Melanoma and Skin Cancer Awareness Series - Part 14
Ever wondered how a simple concept like bioimpedance, used in smart scales, can be leveraged to detect something as serious as skin cancer? Step into our fascinating discussion with Vassiliy Zotov, the pioneering CEO of Artes Electronics, as he unveils the science behind the groundbreaking Nota Mole Tracker. This transformative device harnesses the power of bioimpedance to spot melanoma, potentially saving countless lives. With a concerning trend of skin cancer affecting younger demographics, our conversation highlights the pressing need for health education for children.
Dive deeper as Vassiliy shares the journey of Artes Electronics, from the cutting-edge world of science and technology. We'll navigate the evolution of the Nota Mole Tracker and other life-changing devices in development, including one for breast cancer detection. If you've ever been curious about the future of cancer technology, Vassiliy's insights and visions are not to be missed.
Join us in finding optimism in the progression of innovative technologies that offer hope in early cancer detection.
You can learn more about Nota at NotaMole.com
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Lorie Tesny (00:00):
Your health and well-being are the utmost
importance.
The ability to detect andmonitor cancer early is
essential.
In recent years, technology hasadvanced significantly, and one
such advancement is the use ofnon-invasive bioimpedance in
detecting melanoma.
So if you're curious to learnmore, keep listening.
(00:22):
Hello and welcome to SailingThrough Life.
I'm Lorie, your host and friend.
Join me as I shareconversations that give you hope
through the storms of life.
You'll find inspiration throughthe experiences of my guests,
as well as hearing my own crazy,wonderful adventure.
(00:44):
Create the life you desire bydiscovering new ways to focus on
your health and well-beingthrough modifying your habits
and improving your mindset.
Set sail with me on thisjourney to realize the strength
and resilience you have inside.
Let us show you how.
As you sail through life,welcome aboard.
(01:05):
Thank you for being a part ofthis special series dedicated to
melanoma and skin cancerawareness.
You few want to be a part ofthe crew and you feel like this
show provides value.
Consider contributing tosupport us so we can make a
(01:25):
difference in someone's life.
Visit SailingThroughLifePodcast.
com to learn more.
Imagine wielding the power oftechnology to detect one of the
deadliest skin cancers melanoma.
That's precisely what myesteemed guest Vassiliy Zotov,
the CEO of Artists Electronicsis accomplishing with the
(01:47):
revolutionary Nota Mole Tracker.
Vassiliy sheds light on thescience behind this breakthrough
device and offers a practicalguide on its usage.
This pioneering tool, which isbased on bioimpedance technology
, is similar to the technologyused in smart scales or
electronic devices that canmeasure more than just weight to
(02:08):
help provide a morecomprehensive picture of a
person's health.
This technology now helpsdetect problems with the skin,
potentially saving lives bycatching melanoma in its
earliest stages.
We'll address the soberingreality of skin cancer targeting
younger age groups andemphasize the importance of
(02:29):
health education, especially forchildren.
Today, I am thrilled to havethis special guest.
Please welcome, .
Thank you so much for sheddinglight on this technology.
Vassiliy Zotov (02:41):
Thank you for inviting me, Lorie.
I am all in your service.
Lorie Tesny (02:44):
Well, I appreciate.
Across the globe we'reconnected together to share
information about thisincredible little device and how
much has gone into it and whatthe potentials are for the
future, for what your passion isto save lives.
So I appreciate all you'redoing.
Vassiliy Zotov (03:03):
Thank you very much.
Actually, Nota is only one ofthe many devices we plan to do.
We're already in the finalstage of development with a
device for early breast \Sodetection.
So all of our devices based onthe same technology.
Lorie Tesny (03:22):
Incredible, incredible.
So I have to start with thebasics of what is the Nota Mole
Tracker.
Can you discuss how this wasdeveloped?
What was the inspiration tocreate this little device?
Vassiliy Zotov (03:36):
Yeah, we are all from a world of electronics, so
we are engineers, we aredevelopers of engineering
devices and once we met withvery interesting called .
This technology is very wellknown for about 70 years or even
(03:56):
more Technology that we'resending a very small amount of
electricity for body.
This electricity is absolutelysafe because these amounts are
the same that are staticelectricity in our body.
It is well known.
It is completely safe, even forpregnant women or people with
(04:19):
very heart diseases.
Example, in our melanoma devicefor tracking of melanoma, we
make about over 100 screens infew seconds and our device for
detecting of breast cancer, wedo in several seconds, always
(04:41):
64,000 measures.
Lorie Tesny (04:44):
Oh, wow.
Vassiliy Zotov (04:45):
And I talked to, this amount of measures for
doctor or personal use of ahuman.
It's impossible and it wasimpossible.
That's why this technology isusing the competition with
ultrasound and we combine thistechnology, this artificial
intelligence, a lot of measures.
(05:06):
It's a very good thing, thankyou.
Lorie Tesny (05:08):
I would imagine that there's a lot of research
that goes into creatingsomething like this, and what is
your background?
How did you become a part ofthis company and all the
technology?
What is your understanding ofall this?
Vassiliy Zotov (05:25):
We are developers of electronics.
We did concept engineering formany years and industrial design
, and so we had clients from thewhole world.
So not only design, but alsoproduce.
Also how to work with thefabrics, also how to work with
(05:45):
logistics it was not somethingnew for us, but we also wanted
to do something important.
We wanted to do something whichwill help people and we look
for the different technologiesand, first of all, we do not
make any breaking research.
(06:08):
We took very old technology andthis was our idea from the
beginning, and then we combinedthis technology.
We do not make some miracle.
We took something well knownbioimpedance and we took
something new, but also known astypical intelligence, to
(06:31):
analyze it, and we took ourcompetition to analyze a product
.
So we think that humanityproduced enough of good
technologies and idea, and it'stime to simply pack it in
devices and all new things.
(06:52):
They need years of checking,monitoring and so on.
Lorie Tesny (06:59):
I'm curious.
I'm sure most people don'tunderstand what bioimpedance is,
but how does that work?
What is that technology?
Vassiliy Zotov (07:10):
This is very easy.
Electricity passing throughcell.
Okay, the different withdifferent speed.
In normal cell it's one speed.
In cancerous or abnormal cell,the speed is different.
Lorie Tesny (07:25):
Okay.
Vassiliy Zotov (07:26):
And we simply check which speed we have and
compare it with normal.
So we make two things First ofall we put off our devices to
the normal scheme, make checking, then we put it to abnormal and
also make checking.
(07:46):
And then we compare thesestatistics and we see that in
normal scheme and in nervouselectricity pass like this one,
in melanoma, like this one andthis is complete physics.
It's not something new orsomething don't understandable.
(08:07):
Okay.
Now electricity pass through ourbody all the time, so we are
fully full of electricity andsignals.
Our signals are not bigger thanthe static electricity of human
body, so we cannot evenpotentially earth with purple.
Lorie Tesny (08:26):
Okay.
Vassiliy Zotov (08:27):
Because of this technology.
This technology havedisadvantage you cannot check
something very deep in the body,right, so we cannot look from
to your heart or stomach becausebefore heart we see a lot of
different things.
But things that are severalcentimeters deep or millimeters
(08:53):
we see correctly, especiallylike things like breast cancer
or melanoma.
Lorie Tesny (08:59):
Interesting yeah.
Vassiliy Zotov (09:01):
And that's why we then you know, especially
with melanoma, it's veryinteresting question with no one
we do not have now technologyhow to look deep in the skin.
They have only thedermatologists have only one
basic device for checking.
It's done after all, it'svisualization or even
(09:25):
applications for making ascreenshot, but we see several
millimeters deep.
Lorie Tesny (09:30):
That's interesting.
Vassiliy Zotov (09:32):
We can look several millimeters and find
something which just appear butstill not visible.
Lorie Tesny (09:40):
So I know that there's even specifics to using
it the right way, and can youspeak on how to use it and what
it's doing when you are using itFirst?
Vassiliy Zotov (09:52):
of all, you must prepare your skin.
Our skin protect itself withdifferent kind of fats.
Then we simply leave.
It would be salt or somethinglike that.
We must clear it.
So we must prepare it betterwith alcohol, because alcohol
destroying fats.
(10:12):
Now then we place it to thepart of the skin and we start
screening.
We are sending small amounts ofelectricity for your skin and
receiving a response.
So we have several electrodes,electricity from one past to
another and we see how it works.
Then we compare the results.
(10:34):
So we different persons have adifferent skin depending of age.
Debating of place we live,especially, for example, people
who live near the sea.
A lot of fault in the skin.
Okay, because a lot of fault inthe air.
So we compare the skin ofspecial person.
(10:54):
So you have normal skin withoutany artifacts.
We take this part and we take apart example of skin with ship,
any suspicious things.
Of course it is easy to saywhen to do Because we spent so
many years and we have quite abig team.
(11:15):
But globally, it is not miracle, it's complete physics and it's
very, very understandable.
Lorie Tesny (11:23):
Does it replace going to a regular dermatologist
?
Vassiliy Zotov (11:28):
No, absolutely no.
It is a very bad idea toreplace official medicine with
something new, and this is veryimportant to understand.
We do not replace doctor.
We may work with the doctormore effective, we can warn you
(11:50):
a little bit early with today'sdoctor and give you several
months of treatment, but wecannot replace doctor.
Never, and any of such gadgets,any telemedicine solution,
never replace a doctor and thisis very important to know.
Regularly visiting a doctor,doing what doctors saying, this
(12:16):
is only thing which can help you.
No shamans, no devices, no,something new.
Classical medicine is a base ofeverything, but such devices
like us, like we do, they makeclassical medicine more
effective.
Little more.
(12:36):
But in a case of your life, youwould better have this little
more than don't have it.
Lorie Tesny (12:44):
The impact of having this, this instrument,
this device to help you reducegetting into a higher stage
cancer, because you aredetecting it earlier and we know
there's an issue with gettinginto a doctor, sometimes quickly
, and so if you have somepreconceived notion that there's
(13:04):
something that's not right,that gives you more time to get
in to see that doctor to get ittaken care of sooner, before it
becomes a higher stage cancer.
That then involves all sorts ofother medical interventions,
such as surgery and treatment,and also, you must remember
about internal cancer.
Vassiliy Zotov (13:26):
This is a very important thing because you can
visit doctor one time per year.
It's impossible to visit doctorevery month, but with such
devices, which appear now in adifferent fields, in very few
time we will be able to detectappearance of something wrong in
(13:46):
our body much earlier and veryearly stage.
And in early stage it'scompletely different with middle
or even late stage.
Lorie Tesny (13:56):
When that tracking happens, when you're taking that
initial photograph andmeasurement and scanning as you
progress.
If something looks healthy nowand down the road you notice
something changing, you'repaying attention to it more,
which is the one thing I didlike about this device is that
you are paying attention towhat's going on with your body,
(14:18):
which is really important onstaying on top of this,
especially if you've beendiagnosed previously and now
it's an ongoing situation.
So what happens with all theseimages and the measurements?
How does that stay secure andhow do you use that information?
Vassiliy Zotov (14:37):
First, of all we do not use photographs.
It is for holder of the deviceBecause we do not connect them
somehow.
It is for person to better knowthe mole map of his body and
also, if he have doubts of thismole he can track, is it growing
(15:02):
on nodes?
But we do not use photographsanyway in our work.
Lorie Tesny (15:09):
So it's for the user only to reference, as if
anything changes.
Vassiliy Zotov (15:14):
Yes, it's for user only.
Yes, yes, yes, we do notconnect with the photos, if only
for person.
And the result of our devices,of our measures, this is only
just of all that they areholding on our physical server,
(15:34):
and even we do not know for whomit is below Gotcha, it's in
case of person come from that heis ready to share it with us,
then we can use it Then we askperson do he receive any
feedback from a doctor?
Then he's sending this feedback.
(15:55):
We can look for feedback, thisfeedback and our checking, and
compare it and make ourartificial intelligence work
more correctly.
Right, also, for now, until wewill get a certificate as a
medical device, we do not giveany conclusion.
Lorie Tesny (16:20):
No advice right.
Vassiliy Zotov (16:23):
For us.
We can see the differencebetween, for example, melanoma
and basaleoma or something likethat.
We see that, but we cannot tellit to the person.
Now we prepare for investmentround.
We will get it, we will finishour clinical research, we will
(16:43):
get everything which is neededfor giving a medical, and only
after that we will be able totell we see this or we see that.
Now we can tell only one thingwe see something suspicious,
please visit doctor Right.
(17:04):
Or we do not see somethingsuspicious, but visit doctor
regularly.
Lorie Tesny (17:11):
And I like that.
Not only do you have thisdevice that you're offering,
it's all inclusive with the wayyou've set up the website, too,
and you're educating peopleabout not only how to use the
device and what it does, butyou're also educating them on
what skin cancer is and whatmelanoma is and supporting them
(17:35):
in all areas.
So it's not just use this andsee your doctor.
You're educating people, whichis so important because not
everybody understands howserious this diagnosis is.
Vassiliy Zotov (17:49):
Yes, I think we still do not understand how
vulnerable is our life andbecause of this we do not pay
attention for it, we do not haveresponsibility for it.
We're giving thisresponsibility for someone else,
for doctor, for some way ofluck or unlucky, we are giving
(18:15):
it to outsource.
And for us it's very importantto understand that our body,
it's not only a gift, it's verybig responsibility.
We must care about our body, wemust care about how it works,
we must care about how toprotect it, and only with
(18:37):
changing of mentality of societyglobally we will win in battle
with many, many little diseases.
Lorie Tesny (18:47):
Yes, and I agree that it's so important to value
yourself and understand that youare the ultimate person in
charge of what happens to you,and so your knowledge is power
and learning about yourself andunderstanding things that are
changing.
And when you see something, getit addressed and if you need
(19:09):
support, find people whounderstand what you're dealing
with and you even have warriorstories and people that can be
connected to through a chat ofyou know just as somebody who's
gone through it and theirexperience and not giving
medical advice, but just beingthere as a support, a community
that understands.
Vassiliy Zotov (19:29):
Yes, and you know, the most painful thing in
our work is to see the death ofyoung people.
Lorie Tesny (19:36):
Yes.
Vassiliy Zotov (19:37):
Right.
Cancer became younger andyounger.
That many people do notunderstand that it would appear
in 20 years or even earlier,easily Right.
And you must not only educateyour children about how to work
or how to play or how to dosomething fun.
(19:59):
You must prepare your childrenfor the life in this way too to
check your body, to understandyour body, to work with your
body.
We sometimes much more careabout our car than about our
body.
Lorie Tesny (20:16):
Yeah, there are people who do that.
Vassiliy Zotov (20:19):
Yes, yes, I know such so many people like that.
Lorie Tesny (20:25):
Yeah, you don't want to take it for granted, and
I think it's.
Maybe it's the ignorance youjust.
If it's not something you'repaying attention to, it won't
happen to you.
But we all know that that's nottrue.
And so, yes, teaching yourchildren at a very young age to
understand things and to callthings out and not to be
(20:46):
hypersensitive to what's goingon.
Yes, yes, yes, but just to payattention and learn, and
learning this from an early agemakes it a normal thing.
It's not something special ifit starts from the beginning,
and a lot of us are playingcatch-up with this diagnosis,
with how to do all this stuff,because we grew up in a
(21:07):
different time where we didn'thave the knowledge, we didn't
have the education or theunderstanding of what we were
dealing with.
Vassiliy Zotov (21:16):
Yes, sure, and it's our third, many time.
Such point of view.
Don't make paranoics frompeople, or especially from
children, and in that case I'msaying you teach your children
how to correctly pass the streetthe red light it's top green
light go and this.
(21:37):
Not make them paranoid.
Simply things about care aboutyour body, and this is normal.
This not normal is to thinkthat you are lucky or do not,
thinking about something badhappened with me.
You must have criticalmentality and clear thinking
(22:00):
about what's happening aroundyou and especially inside you.
Lorie Tesny (22:06):
So I'm curious what your background is before you
got into this known amulettracker and some of the other
devices you're working with withthe electronics.
What is your background in whatyou've done in your life?
Vassiliy Zotov (22:20):
Oh, I spend a lot of time in banking sphere,
in investment fields, but thenI'm a little bit tight and I had
very bad genetics in that way.
My grandfather was lastpresident of academia of science
of USSR.
(22:41):
So I think I had some geneticproblems which did not give me
quite and safe life as a bankerand bring me to some kind of
science again.
Lorie Tesny (23:00):
No matter how far you got away from it, you got
back into it.
Vassiliy Zotov (23:03):
Yes.
Lorie Tesny (23:06):
How have you seen things change since the initial
device came out to current day?
What has changed and what doyou see in the future?
Vassiliy Zotov (23:17):
In the future.
It's very easy to say.
I think a lot of teams in theworld do something similar with
us in different field.
We do not know for what we'redoing with us, so deep as we
were.
Okay.
And in such way.
But a lot of differenttechnologies go and in next 10
(23:37):
years this technology will go tonext stage.
The process of globalizationwill go, the technologies will
be combined with each other andthen we will see some portable
tracking system for all themelanoma or breast cancer or
(24:00):
something else, but for very bigamount of little diseases,
which will give the personpossibility to track it early
and it gives advantage todoctors because doctors will be
able to check themselves.
(24:20):
Thank you, I did not see I seevery many doctors past years and
I never see a doctor who willtell I do not need anything else
.
Doctors always need somethingnew and especially something
which is look from the differentway, technologically different,
(24:42):
because what you can see withX-ray you possibly cannot see
with ultrasound, but what yousee with ultrasound you can
possibly cannot see with X-ray.
And as for doctors, it is veryimportant to have as much way of
monitoring as it is possible.
(25:03):
Almost every week we receive aninformation.
I do not like to say that wesave in life, but every week.
But sometimes it also happens.
Yes.
But we may person fight of ahuman with such terrible disease
easier and giving him a littlemore chances for success, and in
(25:30):
case of such thing all chancesare very big.
Lorie Tesny (25:35):
We're very appreciative to you and your
team for all the work you've putinto this, and what the future
holds, and all the understandingof this technology is
incredible.
So thank you, vasily, foreverything you guys are doing,
because it does make adifference and it does help
people understand what's goingon better and it helps, like you
(25:57):
said, it helps the doctors tounderstand better to how to help
their patients.
So thank you so much.
Vassiliy Zotov (26:03):
Thank you very much to you, Lorie.
I would like to tell that alldevices, all technologies,
everything like these areuseless if there is no people
such you, who give peopleinformation here, who think
about them, help them.
(26:24):
Without these, all technologiesare useless.
So thank you very much for yourjob and for the possibility of
talking with you and introducingour guys.
Lorie Tesny (26:36):
Thank you, Vassiliy .
Thank you, I appreciate yourtime today.
Thank you.
Vassiliy Zotov (26:41):
Thank you very much.
Lorie Tesny (26:44):
Technology has made significant advancements in
recent years, particularly inthe detection of skin cancer,
developing the groundbreakingNOTA MOLE TRACKER, which
utilizes the bioimpedancetechnology to identify potential
skin issues and aid in thedetection of melanoma in its
earliest stages.
This conversation surroundingcancer technology went beyond
(27:08):
just the development of thisinnovative device.
We also discussed thesupportive role of the community
in our health journey, with theadditional information
available on their website tosupport those facing melanoma
and educating others to knowwhat to look for to stay ahead
of this diagnosis througheducation and connection.
(27:28):
This is an exciting future,envisioning a world where
devices like the NOTA MOLETRACKER arm doctors with vital
data to monitor an array ofdiseases.
I appreciate the invaluablework of pioneers like Vassiliy,
transforming lives one device ata time.
You can learn more about NOTA atnotamole.
(27:50):
com.
I'll be sure to include thelink in the episode description.
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It's time to make every choicecount.
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experience, or if you know anorganization to help even just
one person, just hop over to thewebsite and you can connect
(28:11):
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Chat with you next time.
Your health and well-being are the utmost
importance.
The ability to detect andmonitor cancer early is
essential.
In recent years, technology hasadvanced significantly, and one
such advancement is the use ofnon-invasive bioimpedance in
detecting melanoma.
So if you're curious to learnmore, keep listening.
(00:22):
Hello and welcome to SailingThrough Life.
I'm Lorie, your host and friend.
Join me as I shareconversations that give you hope
through the storms of life.
You'll find inspiration throughthe experiences of my guests,
as well as hearing my own crazy,wonderful adventure.
(00:44):
Create the life you desire bydiscovering new ways to focus on
your health and well-beingthrough modifying your habits
and improving your mindset.
Set sail with me on thisjourney to realize the strength
and resilience you have inside.
Let us show you how.
As you sail through life,welcome aboard.
(01:05):
Thank you for being a part ofthis special series dedicated to
melanoma and skin cancerawareness.
You few want to be a part ofthe crew and you feel like this
show provides value.
Consider contributing tosupport us so we can make a
(01:25):
difference in someone's life.
Visit SailingThroughLifePodcast.
com to learn more.
Imagine wielding the power oftechnology to detect one of the
deadliest skin cancers melanoma.
That's precisely what myesteemed guest Vassiliy Zotov,
the CEO of Artists Electronicsis accomplishing with the
(01:47):
revolutionary Nota Mole Tracker.
Vassiliy sheds light on thescience behind this breakthrough
device and offers a practicalguide on its usage.
This pioneering tool, which isbased on bioimpedance technology
, is similar to the technologyused in smart scales or
electronic devices that canmeasure more than just weight to
(02:08):
help provide a morecomprehensive picture of a
person's health.
This technology now helpsdetect problems with the skin,
potentially saving lives bycatching melanoma in its
earliest stages.
We'll address the soberingreality of skin cancer targeting
younger age groups andemphasize the importance of
(02:29):
health education, especially forchildren.
Today, I am thrilled to havethis special guest.
Please welcome, .
Thank you so much for sheddinglight on this technology.
Vassiliy Zotov (02:41):
Thank you for inviting me, Lorie.
I am all in your service.
Lorie Tesny (02:44):
Well, I appreciate.
Across the globe we'reconnected together to share
information about thisincredible little device and how
much has gone into it and whatthe potentials are for the
future, for what your passion isto save lives.
So I appreciate all you'redoing.
Vassiliy Zotov (03:03):
Thank you very much.
Actually, Nota is only one ofthe many devices we plan to do.
We're already in the finalstage of development with a
device for early breast \Sodetection.
So all of our devices based onthe same technology.
Lorie Tesny (03:22):
Incredible, incredible.
So I have to start with thebasics of what is the Nota Mole
Tracker.
Can you discuss how this wasdeveloped?
What was the inspiration tocreate this little device?
Vassiliy Zotov (03:36):
Yeah, we are all from a world of electronics, so
we are engineers, we aredevelopers of engineering
devices and once we met withvery interesting called .
This technology is very wellknown for about 70 years or even
(03:56):
more Technology that we'resending a very small amount of
electricity for body.
This electricity is absolutelysafe because these amounts are
the same that are staticelectricity in our body.
It is well known.
It is completely safe, even forpregnant women or people with
(04:19):
very heart diseases.
Example, in our melanoma devicefor tracking of melanoma, we
make about over 100 screens infew seconds and our device for
detecting of breast cancer, wedo in several seconds, always
(04:41):
64,000 measures.
Lorie Tesny (04:44):
Oh, wow.
Vassiliy Zotov (04:45):
And I talked to, this amount of measures for
doctor or personal use of ahuman.
It's impossible and it wasimpossible.
That's why this technology isusing the competition with
ultrasound and we combine thistechnology, this artificial
intelligence, a lot of measures.
(05:06):
It's a very good thing, thankyou.
Lorie Tesny (05:08):
I would imagine that there's a lot of research
that goes into creatingsomething like this, and what is
your background?
How did you become a part ofthis company and all the
technology?
What is your understanding ofall this?
Vassiliy Zotov (05:25):
We are developers of electronics.
We did concept engineering formany years and industrial design
, and so we had clients from thewhole world.
So not only design, but alsoproduce.
Also how to work with thefabrics, also how to work with
(05:45):
logistics it was not somethingnew for us, but we also wanted
to do something important.
We wanted to do something whichwill help people and we look
for the different technologiesand, first of all, we do not
make any breaking research.
(06:08):
We took very old technology andthis was our idea from the
beginning, and then we combinedthis technology.
We do not make some miracle.
We took something well knownbioimpedance and we took
something new, but also known astypical intelligence, to
(06:31):
analyze it, and we took ourcompetition to analyze a product
.
So we think that humanityproduced enough of good
technologies and idea, and it'stime to simply pack it in
devices and all new things.
(06:52):
They need years of checking,monitoring and so on.
Lorie Tesny (06:59):
I'm curious.
I'm sure most people don'tunderstand what bioimpedance is,
but how does that work?
What is that technology?
Vassiliy Zotov (07:10):
This is very easy.
Electricity passing throughcell.
Okay, the different withdifferent speed.
In normal cell it's one speed.
In cancerous or abnormal cell,the speed is different.
Lorie Tesny (07:25):
Okay.
Vassiliy Zotov (07:26):
And we simply check which speed we have and
compare it with normal.
So we make two things First ofall we put off our devices to
the normal scheme, make checking, then we put it to abnormal and
also make checking.
(07:46):
And then we compare thesestatistics and we see that in
normal scheme and in nervouselectricity pass like this one,
in melanoma, like this one andthis is complete physics.
It's not something new orsomething don't understandable.
(08:07):
Okay.
Now electricity pass through ourbody all the time, so we are
fully full of electricity andsignals.
Our signals are not bigger thanthe static electricity of human
body, so we cannot evenpotentially earth with purple.
Lorie Tesny (08:26):
Okay.
Vassiliy Zotov (08:27):
Because of this technology.
This technology havedisadvantage you cannot check
something very deep in the body,right, so we cannot look from
to your heart or stomach becausebefore heart we see a lot of
different things.
But things that are severalcentimeters deep or millimeters
(08:53):
we see correctly, especiallylike things like breast cancer
or melanoma.
Lorie Tesny (08:59):
Interesting yeah.
Vassiliy Zotov (09:01):
And that's why we then you know, especially
with melanoma, it's veryinteresting question with no one
we do not have now technologyhow to look deep in the skin.
They have only thedermatologists have only one
basic device for checking.
It's done after all, it'svisualization or even
(09:25):
applications for making ascreenshot, but we see several
millimeters deep.
Lorie Tesny (09:30):
That's interesting.
Vassiliy Zotov (09:32):
We can look several millimeters and find
something which just appear butstill not visible.
Lorie Tesny (09:40):
So I know that there's even specifics to using
it the right way, and can youspeak on how to use it and what
it's doing when you are using itFirst?
Vassiliy Zotov (09:52):
of all, you must prepare your skin.
Our skin protect itself withdifferent kind of fats.
Then we simply leave.
It would be salt or somethinglike that.
We must clear it.
So we must prepare it betterwith alcohol, because alcohol
destroying fats.
(10:12):
Now then we place it to thepart of the skin and we start
screening.
We are sending small amounts ofelectricity for your skin and
receiving a response.
So we have several electrodes,electricity from one past to
another and we see how it works.
Then we compare the results.
(10:34):
So we different persons have adifferent skin depending of age.
Debating of place we live,especially, for example, people
who live near the sea.
A lot of fault in the skin.
Okay, because a lot of fault inthe air.
So we compare the skin ofspecial person.
(10:54):
So you have normal skin withoutany artifacts.
We take this part and we take apart example of skin with ship,
any suspicious things.
Of course it is easy to saywhen to do Because we spent so
many years and we have quite abig team.
(11:15):
But globally, it is not miracle, it's complete physics and it's
very, very understandable.
Lorie Tesny (11:23):
Does it replace going to a regular dermatologist
?
Vassiliy Zotov (11:28):
No, absolutely no.
It is a very bad idea toreplace official medicine with
something new, and this is veryimportant to understand.
We do not replace doctor.
We may work with the doctormore effective, we can warn you
(11:50):
a little bit early with today'sdoctor and give you several
months of treatment, but wecannot replace doctor.
Never, and any of such gadgets,any telemedicine solution,
never replace a doctor and thisis very important to know.
Regularly visiting a doctor,doing what doctors saying, this
(12:16):
is only thing which can help you.
No shamans, no devices, no,something new.
Classical medicine is a base ofeverything, but such devices
like us, like we do, they makeclassical medicine more
effective.
Little more.
(12:36):
But in a case of your life, youwould better have this little
more than don't have it.
Lorie Tesny (12:44):
The impact of having this, this instrument,
this device to help you reducegetting into a higher stage
cancer, because you aredetecting it earlier and we know
there's an issue with gettinginto a doctor, sometimes quickly
, and so if you have somepreconceived notion that there's
(13:04):
something that's not right,that gives you more time to get
in to see that doctor to get ittaken care of sooner, before it
becomes a higher stage cancer.
That then involves all sorts ofother medical interventions,
such as surgery and treatment,and also, you must remember
about internal cancer.
Vassiliy Zotov (13:26):
This is a very important thing because you can
visit doctor one time per year.
It's impossible to visit doctorevery month, but with such
devices, which appear now in adifferent fields, in very few
time we will be able to detectappearance of something wrong in
(13:46):
our body much earlier and veryearly stage.
And in early stage it'scompletely different with middle
or even late stage.
Lorie Tesny (13:56):
When that tracking happens, when you're taking that
initial photograph andmeasurement and scanning as you
progress.
If something looks healthy nowand down the road you notice
something changing, you'repaying attention to it more,
which is the one thing I didlike about this device is that
you are paying attention towhat's going on with your body,
(14:18):
which is really important onstaying on top of this,
especially if you've beendiagnosed previously and now
it's an ongoing situation.
So what happens with all theseimages and the measurements?
How does that stay secure andhow do you use that information?
Vassiliy Zotov (14:37):
First, of all we do not use photographs.
It is for holder of the deviceBecause we do not connect them
somehow.
It is for person to better knowthe mole map of his body and
also, if he have doubts of thismole he can track, is it growing
(15:02):
on nodes?
But we do not use photographsanyway in our work.
Lorie Tesny (15:09):
So it's for the user only to reference, as if
anything changes.
Vassiliy Zotov (15:14):
Yes, it's for user only.
Yes, yes, yes, we do notconnect with the photos, if only
for person.
And the result of our devices,of our measures, this is only
just of all that they areholding on our physical server,
(15:34):
and even we do not know for whomit is below Gotcha, it's in
case of person come from that heis ready to share it with us,
then we can use it Then we askperson do he receive any
feedback from a doctor?
Then he's sending this feedback.
(15:55):
We can look for feedback, thisfeedback and our checking, and
compare it and make ourartificial intelligence work
more correctly.
Right, also, for now, until wewill get a certificate as a
medical device, we do not giveany conclusion.
Lorie Tesny (16:20):
No advice right.
Vassiliy Zotov (16:23):
For us.
We can see the differencebetween, for example, melanoma
and basaleoma or something likethat.
We see that, but we cannot tellit to the person.
Now we prepare for investmentround.
We will get it, we will finishour clinical research, we will
(16:43):
get everything which is neededfor giving a medical, and only
after that we will be able totell we see this or we see that.
Now we can tell only one thingwe see something suspicious,
please visit doctor Right.
(17:04):
Or we do not see somethingsuspicious, but visit doctor
regularly.
Lorie Tesny (17:11):
And I like that.
Not only do you have thisdevice that you're offering,
it's all inclusive with the wayyou've set up the website, too,
and you're educating peopleabout not only how to use the
device and what it does, butyou're also educating them on
what skin cancer is and whatmelanoma is and supporting them
(17:35):
in all areas.
So it's not just use this andsee your doctor.
You're educating people, whichis so important because not
everybody understands howserious this diagnosis is.
Vassiliy Zotov (17:49):
Yes, I think we still do not understand how
vulnerable is our life andbecause of this we do not pay
attention for it, we do not haveresponsibility for it.
We're giving thisresponsibility for someone else,
for doctor, for some way ofluck or unlucky, we are giving
(18:15):
it to outsource.
And for us it's very importantto understand that our body,
it's not only a gift, it's verybig responsibility.
We must care about our body, wemust care about how it works,
we must care about how toprotect it, and only with
(18:37):
changing of mentality of societyglobally we will win in battle
with many, many little diseases.
Lorie Tesny (18:47):
Yes, and I agree that it's so important to value
yourself and understand that youare the ultimate person in
charge of what happens to you,and so your knowledge is power
and learning about yourself andunderstanding things that are
changing.
And when you see something, getit addressed and if you need
(19:09):
support, find people whounderstand what you're dealing
with and you even have warriorstories and people that can be
connected to through a chat ofyou know just as somebody who's
gone through it and theirexperience and not giving
medical advice, but just beingthere as a support, a community
that understands.
Vassiliy Zotov (19:29):
Yes, and you know, the most painful thing in
our work is to see the death ofyoung people.
Lorie Tesny (19:36):
Yes.
Vassiliy Zotov (19:37):
Right.
Cancer became younger andyounger.
That many people do notunderstand that it would appear
in 20 years or even earlier,easily Right.
And you must not only educateyour children about how to work
or how to play or how to dosomething fun.
(19:59):
You must prepare your childrenfor the life in this way too to
check your body, to understandyour body, to work with your
body.
We sometimes much more careabout our car than about our
body.
Lorie Tesny (20:16):
Yeah, there are people who do that.
Vassiliy Zotov (20:19):
Yes, yes, I know such so many people like that.
Lorie Tesny (20:25):
Yeah, you don't want to take it for granted, and
I think it's.
Maybe it's the ignorance youjust.
If it's not something you'repaying attention to, it won't
happen to you.
But we all know that that's nottrue.
And so, yes, teaching yourchildren at a very young age to
understand things and to callthings out and not to be
(20:46):
hypersensitive to what's goingon.
Yes, yes, yes, but just to payattention and learn, and
learning this from an early agemakes it a normal thing.
It's not something special ifit starts from the beginning,
and a lot of us are playingcatch-up with this diagnosis,
with how to do all this stuff,because we grew up in a
(21:07):
different time where we didn'thave the knowledge, we didn't
have the education or theunderstanding of what we were
dealing with.
Vassiliy Zotov (21:16):
Yes, sure, and it's our third, many time.
Such point of view.
Don't make paranoics frompeople, or especially from
children, and in that case I'msaying you teach your children
how to correctly pass the streetthe red light it's top green
light go and this.
(21:37):
Not make them paranoid.
Simply things about care aboutyour body, and this is normal.
This not normal is to thinkthat you are lucky or do not,
thinking about something badhappened with me.
You must have criticalmentality and clear thinking
(22:00):
about what's happening aroundyou and especially inside you.
Lorie Tesny (22:06):
So I'm curious what your background is before you
got into this known amulettracker and some of the other
devices you're working with withthe electronics.
What is your background in whatyou've done in your life?
Vassiliy Zotov (22:20):
Oh, I spend a lot of time in banking sphere,
in investment fields, but thenI'm a little bit tight and I had
very bad genetics in that way.
My grandfather was lastpresident of academia of science
of USSR.
(22:41):
So I think I had some geneticproblems which did not give me
quite and safe life as a bankerand bring me to some kind of
science again.
Lorie Tesny (23:00):
No matter how far you got away from it, you got
back into it.
Vassiliy Zotov (23:03):
Yes.
Lorie Tesny (23:06):
How have you seen things change since the initial
device came out to current day?
What has changed and what doyou see in the future?
Vassiliy Zotov (23:17):
In the future.
It's very easy to say.
I think a lot of teams in theworld do something similar with
us in different field.
We do not know for what we'redoing with us, so deep as we
were.
Okay.
And in such way.
But a lot of differenttechnologies go and in next 10
(23:37):
years this technology will go tonext stage.
The process of globalizationwill go, the technologies will
be combined with each other andthen we will see some portable
tracking system for all themelanoma or breast cancer or
(24:00):
something else, but for very bigamount of little diseases,
which will give the personpossibility to track it early
and it gives advantage todoctors because doctors will be
able to check themselves.
(24:20):
Thank you, I did not see I seevery many doctors past years and
I never see a doctor who willtell I do not need anything else
.
Doctors always need somethingnew and especially something
which is look from the differentway, technologically different,
(24:42):
because what you can see withX-ray you possibly cannot see
with ultrasound, but what yousee with ultrasound you can
possibly cannot see with X-ray.
And as for doctors, it is veryimportant to have as much way of
monitoring as it is possible.
(25:03):
Almost every week we receive aninformation.
I do not like to say that wesave in life, but every week.
But sometimes it also happens.
Yes.
But we may person fight of ahuman with such terrible disease
easier and giving him a littlemore chances for success, and in
(25:30):
case of such thing all chancesare very big.
Lorie Tesny (25:35):
We're very appreciative to you and your
team for all the work you've putinto this, and what the future
holds, and all the understandingof this technology is
incredible.
So thank you, vasily, foreverything you guys are doing,
because it does make adifference and it does help
people understand what's goingon better and it helps, like you
(25:57):
said, it helps the doctors tounderstand better to how to help
their patients.
So thank you so much.
Vassiliy Zotov (26:03):
Thank you very much to you, Lorie.
I would like to tell that alldevices, all technologies,
everything like these areuseless if there is no people
such you, who give peopleinformation here, who think
about them, help them.
(26:24):
Without these, all technologiesare useless.
So thank you very much for yourjob and for the possibility of
talking with you and introducingour guys.
Lorie Tesny (26:36):
Thank you, Vassiliy .
Thank you, I appreciate yourtime today.
Thank you.
Vassiliy Zotov (26:41):
Thank you very much.
Lorie Tesny (26:44):
Technology has made significant advancements in
recent years, particularly inthe detection of skin cancer,
developing the groundbreakingNOTA MOLE TRACKER, which
utilizes the bioimpedancetechnology to identify potential
skin issues and aid in thedetection of melanoma in its
earliest stages.
This conversation surroundingcancer technology went beyond
(27:08):
just the development of thisinnovative device.
We also discussed thesupportive role of the community
in our health journey, with theadditional information
available on their website tosupport those facing melanoma
and educating others to knowwhat to look for to stay ahead
of this diagnosis througheducation and connection.
(27:28):
This is an exciting future,envisioning a world where
devices like the NOTA MOLETRACKER arm doctors with vital
data to monitor an array ofdiseases.
I appreciate the invaluablework of pioneers like Vassiliy,
transforming lives one device ata time.
You can learn more about NOTA atnotamole.
(27:50):
com.
I'll be sure to include thelink in the episode description.
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It's time to make every choicecount.
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