Safety Wars Live 2-28-2025 Backup Alarms, Trump, Zelensky, Current Events

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And from the border of Liberty and Prosperity in the Highway to North, this is Safety Wars.
This is the final episode of Season 4.
I was gonna get you going there.
Yes, we are starting Season 5 this weekend.
Possibly, you know, we'll see how it works out.

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We got a lot going on.
Here, let me get the video up and running here.
Enjoy some intro music, I guess.
And me babbling on and on and on.
A lot of hat, I mean today.
If you're a political dude, or do that, I mean, this was like Christmas, New Year's,

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Super Bowl all wrapped up into one.
I mean, you'd see there, you're very happy today or you're very angry today.
You know, there's no in-between here.
I'm gonna say this much.
You need to have, let's look at this, I got a little bit late today.

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I mean, where have I been?
Well, first of all, let's talk about where I've been.
Here.
And go live.
We'll see.
Alright, go live.
Alright, so where have I been?
I have actually been doing every night, let's do maritime training, specifically from marine

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terminals.
Now don't believe what the news tells you.
There are still windmills going in offshore of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut.
Alright, so this morning, I was listening to Jersey Joe Piscobo.
I don't know, he's like entertainment polymath, right?

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I'm a safety polymath, I call him.
He's an entertainment polymath.
He does it all.
He sings, he dances.
He's a comedian.
He's a political animal.
He does so many different things.
And there was like, they had Lee Zeldin, the head of the EPA.
Yeah, you know, there's that offshore.
Well, there's still projects going on that are in process.

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The one that I am working on, giving the safety training for is as soon as I get the cards,
like everyone will be certified, I have to send out cards this weekend and everything.
But as soon as I get the cards, you know, temporary cards and everything, there's starting

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to work.
But if you need, again, OSHA outreach training, any construction you need, general industry
you need, maritime, whether that's either shipyards, marine terminals or long-shoring,
or if you need a disaster response, I got a question today from one of the people out

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there on cyberspace on disaster response.
Yeah, we do all of it.
We do all of the outreach training.
I don't know how else.
I'm getting re-certified in the next couple of weeks here.
Sorry, I didn't say that.
Reauthorized.
Reauthorized.
OSHA doesn't certify anybody.

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And no, it's like this.
I'm authorized.
I work with Rutgers.
I work with Texas A&M.
I work with University of California, San Diego.
Every outreach training center has a little bit of a different take on what they're doing.
No one's doing anything wrong or illegal or immoral or anything like that.

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Just a little bit of a different take.
And up until two years ago, I was doing everything out of Rutgers.
And then once I moved over here, I said, man, they have a different way of doing things
a little bit.
No, they meet the requirements, but the training classes are totally different.
They reauthorization classes.

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So if you ever have the opportunity, those are three great institutions.
I don't know where there are others.
I think there's like 12 or 13 different ones.
Those are pretty top notch things.
You're going to get a lot of information.
You're going to have a lot of interaction.
But so for example, when you go to University of California, San Diego, I found out that

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there were a whole bunch of different government websites out there dedicated to maritime safety,
offshore safety and everything else from agencies.
I've never heard of quite frankly.
You think OSHA is like the only safety organization out there or MSHA or something like that.
Because they're no obscure ones out there that you can go on and know whenever there's

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a disaster, they end up, they can publicize and everything else.
Really, really good things.
You're like, oh shit, I had everything all organized.
Now I have to incorporate all this new information.
And it's a good thing.
So no, I've been given classes.
If you're interested in having a class at your facility, let us know because now according

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to the new guidelines starting October 1st of last year, you're able to do that online
through an online platform like Zoom or Teams.

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And you're able, which we do, we're able to give the classes on that if we meet certain
requirements.
And then we need to give them at least one week's notice.
So again, give us, plan things out.
We're doing that.
Now, we have here a listener mail.

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And the mail that we have tonight is from Susan from my hometown of Woodridge, New Jersey.
Complete disclosure here, I went to kindergarten with her and elementary school at school number
11 in Woodbridge.
So any of the other people from Woodridge who know the Susan I'm talking about, but she

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is a regular listener to the program.
And she, now whenever there's a safety question she has, she's one of those listeners that
always contacts me with safety questions, which I love.
And if I can help you out, I'm going to do it, you know?
So her question here has to do with backup alarms.

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You're going to say backup alarms.
Really backup alarms?
Yes, backup alarms.
And what the OSHA requirements are for backup alarms.
And you're going to say, well, that's crazy.
So hold on.
I had this up and running OSHA policy on backup alarms.

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And in construction.
So one of the things that we have out there is this.

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Safety, what's safety?
Safety is VAC controls.
It's about putting levels in control.
So if there's a failure of one, now you have a backup, then you can fail without a problem
or a minor problem, if anything at all.

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The hopefully no problem.
So you have multiple layers, right?
Multiple layers of safety.
Multiple layers of controls.
Multiple layers of safeguards.
And it's also about your ability to adapt because you all know the workers adapt to
things, right?

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So and apparently, we've had a lot of small snowstorms up here in the Northeast this year.
And here and now we'll set up.

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So you've had a lot of stuff going on here.
So what happens is you have snow plows and salters and everything else going in there.
And usually, I mean, I remember way back in the day, the way back in the day, we used

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to shovel snow.
The great Stanley Gureki out of Woodbridge had a company and we used to go and he would
hire us to shovel snow.
And this is what, like my first exposure, right?
Not intended in the chemical and oil industry.

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So we were 16, right?
Just old enough to start working.
And he took us to the old Exxon chemical plant in Linden, New Jersey, which I don't believe
is there anymore.
And we used to have to clear all of the snow around the entire plant.
And it was a good gig.
And I got paid pretty well for a 16-year-old in 1987.

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I believe it was like $10 an hour for shoveling snow.
And it was like, you'd work.
Okay, he wasn't exactly following the labor regulations.
We'll leave it at that.
But then when I was 18, it didn't matter anymore.
And it was in there.
My brother John was one of the snow plow drivers.

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And my father got in on the action there directing some of the work.
And then my other brother, Eric, would get involved.
And it was good.
You'd go there, you'd pick up, I mean, you'd pick up $200, $300 because you're shoveling
snow for three days with some of those storms.
And got to learn a little bit how to use the equipment.

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But the best thing of all at that plant, at that facility, I had to tell you was the cafeteria.
We used, hell, my father didn't need to shovel snow.
My father had money, he didn't need it.
But he used to like to go there because he had a free lunch.
And the lunch was like five star lunch.

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Sort of like at the Bayway Refinery.
If you've ever seen the show Diners, Drivers and Dives with Guy Fieri, the Bayway Diner
used to be what was in the first episode, Diners, Drivers and Dives right there.
And then with the Twic cards coming in, being mandatory, and some of the other things going
on at the plant, nobody could go to the Bayway Diner anymore because they couldn't leave

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for lunch.
So what they did was they threw out a, one of the nationally known cafeteria places and
they put him in there, or the Bayway Diner in there.
So we got to eat all the stuff.
That was like, I mean, really good, you know, that's why I found my love for chorizo because

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they had no homemade chorizo and it was delicious.
But anyway, I digress.
So you know, I know what it is to be in the context of your shoveling snow.
Most of these were clearing snow.
You're alone, you're tired, you have, you know, you have a thermos of coffee because

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you have to have a thermos coffee because everything is closed over here.
You can't get coffee.
And you know, it ain't fun.
But what happens is the, you're working alone, you have to have some type of way to alert
people that you're backing up.

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So typically a backup alarm, you know, so what does it come down to here?
All right.
OSHA does not have a specific regulation on backup alarms on all construction vehicles
where requirements are outlined in 29th st.
For 1926.6.1 and 1926.6.2 for motor vehicles and material handling equipment needs and

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construction.
I don't believe that there is one in general industry.
Let me check this out real quick here.
Right.
In general industry, it is on powered industrial trucks, right?

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With that specifically, because, right, while OSHA does not mandate backup alarms, many
workplaces require them as far as internal safety policies or risk assessments are reduced
struck by hazards.
So let's remember these regulations were written in 1973, right?
Is what they reference here.
And it's no more or less a best practice.

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So not only are you supposed to have people spotting you, but you have a backup alarm.
And if you're on snow removal, I mean, you know, it's, you're not going to have someone
directing you back all the time.
You're not going to have a rider with you in the truck.
That normally doesn't happen.
So you're alone.
What do you do?

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You have now you have backup cameras, but you now you also have backup alarms.
It's sort of like when you're starting a manufacturing process, what do they have?
They have the little amber lights, maybe they have an alarm, right?
And everything else that you're out there with, I like the sound effects there.

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I should have had a siren on here.
So do we have a siren?
Yeah, hold on.
Not like that.
But you have something like that on there.
So you're back up and it's got to be 90 decibels there.
Now what happens is some people are very savvy and they're like, well, there's no requirement

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to have it.
So don't have it.
I'm going to tell you this.
If you are, if you hit someone with a vehicle, I am almost sure certain, sure that the first
question is going to be, do you have a backup alarm?
Right?
I can almost guarantee it.

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And if the answer is no, where it's not working, it's going to go downhill.
And being that it's not every day, I mean, you know, you have to be reasonable with the
way things are with safety, with, with things.
Hey, it's only going to be temporary.
It's only going to be there.
It's only going to be at night.
I understand it might keep the neighbors up, but it is what it is.

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I mean, if I would hate to have it because it's me, I complain and make a noise complaint
over something like that.
And then someone ends up getting killed or hurt.
Just my own thing.
Oh, I needed my beauty sleep, but, you know, so a guy died, but at least I got my beauty
sleep.

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Really?
Uh, with that.
So the bottom line is, is that there is no, uh, there are no, uh, uh, requirements for
backup alarms in OSHA.
Is it recommended?
Is it a best practice?
The answer is yes.
And I tell you what, if you don't have one, you're going to have a problem.

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The other, other, another thing is hearing protection.
That was some other, uh, that was general site work that somebody asked me about hearing
protection.
So hearing protection for, and there's a big difference between, uh, the requirements

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for general industry, which is 29 CFR 19, 10.95.
And the other one is 29 CFR 19, 26.52.
And the other one was 19, 26.101, uh, those, right?
With that, now once the PPE, one is, uh, hearing conservation, uh, thing.

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So you know, 1910 is general industry.
And we know what the key hazards of noise exposure are.
There are many.
One of them is hearing loss.
Uh, one of them is tinnitus, which is concentrating in the years, a common symptom of hearing
damage.
Uh, but basically tinnitus is a neurological situation.

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As I understand it, by the way, I, uh, have tinnitus.
Uh, basically if I'm on the air and I have headphones on and I have them turned all the
way down.
So sometimes I haven't turned down so low that I don't realize that I don't have my
microphone on.
And that's when you hear me, you know, it's like a, a Japanese movie here.

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Right.
My lips are moving.
There's no sound coming out.
Then I got to redo it.
But, uh, so, uh, that's again, it's a common symptom of hearing damage.
You're at higher risk for tinnitus ringing in the years.
Uh, with that, uh, I don't know.
I never got a good, uh, explanation why, uh, but I tell you what, it's a hellish thing

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to deal with.
My father, uh, he worked at Western Electric and Carney.
Uh, they, uh, they were refused, even after OSHA, they refused, uh, to give anybody hearing
protection.
And I said, dad, they do go after like a noise monitor and everything.
He said, no, what they had was like guides that you would have and his, uh, supervisor

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BS them.
Uh, and so you didn't need hearing protection.
And, uh, he had a real bad tinnitus.
So, uh, in general industry, they require audiograms and everything else that are in
there, right?
So you have communication issues, also increased stress and fatigue and everything else that
goes on with deafness.

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Now we have, uh, exposure limits and they're the same for general industry and they are
the same for, uh, uh, construction.
All right.
So, at, uh, in general industry at 85 decibels for an eight hour shift, you're required to
have an hearing conservation program.

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And at 90 decibels for an eight hour shift, again, you, as a time weighted average, measured
with a dosimeter, you have a permissible exposure limit of 90 at each five DBA increase
cause the safe exposure time in half.
So at, uh, eight hours is 90 decibels at six hours, 92, four hours, 95 decibels, two

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hours for a hundred decibels, one hour for 105, 30 minutes for 110, 15 minutes or less.
And I've become, uh, I can incorporate it into the training a little bit better.
Uh, but I used to, when they came out with the apps on the smartphone here, uh, we, they
used to, uh, go out and I used to sample things.

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So for example, the bell ringers around the holiday times, uh, they have, uh, no, it used
to be that we would have the bells up here.
I was taking measures and said, dude, you can eat a hearing box or you got to figure
it out.
So then we have the big bells up over here ringing.
They got to ring them down here.
And that is all part of their hearing conservation program for the, for that main charity that

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does that.
And I used to say, Jimmy, how do you know that?
Well, uh, the, one of my neighbors here, she is, uh, uh, I joke around with her.
Uh, I say, you know, she's from the militant wing of the Salvation Army, right?
Uh, but she is, uh, works for the Salvation Army, uh, which is, uh, one of their main

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offices in the Northeast and not the country is right here in town.
And I mean, huge complex here, uh, and she says, no, they have a hearing conservation
program.
They're not allowed to do the bells here.
They got to do them down here now.
They, they have a certain size and everything, all part of that because of the noise thing.
I said, Oh, wow, that's pretty cool.

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So in case, militant wing of Salvation Army, that's from Austin powers, right?
Uh, then they have methods of hearing protection that they outline and your plugs and your
muffs and this is a rather lengthy discussion, I don't want to burn the hell out of anybody
here, uh, with this.
And, uh, no, and, but they require under general industry, uh, to be in a conservation program

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with pre, uh, no, with a pre, uh, uh, uh, no employment testing, audiometric testing
and everything else.
Uh, now in the construction industry, right, they have a different situation.
So, uh, there's no, no, it's recommended that you have a hearing conservation program.

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And I'm going to tell you, if you're in a third party monitoring service and there are
three of them, I'm not going to mention them here, uh, out there that evaluate where you
have to sign up for it.
If you're working on a certain contract and they tell you what you need in your safety,
uh, plans, what safety training you need, number one and number two is that they track

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like ultra recordables and things of that nature.
All goes into a database and you get a grade and that all get, you get compared with everybody
else.
If you're involved in that sort of program, normally they're going to require a hearing
conservation program, even in construction with that.
Uh, but you have to check because the requirements are significantly different sometimes.

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Now with that and where they sit you down in a nice quiet room and they give you a hearing
test.
Now with me, since I have tinnitus and it's congenital, not from, uh, anything, uh, not
from any, you know, just the way my body is, they, uh, uh, no, uh, my regular insurance

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policy pays for an audiometric testing for me with that.
And I just keep, uh, there's nothing that much they could do and you know, and everything
else with that.
So there's certain strategies.
One of them is not to be in your, not to be in headphones all day.
That's number one.
Uh, sometimes I have to be, uh, with that, with that.

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And the other one is like, uh, I have to sleep on the couch and my mother-in-law, you know,
when you were first married, you say, well, no, my wife would say, yeah, yeah, Jimmy's,
uh, sleeping on the couch and my mother-in-law was like, are you having marital issues?
No, he has tinnitus and he has to sleep on the couch.

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Right.
Because, you know, what am I going to do?
Put in headphones and make it worse?
Uh, sort of thing.
That's why I'm never wearing, except for here.
I don't, I don't wear them.
Uh, so, uh, you know, with my wife, she, uh, the closed captioning wakes her up.
It's too loud.
The closed captioning on the TV.
So, right.

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That's how light she sleeps.
And I'm not joking on that one.
So, and so construction, no hearing conservation, no audio metric testing.
Other one is, uh, that now they, the best practices are to conduct noise assessments
by qualified industrial hygienists, uh, provide hearing protection and train workers, go and

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you know, use, go through the hierarchy of controls and go on your smartphone and there
are a couple of different apps and get a decibel reader on there.
It's not NIST, N-I-S-T compliant.
However, uh, it gives you a good idea, a screening idea, uh, the screen, uh, no, uh, things.

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And it avert a lot of arguments, believe it or not.
What do you mean, Jim?
Arguments.
Well, it avert a lot of arguments to have that.
Uh, what, to have that, uh, thing.
Now, uh, one more thing.
New Jersey state troopers often carry those.
I don't know about the local police, but New Jersey state troopers do.

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We had a neighbor one time, uh, at, uh, my father's house, the log cabin.
And he, uh, and, uh, he was a state trooper, but, uh, and he eventually retired, but his
wife used to scream and yell at everybody for noise complaints.
That was one of her things.

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The kids next door, noise, noise.
I can't handle it.
So what ended up happening was she kept on calling the police and in that area of New
Jersey, there is no local police force and them days.
So the state police would come and respond act as a local police, which means you didn't

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get a break on anything, zero.
All right.
Well, this is New Jersey state troopers.
They're not there.
No, but once that don't give you no break are the fire marshals, right?
They've been going around town writing tickets out for people in fire lanes.
Uh, you're not getting out of that ticket.
Second one are the sheriffs up here in New York, the sheriffs.

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The third thing is, uh, the sheriffs, you have, you're not getting out of it.
You have a problem in New Jersey.
The sheriffs normally don't do traffic stops even though they can.
Uh, but no, the state trooper comes and they kept on coming again and again and again and
again and again.
What do you think?
What do you think happened one day they show up with a sound level meter?

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And the law was you have to have a certain number of decibels inside your house for it
to be a legitimate law, noise complaint, right?
I had a certain time.
So, you know, obviously after like a sundown, you know, then the things change a little bit.
So he said, you know what we're going to do on this one, I like scores of time times

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and they got tired of coming out there.
So they went to the family next door that had the kids and so what, why are she complaining
about noise?
He said, well, we got a, we got a little, my, my sons are percussionist, uh, not, you
know, a legitimate percussionist.
He studies it at school.
We pay for lessons for him and that's what he does.

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You know, that's the thing is in the high school marching band.
He has his own little rock group set up.
The kids are around the town, come over and they jam in our house or in our garage or
sometimes outside and they have a grand old time and everything else.
And the mother's like, look, I'd rather have them do this than do drugs and drink.

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Police officers, the security says, ma'am, I get it 100%.
So I talked to your son and his friends.
They come over and they're like shaking likely.
So look guys, you're not in trouble.
This is what I want you to do.
I want you to hook up all your stuff.
I want you to put it up to the highest level that you, that you would normally play.

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He's like, you don't turn it all the way up to using.
No, we know we got noise.
We want to play the instruments.
We don't want to, you know, so it's okay.
Well, turn it up to like more than what you normally do and I'm going to go next door
with a sound level meter right here.
And we're going to go and figure out what the levels are and then we're going to come

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to like a commune on agreement here.
Know what you're going to do, blah, blah, blah.
And we want your windows open and everything else.
So he goes next door and he says to the lady, open up the windows and blah, blah, blah.
And she's like, oh, we're going to get those kids.
We're going to get those kids.
Yes.
We're going to get those kids.

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Right.
And they track that thing all the way up and he said they're playing and they got the drums
go, they got the bass guitar and they got the speakers going over to her.
These are huge lots.
Right.
And he's there.
Goes in, goes in the house all around.
Whoa.
Oh, isn't that it goes outside?

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Goes on the far, far, far, and he says, okay, fellas, great.
No problem.
Keep playing, keep playing, but I'm done with you.
Goes over to her and says, I tell you what, next time we get a noise complaint from you
with this, you're under arrest.
Have a nice day.
And you walked out, got in this car, drove away.

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So, uh, no, that all woman was also kept on calling up, uh, CPS on the neighbors also
on her other neighbors on the other side.
It was just a complete nightmarish woman had apparently some Steve seated psychological
issues that, uh, no, I hope she was resolved here because she had like all different, uh,

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delusions and stuff.
Uh, you don't know what people are struggling with.
So I don't like to pick on them, but, uh, it's wrong to pick on them.
But anyway, that was my story with that.
Now, uh, let's go to commercial break.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And we'll pick it up in a minute here.

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When you ride the wild wind with.
Oh, darn it.

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Hold on.
I hate it when it does stuff like this.
When you ride the wild wind with no map in your hand, you better be ready to crash land.

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Stumbling through life like a blindfolded clown.
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Struggling boldens those heavy sides.
Jump off the cliffs and brace the fall.
Only the bold survive it all.
Grin through the pain and wear it proud.

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Sing your regrets clear and loud.
Mistakes teach more than safety nets.
It's the heat that forges the best.
If you're gonna be stupid, you better be strong.

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Learn to dance when things go wrong.
Every wrong step is a left hook deal.
If you're gonna be stupid, you better be made of steel.
And that is Safety Warrior with, if you're gonna be stupid, you better be made of steel.

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Now Jim, this is politics, politics, politics.
Okay, so back in the day when this first started, the whole war, we had a warning that we used
to put out.
Well let's see if I can fire it up here.
Is it still here?
Is it still here?
Yes!
Yes, it's the Ukrainian War Update.

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I'm driving home from a safety audit.
And I tell you what, I'm listening to...
I hear something about it on satellite radio.
And this is what it is.
The fight house that comes over Drudge.

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Trump lasts this respectful Zelensky.
You're gambling with World War III.
Kremlin celebrates, and the video of the meltdown.
See if we can get a play over here now.
I mean, it's 15 minutes, but I tell you what, it's...

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We've had a great 35 days or whatever it might be, a month, a little more than a month.
We've accomplished tremendous amounts.
Not only this, this would be a very great achievement if we could get this to the worst
stop.
And I think you're gonna have to make.
That's all.
It's all we can do.
Getting it done...
I mean, you get the right spot here.
Answer on site.

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I will answer on more serious questions if I can.
Yeah, so please, about five times.
That's why we will never want to divide a lot.
Okay, let's get to the good part here.
Hang on.
Sorry, people.
What if the whole Poland's in a tough neighborhood, you know?
I'm just a business person.

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And I think that everybody will die.
Because they've been...
Hold on, hold on.
I didn't have time to edit this.
I know that Secretary of Commerce Lutnick followed up in private meetings last night.
This is trade events.
We believe Americans have the right to speak their mind, even if we in this room disagree
with them.
They have the right to speak their mind in the public square, which is often online these

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days.
And we're gonna defend that right as it pertains to American companies and American citizens
vigorously if we have to.
I do think that under the president's leadership, we're gonna find common ground with our friends
in the UK on this question.
But it remains to be seen.
The principle that will guide us is we believe in free speech in this country and we'll fight
for it for American citizens.

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Mr. President, is there any other oil and gas component for you?
I'll study that now, see.
The country that has made there.
So we tried the pathway of Joe Biden of thumping our chest and pretending that the president
of the United States' words mattered more than the president of the United States' actions.

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What makes America a good country is America engaging in diplomacy.
That's what President Trump is doing.
Can I ask you?
Sure.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Okay.
So he occupied our parts, big parts of Ukraine, parts of East and Crimea.
So he occupied it on 2014.

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So during a lot of years, I'm not speaking about just Biden, but those time was Obama,
then President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, now President Trump
and God bless, now President Trump will stop him.
But during 2014, nobody stopped him.
He just occupied and took.

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He killed people.
You know what the contact was?
2015.
2014.
So that was President Trump.
He killed Zelensky and 3D Vance.
And I have commentary on this.
What the situation is the same, that people have been dying on the contact line.

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Nobody stopped him.
You know that we had conversations with him.
A lot of conversations, my bilateral conversation.
And we signed with him, me, like a new president in 2019.
I signed with him the deal.
I signed with him Macron and Merkel.
We signed ceasefire.

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All of them told me that he will never go.
We signed him with gas contraband.
Gas contraband.
Yes, but after that, he broke the ceasefire.
He killed our people and he didn't exchange prisoners.
We signed the exchange of prisoners.
But he didn't do it.
What kind of diplomacy GDUS became about?

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What do you mean?
I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country.
Yes, but if you have to...
Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office to try
to litigate this in front of the American media.
Right now you guys are going around and forcing conflict to come on because you have manpower
problems.
You should be thanking the president for trying to bring it into this conflict.

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And I've been to Ukraine.
Did you say what problems we have?
I have been to...
And come once.
But actually, I've actually watched and seen the stories and I know what happens is you
bring people, you bring them on a propaganda...
Mr. President, do you disagree that you've had problems like bringing people into your
military?
And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of

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America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your
country?
A lot of questions.
Let's start from the beginning.
Sure.
I think during the war everybody has problems, even you, but you have nice ocean and don't
feel now, but you will feel it in diffusion.
God bless you.
God bless you.

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God bless you.
God bless you.
Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
We're trying to solve a problem.
Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
I'm not telling you.
Because you're in no position to dictate that.
Remember that.
You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
We're going to feel very good.
We're going to feel very good and very strong.

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You're right now not in a very good position.
You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position at his embassy right about now.
You're not in a good position.
You don't have the cards right now.
With us you start having cards.
Right now you don't have your play cards.
You're gambling with the lives of millions of people.

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It gets better.
And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country, that's back
to you, far more than a lot of people said they should have.
Have you said thank you once?
That's a lot of times.
No, in this entire meeting that you said thank you, you went to Pennsylvania and campaign

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for the opposition in October, offer some words of appreciation for the United States
of America and the president who's trying to save your country.
Please, you think that if you will speak very loudly about the war you can speak.
He's not speaking loudly.
He's not speaking loudly.
Your country is in big trouble.
My children would disagree, but I agree with the president.

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Your country is in big trouble.
I know.
You're not winning.
You're not winning this.
You have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us.
We are staying in our country, staying strong from the very beginning of the war.
We've been alone and we are thankful.
I said thanks in this cabinet.
We gave you through the stupid president 350 billion dollars.

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We gave you military equipment and you met up brave but they had to use our military equipment.
If you didn't have our military equipment, this war has been over in two weeks.
In three days.
I heard it from Putin in three days.
This is something.
And he makes a gesture.

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Three days.
I heard it already.
I'm going to tell you this.
I said thank you.
I said it all the time.
Except that there are disagreements and let's go litigate those disagreements rather than
trying to fight it out in the American media when you're wrong.
We know that you're wrong.
But you see I think it's good for the American people to see what's going on.

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I think it's very important.
I think that was the whole point of this.
You have to be thankful.
You don't have the cards.
You're buried there.
People have died.
You're running low on soldiers.
Listen.
You're running low on soldiers.
It would be a damn good thing.
Then you tell us I don't want to ceasefire.
I don't want to ceasefire.

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I want to go and I want this.
If you could get a ceasefire right now.
I take it.
So the bullets stop flying and your men stop getting killed.
Of course we want to stop the war.
But I said I want to ceasefire.
I want to ceasefire because you get a ceasefire faster than an agreement.
Ask our people about ceasefire what they think.

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That wasn't for you.
That wasn't with me.
That was with a guy named Biden who was not a smart person.
That was with Obama.
It was your brother.
Excuse me.
That was with Obama who gave you sheets and I gave you javelins.
I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks.
Obama gave you sheets.

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In fact the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins.
You got to be more thankful because let me tell you you don't have the cards.
With us you have the cards.
But without us you don't have any cards.
One more question to my editor, Vice President.
I'm sorry.
It's going to be a tough deal to make because the attitudes have to change.

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What if Russia breaks his heart?
What if Russia breaks his thoughts?
What if the bomb drops on your head right now?
What if they broke it?

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I don't know.
They broke it with Biden because Biden didn't respect him.
They didn't respect Obama.
They respect me.
Let me tell you Putin went through hell of a lot with me.
He went through a phony witch hunt where they used him and Russia.
Russia, Russia, Russia.
He gave that deal.
That was a phony Hunter Biden, Joe Biden scam.

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Hillary Clinton, shifty Adam Schiff.
It was a Democrat scam.
And he had to go through that.
And he did go through it.
We didn't end up in a war.
And he went through it.
He was accused of all that stuff.
He had nothing to do with it.
It came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom.
It was disgusting.
And then they said, oh, oh, the laptop from hell was made by Russia, the 51 agents.

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The whole thing was a scam.
And he had to put up with that.
He was being accused of all that stuff.
All I can say is this, he might have broken deals with Obama and Bush, and he might have
broken them with Biden.
He didn't.
Maybe.
Maybe he didn't.
I don't know what happened.
But he didn't break them with me.
He wants to make a deal.
I don't know if you can make a deal.

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The problem is I've empowered you to be a tough guy.
And I don't think you'd be a tough guy without the United States.
I mean, your people are very brave.
But you're either going to make a deal or we're out.
And if we're out, you'll fight it out.
I don't think it's going to be pretty.
But you'll fight it out.
But you don't have the cards.

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But once we sign that deal, you're in a much better position.
But you're not acting at all thankful.
And that's not a nice thing.
I'll be honest.
That's not a nice thing.
All right.
I think we've seen enough.
What do you think?
This is going to be great television.
I will say that.
We'll see what we can do about putting it.
Thanks, sir.
So this afternoon, this afternoon, they, what's the word I'm looking for?

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They release this 11 minutes, right, of the press conference.
And apparently the press conference goes on and on and on after this.
And what they ended up doing was, here I'm getting the stream straightened out, what
they ended up doing was, they released that.

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And then they released the whole thing.
Well, let me just give some sausage making information here, as I say, the back office.
So when you're videotaping this stuff, or video recording it, you have to render the
video a little bit, where you have to process it.
You got to do editing.

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You got to do this and that.
Even to do a little edit like this, approximately 11, 13 minutes somewhere in that range, that
takes time.
You have to download it to your device, your, right, and in those kinds of cameras, they
usually have an SD card with that that goes into the computer, right, where it's connected

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something, and then you have to go there.
You have to download it into whatever program you have.
And then you got to take that out at 11 minutes, 13 minutes.
Then you have to go, you have to render it.
Well, 11 minute high-vol-quality video, you're looking at somewhere around 600 megabytes.
And you got to post it and do everything else.

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This takes time.
That's what I did the first 11 minutes, I suspect.
So, people said, well, no, this was edited.
That's what I heard.
This was edited.
It was, well, guess what?
This is what goes into it.
And then later on, about 45 minutes later, they released the whole video, which was,

(51:55):
you know, time-wise, it's pretty good.
This is what's going on, regardless of what your opinion is of the President Trump or
Biden or Obama they mentioned and everything else.
A lot of the stuff, right, we were giving aid to the Ukrainians for a long time.

(52:19):
Some of this USAID money went to Ukraine, from my understanding.
I haven't been able to really verify that in writing, but this is what I have heard.
This is what I have read and everything that it's got.
So, we were involved a long time in Ukrainian politics.
One of their presidents, his name escapes me, was one of the few cases of chloracne

(52:45):
out there, more of the KGB, he was very photogenic in the KGB, poisoned him with some type of
chlorine compound.
He got chloracne and wasn't that photogenic anymore.
And that's, and you know, they're involved, this and that, orange revolution.
The whole nine yards, there's a complete and total mess.

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Friend of the program also got involved in this local guy, where he's an international
arms dealer, and he was going to, he got thrown off YouTube because he said, look, Biden,
Obama, Biden administration screwed up one of my deals, and they said, no, that never

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happened, throw him off of YouTube, throw him off of Facebook, throw him here, and then
he produced the video.
They said, you're not an international arms dealer, and then he showed them the video
of him, because everything over there, on that side of the world, a lot of stuff is
video recorded, a video of him with like a top end general of Ukraine selling small arms.

(53:53):
So, the guy was lying.
He's not a liar, believe me.
You know, so all of this goes in there, the context, and with the war starts, and then
they had, you know, the Russia's amassing troops on the border, and rather than going
in there and trying to make a deal, they start the war, and then all of a sudden money starts
to flow in, and Ukraine is like one of the, one of the money-laundering capitals of the

(54:20):
world at the time, and all different types of shameful activities going on with kids
over there, like, you know, Allah, the hunter by laptop, and for complete disclosure, I
believe that guy, who had the computer store because I know him, I used to know him.
I bought a computer off of him, and he was a friend of a friend of mine, and you know,

(54:43):
he had the old blind man working on computers, and he ended up having to move somewhere out
to Denver somewhere, you know, in the middle of nowhere.
So this is a long, not nice people you're dealing with here.
Not nice people, Ukrainian people are nice, I know Ukraine, wonderful people, leadership,

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not so much.
Right?
Then he goes, they go over to Russia, and everything else, and it's all screwed up.
Here and now, now Trump gets in there, he wants an end to this, for one life, I believe
that Trump was all about the first administration, he wanted, human life was more valuable than

(55:25):
money, but he wants this war to end for that, and I, I happen to believe him on that, maybe
his methods are wrong, but I happen to agree with him.
So he says, I gotta be friends with everybody here, to try to get everybody to the table
and hammer out a deal, and this is what the news media fails to understand, and us in

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the western Europe, and the west United States fails to understand.
All right?
When you're dealing with this culture in Poland, Ukraine, Czech Republic, Slovakia, all of
these things, they're all basically in Russia, and the Lithuania, which used to be part of

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Poland, Latvia, Estonia, the Baltic Republics, all of those areas there, different culture
than the United States.
We were with some German tourists on our vacation last week, and they said, you people
in America are so open and so nice, you gotta understand over there, those people are nice,

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they're not.
That's a very close word, once you get into Europe and you get further east, people don't
talk.
People, right, I worked with a lot of Polish people involved in the Polish community, guess
what, the Ukrainian community, there's some overflow here.
These folks hold their cards very close.
Number one, number two, if they make changes, doesn't matter whether it's a political change,

(57:02):
policy change, safety in the workplace, what have you, it's considered a masculine, it's
considered a sign of weakness.
And I think that's what's going on here with Zelenski, is that he does want to seem weak.
Unfortunately, though when you start to act this way, somebody has a basically a blank

(57:30):
give me a blank check, sign on the dotted line, we're gonna grab some resources here, and
everything you gotta make some deals or we gotta make it worth our while.
If we have skin in the game over in your country, you're gonna be more secure, you gotta have
it in your head, well maybe I should keep my mouth shut, and maybe I gotta take a little

(57:51):
bit of views.
That's not the culture over there.
You're seeing classic Ukrainian, Polish, Eastern European culture.
Believe me, whether you're dealing with the person on the street, or now we have a demonstration,
leader of a country, it's the same thing.

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Now, let's put this into a little bit more context.
You think he's been terrorized, you think people he loved died, and things he, no, he's
that war, he's that war, you wanna show weakness here, and a little bit of that went into this.
Basically, had he kept his mouth shut, things would have worked out okay.

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But because he didn't do that, I believe his political career is hurt at a minimum, however
you wanna define hurt.
But he may not be, that's it, I think that's it.
Just my read on the thing.
Now, we're gonna go into hour two here.

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We got one minute 48, and we're gonna put in our outro.
We're gonna go into hour two for this program, and use safety FM people.
Hour two, we're gonna talk a little bit about safety because something incredible happened.
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Oh yeah, Safety Wars, hour two.
How's everybody doing?
We're going to go into a little bit more news here.

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And here we are.
Now the disclaimer on the first hour is always that we are not usually part of the story.
But this time we might be part of the story here.
So anyone who knows me privately knows that I am, one of the big things is abuse of children

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is a real big deal for me.
Huge.
Right?
And in our country, always this has been the problem.
There are communities of people who abuse children, pedophiles, F-O files, which is
people who, children have reached puberty, and now it's an F-O file, what they do.

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And then pedophiles, usually before puberty, where you have abuse of them.
They're normalization of this behavior.
Back in the day, I mean even a hundred years ago, and you look at some of the stuff where
women were getting married, or in some cases boys were getting married, they were nine-year-old

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girls, 10-year-old girls, you see this.
Because back then it was acceptable.
You had high infant mortality, you had rampant poverty, and families used to do this sort
of thing.
I'm not making a judgment, you just know what it was.
In the 1930s, law started to get passed that prohibited that and put a minimum age of 16,

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unless there were other circumstances in a lot of places.
But every state was different where they did this.
And then it was interracial marriage, and then same sex marriage in the culture wars
in the 1990s and 2010s.
All of that went on.
And again, now we get into this whole thing.

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Minor attracted men, or minor attracted women.
Right, where they have, and there's all different types, and a lot of people are trying to normalize
this.
You can't tell me anything else.

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So you had another organization, I'm not going to mention it on the air, that was a
big promoter of this, I remember growing up.
So when I saw, and I have complete disclosure here, I am on the witness list for some litigation
in this area, all right, with this.

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But that's all I'm allowed to say, so for complete disclosure here, which is what I
like to do here for you folks.
About two years ago, I started reading the, when we turned this into a live broadcast,
in three, we started covering press releases.

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We're looking for things to talk about.
Because we all know with podcasting, most podcasts only last a couple of episodes, like
anywhere from 12 to like 25 episodes.
And what I tell people when they get involved in podcasting, I said, anybody out there could
talk, the first 10 episodes is easy to find stuff to talk about.

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What do you do after the first 10 episodes?
So we had to start looking at other stuff.
And I said, well, I want to cover some of the news.
And me and Jay Allen had gone and we had talked, okay, what do you want to do, this sort of
thing.
I don't think I'm violating anything now, because he is the owner of the station.

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He's not, you know, and we're going to have to talk.
Well, what are you looking at?
What are you trying to do?
So you help me along here.
Okay.
And what I eventually evolved into was taking the press releases from OSHA, from Department

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of Labor.
And Biden administration was very prodigious in issuing press releases.
And I know since Trump has curtailed a lot of them, very few press releases.
And what was one of the themes running through the Department of Labor was child labor violations.

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You think it's like the 1800s here, early 1900s, where child labor, child labor, and
you know, and this and that stuff.
And I'm like, what the hell?
I start reading this and I start sharing it on the air and I'm like, what the hell?
And I'm like the only one doing it in our universe, in our safety universe and in the

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Department of Labor universe.
Why are all these child labor, and then it comes out in an associated press that were,
that there are 300 children on the low end that are unaccounted for.
And there were a couple of documentaries on this, where the children and this and that,
because they're coming over the border, Southern border primarily, coming in elsewhere, where

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you know, with their company by an adult, but it's not a family member.
And then all of a sudden they think, where do they go?
They don't show up to court.
They lose track of where the hell are they?
And now what's the theory?
The theory is that they are brought into this country to be brought into this country to

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be food for the pedophiles, because we do have a pedophile ring in this country.
With my experience, and because of the case that I'm involved in, no doubt in my mind
that there's a pedophile ring.
The only question is, how extensive is it?
With the former President Biden and the situation his son got into in Ukraine, where there

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is video of this, in a bathtub surrounded by what appeared to be underage women, I had
to say maybe there's some truth to this.
A friend of mine from church, my old church, her brother got picked up in Thailand with

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underage boys and girls.
He was arrested and brought back to this country, and he has all different legal issues
at the time.
And he also confessed to the John May Ray Ramsey murder, believe it or not.
So you've got a real winner here.
So no doubt in my mind.
What happens is, so the theory is, I don't know how true this is, is that they come

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in for pedophilia, then they come in for prostitution later on, and then they come slave labor,
and then they become working donors.
They get them out of the country, they become working donors.
And apparently that's the pattern that we're hearing about, or they end up unaliving them.

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That's the word with that.
What's the word nowadays?
So my shock, no, I missed the Lori Chavez deramir hearing for the Senate right there,
and it wasn't well publicized, but I downloaded it, and I started listening to it this week,

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and I'm like, holy guvno.
I'm shocked.
What do you think half of the questions were it seemed that she was asked about?
Is she going to, how will she handle all of these child labor issues?
And will she be asked?
I said, did they bring up the old secretary labor, the other secretary labor, and ask

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that person, what are you doing about this?
No, but they brought her there and asked her about doing it.
She's not even a thing.
And it's like, I'm the only one talking about this.
And this ends up in Congress.
Could they have listened to the safety war show?
And I don't know.

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But you heard it here first.
It's my point.
If you've been following along for two years.
So this one became part of the congressional record.
You could go and check it out.
We're going to be releasing some videos on this and highlights that I was working on
today to get that done.

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I mean, this is scary stuff here.
And as it was in the movie, Moneyball, at the end, you hit a home run and you didn't
even know it, right?
With that, with the Kevin Costner character for the Oakland A's.
You might have hit a home run here, not Kevin Costner.

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Brad Pitt was in that.
Kevin Costner was somewhere, but Brad Pitt, you hit a home run and you didn't know it.
And that's basically what we might have done here.
We might have gotten out some stuff.
That's not the first time.
We've had a couple of other stories to recover.
For example, September 27th or 28th, 2023, we talked about the Electoral College.

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Guess what?
Next weekend, everyone's talking about the Electoral College and how to get on the ballot.
Like us.
So basically what I'm saying here, we are the tip of the spear.
When we're able to, we're able to get out stories way ahead of time.
The first major story we had was when this was in 2021, where we were talking about the

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Tennessee Department of Health, and we talked about this with Jay Allen on the Radio R safety
show, issuing, putting on the PDFs of the vaccination cards and people downloading them.
It took the mainstream media three months to catch on to that story.

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We covered it here first on safety wars and safety FM, the rate of our safety show.
We had a local fire here, 2021, very controversial nursing home burned down.
We covered that program here.
We covered the report here.

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That was our biggest show that we ever had.
And people are still emailing me here.
Well, we went over the fire report for that.
So that's what we're into doing.
That's what I really wanted to share with you folks today.
And why we got it went into our two is that we are on the tip of the sphere here with

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safety wars here with all of this stuff here.
Now, Jay Allen being our leader here on the safety FM network with the rate of our safety
shows and the Jay Allen show and organizing this.
And I wanted to thank him for the last since 2021.

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We're going four years here doing this and we're going into our fifth season of safety
wars and we hope to expand.
We're probably not going to be on every day or three to five times a week.
We have some project work that came up.
If you want to advertise with us, we're getting we're getting tens of thousands of views and

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downloads here.
I know that's not as much as a lot of other programs.
So this is a safety related program.
You want to advertise with us, you're going to get one hell out of an advertisement here.
Join us.
So here we have on the story we just talked about.
This is from Huffington Post.

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Democrats saved Trump's Labor Secretary nominee in committee.
President Donald Trump's nominee to lead the Labor Department, Lori Chavez-Doremi, advanced
out of a Senate committee on Thursday.
That's the Democrats lending their voices.
Five out of 14 to nine.
Shaves the rear, the mirror, the remer, cleared the house, the Senate Health, Education, Labor
and Prison and Pensions panel.

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The committee has 12 Republicans and 11 Democrats, meaning if any Republican votes yes, every
Democrat votes no, a nominee will advance.
Typically senators in the party of the president vote to advance.
But in Chavez-Doremi's case, Senator Rand Paul, complete disclosure, I worked with his
father, bucked Trump and voted no.

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Senator Lisa Mikowski of Alaska missed the vote, but later requested that she be recorded
as a yes.
If every Democrat had voted no, Chavez-Doremi's nomination would have ended in committee by
a vote of 11 to 12, but three Democrats voted to advance her nomination.
There are senators Maggie Hassan from New Hampshire, John Hickenloofair of Colorado and Tim Kaine

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of Virginia.
Their support for Chavez-Doremi and the fact that they just saved her nomination flies
in the face of progressive groups that have been urgent Democrats who oppose all of Trump's
nominees and use every procedural tool to stop the president's reckless dismantling
of federal government.
That's according to them.

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All right.
With that going on, again, Constituent Labor Union supported her in her state.
And let's see how to vote.
Do they have a vote scheduled here?

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Okay.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Sean O'Brien, the team's leader who had Trump's years urged President Chucho of Aztec
Remmer for the labor post, but it has also created hurdle for her with anti-union Republicans
who vehemently opposed the pro act.

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Right?
And there was a law called the Pro Act that she supported.
And going on.
Okay.
But I don't know.
We'll see how this goes down here with this.

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Now I had a conversation with someone today on how to reform Oshun, some of the ideas
I've been collecting.
So when the other person, his name escapes me now, let me look at nominee for Oshun.

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Here you go.
This is from 10 days ago.
Teamsters fact Trump's Oshun nominee, but dissent emerges.
And it's David Keeling of senior leadership at DOL.
Oshun under a second Trump administration is taking shape.
So we have Keith Sonderling, nominee for deputy secretary of labor.

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He is a former EEOC commissioner.
David Keeling is nominee for assistant secretary of labor for Oshun.
Again he is a safety professional, which I believe is a really good thing.
Amanda would lay how nominee for deputy assistant secretary under Oshun.

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And this would be the legal and policy expert.
It looks like, no, what that is formerly of the occupying safety and health review commissioner.
And Wayne Palmer, nominee for M.S.H.
administrator.
He appears to be somebody who's not only a regulatory veteran and has leadership experience

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at M.S.H. but also worked in the mining industry.
So let's see how this goes.
Should be taking shape, I would think, by the next month here with this.
So we had a word chart working out here.

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So we'll see what happens.
We'll see what happens.
That's all.
With this.
And boom, boom, boom.
But let me run through one more time.
Let's see if we have anything in the news.
It's just we're living in interesting times here.

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But after his meeting with Trump, Zelensky got through a little, reportedly got escorted
out of the White House.
Other things going on this weekend here.
Right?
Hope health worsens in the hospital.
Let's keep in our thoughts and prayers.

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A lot of Catholics are very, with that, the UK and overseas papers are already coming
out.
Here we have.
Zelensky kicked out of White House.
Had to Trump show down as peace talks collapse.

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Right?
President Donald Trump will roughly halt the peace talks between Russia and Ukraine and
Cape Presidents Zelensky out of the White House after a blistering overall for the
shouting match between the two leaders.
I don't know if that's recorded, reportedly things happen off record also.

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Trump wrote Zelensky apologized to Trump and Trump wrote, it's amazing what comes out through
emotion I have determined that President Zelensky is not ready for peace if America is involved.
And I don't know.
You had Trump laying hands on Zelensky too.

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And one of the photos.
And what a mess.
Again, but we know how things turn out on the other hand, so we're only playing Monday

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morning quarterback here.
That's all I got for this program.
I hope to see everybody tomorrow.
I'll be releasing some highlights of some of this stuff and we'll go from there.
So I will catch you folks later on then.
For safety words, this is Jim Pozel.

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We will see you tomorrow.
Hopefully or some other time over the weekend.
We'll put on some music after this.

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So surreal when the drones reveal what they concede.
Well, public tone.

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You and me were one of a kind
Fire extinguisher, spark of desire
Emergency exits, this love's on fire
Heart had it real, yeah we comply
Our love's as strong as reinforced supply
Our love's like gears, it turns so true

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Turbines of passion spin in with you
Mechanical love is built to last
Safety first, romance moving fast
Danger signs, no weeds online
We're safety certified, hearts aligned
Locked out, tagged out, hearts intertwined

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Work site romance, it's OSHA approved
Love that's steady, never misused
Red tape barriers can't keep us apart
Love evolves safety from the start
Danger signs, no weeds online
We're safety certified, hearts aligned

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Locked out, tagged out, hearts intertwined

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You better not stay down
Laugh at the scars you've caused so deep
To be tough, you gotta lose some sleep

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Sorry about that, hold on

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We tear apart, stumbling through light
Like a blindfolded clown
If you trip, you better not stay down
Laugh at the scars you've caused so deep

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To be tough, you gotta lose some sleep
If you're gonna be stupid, you better be strong
Learn to dance when things go wrong
Every wrong step is a left-cooked deal

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If you're gonna be stupid, you better be made of steel
Bruises and bad cars made you wise

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Struggle and boldens those heavy sighs
Jump off the cliffs and brace the fall
Only the bold survive it all
Grim through the pain and wear it proud

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Sing your regrets clear and loud
Mistakes teach more than safety nets
It's the heat that forges the best
If you're gonna be stupid, you better be strong

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Learn to dance when things go wrong
Every wrong step is a left-cooked deal
If you're gonna be stupid, you better be made of steel

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Saving the dance from the fact you've been through
Fill out the forms, don't ignore the chore
Accidents recorded by the score
Oceans knocking open the door
Logs and summaries neatly in place

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In the end, it will save you face
Workplace safety is the race
Gotta keep a steady pace
Report it right, don't delay
It's your right, Oceans way
Workers' lives matter every day
Let's keep the hazards at bay

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Injury lock from January to December
Numbers you won't want to remember
By little handle with care
Do it right, be aware
Keeping track makes us strong
Prevents what could go wrong
OSHA speaks, we sing along
Join the safety zone

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Post the laws from February to May every year
Safety first, keep it clear
Workers' rights loud and clear
Sound the alarm spread to cheer

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Logs and summaries neatly in place
In the end, it will save you face
Workplace safety is the race
Gotta keep a steady pace
Report it right, don't delay

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Injury lock, don't delay

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Took on the mission to make those places clean
Safety that is PPE, OSHA rules
Well next thing you know, old gyms in high demand
Teaching folks safety from the mines to the land
Said we gotta keep them safe
Make sure they know the score

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About hazards and the dangers that they just can't ignore
Rainin' that is, inspections, safety plan
So now they call him up
Safety wars is here to stay
Fightin' the good fight, keepin' dangers at bay
Tune in and learn with Jim
He's got the safety know-how

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Cause safety wars is on
And we're startin' right now
Safety wars that is, set a spell
Take your time, stay safe now, you hear?

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Well next thing you know, old gyms in high demand
Teaching folks safety from the mines to the land
Said we gotta keep them safe
Make sure they know the score
About hazards and the dangers that they just can't ignore
Training that is, inspections, safety plans

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Stay safe now

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Safety wars love, we cherish this way
Guidelines we follow, come what may
With you by my side, I feel secure
In this love our hearts find the cure

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Your smile is my protective gear
Together we conquer every fear
Hand in hand, we set the pace
Life's a safe haven in your embrace

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We build our love on solid ground
In every rule our strength is found
No hazards can break what we've begun

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In this safety dance we move as one
Trust in carrying every glance
Love's a full time safety dance

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With every measure our love grows strong
In this life you and I belong

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Statue is a saved haven
Through this life we sing
In a noble whisper

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