March 5, 2025 • 63 mins
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Secretary of DOT made some comments that included shame, blame, and fire. Jim shares his insights on accidents investigations.
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And welcome to season 5 of Safety Wars.
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How's everybody doing out there?
Anyway, a lot going on, a lot going on.
I did not get a ramped up Looting Fridays program, we'll do that very shortly here.
It was on the streamers, but not on the pod casting.
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So we're working on it, we're working on it.
I want to thank Jay Allen, I want to thank my family, I want to thank everybody else
for making this possible, and we're only looking forward to expanding and improving.
We're safety people, we're always about learning and improving and expanding, and I'll continue
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to be your all-around, brave guy, safety guy.
I am the safety guy on your side.
Safety's me, Safety Wars.
We live in very interesting times.
I will, and I'll leave it at that, extremely interesting times.
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Well, what do you mean, Jim?
I tell you what, a lot going on here.
This is the time, the times that try men's souls, so they stay, right?
So what are we going to be doing here?
This is a lot of the...
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Part of the safety war is getting accurate, honest information.
I think we could all agree on that, can we all agree on that?
Yeah, give me a thumbs up, thumbs down.
Yeah, that's basically, you know, it's getting accurate information, because as we know,
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information leads to bad decisions.
And we are constantly being bombarded with information that is often very inaccurate,
extremely inaccurate.
Well, what do you mean, Jim?
I mean, very inaccurate.
I don't know what else to say.
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We have...
No, we've experienced life.
We experienced life where a lot going on, we have a lot going on.
And what happens is people deal with little snippets of information and run with it.
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And what are we...
You know, one of the things is, well, I had here, well, there is no such thing as Social
Security fraud, okay?
Guess what?
There is Social Security fraud.
Oh, well, do that.
And that's all in relation to the...
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No, to what's going on in Washington here, right?
No, I've been following the news for an awful long time.
There is Social Security fraud all the time.
The question is how much and does it really make a difference?
The answer is, and as we mentioned recently, and they're going to update the thing, update
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the statistics this week, you know, should be this week, maybe next week, is that to
earn for the federal government to raise $1 million, right?
To raise $1 million, it's 15.7 years of work for the average worker, right?
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I started using this number and I do know that people are listening to this show out
there.
I know it absolutely for a fact because, and we're going to edit a little bit more, we
had the secretary of labor, Lori Chavez, right, the proposed one.
I don't believe that she's been voted in as of yet, and we'll talk about what I was doing
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today as a public service announcement, has been voted in yet.
I believe the vote is scheduled.
If it hasn't happened already, it's going to happen this week on her.
What were they talking about?
They were talking about, and there's a lot of questions on child labor and are these
like the children that are coming up that are undocumented, right, and what's she going
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to do about it?
We're really the only program talking about this.
I'm sure there's some obscure website, and maybe I'm linking a couple of posts on it,
but we're like the only program talking about it.
There are a whole bunch of other issues also that are out there that people talk about,
that we talk about on the program that ended up in the Senate hearing on this thing.
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We know people are listening.
Even if there's a million dollars in fraud and misallocation, that's 15.7 man years.
That goes into that million dollars the way it is.
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We're going to talk about that in a minute here after we go to commercials.
I had a medical procedure today here with, you know, I had a medical procedure here today.
It is specifically, I had a colonoscopy and no, everything turned out okay.
I didn't have any symptoms or anything.
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The doctor just sort of to go up and take a look because there was some concerns, family
history, that sort of thing.
I want to stress it to you how important it is to go for a colonoscopy.
Very, very, very important here.
We use some being, well, why are you talking about it?
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Why?
I've known two people who have died from colon cancer in my life.
One I knew, the other one was one of my friends, his mother.
It's a very, what my experience is, again, I'm not giving medical advice or making any
recommendations.
You need to go to your own doctor for that and your own, and you know, who knows your
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medical history, you got to, you know, seek out why is cancel on this.
The cases that I've heard of colon cancer, either I've read or I know or things like
that, and it's been, basically, you don't know you haven't until it's like stage three
or stage four.
It's relatively asymptomatic.
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So it's important, because I have a family history of not colon cancer and other colon
issues, so it's unlike the five-year program, but usually it's between five and 10 years
to go through the, you go through the check on the screen.
The first time I went was during COVID, the height of COVID, and you know, I don't, I
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don't believe around when it comes to this, when it comes to this kind of stuff.
I was delayed by a year, because I'm all the COVID craziness, right, and I had mine
in, I believe it was 2021.
So I had it four years ago, but I had it, but there was issues coming up, so now I'm
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not going to discuss that there, that they felt I needed to go again.
So but anyway, the doctor comes down and says, hey, Jimmy, I got it.
First, I woke up in the middle of the procedure.
That didn't happen today.
At least they said it happened.
They knocked me back out.
I don't want to be out for nothing right now.
You knocked me out for the, I'm out.
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All right.
I mean, you know, it was bizarre.
I'm talking to the doctor and I'm watching this up, you know, watching your colon up
on the camera and everything is pretty cool because I'm into, I watch stuff like that.
But you know, but anyway, he says to me, Mr. Poulsel, let me be very, very frank with
you.
Thank God you came in now for this.
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Is it really?
He said, yeah, we took off a number of polyps here and I forget what the number was.
He said, and one of them was huge, huge, you know, it was like, it was like one, you know,
it was like a two centimeters, two and a half centimeters.
I'm really not supposed to take off anything more than that.
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Anything larger than that.
But I, and it was right at the limit.
I thought I could do it.
I got it done.
He said, had you waited another year, we would have a significantly different outcome.
And this would have been a significantly different conversation we're having.
So he says, he says, I realize COVID and delay and everything, but don't screw around with
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this.
You know, you gotta, you know, you gotta keep on top of this.
So thankfully then everything worked out.
I imagine everything will work out this time.
They sent everything out for a biopsy, but do not screw around.
If you need a colonoscopy, go and get it.
Any of these medical testing.
So what is a colonoscopy?
So basically they, it was like if you're a Star Trek fan, LeBorg with a probe and it
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has like a probe on it and with all different types of instruments on the end.
So along tech, along, right.
So basically along flexible tube is inserted into the rectum and tiny video camera at the
tip of the tube, last not to review the inside of the entire colon.
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And you get pictures at the end of it too.
They're pretty cool pictures.
If necessary problems or other types of abnormal tissue can be removed through the scope during
the colonoscopy.
Tissue samples biopsy can be taken during a colonoscopy as well.
And what do they do for?
Investigate internal intestinal signs and symptoms.
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So abdominal pain, rectal bleeding, chronic diarrhea, and other intestinal problems.
Scream for colon cancer.
Right.
Look up for war problems or treat an issue of some sort.
That's basically it.
And what I hear and it's absolute baloney as far as I'm concerned.
Absolute and complete baloney.
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Oh, I don't want to go for the colonoscopy because of the prep.
The prep is horrible.
That stuff is horrible tasting.
Jim, you wouldn't believe how horrible.
This is all I hear.
Really?
Okay.
Is it like the best thing I've tasted?
No, but it's similar to like some of the sports drinks that people drink.
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I mean, you know, let's be honest, you know, and I mean, I drink, you know, you used to
what I drink here on the air.
It's a brand of soda that has stevia in it.
So it's a little bit different.
I like it.
Well, some people don't like it.
And when I said to the doctor, you know, we were commenting, hey, Mr. Puzzle, how did
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you do on colon prep?
Thumbs up.
No problem.
I'm telling you, everybody complains about that drink that they give you.
I said, if you throw a little bit of alcohol in it, and we could probably sell that as
a new sports drink at a bar and it would have a dual purpose.
He says, well, Jimmy, what do you mean dual purpose?
The one purpose, the dual purposes that you would have, you'd be able to make money off
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it.
But the other thing is, it's a prophylactic.
He says, why would you be a prophylactic?
You're not doing anything else running to the bathroom.
And ha ha ha.
You got a really good laugh out of it.
So, you know, that doesn't taste bad at all.
I mean, that's, yeah, could it taste better?
Maybe, maybe not.
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I don't know, but come on.
For the benefit that you're getting, it's really big, really good.
And that's all I'll say on that enough about my colon issues here.
So, but something to really kind of keep on top of, check with your doctor with that,
especially if you have a family history of that, and we're going to go to commercial
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Catastrophic Losses.
Environmental Disasters.
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That's my daddy.
That's yes, I am your father.
So one of our, and I'll throw a little plug in there for him, he's been encouraging me
and on occasion gives me some comments when I run into him around town.
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Coach PR from Shady45.
He's local here in New City.
I run into him at sporting events around town.
Our kids are involved in sports.
He's been coaching me a little bit and he's like, Jim, you've got to offer this and offer
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that and offer that.
So we're going to be expanding that.
It's been tough here.
So season five, we're looking up for things, are looking up here and this week I'm going
to make an attempt to be here every day, even on Ash Wednesday.
So with this, now this came across and I'm a little bit disappointed here and I'm going
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to send this over to him here, some information.
So this was, and I can't play this because this is from another website here.
No, I don't have a licensing agreement with them, but I'll read off the portion here.
In an interview, Sean Teffey, the secretary of transportation has claimed that pilots
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should lose their license and they've had made an error that resulted in an incident
already circumventing the NTSV board by saying that some of the recent safety events involving
US airlines could be pinned on pilot error.
An exclusive interview with NBC Nightly News stuff, he was finding whether he still shares
the view which he expressed following the near miss at Chicago Midway International,
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MDW, that pilots should lose their license if they make a mistake.
He said, hell yes.
The near miss at Chicago Midway and going on there was a thing you could go and check
it out.
There's a video on it.
Now this is problematic, right?
Very very problematic.
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When you are doing an investigation, I don't care if it's airline, I don't care if it's
a fire, I don't care if it's this workplace injury, it doesn't matter.
What do you want to do?
Now, I mean after the desk clears, you respond to the accident, what do you want to do?
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You want to have an investigation.
And why are you having an investigation?
This is a question that we all have to ask as safety professionals, acts investigators,
anything like that.
You want information, correct?
You want information, and this is the disadvantage of not having safety professionals involved
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at some of these agencies here.
And if they are involved, we're not talking old school safety people.
You have to have, and especially the MTSV and FAA, a lot of this stuff is critical.
It's you're talking multiple lives, catastrophic losses.
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You want to try to prevent the next one.
I don't want to, okay, let's see what happened here.
Let's try to prevent the next one.
And as we know as safety professionals, everyone wants to get to that root cause.
They want to do that tap root, root cause, find the root cause.
Guess what root cause is our negotiable in most organizations?
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Hey, how are they manifest?
Hey, Jimmy, don't be so hard on that guy.
You know, he's like our best guy, he'll get the job done.
You know, oh, yeah, you know, no.
You know, I remember here, sound familiar?
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Or you know what, or you even think you're something, you know what, that guy frankly,
such a nice guy.
I don't want to be too hard on him.
So we're not, blah, blah, blah.
Or you know what, this guy Joe over here, you know, where'd you looking for an excuse
to get rid of him?
We have a file built up on him.
We need to get rid of him, blah, blah, blah.
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So let's make the root cause analysis go towards him.
And we're going to, or, you know, you have to show who's in charge.
Jim, you know, you have to show us who's in charge.
You have to find out, shame, blame and retrain.
Whereas someone at a refinery, right?
But you know, in central Jersey said, well, no, hey, there was an accident.
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We had to figure out what happened and we had to figure out who's the blame and blah,
blah, blah.
And guess what?
We're going to go and get that person.
And then you put everybody under fear.
Oh, we're all afraid to say anything.
And then, well, now we're going to fire you for lying because you weren't quite frank
with us.
And you just want to say to the person, you know, some choice words, we'll leave it at
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that, at that point.
And then you find out from the people in the hop industry, I won't mention who, that
oh, that guy, that guy, that organization, no, they had human or organizational performance
training, no, that's what they're doing is wrong and they're doing it anyway.
So now the question is, I work with these organizations, we do a little intro to hop
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course for them.
And then we do the accident investigation or the incident.
I don't even call it that as I call us.
I use a friend Sutton.
Well, what do you taught us?
You're in the other front learning teams, we're going to learn what happened.
Well, I don't need to learn.
I've done that job before.
When did you do that job?
Oh, I came up 25 years ago doing that job.
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Now I'm a plant manager, I'm a manager.
I know what the work is.
Guess what doesn't happen.
Not going to have, you don't know what goes on in that field.
You don't know what the context is.
Why?
Yes, human error.
Right.
So let's get back to the thing on hand.
Human error.
Well, okay.
When you know what happens when someone hands me a accident investigation that says human
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error.
Right.
Well, I'm usually in the role of working for a GC general contractor, environmental management
firm.
It doesn't matter what you call host employer.
What have you?
When I get an accident investigation back and it says, we can blame this on human error.
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I throw it back.
Why is it what, well, what are you going to do about it?
Human error.
How are you going to mitigate human error?
Because human error for this guy that you just fired.
How do I know this other guy?
Human error.
Why was there human error?
What happened here?
Was your job site set up safely?
Right.
Was it set up safely?
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Why was there human error?
We go into the Yens Rasmussen modes of work.
Was he in the lack of knowledge mode or in the knowledge mode?
Was he in the rules mode or was he in the skills mode?
Because I, oh, well, what do you mean?
Well, was the job set up right?
Was it set up so he could, so if there was a problem and you had multiple safeguards
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here, right, because safety is about capacity and resilience and safeguards and was it resilient?
Was the guy, was he able to fail safely here?
If something went wrong, are you relying on a single point failure?
Or what are you doing here?
You get out the hierarchy of controls, put up the hierarchy of controls.
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What are you relying on to prevent an injury here?
We're relying on administrative controls.
We're going to have to make a rule to do something.
Oh, really?
You look at the administrative controls, the hierarchy of controls, administration.
Isn't that like towards the bottom, meaning you're going to change a rule?
And isn't that like one of the most least reliable methods?
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Oh, well, we're going to, he wasn't wearing safety glasses.
Why wasn't wearing safety glasses?
Are you enforcing the rules?
Is he not wearing safety glasses because it seemed to make sense at the time for him
not to wear safety glasses?
Does he not have the training?
Does he not have the understanding?
Did he tell you to go bleep yourself?
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I'm not wearing safety glasses.
And if that's the case, why is that person still here?
Why did he tell you that?
If you're in the New York area, what do you think I do?
Well, what training do you have?
Oh, he's 30 hour trained.
Okay, can I see the card?
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That's not required for this job.
Well, you said he's 30 hours, so let's see the card.
And then you can get to talking to the employee.
No, and the employee says, oh, he just handed me the card.
I didn't go for any training.
Oh, oh.
But one of my favorite stories is a guy dropped a conveyor at a warehouse onto his foot.
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And I said, well, can I see your boots?
And he came in the next day.
Well, you had to go to urgent care.
Came in the next day with a cast on his foot.
Oh, come on, we're doing the axe investigation.
I said, okay, well, what did you drop on your foot?
Oh, I dropped this on my foot.
I said, don't know, it's like 20 pounds.
Okay, 20 pounds.
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Why are your toes smashed?
Why are you in a cast?
Oh, my toes are all broken.
Okay.
From that?
Yeah.
And I said, can I see your boots?
Oh, yeah, here they are.
I said, these are not safety toe shoes.
What's going on here?
I said, just your toes, according to the medical report.
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What's going on here?
Well, thank God I didn't have those steel toe boots on.
Okay.
Why is that?
I'm saying this in front of like me and I have my dude on the site and I have the client,
the main client, big company, their safety person on site.
I have this person on site.
I have that person on site.
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I have that person on site.
I'm like, okay.
Now they're putting me on the spot here.
I said, what are you talking about?
Hold on.
What are you talking about?
Well, if I had steel toe boots on, my toes would have all been amputated.
I was like, number one, that's not true.
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And who told you that?
Well, no, I said, they were supposed to go over this in your outreach class that you
just showed me the card on.
Well, my boss just gave me that outreach card.
Oh, okay.
I said, who told you your toes are being amputated?
Oh, all my coworkers.
I said to him, really?
I said, okay.
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Now we're going to go through our center thing.
We started going through the whole thing, how to do the acts investigation, how to do
this.
Okay.
And I have a very lengthy questionnaire for this to collect facts because working for
a general contractor, you have to go and there's a real possibility of being sued.
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And I get to this, well, how did you get to job?
That's always, how did you get to job?
Did you apply on paper?
In the news, not news, that's online.
Did you do this?
Did you do?
Oh, my dad works here.
I said, oh, who's your dad?
Oh, my dad is so and so.
Okay.
So your dad's like the project manager.
Yeah.
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And he's his dad.
I like this father, but he's one of those project managers.
No one likes.
He's very demanding, very, right.
And a lot of people don't like him or anything else.
So really?
I said, did it ever occur?
And we go through steel to boot the whole thing, right?
I sent him, did it ever occur to you that, you know, what do you know?
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I said, let me back up here.
I said, what do people think about your father?
They said, they hate his guts.
They hate his god.
Nobody likes me.
You know, he's very strict, you know, very, very, you know, he was this, yeah, this experience.
I said, okay.
So I said, did it ever occur to you that maybe they're giving you bad safety information
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in the hopes that you're going to get hurt so you're not your father's eyes and ears
in the field?
Do you think that anybody would do that?
Oh, no, they wouldn't do that.
I said, well, they just gave you bad information on steel toe boots.
So let me let me guess what story it was.
He said, they probably explained it this way because it's always the same story they had
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before a variation there.
They had a father, grandfather, great grandfather, great uncle or some other authority figure
in their family that worked either on a shipyard and there was a longshoreman working on skid
row or something similar in the Pacific Northwest logging or something like this.
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And he was a huge load, right, maybe three, four tons, maybe more was he got underneath
it somehow.
And just as he was getting underneath it, the rigging let loose and this thing fell
and it had to be from at least 50 or 60 foot up in the air.
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This thing fell and landed on his toes and if it weren't for that steel toe, he would
have been he would still have his foot today is those today.
Does that sound familiar?
The guys look at it and he says, yeah, that's pretty much the story was, you know, in his
case, there was something else.
I said, okay, and everybody here around the table is laughing at this point.
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I said, we've all heard that story, right?
Everybody, we've all heard that story.
I said, first of all, you got to be careful about putting your feet in the line of fire,
number one.
Number two, you had a forklift.
You had a you were carrying this by hand and it was an awkward lift.
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You had a forklift available for you to do this.
And was this are you like, and I had the supervisor there to see his supervisor said, are you
behind schedule?
Are you in a rush?
I said, everybody always wants to be had a schedule.
I can't but are you behind schedule?
Is there a schedule thing here?
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So no, I said, okay.
And he's 18 years old, who was working with the major and he's not even in the industry
like a month, month and a half.
Who do you have him working with?
There's like a, oh, I have him working with the, no, whatever the guy Joe, I have worked
with Joe.
I said, isn't Joe like 19 years old and he's 18 years old?
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And Joe is like new to the industry.
He says, yeah.
And, you know, it goes on and on and on.
What's the point here?
No, this is, what's the point?
I'm not here to shame and blame.
There's a lot going on here.
So now when I get put all of the things together and you want to assign blame, was it these
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two gentlemen to blame?
What was 19?
What was 18?
What was in the industry?
The year, year and a half.
The other one was in the industry like a month and a half.
Or it was a their fault.
They see other people there walking around doing things.
Hey, and they're in the knowledge mode, right?
With that.
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So same thing with these pilots here, these air traffic controllers.
You got a lot of things going on here for there to be a near miss.
Like was in this case that Sean, a secretary Duffy was talking about.
There's a lot going on.
There's got to be a, no, the fact that there was a near miss and not an accident is a miracle.
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I'd be interested is how that belief was this not an accident.
And thank God we have enough resilience and capacity in the system that we didn't have
an issue.
Let's look on the positive side here.
We have an issue, but it's not, you know, we didn't have any fatalities here.
So let's try to find out what happened.
And if you're going to come down all adversarial on people, because I tell you what, I, if
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even if I was a pilot, I would be less inclined to, I would be less inclined to actually share
an information with this guy or with our cooperate with the investigators.
I'm telling you right off the, if this is the attitude of people here with this, why
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would I cooperate on anything?
Was it, I mean, perhaps it was an air traffic control issue too much going on, not enough
people.
We've heard that over the last two months.
You're not enough people there to do the work.
Maybe it was a software issue.
You're going to blame that on the person, software issue.
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You're going to blame this.
You have, you're flying a plane.
You got 20 things, 30 things going on at one time.
Maybe you have been an experienced pilot, may have been an equipment malfunction.
It might have been a lot of things.
The other thing is this, why do you have, when you're driving, why do you have insurance?
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Why, why, well, the law says you got to have insurance here, but I can, I can control what
I do and my reactions.
Generally speaking, no things might happen.
Here runs out on the road, we had a guy over here driving along about three or four years
ago, he's just driving along on the Palisades Parkway and a tree falls out of nowhere, comes
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out of nowhere, falls and falls on the car, killing him.
Right?
You can't control those things.
Right?
You have insurance because you're insuring the other, what someone else might do to you.
You don't have control over what the other driver does at all.
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Right?
So there's a lot that goes on going on.
What do we have back here?
You have our Jenga pile.
And you're taking out the bottom wreck.
I might just keep this up until we have a problem here.
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That'll be the Jim's Jenga pile.
We're taking out a bottom brick here.
We're moving on up to the top.
Right?
It didn't collapse.
When that collapses, here's the blame.
Well, I'm the only one playing.
But if you're with a group of people, that's how accidents happen.
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What goes on prior to that going up?
Right?
Just the way it is with that.
So again, we're going to tag this.
I'm going to make a video out of this section here.
I'm going to send it on over to the president and everything else.
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I'm going to be tagging because I tell you what, they're all reading this stuff.
And someone on their staff is, that's for damn sure.
I don't know who it is, by the way.
I have a pretty good idea with that.
So we're going to go to our next commercial break.
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Okay, so, uh, here I had this here and I cannot find it now.
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Uh, no, no, no.
So, unless we're going to do it around this here, right?
So Elon Musk, getting a lot, and again, this is not, uh, this is not, uh, in support of
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what he says or anything, but like I said, we're talking about fact here, right?
So he called Social Security a Ponzi scheme.
What is a Ponzi scheme?
This is a common definition.
A Ponzi scheme is an investment scam that pays early investors with money taken from
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later investors to create an illusion of big profits.
A Ponzi scheme promises a high rate of return with little risk to the investor, relies on
word of mouth as new investors hear about the big returns earned by early investors.
Inevitably, the scheme collapses on the flow of no, of new money slows, making it impossible
to keep up with payments of alleged profits.
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A Ponzi scheme, uh, is similar, uh, to a pyramid scheme that is both, uh, that in that both
new investors funds to pay earlier in backers.
The pyramid scheme usually relies on rewarding early participants to recruit war participants
with collapses when the supply of potential participants dwindles.
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A Ponzi scheme relies on a grown stream of new investors.
So, uh, what is a, that's basically it.
So how does Social Security work on this?
All right.
Here we have a fact sheet, and this is off of the Social Security, let me share it since
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I'm allowed to share that, a fact sheet on Social Security here.
So this is right from the website.
In 2025, an average of almost 69 million Americans per month will receive Social Security benefit
of totally about $1.6 trillion in benefits paid during the year.
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Uh, so Social Security is a major source of income for most people over the age of 65.
Nearly nine out of 10 people aged 65 or lower were receiving Social Security benefits as
of December 31st of last year.
Social Security benefits represent 31% of the income of people over age 65.
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Among Social Security benefits are age 65 and older.
Again, that's scary.
That's only 11 years for me, right?
39% of men and 40% of women receive 50% or more their income from Social Security.
Uh, and, uh, this information is from research released in 2024 using 2015 data and click
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on here for info.
Fire workers and their dependence accounted for 78% of total benefits.
So it goes on and on and on with that.
In 1940, life expectancy of a 65 year old was almost 14 years.
Uh, today is over 20 years.
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Number of Americans 65 and older will increase from about 61 million to 2023 to 77 million
by 2035.
So, oh, oh, demographics.
I thought, you know, people get pissed off when I discuss demographics on this show.
Right.
And the importance of this, right?
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In 2023, there were an estimate of 2.7 covered workers for each Social Security beneficiary
by 2035.
Trustee says there will be 2.4 covered workers for each beneficiary, meaning it's going to
be more and more expensive as we go along because our population demographics is going
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to change with this.
Now I am here, uh, uh, fraud.
I lost the website here.
Uh, let me go and put something on here for you people on the air and we'll get back to
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Social Security employee heads to prison for creating fake children's profiles to steal public funds
That doesn't happen here, right? None of this crap happens, we're gonna go more
Let's go again. Kokomo woman ordered by federal court to repay over $200,000 in stolen retirement benefits from a deceased husband's account. Again, I'm told this doesn't happen, right? Here. With this.
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Hart Van Mann emits fraudulently collecting Social Security unemployment and food stamps from last, this is just from last week, and it goes on, and it goes on, and it goes on, and it goes on, and it goes on, and on, and on
Here. Ozark Business Owner Sentence for Social Security Fraud and Perjury
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Well, I was sentenced to two years and three months in federal prison without parole, right, and ordered to pay $42,000, and this is from an indoor sand facility, right, and everything. One account of Social Security fraud.
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The guy was indicted for Social Security fraud, who, and right, the guy who oversaw his disabled father's benefits from 26 and 2019 converted $42,369 as his father's benefits to his own use, having testified in his own defense on trial, the blah, blah, blah, charl going on, and on, and on, and on
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But nothing happens. This is just what, remember, this is only what they report on their website. We know that they do a lot more than that.
Now, let's go back to what we were saying. And we didn't finish until Ponzi scheme, right?
We had, and I can show you a report. So I'm going to tell you what, you go onto your Social Security website, but you have, right, and going back, I have it all the way back to like 1996, 1995 paperwork, and I got it now for my parents, and from another family member, paperwork.
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They weren't us back then that they're going to go broke. I think you're not going to be able to meet their obligations. And if you look at the progression from year to year to year to year, you, what do you find out?
You find out a couple of different things. One, and again, I'm not in, this is not an investment show. I'm not making any financial recommendations. You find out that as the years progress, the time that Social Security is going to be taking in less money than it pays out keeps moving closer and closer.
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Right. So time is progressing on one end. Now, on the other end, the deadline is right. So squeeze. So now reportedly, that's already happened already a couple years back.
So this is the Ponzi scheme. Nature of this. Now, one of the things with investing is that we know what's going on now. Right. But you don't know what's going on in when decisions are made.
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Right. Because a lot could go down things could go good things would go bad.
So when you look at it, at an overall, it all depends on how long you're going to live. It's that old demographic situation.
I know somebody who did not plan at all for retirement, all different kinds of shenanigans at and everything. Psychopath. That's funny and mildly.
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He said, I'm going to start collecting at 70. Right. Didn't plan anything else. The Social Security will help me along. He didn't report income for years. Number one.
Number two was on the demographic scene, all everybody in his family lived up into their 90s from the generation before except for like accident or somebody got Parkinson's because they got a head injury and that was attributed that eventually turned into Parkinson's.
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They blame that. Right. Other than that, everyone lived into their 90s.
So how old is he? He's almost 90 now. No money. Money ran out a long time ago. Money ran down before he signed over Social Security. He didn't even want to do that.
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You look at the amount of money you put into Social Security, it's X number of dollars and the money that you made, that you put into it, you'll get back in about two or three years max.
Absolute max, the last I checked. So that means everybody else has got to support you. Right. And again, that is a, that's where the Ponzi scheme at. Similar to Ponzi scheme. And I think that's what Elon Musk was saying.
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But I'm not defending him. I'm just trying to explain where this is coming from because you hear on social media, the clip, little clip. Oh, Ponzi scheme. This is not a Ponzi scheme. This is it.
He's bad. And then the right does the same thing. And I call the man on that. Well, this person's evil. They're all, you know, they did this.
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Okay, can we please get to the bottom of things and deal with factual information here?
No, and I hope I did that. And I know that's going to be what season five is about. It's going to be about safety. But let's face it, we have to know how to evaluate.
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We have to know how to evaluate the news that we hear. Is it true? Is it not true?
Do we, what do we check? What do we double check? Don't believe everything on social media? Because right now, there's a lot of people with who are very upset that Donald Trump is president.
And I have a lot of people who did not support President Trump. But the outlandish things that they are coming up with, that they're coming up with, they're like, wrong.
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Right. One of the people last week, businessmen do not pay businesses don't pay taxes.
Right. We have to tax them. Well, guess what you pay a lot of taxes as a business person.
Pailed awful lot. There's just talking one particular tax that may or that could be mitigated. But you're paying your employees. If you have employees, you're paying taxes.
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Not a tax guy, far from it. But again, people don't understand how money is made.
And they have, you know, we have financial literacy in this country that is now coming forth. And you know, you explain to the person, hey, no, that's not the way this is here with this.
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And just be careful who you listen to. Double check, check, double check, be careful what you put on social media, because it's may not be true all the time.
Now, we have a couple of minutes left here.
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Some other weird things, right? Man killed the Bar Harbor Carve her class while was hotel firms. Mr. Fix it.
It's out of Bar Harbor Maine. A Maine native killed Monday when a car for class at Bar Harbor hotel was a long term employee, long time employee of the company.
The person worked there for 40 years and came to be known as Mr. Fix it here.
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This is out of May, Maine, but his most recent recently was a resident of Boynton Beach, Florida, not far from the resort firms offices in Delray Beach.
And the person on Monday died when a car for a camping collapse collapse at a hotel which was closed for the winter.
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This actually almost happened to my brother, believe it or not. We had a rule growing up. No smoking in the house.
My brother was a smoker. He recently gave that up.
And he was sitting on the front porch and the snow load came on the front porch. It was a lumen morning.
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And he came in the house, went up there, serious to bed about two minutes later. My father and I were watching TV.
Guess what? The awning came down. Had it been where and the way it came down, had it had even sitting where he normally sits out there.
Probably would have cut him in half there. So freak accident here with that.
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But again, OSHA's investigating with that.
What are you going to do with that?
What you're going to do is you better train your employees on this stuff and have an experienced health and safety professional check things out.
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It was on the streamers, but not on the pod casting.
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I will, and I'll leave it at that, extremely interesting times.
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Well, what do you mean, Jim?
I tell you what, a lot going on here.
This is the time, the times that try men's souls, so they stay, right?
So what are we going to be doing here?
This is a lot of the...
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Part of the safety war is getting accurate, honest information.
I think we could all agree on that, can we all agree on that?
Yeah, give me a thumbs up, thumbs down.
Yeah, that's basically, you know, it's getting accurate information, because as we know,
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information leads to bad decisions.
And we are constantly being bombarded with information that is often very inaccurate,
extremely inaccurate.
Well, what do you mean, Jim?
I mean, very inaccurate.
I don't know what else to say.
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We have...
No, we've experienced life.
We experienced life where a lot going on, we have a lot going on.
And what happens is people deal with little snippets of information and run with it.
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And what are we...
You know, one of the things is, well, I had here, well, there is no such thing as Social
Security fraud, okay?
Guess what?
There is Social Security fraud.
Oh, well, do that.
And that's all in relation to the...
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No, to what's going on in Washington here, right?
No, I've been following the news for an awful long time.
There is Social Security fraud all the time.
The question is how much and does it really make a difference?
The answer is, and as we mentioned recently, and they're going to update the thing, update
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the statistics this week, you know, should be this week, maybe next week, is that to
earn for the federal government to raise $1 million, right?
To raise $1 million, it's 15.7 years of work for the average worker, right?
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I started using this number and I do know that people are listening to this show out
there.
I know it absolutely for a fact because, and we're going to edit a little bit more, we
had the secretary of labor, Lori Chavez, right, the proposed one.
I don't believe that she's been voted in as of yet, and we'll talk about what I was doing
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today as a public service announcement, has been voted in yet.
I believe the vote is scheduled.
If it hasn't happened already, it's going to happen this week on her.
What were they talking about?
They were talking about, and there's a lot of questions on child labor and are these
like the children that are coming up that are undocumented, right, and what's she going
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to do about it?
We're really the only program talking about this.
I'm sure there's some obscure website, and maybe I'm linking a couple of posts on it,
but we're like the only program talking about it.
There are a whole bunch of other issues also that are out there that people talk about,
that we talk about on the program that ended up in the Senate hearing on this thing.
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We know people are listening.
Even if there's a million dollars in fraud and misallocation, that's 15.7 man years.
That goes into that million dollars the way it is.
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We're going to talk about that in a minute here after we go to commercials.
I had a medical procedure today here with, you know, I had a medical procedure here today.
It is specifically, I had a colonoscopy and no, everything turned out okay.
I didn't have any symptoms or anything.
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The doctor just sort of to go up and take a look because there was some concerns, family
history, that sort of thing.
I want to stress it to you how important it is to go for a colonoscopy.
Very, very, very important here.
We use some being, well, why are you talking about it?
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Why?
I've known two people who have died from colon cancer in my life.
One I knew, the other one was one of my friends, his mother.
It's a very, what my experience is, again, I'm not giving medical advice or making any
recommendations.
You need to go to your own doctor for that and your own, and you know, who knows your
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medical history, you got to, you know, seek out why is cancel on this.
The cases that I've heard of colon cancer, either I've read or I know or things like
that, and it's been, basically, you don't know you haven't until it's like stage three
or stage four.
It's relatively asymptomatic.
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So it's important, because I have a family history of not colon cancer and other colon
issues, so it's unlike the five-year program, but usually it's between five and 10 years
to go through the, you go through the check on the screen.
The first time I went was during COVID, the height of COVID, and you know, I don't, I
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don't believe around when it comes to this, when it comes to this kind of stuff.
I was delayed by a year, because I'm all the COVID craziness, right, and I had mine
in, I believe it was 2021.
So I had it four years ago, but I had it, but there was issues coming up, so now I'm
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not going to discuss that there, that they felt I needed to go again.
So but anyway, the doctor comes down and says, hey, Jimmy, I got it.
First, I woke up in the middle of the procedure.
That didn't happen today.
At least they said it happened.
They knocked me back out.
I don't want to be out for nothing right now.
You knocked me out for the, I'm out.
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All right.
I mean, you know, it was bizarre.
I'm talking to the doctor and I'm watching this up, you know, watching your colon up
on the camera and everything is pretty cool because I'm into, I watch stuff like that.
But you know, but anyway, he says to me, Mr. Poulsel, let me be very, very frank with
you.
Thank God you came in now for this.
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Is it really?
He said, yeah, we took off a number of polyps here and I forget what the number was.
He said, and one of them was huge, huge, you know, it was like, it was like one, you know,
it was like a two centimeters, two and a half centimeters.
I'm really not supposed to take off anything more than that.
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Anything larger than that.
But I, and it was right at the limit.
I thought I could do it.
I got it done.
He said, had you waited another year, we would have a significantly different outcome.
And this would have been a significantly different conversation we're having.
So he says, he says, I realize COVID and delay and everything, but don't screw around with
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this.
You know, you gotta, you know, you gotta keep on top of this.
So thankfully then everything worked out.
I imagine everything will work out this time.
They sent everything out for a biopsy, but do not screw around.
If you need a colonoscopy, go and get it.
Any of these medical testing.
So what is a colonoscopy?
So basically they, it was like if you're a Star Trek fan, LeBorg with a probe and it
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has like a probe on it and with all different types of instruments on the end.
So along tech, along, right.
So basically along flexible tube is inserted into the rectum and tiny video camera at the
tip of the tube, last not to review the inside of the entire colon.
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And you get pictures at the end of it too.
They're pretty cool pictures.
If necessary problems or other types of abnormal tissue can be removed through the scope during
the colonoscopy.
Tissue samples biopsy can be taken during a colonoscopy as well.
And what do they do for?
Investigate internal intestinal signs and symptoms.
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So abdominal pain, rectal bleeding, chronic diarrhea, and other intestinal problems.
Scream for colon cancer.
Right.
Look up for war problems or treat an issue of some sort.
That's basically it.
And what I hear and it's absolute baloney as far as I'm concerned.
Absolute and complete baloney.
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Oh, I don't want to go for the colonoscopy because of the prep.
The prep is horrible.
That stuff is horrible tasting.
Jim, you wouldn't believe how horrible.
This is all I hear.
Really?
Okay.
Is it like the best thing I've tasted?
No, but it's similar to like some of the sports drinks that people drink.
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I mean, you know, let's be honest, you know, and I mean, I drink, you know, you used to
what I drink here on the air.
It's a brand of soda that has stevia in it.
So it's a little bit different.
I like it.
Well, some people don't like it.
And when I said to the doctor, you know, we were commenting, hey, Mr. Puzzle, how did
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you do on colon prep?
Thumbs up.
No problem.
I'm telling you, everybody complains about that drink that they give you.
I said, if you throw a little bit of alcohol in it, and we could probably sell that as
a new sports drink at a bar and it would have a dual purpose.
He says, well, Jimmy, what do you mean dual purpose?
The one purpose, the dual purposes that you would have, you'd be able to make money off
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it.
But the other thing is, it's a prophylactic.
He says, why would you be a prophylactic?
You're not doing anything else running to the bathroom.
And ha ha ha.
You got a really good laugh out of it.
So, you know, that doesn't taste bad at all.
I mean, that's, yeah, could it taste better?
Maybe, maybe not.
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I don't know, but come on.
For the benefit that you're getting, it's really big, really good.
And that's all I'll say on that enough about my colon issues here.
So, but something to really kind of keep on top of, check with your doctor with that,
especially if you have a family history of that, and we're going to go to commercial
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Let's hear Jessica.
Osher Accordibles.
Catastrophic Losses.
Environmental Disasters.
You want answers?
So do I.
This is Jim Pozel with Safety Wars.
That's my daddy.
That's yes, I am your father.
So one of our, and I'll throw a little plug in there for him, he's been encouraging me
and on occasion gives me some comments when I run into him around town.
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Coach PR from Shady45.
He's local here in New City.
I run into him at sporting events around town.
Our kids are involved in sports.
He's been coaching me a little bit and he's like, Jim, you've got to offer this and offer
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that and offer that.
So we're going to be expanding that.
It's been tough here.
So season five, we're looking up for things, are looking up here and this week I'm going
to make an attempt to be here every day, even on Ash Wednesday.
So with this, now this came across and I'm a little bit disappointed here and I'm going
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to send this over to him here, some information.
So this was, and I can't play this because this is from another website here.
No, I don't have a licensing agreement with them, but I'll read off the portion here.
In an interview, Sean Teffey, the secretary of transportation has claimed that pilots
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should lose their license and they've had made an error that resulted in an incident
already circumventing the NTSV board by saying that some of the recent safety events involving
US airlines could be pinned on pilot error.
An exclusive interview with NBC Nightly News stuff, he was finding whether he still shares
the view which he expressed following the near miss at Chicago Midway International,
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MDW, that pilots should lose their license if they make a mistake.
He said, hell yes.
The near miss at Chicago Midway and going on there was a thing you could go and check
it out.
There's a video on it.
Now this is problematic, right?
Very very problematic.
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When you are doing an investigation, I don't care if it's airline, I don't care if it's
a fire, I don't care if it's this workplace injury, it doesn't matter.
What do you want to do?
Now, I mean after the desk clears, you respond to the accident, what do you want to do?
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You want to have an investigation.
And why are you having an investigation?
This is a question that we all have to ask as safety professionals, acts investigators,
anything like that.
You want information, correct?
You want information, and this is the disadvantage of not having safety professionals involved
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at some of these agencies here.
And if they are involved, we're not talking old school safety people.
You have to have, and especially the MTSV and FAA, a lot of this stuff is critical.
It's you're talking multiple lives, catastrophic losses.
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You want to try to prevent the next one.
I don't want to, okay, let's see what happened here.
Let's try to prevent the next one.
And as we know as safety professionals, everyone wants to get to that root cause.
They want to do that tap root, root cause, find the root cause.
Guess what root cause is our negotiable in most organizations?
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Hey, how are they manifest?
Hey, Jimmy, don't be so hard on that guy.
You know, he's like our best guy, he'll get the job done.
You know, oh, yeah, you know, no.
You know, I remember here, sound familiar?
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Or you know what, or you even think you're something, you know what, that guy frankly,
such a nice guy.
I don't want to be too hard on him.
So we're not, blah, blah, blah.
Or you know what, this guy Joe over here, you know, where'd you looking for an excuse
to get rid of him?
We have a file built up on him.
We need to get rid of him, blah, blah, blah.
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So let's make the root cause analysis go towards him.
And we're going to, or, you know, you have to show who's in charge.
Jim, you know, you have to show us who's in charge.
You have to find out, shame, blame and retrain.
Whereas someone at a refinery, right?
But you know, in central Jersey said, well, no, hey, there was an accident.
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We had to figure out what happened and we had to figure out who's the blame and blah,
blah, blah.
And guess what?
We're going to go and get that person.
And then you put everybody under fear.
Oh, we're all afraid to say anything.
And then, well, now we're going to fire you for lying because you weren't quite frank
with us.
And you just want to say to the person, you know, some choice words, we'll leave it at
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that, at that point.
And then you find out from the people in the hop industry, I won't mention who, that
oh, that guy, that guy, that organization, no, they had human or organizational performance
training, no, that's what they're doing is wrong and they're doing it anyway.
So now the question is, I work with these organizations, we do a little intro to hop
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course for them.
And then we do the accident investigation or the incident.
I don't even call it that as I call us.
I use a friend Sutton.
Well, what do you taught us?
You're in the other front learning teams, we're going to learn what happened.
Well, I don't need to learn.
I've done that job before.
When did you do that job?
Oh, I came up 25 years ago doing that job.
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Now I'm a plant manager, I'm a manager.
I know what the work is.
Guess what doesn't happen.
Not going to have, you don't know what goes on in that field.
You don't know what the context is.
Why?
Yes, human error.
Right.
So let's get back to the thing on hand.
Human error.
Well, okay.
When you know what happens when someone hands me a accident investigation that says human
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error.
Right.
Well, I'm usually in the role of working for a GC general contractor, environmental management
firm.
It doesn't matter what you call host employer.
What have you?
When I get an accident investigation back and it says, we can blame this on human error.
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I throw it back.
Why is it what, well, what are you going to do about it?
Human error.
How are you going to mitigate human error?
Because human error for this guy that you just fired.
How do I know this other guy?
Human error.
Why was there human error?
What happened here?
Was your job site set up safely?
Right.
Was it set up safely?
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Why was there human error?
We go into the Yens Rasmussen modes of work.
Was he in the lack of knowledge mode or in the knowledge mode?
Was he in the rules mode or was he in the skills mode?
Because I, oh, well, what do you mean?
Well, was the job set up right?
Was it set up so he could, so if there was a problem and you had multiple safeguards
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here, right, because safety is about capacity and resilience and safeguards and was it resilient?
Was the guy, was he able to fail safely here?
If something went wrong, are you relying on a single point failure?
Or what are you doing here?
You get out the hierarchy of controls, put up the hierarchy of controls.
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What are you relying on to prevent an injury here?
We're relying on administrative controls.
We're going to have to make a rule to do something.
Oh, really?
You look at the administrative controls, the hierarchy of controls, administration.
Isn't that like towards the bottom, meaning you're going to change a rule?
And isn't that like one of the most least reliable methods?
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Oh, well, we're going to, he wasn't wearing safety glasses.
Why wasn't wearing safety glasses?
Are you enforcing the rules?
Is he not wearing safety glasses because it seemed to make sense at the time for him
not to wear safety glasses?
Does he not have the training?
Does he not have the understanding?
Did he tell you to go bleep yourself?
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I'm not wearing safety glasses.
And if that's the case, why is that person still here?
Why did he tell you that?
If you're in the New York area, what do you think I do?
Well, what training do you have?
Oh, he's 30 hour trained.
Okay, can I see the card?
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That's not required for this job.
Well, you said he's 30 hours, so let's see the card.
And then you can get to talking to the employee.
No, and the employee says, oh, he just handed me the card.
I didn't go for any training.
Oh, oh.
But one of my favorite stories is a guy dropped a conveyor at a warehouse onto his foot.
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And I said, well, can I see your boots?
And he came in the next day.
Well, you had to go to urgent care.
Came in the next day with a cast on his foot.
Oh, come on, we're doing the axe investigation.
I said, okay, well, what did you drop on your foot?
Oh, I dropped this on my foot.
I said, don't know, it's like 20 pounds.
Okay, 20 pounds.
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Why are your toes smashed?
Why are you in a cast?
Oh, my toes are all broken.
Okay.
From that?
Yeah.
And I said, can I see your boots?
Oh, yeah, here they are.
I said, these are not safety toe shoes.
What's going on here?
I said, just your toes, according to the medical report.
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What's going on here?
Well, thank God I didn't have those steel toe boots on.
Okay.
Why is that?
I'm saying this in front of like me and I have my dude on the site and I have the client,
the main client, big company, their safety person on site.
I have this person on site.
I have that person on site.
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I have that person on site.
I'm like, okay.
Now they're putting me on the spot here.
I said, what are you talking about?
Hold on.
What are you talking about?
Well, if I had steel toe boots on, my toes would have all been amputated.
I was like, number one, that's not true.
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And who told you that?
Well, no, I said, they were supposed to go over this in your outreach class that you
just showed me the card on.
Well, my boss just gave me that outreach card.
Oh, okay.
I said, who told you your toes are being amputated?
Oh, all my coworkers.
I said to him, really?
I said, okay.
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Now we're going to go through our center thing.
We started going through the whole thing, how to do the acts investigation, how to do
this.
Okay.
And I have a very lengthy questionnaire for this to collect facts because working for
a general contractor, you have to go and there's a real possibility of being sued.
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And I get to this, well, how did you get to job?
That's always, how did you get to job?
Did you apply on paper?
In the news, not news, that's online.
Did you do this?
Did you do?
Oh, my dad works here.
I said, oh, who's your dad?
Oh, my dad is so and so.
Okay.
So your dad's like the project manager.
Yeah.
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And he's his dad.
I like this father, but he's one of those project managers.
No one likes.
He's very demanding, very, right.
And a lot of people don't like him or anything else.
So really?
I said, did it ever occur?
And we go through steel to boot the whole thing, right?
I sent him, did it ever occur to you that, you know, what do you know?
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I said, let me back up here.
I said, what do people think about your father?
They said, they hate his guts.
They hate his god.
Nobody likes me.
You know, he's very strict, you know, very, very, you know, he was this, yeah, this experience.
I said, okay.
So I said, did it ever occur to you that maybe they're giving you bad safety information
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in the hopes that you're going to get hurt so you're not your father's eyes and ears
in the field?
Do you think that anybody would do that?
Oh, no, they wouldn't do that.
I said, well, they just gave you bad information on steel toe boots.
So let me let me guess what story it was.
He said, they probably explained it this way because it's always the same story they had
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before a variation there.
They had a father, grandfather, great grandfather, great uncle or some other authority figure
in their family that worked either on a shipyard and there was a longshoreman working on skid
row or something similar in the Pacific Northwest logging or something like this.
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And he was a huge load, right, maybe three, four tons, maybe more was he got underneath
it somehow.
And just as he was getting underneath it, the rigging let loose and this thing fell
and it had to be from at least 50 or 60 foot up in the air.
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This thing fell and landed on his toes and if it weren't for that steel toe, he would
have been he would still have his foot today is those today.
Does that sound familiar?
The guys look at it and he says, yeah, that's pretty much the story was, you know, in his
case, there was something else.
I said, okay, and everybody here around the table is laughing at this point.
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I said, we've all heard that story, right?
Everybody, we've all heard that story.
I said, first of all, you got to be careful about putting your feet in the line of fire,
number one.
Number two, you had a forklift.
You had a you were carrying this by hand and it was an awkward lift.
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You had a forklift available for you to do this.
And was this are you like, and I had the supervisor there to see his supervisor said, are you
behind schedule?
Are you in a rush?
I said, everybody always wants to be had a schedule.
I can't but are you behind schedule?
Is there a schedule thing here?
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So no, I said, okay.
And he's 18 years old, who was working with the major and he's not even in the industry
like a month, month and a half.
Who do you have him working with?
There's like a, oh, I have him working with the, no, whatever the guy Joe, I have worked
with Joe.
I said, isn't Joe like 19 years old and he's 18 years old?
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And Joe is like new to the industry.
He says, yeah.
And, you know, it goes on and on and on.
What's the point here?
No, this is, what's the point?
I'm not here to shame and blame.
There's a lot going on here.
So now when I get put all of the things together and you want to assign blame, was it these
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two gentlemen to blame?
What was 19?
What was 18?
What was in the industry?
The year, year and a half.
The other one was in the industry like a month and a half.
Or it was a their fault.
They see other people there walking around doing things.
Hey, and they're in the knowledge mode, right?
With that.
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So same thing with these pilots here, these air traffic controllers.
You got a lot of things going on here for there to be a near miss.
Like was in this case that Sean, a secretary Duffy was talking about.
There's a lot going on.
There's got to be a, no, the fact that there was a near miss and not an accident is a miracle.
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I'd be interested is how that belief was this not an accident.
And thank God we have enough resilience and capacity in the system that we didn't have
an issue.
Let's look on the positive side here.
We have an issue, but it's not, you know, we didn't have any fatalities here.
So let's try to find out what happened.
And if you're going to come down all adversarial on people, because I tell you what, I, if
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even if I was a pilot, I would be less inclined to, I would be less inclined to actually share
an information with this guy or with our cooperate with the investigators.
I'm telling you right off the, if this is the attitude of people here with this, why
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would I cooperate on anything?
Was it, I mean, perhaps it was an air traffic control issue too much going on, not enough
people.
We've heard that over the last two months.
You're not enough people there to do the work.
Maybe it was a software issue.
You're going to blame that on the person, software issue.
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You're going to blame this.
You have, you're flying a plane.
You got 20 things, 30 things going on at one time.
Maybe you have been an experienced pilot, may have been an equipment malfunction.
It might have been a lot of things.
The other thing is this, why do you have, when you're driving, why do you have insurance?
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Why, why, well, the law says you got to have insurance here, but I can, I can control what
I do and my reactions.
Generally speaking, no things might happen.
Here runs out on the road, we had a guy over here driving along about three or four years
ago, he's just driving along on the Palisades Parkway and a tree falls out of nowhere, comes
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out of nowhere, falls and falls on the car, killing him.
Right?
You can't control those things.
Right?
You have insurance because you're insuring the other, what someone else might do to you.
You don't have control over what the other driver does at all.
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Right?
So there's a lot that goes on going on.
What do we have back here?
You have our Jenga pile.
And you're taking out the bottom wreck.
I might just keep this up until we have a problem here.
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That'll be the Jim's Jenga pile.
We're taking out a bottom brick here.
We're moving on up to the top.
Right?
It didn't collapse.
When that collapses, here's the blame.
Well, I'm the only one playing.
But if you're with a group of people, that's how accidents happen.
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What goes on prior to that going up?
Right?
Just the way it is with that.
So again, we're going to tag this.
I'm going to make a video out of this section here.
I'm going to send it on over to the president and everything else.
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I'm going to be tagging because I tell you what, they're all reading this stuff.
And someone on their staff is, that's for damn sure.
I don't know who it is, by the way.
I have a pretty good idea with that.
So we're going to go to our next commercial break.
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I lost the website here.
Hang on.
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Okay, so, uh, here I had this here and I cannot find it now.
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Uh, no, no, no.
So, unless we're going to do it around this here, right?
So Elon Musk, getting a lot, and again, this is not, uh, this is not, uh, in support of
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what he says or anything, but like I said, we're talking about fact here, right?
So he called Social Security a Ponzi scheme.
What is a Ponzi scheme?
This is a common definition.
A Ponzi scheme is an investment scam that pays early investors with money taken from
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later investors to create an illusion of big profits.
A Ponzi scheme promises a high rate of return with little risk to the investor, relies on
word of mouth as new investors hear about the big returns earned by early investors.
Inevitably, the scheme collapses on the flow of no, of new money slows, making it impossible
to keep up with payments of alleged profits.
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A Ponzi scheme, uh, is similar, uh, to a pyramid scheme that is both, uh, that in that both
new investors funds to pay earlier in backers.
The pyramid scheme usually relies on rewarding early participants to recruit war participants
with collapses when the supply of potential participants dwindles.
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A Ponzi scheme relies on a grown stream of new investors.
So, uh, what is a, that's basically it.
So how does Social Security work on this?
All right.
Here we have a fact sheet, and this is off of the Social Security, let me share it since
(39:39):
I'm allowed to share that, a fact sheet on Social Security here.
So this is right from the website.
In 2025, an average of almost 69 million Americans per month will receive Social Security benefit
of totally about $1.6 trillion in benefits paid during the year.
(40:00):
Uh, so Social Security is a major source of income for most people over the age of 65.
Nearly nine out of 10 people aged 65 or lower were receiving Social Security benefits as
of December 31st of last year.
Social Security benefits represent 31% of the income of people over age 65.
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Among Social Security benefits are age 65 and older.
Again, that's scary.
That's only 11 years for me, right?
39% of men and 40% of women receive 50% or more their income from Social Security.
Uh, and, uh, this information is from research released in 2024 using 2015 data and click
(40:41):
on here for info.
Fire workers and their dependence accounted for 78% of total benefits.
So it goes on and on and on with that.
In 1940, life expectancy of a 65 year old was almost 14 years.
Uh, today is over 20 years.
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Number of Americans 65 and older will increase from about 61 million to 2023 to 77 million
by 2035.
So, oh, oh, demographics.
I thought, you know, people get pissed off when I discuss demographics on this show.
Right.
And the importance of this, right?
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In 2023, there were an estimate of 2.7 covered workers for each Social Security beneficiary
by 2035.
Trustee says there will be 2.4 covered workers for each beneficiary, meaning it's going to
be more and more expensive as we go along because our population demographics is going
(41:45):
to change with this.
Now I am here, uh, uh, fraud.
I lost the website here.
Uh, let me go and put something on here for you people on the air and we'll get back to
you.
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Hold on.
Because this is important here, right?
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We could cover any pain aware of.
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Heart had it real, yeah we comply Our love's as strong as reinforced supply
Our love's like gears, it turns so true Turbines of passion spinning with you
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Mechanical love is built to last Safety first, romance moving fast
Danger signs that we don't line We're safety certified, hearts aligned
Locked out, tagged out, hearts entwined You and me were one of a kind
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Work site romance, it's OSHA approved Love that's steady, never misused
Red tape barriers can't keep us apart Love evolves safety from the song
Danger signs that we don't line We're safety certified, hearts aligned
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Locked out, tagged out, hearts entwined You and me were one of a kind
Work site romance, it's OSHA approved Love that's steady, never misused
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Red tape barriers can't keep us apart Love evolves safety from the start
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The Zalana Albuquerque, New Mexico, a fusion of one and for over four decades on attempted first degree murder charges was apprehended in weed, New Mexico on February 19th following an investigation that undercovered its decades, law, long use of its use man's identity to evade authorities and fraudulently obtain government benefits
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Social Security employee heads to prison for creating fake children's profiles to steal public funds
That doesn't happen here, right? None of this crap happens, we're gonna go more
Let's go again. Kokomo woman ordered by federal court to repay over $200,000 in stolen retirement benefits from a deceased husband's account. Again, I'm told this doesn't happen, right? Here. With this.
(48:30):
Hart Van Mann emits fraudulently collecting Social Security unemployment and food stamps from last, this is just from last week, and it goes on, and it goes on, and it goes on, and it goes on, and it goes on, and on, and on
Here. Ozark Business Owner Sentence for Social Security Fraud and Perjury
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Uh, Rubble Up
Well, I was sentenced to two years and three months in federal prison without parole, right, and ordered to pay $42,000, and this is from an indoor sand facility, right, and everything. One account of Social Security fraud.
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The guy was indicted for Social Security fraud, who, and right, the guy who oversaw his disabled father's benefits from 26 and 2019 converted $42,369 as his father's benefits to his own use, having testified in his own defense on trial, the blah, blah, blah, charl going on, and on, and on, and on
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But nothing happens. This is just what, remember, this is only what they report on their website. We know that they do a lot more than that.
Now, let's go back to what we were saying. And we didn't finish until Ponzi scheme, right?
We had, and I can show you a report. So I'm going to tell you what, you go onto your Social Security website, but you have, right, and going back, I have it all the way back to like 1996, 1995 paperwork, and I got it now for my parents, and from another family member, paperwork.
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They weren't us back then that they're going to go broke. I think you're not going to be able to meet their obligations. And if you look at the progression from year to year to year to year, you, what do you find out?
You find out a couple of different things. One, and again, I'm not in, this is not an investment show. I'm not making any financial recommendations. You find out that as the years progress, the time that Social Security is going to be taking in less money than it pays out keeps moving closer and closer.
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Right. So time is progressing on one end. Now, on the other end, the deadline is right. So squeeze. So now reportedly, that's already happened already a couple years back.
So this is the Ponzi scheme. Nature of this. Now, one of the things with investing is that we know what's going on now. Right. But you don't know what's going on in when decisions are made.
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Right. Because a lot could go down things could go good things would go bad.
So when you look at it, at an overall, it all depends on how long you're going to live. It's that old demographic situation.
I know somebody who did not plan at all for retirement, all different kinds of shenanigans at and everything. Psychopath. That's funny and mildly.
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He said, I'm going to start collecting at 70. Right. Didn't plan anything else. The Social Security will help me along. He didn't report income for years. Number one.
Number two was on the demographic scene, all everybody in his family lived up into their 90s from the generation before except for like accident or somebody got Parkinson's because they got a head injury and that was attributed that eventually turned into Parkinson's.
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They blame that. Right. Other than that, everyone lived into their 90s.
So how old is he? He's almost 90 now. No money. Money ran out a long time ago. Money ran down before he signed over Social Security. He didn't even want to do that.
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You look at the amount of money you put into Social Security, it's X number of dollars and the money that you made, that you put into it, you'll get back in about two or three years max.
Absolute max, the last I checked. So that means everybody else has got to support you. Right. And again, that is a, that's where the Ponzi scheme at. Similar to Ponzi scheme. And I think that's what Elon Musk was saying.
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But I'm not defending him. I'm just trying to explain where this is coming from because you hear on social media, the clip, little clip. Oh, Ponzi scheme. This is not a Ponzi scheme. This is it.
He's bad. And then the right does the same thing. And I call the man on that. Well, this person's evil. They're all, you know, they did this.
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Okay, can we please get to the bottom of things and deal with factual information here?
No, and I hope I did that. And I know that's going to be what season five is about. It's going to be about safety. But let's face it, we have to know how to evaluate.
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We have to know how to evaluate the news that we hear. Is it true? Is it not true?
Do we, what do we check? What do we double check? Don't believe everything on social media? Because right now, there's a lot of people with who are very upset that Donald Trump is president.
And I have a lot of people who did not support President Trump. But the outlandish things that they are coming up with, that they're coming up with, they're like, wrong.
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Right. One of the people last week, businessmen do not pay businesses don't pay taxes.
Right. We have to tax them. Well, guess what you pay a lot of taxes as a business person.
Pailed awful lot. There's just talking one particular tax that may or that could be mitigated. But you're paying your employees. If you have employees, you're paying taxes.
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Not a tax guy, far from it. But again, people don't understand how money is made.
And they have, you know, we have financial literacy in this country that is now coming forth. And you know, you explain to the person, hey, no, that's not the way this is here with this.
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And just be careful who you listen to. Double check, check, double check, be careful what you put on social media, because it's may not be true all the time.
Now, we have a couple of minutes left here.
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Some other weird things, right? Man killed the Bar Harbor Carve her class while was hotel firms. Mr. Fix it.
It's out of Bar Harbor Maine. A Maine native killed Monday when a car for class at Bar Harbor hotel was a long term employee, long time employee of the company.
The person worked there for 40 years and came to be known as Mr. Fix it here.
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This is out of May, Maine, but his most recent recently was a resident of Boynton Beach, Florida, not far from the resort firms offices in Delray Beach.
And the person on Monday died when a car for a camping collapse collapse at a hotel which was closed for the winter.
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This actually almost happened to my brother, believe it or not. We had a rule growing up. No smoking in the house.
My brother was a smoker. He recently gave that up.
And he was sitting on the front porch and the snow load came on the front porch. It was a lumen morning.
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And he came in the house, went up there, serious to bed about two minutes later. My father and I were watching TV.
Guess what? The awning came down. Had it been where and the way it came down, had it had even sitting where he normally sits out there.
Probably would have cut him in half there. So freak accident here with that.
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But again, OSHA's investigating with that.
What are you going to do with that?
What you're going to do is you better train your employees on this stuff and have an experienced health and safety professional check things out.
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That's all I got here for today. I hope to be back tomorrow. We're going to edit this. I am recording the video portion and we will get back to you tomorrow.
So, for safety wars, this is Jim Poole's.
Tomorrow, we'll see. We'll see how it goes. Hi.
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