September 10, 2025 • 30 mins
We dive into the great RV debate of full-time versus part-time living and share our unique perspective after experiencing both lifestyles over the past three years.
• Transitioning from a 44-foot toy hauler fifth wheel to a sub-30-foot travel trailer
• Weather challenges of full-time living including rain, extreme heat, and ice storms
• Maintenance issues become more complicated when your home is also your transportation
• Coordinating business travel creates logistical challenges when full-timing
• Full-time benefits include community connections and having all your belongings with you
• Part-time advantages include less stress, more relaxed travel, and easier maintenance
• Finding your ideal RV lifestyle depends on whether you prioritize freedom or stability
• Having a home base doesn't prevent you from traveling—we're actually traveling more now
• The RV community welcomes all travel styles from weekend warriors to permanent nomads
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today we are diving into one of the great RV debates
To part-time or to full-time,which is better?
Welcome back to the RVShenanigans podcast.
(00:25):
We're still in our new studio.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Still, I plan to stay here for a hot minute, okay.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, that would be a good idea.
It was a lot of work to getthis thing built and put
together.
So, yes, we're going to talkabout part-time versus full-time
, and we are one of the fewRVers out there that can
actually speak to both.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I really didn't think three years ago I'd be saying
that sentence.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So we, in case you're new, we talked about this a lot
on the last episode because wepretty much just went to
part-time about I don't know sixmonths ago-ish now.
So we've been, we full-time inour Alliance.
Valor 44V14, big toy hauler,fifth wheel.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
For well, okay, we full-time for almost a little
over three years, right, a lotof it in that.
And then we had a normal fifthwheel prior to that, and then
we've part-time now in asub-30-foot Alliance Delta 252RL
, which is a bumper pull traveltrailer.
So we have experience not onlyin most of the tollable market.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm not doing a teardrop or a pop-up, so please
don't make me do a teardrop or apop-up with him.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I am a teardrop, I am shaped like it, the whole nine
yards, except for that skinnypart.
I'm not that and and there's alot of differences there's a lot
of things that you should takeinto account.
There's things that when wewent part-time, we went, wow, we
have so much room, and thensomehow we ran out of certain
types of room.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It was strange.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And more of other types of room which is going to
be dependent based on your RV.
Yeah, but we're going to diveright into it and we're going to
start with my iPad locking up.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Fun times for all of us.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
So and we're not going to touch base on this too
much but, like we said, we didstart full time and went part
time.
So that journey was a littlebit different because, if you
want more detail, listen to thelast podcast that was out last
week.
It was our back from hiatusbreak.
We kind of filled everybody inwhat's going on, but it wasn't.
(02:23):
We chose to buy a home base.
We did and we downsized becausewe didn't feel like we had the
need for as large of an RV if weweren't going to be living in
it.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So when we were picking out our Delta we
actually looked around.
We knew we wanted to stick withAlliance because we were super
happy with the company as awhole customer service.
We didn't have a reason to notbuy an Alliance, unless they
just didn't have a floor plan weliked.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Right, and I wanted something under 32 feet.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I wanted, and realistically we said 30 feet,
so we're officially 29 feet 10inches.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
That's right.
Mission accomplished by twoinches.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And when we went and were looking for, we had to keep
telling ourselves we're notliving in it.
Stop looking at that way.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, but we, that's how we'd looked at things for so
long, because even before webought our first RV, that was
how we looked at it was you know, where does everything that,
all those full-time necessities,where do all those go?
So this was a big change ofpace, and a welcome change of
pace.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Very important where I put my smoker.
By the way, I will still haveone, it's just going to go in
the truck.
Anyways, as they say, so as awhole, we kind of had to
simplify our RV life, if thatmakes sense.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
We did, but it worked out really well because when
you have a smaller RV and lessweight capacity, we also have a
lot less stuff, because we havethe house to put all of our
stuff in.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, boy, did we somehow accumulate it?
So with that, like I said, ifyou want to know more about our
story, our journey, it's allover the main videos on the
YouTube channel, plus the lastepisode.
We dove into that a little bitmore.
So let's just move into kind ofthe pros, if you may, or I'm
sorry, not the pros, but thechallenges of full-time RVing.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So if you had one challenge, what was that thing?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
To me, the biggest challenge was the weather.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay.
For me, because if it wasraining, out I'm going to
disagree the biggest, I'm goingto say the most annoying.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Maybe for me and my convenience okay.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
There it is.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So for me and you asked me, not you it was the
weather, because if it was hot,just trying to keep it cooled
down, how do you operate in thekitchen with it being so hot,
this and that You've got to keepthe window shades drawn?
You don't want it too hot andI'm a sunshine person.
And then if it's raining,taking the dogs outside and
trying to get them in and out,getting their feet dried off and
(04:43):
all that sort of stuff outsideand trying to get them in and
out, getting their feet driedoff and all that sort of stuff
we weathered an ice storm in oneof the RVs True, I have the
mark on my butt to prove it whenI slipped down the stairs, no
joke.
And again it was a little bit ofa safety issue trying to get us
and the dogs up and down thestairs with that sort of thing
going on.
And if you want to know why weweathered those things again, go
(05:05):
back to the first video.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It wasn't necessarily by choice.
No, we got stuck in Texas a lotmore than we really intended on
it, which was another factor inin, you know, buying the house.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But yeah, for me that was the biggest, biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
So for me, the biggest thing was and this is a
good thing and a bad thing it'sgreat from the perspective of
owning a business and being inthe in the content creation
industry.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Is that an industry?
Yeah, I guess it's big enoughnow.
It's an industry.
It's huge.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Um, that we would get a lot of opportunities to go
somewhere, or I would havesomething come up for the main
channel, the podcast or whatever, like going to industry day up
in Elkhart or open dealer, openhouse, which only media get
invited to, or dealers, and notbeing able to go because I
essentially take her home awayfor her because she can't go.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, and we kind of made some arrangements for that,
where I would stay withsomebody and then I'm having to
take the dogs with me, and sothat it's not that you couldn't
go, but it was really difficultto get you out the door and on
the road.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And not only that, but it was really difficult to
get you out the door and on theroad.
Well, and not only that, but ittook time and effort and you
had to pack up potentially aweek or so worth of stuff for
not only you but the dogs to getout.
So if you're looking at fulltiming and I know we're focusing
on the negatives right now-there's going to be a pros side
to this.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I promise there are plenty of pros too.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But you know, quite frankly, having Two people that
might have different, slightlydifferent work schedules.
So if you're retired, thisdoesn't matter.
Go together, go everywhere,have fun.
If you're not retired, this isvery relevant.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And so you know there were times that you couldn't go
to things because you couldn'ttow the RV, because I couldn't
go, or you had to fly down.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Kind of a thing, and there were times that we had to
coordinate air travel inconjunction with RV travel, like
I headed to Florida for twoyears ago when we were down
there for RV Unplugged, season 2production, tampa show, all of
the things, yeah, and youcouldn't be gone for the full
two weeks or whatever it was.
You could be gone for a lot ofit but not all of it, so you had
(07:04):
to fly down and meet me once.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
That's happened before even picking up the Valor
.
Things got got a little bitbehind schedule and I had to be
at work one day, so I had to flyhome to get to work, which left
you driving a brand new righome by yourself with the dogs.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, not only did I do that, but I also had to
install all our safety stuff bymyself at Alcar campground, like
the backup camera, the TPMSsystems and all that, so that I
felt comfortable driving it allthe way back Right.
So I think the other thing, too, is like maintenance when
you're living in it.
If something were to break, Ican't tell you how many times we
had to move out of our RV atleast twice.
(07:39):
It's true, we really did, and soif that were to go down, you're
kind of high and dry.
Now some of the manufacturersif you happen to be able to work
with it are starting to put inlike little condos, apartments,
whatever you want to call them,but for the most part you're
hoteling at Airbnb and atwhatever your options are.
We've spent many a night in theTrue by Hilton in Elkhart our
(08:02):
home away from home there forlike three years.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yes, and we've spent many a night with beloved family
who would let us crash withthem and, mind you, and I know,
this was our, just our decision,but it's also with the dogs
every time.
So we had to find pet friendlyhotels.
We had to think about what thedogs were going to do, you know,
if we left it.
We were at a family member'shouse or whatnot go to work?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
So if, depending on the season of life that you're
actually in, that could bepotentially something that you
really want to pay attention tois the ins and outs of traveling
or having to move in and out ofit.
But that maintenance thing, anda little bit from the road too,
like because you're constantlyusing it, like so many of these
maintenance manuals for thesethings, I mean, at the end of
the day, even though a lot ofcompanies and alliances one of
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them says they'll warranty itfor full time, that just means
they're going to back you up,right, right.
It doesn't necessarily meanthat everything's designed for
full time.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And so you know, like some of these things, like
regular axles, you're supposedto grease those every 5,000
miles.
Well, I mean, for us that's notas often as it was before.
And so you're having to do allof this maintenance work whilst
on the road.
So you're literally just in acampground and you have to jack
your rig up to get the tire offto grease.
Well, if you're going to repackthe bearings, you do other than
(09:14):
not.
I don't like the little Dextereasy loop thing.
I think it's just take thewheel off, um, but it's.
That's a big deal wheneverybody in there has to get
out while you jack up yourtrailer.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
We did that several times.
The dogs and I would have to goto the park or something.
So you could get something done.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Well, and I'll use an example, some friends of ours
were going to come down and seeus in Texas, in Lantana
specifically, and we were goingto meet oh no, waco, that's what
it was, I'm sorry.
We were meeting for a businessmeeting at a campground, we were
looking at a rally site forthem and they were supposed to
come down to Waco and they're ina motorhome and they had engine
(09:52):
problems Right and slideproblems and so they just were
dead in the water Right and he'slike sorry, and they pretty
much just said sorry, we can'tmake it, which sucked.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So having kind of your home and your recreation
and your office and all of thatin one is great in theory and
sometimes it works really well.
But when it doesn't work itputs a damper on everything.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Well, and I think something that's important to
remember too and we are just asguilty of this is it's not all
the pretty Instagram picture.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And that's I mean.
There's moments where itabsolutely is Don't get me wrong
and we're going to get intothat in a second, but the pro
side of it is vast as well.
But just know that if I hearthis one a lot like well, if my
wife and I just hit the road,it'll fix the marriage.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Or we'll stop arguing .
That's like saying having kidswill fix your marriage.
Oh my goodness, yeah or nomoney.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But it's not.
I'm going to say this If youget into the biggest motor home
vehicle you can get into, youare at most looking around 450
square feet at most, unlessyou're Todd and Sheila from
switch it up with whatever sizethat thing is, they're like
7,000 square feet somehow with ahelicopter pad.
But with us we were in four 25and now we're in even less, but
(11:05):
we're not living in that one.
That's right.
If you're arguing it's going toget worse, yes, Because you're
on top of each other, it's true.
And if you can't get along likethat was one of the things with
our very first RV we struggledwith was I'd be on calls or
working on a Saturday and theliving room was the kitchen, was
my office, was all the things.
So the only spot she could goto get away from me while I was
(11:25):
on a call was the bedroom, andthe only spot that's sitting
there was to lay in bed.
You don't really want to dothat all the time, so she was
just outside sweaty a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And then, what do the dogs do?
Do they come in there with me?
Are they going to wrestle inthe living room while he's
trying to be on a work?
Call those sorts of things.
So trying to overlap someofered on you, but it was just
kind of the overlapping spacesthat made different tasks hard.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
So, with that, what are the perks, the bonuses, the
buenos, the buenos.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Why do it why?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
on earth, would you do?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
this now that we just told you why not to.
So, first of all, I would say ahuge perk for me was meeting
some of the most incrediblepeople.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You can do that with your part-time, just less
frequently.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Less frequently.
I feel like we've got toindulge a little bit more in
that that I agree with Just theway that we did and the people
is a huge, huge bonus for me.
What about you?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So I would say the knowing where you're, like not
really truly having to pack,Like there's something nice
about it and we said this kindof.
The first few trips we tookwere around horse shows and so
we would go, you know we'd be inour site in Texas because we
always maintain a full-time sitehere and we would pack up and
head down to Waco or to Tyler orwherever else we were going for
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a horse show and she would goget the horses.
I would get there, get set up,typically, be able to go to the
grocery store and get back.
And so whenever she was thereand got done, unloading Stella
her jumping horse I don't knowwhy, jumping horse the things
that got in my head.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I hope that you're watching this and not listening
to it.
Yeah, you get the visual of myhand doing a jumping horse.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But, knowing that everything was done, you could
walk in and everything wasexactly the same for the most
part and it was just working andyour stuff was where it was
when you left it that morningand all that.
The only difference is is thetrailer moved.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And it's cooled off and the dogs are content.
That is a huge perk.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I agree with that.
They always felt comfortable.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Bailey, our chocolate lab, is terrified of her own
shadow Hunting dog Poor dog andwhen she gets really scared or
startled she barks.
Not a lot, it's more of a kindof like how some people when you
scare them, they go bah.
That kind of a thing.
I just blew everyone's eardrums out.
Everybody's ear drums out.
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It's one of those where it'slike one or two barks and that's
kind of it.
And but for her, like in thenew RV, she does that a little
more frequently still becauseshe's not, as we're not,
spending as much time in it.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
She's not convinced that that's her house yet and
Well, it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
this is the vacation house and she can hear more.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
She got um.
She could hear, uh, whenevershe was in the big RVs when we
were full-timing and got kind ofused to the noises.
So now when we get into the RVon a part-time basis, she hears
these things again and it kindof startles her.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
So I would say that was a huge perk.
Um, I think there is somethingto the simplifying.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I think that we needed to simplify at that time
and so it was a big purge and itwas a good decision for us when
we did that.
Yeah, but there is something tothat.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, it felt nice to kind of get everything out.
Look at it.
Does this really and whenyou're moving into an RV you
have to have some very seriousconversations or looks inside of
like, do I really need this?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And I'm going to be honest, I'm going to throw this
little salt in the wound righthere.
Just, is there anybody thatfull-time RVs that doesn't have
stuff stored somewhere?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I yeah, we've met people.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I don't, because I know a lot of people that
full-time RV, but they alwayshave something at a kid's house
or a little storage unit or alittle something.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, Phil and Stacey don't have anything at.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Bree's house.
I don't think Okay, I'm goingto ask Now, I'm going to ask,
I'm going to ask them next time.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I think the only thing they do there is they go
there for like I know that theirbusiness is based out of there,
and so they have mail and stuff.
And then Phil had 50-amp put inbecause if you're going to go
there and visit for the holidays.
you might as well be comfortable, why not?
I mean, I'll be honest, we'relooking at doing it at this
house, but I know that they areout there.
But you're right, at least inthe YouTube, Instagram world.
So even when you think about it, there was we had when we were
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moving.
We had stuff everywhere.
We had a lapse of like twomonths of nothing, so any other
positives.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I'm trying to think no, that was a good one about
just having all of your stuffwith you all the time your
office, or your clothes, or thisor that.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Another bonus for that would be, if you're on a
travel day and you want to stop,whatever groceries you have is
what you have, so you can stop.
And again, if you're built likea toy hauler, has a generator
on board or you've got maybe abig lithium solar package, we
would just pull over and startand make some food.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right, we would just pull over and start and make
some food Right and we had thenormal things we would have.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So, okay, yeah, there was no big transition there.
So we have been part-timing nowfor what?
Five, six months, Somethinglike that.
So what are some of the thingsso far that you love about the
part-time side of things?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
So this is kind of being able to throw the RV in
the part-time side of things.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So this is kind of being able to throw the RV in
the back and not worry about it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Well, I mean that kind of is that if it needs, if
the RV needs work or you knowsomething, that I don't have to
give up my home or get the dogsout or this or that in order for
that to be accomplished.
So I I like not being able tothrow it back there, but that
it's not also the home.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Stored with alliances .
If you're listening, Joe, theteam there.
We store it with gentle loveand care, so you don't have to
fix it.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
It was not throwed, I promise it was pushed.
I don't know how to put thisinto words, but the simplicity
of it For me.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You use simplicity in the full time, so you're going
to have to explain it a littlebetter.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
To me like pulling this up, tossing a weekend or a
week's worth of clothes into it.
It's more relaxing.
I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It feels like a vacation.
Yeah, maybe that's it, more sothan like when you live in it.
Sometimes.
I made this comment in one ofour videos at one point when my
office was in the $12 space allyou do is put a desk down, pull
a few things out and the nextthing, you know, I'm full office
mode, monitor everything, andwe were like Tennessee is a
really good example.
So we spent about a week inPigeon Forge, gatlinburg, all of
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that stuff, dollywood and itwas really easy when we went
back to the RV, when we werejust going to rest for the
afternoon because we're onvacation, aka naps to just go
back there.
I'm like I'm just going tocheck a few emails and then,
next thing, you know, I've beensitting there for three hours
and been working the whole time.
It's like okay.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And so, yeah, I agree You'll hear that from
full-timers and not alike thatthey use it to each of their own
right that my house is with me,my office is with me.
Well, that can be a good thingor a bad thing.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
So, yeah.
So I would say the other sideof that for me is like loading
the RV, like we had to make alot of decisions on what we had
to put in it.
When we were full-time, we hadto make a lot of sacrifices for
things that were on the road.
Now we made some decisions.
We're like we're definitelygoing to use this and then,
didn't use it.
Didn't use it once, and then Igot purged at some point and
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something else took its place,so we probably didn't use.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Um, but with this, because so this, it depends on
the RV you're in.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
But storage is odd because, like we have a
significantly smaller rv and wecannot put stuff in it like we
can't fill the spaces we can.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
We just don't have the stuff that we need in little
trips right, exactly so thereare some people.
You were talking about clothesgoing in and out.
There are some people, um shoutout to Wes and Mickey Miller um
, that leave pretty much all oftheir stuff minus like
medications in there, though, sohe's got like RV stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And in his words.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
If he had to get out quick, all he's got to go do is
turn it on.
Let the air thing fill it.
They have a motor home, um?
Let the air chucks filleverything up and they're out of
there.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And one day, when our RV lives in a little house of
its own called a storagebuilding of some sort, I may do
that, but while it's back there,not yet.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Well, and I would say too that when we moved from the
Valor into the house, uh, ourclothes situation is still very
much so minimal, like in an RV,and so we don't have the clothes
to do that.
I mean, I had to go.
When we did the, was it thecruise?
We took a trip recently?
It was, it was the cruise, andI ran out of underwear, because
I just don't own enough for aseven day cruise.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I ran out of socks and had to buy more socks in
Mexico Puerto.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Vallarta.
Shout out to that Walmart it itwas actually nice and it's
cheaper.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It was.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Everything else is more expensive, but that was
cheaper.
Were you going to say something?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
No no.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So any other positives for the part-time side
?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I feel more relaxed when we do it.
Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I get excited to pull it up.
I think that's some of it too.
Like we're getting ready topull it up here in a few days
for another trip and so, likethinking about it, it's like oh
yeah, I mean, I see it every day.
It's sitting.
We have a little bit of acreage.
We have the horses are here onproperty now, and so I can see
it sitting in the back pasturewith a fence around it, so the
horses don't nibble on itanymore.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Anymore, and so, knowing that we can go pull it
up or if I need to work on it,it's right there.
And I would say you know wetalked a little bit about
maintenance on the big rigs.
This is another side where youtalked about it from a similar
if it needs to go to adealership and sit for a while,
it can, it can.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's not a big deal.
Yeah, don't want it to no, butit can.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
But the other side of this too is I don much about
fixing stuff in the moment whenit breaks because we're still
moving.
Um, I can kind of, just as longas I can get back to the house,
I can stop get the tools I needbecause my my full tool array
is here now.
Right, I can get the parts Ineed before I ever start.
I don't have to jimmy rig it, Idon't have to.
Just if you remember, we got abullet-sized hole in our front
cap going to florida one yearand, um, I squeezed a whole tube
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of silicone into it justbecause it was starting to rain.
Right, and knowing that I canjust get it home and kind of
clean it, go from there and froma cleanliness perspective, I
think this RV stays a lotcleaner than our old one does.
Yeah, I can see that, but weclean it before we put it away
every time like a pretty deepclean, and then obviously, if
we're on a longer trip, we cleanas we go, because dogs are dogs
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, but all of those things.
It's a lot more relaxing for me.
Good, because I don't feel thisoverwhelming urge like, well,
we're getting there and I knowyou want to go do the fun things
, but I have a laundry list ofstuff I need to figure out.
And Amazon, that's one of thoseweird things Like I can't tell
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you how many times I go findnearest locker near me and now
it's just shipped house, thankyou, and then it comes and then
I do the thing.
So I think there's two types ofpeople, and I'm not saying
we'll never full time again butI don't know that I'll ever.
I don't.
Is it considered full timing ifyou're on the road most of the
time but still on?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
All the questions, but I agree we may be on the
road more, but I think we'llalways have a home base moving
forward.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I think that giving up that home base was something
we both thought was fine, and,as it turns out, neither of us
were as fine with that as wethought.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah.
So the big questions that Iwould tell you to kind of
consider are are you cravingstability or freedom?
And for us, we love freedom,but I think we prefer stability
just a scooch more.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
We appreciate some good stability.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, and it's not prohibiting us from traveling.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Exactly, I would argue we're traveling more.
Based on the calendar.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
yep, we are and then just flat out can you handle
constant motion?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I'm not saying every day.
Everybody has their own pace.
There's some people that everytwo or three days move.
There's some people that sitfor a full quarter or a year in
a spot and then they move.
I like Phil's mentality.
Once I don't need the GPSaround the town anymore, I know
it's time to go, Kind of a thing.
If you're not retired, thisone's pertinent.
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If you aren't, then do you haveany remote work or location
ties?
Now the bonus is that we can govisit family in an RV, so like
if you've got kids that arescattered across the U?
S or anything else and it'shard to get everybody together.
This could be amazing for youyou could bounce between family
members.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
If your family is all in one area and you're leaving
that area.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And that was kind of where we were.
But also, like when you'revisiting family, you can visit
them without having to stay withthem with your RV.
And that's kind of a reallynice perk.
I like.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay, how important is space routine?
And I'm going to say access tocommunity, but with a caveat.
We'll come back to that lastone.
So, just space and access.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So I think you and I actually did really well with
less space inside.
Surprisingly well.
Surprisingly well, I miss thespace outside.
I love to be outside putzing.
I want to pull weeds in thegarden.
I want to plant flowers.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
And we appreciate, because I hate pulling weeds in
gardens.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And so I I enjoy being outside and just kind of
working on those little things,and so I missed the outdoor
space of a permanent residenceGotcha I did let's say cause
you're RVing, there's outsideeverywhere, but it's not yours
right, it's not yours.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Well, and I think too , for me in conjunction with
that, is the dogs have abackyard again, and so, yes,
there's dog parks.
No, that's not always a goodthing.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Dog owners.
For the most part, dog ownersare amazing, but there's every
once in a while that one, andone of my biggest pet peeves
when it comes to dogs and dogparks is oh says, oh, but my
dog's friendly as they take itoff the leash.
And what if my dog's not?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
What if my dog has a traumatic past or any number of
things Was a rescue and I'm justnow acclimating it.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I don't know how it's going to react.
That doesn't mean it's okay.
So just the stress of worryingabout that kind of stuff
constantly.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Well, and we worried about the stability of the RV
full time with like thetemperature, If we were both
gone and something happened tothe power.
How are the dogs?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Well, and that brings up a good point, we internet
and all of that stuff.
I mean, quite frankly, it'smore expensive.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
It is more expensive.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Because you know I'm going to argue that house
internet's gotten just asexpensive as one of your options
.
But to have really trulyunbreakable I will always have
internet you have to have aplethora of internet options,
which means you're paying aplethora of prices.
Yes, exactly, and it can equalup to $300, $400, even $500 a
month, if you really just can'tbe without internet.
And then the technology side ofit stuff's always changing and
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that's a good and bad thing.
I mean good thing because, likethere's lights, I mean the
studio setup's a lot more simplenow because technology's
changed.
You used to have these hugelights and these little panels,
but you know, in that space itgets a little ridiculous
sometimes because something'salways changing.
It gets updated, you know, andyour control center now doesn't
work all of a sudden.
It's like, really that kind ofstuff.
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Okay, so with that, with that,the quick answer is there's
really no one size fits all.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Absolutely not, but that's the beauty of it.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Right and I think you just have to go through and you
and whoever else is involved inmaking this decision to buy an
RV, full-time or part-time inthat RV Just know that if RVing
is RVing and I think that's theimportant part there's such an
emphasis on I have to be afull-time RVer, to be a content
creator.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
No, you don't.
No, absolutely not, andWandering Weekends is a great
example of that.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
We don't know them personally, but he's built a
very successful channel and, yes, they travel, but in their RV
travel trailer, rv, hey, traveltrailer.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Well, and I think we set out with the best of
intentions.
We had some very positiveoutlook on selling the home base
at the time and going full-timein an RV and we were going to
see the things and meet thepeople and I think that we were
really excited about that and wereally had a great mind All of
the people.
We had a great mindset and thebest of intentions, and then we
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just kind of learned a littlebit about ourselves along the
way.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Well, the cool thing about the house and being RVers
is that it doesn't change thatwe can still go see these people
and like our friends.
I mean we're scheduled to gosee like November.
We're spending some time withHarold and Cindy.
Well, I'm sure we'll see Philand Stacey in the next few
months.
That's just kind of how thatworks out with their cycle.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, we're going to see a lot of people coming up
here and see some new placessoon too, and quite frankly, we
can host our friends.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
No, we are not on Boondockers, welcome.
But if we want, you know if, ifsome of our friends are running
around town and they need asabapata park, I mean we luckily
have enough room here that wecould park a big RV um in next
door.
I don't know if we are not nextdoor, but you know next to the
house it's our neighbor'sproblem Let them, deal with it.
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Not quite.
Don't know that we could fitTodd and Sheila's.
No, I'm curious.
No, I'm curious, I'm going totry it.
But yeah, so is it right foryou?
Let us know.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Only you can answer that.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
If you have questions , by all means reach out to us.
If you go to millersinmotioncomor rvshenaniganscom or
rvshenaniganspodcastcom all theplaces, all of them there's
actually a contact us form atthe bottom.
Feel free to shoot us an email.
And I have one huge requestbefore we let you go officially.
For starters, if you've made itthis far in the episode, about
30 minutes in we are veryappreciative.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
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Just one, just one that helpsget this out there a little bit.
We can keep conversations likethis going Um and then hit that
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Speaker 2 (29:28):
That just lets the YouTube and everybody else know
and all the and I'm justrambling now you wonder how he
got a channel where he talksmore.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, we are out of practice.
This is only two back fromhiatus.
Okay, all right.
No, but hit that little followbutton and then just stay in
touch with us.
You can follow us on Instagramand everything's on the website.
So with that, see you guys nextweek.
Today we are diving into one of the great RV debates
To part-time or to full-time,which is better?
Welcome back to the RVShenanigans podcast.
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We're still in our new studio.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Still, I plan to stay here for a hot minute, okay.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, that would be a good idea.
It was a lot of work to getthis thing built and put
together.
So, yes, we're going to talkabout part-time versus full-time
, and we are one of the fewRVers out there that can
actually speak to both.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I really didn't think three years ago I'd be saying
that sentence.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So we, in case you're new, we talked about this a lot
on the last episode because wepretty much just went to
part-time about I don't know sixmonths ago-ish now.
So we've been, we full-time inour Alliance.
Valor 44V14, big toy hauler,fifth wheel.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
For well, okay, we full-time for almost a little
over three years, right, a lotof it in that.
And then we had a normal fifthwheel prior to that, and then
we've part-time now in asub-30-foot Alliance Delta 252RL
, which is a bumper pull traveltrailer.
So we have experience not onlyin most of the tollable market.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm not doing a teardrop or a pop-up, so please
don't make me do a teardrop or apop-up with him.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I am a teardrop, I am shaped like it, the whole nine
yards, except for that skinnypart.
I'm not that and and there's alot of differences there's a lot
of things that you should takeinto account.
There's things that when wewent part-time, we went, wow, we
have so much room, and thensomehow we ran out of certain
types of room.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It was strange.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And more of other types of room which is going to
be dependent based on your RV.
Yeah, but we're going to diveright into it and we're going to
start with my iPad locking up.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Fun times for all of us.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
So and we're not going to touch base on this too
much but, like we said, we didstart full time and went part
time.
So that journey was a littlebit different because, if you
want more detail, listen to thelast podcast that was out last
week.
It was our back from hiatusbreak.
We kind of filled everybody inwhat's going on, but it wasn't.
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We chose to buy a home base.
We did and we downsized becausewe didn't feel like we had the
need for as large of an RV if weweren't going to be living in
it.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So when we were picking out our Delta we
actually looked around.
We knew we wanted to stick withAlliance because we were super
happy with the company as awhole customer service.
We didn't have a reason to notbuy an Alliance, unless they
just didn't have a floor plan weliked.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Right, and I wanted something under 32 feet.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I wanted, and realistically we said 30 feet,
so we're officially 29 feet 10inches.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
That's right.
Mission accomplished by twoinches.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And when we went and were looking for, we had to keep
telling ourselves we're notliving in it.
Stop looking at that way.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, but we, that's how we'd looked at things for so
long, because even before webought our first RV, that was
how we looked at it was you know, where does everything that,
all those full-time necessities,where do all those go?
So this was a big change ofpace, and a welcome change of
pace.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Very important where I put my smoker.
By the way, I will still haveone, it's just going to go in
the truck.
Anyways, as they say, so as awhole, we kind of had to
simplify our RV life, if thatmakes sense.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
We did, but it worked out really well because when
you have a smaller RV and lessweight capacity, we also have a
lot less stuff, because we havethe house to put all of our
stuff in.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, boy, did we somehow accumulate it?
So with that, like I said, ifyou want to know more about our
story, our journey, it's allover the main videos on the
YouTube channel, plus the lastepisode.
We dove into that a little bitmore.
So let's just move into kind ofthe pros, if you may, or I'm
sorry, not the pros, but thechallenges of full-time RVing.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So if you had one challenge, what was that thing?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
To me, the biggest challenge was the weather.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay.
For me, because if it wasraining, out I'm going to
disagree the biggest, I'm goingto say the most annoying.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Maybe for me and my convenience okay.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
There it is.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So for me and you asked me, not you it was the
weather, because if it was hot,just trying to keep it cooled
down, how do you operate in thekitchen with it being so hot,
this and that You've got to keepthe window shades drawn?
You don't want it too hot andI'm a sunshine person.
And then if it's raining,taking the dogs outside and
trying to get them in and out,getting their feet dried off and
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all that sort of stuff outsideand trying to get them in and
out, getting their feet driedoff and all that sort of stuff
we weathered an ice storm in oneof the RVs True, I have the
mark on my butt to prove it whenI slipped down the stairs, no
joke.
And again it was a little bit ofa safety issue trying to get us
and the dogs up and down thestairs with that sort of thing
going on.
And if you want to know why weweathered those things again, go
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back to the first video.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It wasn't necessarily by choice.
No, we got stuck in Texas a lotmore than we really intended on
it, which was another factor inin, you know, buying the house.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But yeah, for me that was the biggest, biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
So for me, the biggest thing was and this is a
good thing and a bad thing it'sgreat from the perspective of
owning a business and being inthe in the content creation
industry.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Is that an industry?
Yeah, I guess it's big enoughnow.
It's an industry.
It's huge.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Um, that we would get a lot of opportunities to go
somewhere, or I would havesomething come up for the main
channel, the podcast or whatever, like going to industry day up
in Elkhart or open dealer, openhouse, which only media get
invited to, or dealers, and notbeing able to go because I
essentially take her home awayfor her because she can't go.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, and we kind of made some arrangements for that,
where I would stay withsomebody and then I'm having to
take the dogs with me, and sothat it's not that you couldn't
go, but it was really difficultto get you out the door and on
the road.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And not only that, but it was really difficult to
get you out the door and on theroad.
Well, and not only that, but ittook time and effort and you
had to pack up potentially aweek or so worth of stuff for
not only you but the dogs to getout.
So if you're looking at fulltiming and I know we're focusing
on the negatives right now-there's going to be a pros side
to this.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I promise there are plenty of pros too.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But you know, quite frankly, having Two people that
might have different, slightlydifferent work schedules.
So if you're retired, thisdoesn't matter.
Go together, go everywhere,have fun.
If you're not retired, this isvery relevant.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And so you know there were times that you couldn't go
to things because you couldn'ttow the RV, because I couldn't
go, or you had to fly down.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Kind of a thing, and there were times that we had to
coordinate air travel inconjunction with RV travel, like
I headed to Florida for twoyears ago when we were down
there for RV Unplugged, season 2production, tampa show, all of
the things, yeah, and youcouldn't be gone for the full
two weeks or whatever it was.
You could be gone for a lot ofit but not all of it, so you had
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to fly down and meet me once.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
That's happened before even picking up the Valor
.
Things got got a little bitbehind schedule and I had to be
at work one day, so I had to flyhome to get to work, which left
you driving a brand new righome by yourself with the dogs.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, not only did I do that, but I also had to
install all our safety stuff bymyself at Alcar campground, like
the backup camera, the TPMSsystems and all that, so that I
felt comfortable driving it allthe way back Right.
So I think the other thing, too, is like maintenance when
you're living in it.
If something were to break, Ican't tell you how many times we
had to move out of our RV atleast twice.
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It's true, we really did, and soif that were to go down, you're
kind of high and dry.
Now some of the manufacturersif you happen to be able to work
with it are starting to put inlike little condos, apartments,
whatever you want to call them,but for the most part you're
hoteling at Airbnb and atwhatever your options are.
We've spent many a night in theTrue by Hilton in Elkhart our
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home away from home there forlike three years.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yes, and we've spent many a night with beloved family
who would let us crash withthem and, mind you, and I know,
this was our, just our decision,but it's also with the dogs
every time.
So we had to find pet friendlyhotels.
We had to think about what thedogs were going to do, you know,
if we left it.
We were at a family member'shouse or whatnot go to work?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
So if, depending on the season of life that you're
actually in, that could bepotentially something that you
really want to pay attention tois the ins and outs of traveling
or having to move in and out ofit.
But that maintenance thing, anda little bit from the road too,
like because you're constantlyusing it, like so many of these
maintenance manuals for thesethings, I mean, at the end of
the day, even though a lot ofcompanies and alliances one of
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them says they'll warranty itfor full time, that just means
they're going to back you up,right, right.
It doesn't necessarily meanthat everything's designed for
full time.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And so you know, like some of these things, like
regular axles, you're supposedto grease those every 5,000
miles.
Well, I mean, for us that's notas often as it was before.
And so you're having to do allof this maintenance work whilst
on the road.
So you're literally just in acampground and you have to jack
your rig up to get the tire offto grease.
Well, if you're going to repackthe bearings, you do other than
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not.
I don't like the little Dextereasy loop thing.
I think it's just take thewheel off, um, but it's.
That's a big deal wheneverybody in there has to get
out while you jack up yourtrailer.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
We did that several times.
The dogs and I would have to goto the park or something.
So you could get something done.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Well, and I'll use an example, some friends of ours
were going to come down and seeus in Texas, in Lantana
specifically, and we were goingto meet oh no, waco, that's what
it was, I'm sorry.
We were meeting for a businessmeeting at a campground, we were
looking at a rally site forthem and they were supposed to
come down to Waco and they're ina motorhome and they had engine
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problems Right and slideproblems and so they just were
dead in the water Right and he'slike sorry, and they pretty
much just said sorry, we can'tmake it, which sucked.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So having kind of your home and your recreation
and your office and all of thatin one is great in theory and
sometimes it works really well.
But when it doesn't work itputs a damper on everything.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Well, and I think something that's important to
remember too and we are just asguilty of this is it's not all
the pretty Instagram picture.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And that's I mean.
There's moments where itabsolutely is Don't get me wrong
and we're going to get intothat in a second, but the pro
side of it is vast as well.
But just know that if I hearthis one a lot like well, if my
wife and I just hit the road,it'll fix the marriage.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Or we'll stop arguing .
That's like saying having kidswill fix your marriage.
Oh my goodness, yeah or nomoney.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But it's not.
I'm going to say this If youget into the biggest motor home
vehicle you can get into, youare at most looking around 450
square feet at most, unlessyou're Todd and Sheila from
switch it up with whatever sizethat thing is, they're like
7,000 square feet somehow with ahelicopter pad.
But with us we were in four 25and now we're in even less, but
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we're not living in that one.
That's right.
If you're arguing it's going toget worse, yes, Because you're
on top of each other, it's true.
And if you can't get along likethat was one of the things with
our very first RV we struggledwith was I'd be on calls or
working on a Saturday and theliving room was the kitchen, was
my office, was all the things.
So the only spot she could goto get away from me while I was
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on a call was the bedroom, andthe only spot that's sitting
there was to lay in bed.
You don't really want to dothat all the time, so she was
just outside sweaty a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And then, what do the dogs do?
Do they come in there with me?
Are they going to wrestle inthe living room while he's
trying to be on a work?
Call those sorts of things.
So trying to overlap someofered on you, but it was just
kind of the overlapping spacesthat made different tasks hard.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
So, with that, what are the perks, the bonuses, the
buenos, the buenos.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Why do it why?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
on earth, would you do?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
this now that we just told you why not to.
So, first of all, I would say ahuge perk for me was meeting
some of the most incrediblepeople.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You can do that with your part-time, just less
frequently.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Less frequently.
I feel like we've got toindulge a little bit more in
that that I agree with Just theway that we did and the people
is a huge, huge bonus for me.
What about you?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So I would say the knowing where you're, like not
really truly having to pack,Like there's something nice
about it and we said this kindof.
The first few trips we tookwere around horse shows and so
we would go, you know we'd be inour site in Texas because we
always maintain a full-time sitehere and we would pack up and
head down to Waco or to Tyler orwherever else we were going for
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a horse show and she would goget the horses.
I would get there, get set up,typically, be able to go to the
grocery store and get back.
And so whenever she was thereand got done, unloading Stella
her jumping horse I don't knowwhy, jumping horse the things
that got in my head.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I hope that you're watching this and not listening
to it.
Yeah, you get the visual of myhand doing a jumping horse.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But, knowing that everything was done, you could
walk in and everything wasexactly the same for the most
part and it was just working andyour stuff was where it was
when you left it that morningand all that.
The only difference is is thetrailer moved.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And it's cooled off and the dogs are content.
That is a huge perk.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I agree with that.
They always felt comfortable.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Bailey, our chocolate lab, is terrified of her own
shadow Hunting dog Poor dog andwhen she gets really scared or
startled she barks.
Not a lot, it's more of a kindof like how some people when you
scare them, they go bah.
That kind of a thing.
I just blew everyone's eardrums out.
Everybody's ear drums out.
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It's one of those where it'slike one or two barks and that's
kind of it.
And but for her, like in thenew RV, she does that a little
more frequently still becauseshe's not, as we're not,
spending as much time in it.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
She's not convinced that that's her house yet and
Well, it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
this is the vacation house and she can hear more.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
She got um.
She could hear, uh, whenevershe was in the big RVs when we
were full-timing and got kind ofused to the noises.
So now when we get into the RVon a part-time basis, she hears
these things again and it kindof startles her.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
So I would say that was a huge perk.
Um, I think there is somethingto the simplifying.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I think that we needed to simplify at that time
and so it was a big purge and itwas a good decision for us when
we did that.
Yeah, but there is something tothat.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, it felt nice to kind of get everything out.
Look at it.
Does this really and whenyou're moving into an RV you
have to have some very seriousconversations or looks inside of
like, do I really need this?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And I'm going to be honest, I'm going to throw this
little salt in the wound righthere.
Just, is there anybody thatfull-time RVs that doesn't have
stuff stored somewhere?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I yeah, we've met people.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I don't, because I know a lot of people that
full-time RV, but they alwayshave something at a kid's house
or a little storage unit or alittle something.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, Phil and Stacey don't have anything at.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Bree's house.
I don't think Okay, I'm goingto ask Now, I'm going to ask,
I'm going to ask them next time.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I think the only thing they do there is they go
there for like I know that theirbusiness is based out of there,
and so they have mail and stuff.
And then Phil had 50-amp put inbecause if you're going to go
there and visit for the holidays.
you might as well be comfortable, why not?
I mean, I'll be honest, we'relooking at doing it at this
house, but I know that they areout there.
But you're right, at least inthe YouTube, Instagram world.
So even when you think about it, there was we had when we were
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moving.
We had stuff everywhere.
We had a lapse of like twomonths of nothing, so any other
positives.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I'm trying to think no, that was a good one about
just having all of your stuffwith you all the time your
office, or your clothes, or thisor that.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Another bonus for that would be, if you're on a
travel day and you want to stop,whatever groceries you have is
what you have, so you can stop.
And again, if you're built likea toy hauler, has a generator
on board or you've got maybe abig lithium solar package, we
would just pull over and startand make some food.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right, we would just pull over and start and make
some food Right and we had thenormal things we would have.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So, okay, yeah, there was no big transition there.
So we have been part-timing nowfor what?
Five, six months, Somethinglike that.
So what are some of the thingsso far that you love about the
part-time side of things?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
So this is kind of being able to throw the RV in
the part-time side of things.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So this is kind of being able to throw the RV in
the back and not worry about it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Well, I mean that kind of is that if it needs, if
the RV needs work or you knowsomething, that I don't have to
give up my home or get the dogsout or this or that in order for
that to be accomplished.
So I I like not being able tothrow it back there, but that
it's not also the home.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Stored with alliances .
If you're listening, Joe, theteam there.
We store it with gentle loveand care, so you don't have to
fix it.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
It was not throwed, I promise it was pushed.
I don't know how to put thisinto words, but the simplicity
of it For me.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You use simplicity in the full time, so you're going
to have to explain it a littlebetter.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
To me like pulling this up, tossing a weekend or a
week's worth of clothes into it.
It's more relaxing.
I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It feels like a vacation.
Yeah, maybe that's it, more sothan like when you live in it.
Sometimes.
I made this comment in one ofour videos at one point when my
office was in the $12 space allyou do is put a desk down, pull
a few things out and the nextthing, you know, I'm full office
mode, monitor everything, andwe were like Tennessee is a
really good example.
So we spent about a week inPigeon Forge, gatlinburg, all of
(17:50):
that stuff, dollywood and itwas really easy when we went
back to the RV, when we werejust going to rest for the
afternoon because we're onvacation, aka naps to just go
back there.
I'm like I'm just going tocheck a few emails and then,
next thing, you know, I've beensitting there for three hours
and been working the whole time.
It's like okay.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And so, yeah, I agree You'll hear that from
full-timers and not alike thatthey use it to each of their own
right that my house is with me,my office is with me.
Well, that can be a good thingor a bad thing.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
So, yeah.
So I would say the other sideof that for me is like loading
the RV, like we had to make alot of decisions on what we had
to put in it.
When we were full-time, we hadto make a lot of sacrifices for
things that were on the road.
Now we made some decisions.
We're like we're definitelygoing to use this and then,
didn't use it.
Didn't use it once, and then Igot purged at some point and
(18:43):
something else took its place,so we probably didn't use.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Um, but with this, because so this, it depends on
the RV you're in.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
But storage is odd because, like we have a
significantly smaller rv and wecannot put stuff in it like we
can't fill the spaces we can.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
We just don't have the stuff that we need in little
trips right, exactly so thereare some people.
You were talking about clothesgoing in and out.
There are some people, um shoutout to Wes and Mickey Miller um
, that leave pretty much all oftheir stuff minus like
medications in there, though, sohe's got like RV stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And in his words.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
If he had to get out quick, all he's got to go do is
turn it on.
Let the air thing fill it.
They have a motor home, um?
Let the air chucks filleverything up and they're out of
there.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And one day, when our RV lives in a little house of
its own called a storagebuilding of some sort, I may do
that, but while it's back there,not yet.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Well, and I would say too that when we moved from the
Valor into the house, uh, ourclothes situation is still very
much so minimal, like in an RV,and so we don't have the clothes
to do that.
I mean, I had to go.
When we did the, was it thecruise?
We took a trip recently?
It was, it was the cruise, andI ran out of underwear, because
I just don't own enough for aseven day cruise.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I ran out of socks and had to buy more socks in
Mexico Puerto.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Vallarta.
Shout out to that Walmart it itwas actually nice and it's
cheaper.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It was.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Everything else is more expensive, but that was
cheaper.
Were you going to say something?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
No no.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So any other positives for the part-time side
?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I feel more relaxed when we do it.
Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I get excited to pull it up.
I think that's some of it too.
Like we're getting ready topull it up here in a few days
for another trip and so, likethinking about it, it's like oh
yeah, I mean, I see it every day.
It's sitting.
We have a little bit of acreage.
We have the horses are here onproperty now, and so I can see
it sitting in the back pasturewith a fence around it, so the
horses don't nibble on itanymore.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Anymore, and so, knowing that we can go pull it
up or if I need to work on it,it's right there.
And I would say you know wetalked a little bit about
maintenance on the big rigs.
This is another side where youtalked about it from a similar
if it needs to go to adealership and sit for a while,
it can, it can.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's not a big deal.
Yeah, don't want it to no, butit can.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
But the other side of this too is I don much about
fixing stuff in the moment whenit breaks because we're still
moving.
Um, I can kind of, just as longas I can get back to the house,
I can stop get the tools I needbecause my my full tool array
is here now.
Right, I can get the parts Ineed before I ever start.
I don't have to jimmy rig it, Idon't have to.
Just if you remember, we got abullet-sized hole in our front
cap going to florida one yearand, um, I squeezed a whole tube
(21:40):
of silicone into it justbecause it was starting to rain.
Right, and knowing that I canjust get it home and kind of
clean it, go from there and froma cleanliness perspective, I
think this RV stays a lotcleaner than our old one does.
Yeah, I can see that, but weclean it before we put it away
every time like a pretty deepclean, and then obviously, if
we're on a longer trip, we cleanas we go, because dogs are dogs
(22:00):
, but all of those things.
It's a lot more relaxing for me.
Good, because I don't feel thisoverwhelming urge like, well,
we're getting there and I knowyou want to go do the fun things
, but I have a laundry list ofstuff I need to figure out.
And Amazon, that's one of thoseweird things Like I can't tell
(22:21):
you how many times I go findnearest locker near me and now
it's just shipped house, thankyou, and then it comes and then
I do the thing.
So I think there's two types ofpeople, and I'm not saying
we'll never full time again butI don't know that I'll ever.
I don't.
Is it considered full timing ifyou're on the road most of the
time but still on?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
All the questions, but I agree we may be on the
road more, but I think we'llalways have a home base moving
forward.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I think that giving up that home base was something
we both thought was fine, and,as it turns out, neither of us
were as fine with that as wethought.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah.
So the big questions that Iwould tell you to kind of
consider are are you cravingstability or freedom?
And for us, we love freedom,but I think we prefer stability
just a scooch more.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
We appreciate some good stability.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, and it's not prohibiting us from traveling.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Exactly, I would argue we're traveling more.
Based on the calendar.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
yep, we are and then just flat out can you handle
constant motion?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I'm not saying every day.
Everybody has their own pace.
There's some people that everytwo or three days move.
There's some people that sitfor a full quarter or a year in
a spot and then they move.
I like Phil's mentality.
Once I don't need the GPSaround the town anymore, I know
it's time to go, Kind of a thing.
If you're not retired, thisone's pertinent.
(23:46):
If you aren't, then do you haveany remote work or location
ties?
Now the bonus is that we can govisit family in an RV, so like
if you've got kids that arescattered across the U?
S or anything else and it'shard to get everybody together.
This could be amazing for youyou could bounce between family
members.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
If your family is all in one area and you're leaving
that area.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And that was kind of where we were.
But also, like when you'revisiting family, you can visit
them without having to stay withthem with your RV.
And that's kind of a reallynice perk.
I like.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay, how important is space routine?
And I'm going to say access tocommunity, but with a caveat.
We'll come back to that lastone.
So, just space and access.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So I think you and I actually did really well with
less space inside.
Surprisingly well.
Surprisingly well, I miss thespace outside.
I love to be outside putzing.
I want to pull weeds in thegarden.
I want to plant flowers.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
And we appreciate, because I hate pulling weeds in
gardens.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And so I I enjoy being outside and just kind of
working on those little things,and so I missed the outdoor
space of a permanent residenceGotcha I did let's say cause
you're RVing, there's outsideeverywhere, but it's not yours
right, it's not yours.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Well, and I think too , for me in conjunction with
that, is the dogs have abackyard again, and so, yes,
there's dog parks.
No, that's not always a goodthing.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Dog owners.
For the most part, dog ownersare amazing, but there's every
once in a while that one, andone of my biggest pet peeves
when it comes to dogs and dogparks is oh says, oh, but my
dog's friendly as they take itoff the leash.
And what if my dog's not?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
What if my dog has a traumatic past or any number of
things Was a rescue and I'm justnow acclimating it.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I don't know how it's going to react.
That doesn't mean it's okay.
So just the stress of worryingabout that kind of stuff
constantly.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Well, and we worried about the stability of the RV
full time with like thetemperature, If we were both
gone and something happened tothe power.
How are the dogs?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Well, and that brings up a good point, we internet
and all of that stuff.
I mean, quite frankly, it'smore expensive.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
It is more expensive.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Because you know I'm going to argue that house
internet's gotten just asexpensive as one of your options
.
But to have really trulyunbreakable I will always have
internet you have to have aplethora of internet options,
which means you're paying aplethora of prices.
Yes, exactly, and it can equalup to $300, $400, even $500 a
month, if you really just can'tbe without internet.
And then the technology side ofit stuff's always changing and
(26:25):
that's a good and bad thing.
I mean good thing because, likethere's lights, I mean the
studio setup's a lot more simplenow because technology's
changed.
You used to have these hugelights and these little panels,
but you know, in that space itgets a little ridiculous
sometimes because something'salways changing.
It gets updated, you know, andyour control center now doesn't
work all of a sudden.
It's like, really that kind ofstuff.
(26:46):
Okay, so with that, with that,the quick answer is there's
really no one size fits all.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Absolutely not, but that's the beauty of it.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Right and I think you just have to go through and you
and whoever else is involved inmaking this decision to buy an
RV, full-time or part-time inthat RV Just know that if RVing
is RVing and I think that's theimportant part there's such an
emphasis on I have to be afull-time RVer, to be a content
creator.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
No, you don't.
No, absolutely not, andWandering Weekends is a great
example of that.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
We don't know them personally, but he's built a
very successful channel and, yes, they travel, but in their RV
travel trailer, rv, hey, traveltrailer.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Well, and I think we set out with the best of
intentions.
We had some very positiveoutlook on selling the home base
at the time and going full-timein an RV and we were going to
see the things and meet thepeople and I think that we were
really excited about that and wereally had a great mind All of
the people.
We had a great mindset and thebest of intentions, and then we
(27:50):
just kind of learned a littlebit about ourselves along the
way.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Well, the cool thing about the house and being RVers
is that it doesn't change thatwe can still go see these people
and like our friends.
I mean we're scheduled to gosee like November.
We're spending some time withHarold and Cindy.
Well, I'm sure we'll see Philand Stacey in the next few
months.
That's just kind of how thatworks out with their cycle.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, we're going to see a lot of people coming up
here and see some new placessoon too, and quite frankly, we
can host our friends.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
No, we are not on Boondockers, welcome.
But if we want, you know if, ifsome of our friends are running
around town and they need asabapata park, I mean we luckily
have enough room here that wecould park a big RV um in next
door.
I don't know if we are not nextdoor, but you know next to the
house it's our neighbor'sproblem Let them, deal with it.
(28:39):
Not quite.
Don't know that we could fitTodd and Sheila's.
No, I'm curious.
No, I'm curious, I'm going totry it.
But yeah, so is it right foryou?
Let us know.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Only you can answer that.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
If you have questions , by all means reach out to us.
If you go to millersinmotioncomor rvshenaniganscom or
rvshenaniganspodcastcom all theplaces, all of them there's
actually a contact us form atthe bottom.
Feel free to shoot us an email.
And I have one huge requestbefore we let you go officially.
For starters, if you've made itthis far in the episode, about
30 minutes in we are veryappreciative.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Um, too, but share it with a friend.
Just one, just one that helpsget this out there a little bit.
We can keep conversations likethis going Um and then hit that
little follow button too.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That just lets the YouTube and everybody else know
and all the and I'm justrambling now you wonder how he
got a channel where he talksmore.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, we are out of practice.
This is only two back fromhiatus.
Okay, all right.
No, but hit that little followbutton and then just stay in
touch with us.
You can follow us on Instagramand everything's on the website.
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