were

(01:05:12):
dressed up like we were in the.
Arctic, but absolutely it is atropical island, believe it or
not, with a rainforest.
It's absolutely beautiful.
I'm sorry, okay, let's not gettechnical.

(01:05:33):
I've seen the beach, okay, soI've been there, we've been to
Kauai, we've been to the BigIsland, so we we just comparing,
and so I wouldn't take my riginto Mexico either.
So that's only the cop in me.
So, but there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
I definitely enjoyed Iceland.
I think that's a bucket listtrip you guys had all
experienced.
It's really easy to navigate,the GPSs are easy, the people
are wonderful, the food'sdelicious.
It depends on what time of theyear, of course, you want to go,
but summer times are great justas well.
The greenery, the waterfalls,and there's a Costco in

(01:06:12):
Reykjavik, yep.
So for first, stop, stock it up, and it's a big van life
community, or you know overthere some you don't have to
cook on your knees so you canactually stand in a few.
But those are really greatbucket lists and I even think,
if you can do it and you're notafraid of it, japan is wonderful

(01:06:33):
.
We were actually reallysurprised at the RV community
over there.
We have a series on it ifyou're interested in checking it
out.
But we did try to learn and tryto showcase.
You know you don't have to beafraid to take things across the
seas as well too, but those aregreat opportunities to look
into as well and it's super easyto navigate.
A lot of them speak English andif you go into certain areas

(01:06:56):
where they don't, there are thetranslators that are super
efficient.
Nowadays you could even do itright from your phone.
We've had conversations withfolks in Japanese, where I'm
speaking in English and it spitsout Japanese and they speak
Japanese and it spits outEnglish, and I was like, wow,
this is great.
So those are greatopportunities to not miss as
well.
And no, you can't take your ownrigs over there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
I'm not good at this.
My favorite place wasWashington DC.
It was a huge bucket list forme.
Growing up, you see it on TV,you learn about it in school but
being there and seeing all ofthe museums, the young people
that are starting their careersand in their little, their
outfits and their satchels andtheir oh it's just, it was just

(01:07:50):
the coolest thing for me and Iwant to go back, hopefully when
it's not so crazy, but sorry,but I know, I know it is there's
, there's always things going onthere, but, um, it was just
seeing all the monuments andstatues and, oh, my gosh, it was
just.
It was my, my happy place there.

Speaker 15 (01:08:15):
Daniel, we've had, I think we've been super
fortunate.
Let's just talking about theunited states.
Right, we've been.
We've been in elta 49.
We're still missing hawaii.
Hopefully he'll take me on ananniversary trip or something
well, but I would say probablysome places that in the united
states that I think are mustcheck out, they're like shockers

(01:08:37):
to me is the UP in Michigan,like stunning, fantastic,
beautiful spot, the upstate NewYork, another beautiful spot,
and I think the northwest sideof Arkansas is overlooked and
underrated.
So those would be three spotsthat I would recommend you check

(01:08:58):
out here in the United States,other than our national parks,
obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Anybody else got one, by the way, I've moved, guys.
I'm over here.

Speaker 12 (01:09:09):
That's what happens when you give me wireless mics,
I just thought of a Door County,wisconsin If you could never go
up there.
Unbelievable Just beauty.
It was fantastic.
So that's another area that youcould check out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
And cheese and beer.
Okay, we had a question overhere.
By the way, if you have aquestion, you just don't want to
go up to the mic.
If you wave your hand at me,I'll come to you now.

Speaker 8 (01:09:32):
Thanks, ryan, not to be a Debbie Downer, but we
always hear about the greatplaces.
Where would you?

Speaker 15 (01:09:44):
stay away from San Francisco.
That just was verydisheartening.
We went through there and I wasso excited to see the Golden
Gate Bridge, but that city hasjust.
It just isn't.
It's very sad to me and itdidn't.
I did not feel safe and that'sthe only place that we've been

(01:10:05):
in the United States that I wasuneasy.
I did not feel safe in thedowntown of San Francisco.
I know there's some northernCalifornians here, um, but you
feel the same way.
All right, it's been like thatfor 50 years.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
It was sad.
Was that unsafe with your RV orjust unsafe across the board?

Speaker 15 (01:10:27):
I would just say across the board.
I mean, we did a hop-on,hop-off bus tour and it was like
, oh, this is great, but we'renot getting off the bus to go
tour anything.
We just looked at it from thebus.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Because sometimes that could be either or you
might not love where the RV isand you maybe don't want to
leave it there, and then alsojust the actual unsafe feeling.

Speaker 10 (01:10:45):
Personally, we usually always drive into places
, so we always stay outside ofthe big cities and then drive in
.
So yeah, that would probably be, and it is sad because it has a
lot of beauty and a lot ofcharm.
But it is the first time in allof our travels and all the
places that we felt completelyuneasy.
Now she's drugged me everywhere.

(01:11:06):
If you watched her videos and Idon't like big cities and,
believe it or not, I guess a bigsurprise was a lot of you
probably wouldn't go to Portland.
A lot of you probably wouldn'tgo to Portland.
But honestly, after beingdowntown and hanging around and
doing all the things, I actuallyreally liked being downtown
Portland after a while.
So that was a surprise becauseI was, I didn't know.

(01:11:27):
But San Francisco would go upthere and that's just it.

Speaker 8 (01:11:31):
Don't get me started on states, but in general, I
think another one that wasn't,and we don't like being negative
on our channel, so we don'tmention the negativity.
But Visalia KOA, you probablyshouldn't even say that, but

(01:11:55):
stay away, because when theytell you to lock everything up
because things are stolen, thatis probably a good sign and
that's supposed to be thegateway to Yosemite.
So and we never put that on ourchannel because we just don't
want to be negative.
But yeah, even on the lawenforcement side of myself, I

(01:12:16):
was uneasy there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Anybody else got one, so if nobody has a question.
Right now I kind of have afollow-up.
I will come to you right in asecond Jill.
Do you guys have any tips for,like you know how you get that
feeling in your gut youshouldn't leave your RV there,
or security minus weirddinosaurs running around your RV
, videos and those types ofthings.
But do you have any kind oftips for, like, when you're

(01:12:40):
traveling in a place, thingsthat you kind of look for on the
security level or pay attentionto so you know to go or stay,
kind of a thing?

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
We actually had a situation as an overnighter
staying in a casino parking lotand you know we thought it was
busy, dave looked up reviews andwe thought it was perfectly
fine.
And so I always go with the gutinstinct, feeling you know
there's, and being up here, youguys know we get lots of

(01:13:08):
comments from folks that willtell you to stay away from
things or don't do things, orthey have their bikes stolen or
there's an uptick in this typeof crime, and so we have our
bikes on the back.
So right away when we were offand we were filming and it was
like an abandoned amusement parkand we loved that kind of stuff
, so it was awesome.
And I just got this feeling.
I turned around and I saw thisold Explorer just slowly rolling
by.
So always go with your gut.
So I just turned around andstarted filming just

(01:13:30):
nonchalantly oh, look at thattree over there filmed the
Explorer, you know, just to havea record of it.
And then at night a situationhappened that just really set
off some red flags and then Idecided I don't know what made
me do it, maybe God said get theheck out of there.
And I saw the same FordExplorer hours later and it's
nighttime, slowly perusing theback of the RV, I'm trying to

(01:13:52):
wrap up dinner.
Lo and behold, it comes backand there's a white sprinter van
that was with it, tinted out.
And I'm watching where theyparked, and they parked next to
each other.
No one got out.
We got out Up there Veryquickly, so we left and as soon
as we hit the highway.
So the moral of the story isjust know your surroundings, no
matter what.
Go with your gut instinct.
Trust the gut, no matter what,even if it's gas, trust the gut.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
We only have a few more minutes.
We have time for a couple morequestions.
We got one right up there.

Speaker 17 (01:14:29):
Hi everyone, how are you?
I watch all your channelsexcept for two.
I'm kind of a YouTube junkie.
You can ask my wife.
That's why she's not here,because she's not a big YouTube
fan.
But anyway, she loves us, right?
She loves you guys, she reallydoes, and those guys, and those
guys and those guys.
But for someone that'sinterested in starting a YouTube

(01:14:49):
channel, how do you guys, howdid you get over the fear of
holding a camera and you knowfilming all the stuff that you
do?
How did you get over thatinitial fear, or did you ever
get over that initial fear?

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Real quick, todd.
Did you ever have that fear?

Speaker 15 (01:15:07):
Todd never had that fear.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Okay, sorry.

Speaker 15 (01:15:11):
Todd's always had a camera in his face or in our
family or whatever, as soon asit was a thing.
But I think for me, whatchanged for me was to start to
when I started meeting thecommunity and started meeting
you all and realize there'ssomebody on the other side.
So just have the conversationlike I'm talking to new friends

(01:15:32):
right like now I'm talking topeople that I know sharing my
heart, sharing our story, tryingto help somebody.
I think so just stop looking atit as a camera and just think
that I'm sharing this.
You're sharing your journeywith people who might not be
able to get out and go on thatjourney.
They can see the world throughyour eyes or they can see things

(01:15:52):
and experience things.
So it's not about you as theyoutuber or about you being on
camera.
It's about what value you canbring the person on the other
side I 100 agree exactly whatyou say.

Speaker 21 (01:16:06):
It's just about, yeah, you're talking to that
person on the other side, andbut editing is a beautiful thing
too.
So you know what you don't haveto.
You don't worry about it.
If you say something, you watchit back and then you go, oh
well, maybe I shouldn't havesaid that, or oh, that didn't
come out right, you know what.
So that maybe gives you alittle freedom.
When you're talking to thecamera.
You don't have to worry becauseit's not live tv, right.

(01:16:28):
So you can go back and you canedit and you can kind of, you
know, make it come out right orfix it or cut out the ums and
the uhs and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
So so editing is a beautiful thing I think the
biggest thing is also time.
It's going to take you.
You know, once you put it inyour face the first time and
even if you're speaking topeople, I feel like it's you got
to find yourself within that aswell and be true to yourself
and just put your heart into it.

(01:16:58):
And even if you don't get itright the first few times and we
all have cringy-ass videossorry, there's a lot of cringy
videos where we first startedand that's how I feel but those
are some of the ones I felt like, wow, we were cringy, but it
was cool you can look back atthat and see where you are today
, at this moment and you hadthat.
If you're looking at starting ayoutube channel, a lot of folks

(01:17:19):
initially may have started justfor family and friends, but
they changed that game for allof us.
So if you're looking at it, youmight be looking at in a
different light as well, right,but just still never lose
yourself in that and just beyour authentic self and then
just keep watching it back andthe moment you don't do this,
then you know you got it we wecall it humble beginnings and I
think every single one of us andfor purpose, we leave our

(01:17:41):
humble beginnings on our channel.

Speaker 8 (01:17:43):
So if you were to go back to our first it's humble
beginnings Just pick up thecamera and just do it, and just
put your face in it and just doit.
95% of everything we film is ona GoPro or a DJI.
They're very cheap and they'vegot great cameras.

(01:18:05):
Now Just pick it up and just doit.

Speaker 12 (01:18:10):
Yeah, at least for me.
You know my personal story.
Going through that, seeing howother people dealt with that and
the same thing with ourdaughter, I drew inspiration
from those people thinking youknow if they can do what they
had to do to get through that,putting that camera on and just
talking to that camera seemedlike an easy task.
And I also think the more youdo it just keep doing it over

(01:18:32):
and over and then it justbecomes natural you just take
that camera out, you just starttalking so real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Sorry, we only have about five minutes left.
Sorry, I'm over here now.
I keep moving on y'all, sowe're going to go a little more
rapid fire.
So if you want to finish thatoff, and then I've got one
question over to my right, we'regoing to come back to you and
then I've got one back here.

Speaker 9 (01:18:49):
So if you didn't get a question, I was going to say
just be yourself.
You know we're all up heredoing the exact same thing, but
we all do it differently.
We all have different things tooffer.
You need to find your strongpoint and stay with it, and I

(01:19:09):
think you'll probably do reallywell.

Speaker 22 (01:19:11):
A bit of a how-to question If you guys could talk
about what kind of a rig you'reusing.
Are you using iPhones?
If so, what kind of a rigyou're using?
You're using iphones?
If so, what kind of a holder ormount?
Then, approximately how manyhours of video do you shoot per
one hour or half hour video, andhow many hours of editing do
you take to get to do one,because it varies a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:19:33):
thank you well for me .
I use uh, primarily severalPros, and in addition to that, when
I'm in a pinch I'll use myiPhone, which shoots quite well,
and we also use a drone and awhat's that camera?
A Nikon, A Nikon a biggercamera.

(01:19:56):
But as far as editing, I spenda whole lot of time on editing I
mean probably more than Ishould and I understand it's
about an hour's worth of editingfor every minute you get out of
it.
That's been my experience.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
It's also the style of channel or video you're doing
.
If you're a how-to type channel, it might flow a little bit
more fluidly than, say, ifyou're a storytelling style
channel, where it might requireyou to use a lot of things or
drones or four different camerasand it takes a lot of time to
edit those.
So it's if you're a talkinghead style video or if you're,

(01:20:37):
you know, a podcast video style.
They're all different versionsof what that means.
So, whatever your niche wouldbe, that would be where you kind
of start to understand thedifference between, say, you
know hours worth of time for atwenty-minute video versus
twenty minutes of time for youknow an hour video.

(01:20:57):
If it just depends on yourstyle of editing and what you're
trying to do with your channel,yeah, I agree, that's true okay
, oh Todd, oh boy, I'm justcoming from the beyond.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Now you're gonna say something.

Speaker 10 (01:21:13):
I don't see you.
I feel like I'm talking to.
Why are you sitting?
This is your, because.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
I've talking to.
Why are you sitting?
This is your, you're sitting.
I've been standing this wholetime.
You've been sitting.
Don't give me Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:21:21):
I just didn't see you, so I was smiling at Jason
because we had this conversationa long time ago.
I think the rule of thumb isexactly what she said.
It's usually an hour editingfor like one minute.
If you're doing something fancy, if you, you're doing something
fancy if you watch our videos,you're not fancy, I'm not fancy.

(01:21:43):
And I want to say this to giveyou encouragement general video
when you watch our videos I editis five hours from start to
beginning from.
That's why we did three videosa week, because I looked at it
as I want to tell the story andhow is the?
So I'm chopping stuff out andI'll throw music on at the end
and they're not great videos.
And you guys have told usyou're too shaky.

(01:22:04):
Why don't you get this?
Or the audio sucks.
You played your music and I'mlike the video's done.
We're going on to a new storynow.
So I say that to encourage you.
If you're going to start, juststart.
I don't care if it's your cellphone, I don't care if it's a
GoPro, I don't care if you shootan hour video and don't edit it

(01:22:24):
, just upload it.
People Upload it, share yourstory and let people decide and
then, along the way you developyour style.
So just I say that to encourage.
I started doing videos probablylonger than anyone on this stage
and I can say that comfortably.
15 years I did a thousandvideos that most of you don't

(01:22:47):
even know about, that have 40 to50 views on, and I did it
because I wanted to share thestory and now I can look back
and laugh at how stupid I was.
But it'll also.
I do it for legacy.
Your grandkids and yourgrandkids' grandkids can see who
you were, what you did, and wehave the benefit now to share a

(01:23:09):
life-size story for all of ourgenerations to see.
And that's why you shoot thevideo.
You don't do it for thestrangers all the time.
You do it for legacy.
I want my grandkids grandkidsto see where we were, what we
did and how we did it, andthat's the most important part.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
That is the most important part I have to add,
they're giving my grandkidssomething to laugh about the
future.
There you go okay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
So these are going to be kind of quick.

Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
We have two more questions and we are officially
at time, so we're going to gothrough kind of quick okay, this
might be a subject for a futureseminar, but, uh, what are your
guys feelings about carryingfirearms and around as part of
your safety security?

Speaker 8 (01:24:03):
I carry every single weapon I possibly can carry, and
so I think you have to realizeyou are in your home and you
need to protect your home.
So I am a true believer that aconcealed weapon permit is for

(01:24:29):
the outside of your home.
I'm a believer that when youare in your home, you protect
your home with whatever firearmyou need.
So you should be rolling withyour firearm.
As far as the law is concernedis how you have it in your
vehicle is a different story.
In most places the ammunitionhas to be a detached from the

(01:24:53):
weapon and the weapon needs tobe locked in your vehicle, in
your home.
You carry it whatever way youwant to carry it, but be safe.
Make sure that you always uh,if you're thinking about getting
a firearm in your rig, makesure you do a course, a safety
gun course, mandatory.
We don't want a bunch of peopleout there pointing guns at

(01:25:14):
people you don't even know howto use it, and if you're going
to point it at something, makesure you're going to destroy it.
So that is the best advice Ican give you.
All states have different laws.
Trust me, in California, whereI was a deputy sheriff, the way
I treat my.
You know, carry in Californianow is a heck of a lot different

(01:25:38):
than how I would carry inArizona.
How you would carry in New Yorkmay be a heck of a lot
different on how you would carryin Montana.
So make sure you know the lawsin your state because there are
some people that just don'tbelieve you should have a gun.
But remember you are in yourhome.
Car is a different story.

(01:26:01):
As a law enforcement officer, Icherish people who care.
Good people who carry guns.
Does that make sense?
So good people should have guns.
Bad people should not have guns.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Perfect, all right.

Speaker 13 (01:26:22):
My question is outside of YouTube how many of
you all still work a full-timejob and what's your challenges
on the road?

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
I work a full-time job, sort of.

Speaker 9 (01:26:37):
Kind of sort of I do work a full-time job, sort of
Kind of sort of.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
I do work a full-time job and when I'm not at the
office, I'm working either athome or I'm working in the rig
and I multitask.
I throw a load of laundry inwhile I'm editing.
That's how I do it.
I just try to find the time andsqueeze in what I can where I

(01:27:02):
can we're retired, so other thanediting, we're, we got.

Speaker 9 (01:27:11):
We got a pretty good so um, we do a lot of work from
the road.
We're up quite late at nightsometimes trying to take care of
things at work, and it's hardto balance travel and fun at the
same time, because the peoplethat we're traveling with a lot

(01:27:32):
of them they just have tomorrowand all day today, and we don't
always have that.
Sometimes we get back to therig and we have dinner.
Well, then we have to jump onthe computer for an hour or two
and then we get up in themorning and we found out that
everybody answered us.
Now we got another hour or two.
So you know, it's kind of hardto balance the fun and the work

(01:27:56):
when you're traveling withfriends that only understand fun
.

Speaker 14 (01:28:05):
So I mentioned earlier I don't know if you were
here that we do some workcamping on the road.
We are both retired, we have mySocial Security and some IRA
money and we figured out thatthat's not enough to sustain the
lifestyle.
So we started doing somecampground hosting in Michigan,
which was our home state, andthat worked out really good for
us for month stays very littlerequirements to do, in fact.

(01:28:27):
Here we're actuallyvolunteering at Karchner Caverns
State Park here and we're doingits wonderful place and a
wonderful place to be.
So we're there for four monthsand that kind of helps
supplement.
Then we don't have any directliving expenses as far as
campgrounds or anything.
And then from here, as Imentioned, we're going to Crater
Lake in Oregon and we'll bethere for the whole summer and

(01:28:50):
again almost free not free sitefor us in exchange for work, but
they're going to pay us as well, so we can prime the pump up a
little bit and maybe take thenext year off.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
All right.
Well, before you jump up andstretch your legs, do me a favor
quick restroom breaks.
And then the health insuranceseminar got it right, is going
to start here in just a fewminutes.
So you got a few minutes andthen come on back.
But before you leave, thank youso much for your questions and
let's give a round of applausefor our panel for hanging out.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Thank you, guys just keep it going one more time
round.
Applause for ryan, because thatis not easy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Hopefully you enjoyed listening to the panel that we
did live.
Obviously, there were somebreaks and some stuff in there
and not everybody knows how totalk into a microphone as well
as people that talk intomicrophones all day do, and so
there were some breaks there,but hopefully you had some
entertainment and a little bitof knowledge out of that panel.
Thank you so much for listeningto the RV Shenanigans podcast

(01:30:01):
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Follow on your favorite podcastplatform whether that be
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Thank you guys so much and wewill chat with you next week.

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