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Speaker 4 (00:00):
Welcome to this
week's Saddle Up Live.
I am excited to have you here.
This is a special episode.
It, I was going through like pastepisodes that I had done and I, I forgot
all about this one and sometimes ifI've done an episode in the past on
doing divorce different, that wouldreally align nicely with Settle Up Live.
(00:26):
I like to.
Pull it up and, and, uh.
Take it out of the archives and I'mputting it forward in Saddle Up Live
because it's so telling how it isreally all about what I talk about now.
I was so fortunate way back inthe beginning of doing divorce
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different, I was able to get thisyoung man, his name is Carrie Jack.
He's known as the Happy Hustler.
He was on Entrepreneurs On.
Fire podcast and just like a reallywell-known fella and he chose to come
on my podcast, which was so lovely.
Um, it touches a little biton some divorce issues, but
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it's so interesting to me.
To see where I've grown and whatI've learned, especially since going
through something else really hard,like a little diagnosis that I had.
So I think this information is reallysomething that's great for people
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going through any hard time divorce oranything, and just, he talks about living
a happy life and it was very eye-opening.
For me, and please excuse the audio.
Obviously I was not, um,at my top at that time.
His sounds great because he's a pro.
(01:50):
Um, but my voice could get a littleechoey and weird sometimes, but I
think the content is so good thatI'm gonna put it out there anyway,
and I hope you enjoy it as much asI enjoyed taping it and listening to
it again, take good care, listen up.
Speaker (02:09):
Welcome listeners.
I am so thankful for today's guest.
You know, I help people through divorceand I reached out to Carry Jack.
I always think of youas the happy hustler.
I heard this amazing young man onentrepreneurs on Fire, and Carrie
Jack, you were talking about.
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The 10 alignments and howto find blissful balance.
And I am always wanting to add value to myclients going through divorce and to help
them work together to help their kiddos.
Um, you know, and I know that's somethingthat was kind of a reason that you.
Decided to do this podcast becauseyou are kind of a big deal.
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And so I appreciate, I
Speaker 2 (02:56):
don't know about that,
Speaker (02:56):
you are, I appreciate that
you are willing to add value to my
listeners' lives by sharing, the 10alignments you have a book, you're
very successful Your podcast is.
Amazing.
we are just so thankful to have you heretoday if we can jump right in to some
of the 10 alignments to help us findbalance even when some of my clients
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aren't happy going through the divorce,maybe we can get them in a better
balanced area and the future of happiness.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah.
First off, thank you for having me, Lisa.
I appreciate you and the invite.
And you know, I felt called to do yourshow and I mentioned pre-chat just
because I did go through a gut wrenchingdivorce myself as a, you know, an
early, teen slash, you know, I think Iwas 10 actually, so probably pre-teen.
I just want to add value to thosegoing through something similar
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because it really is a tough time.
And so if, my message can resonateand even just help positively
impact just one listener, I wouldconsider it time well spent.
So yeah, the 10 alignments are basically,my framework for happy hustling, a
blissfully balanced life that you love.
And I was out of balanceas an entrepreneur.
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I was hustling but not happy.
I had a real burnout moment in New YorkCity when I was really grinding my face
off, working a hundred plus hour weeks,getting less than five hours of sleep.
I was, soliciting a seven figureVC funding deal for my tech
startup with my brother andbusiness partner and best friend.
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we ended up in partnerships withMicrosoft and IBM and had this really
great opportunity to scale our business.
And I just got to the, thetable when it came time to sign
in the deals and, you know.
I couldn't take the money.
we said no to the funding.
We folded the company.
I moved to Bangkok, Thailand tofigure out a better way to work
and live, you know, 'cause I wasjust so unfulfilled, so burned out.
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And that's where theHappy Hustle was born.
And that's where the 10 alignmentsstarted to take shape Really now it's
morphed into this framework that initiallyjust scratched my own itch, you know?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Just of being burnout myself.
And now the 10 alignments and, and thissoul mapping acronym has helped thousands
of other happy hustlers just createthat blissful balance in their life.
Speaker (05:20):
I love that, and
I am, I can't help it.
This is so important to me.
And I felt like before I heard you,I was balanced and I found myself
listening and taking notes and going,oh, I'm kind of missing it on this note.
So I love, I actuallyhave 'em written down.
I love the soul map.
Oh, awesome.
Yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
That's amazing.
Speaker (05:44):
And I think the first one is
the S, which is the selfless service.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah.
What I would urge all of yourlisteners, and you know, I think.
Podcasts are great, but when you arean active participant is when you
really get the most out of podcasts.
And I would urge all your listenersto go through and quantify where you
rank in each of these 10 alignments.
five would be your crushing it.
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it's an A in terms of the grading scale,you know, and then one would be an f.
Meaning you're failing.
you need to prioritize change accordingly.
So rank yourself, you know, onethrough five in each of these
10 areas as we go through.
And the S stands for selflessservice, as Lisa mentioned.
the secret to living is giving.
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So, identify right now whereyou rank in this alignment.
Are you living for yourself andjust caught up in your own divorce
and, and caught up in your own?
Despair or are you starting to giveback to others and, and, you know,
thinking outside of yourself, you know,rank yourself one to five in that area.
The O stands for Optimized Health.
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You know, you have to have yourhealth both physically and mentally
and emotionally optimized in order tohappy hustle in any area and to get
through these tough times in your life.
You know, this is one of those thingswhere if you don't have your health dialed
in, everything else takes a back seat.
Especially now with Covid if you'vegotten sick from Covid, you know
how it just completely wrecksyour life and you're just, nothing
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else matters, but getting healthy.
So.
Play good offense and start totake care of yourself and rank
yourself right now, one to fivein this alignment, optimize help.
The U stands for unplugged digitally.
this is one of those, difficult,alignments to really score
high end oftentimes becausewe are so hyperconnected.
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We are, watching movies and streamingshows and on YouTube and then on social
media, and we're constantly connected.
But I really, truly believebeing disconnected is how you
can actually reconnect to yourtrue self and your true soul.
And, I'll just share something personal.
Right now I'm in a dopamine detoxwhere I'm doing no social media, no
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movies, no YouTube, No streaming showsor any of that for the whole week.
And I have had some of my most productivedays without those distractions.
So rank yourself in thatalignment unplugged digitally.
And then you have theL loving relationships.
You know, we're talking about divorceand we're talking about, you know,
getting back to loving relationships,and this is an important one, obviously.
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Depending on where you're at rightnow, it might be a lower score.
But getting back to that fivein loving relationships is
really what life's all about.
Having that love, you know?
So that's the first, that'sthe soul part at Lisa.
I'm curious if you're feelingbrave, you wanna share your,
your rankings and, and score?
Speaker (08:40):
you know, and it's
interesting because when you
brought up selfless service.
What kind of hit me isI'm a real good mama bear.
I take care of my family, I takecare of the things they're involved
in, but I don't think I look at thebigger picture, and that's what I
noticed that's missing from my life.
So that is one thing I'm searching for,starting to find a few of those things
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because it's kind of selfish when I just.
You know, help those in my own littlehut and I wanna start reaching out.
So that was only a two on my score.
Mm.
Okay.
it was funny, optimizing health,I thought, oh, I'm a four.
I'm pretty much a four.
I work pretty hard on that.
But then when you saidphysical and emotional.
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I went, oh, okay.
Maybe for physical, butmaybe not emotional.
So that's something I need to think of.
Mm-hmm.
I loved what you said about unpluggingdigitally, because I do fasting,
like alternative day fasting, butI'm pretty good about setting it
aside and being with my hubby mm-hmm.
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Or my kids, or my grandson.
But I haven't done it forthat long of a period.
I haven't done it for a day.
'cause it's just such a partof my work and my life, so.
Love that idea and would love toexperience what that feels like.
And then Carrie, Jack, this is what'sso different about me, is I have
been married for almost 30 years.
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Wow.
So, yeah, and it's not all great.
It's impressive.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I, none of them are, I mean,
every relationship has its adversity.
My fiance and I have our adversitythat we're working through
Speaker (10:19):
but I'm gonna give myself
a five on that because, we really do
work together and it is hard work.
It's not easy, you know,anything that's like this.
This is hard work to get yourself in abetter position, especially when you're
going through difficult times, so,
Speaker 3 (10:37):
mm-hmm.
Speaker (10:37):
It was a little eye-opening to do
it again with you right here on the air.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah.
Well, and that's the thing guys, everyonelistening, just give yourself some grace.
You know, it's okay.
This is a baseline.
This is where you're at currently,and I rank myself in these
10 alignments every Sunday.
So it's not a one and done type thing.
It's every single week.
I look at the week prior and Ilook at, okay, where do I need to
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prioritize change in the future?
This upcoming week.
Right, right.
And that's the, the difference, likepeople talk about work-life balance as
this finite destination, and I trulybelieve it's a never ending journey.
You know, it requires constant evaluation,adjustments, tweaks, pivots, That's
why this framework, I think, has takenoff and people are really attaching
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to it because it's a different way toactually manifest this balance, but
not as this finite destination, butas this constant work in progress.
Yeah.
So that's the sole part.
Now we're gonna dive into the mappingpart and again, you know, rank where
you're at in these, different alignments.
The M stands for mindful spirituality.
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So this is, really important that you'reconnecting to a higher power, that
you believe in something bigger thanyourself, that you're practicing, breath
work and meditation and gratitude daily.
I don't necessarily, you know, carewhat God you believe in, but I just
care that you believe in something,you know, and I just think it's
really important to have faith.
So that is a, a big, you know.
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Alignment that I, I see a lot ofpeople, lacking in o oftentimes,
you know, some people are either allin and, or some people are all out.
There's like, sometimesthere's very little in between.
So rank where you're atone to five in that one.
the A stands for abundance financially.
Right.
It's gonna be difficult to happy hustle.
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Your dream reality if you'reliving paycheck to paycheck.
but we do need to focus on how you cancreate a system that works for you,
that you can save, invest, and spendwisely that is automated And you know,
this is one of those alignments that.
It seems like it's more important thanthe others, but it's really, truly not.
It's just another piece to your puzzle,but it is an important piece nonetheless.
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So rank where you're at interms of abundance financially.
The first P is.
personal development.
I noticed that in the book.
Personal development isthe first p in the book.
I'll stick with the book, chapterorder, but personal development is,
you know, how often are you actuallyreading and listening and, you
know, watching visually stimulatingand auditorily stimulating, like
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educational and inspirational content.
You know, because you'reeither growing and evolving.
Or you're shrinking and dissolving.
And those are literally the two optionswhen it comes to personal development.
So rank where you're at in that one.
The second P is passionate hobbies.
So this is, you know, are you actuallydoing fun things for yourself and
getting out and filling your own cup.
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And especially in tough times,this is a very imperative alignment
that, again, I see most highperformers lacking in because they.
take care of other people and they'reworried about their business and
they're worried about, their kids.
And this is one of those whereyou have to fill your own cup.
You have to, you know, godo things that you enjoy.
I love snowboarding in the wintertimeout here and horseback riding in Montana
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and fly fishing, and I practicing mymartial arts and playing soccer and, you
know, so I do these things regularly.
Okay.
And it's important that you do somethingthat you enjoy regularly as well.
So rank where you're at in that oneimpactful work is okay, are you actually
getting up every day doing somethingthat you enjoy, that you feel fulfilled
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doing, that you are infusing yourpassion, you know, which is that I.
Inward facing calling with your purpose,which is that outward serving mission.
Right?
And then ultimately, are you makinga positive impact in the process?
Right.
And I find a lot of people aresacrificing their soul for their, for
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their career, for their paycheck, Inorder to truly happy hustle, this is one
of those alignments where you have toreally kind of rethink is what you're
doing for work right now, actually,filling the void and creating impact
and infusing your passion and purpose.
So, rank where you're at in this one.
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And that nature connection is, areyou getting outside and, tapping into
this beautiful planet and gettingaway from the, toxic blue light
in our recycled air in our homes.
And, 96% of time is spent indoorsfor the majority of individuals.
And so.
It's one of those things whereyou have to just get outside
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and enjoy our beautiful planet.
We're we're primal being, and oh, bythe way, you gotta protect it in the
process, you know, because a lot of usare decimating our natural resources
with our choices that we're makingby voting with our dollar every day.
So become a conscious consumer.
This falls into this alignment, you know?
And I have actually another.
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Eco company called Eco Breakthroughs,that's fighting the plastic
pollution epidemic with my brotherand business partner again.
And you know, I'm very passionateabout being an eco warrior and, and
the simple change that you can makejust listening right now is support
more B corporations, you know, benefitcorporations that are very transparent.
You can look online.
At the list of B corporations suchas Patagonia, Ben and Jerry's, right?
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The north face, you know, like there'scompanies out there that are doing
the right thing and they know wheretheir supply chains are, you know,
like going awry and, and where theyactually fix 'em to create regenerative
practices and, and have sustainabilitywithin their business model.
And so it's one of those, you know.
Alignments that is bigger thanjust you getting outside, but it's
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actually thinking with an eco mindset.
So that's nature connection.
You should have 10 scores right now, Lisa.
Let's hear it.
Speaker (16:46):
mindful spirituality.
gratitude.
I'm gonna give myself like afour, even a four and a half.
that's big to me.
And then abundance financially.
I do think, for a lot of my clients andlisteners, you're never really better
off after a divorce than you were before.
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And so sadly, some of the hard workthat we do is getting that all straight.
if you're thinking about going throughthis or going through a divorce,
you will get some peace if you can.
Get your budget down.
that isn't another worry that you have,gives you a little freedom to live your
life when you have things in place.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker (17:28):
I love that
one for our listeners.
And it's a hard one.
personal development, oh my gosh.
I love everything.
And my drive, my husband crazy.
When are you gonna stop growing?
Because I just always have a newidea, and that's why I love having
you on and sharing this with my peoplebecause it's so important to me to keep
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growing and learning, I'm gonna givemyself a pretty high score on that.
I don't think I actuallyput a score on that one.
it would be a three.
But this is interesting and I've forgotto tell you, Carrie, Jack, another reason
that I love you is I'm a horse girl.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Oh, awesome.
Speaker (18:07):
I got one back here
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Amazing.
There you go.
Speaker (18:09):
barn, because
I do this from my barn.
Oh, awesome.
And then I have a couple otherhorses, but do you wanna know
what I knew I was really bad at?
At the hobby thing and like Icall going on to run a hobby.
'cause I think it kind of is.
Or like self-help stuff.
Hobbies.
But do you know that since.
Covid hit.
I have not ridden a horse, and Iam like, I can't even believe it.
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And it just, that just hit me today.
And so that's something I reallyneed to work on and I've missed that.
I call all my self growth things,my hobbies, but in reality, where's
the, the golf with my husband?
I hadn't done that either.
He's been going, but I haven't.
So, It's just good for me to learn that.
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And then that nature connection,
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker (18:56):
of course you're gonna
wanna be good to the planet
when you're out in nature.
And Carrie, Jack, that is noteasy to do living where we live.
'cause we're going belowzero here this week.
but you just load on all your gear.
And you look like a mummy andyou walk out and you at least
get out there a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yep.
Speaker (19:14):
it's so
different in this climate.
I am such a summertime girl.
Outside every second.
The sun is shining.
I just wanna be out there.
And then it totally reverses.
And I don't know, Montana'sprobably a little different.
a little sunnier, I think.
A little warmer.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
it's pretty
chilly here too sometimes.
But yeah, right now we're about30, you know, so it's not too bad.
Speaker (19:37):
No, that sounds good to me.
And I think we're about that here nowtoo, but I just, I love all of this If
people who are going through divorce canstart looking at this and growing, I want
them to be better after this experience.
I don't want 'em to go through this again.
Mm-hmm.
And I don't want their kids to go throughsomething bad By taking care of yourself.
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You're taking care of your kids.
You're teaching them howto care for themselves.
You're being a better parent.
And Carrie Jack, this is a reallyawesome thing, is that you can mitigate
the issues that a child has witha divorce when you work together.
Both parents work together.
Yeah.
So that is always my, I havea parenting plan course.
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that is my dream thatpeople can do it together.
And there are people doingthis a different way.
It doesn't have to becutthroat and fighting.
It can be, an amazing growth experience.
And so having you here today.
Is helping me spread that to my listenersand my clients, so I so appreciate it.
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Yeah.
And we're gonna have all your goodinformation in the show notes,
but tell us how can, what's thebest way to connect with you?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, well, I just want
to echo, you know, taking ego out of
it and working together as parents.
I think that's the catalyst tohaving a healthy separation.
And, yeah, if you can.
Start to look at your life withthis holistic approach to balance
and these 10 alignments hopefullycan help serve in some capacity.
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I do wanna mention one thingwhen it comes to happy hustling.
And the biggest key principle is you mustfocus on each of these 10 alignments.
One at a time.
Okay.
So a lot of people, you know, whenthey're at work, they're thinking
about their family or their divorce,you know, and when they're with their
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family, they're thinking about work.
This principle of happyhustling is really focusing on.
Each of these differentalignments and being all in.
When I'm talking to Lisa, I'm all here.
when I'm going to workout, I'm getting after it.
when I'm fly fishing, I'mnot checking emails, right.
Each thing on your calendar needsto have equal importance, and you
need to focus on it one at a time.
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So that's just a important pieceto this happy hustle and puzzle.
in terms of connecting with me, the bestpossible thing for your listeners would
probably be, to just either listen tothe podcast, the Happy Hustle Podcast.
And, pick up a copy of the book if youwant to go deeper in these 10 alignments.
The Happy Hustle book.com.
We're actually doing a promo.
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I really want this content outthere and to spread the message.
So we're doing, basically thefirst thousand copies for free.
If you just go to theHappy Hustle book.com.
I'll just help out withshipping and handling.
It'll go right to your doorstep.
And then there's an option ifyou want to get the audio book
and you wanna get an extra copy.
And there's some options.
There's, for my course, if youwanted to go deeper, even still.
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But that's probably the bestplace, the happiest of book.com.
thank you again, Lisa.
I really appreciateyou and your listeners.
divorce is a son of a gun, but
You'll get through it.
whatever adversity arises in yourlife ultimately makes you stronger.
It has made me stronger as a kidgoing through divorce and I vowed
to never get divorced myself.
I've been very diligent withmy partner choice I'm praying
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that I don't ever get divorced.
I know people change and lifehappens, but ultimately just keep
your head up, keep going, and, it'llmake you stronger in the long run.
Speaker (23:16):
Yep.
And I think you've gotthe mindset for it, sir.
I think you are gonna have a lot ofhappiness in that future relationship.
I really can feel it.
You know the work andyou're helping other people.
So thank you Care Jack, honestly, so much.
Thank you.
I so appreciate you being hereand taking the time for me and my
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listeners, and adding value andchanging my life a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I received that, Lisa.
Speaker (23:43):
Peace and love,
Speaker 2 (23:44):
everyone.
Speaker (23:45):
Take care.