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February 21, 2025 69 mins
Special guest episode with the fabulous Bree Essrig! Most importantly we want to highlight the movie she wrote & produced, “Sugar Baby”, now streaming on Amazon Prime! Other topics include~ our failed attempt to record last fall, cosmetic procedures of the anal variety, lady-driven movies we’d love to see, how to deal w/ criticism on The Internet, planes crashing, OF model marketing, polishticks, and beyond.

Find Bree on instagram at @breeessrig ♡

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hi, Hello, and welcome to Sad Girls against the Patriarchy.
I'm Alison, and I'm Alexis and I'm Bree, and we
are your sad girls back together again. But for you

(00:30):
it's the first time.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, there's some laure already know. We got a story
for you.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Wow, I'm so nervous for my first time.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
I've never met her before ever. We tried renting.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
A studio closer to where Bree lives because I thought
that was like the pro move to be like, welcome
to you.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
We'll get a nice studio, it'll be great. Oh my god,
the experience was terrible disaster.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I did not review his peers face listed because I
just there were too many hateful words in my heart.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
I didn't want to slander him. I felt bad.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
He was nice, but he did wreak of marijuana.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
And he wasn't the guy who manages the rental. There's
the guy who manages the rental. And then alex Is like.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
He's supposed to be like an audio engine Like I
don't think he's audo engineer, but he supposed to be
like an equipment tech and like alson, I knew way
more than he did. He was like not helpful at all.
It was very exhausting. I don't know any other words.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
At least we got some practice in we.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Did so true.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
I want to pull up the sample of the recording
if I can find it, and it'll sound even.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Worse over everything, but scared.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh it's mostly me, very funny. I don't think Alexis
is Mike was.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
I don't think it was on.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
That's so annoying because I sound like Timmy and like
far away. So I think I was getting picked up
on like your mic.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, so there's just like a weird echo and a
reverb and Alson's on the phone.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
I was on the phone. I think I tried. I
entertained the idea of editing it or releasing it as is.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
But if I was to release it, I would want
to try to edit it, and it was just gonna
be it was gonna be worth it.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
So let's see if this hello and welcome girls against
the patriarchy. I'm Alison. I agree, and we are your
sad girls. This is the most fucking chaots. It's just
Alexis is like, this is fine. I'm on the phone.
We should have all recorded on our phone.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
We should have yeah, but then you have kind of
an echo to where am I.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
You do sound far away, but it doesn't sound that
that bad. I was like, I just.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Accidentally paused our recording because I thought I was pausing
one of my laptop and my laptop away.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
It's okay, we got.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
It all in there. We did it, We're doing it.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Our standards are high, you know, as women who have
to fight their way for their place in the world.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I got drunk afterwards, so I had a great time.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
That was fun. We did have fun. Do you like
one drink?

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Like by fair enough, wasn't it? It was like happy hours?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
I was like, oh yeah, I'll get another one. It
was happy hours so cheap.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Do we still have our notes of what we were
going to talk agree about last time? I think I
ended up talking about or should we just we should.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Just like to pretend none of that happens.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
So funny.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
I just got a.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Text back from someone from Hinge. Oh yeah, so he said,
I'm nine to five currently my son.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
He has a kid step mummy, and I was like,
I was like, I'm kind of into it.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
It's like you get the fun of kids without ever
you know, the commitment.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
My son also just came home for the next three months,
so I'm with him most nights, but the grandparents are
all the grandparents are always happy to babysit. We're already
talking about the grandparents.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, that's a that's a reality for people. Okay, how
hot is he on a scale of one to ten?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
We must know.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
So the prompt that I liked the most is like
things I learned in therapy, And it was a voice
memo and he did a very very straight reading of
somebody once told me the world it's gonna roll me
and I hate the sharpest tool in the shed.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
And it was just the.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Most like convincing.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, I was like I was expelled balance, I'm.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Like, what happens next?

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Like the ice we skate is getting it's getting pretty thin.
It was a monologue.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
You know what. That actually makes me super sad because
that means that I'm old enough to have kids now,
because when I when that song was popular, I was
like eight.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, I think we're all roughly the same age. No,
that's what I have except for a mind like all
of us about that. It's we are old enough to
have kids that are like in middle school.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, wild I think we didn't kill me for long enough.
Oh wait, no, no, here's his picture. Okay, it just
went to like the hidden here used girl cancer. You
don't have hinge works right?

Speaker 4 (04:33):
You know how?

Speaker 3 (04:34):
It actually never used hinte?

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Okay, Well if you send him any how does it work? Do?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
I just hit the So.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
That's why I'm like, I don't know how these were.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Oh oh he's cute. Yeah he's very hot.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Worth it?

Speaker 5 (04:50):
You can call him fine, Like that's cool.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
I don't like guys daddy.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Hot.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I always did guys who could be my father, and
I have issues with my father. I don't want to
go the next step. It's like, if they were a
few years older than me, it's one pig. It's different
if they're fifteen years older than me.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
So what you just call him sir.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
There's a lot of things besides daddy.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
You can coffee, you salute him.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
So that's him and his son on the beach up
and yeah, he's like you know, he's got dark hair,
which is.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Way better than a blonde. Blonde men, I never trust
to he's cute.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I'm weary of the number of pictures he has with
his child on the on the hint he has two
he has two kids.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
No, he has two pictures with his child.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
And yeah, that's too many. That's a little too many.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
One just to make sure they know personally.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I'm like a no kid, like, oh, say it don't
show the picture of your kid right like.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Face to be fair, it's like a cute picture.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's like they're on the beach and it's like behind
like holding hands, like it's very sweet.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
But then he didn't need this. Oh that one, No,
we don't need that one.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
The kid is on his shoulder, they're facing forward. Yeah,
the first one where they're both kind of facing away
and the.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Kid, you just get the idea of a kid like he's.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
There, but there's no face. That would have been enough.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I think it's attractive if a guy's like a good father,
because then maybe you know, he won't be a total
piece of shit. Maybe maybe he might have emotional maturity.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Maybe maybe maybe I think that was what kind.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Of was interesting.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
And also if I like to date older, I'm realizing
that like, oh, guys in their forties kind of pretending
to be divorced and have children, or they're confirmed.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Bachelors who are completely emotionally unavailable.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
I read somewhere that a guy who is divorced in
his forties is more likely to get remarried than a
guy who's never been married because he doesn't want to
get married otherwise he would buy that, and I was like,
I'm not like trying to get married, but I'm also
not trying to date emotionally unavailable avoiding people. Yeah, I'm
seeing a child. How emotionally avoiding can you be? Birth's
a human very emotionally in.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
What do they say about men in their fifties then
they're dead?

Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, it's too late for that gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I just had a dream about what's his name? Never mind,
he won't land if I can't remember his name.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
That one guy from Jurassic Park who's like sixty, Oh Jeff.
I met him and still didn't register. It was not
a sensual dream.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
It was like a happily married dream, like in the
kitchen baking cooks were making him.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
You're like here, darling.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
I woke out and I was like, oh, that was nice.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
He's hot, But hearing him singing Wicked was an egg.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Okay, he sings, though I used to go I went
to a shoot people in stage.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Sorry, he's a really talented musician.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah yeah, but hearing him sing that specific song in Wicked,
I did not know.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
He was in Wicked. I haven't seen it. That's that's
giving me the eck a little bit.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Not gonna lie, sorry, yike.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
What did we hate about him singing in Wicked? He
just did a terrible job.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
He was just talk singing.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Oh that seems like him. Yeah, very arrogant, Like I
could get away with this.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Oh, isn't the villain?

Speaker 4 (07:58):
That's right. I did know this well.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I asked a guy last week that I already told
our listeners about.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
I met him on a job and I.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Thought I was being kind of obvious, like, hey, like
you should come to one of my shows, Like I'm
doing this thing on Friday, you know, if you want
to go, like friend me on Instagram kind of a thing.
Someone had done this to me, I would have known
what was up. But he messaged me like, oh, I'm
not trying to make it.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
It's like, oh, it's a little too far away.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I just put it out over Instagram. I didn't want
to dance around it anymore. I just said, oh, well,
if you can tell if it wasn't a parent I
was trying to ask you out.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
You have no fucking idea.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I'm actively not dating men right now.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
This is good. Yes, I think we talked about this
last time and you were like, ladies are where.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
It's at it is, But I also am like not
dating anyone just because I'm very emotionally unavailable right now
and I don't want to put a woman through that.
You know, that's mature of you. Thanks still open for.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Sex, So.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
I mean that's what we wish men would do, though,
is just be overt about that and just say like, oh,
I'm not available to date, I'm just hooking up instead of.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Like, oh, I'll pretend that I love you for three months.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
It's so crazy. I know they all do that.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I asked the internet why they do that, and I
had a guy respond and say, it's because I didn't
have any tools, Like I didn't know how to say
anything else. I wasn't taught how to manage these kind
of situations that are in between. It was either you
are fully in or you're not even talking to them,
so I just want to sleep with them. I have
to pretend like what.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Do you what?

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, and I'm like, what are you what? Are you
talking about figure that out yourself? You have words, you
know how to like to communicate your needs if you're
a grown ass.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
Adult, Like, there's there's no excuse for that.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Just be upfront.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
A lot of people are down for just hooking up,
like that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Like the dudes that think that they have to pretend
that they're in it for the long game just to
hook up.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
What a piece of shit. Yeah, just beaut a fucking adult.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Most of us are actively just looking for friends with benefits.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yes, none in my whole You know, you have to.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Really be my friend. No that it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
We can say hi when you come over, and buy
when you leave, and we can leave it at that.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
That's yeah, most sleepovers.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, really get out.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
I was just gonna pull up a listener letter because
we already read it and talked about it.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
But she responded, and I just wanted to hear everyone's kind.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Of organic response to this, just to see if it
aligns with what.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
I told her.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
So, this is the gal who was going through a
breakup and says he broke op with me a week
ago felt pretty out of the blue. He had told
her boss about it, and they worked together yes, remembering this.
So they still work together and she's feeling really lousy.
He broke up with her after coming over on a
Saturday night. She cooked him dinner, they had sex, went
to bed, woke up, had sex, watched Netflix. She cooked

(10:38):
him lunch, and then he broke up with her.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Oh, he was.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Planning to break up with her the whole time and
did all that made like, she cooked him food and
they fucked twice.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
And he had talked to the boss about it, and
now it's creating this very uncomfortable situation at work. She's
twenty two and she's a senior member of their team
in their job, and then he also works over her,
and so it's just this terrible situation. So we read
out this letter and we're like, girl, like, if you
can leave the job due If not, you know, maybe

(11:06):
just try to avoid him at all costs outside of work.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, And she.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Said the situation has gone a bit left field, so
I thought i'd update you. Yes, oh my god, organic
responses here. We started seeing each other as friends with benefits,
so he was the one who wanted to be exclusive,
and then after two weeks of this, he said he
didn't want to be exclusive anymore, but he wanted to
keep sleeping together. So now we're in a weird state
where I'm just fucking my ex and we work together

(11:30):
and are trying to keep it a secret even though
people have started to notice. I have to work in
his team, so I can't go no contact. I have
so many close friends at the store door sales job.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Leave them, but I know I can't stay here without
falling into bad habits. I feel like I owe it
to the company to stay.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Oh, you don't owe shit to that company.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
If you drop dead on someone's doorstep, they would fill
your they would post your job on fucking Indeed dot
Com while your body is still warm.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
You don't owe them shit.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Hold on, do they offer benefits? How good is the
health insurance at this company?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
She seems happy in the job, you know what they right,
They might have something to offer her.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
It's true. I said, do not have sex with your
Ax's not worth it.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Noaps, It's never worth it.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
And that's that's I feel like so many dudes get
into that where they're like, oh, we're breaking up, but like,
you know, they know that you still want something, so
then they know that they can get something from you,
and that perfect thing for them is they can still
fuck you and they can still go fuck someone else.
You're just falling into the trap and it's not healthy,
and you're not gonna get over him, and it's not
going to end the way you want to do it,
and you're not gonna get back together.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Just those letters back to back of like I'm suffering
so much from this terrible man and happy to be
around him, and then like and now we're sleeping together
again and I'm even more upset, Like.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, girl, it's the worst I've been there where it's
just like I still wanted to be with someone. I
was like, yeah, like I can totally be cool about it,
like I'm a cool girl, like whatever, Like it was
not it was not cool.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
It was cool.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, I'm the queen of shitting where I eat, So
I'm not one to talk like I have fucked at
least one person from every single job I've ever had.
It never works out well though.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
By the way, in person, bre has this very like
level sweet kind of gentle energy and then you start
talking and you're like, also.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
I'm a witch.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
I'm a horrible woman.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, that's the best, but we hope she leaves.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
She also mentioned PTSD and eating disorders, So times are
tough around here, toxic situation.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Makingeah, I feel that's so hard?

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Is CPTSD chronic post traumatics? That what the C stands for?

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Complicated?

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Hold on complex? Complex?

Speaker 3 (13:41):
And I think it's it's complex.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
I was like complex.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Compl right, but like all those things too.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Chronic complicated complex? Yes, wow, it's that. We wanted you
an episode on eating disorders, but neither of us. Maybe
we exhibit some disordered eating, but we don't fall on
have any disorder.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
So I feel a little. I don't want to intrude.
I do.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Great, We'll bring you back for another one.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
It'll be a special episode.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
We could do a guest segment too. We could do
like the researchy bits.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
And then we could be like and now bringing on
it a local expert, first hand experience.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, it's interesting because I'm also a sex worker, and
that's like one of the negatives about my job is
no one should have to look at themselves. The amount
of times today I have to look at myself, like
taking the photos and editing the photos and then wanting
to look like the edited photos which I don't actually
look like that exacerbates that for sure.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
We got into so much of this good stuff last
time and now yeah, so now I'm thinking we'll put
it on our Patreon behind the pagod idea and people
will hear this and be like, wow, I want to
hear their juicy stories.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
I'll give them five dollars. Yeah, and then I'll forget
to cancel and I'll give them five more.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
It's our secret ploy this whole time. This is a
long con.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I don't love Patreon though it's okay, great platform.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
You use it for your things.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I used to. I used to people were unhappy with
it with I wanted to do, you know, really artistic
photo shoots where I hired photographers, make up artists, hair people,
and once a month I was doing that and they
were like, we just want you to take selfies in
your room. We don't give a shit the amount of
effort you put into photos. So I was like, Okay,
then I guess I don't need Patreon, just a free

(15:23):
only fans.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Did they want more nudity and risque or did they
really just want to see it like you kind of
behind the curtain, behind the.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
I think oh okay. They more just wanted to be
like a girlfriend experience.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
They wanted to feel real, like if someone's sending them.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
These that's like a lover. Yeah totally.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
But I just king I don't want people seeing those
pictures of me, Like, I don't want them to see
me unless I look fucking fire.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
I know, no one.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Yeah that's tough. I mean nude I've ever sent my
entire life.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's like I put up like the tripod and I'm like,
uh huh lighting and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Oh, I'm gonna get out, do a video and take screenshot.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Yes, I feel like everyone knows this already. But you
do a video and you do like a post and
a pose and a pose and then you scroll through.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
That's the secret, it really is.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
That's how you get.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
All the angles. Yes, And it's like so crazy because
you know what every piece of your body looks like
from every single angle, which is like no one should
have to know what their behole looks like.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Like ever I do.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
I want this information though, I need to know if
it could be better. I'm not going to bleach it,
but like I'll shave.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Please don't give me constructive crisis. My butt hole, please,
just for myself, to myself.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
I'm so tempted to bleach it.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Does that what? I guess, I don't even know. I
know that's a thing.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I guess it doesn't turn like white like a baboon
with a different colored penis.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, I don't do the whole picks, so I don't
haven't bleached it yet because I don't do it. So
I'm like, what's the point? Would it just be for me?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
So I found this so a lot of like bleaching
your butthole is not like I mean, I think you can,
but I think a lot of it's also I don't
know if you guys have this, like in areas where
you shave, especially if you're like a lighter skin tone,
it causes like irritation and it gets like darker. So
a lot of times, like your armpits, for example, will
be like a little bit darker from where you shave them.
So like a lot of people when they shave their
butt cracks because yes, women have hair in their butt cracks.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Oh yeah, it.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Gets darker in that area because from the shaving. And
then like also like the shaving, so then your skin
is like a different shade than the rest of your skin?

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Why is it gray?

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Though? You know? These are the questions at night.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
There's a sex worker that I follow on TikTok who's
super funny. She has been posting lately about how, yeah,
every woman has skid marks in her thong and I'm like, no, no, ma'am.
I've never had a skid mark ever, unless I was
like sick, I guess, but even then, I'm like, I've
ever had one.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
No.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I think last time I did was like I was
three and I was like figuring out potty training.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
It was like a learning curve.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Everyone in her comments is like yeah, and I'm like, no, wipe,
I have a bidet.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
I have a little wet white lots of solutions here.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Okay, you're a wet wipe berd. Do you flush them?

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Look, I live in an apartment. I don't own this
place fair enough.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
So you only found like vaginal lightning. I didn't find
any pictures of anal lightning on Google images, but interesting
looks like around the labia dura.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, that's the.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Big ones, the major Wait.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Can I see that? I guess? Oh wow?

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Yeah, you know they.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Both look good.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
They all before and actors both look equally good to me.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Neither is bad.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Either's bad.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I can send this to you, you know if you
want to please research. Yes, maybe if I don't like
bleachin is but like lightened maybe bleached just kind of street.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
To speak, yeah, future, because yeah, they're not you know.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I wonder if it's like the opposite of tanning, and
it's just like you could do just like one shade
lighter instead of like three shades.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
This is Yeah, these images are not helpful. Google Images
was not the place to go for this.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Google is not the place to go anymore period, Right,
it's just Reddit.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Answer to something type your question than at the end redd.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
It doesn't really have a lot of photos for medical procedures.
I feel true. I'm not going to porn hub. I'm
just not going to do it well.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
When we don't take notes, we just talk about lightning
our assholes.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
So I mean, this is theory the organic shit people
are coming for. And I pulled up my list from
last time I found it the same day.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, we haven't had the same things. I know, we
talked about the movie you had written. And I want
to make sure everyone, not just our patreons subscribers, have
a chance to go check that out.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
Yes, tell us about it.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Thank you. It's called sugar Baby originally good Girl. We
had to change the title. The distributors thought it would
do better if we called it the plot of the
movie instead of the title that we actually liked.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
What was the title you actually liked.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Is good Girl?

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Okay, Yeah, that's a much better title.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
I think so too. And like they did the trailer too,
and a lot of spoilers in the trailer, which not
stoked about, right, But yeah, we premiered it in October.
It's now on Prime and Apple. You can rent it.
And yeah, it's pretty good. I mean, I don't think
it's the best movie ever made, but it's it's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
But I think it's amazing because you did you directed
it too.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Right, I wrote it. I wrote it and produced it,
produced it.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
That's right. I mean, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
We should have watched it before this episode. That would
have been smart. I want to watch it.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
I do.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
It was on my I have like an ongoing list,
and then my brain like shuts off when I do
certain things, like I compartmentalize way too much in my life,
Like there's podcast brain, and then there's work.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
Brain and then there's nothing brain and.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Fair enough nothing in between. And yeah, and that's it.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
It's a good time. It's really sexy. It's an erotic thriller.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Helly.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
So the actors are really great in it, Mary Beth Burne,
James Tupper and you know, Bloomgarden, they're great. It was
a good time.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
And you said this was kind of not completely based,
kind of based on your experience as being like a
sugar baby in the past.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, I was a sugar baby in my early mid
and late twenties.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
I guess the whole time.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I guess the whole time.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
I was.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, it's loosely based on my experience. Yeah, and it was,
you know, my excuse to make a movie for and
about sex work that doesn't villainize sex workers. Right, No,
sex workers were murdered in this movie.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
That's big. Yes, that's huge. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I was just about to say, I was like, they're
not getting murdered or being victimized or any of that.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
It is a thriller, though you think they might at
some point.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
But keeping us on the edge of rcy.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, did you watch Diary of a Call Girl? I did.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Did you like it?

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah, it's fun. Billy Piper, right.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, yeah, the Doctor and Rose AKA, Yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Why I watched it. I just watched Doctor Who, and
I'm like, I want more Billy Piper. Wow, this is
really different.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
There are a lot of great stories about sex workers,
like Sola is one of my favorites. It's probably my
favorite a twenty four movie.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Actually see it because I remember the whole because I
was based on the Twitter thread, right, that girl just
like oh my And I remember reading that, like when
it came out, like I read not on Twitter, but
like someone had all the screen grabs and I remember
reading the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
I was like, this is fucking bonkers.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
When I heard they made a movie off and I
was like, oh my god, I have to watch it,
and then I never got.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Around to it.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
It's so good, and Age twenty four sells the transcription
as a book, so you can read all the tweets too.
It's incredible.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Oh my god. And we could do a recap of
that as well.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Nora.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
I haven't seen Anaora either.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
I mean I've been bad about movies this year.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I just saw a Companion. It was so good.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
I want to see that dude, like funny.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's with the girl from Yellow Jackets and that's Jack
Wade from The Boys.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
All right, I saw TV.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Yeah, this is for hell. Do you watch TV?

Speaker 4 (22:42):
I do?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Okay, yeah fuck it?

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Oh yeah, she likes TV.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
I don't like it participated in media like that.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
No, I just don't like sitting through movies and then
by the time I get into it, it's over. With
a TV show, it's like, Wow, I'm investing like twenty
hours into this storyline, Like I am very captured by it.
I'm watching Silo right now, which is good.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, I watched the first season. I think it's better.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
In the second season picks up okay, and there's no
day sex's not gonna I love when there is a
female character, especially who is in this terrible situation anything
any moment, someone's gonna swoop in and fix the situation
for her, and instead she just like leaps over the
rail and like breaks her.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Arm and runs away.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
I first noticed this in Orphan Black, where touching on
a Mazzani's character.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Now that it's TV, I'm like, oh, I have someone
to say TV.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
But she's like trapped in a boardroom and she has
to go out and give this presentation that she can't do,
and you just you think someone's gonna rescue her, and
instead she like finds some hand soap and just guzzles
it down and then goes out and like vomits all
over the table, and it's like gotta go like, hell, yeah,
fucking genius, Like, oh yeah, you can't argue with that.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
No, yeah, sorry, guys, I can't. They let her walk
out without any argument.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
So it's yeah, those kind of things, especially when it's
a female character.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
I love when they just figure shit out.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Oh you're gonna love companion, then okay.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yes, only if we will review it for the pot
then I will see it.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I think probably my something it'd be a good candidate
for the podcast, just based on the I've just seen
the trailer, but it looked good.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
So we also was thinking about watching Silo.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Is that I would like to see a movie where
there is a female character who's actually not as strong,
but she has a stay at home husband who's like
kind of in the background is the mastermind. You know
that trope where it's like there's the guy the politician,
but it turns out his wife is holding holding the
puppet strings. I want to see that switch. And it
might sound anti feminist because in this example, like the

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man is the smarter character, but I think it's okay
to have a man smarter than you as long as.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
He works for you. Ah, he's the underling.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, but because you know, he's trying to build her up,
he's not trying to take her place. Just like in
all these movies, the wife is never trying to like him. No,
she's just trying to support him. And it's such it's
in silo too. It's just such a common trope where
it's like you find out like the wife was actually
the one who had.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
A whole time.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, let's do that, but switched that idea. Yeah, there's
hardly ever stay at home dads and movies.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
True, although work in moms is pretty good, it's not
but there's no like diabolical schemes happening. But it's definitely
about working women and their husbands who are just like okay,
just there, just there.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yeah, I like that, should we take a break, let's
do it?

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Okay, no planning here. This is like when you go
in a photo booth and you don't plan with your girl,

(25:33):
is what you're going to do?

Speaker 4 (25:33):
In advance. I never do three too.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
What I was gonna ask you, Brie about dealing with
criticism from people on the internet, because I'm not.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Good at that. I don't like I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
And I'm assuming since you've had a longer history of producing, creating,
and promoting your own content, you do have people occasionally
unfairly who don't like it.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Oh yeah, everything I post is criticized. It's just like,
at least we're at the point now a lot of
people just move on. They just scroll past your video
instead of leaving a comment. But because I started YouTube
in two thousand and nine, I was nineteen, that was
the worst time to be on the internet. Yes, yeah,
that was really rough. I actually have like a folder

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on my computer of like the first five years I
was on YouTube, the worst comments I ever got. I
like screenshot at them and saved them just so I
could look back and be like, Wow, that sucked. I
don't know why I think I have a.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
Humiliation that's not auchistic.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
It is. Yeah, it gets It does get easier the
longer you do it. I mean now things just kind
of roll off my back. I feel like you can't
be a public person if you if it's going to
ruin your day. I really can't take it personally anymore
because a lot of people are just so misguided and
the things that they say are not the things that

(26:51):
I am fixating on about myself, but sometimes they are,
and that it stings.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
But those are the worst ones.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
It is the worst. But it's also like that person
must really be feeling like shit about themselves truly, because
like I never feel compelled to leave a hate comment
even when I hate something.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Move on.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
I move on so fast, And so then I realize, like,
if someone needs to do that, then they are feeling
in some way horrible, because yeah, I've never once had
that desire, so yeah, they just must be in a
really dark place.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
I feel kind of bad empathetic view of it.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
I like that, Yeah, it's easy to I feel like
for me personally, it's like it's easy for me to
like logic myself into that like same thing, just.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
You know, you know this and tell yourself, like, don't
take it personally and that it's not about you.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
But it's like my feelings are just like but and
it's so hard to like shake it. I feel like
once I get upset I can't shake it.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
Yeah, I also have.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
This desire to be liked that like, as I get older,
it kind of diminishes a little bit. But sometimes when
someone leaves a comment that really hurts, I'll like message
them and be really nice to them, and then they'll
be like, I didn't mean it. I'm so sorry, and
I'm like, did I just do that to make myself?
Like I didn't make myself feel better. I didn't do
it because I actually care about this person and that

(28:04):
makes me feel bad. So it's just like, yeah, don't engage.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Right, and that's what you should do.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
But I have heard that from multiple people that have
some sort of like big page or whatever, when they
talk to that person one on one and be like hey, man,
like whatever, like just.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Talk to me like as a person.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's almost like they're dehumanizing you, like they're not thinking
of you as a real person.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
So it's easy to be like, you know, kill yourself.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Idiot, or like whatever the fuck they're saying. At the
moment you're like, hey, I'm a real person and like
what's going on man, They're.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Like oh shit, fuck. Oh.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
It's like the road rage thing where it's like it's
easy to get mad at a car that's doing something stupid,
but the moment you see a face, you're like, shit,
that's a real person totally.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
It's like when men get rejected, they immediately just call
you fat and ugly.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
Fat, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
It's like two seconds ago you were on your knees
begging me to do literally anything just to speak to you,
and now I'm ugly cool.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
They're so uncreative, Like anytime a man calls me a fat, ugly,
stupid hohor bitch, I'm just like, can you think of
another one of these five? Like anything more than these
five insults? Like I would be just more impressed, Like
you're being so creative right now, Like I love this.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
For you percent. There's one comment I got in like
twenty ten that I still remember to this day because
it was so funny. Someone was like, this girl is
like watching Kelly Rippa struggle to find her identity. And
I was like what but so specific, But it was
really funny at the time. I was like, yeah that energy.
If you're gonna be mean, be funny about it, right.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Be creative, Yeah, make it super specific.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Like the more specific something is, like, it's funnier but
also like hurts more, but also at least it's great.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah, or if I'm being like self deprecating, that I
can bring up and just use it myself something I
can steal from you, right, give me the content. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
We had done an episode on whether women really do
date for money, and the answer was it's one of
many variables that were important, and it might be evidence
of other qualities that are valuable. And we pulled up
some psychs to that are like, yeah, people who are
more financially stable often are also more I think it
was like conscientious or like disciplined or something.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
But someone put on our discord.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
They said that wealthy people have good qualities and people
who aren't wealthy, you have, don't have those qualities, like
those kind of like bidirectional logic, and I just had
to jump up and be like no, for when we
were just reverencing his study.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
And the other part of this is that it doesn't
go both ways.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Like you can say that someone who has money may
have certain good qualities. That does not mean that someone
who does not have money does not have those qualities.
That's not but I mean it was on our discord,
so it's obviously someone who likes us. So I was
nice about it, but someone else commented, or maybe it
was the original poster. They replied and said, you know,
if you're gonna put out hundreds of hours of talking,

(30:48):
you know they are going to be people who disagree
with you.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
And I was like, I don't like that reality. I
know it sucks.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
It does, especially because like we do so much research
in like most of our yeah, subjects are so like
compl catered and like convoluted, So it's like when you
have it down to like one sentence, we're.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Like, yeah, we put an hour plus into this with
a million sources and like approach us from all the angles,
and what you're saying isn't even true.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Society is so individualistic at this point. It's like everyone
needs every conversation to be about them, only it's kind
of weird.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I think a lot of times that I've been guilty
of this too sometimes, where it's like you're almost waiting
for something to like latch onto, and if you hear
just like one thing out of like a plethora, you
can like pinpoint that and like be mad about it yea,
or like like you don't have it, you know, verify
what you were saying.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, but it comes across like a tone policy. It's
like having a conversation about homeless people and how you
can help them, and then someone in the comments being like,
we don't stay homeless, we say unhoused, and it's like,
let's argue semantics instead of actually figuring out a reason
to help them.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, right, that works with homeless people, like hands on,
boots on the ground.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Maybe boots on the ground, boots down, it boots down.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Hands on, hands on, boots down.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
That's how she helps the homeless.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
That's the way we like to help with like outreach
and like distributing supplies. And I asked her and she
was like, no one gives a flock because she's like
do you think these people care?

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Like, do you think someone who is in this situation
gives a shit what you say homeless or unhaused?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
No, they want a home, right.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, literally give me a home so we don't have
to have this conversation.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeah, it's stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
We're getting into politics sometimes with like it's like I
want to talk about it when but when people get hung.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Up on shit like that, I'm just like, we're not
having a.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Fruitful conversation and you're like, this is not the point,
and if that's all you're getting hung up on, like
you're not in the right head space.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I know.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
And it's also trying to be like it's like performative
right where it's like, yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
Know the right thing to say, it's performed, look at me.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
It's like, no, we're not. That's not the conversation for
that shit.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
But people who comment on our discord listen to us
and like us, and that means we like them.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
Oh no, we love a default different yeah, different conversations.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, if you're listening, girl, I don't ever mind a
call out. I do, Actually, I really do mind a
call out, but I'm trying to train myself not to
mind it and just to approach it like, okay, this
is feedback and maybe we should have been clear. That's okay,
it's okay.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
We hate the rich, Yeah, don't worry. Yeah, I'm not
saying rich people are good. I'm saying perhaps they are
more attractive in certain situations because they are more likely
to have certain desirable qualities.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
See how much less fun that is to say.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
I mean, I was a sugar baby and I was
dating both rich and poor people, and they both sucked
in different ways. Everybody's everybody kind of sucked. I mean,
is it nice and having my own money now, yeah,
I can date whoever, but it helps if somebody else
has a little bit of money or at least just
a job. Yes, just to have a job. I think

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that's it. You don't have to be rich, be like
a little motivated.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
That's what we always say.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
It's like, I'm not expecting someone to be rich, but
I expect you to do something. And that's passionate about something,
have drive, have like something you care about.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
That's so attractive.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, even if you're in school and you're like if anything,
you're giving money to school, you have negative money, but
like you're you're going towards a gold totally.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Another one of my notes today for things to talk about,
which is just that when Trump was talking about the
DEI hires causing the plane crashes, I immediately.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Thought of this quote we heard when we were researching.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Vocal fry, which is this old white guy on NPR
who was talking about how only women use vocal fry
and how terrible it is and how it's just them
some and he said, I don't have any data proving this.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
I simply know him right.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
And I'm going to put that on my wall. I'm
put that on my bumpers sticker. I know data, I
just know I'm right.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
I just know it.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
That is so crazy because that man is obvious. Never
seen any reality TV show, Probably all the men have
vocal Yes.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
We learned that more men, in fact, in younger generations
do And it depends, Yeah, it depends on if they
have them read text or speak spontaneously.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
But in a very scientific.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Study, they're laying down on the phone with you and.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
You're speaking from personal experience.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
You know, you know I'm right?

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yes, yes, see, that's one of those.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Like when a woman says it, it's fine. When a
man says it, it's not kind of a thing.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
So yes, I.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Don't know if you want to keep talking politics, but
so crazy, it's so crazy right.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Now, it's getting extra scary.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Like my husband, who's like obviously lying my politics, but
he's also kind of like a non alarmist, like he
was always like everything's going to be Like anytime I'm
like freaking out, he's like everything's going to be fine.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Like we're good, we survive the first round gets from depression,
Yes it is, but.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, this time he is like freaking the fuck out wow,
And he is like, not like that at all.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
He's like, this is literal Nazi shit.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I'm like, you always make funny when I fucking say that,
and he's like, it is it is literally Nazi shit.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
I was like, I have that saying that, like, the
fact that my husband's freaked out.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
For me is like the Canary and the cold alarm,
like fuck, things are so bad. And he's very like
he's on red It all day, reading you know, articles
and ship and I'm just like, fuck, it.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Is so scary. The plane crash stuff is tripping me out.
I'm supposed to fly this week. I'm nerve it to
the UK.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Oh god, are you flying? Sorry, that's my new thing.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
Are you flying an airbus or Boeing?

Speaker 3 (36:36):
I don't know, okay, shack, I don't don't think maybe,
don't look, don't don't. Is it one of those things
where it's like, you know, how it was safest to
fly the day after nine to eleven? Is it one
of those situations where it's like, because there's so many
plane crashes's actually safer to fly now, I mean, no.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I would think that, but then we keep having them. Yeah,
I had like three in the past two weeks.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I listened to the New York Times podcast The Daily
about on the plane crashes, and what they said is
that it's due to just like general mismanagement and budget
cuts and inadequate staffing for the last regulation for the
last like ten years, like it was nothing current. They
were just interviewing air traffic controllers and they had a
woman on who was saying, like, I've done intensive reporting

(37:19):
on this, and people have been saying four years we
are doing this like de staffing, this poor management, this
is going to lead to destruction. They had like nineteen
people working in that department when one of these crashes happened,
when the minimum was supposed to be thirty kind of thing,
Like they had one person who was reporting to the
helicopter also reporting the plane. They were supposed to be
separate people Like just that alone significant and the purpose

(37:42):
of all this at the very end, she said, And
now Trump is saying it's because of DEEI hires.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
However, we have all.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
This evidence to the contrary, and it isn't placing blame
on one person.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
It's just generally the trend of like.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Let's pay people less and put less money towards safety.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
That's a good plan. Well, and that's the thing too,
that's like Republican policies. They want to deregulate. They want
to get rid of the EPA, they want to get.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Rid of OSHA. Now it's like under the microscope for them.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
They want to do all this deregulation. It's like this
is the product of deregulation. Regulation exists because people fucking died. Yeah,
those statues are written in blood.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
That was powerful.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
I stole that, but thank you.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
But the crazy thing to me is like why are
MAGA so defensive of Elon Musk? Like we didn't elect
Elon Musk? Like what, he's not American? Why were you
yelling about deporting immigrants, But you're defending Elon Musk.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah, my family loves him.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
They're always When the fires were happening here, my mom
was like, Elon Musk could come up with some brilliant
invention to like put out the fires and save people and.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Stuff things out it. And I'm like, he doesn't come
up with us. I don't know why she.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
My family's pretty smart too, but someone said something very
profound that was like, intelligent people are not less vulnerable
to write propaganda to ridiculous ideas, they're just much much
better at justifying it and like finding logic around it.
And whenever I talk to my sister and she gets
really fiery and starts like throwing studies at me, I'm like, fuck, man,
I can't like shoot this down the way I would
with someone else, because you are fucking educated.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
You just went the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, it's hard, and families so hard it is.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
But I was talking to them about how they think
it's a huge problem that we're making like a live
action how to Treat Your Dragon movie, and there's an
Indian woman being cast as one of the traditional Viking characters.
And I had to say, yeah because it's such an
accurately actual Yeah, the dragon is normally Yeah, because it's
such a like historically correct story. And she was like, wow,

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principal the thing. And my niece was sitting there and
she's fifteen years old, and as my sister's going on,
boy like and snow, why I'm just gonna be played
by a Hispanic woman?

Speaker 4 (39:46):
I was like, who cares?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Like, why do you get version, but it's like not
American and like we're remaking it, but we're doing it
for the wrong reasons, Like we're just trying to prove diversity.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Is going to solve something.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
And I just kind just kind of exasperated, not angry,
just like I don't understand why you have so many
feelings Disney movies. And my teenage niece chimed in. I
know teenage are so impressiable, but she was.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Like, yeah, why do you care?

Speaker 1 (40:12):
She was like, wait, what do you mean, Like she
like it had never occurred to her that, yeah, because
she was stupid.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah, I was like, it's so stupid.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
It's stupid that we just have more reboots.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Yes, that's exactly true, but that's.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
The argument that's so trick. It's like this shouldn't be
a thing anymore.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
Yeah, be mad about the right reader.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
I don't need another Dumbo. I don't need another song
at Star Trek or Harry Potter, although good.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
Girl, Yeah, I'll take all the Harry Potter's That's fine
with me.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Okay, Okay, transphobe.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
Weird separating the art from the artist.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
I can't get out for Harry Potter. I will always
love it. No, matter what. But I hate her.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
I hate her with a fiery fucking passion, and I
like that the three main actors have like told her
to go fuck herself. Yeah, like none of them talk
to her anymore, Like no one does because she's fucking insane.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
She's insane.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
The Black was so.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
That was so funny. Oh my god. I love being
on the Internet.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Sometimes I get really mad at the Internet and I'm like,
the Internet's a cesspool.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
And then other times I'm like, but where.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Would I be.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
Who would I be fundamentally as a person, Yeah, I
would know nothing.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I comfort blanket. Also, it's my weighted blanket. Yeah, suffocates me,
but it also comforts me.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Just growing up on the internet, Like I remember just
being like from like eleven to now, just like could
not get enough of it.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
Yeah, going to internet cafes like.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Oh yeah, so I could like check my MySpace at
the at the smoothie place that has like internet and
we're like, oh my god, this place is so cool.
I can't check my MySpace because we.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Didn't have internet on our phones, taking the cord out
of the phone line, putting them in your Emacs computer
so there were no phone calls.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
For your computer time. That was better.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
I missed MySpace.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I missed the space every day I wake up every
morning and I'm just like, why why Tom?

Speaker 4 (42:05):
You were a friend?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
I know people left because it kind of did start
going downhill because he sold it.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Yeah, it wasn't good. Jay came up with my bumble y.
I guess.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
I don't really know it was him, but it felt
like it was because it was current pictures. He did
have the MySpace picture on there, but he was It
was like, yes, it's really me. No, I cannot help
you get back into your account. And then it was
these pictures I didn't see anywhere else on the Internet.
When I googled him of like him now and it
linked to his photography Instagram. I feel like that's what
he's doing now. He's just sleeping on mattresses full of

(42:35):
cash and just like taking pictures and kind of having
a successful Internet presence because of his history as Tom. Anyway,
he didn't swipe right on me, so we didn't go out.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Uh huh, I forgot to. I didn't write him a
message though. I got too excited.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
I was like, oh shit, I totally want to go
out with Tom, like that would be a laugh if
it's really him, and what if it's a catfisher, I
would have fallen for it.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
I have to say he probably sucks.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
He probably does well. That's why I also believe he
was on bumble. He probably doesn't have a woman. Yeah,
I wants to go out with him.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Yeah, that's why he's here.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
But I just missed that old school, like fluffy social
media that was there wasn't. We weren't learning anything. We
were just it was asking to each other.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah, like I love your profile, pick PC four PC,
how to code in HTML?

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Yes, And looking at all the cute, quirky indie girl.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Outfits, finding like really obscure bands that like Flex be
like my band on my like the song on my
profile is more obscure than your song.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, Flex a girl I had a big crush on,
and I went through her playlist of music because she
had like a little media player with like ten songs
in Coco Rosie and Regina Specter are still two of
my favorites, and I got that back in two thousand
and six.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Hell yeah, Coco Rosi good stuff.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
I They're not super well liked. I feel I love them.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
But when I like Google them for some reason. It's
all like two out of ten stars.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
They're so weird.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
They are weird.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
He's a cool. They're great. You know.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
I know that I'm not familiar with their work, but
I've heard of them.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
I guess they could read his pretension because it's like
these two girls who just kind of wear coookie outfits
and like warble around operatically.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
But it's wonderful.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
It sounds like the York great.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
I love York, so yeah, away.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Up a lot of that. It's a lot of that
I'm soul recommend.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
I heard they were problematic, though, but I haven't looked
into it because I want to ignore it.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
I see that sometimes I want to live in my bubble.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Don't tell me how everyone's problematic.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
I know people suck.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Everybody sucks.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
It sucks.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
Like I suck.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Like I get it. I don't people know about me.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
We all suck, That's what I'm saying, Chris Brown. I
think want of Grammy the other night, So.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 1 (44:41):
There was that only fan models who had sex with
a thousand guys yes day? Was she very famous in
her world? I guess I don't know the context here.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
I think That's how she became famous. So she started
doing these like gang Bang number right.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Day because I posted something that was like, all I'm
saying is you could never find a thousand women to
have sex with one guy in the same day, And
then the next side was like Luigi and Gioni, where
it was like, Okay, maybe you could this one, just
this one fucking is like sex eyes and his like
orange suit, and I'm like, yeah, I get it.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
That is such a good point.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
I see it.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
But someone commented and said, well, what about Chris Brown,
Like women were paying to get their pictures taken with him,
which is like, are we still idealizing Chris Brown after
all that.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
People really love him?

Speaker 4 (45:29):
People love him?

Speaker 1 (45:30):
But also you could find a man who a thousand
women want to have sex with in theory, like conceptually,
Jeff Cold.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
I'm sure he's old, whatever he's.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Been around, he has got a whole like twenty to
fifty five age range fan base, I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
But they wouldn't all be local.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
They wouldn't all be like going out you could, you
wouldn't fly them out like I feel like this model
just like put out the call locally. I don't think
it was like people flying in to do this. They're
just like local man goes to have sex with women
right after the other dude did.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
I have to say, I think a lot of the
of those types of scandals are just advertisement. It's just marketing.
I don't think they actually have sex with that we
do see. I think they'll just take videos of people
lined up around the corner, and they probably have sex
with all those people. But I don't think it's like
a thousand now, just.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Like a select you Yeah, how do you prove it?
It'd be a long video like are we having it?
Like sex to completion for all the dudes, Like how
are we doing this?

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I think for it it's like yeah, I think she
said each person had like two minutes. I think a
lot of people need to realize that a lot of
of models. That's how we market our content.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
I think it's a genius, even it is rude to me.
I just like pictured it happening. It was like what commitment,
what hard work? No asking about it?

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Our social media managers tell us to rage bait? Hell yeah,
that's like how we get successful.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
That is the most interaction.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
I feel like when I'm doom scrolling on whatever social
media platform if it's like something rage inducing or like
the fake Reddit.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Am I the asshole?

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah? And like half people are like this is fucking
karma farming, like it's not even fucking real. But it's
like the more rage inducing it is, the more clicks
you're gonna get, the more comments, the more people are
going to be engaged and enraged.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
That's why articles don't post any information. They just post
the headline and people just go ape shit in the
comments about like one little quote.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Right, and they don't fact check it, and then the
other comments are like read the harticle.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like, no, they're selling us to do
that because it gets yet every time.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Yeah, that's how they get their money. The more clicks,
the more money they get.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Writing comments just take so much effort, Like we were
saying earlier, like I'm not I'm never mad enough to
write a comment because I don't have that long of
an intention span. Yeah, I just want to keep going,
even with things related to miss Andre and feminism and patriarchy,
and I don't when those things cross my feet, I'm
just like augh, I'm just gonna post my story so
my echo chamber can validate me.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Fuck you.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Yeah, that's my activism.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
I do love leaving comments, not hateful ones, sure, but
it also does help with my engagement. Though they tell
you to like comment onto every comment you get. Go
on celebrities pages, leave comments, get the likes, get people
clicking on your page.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
This is true.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Yeah, if I was more serious about building and following,
that would be smart.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
I don't I delete.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
When people post inflammatory things, when guys post it, because
I just don't like that.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
I don't like that energy. Yeah, and you're coming to
my page. Yeah, you're in my space.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Go away. I don't like you. But that is counter
productive when it comes to the ALGA the alg Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Yeah. It really does depend on your intention because if
you just want to create like a fun space, that's positive, right,
you can meet like minded people, then I would just
do what you're doing. Honestly. It's also nice when your
followers kind of like gang up on that you don't
have to do anything.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
Yes, I like to leave that.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
That's fine, right, It's like you do it if by
the time you get to it, it's already turned into
like your followers like just ripping into someone Like I'm
gonna leave that up to pel.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
Jackson with the popcord.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Yeah, just like that gives all my space to.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yes, okay, were you affected by the TikTok blackout of
January twenty twenty five, Of.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Course I was. I made like really slutty posts as
like on the last day, so I was like, they're
going to delete it, so I may as well just
like direct audience to my only fans. And this second
it came back, I was like, oh, my account's probably deleted,
but no, okay, And I heard that a lot of
of people are now finally able to be uncensored.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
Trump question Mark.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
That is the only positive from the band, but it
also is like an app for children, so it's like,
I get why we were censored in the first place,
but I don't know. They're showing like Kanye's wife at
the Grammys, and they're showing like the full THINGEP on
social so it's like.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
But as naked, like there were kids. There's there's literally
a picture of her.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
It's like from the side and someone's coming from behind
like the step and repeat.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
It's a little kid like.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
It's like a ten year old.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Boy and he's like doing one of those like check
and he's a general boy, Like, I mean, you carry
that out at him.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
They're not at the met Gala.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
I feel like that's an opportunity to do that, I guess, right,
But there's so many families.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
That go to award shows together.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Why would you want that?

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Especially the Grammys.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
Like it's Sabrina Carpenter's playing like stuff that kids do.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
I mean, I listen Spriingda Carpenter too, But like you know,
kids are engaged in like music more than they are
with like stuffy art house films like the Oscars or something,
you know what I mean, Like they're more likely to
tune into the Grammys as far as like a prestigious
award show.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Yeah, how do you not get put on like a
watch list for that?

Speaker 4 (50:35):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Like I'm worried about what's going to happen to her, yeah, genuinely,
Like is she gonna get Like I'm guessing if she
was gonna ge charged, probably would already happened by now.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
But you're rich, They're not touchable.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
I mean, Kanye people still love Kanye.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
I still love Kanye, right.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
So crazy, Well, obviously we all know it was a
publicity stent for Trump to constantly be pushing to band

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TikTok and then being the one to.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Bring it back.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
But in terms of the lack of censorship, now, is
that just that extension of like lack of regulation. I'm
just we're not gonna censor in any direction. Maybe because
someone was saying that with the new changes to meta,
maybe you can post more blanket statements about men, because
I can't say, like, even if I just say like
boys are stupid, that gets flagged his hate speech.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Yeah, because it's an all encompassing.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
It has to be like I don't like the way
boys make me feel when one of them are stupid,
And it's like, okay, we're dancing around it, but we're
saying the same thing. But are they going to be
changes to those kind of rules that will at least
affect us positively.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
I'm curious to see how that goes too, because if
I don't get shadow banned anymore, that would be amazing.
But I also feel like you're gonna suppress political ideologies
like left and right, So it's like, at what cost
we'll see?

Speaker 4 (52:05):
I realized we forgot. I forgot to introduce you much
at all in the beginning, because we did last time.
So in my mind it's already happened. When and done.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
I had head to go.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Backwards and be like, tells about yourself that I lost.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Lost the plot.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Just nothing going right today except us. We're going great,
three of us dream team Hell yeah Abba Lexus.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Oh first line.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Espick is a content creator, digital creator, internet historian.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Perhaps Oh never been called that, but I love it, okay,
I think so. I am chronically online.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, chronically online, like being queen, like making content since
you said since like two thousand and nine, if not before.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
I am an o G YouTuber Yeah, which makes me
sound so old and I am.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
Yeah, it's okay. And we're not young and hart either,
it's gonna say, but young at heart.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
No, no, no, there's an eight year old woman in here.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
You're as old as you feel. I'm an old crown.
But your handle is Bri s Rig on Instagram, right.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Br e e E Yeah that's r I G. It's
not great. It's my name. It's like, people are like,
why did you do that? I'm like, it's my first
and last name put together. Yeah, Like I should have
put a period in between. I really should have because
people are like three e's that's insane. I'm like, sorry,
my mommy.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
It will be in our in our show notes, in
our caption, so you can find her there, and you
can find the movie, which we wanted it to be
called good Girl, but it's not right.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
It's sugar Baby.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Okay, that's okay, I agree with you, but it's good. Yeah,
yours was better, but it's not.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Bad, thank you. The poster is really crinn we made.
The director's husband made an incredible poster, he's a graphic designer.
And then the distributors used their own I don't know
what program they used, but it's like bright and like
colorful and like I don't know, it's like there's like
sparkle effects on it, and I'm just like, this looks
like really bad. So if you see the poster and

(54:19):
you're like, I don't know about this movie, sorry, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
It's still good. You just don't have control over that.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
You don't. No one tells you that, Like, can you
post it on your own like we posted, we posted
the original the one we liked.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Okay, Yeah, you should get to say if you created
the work, you should get to say how to present
it marketed it to the world.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Yeah, it's when corporate takes over creative. It's not great
higher creative but fuck me, I guess.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Right, what do I know?

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
I feel like that's a lot of my struggles as
an artist is being like, if I could just create
art like unfettered, just like do what I want whatever,
that would be great.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
But it doesn't work like that.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah, there's rules, there's people, there's writers, there's this, there's that,
like whatever it may be, and it's just like then
it kind of takes some of the fun out of
the vision and then I have like a tantrum lee
Now I don't want to do any more, or you just.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Have to try to do it yourself, which is so hard.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Money, so much money. Parts in La there are more.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
There are plenty of talented people, got infinite talent here.
There's just not access to money to have their projects made.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Do we have any closing any notes? Been here for
about an hour, which is great. Oh wow, time flies
when you're having fun.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
We still have time in the studio. If there's anything
else you want to promote, any tiktoks you've seen recently
that you're excited about.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
I could rant about hypernormalization. I'm going to kick go
for it recently, go for it right done. It's just
basically the idea that we're kind of on a highway
to hell, and our leaders and global thinkers and politicians
they know it, but they can't tell us that. We
can't like accept that because there will be rioting in
the streets. Instead, we pretend we're still on a path

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that could someday lead to utopia and not all of
us living in a silo underground with an authoritarian government's
probably what's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Do you follow AOC.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
I know of her.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
She's talking about it. She's the only politician talking okay everything.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
This is my news.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
I came up on her for a second, but now
I'm feeling okay. That makes me feel better.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
No, she literally talked about how even Democrats they're all
everyone's insider trading in the government, and it's like no
one's talking about that though.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
And she is Nancy Pelosi dumping stocks like two weeks
before it fucking crash, Like okay, queen, She's talking about
like realistic steps to take two to like help us
and to make us not freak out so much.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
It's great. You should follow her.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
I'm gonna watch with it.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, because she she's on not Twitter, right, not Dash,
Twitter Acts, just a.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Few other platforms.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
She's on TikTok, TikTok.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
She's not, of course, he's on TikTok.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Yeah, she's been going on podcasts like John Stewart on
our podcast.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Maybe.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Yeah, we'll just call and be like, hey, I know
you're in New York, Washington, d.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Record that's true.

Speaker 5 (57:10):
So we consume we have we have the technology.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
We have her download Audacity on her computer and record
it locally.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
She's not like giving us bullshit answers either, Like I feel,
it feels like she's being honest and hopefully.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
She seems like a real one.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Right, she seems like a real one, I gotta say.
And it's just so refreshing to not see a fucking
boomer talk about true.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
That it must make her feel like an outsider in
their little circle, and so in that way she would
be more connected to the people.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
She's not one of them.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Yeah, And even though I love Bernie Sanders, he's older
than everyone, very old.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
It's very ancient.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
I know. It's like the people I align with the
most politically that are actually elected people. It's like one
of the youngest and the oldest. Yeah, well everyone in
between sucks.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
I mean that might speak to something of like kind
of homogeneous culture amongst politicians.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
They're left or right. Yeah, they're still boomers.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
We have not gotten anyone that's not a boomer in office.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
As president, I.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Think I was.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
I don't remember all the details, but I remember someone
talking about this is like one of the first times
in history where the people that are leading us, like
all the politicians aren't aging in the same way like
the population is. Like usually it's like, you know, everyone's
roughly the same age, like you know, like forty five
year olds will always be the politicians. But it's like
then they were, they're aging appropriately, Like now they're just

(58:32):
staying in office forever and we're not letting the younger
people take over like we have in the past.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
I feel like that's boomers in general. They were supposed
to retire, they have retirement savings.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
They won't do it.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
But they won't do it. They're too stubborn and they
like refuse to let anybody else try anything. No, and
that's why none of us can afford houses correct, we're
all unhoused and homeless. Yes, just to tie it all
back together.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
And in real life people retire at sixty five, not
in politician land, No, that seems perfectly understandable, right, Like
you don't know anyone eighty who's still going to their
office job. That's insane.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
No, And there's I don't know how likely this is too,
but there was like a politic someone in Texas that
was like a local politician or something that went missing
for like a month and they found her like a
memory care center. Oh shit, just like straight up has dementia. No,
and was like still an active, like political leader and.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
Go back to office.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
That I didn't get the follow up, but someone else
was like the same thing. You can't vet the stuff
because it's on Reddit, but it was like, I'm a
pharmacist in the DC area. A lot of elected officials
are on like dementia medications.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
And it's like not trying to hate. I'm not, you know,
be an ageist, but like we all have to know
our limits.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
I don't need to be working at that point. I
need to be enjoying what I have played.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Yeah. The emotional regression of that generation too, it's like insane.
It's like I feel like I'm raising my parents now
and they're like pretty smart people, but they've like, I
don't know what they regress.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yes, my mom used to work at fucking NASA, and
the shit that comes out of her mouth sometimes I'm like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Mom, you're a smart lady.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
What's happening?

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
My mom was a special ad teacher and she says
some truly bad shit stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Or I'm just like, okay, they why don't we have
eggs anywhere?

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
What's up with that? Where are the eggs?

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
It's a question liberal scheme. They stole eggs to make
Donald Trump look bad.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
They actually use the eggs to control their weather machines. Yes,
that's the fuel, and.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
The birds that aren't real are laying the eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
They're actually not even from a you know, organic source either,
you know right, No, Apparently it's bird flu.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
I was listening to NPR.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Apparently waffle House is going to start charging an extra
fifty cents per egg. But they're citing that there's really
bad like bird flu concerns right now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
There is, and it's spreading to humans now. So I
love that for us.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
And I think California is one of the worst states
for it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Oh, we have a lot of farms, we do.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
This is the new normal. I mean it's only going
to get worse.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
But in COVID times people were like, so when after
Trump and all that, It's like, when does we get
back to like normal. Let's no, we went from one
pass to the other, and no one with any authority
is turning us back. And I'm in favor of riots
and revolution burning things down. We have some thoughts on
the ineffectiveness of boycott's against corporations because of how much

(01:01:22):
power they have in multiple holdings. So even if you
target one area, it's like, well, they still have all
of these other the like vonds and pavilions in safe way.
Like that's the first thing that comes to mind. Like
there's grocery stores that are just like you think they're independent,
they're not.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Yeah, it's like Nestle. You think it's just chocolate, and
it's like Baby, Formula, Water.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Procter and Gamble, Johnson and Johnson. There's like ten companies
in the entire world.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Yeah, at the end of the day, but if we
were to burn down some factories, I mean just hypothetically,
that could do something with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
No people in it were no fait, no no, no workers.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
I love violence if it is harm reduction.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Exactly when they toppled those towers in the movie version,
I don't think happened in the book exactly like that,
but in the movie there were no people in there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
That was the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Yeah, we're not going to kill the proletariat, like make
sure everyone's evacuated, and then we're gonna burn it down.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Yes, fuck yeah, free Luigi.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
That man, Okay, he's gonna get off. I think we
get off.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
He's get on every day in that jail.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
I know that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
Being serviced.

Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
Yeah, there's just like a line they're like, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Sir, okay, but no one's talking about how I think
he's got to be kind of batshit, Like he's been
very idealized, which I'm into, but like for him to
have the moxie to do that, and then didn't you
just like go to a McDonald's after. I don't know
if this is a person we would actually want to
be around.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
I like, I like him. I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
I just feel like no one is like I feel
like this person is not mentally well to affect.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
I think he's not physically well, and that's why I've
done it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
So he's oh, and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
It's like I think he thought. He was like, if
I'm gonna die, then I'm just gonna go out with
a bang.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
That y okay, that's very bad.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
And now he's gonna live for a very long time.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
I think McDonald's he loves me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
I think he did that a day or two later.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Yeah, you soon to go to a place like that.
I don't know. I'm in. I'm in.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
I'm into Luigi lore I'm into this idealization. I feel
like it's setting on fair beauty standards for men, because
you know, not everyone can kill a CEO, but just
because of how uncommon that is, I want to know more.
I want to know more about his story. Yeah, crazy bitches,
just curious, Louis you right in?

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah, I just I think that's where we're at. Unfortunately,
in the in the state of America is violence. Unfortunately
is the only answer I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Used to kill nazis what happened to that?

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Let's bring it back.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
I say we bring it back. I would beat the ship.
I'm I'm ready to beat the ship out of someone
for saying anything remotely fascist.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
I'm ready to like learn how to shoot a gun.
And like you know, we were talking about that. I've
never shot a gun.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
I want to know, maybe need to know how in
case we don't like guns, we don't want them around.
I don't I don't want in my house, but like
go to arrange.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Figure out how you're all going to arranges? Now. Someone said,
like people are going so far left that they hit
right because they're pro gun. Now everyone's pro gun now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Well, no, the left is like the super left, like
common left, They've always been pro gunned.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
There's like pictures of like the Black Panther Party and
they all have fucking guns because they're like, fuck you
you have guns?

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Yeah you have guns.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
Why don't I have gun?

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
I kind of want one. I can't. I can't because
I'm too mentally ill. But but I'm pro gun. I'm
just antae assault rifle. I don't think any must all and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
More regulated, Like why me getting a driver's license more
regulated than.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Getting a fucking gun.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Yeah, that's all I'm asking for, making like a dry
and driver's licenses aren't that hard to get?

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Like that, right, I shouldn't be allowed to ever get
a gun, right, but I can get one, and that's
a problem.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
You know, I trust you to have a gun. I'm
just gonna say that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
You know, there's anybody else, just myself, right, Okay, Yeah,
that's the difference. That's the difference though, between me and
other people. Right, I'm only only going after one person
unless it gets so bad that I pullwchi.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
Yes, oh yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
If I'm gonna go out, I'm taking someone else with me,
someone who really deserves it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
Yes, agree to hurt bad people.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
We don't say this enough, we don't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that's the only way we're gonna
make the world.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
A better place.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Take a look at France and you know the seventeen hundreds.
That's the only way they got out of that tyrannical rule.
You just gotta you know, do a little chop chop.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Oh, my neck hurts.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Just well, it's really just rich, powerful men that we
protect because women are much more likely to get to.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
The thrown under the bus.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Absolutely never have power in the first place. So it's
all very related to patriarch.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
It is, and all the men saying we need to
be nicer to them. It's such a joke. It's such
a fucking joke.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Even when we are nice to you still fuck us over.
Like you hear all those stories about like this girl
was like a virgin, she took care of her husband,
she did all the right things. He still fucking cheated
on or beat the shit out of her. We're not
doing that anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Every time I was sexually assaulted, I was so fucking
nice right before it happened. So fuck that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
No, we're fighting fucking back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Fuck y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
We tried, we tried being nice. We tried, and all
it did was you guys just walk the fuck all
over us.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
Yeah, not doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Might as well not be super nice unless they really
earn it, and then it's different. Yeah, you have to
start at the bottom, working up guilty until proven innocent.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Mmm.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
I only like Simps.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Yes, you should do an episode on the SIMPS.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
I don't know what else to say about it, but
it's it's fascinating.

Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
They're the best.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
It's a lot of the guys who follow me, they'll
post it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Be like I'm so grateful for you, God is and
like I just love all the ladies here, and like.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Well you're creepy, but but I'll keep you around. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Yeah, I'm not blocking down yours are maybe.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Yeah, we'll go fifty fifty on the intentions.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Yeah, I'm not sure about this, but better than the alternative.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Yeah yeah, Well is there any other causes, platforms, anything
else you want to plug, anything else that you think
people should know about, think about.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Honestly follow AOC. Okay, that's what I'm gonna because I'm
going to take from it. It's going to make you
feel better. I mean, it'll make you feel worse before
you feel better, but it is worth it because she's
actually giving us solid information.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
I'm glad to hear that because I had really high
hopes for her at the beginning, and then I felt
like she was kind of in with like the pelosis
and like the the dims that were like not super great.
But I'm feeling like, if she's getting back to her
roots that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
I support that one hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
She's just getting back to her roots.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Hell yeah, I support I support a queen. I am
missandrist memes on Instagram, and i am t.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
X scoth GF and I'm at bris rig with three
e's and two s's And then.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
If you want to say it with us and we
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You can email us. It's sad Gap dot podcast at
gmail dot com. Visit our website sad Gap dash podcast
dot com. Follow us on Patreon for ad free episodes
Patreon dot com. Slash sad Gap will also post the
full maybe even unedited, because I can't stand listening to
it because it makes me want to claw my ears out,
poke my ears out, claw them off, something like that,

(01:08:15):
something with the earl.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Very violent, and we recorded that episode. We'll release it
on Patreon.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
You can follow Patreon to hear it there. It will
be marvelous. The content was amazing, yeah, very content was
very good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
The recording quality not so much, so you got to
pay to hear the poor quality.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
I'm following be a samp.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
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give us a five star rating. Go on over to
Apple and rise review. We would love to hear what
you have to say. Rate, review, subscribe and share with a.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
Friend or to you. All right, thank you so much
for being here, Bree. We really appreciate you coming back
and your flexibility. It's been lovely to chat with you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Indeed, it has.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
Oh that's it, Okay, and you're gonna have a quippie thing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
No, that was it good.

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
No, that was good.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
And we're stronger together.

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
We'll see you next time. Bye. You gonna say bye
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