79: On the LA Wildfires, An Emotional Take From 2 Locals

Just here to share feelings. We're angry at the state of the world. And at the leaders who do not care about us. We're tired, we're literally and figuratively sick. Grateful to be safe but devastated for our city. If you're an LA girlie maybe it will feel nice to hear other angelinos be sad together. <3 (Episode includes fire-related rumors that will be clarified in our next ig post, along with more info on the source of Amazon's profitability. Much sad all around these days.)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Testing one, two, three, four, five, six, seven eight. Hello,
and welcome to Sad Girls against the Patriarchy. I'm Alison
and I'm Alexis, and we are your Sad Girls recording remotely. Yeah,
I am always plague ridden. This time the Lord hath
blessed me with the flu and RSV at the same time,

(00:44):
and it's the extra terrible flu where I've also been
shitting my brains out, so yay, yay. And LA has
been on fire, so lots of great things coalescing at once.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, I mean twenty twenty five starting now with the bang,
I tell you what.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, I think it'll be a little harder for us
today to bring our usual levity to tragedy. I mean,
we'll do our best, but for lots of reasons, it's
a pretty dark time.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, apologies in advance, just all around three sixty just
I don't even know where to start.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I know people have been very caring.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I mean even just on Instagram, people are being pretty
nice about it, like two LA residents wanting to support,
giving lots of grace and space and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, it's been nice to see people coming together and
Angelina's too. I mean, it's been really really heartwarming to
see the nice stuff on my feet and not just
the misery.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
There's a really corny video all post it's like la
is everything. It's the richest people and the poorest people.
It's where your dreams came true and where they were shattered.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's like that is though.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I know, it's like times like this, it's like, oh no,
I love this stupid city.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Way I do.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I know it will get better, and we are very
fortunate to not have lost our homes and have been
immediately affected, but.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Everyone here knows someone who has.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, it's pretty devastating. I know a few people who've
lost like their homes. It's like their first home they've
ever bought and you know, saved up forever and it's
like such as this like milestone achievement and just to
have it completely gone in a day, like everything you've
worked for and just I mean I've seen people's pictures
where it's like this is my house and now this

(02:30):
is what it looks like now, and it's just ash.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
It's just nothing. It's horrible. I can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
And not that people are really saying this, but the
thoughts of like well, they're just possessions, you know, like
human life is the most important, but it's just so
much more than that. Like our stuff really does ground
us and provide for us and make our lives better.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Try not having stuff, then you'll value stuff, right.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
And it's also like memories, Like it's things you've collected
through the years. It's like nostalgia, it's pictures, it's this,
it's that, and like it shows your life that you've lived.
It's like it's just a house, but it's like this
shows how hard I've worked in my life to be
able to afford this house. And this is my shelter,
this is my comfort, this is life is misery. Let
us have shiny objects, truly.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, and today we're just gonna talk through that different
kind of episode because it's pretty overwhelming and we still
want to put stuff out there, but it's hard to
there's just kind of nothing else right now.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, it's kind of hard to think about anything else
right now when the world is literally on fire for us,
quite literally. Alison and I are very fortunate that we
haven't been in the direct line of fire man. There's
a lot of fire puns that keep popping up.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I still think that joking about it is good, Like
I really I think we have to. Some people are
not taking that approach, and maybe it's easier to joke
when you're at least a half step away. If my house,
I'd still be joking about if my house burnt down.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
That's my coping mechanism, Like that's I have to cope
that way.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Otherwise I will I mean your quote ansert your quote here?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, laugh aus I would weep in the weeping never stop.
It's gonna be like I say it too much. But
I don't expect everyone at home to be taking notes.
You don't have to write these things down. It's what
we do, and hopefully people feel a little bit seen.
If you're an LA resident, you're hearing us talk about this,
and knowing that we're all having a shared experience helps.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I would say, oh, for sure, we do have some
letters to read.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
We were also supposed to have Bree s Rig back
next week, which I was so excited about.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
But who knows.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Now today through tomorrow afternoon's supposed to be like really
high wind advisory again, Like they're worried that today it's
gonna get worse again.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
It just doesn't seem like it could possibly be as
bad as it was before.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
No, I mean that first or two when we were
doom watching the news, it's just like you would just
see it, like the footage, just these embers flying and
then like another little fire just like starting like right
before your eyes, like in the same area, and it's
just like fuck, like what what do you even do
with that? Like how do you even stop that?

Speaker 3 (05:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
And obviously the city was super unprepared and we're all
hearing about these horrible things of like there was a
reservoir that wasn't ever filled up so they couldn't use
that water, and the LAPD was defunded by like what
seventeen million last year or something absurd.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, the LAFD got it was the second biggest budget
cut that Mayor Bass did.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
To LA Yes, thank you, there's like sorry, go ahead,
oh oh that you were corrected LAFD, because I'm pretty
sure the LAPD got a ton more funding.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yes, they got. They got even more funding. And the
jokes keep being like what are you gonna do shoot
at the fire like or the dark joke is no,
they're just gonna rest more people so they can incarcerate
them and pay them two dollars an hour to fight
the fire.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
It's like, ah, fuck.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Not only is that an ethical, it just doesn't seem
like a good strategy.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Like if I had.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
A business, I want to let's think like a capitalist.
I have a business. I want to be successful. Do
I want people who are like passionate about it and
well paid and feel taken care of and are going
to give their all? Or do I want people working
for slave wages? Like I have a boss who says
you get what you pay for, Like you pay people
while you treat them well, they will perform better.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, And like all the data shows that. And I
can't believe we've gotten away from that model of working
cause it's like I feel like our parents and it's
definitely our grandparents got to experience that wur It's like
if you give them a pension, if you have if
you you know, reward loyalty, if you do all this
stuff and take care of them, give them a Christmas
bonus and all this stuff, they.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Will work their ass off for you. Yeah, Like come on,
but I mean.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Having incarcerated people. I think I saw a statistic it's
like thirty percent of the people fighting the LA fires
right now are incarcerated people and they're mostly like eighteen
to twenty five year old, and they're mostly like black
and Latino men, and they're getting paid as little as
two dollars a day. But I've some I heard an

(07:10):
interview with this guy who used to be incarcerated that said, like,
actually fighting fighters was better because prison's so fucking terrible
and it's so awful in there that you'll just take
like any sort of solace to get out of it.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
It's like, wow, that's horrific. That makes sense, and I
would do that too.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
And I don't know who I heard or if it
was on a TV show, but someone was saying, like
prison is worse than you think, Like do what you
can to fucking avoid it, because don't ever think it's
going to be an agreeable experience in any way, shape
or form.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Like it is sounds pretty fucking torturous.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
It's it's heinous, and yeah, that's I will tell you.
That's something that keeps me from doing crime often is
I know I would not survive prison. I'd be like, hey,
let's be best friends, and they'd be like, I'm gonna
kill you, and I'd be like, Okay, no, that's not
that's not a good flip that we're starting out on.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I'd have a hard time not bed rotting because I
know they don't let you just rot in bed all day.
And then I myself, I'm gonna get like ripped and
start doing pull ups, and then I'd probably just sit
in the corner and be sad instead.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
That's exactly how I what I told myself.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I'm like, oh no, I'll be able to read and
like work out. I'll get like super ripped and it's like, no,
you won't. You'll just like cry in your bunk, you idiot.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yea literally.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yes, but bad system for oh yeah, And I was
I was gonna say with the firefighters who are incarcerated,
people like there's every chance it's some like bullshit drug
charge or something that wasn't just or maybe there's just
so much that goes into that that, like I think
our listeners know, it relates.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
To who you are, what you look like, where you
grow up.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
It's not like some people are bad people and some
people are good people.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Some people just have the privilege of a waiting present.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah. I mean, it's like, if you think about our lives.
It's like, you know, we're privileged white ladies. We're just
not under a microscope, like people aren't waiting for us
to fuck up like they are if you're like a
person of color. Yeah, and I hear people tell me
personally like, oh, I get pulled over like several times
a year.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I'm always getting checked everything. It's like I don't and yeah,
there's there's so much privilege. And that goes into that.
I got into the does white privilege exist with a
family member over the holiday award? And I didn't mean to,
I know, to avoid those things, but sometimes you just
hear something so absurd it's like what I know.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Sometimes with that should I have to like leave the room.
It's like I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear it, and
I'm gonna leave, and by the time I come back,
I'm hoping you're finished with this conversation because it's gonna
take everything in me to shut the fuck up.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yes, I wanted to look at some emails.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
The girl who wrote in thank you for saving my life,
which was so freaking sweet. She just thanked us for
reading her email. Out meant a lot to her, and
we're very happy to help.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
We get a lot of help from other people too.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
And you know, it's all just about feel It's I
think a lot of times people just want to feel
heard and underst Oh.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Absolutely, it's all about community and yeah, having a platform
to feel like other people feel the way you feel.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I don't want to get into this today. I was
going to, but just the personal dramas. We've had women
write in hearing you talk about the ex boyfriend, the
expose and like these long letters and wanting to have
their own platform. Two and I just talked to someone
else who wanted to come on the pod to talk

(10:27):
about the same person and they're bad experience with him.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I don't want to live in that zone.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
But it just shows me how much people really want
to get these words out there and just feel acknowledged
and understood and relate to people.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
It helps, Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Mussirio is French for mushroom. In case anyone was wondering,
that's such.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
A cool word.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I didn't get the reference and then I just started
listening to the episode down.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, we shouted out one of our Patreon subscribers and
now we know what that word means. Umm was saying
that she listens while she does groceries gym on the
bus when she said, or happy riding a line bike.
That's love to hear that love to be in your ears.
And she was the one who asked about wisdom for

(11:20):
a breakup. She said, he broke up about a week ago,
felt pretty out of the blue, worked together, and you
told our boss two weeks prior that he planned to
break up with me, and the boss rightfully, so was
very uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Didn't want to be in the middle of it.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Christmas was coming up, and he advised that breaking up
with me now would be a bad idea.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Give it the Christmas break so you have the space
to think about it.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, don't fucking go to your boss about that kind
of thing, especially if you work together.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
What the fuck? Yeah, that's so unprofessional. I don't care
how you like chummy you and your boss are. That's like,
that's a professional lie. You don't cross I don't care
your relationship, it says.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
He also went to the effort of telling my boss
I'd probably quit, which I'm tempted to do, as he
knew I'd probably find it too hard to work with
him now. My boss looks at me differently, doesn't really
know how to handle the situation. Is taking the ex's
word as gospel. It says they work at door do
or sales job, but on the same team, and he
makes a profit off of me. The ex boyfriend does
because he's a team leader. There's probably like a commission

(12:18):
situation there.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Oh ikey icky power dynamics all around.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
She goes on to say, it's no Christmas and I
have to spend it with my abusive family. Whole other
story there, and I miss him so much, but I'm
so angry he broke up with me after it coming over.
I cooked him dinner, we had sex and went to bed.
Then when we woke up, had sex and watch Netflix,
cooked him lunch, and then he broke up with me
over the food.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Wow, what a piece of shit. He wanted to get
everything out of you first, didn't he?

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, I can't. I can't take advantage of people like that.
It's not in me. I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
No, it eats me from inside like that would keep
me up at night for decades.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Finishes up here with I hate that he's brought the
boss into it. Don't know if I can have staying there.
But I'm a senior member, although not a senior as him.
Christmas break to digest and decide what to Oh, she's
twenty two years old. Oh, biby maybe and so this
is the most pain she's ever been in regarding breakups.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I'm so sorry. I also had a big, painful breakup
at twenty two. That's such a like, it's such a
jarring age I think people don't talk about, Like your
early twenties is also like very awful.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
You've called it second puberty before. Yeah, it's heinous. I yes,
I have so been there.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
I Things affect people differently is something we just have
to understand, Like for one person to crash their car
might be the worst thing ever for another person, like
something going on with their family. It just depends on
where your internal sense of stability is coming from and
where you feel the most grounded. And telling people how

(13:58):
awful I felt her break but having people dismiss it
was like, just because you wouldn't feel this bad about
the situation doesn't mean I do not right.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
And sometimes we can't you know, predict how we're gonna
feel about our breakup, like we might think, you know,
in our heads like, oh, I wouldn't be that upset,
And then next thing, you know what, fucking rips you
to like tears you to shreds like it just you
feel what you feel, and you shouldn't feel guilty about that.
But in regard to him, I mean, I bad news.

(14:29):
He's a piece of shit, and that only helps so much.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Like it's one of those things you intellectually know, but
it doesn't make the feelings any less real.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
But I still think it is helpful too.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
At least have that consciousness, keep it in the front
of your mind.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Don't put it down. Yep.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Don't get euphoric memory, because people do that all the time.
It's when you only remember the good, you only remember
the beautiful, and it's not gonna help you to do that.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Not with healing.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
I suffer from the opposite. I'm like, I only remember
the tear terrible stuff. Life is misery.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Well, yes, that is very that is true.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
But sometimes that can be good because then it makes
you less, you miss it less, but then you miss
the person you thought he was.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
It's a whole fucking thing.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, it's that all around. I mean, breakups are akin
to a death. Yes, it's a death of a part
of your life. It's a death of, like you said,
like the stability that you once had. It's the death
of a sort of comfort when it comes out of
left field too. This is something my therapist observed, was like,
when you have time with someone to realize the relationship

(15:35):
is coming to a close, you start processing it before
it happens. And if you're the one who initiates the breakup,
you have even more time because you had this idea longer.
When you don't expect it, it's much more painful.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Oh god, yeah, I can't even imagine our advice.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
As we mentioned last time we did touch on this
was staying really busy and saying I don't remember if
we said this specifically, but like keep your friends closed,
like lean on people.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Well, it's totally a time to do that.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, this is the time to, you know, lean on
community and lean on your friends, and it's.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Okay to cry on their shoulder. That's what friends are for, exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
And like we always say, block block, block, no contact.
I know you guys work together, but oh yeah, fuck,
I forgot about that part. They work together, but it
doesn't mean you need to have him outside of work.
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, I would have a hard time leaving out of
the spite and out of the desire to like, fuck you,
you can't affect my life. But at the same time,
your mental well being is the most important thing. Sometimes
swallowing your pride is necessary to protect yourself absolutely.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
And maybe, I mean, I don't know what your relationship
is like with the boss, because you were saying that
the boss believes everything that the X says. But I mean,
if you and the boss are still cool, maybe ask
for a reference and start getting a resume together and
try try going for another job.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, it's always line up the next thing before you
leave the thing you have and decisions don't help, but
you've had some time to think about it, so you
probably know what the right thing to do. Is a
bad breakup I had in early twenties. I I did
tell my boss. It was a restaurant job, and we
were cool, and like, I just let her know kind
of what was going on, And at the end.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Of a shift she was like, so, how are you
doing with everything?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
And I started crying and she just like gave me
a half hug and was like, it won't feel like
this forever.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, that's I mean, and that's good advice too. It's
like it's hard to feel that in the moment because
it feels yeah, so raw and so heavy at that time.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
But that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I mean. Time doesn't heal all wounds, but it definitely
fucking helps.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yes, Okay, next letter saying this guy says she loves
the podcast. This is Sarah said she's been listening since
the first episode. I'm so sorry about the audio quality.
It still torments me, but she says, our critiques almost
always hit the mark, sharp, insightful, infuse it just the
right amount of levity.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I didn't mean to read.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
This out like see how great we are, but it's
it's nice to hear people like what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
She said.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
In your last episode, you discussed how ridiculous you thought,
Oh yeah, this was a goal who talked about boycotts
and the negative things I said about boycotting. I tried
to do some research actually on whether hobby Lobby was
affected by any boycotts, and I couldn't find any conclusion.
But those are the examples I unfortunately give up. Like

(18:30):
the number of people I know who boycott chick fil
A or Walmart or Amazon. I know there's this thing
of like if we all do it, it'll make a difference.
But like Amazon gets most of its money from web
services I've read, which is like platforms that all of
your websites use, and not very much money, if any,
real profits from its retail. So that's why it's like
when you just look a little deeper, Unfortunately, the impact

(18:52):
is not as significant as we would like.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, unfortunately, And I mean every giant corporation has like
other corporations they own that owns this, Like it's basically
an oligarchy, and there's like what six brands that own everything.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, I appreciate the heart behind it, but yeah, we're
just very jaded at this point and also kind of
the impending doom of the world, Like the fires are
caused by a climate change, and just the urgency of
that is very real and it's just gonna I'm sorry,
I think it's just gonna get worse, and all we

(19:28):
can do is just try to stay as as healthy
and happy as we can because the people in power
do not care enough about us to make the changes
that are necessary. I think, no matter how much pressure
we apply it's hard for me to imagine that changing.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, I think we're too far gone in our capitalist
society that the only revolution at this point, unfortunately, is violence.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Right.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
We've been asking nicely for decades and they've only gotten
worse and more evil and more corrupt. So unless you're
three D printing some guns and shooting CEOs on New
York City streets, I think that's the only revolution that's
really impactful.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
And I understand the I understand not wanting to do that.
I don't have that gene and myself either because of
the self protective nature, Like you're you're putting yourself in
harm's way there. Yeah, I don't want to go to jail.
We just said that, Yeah, literally. And it's the impact
you have on other people too. You know, your family,
if you have Everyone has some family, even if it's

(20:29):
their chosen friends, Like you don't want to put your
friends through that, either of you violently being killed on
TV or something like. It's just very traumatizing all around.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I just found out during all this the fire stuff
about that family. Oh, I forgot their names already, I
was gonna write it down, but they are this couple
in California that own like the Wonderful Pomegranate Company, the Pistachios,
and Fiji Water a couple other things, but they basically
own like a percent of California's water because they own
all this farmland to create these crops that need excessive water.

(21:07):
And this is also part of the issue that we're
having with the fires as well, is like we're farming
a sustainable crops in California and we have literal monopolies
on fucking owning our water in California. It's insane. People
own the water.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't think I watched the documentary, but I watched
a trailer for a documentary a while ago with a
line that stuck with me, and that said, whoever owns
your water owns you.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
And it's something that we'd take for granted.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
But the reality is this is not a resource that
is available to everyone, even though there's enough of it.
There's too much control over these assets that we need
to survive. They control our asses as sets.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yes, more notes on the fire that are just kind
of coming to mind, so I'm saying them out loud.
Is I am so deeply in admiration and appreciative of
all the people poll who are stepping up to help
and all the people who are donating and volunteering.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yes, if you, however, do not have.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
The capacity to do this at the time, that is
okay too, because I had a moment of like, fuck,
I need to do something for someone, but it was
just like I do not don't have the spoons, as
they say.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I was feeling that too, but I got sick, like
right when these fucking fires happened, which is the worst
timing for a multitude of reasons. And it's like I
would love like I had coworkers that were out like
collecting donations and like passing them out and like you know,
going to all these shelters, and it's like I wish
I could do that, But also like what am I
gonna do? Go there and give everyone RSV and the

(22:40):
flu cool?

Speaker 3 (22:42):
No one wants that.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
All I did was help myself to like pat myself
on the fucking back. But like you know, I tried
to donate, like to a friend, the friend I was
talking about at the top, Like I donated to her
Venmo because she's gonna have to rebuild everything. So anything
you can do at all, even sharing a post even
if you can't afford it. If you can share someone's
like lf on me or Venmo or whatever, that means

(23:03):
a lot too.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I even ask for people's help online of like link
me to the posts, like I do not have it
in me right now to even find the post, but
if you send it to me, I want to share it,
which I haven't done yet, but I will. Saying it
out loud makes it true because someone else. Yeah, of
course someone else could see that and be able to
do something. But I thought about opening my home. I
saw some people in my kind of community saying if

(23:26):
anyone needs a place to stay, and I almost texted
my roommate and thought about that, and then I was like,
I can't fucking have a person in my house right now,
like they don't. This is not going to be good,
Like this is not good.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
So I guess just.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Giving yourself that grace too, because you've got to put
your own gas mask on.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
First, oxygen mask.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
But yes, yeah, as I said it, I knew it
was wrong. But then I was like, that's actually more.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
But you could put your gas mask on though you know.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Right now you probably should, you should, you know what
you were right, I'm sorry for correct.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
I thought about it.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yes, girls in LA should be wearing in ninety fives,
especially if you're in a smokier area like Pasadena that
was more impacted.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, por Pasadena, poor Palisades, poor everybody.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
It's just it's bad all around.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
And I mean most of the city is just you know,
like waiting with baited breath too. It's like we have
our go bags ready to go, just like just throw
a couple extra things in there and ready to get
the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
The Sunset fire was extinguished right away, but that was
pretty close to my house.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
And other than that, I think you're.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
In more of a danger danger zone than I am now,
is that correct.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
I'm not sure. Really.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
They're all pretty far and we might be close to
them in the sense that our air will be shitty,
but I don't think there'll be any direct fire danger
to us.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I heard rumors of the Sunset fire was arson. I
haven't followed up on that yet, but the fact that
are lighting shit on fire is kind of nuts.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, there's a lot of arsonists going around right now, apparently,
like in my neighborhood there's two McDonald's that are like
on the same road like two miles apart, but someone
was caught trying to light the McDonald's on fire, like
both of them separately, like at the same time.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
I just don't understand. I mean, you know, some people
just want to watch the world burn.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I guess, yeah, it's just I support people in chaotic energy,
Like if you want to do something to yourself because
everything feels insane and you want to feel a sense
of like anarchy or something like, I support you doing
whatever you want to yourself, but you can't do it
to other people.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
No, And that's the thing too, It's it's tons of
people are gonna lose their lives over this if for
you to be like cool, watched it burn.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Fortunately it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
The dusthole still seems pretty low from what I've heard,
but the damage still to everyone's life life is innumerable.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, it's already in the billions.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
They think it's going to be possibly the most expensive
natural disaster in American history. Katrina still holds that spot.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
But they're like price gouging that they can do now
and increasing rents and things.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
It's crazy and that's how it's going to go.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, I mean, all those beachfront properties in Malibu, and
a lot of those restaurants were all burned down. It's like, geez, like,
I can't even imagine how much those are worth, and
how much of those cost and how much they're going
to go for.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, I could see. I think it was the hearst
fire from a hill on Wednesday. Wednesday was, from my perception,
the worst day, and then Thursday it was like in
the beginning of COVID, you know, probably like March like
seventeen ish or so, where you just started having this
creeping sense of doom and then it just kind of
came to a head. But this fault like that, but

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actually more urgent, time sensitive, more like at your front door.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I was getting the same kind of vibes too, where
it's just like, oh, well, it feels like the world's ending.
But this one felt, yeah, like you said, a lot
more urgent. It's like, no, literally, I can see the
smoke from outside.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, I've never seen a fire like that. I hope
I never do again. It looks very angry, and I
know that's not how it works and that's not real,
but it just looked yeah, like I don't know, big
fires eating things up.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Man, it's quite.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
It looks like an act of god in a very
like like seeing a giant monster where they called Kaiju's
or something, you know, where it's just kind of unfathomable
what you're looking at.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, it's like that. Yeah, but it will get better.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Everyone has to keep I really feel like you just
have to keep reminding yourself of that there's there's lots
of support out there. Again, it won't feel like this forever.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, Pasadena they always get it rough. I feel like
there was fires right there, like Altadena and the mountains.
Wherever there's a fuck town of trees, there's gonna be
much greater chance.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Which sucks because it's like, you know, you want to
live somewhere pretty with the tree and you know that
has nature around it. But in Los Angeles that means okay, well,
if we're in a drought and it hasn't rained for
eight months, like your risk is so high, which fucking sucks.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
You shouldn't have to.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Like choose between where you want to live and that
kind of danger because also it's like anywhere you live
in La could have a fucking earthquake, Like there's danger
all around.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah, it's it's unfair.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
It's unjust that people should have to make those kind
of choices and compromises because you expect to have city
infrastructure that protects you. With all the fucking things we
can do these days, you can't fill goddamn reservoir with water.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
And that's the fucked up thing too.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I mean, it sucks that it takes an event like
this for people to find out how corrupt and fucked
up things really are. But maybe this will elicit some change.
I'm trying to be optimistic.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I mean, yeah, I was gonna quote that meme that
was like, oh, yeah, you know, COVID will change the
way we do such and such much in the same
way that Sandy Hook changed gun laws and much in
the same way. And it just reference like a bunch
of horrible crises that didn't lead to change.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Once Sandy Hook happened and we didn't do anything, I
gave up on us having any gun reform at all.
I was like, Oh, the country that loves baby so
much that we keep taking away women's rights to choose,
but when actual children, living, breathing, walking children get brutally
murdered with guns, we don't do anything.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Okay, got it?

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Me be so discouraged about like, well, nothing ever changes.
Isn't a good attitude to have if you want change,
We're supposed to stay angry and we're supposed to keep
shouting at them.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
We have to, I know.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
And that's what I keep trying to tell myself too,
because God, would it be so much easier to just
like not care, not be informed, just like live my
life and my own little bubble and just like do
my day to day minutia.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
But no, yeah, I can't. That's good.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I think I really just did not get the activist
gene at all. And I just like it's not really
appropriate to just bitch and complain and sit there on
a podcast and white about.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Things and then not do anything.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Like, if you're going to complain, you should at least
you should make your efforts. I just it's again that
like capacity thing. It's like, if you can barely take
care of yourself, how are you supposed to take care
of your city too?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah. I can't be in the middle of a protest
right now.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Guy. Oh No, I've never I've literally never gone to
what I'm kind of ashamed of saying that, Like, I'm
so glad they exist but I don't know. Maybe it's
like part of the survivor thing.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
My mom really like drilled in her head.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
She thought that the Holocaust was going to happen again
at any moment and that we would have to like
live through that. So it was very much like prioritize
your health over other people's and she's saying it because
she wants to keep me alive. And there is a
balance there where if you don't do things to help
other people, who will help you when you need it.

(31:02):
But those kind of scenes, like the people getting angry
in crowds, I'm like, no, that's for someone else, Like
I don't want to get tramp oled or shot or something.
I'm gonna let someone else do that. But if we
all say that nothing happens, well.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Thankfully, there's enough people in the world that do like
to do that and do feel good about doing it
and feel empowered when they do it. And I feel
like those are the people that also like going to
music festivals, which I also don't like doing. I don't
want to be outside in crowds like people.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Nah, no way, I don't even want to be outside period.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
So no gross outside yuck.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, I tried going to Wasteland weekend. I think I
talked about it already. After two days, I was like,
I have not had a shower, there is no computer time, Like,
please make it. Everyone around me is like having the
fucking time of their life, and I just wanted to end.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, that's how like my nightmare.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
And I was like, Alison, you're gonna hate it.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
It's good to try every thing, though, if as long
as you don't have a huge aversion to the idea
of something. I think it's great to taste the rainbow
and then you can connect with other people over those
things if you've sampled the world.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
That's what I always told myself too.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
It's like I can't say I truly hate something unless
I've done it, tasted it, you know, seen it, whatever.
It's like, I want to know from experience that I
hate it. I'm not just a hater for no reason.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
We are educated haters, right exactly. It's like my hate
comes from a place of education. I've actually experienced this.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
I hate it. I hate especially curated.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Truly, speaking of someone to send me a video of
Elon Musk, like in these different pictures, a number I
don't recognize just texted me and says hello, nothing else. Hello.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I love those that's the new scammer thing. I love
it when they I love it when they try to
like make you want to text back, like hey, I
had a really good time last night and you're like,
who is this It's like, no, don't, don't respond.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
They're baiting you. Yeah, never give away that verification code.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
No, not to anyone.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Oh sorry, Elon musk I got derailed posing with his kid.
It was not posing, but like everywhere he goes out,
it was saying that since he started working in government,
which I don't even know what he does, it relates
to government.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
I don't know what a government is.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
He's the Department of Government Efficiency, which is abbreviated DOGE.
Like his fucking like the fucking coin. He's so goddamn cringe.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Anyways, continue he is bringing his kid with him, and
the theory is that he's using him as a shields,
which is honestly smart, Like I kind of you know
in that, like I want to acknowledge, like that's really
fucking smart, but it's also despicable at the same time.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, these people are deplorable, Like they are comic book
level super villains, Like you're like, there's no way anyone's
that evil in real life.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yes, they fucking are, and they're right here with us.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Because can you imagine having the capacity to help so
many people and instead you just sit on your pile
of gold like dragon exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
It's like you you could solve so many of the
world's problems, but you're like, no, I'm gonna make this
post and make everyone laugh at me and my super
funny post.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Ha ha ha.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
The people I know who do respect him, which are
mostly like my family members, they think you so innovative
and like so clever, but then you just see a
simple takedown that's like, no, these ideas were not his,
Like this idea was stolen, Like this is not actually
a good solution to anything.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
This failed falls apart. Yeah, he's also like a false promiser.
There's tons of videos where he's like, we're gonna have
fully self driving cars by twenty twenty two, and then
it's like by twenty twenty five, by twenty twenty eight,
and it's like okay, moving the goalpost. Like he just
says things and then makes people work towards those goals,

(34:54):
and it's like, no one said that that was possible.
You're just shouting shit out because you want an applause.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
My friends who don't make very much money are still donating.
Like I said, know so many people who are not
living very well themselves, and they still do what they
can to help, which is the part of having that
capacity and just watching the world burn around you.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
It just doesn't I can't relate to that now me either.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
It just it also reminds me of that meme where
it's like rich people will venmo you for a dollar
twenty five and poor people will give you the last
twenty dollars out of their bank account.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, how do you lose that empathy? I mean, I
understand survival, but it's just like at some point that
dollar amount becomes metaphorical.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
It's not a real concept.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Once you amassed over some millions of dollars, now could
buy an island, Like, you don't need any more fucking.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Money, right.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
I know it's more complicated than that, with stocks and
investments and shareholders and lobbyists and super packs and all
that shit. But it doesn't have to be so complicated
that so many people die. But hopefully people are at
least feeling like Oh I connected with that. They're saying,
I didn't mean to just do it depressing like the
world has gone to shit episode it has them.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, it has.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
That's what we came here to say today, right, that
was our attention. We set our attention for the day.
We woke up and were manifesting the world is.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Shit and it's just really in our face. In La,
it's hard to ignore right now. But there is also
this very collective sense.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Of care that'll go away.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I remember vaguely right after nine to eleven kind of
my mom talking about how kind everyone was being, like
how united.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
It only lasted like three weeks. Sorry, I keep.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Trying to say something good and then shitting on my
own point and making it Dark's.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Easing well, because I mean, especially in our lifetime, it's
like we've seen this time and time again, where there's
some sort of semblance of hope and it's just like okay,
and now on to the next story.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah, in LA, if you were if you aren't here,
which probably most people listening are not, because people have
been texting me asking what it's like. It's a collective
kind of shared consciousness of grief and trauma and weight
and loss and it's really affecting everyone and that will
get better.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Right now, there is a lot of support.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
There are so many businesses that are like you can
come in whenever you want, you can charge your phone,
there are places giving away things, there's a million go
fund me is it doesn't feel isolated at all, which
is the nice That is the nice part.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
What's the mister Rogers quote, Look for the helpers in
like bad situations. There's a lot of helpers right now.
And there's a lot of like restaurants giving away free food,
and like my favorite wine place was like doing a
donation drive and they're like collecting stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
And they had too many donations. They had to stop.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
They had to tell people to stop bringing things in
to donate because most donation places are almost becoming full
because people are just like pouring out from with their
hearts like donating, which is incredible to see.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
And people from outside the city too.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
You know, I'm seeing articles of like firefighters coming from
other cities from Mexico, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, Canada and Mexico, Arizona. I mean, shout out to
all the firefighters that are coming in and helping us out,
Like that's an incredible.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
What a sexy job too, by the way, Like there's
nothing not sexy about fighting fires in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
And firefighters are cool. Like no one says, you know,
fuck the firefighters, like you know, no.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, that really like live your life in such a
way that people don't say, like all insert profession here
are bad. Something's going wrong if we're saying that, right,
it's like, no, firefighters are great. Maybe just maybe that's
what I should do. I could be a firefighter. That'd
be cool. They probably make good money right.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
In La. In La they do, No, in La they do.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's one of the few places they do, but a
lot of I don't know about La, but I know
most other places to be a firefighter, you also need
to be a paramedic.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Highest mean salaries are California. You're right, it's about ninety grand,
and then Illinois is also one of the top salaries,
which is seventy five thousand, which is a lot more
money than I've ever made. But compared to other jobs
and how much risk goes into it, that does not
seem right.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, a lot of jobs that are high risks don't.
They're preying on your empathy, Like that's the thing I've
noticed about like with nursing too, it's like this job
fucking sucks ass and it takes everything out of you
and you have to have a degree and like all
this stuff, and it's like, again, California pays the most,
but it's like you're preying on people who want to
help and you're gonna pay them as little as you

(39:35):
possibly can because you know that they're going to do
it because they're good people.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Supervillain level wrong.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Well, when you know healthcare is a business and for profit.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, yeah, there were other things I wanted to talk
about today, but they were all like personal and crisis
really does put things in perspective, and that's another you know,
horrible silver lining of like you realize how much you
have to be grateful for when you see what other
people lose.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
For sure, my.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, this is kind of twisted to say, so hopefully
it's something people relate to and that makes me feel
justified in saying it.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
But I was just having a horrible mental.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Health day last week Tuesday, like the day before the fires,
and then Wednesday when it was like my house is
in danger, like I'm driving my cat out of town.
It wasn't immediately in danger, just enough that I'm like,
I can't leave my cat here, Like that's not now.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Ye'd bay that it was. It was getting scary. It
was good.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, Like I was looking at the map someone was
showing me, because I was very blase about the whole thing.
Someone was showing me the map, and like every time
we looked, the line got a little bit closer, like
in a horror movie, where like the blob is just
like creeping down the road and that's not where the
fires were spreading, but just the zone of like you
should leave for your own safety was expanding. Anyway, Wednesday
was the second worst day of my week, and that

(40:58):
was like felt selfish to say, But like Tuesday, where
I was just in my own personal hell and the
fires hadn't even started yet, that was even That was
so much harder then. That was so much harder for
me to reconcile and to solve. But if you don't
have any personal tragedies on a regular basis of some kind,
which I know a lot of our listeners do, what
if like every week your sky was on fire in

(41:21):
your head, like that part kind of sucks, That.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Would very much suck. That would be fight or flight
at all times. I'm so thankful, just like screaming into
the wind.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
That's pretty much. Yeah, that's pretty much what I do.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
I think gratitude can be a good remedy for anxiety.
Not that that's a cure all, or that people with
anxiety should just be more grateful.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
It's not that simple.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
But at least for me, reminding myself, like how much
you are blessed helps take.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Away some of the anxiety.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, for sure. I have to catch myself doing that
a lot. When I starting to spiral and go down,
it's like no, no, no, Like think about like living in
your dream city, like you have a roof over your head,
you have like stable employment, like come on, like these
are these are great things, and like a lot of
people in the world don't have half that stuff you

(42:12):
just said.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yep, it's a tragedy of the human experience. I think,
to both feel sorry for yourself and your situation while
simultaneously knowing how much there is It's like the feelings
are still there. But I think a lot of the
people in our lives are trying to be selfless and
trying to be aware as much as we can.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, and acknowledging those feelings, I think is the important thing.
Don't ignore the feelings that you're having, and don't guilt
yourself over the feelings that you're having.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Don't be like, I know it's so.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Much worse and you know whatever over there place, but
you know acknowledge that you do feel that way, and
it's okay to feel that way and then do what
you can to try to move from that point.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Agree. There is a podcast.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
There was an episode on the Hue Woman Lab podcast
where doctor Anna, somebody who's a psychiatrist, was on talking
about neuroscience, an addiction, dope me and all that cool stuff,
and she was saying, so Hubanman Lab Anna Addiction will
take you to that episode if you're curious. But she
was saying that it's just uniquely hard to be alive

(43:21):
now and like ever before, because in a lot of
places our needs are actually met. So whereas before all
of this, like mental capacity would be taken up with survival. Now,
if you're above a certain amount, you can have your
needs met without leaving the house. And that's differently hard
for us.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, because I think about that too, like when I'm
when I'm having like a panic attack or I'm like
feeling super anxious. So I'm like, there's not even like
a fucking bear in the woods right now. There's no
reason for this to be happening. Like, am I so
understimulated that my body's just like I need to be
in flux, Like I need to be freaking out because
there's no bear in my life.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Ever, No, she we might enjoy this episode too, because
she specifically says some people need a higher amount of
stimulation or like a certain amount of intensity, and if
they don't have it from their life, they'll create it.
And that's yeah, that's that's a it's a brain chemical
thing like so many things are. And she was saying

(44:22):
that it's not necessarily that there's something wrong with your brain.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
It's just not suited for the current world we live in.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I mean, I agree with that. I'm definitely not suited
for the current world that we live in.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
No, me neither.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yeah, like my therapist saying there's a problem with how
you experience the world, like this is a very overarching
statement that.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
I'm sure a lot of our listeners can relate to.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, there is a problem that we experience the world
you write, Yeah, with with the current crisis, people are
being more gentle with everyone's mental.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Health, which is really appreciated.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
It's bad all over, but giving each other grace And
that was like the difference between Tuesday and Wednesday for me.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
And I really hope this doesn't just sound selfish and shitty.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
But it was like now when I'm like tearing up
in public and like looking like a mess or saying
insane things, people are like, well, it's because there's crisis
going on, Like there's an understanding of the way other
people are feeling, and that is good.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
I would say, we're all coming together and being empathetic
with each other.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yes, I should do that all the time.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Like in COVID times, I was part of a Zoom
group for dance rehearsals, and it was like, whatever you need,
like if you need to cancel, if you need to
call out at the last minute, whatever you fucking need,
like you just take care of it. And we are
doing that now and we should. Honestly, I'll always do
that for each other as much as we can.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I know, we don't need to hustle all the time,
you know, like we're here for a short amount of time.
Let's be kind to each other. Let's enjoy our time here, Let's,
you know, appreciate what we do have.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
And what's that meme? It's like a damn it.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
It's like something about frolicking in the fields, Like I'm
not supposed to be at a computer writing emails. I'm
supposed to be frolicking in the fields.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Right, or like I'm supposed to be a lizard on
a rock. So yeah, I personally I do not feel
I do not feel that way myself. I appreciate other
people do, but it's I want to like I would
do well like at war. I think I would do
really well in like high stimulation, high risk environments that
require calm. But I haven't made that work for myself either.

(46:41):
Even though there are lots of jobs that could provide that,
I have not pursued them.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
So that's stupid of me.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I mean, yeah, I think a paramedic firefighter would absolutely
do that for you. That is adrenaline junkie job to
the extreme.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Doctor Anna in this episode said that impulsiveness isn't even
bad in certain environments, like in crisis situations, like there
can be times when hesitation will be your downfall, and
there are situations where impulsiveness is exactly what you want.
And I think that even being a paramedic, I think

(47:15):
there's overlap there of like just the need to have
total confidence in your actions, being sure that they are right.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
That is like a very good expression of that.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Yeah, so interesting episode, interesting stuff to think about. Like
what we started with with a listener letter no totally
derailed lost my train of thought. Oh yeah, things being
differently painful for people where it's like maybe a breakup
for you. When I was crisising in front of someone
after a breakup one of my girlfriends, she.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Was like, I feel really bad for you.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
It's just she was kind of like, I do not
feel this way from breakups, Like she couldn't relate to it.
She wasn't being demeaning, but it was just like this,
this is very a very different experience for me. And
I think I always have to remind myself like just
I would feel a certain way, there doesn't mean they're
going to feel anything like me.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I think that's part of growing up too, though. It's
something I have to tell myself all the time. Or
it's just like you can't compare yourself to other people,
Like if you think this is like not a big deal,
might be a huge deal to them, Like or your
threshold for this might be super high and there might
be super low. Like it's just we all have to
like come back with compassion and empathy. And I mean,

(48:27):
was this person being kind to you in this moment
or they were just kind of trying to grapple with.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yes, I was just like crying in someone in front
of someone and she was just and maybe even meant
to be kind of comforting of like I don't understand
this level of pain that you're going through, but I
see it's very real.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
There's a silly.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Line about like just because you have the same amount
on your plate as someone else doesn't mean that they
have the same kind of plate.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
They might have a paper plate. You might have a
really nice, solid dish, right, you don't know. Oh, the
look the Health pers thing.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Friend of the pod now we can say Paul Telfer
because he's been on our podcast Days of Our Lives
star Paul Telfer. He posted look for the Helpers and
showed where he was volunteering and like working with the
Red Cross and everything, and that was cool.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
So shout out to our homie for doing the work.
Thanks Paul, you're doing it.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Thanks to everyone who is doing it, because I'm sure
lots of people listening have done whatever they can in
whatever form that means, however much you're capable to do,
and it is seen and acknowledged.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yes, very much, thanks everybody. Someone message to be like
what could I do to help?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
And I was like, leave us a Spotify review, which
just so fucking tacky to say it, but you know what,
that don't make me feel better? But no, actually, first
you should like donate to the Red Cross. But if
you particularly curious, what we.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Need right now? I want a four point nine baby.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Right, we want we want to get our ratings back up.
But maybe you should look up the charities in your
area that passes that are doing the work that you
find most rewarding.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Yeah maybe that. Yeah, how to help us is to
help our city. But I think we should. I think
we got it all out there. I think we hopefully
people can connect with this and feel a little better.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
And you're always welcome to write to us. We read everything.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
I don't have the energy to reply to things, but
I read anything. We'll read anything out which shout out
whatever you're doing if you want, like fuck it, man, just.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Let's let's help each other out. Absolutely. I am missandres
Memes on Instagram, and.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
I am t xcoth Geff and we are Sad Gaptop Podcast.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
It's so hard to do when we're remote with the lag.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
I just I have to sync it up later every time,
I have to like move it so we say it
at the same time. You just you just have to
do it confidently though there's still a baby lag though
I will this time.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
But it's okay. I know, I know there's a lag.
I'm saying. You just you just have to keep going.
You you're right, you did not stop yourself. You're all right.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Let's try that again. And we are sad Gap Podcast.
It's hard, it's okay. The listeners will understand. You can
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You can visit our website sad Gap dash podcast dot com.
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(51:21):
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Speaker 3 (51:30):
Sorry you cut out? Did you? Did you finish your speel? Yeah?
It was weird, but it recorded so okay. It fro
so okay. I just want to make sure.

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Speaker 1 (51:51):
All right, we are sending love to all of the Angelino's.
We appreciate everyone's support.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
We are here for each other, that's right, and we're
stronger together. We'll see you next time. Bye, b