April 2, 2025 • 43 mins
Juliette of sailing vessel Spica shares her journey from sailing novice to confident sailor, now planning an ambitious voyage from Florida to Nova Scotia, Greenland, and ultimately Norway.
• First hooked on sailing after a four-day course in Annapolis on an Island Packet 32
• Purchased an Island Packet 35 after meeting owners who had lived aboard for 11 years in the Keys
• Initially terrified during first solo sailing experience but now feels completely at home
• Currently docked at Fort Pierce, Florida after living at anchor for a year
• Balances life as a sailing nomad with running her life coaching business remotely via Starlink
• Plans to sail up the East Coast to Norway, connecting with her genealogical heritage
• Learned boat maintenance through necessity and YouTube tutorials
• Travels with her dog Bronson, who has adapted from non-swimmer to "full water dog"
• Values the supportive sailing community that has helped her along the journey
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Oct 2020 to Present - 1998 Island Packet 320;
Nov 2015-Oct 2020; 1988 Island Packet 27
Feb-Oct 2015 - 1982 Catalina 25
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Capn Tinsley (00:00):
What stirs the soul, to cast the lines, hoist
the sails and leave comfort ofshore behind.
Tonight we meet Juliette ofsailing vessel Spica, who sails
an Island Packet 35 out of NewSmyrna Beach, florida, with her
loyal four-legged crew and a mixof solo sailing and sailing
with a crew.
Juliette has some excitingsailing plans on the horizon and
(00:22):
, while the details are stillcoming together, her course is
clearly set for adventure.
Has some exciting sailing planson the horizon and, while the
details are still comingtogether, her course is clearly
set for adventure.
She is also a life coach,blending mindset, purpose and
passion for the sailinglifestyle.
In this episode we'll find outwhat first got her into sailing
and how it's evolved over time,and how she's preparing for
whatever comes next, but firstfor whatever comes next.
(00:46):
But first.
Quick favor, hit like,subscribe and share this video
and don't be shy.
Drop your comments in the livechat on YouTube or Facebook so
Juliet can reply in real time.
I'm Captain Tinsley of SaltyAbandoned, an Island Packet 320
sailboat, and this is the SaltyPodcast, episode 56 juliette,
welcome to the podcast, thankyou, hello thank you, it's nice
(01:11):
to be here.
Thank you for coming on.
It's a pleasure to meet you anduh, all right, so I do have a
first question.
Here we go.
How did we start at thebeginning?
How did you first get intosailing?
What was there a moment thathooked you?
Juliet SV Spica (01:34):
Absolutely, it's a little bit of a backstory
.
Capn Tinsley (01:39):
One of my girlfriends and I were sitting
there.
Juliet SV Spica (01:42):
We were talking on the phone and we were
talking about starting a channeland we were talking about just
fishing.
And then I went home and spoketo my husband and we were empty
nesters and we kind of were wedidn't use half the house and we
were kind of having thatrealization and we both are
pretty adventurous and we likedoing things.
(02:02):
So we decided to go up toAnnapolis and do the school,
where they allowed you to stayon the boat for four days and
yeah, it's an island packet, andso during that time we were
looking at like Beneteau's, um,the Cape Dory and the island
(02:23):
packet those were the three likegreat brands that we were
considering.
But once we did the school Iwas hooked 100% hooked.
Capn Tinsley (02:33):
I was all in.
Juliet SV Spica (02:34):
I wanted to definitely live on a sailboat.
Capn Tinsley (02:37):
That's interesting .
So is that ASA 104 class.
Juliet SV Spica (02:42):
Yep.
Capn Tinsley (02:43):
Yes, I took that class too, and you were on an
Island Packet for the class.
Yeah, yes, I took that classtoo, and you were on an island
packet for the class.
Yeah, I was 32.
Okay, all right, so, and so mynext question is about your
island packet 35.
What made you choose thatparticular boat?
Juliet SV Spica (03:01):
Well, it was a couple things.
The couple that I met felt verysimilar to me.
So for me, on routine I hadspent about a year looking for
vessels.
That was about that was goingto fit the needs and everything
that I wanted At the time.
I had two dogs, a GermanShepherd and a pit bull, and so
room was a factor for sure.
(03:23):
Sure, with two humans and twodogs, and every Cape Dory and
every Beneteau was a little bittoo narrow.
So the island packet wasdefinitely the way to go and
when I met that couple it wasinstant I knew that was the boat
, that was the couple,everything just kind of synced
and it was Are you talking aboutthe couple that owned the boat
(03:51):
Prior?
Capn Tinsley (03:51):
Yes, the people that I purchased the vessel from
.
Yes, all right, and they yousaid they were living on it for
11 years.
Juliet SV Spica (03:55):
you were saying offline 11 years in the keys.
They sure did.
They were wild animals.
I aspired to be exactly likethat.
They were really cool to me andum ended up staying friends
with them because of that.
Capn Tinsley (04:05):
So, um, they helped me a lot, a lot about
this vessel well, if you can,you mind saying their names, um,
ann and daryl.
Okay, and did they say in amarina or did what?
What's the last?
Juliet SV Spica (04:21):
name Sadler, sadler, okay, yeah, and the
vessel before I renamed it Spica, it was Alibi, so a lot of
people should know the vessel asAlibi down in the Keys because
it was there for 11 years do youknow where they kept it?
Capn Tinsley (04:41):
or was it at a marina?
Or were they living on the hook?
Juliet SV Spica (04:44):
on the hook, on the hook, oh they were divers
so they would teach people howto dive that would come, and so
they had to get creative in thatincome to support like that
life, just as we all do wow,yeah, we all have to try to
support this life, don't?
We all right.
(05:06):
So much though it becomes likethe dragon eating the tail.
So it's okay, because it's likewhat your passion or what your
interests are, and so puttingmoney into that is just kind of
okay right, I yeah, I agree, Itotally agree.
Capn Tinsley (05:21):
I've spent like a million dollars on my boat, but
that's okay.
Now do you remember your firstsolo sale?
Cause I know you've soloed youdon't solo all the time but I
know you've soloed Um.
Juliet SV Spica (05:36):
I have and it was.
It wasn't a hundred percent bychoice, because we were just
separated at the time and, um,it was genuinely, if I'm honest,
terrifying, because I didn'thave the experience.
I had the knowledge, but notthe actual experience, and so,
putting everything connected, itwas overwhelming, if I'm just
(06:00):
honest, it wasn't like apleasurable experience.
I was like oh snap, and then gotsome squalls that forced the
boat to come on anchored and hadto handle that and another
vessel hit this vessel and so itwas kind of Like ripping a
bandaid off.
Capn Tinsley (06:19):
It was kind of like ripping a bandaid off.
I think that's normal.
I think that's normal.
Juliet SV Spica (06:24):
I found out that that is, but I wasn't ready
.
Capn Tinsley (06:28):
Yeah, so, and now, how do you feel about it?
Juliet SV Spica (06:33):
It's home.
It's home, it's none of thenone of it is as overwhelming as
it used to be.
It now takes a whole differentbeast of it's problem solving,
and so you can handle it.
And then you kind of get intomore of a routine.
You understand, this anglemeans I have to do this and I
(06:54):
have to cheat everything thisway.
And so you start to like,instead of fumbling through the
steps, you are actually likedoing the steps and you build
confidence in that.
Capn Tinsley (07:06):
Sure, I definitely .
And, um, you know, not a lot ofwomen will, will, do, will,
will do, will sell by themselves.
I've met some incredible onesthat have gone around the world
now, but but as a rule, you know, I hear a lot from women.
Why, yourself?
If I had a dollar for everytime I heard that I'd be rich.
Juliet SV Spica (07:27):
It's true yes, you would be.
I would rather not, becausethat wasn't the the dream but
about.
I've owned Spico now for twoyears and for about half of that
time I lived on it solo atAnchorage and so just recently
got into a marina just to kindof like find that baseline again
(07:50):
for some normalcy and just kindof the conveniences of, but I
won't be here in this area formore than it more than a year,
for sure, because I didn't buy aboat to stay.
Stay in one spot.
Capn Tinsley (08:03):
Oh, I like to hear that.
Oh, and so you're at a marinanow and you're in New Smyrna
Beach um, actually I relocateddown to Fort Pierce.
Juliet SV Spica (08:13):
Okay, all right yeah, that's nice though and
that's where we're, but that'swhere I'm from.
Capn Tinsley (08:19):
Yeah okay, uh, let's see.
Um, oh, what's it like livingaboard in new smyrna beach?
Juliet SV Spica (08:26):
or we can say, what's it like living aboard in
port pierce we can do either, orwhich one would you like to do
either one?
How about both?
The water in new smyrna beachis a little bit Central Florida
water, so it's brown, it's murky, it's not what you would
visualize your vessel on likeliving your best YOLO life.
(08:51):
Yeah, you're like.
I don't know if I would want toget in that water, and so that
was kind of a negative for me,although I was very familiar
with the area.
There are much better locations,in my opinion, to anchor out at
, and so Fort Pierce for me wasthat perfect, ideal spot for
(09:13):
still staying in Florida for thetime and having access to the
ocean.
It was an immediate access andthe water's perfect so port
pier's, probably for the nextyear.
Capn Tinsley (09:27):
Okay, um, uh, oh, you've got.
You've got some plans.
Um, you told me that you'rethinking about sailing the east
coast, the east 100.
Juliet SV Spica (09:39):
So within owning this vessel it was just a
matter of three weeks took itimmediately over to Great Sail
Cay and did a couple passages toand from the Bahamas and got
pretty acclimated with her andwhat that took.
And then the next, larger one.
Instead of doing short littleminis back and forth, I would
(10:00):
really like to go up the Eastcoast of the United States over
to Nova Scotia, greenland, andthen do the loop over in Norway.
Capn Tinsley (10:09):
Oh my gosh, that's incredible.
Juliet SV Spica (10:11):
So that's going to be the year of like,
planning, researching, because Idon't, I don't want to go into
it completely green.
Even though it will be my firsttime.
I would like to have theeducation, the timing, the trade
ones, just everything and theboat all the way up for that.
I'm definitely going to do itin the warmer months so tell me,
why norway it's beautiful, itis stunning.
(10:39):
It is the mountains and theocean mixed and they're just
it's stunning.
It's a lot of our heritagecomes from that region and
Scotland and Ireland and all ofthat right there.
So it's just kind of.
I researched a lot of the landsthere and based on our surname
(11:00):
and just was like fascinatedwith all of that, with the
genealogy.
So just going and exploringthat just seemed like top notch.
And then the next one.
Capn Tinsley (11:10):
That's really cool .
Or maybe, uh, that mygrandfather was from norway,
yeah, and his brother.
They both came over here, but,uh, I've never been so's.
I think that's fascinating.
I don't like cold sailing,though.
Juliet SV Spica (11:31):
I'm researching the heaters, the diesel heaters
, right now.
Capn Tinsley (11:35):
I'm like maybe it's like an enclosure you know
and then which I don't.
I don't have a full enclosure,no, so definitely that would
have to be on the list.
Juliet SV Spica (11:47):
For sure yeah.
Capn Tinsley (11:48):
Yeah, so that's fascinating.
So I guess you would go in thewarmer months up to do your
crossing in the summer.
Yes, okay, all right.
So let's see.
How are you preparing for thatpassage?
Are there any parts you'restill trying to figure out?
Juliet SV Spica (12:11):
Well, in all honesty, I'm just going to keep
it as simple.
I am networking and talking topeople that are telling me what
they have done to prepare forpassages that are similar and
those are my best resources, andthen I I listen to them, like
they tell me this is the bestteeter, this is the best
whatever.
I research it and try to put iton the list the list.
Capn Tinsley (12:36):
Yeah, and I have a name for you who's a couple
that's on an island packet thatI can send it to you.
They do that's.
All they do is cold waterplaces they want.
They love sleet and ice and andI don't understand it, but
that's.
They like the cold placesbetter than the Caribbean.
So you probably I should, youshould probably talk to them.
Juliet SV Spica (13:00):
Okay, this is a one time thing.
I probably won't spend a wholebunch of time there, because I'm
definitely a Florida girl, so Icouldn't imagine staying in a
place that was too cold for toolong yeah, so maybe I'll see you
out on the water down in theKeys or something after this
(13:20):
trip.
Capn Tinsley (13:21):
Okay, so obviously the trip to norway be your
longest passage when you, whenyou make that um, are you
planning to to stick to the icwor head offshore as you move up
the east coast, or both.
Juliet SV Spica (13:39):
Actually, I want to do both.
There are a handful of spotsthat I think are pretty good,
like like little coves and nooksalong the East Coast, that I
would also like to explore,since I have a vessel and I'm
able to go up.
So I think I would do both.
Capn Tinsley (13:53):
Yeah, I guess it depends on whether.
Juliet SV Spica (13:54):
There are certain sections you cannot do
both, but where there's a bigchunk where you either have to
commit on one side or the other,and so I would probably do that
.
Capn Tinsley (14:07):
Are you gonna be doing this by yourself?
No, okay, okay, your dogs.
Let's talk about the dogs now.
You down to one dog now.
Yeah, that's all that tributevideo you did to your German
Shepherd and I was like, oh, shewas so cool.
Juliet SV Spica (14:29):
She was 13 years old and her hindquarters
were starting to give out, andso she weighed 65 pounds, and
lifting her up and down thecompanionway was a workout all
in itself.
Every single walk was twice aday, but we would go out to an
island and just let her roam onthe beach and have a good time,
(14:50):
and the pit bull was able tomaintain because he was more of
a spring chicken at that time.
But yeah, we're down one dognow and he's a handful,
especially still in the smallspace.
But before, especially with thelack of knowledge and
experience, having two dogs onthe boat was um, it was.
(15:11):
It was a lot, if I'm honest.
It was a lot to maintain andkeep up.
Capn Tinsley (15:15):
I want to show this.
Uh, right here, I love this.
This shows your boat and thedog and I just and the.
What's his name?
Bronson?
Juliet SV Spica (15:35):
Bronson, yeah, correct, uh, he looks very
comfortable in the dinghy he didnot know how to swim when I
purchased the boat, and so he isa full water dog now, and he is
.
He had a learning curve,exactly like I did, and he now
is swimming with the dolphinsand having a great time.
He's very comfortable.
Capn Tinsley (15:56):
How old is he?
Seven, okay, so he's not.
He, he's not.
He wasn't too old to to learnno, not at all.
Juliet SV Spica (16:07):
His curiosity overtook his age by far.
He was like he would seedolphins going by and he would
go out just short enough towhere his legs would now not be
touching the bottom, and then he, he would start to learn, and
he just kept looping until he,he would start to learn, and he
just kept looping until heactually learned how to swim,
and now he's pretty good at it.
Capn Tinsley (16:27):
That's cool, yeah, yeah, because I'm I'm gonna be
taking my cats, like I told you,and I've got a.
I got little life jackets forthem, I put on, put them on the
cats and they just kind of laiddown and just sat there.
So they'll have to get used toit.
(16:47):
What are you doing to me?
Yeah, yeah.
Um, so I do want to talk aboutyour favorite Anchorage, but
let's, let's cover that towardsthe end.
Um, let's see.
Uh, oh, talk about your, yourlife coaching business.
Juliet SV Spica (17:09):
Um, so I kind of walk the walk and a lot of
what I do I do carnivorelifestyle and carnivore health
and I did that by learning froma doctor about my own medical
needs and stuff like that, andit worked.
And then I had another familydid it and it worked and it just
(17:33):
kind of continued.
So I was like, huh, maybe I'monto something here.
Before I was just more lifecoaching and so really taking on
the health and then empowerment, like learning how to problem
solve, and so implementing thatinto life and then getting the
coaching to be a source ofincome so I could live the
(17:55):
lifestyle on a boat was mycreative way, the way that yours
is with podcasting.
It was easy something I could doshould use from computer.
I could have a background whereI'm doing jumping jacks and
showing people a workout or justkind of encouraging them to do
whatever they are we're puttingon, but teaching just
empowerment and that people canreally problem-solve and get
(18:17):
through almost any type ofadversity that they face so how
does that blend with the sailinglifestyle?
It seems like it blendsperfectly it actually it does
blend perfectly, uh, because Ichange locations a lot.
It's we have many, many coachesin the world, but the
background, the change, the factthat it's on a sailboat, um,
(18:38):
that kind of intrigues peopleand then once they get in and
they start implementing thatsame stuff into their life and
it, it provides money in thataccess as well.
And the friendship honestly, Iended up being friends with
people that I ended up coaching,so it's been a great network.
Capn Tinsley (18:55):
I think it's been very empowering for me with the
sailing, just just the sense ofaccomplishment.
And you know, if I'm offshoresomewhere, it's almost like
being in church for me.
It's just.
I mean just to see the beautyand the nature and just
everything.
It's just, it's, it's extremelyum gives you, gives me a sense
(19:20):
of accomplishment, you know, ina humble way, and it's very
humbling out there becausethings can get out of hand
quickly, very humbling.
That's why I meant the walk.
Juliet SV Spica (19:32):
The walk because it's easy to preach it,
but when you're living withmother nature and your home
floats, you really have tochallenge yourself sometimes of
what that frame of mind is.
It's humbling and it's it's ayou learn about yourself.
You learn what you're capableof that you maybe weren't
(19:53):
capable of before and you maybegenuinely were not.
But if you stick to it, havesome stubbornness and, like, get
the right frame of mind, thereisn't really much that you can't
get through, and I think thatthat is true.
And living on a boat.
Capn Tinsley (20:08):
Yeah, someone on the podcast said, and I'm
paraphrasing it's empowering andhumbling at the same time,
because it's empowering but thenyou realize you are just a
little, a little smidgen on theearth and you're and the, the
storms and the ocean, andeverything is really, uh, the
(20:30):
boss there's no question.
Juliet SV Spica (20:37):
you're just along for the ride's right and
it has to be respected.
Capn Tinsley (20:42):
People ask me if I get scared and I just say
scared's really not the word.
I respect it and we take allthe precautions, but then in the
end, if something happens,something happens.
I know it's a risk.
I'm sure you know it's a risk.
Juliet SV Spica (20:59):
I use that fear as the fuel to continuously do
it Like to prove that I'm justnot in that false cage, which is
basically the same thing as you, and it's humbling to when you
finally get done.
You're like I did it, that wascrazy, you know, and you kind of
(21:22):
like pat yourself on the backand you're like I have no idea
how that all happened.
But when you slow down and youreally look at everything, um,
and you respect Hayden.
Capn Tinsley (21:33):
This is Hayden and Radine here.
They want to know do you teachyoga to cruisers?
Juliet SV Spica (21:39):
I don't teach yoga, but somatic healing and
getting in touch with your mindand body and recognizing like,
say, just hyper vigilance orhyper breathing shallow
breathing and if you're in thatstate of anything, so not yoga,
but definitely I do shortcircuit breathing shallow
breathing and if you're in thatstate of anything, so not yoga,
but definitely I do shortcircuit 20 minute workouts and
(22:01):
it keeps the heart rate elevatedthe whole time.
They're more intense than whatyoga would be.
Capn Tinsley (22:06):
Well, just think about your services in
Georgetown.
You know about Georgetown,right In the Exumas.
That's a whole sailboatcommunity down there.
Especially in the winter, youwould have lots of customers
there Of all.
Yes, that's what my goal.
I want to try to get therelater this year.
Juliet SV Spica (22:27):
When are you going to?
Capn Tinsley (22:28):
go.
I'm shooting for maybe leavinghere, like in Gulf Shores,
orange Beach, in November,november 1st, and try to be gone
for two months and I'd like toget to the Exumas for the first
time.
I've made it to Nassau before,but I've never been to
Georgetown and I've interviewedmany people on this podcast and
(22:50):
it is someplace that I reallywant to go soon.
Yeah, okay, I'm want to go soon.
Juliet SV Spica (22:56):
Yeah, okay, I'm going to keep that in mind.
Thank you for passing thatalong.
I might think about some ofthat, yeah.
Capn Tinsley (23:03):
There would be people there that would probably
want your services and there'sa lot of bartering going on and
it's a very I can't think of theword.
People are so gracious withtheir knowledge and they're very
helpful.
They're very generous withtheir time, like if you need
(23:23):
help or you need a part.
It just sounds like a greatsailboat community down there in
the wintertime.
What Georgetown?
Georgetown, also known asChicken Harbor, because a lot of
people they go down that farand they think they're going to
go further and then they chickenout and they just stay there
because it's so comfortable.
Juliet SV Spica (23:44):
It's so much fun.
Huh, is that how I got its name?
Capn Tinsley (23:48):
Yeah, chicken Harbor is unofficially known as
that because people, justbecause if you go further south
of there it gets kind of rough,you know, yeah, you're, you're.
It gets a little morechallenging with the sailing and
the weather and everything.
So but anyway, I will, we'lltalk about that.
Um, yes, um, what's one lessonsailing has taught you?
(24:14):
That really applies to everydaylife.
We kind of talked about thatalready.
Juliet SV Spica (24:19):
But yeah, not to get overwhelmed with the
stuff.
You have to prioritize it and,like put it in order so you can
get through whatever it is soprioritize.
Capn Tinsley (24:28):
Okay, yeah, and have you learned anything about
maintenance or any of that?
Juliet SV Spica (24:34):
Yes.
I didn't realize I was signingup to be an electrician a
plumber, all of the above.
I thought I was just going tosay I live my best life.
But yeah, you learn to do.
You know, you change thefilters to the water maker.
You learn about solar panelsbecause I have bifacial solar
panels, which is amazing andthen also how to change a Joker
(24:57):
valve and a toilet, and thenalso you know, just all of it.
You end up learning a lot.
You did this yourself, um, notat first, but I have in those
experiences.
I did by myself, yes, and thisis what saved me Google or
(25:20):
YouTube, youtube, if I'm honest,like emergency how to change a
Joker valve because I justdidn't know, I didn't even know,
that's amazing.
I didn't know what washappening.
I just knew my toilet wasbacking up and acting really bad
.
And it was a mess, so you justlearn Was it a clog?
(25:44):
It was.
The actual valve itself wasn'tflapping anymore, and so from
the tank it was backing up andoverflowing, I didn't, and so
every time a wake would come byfrom another vessel.
Cause I was at Anchorage.
I was like I'm in about an inchof my own mess.
I'll leave it at that, verbiage.
Capn Tinsley (26:05):
Wow, and you figured that out.
That's awesome.
Juliet SV Spica (26:11):
That's what you end up having to do.
It's.
Capn Tinsley (26:13):
It's a dirty job, but somebody's got to do it now.
Juliet SV Spica (26:16):
Yeah, it's you end up learning a lot.
Capn Tinsley (26:22):
Uh, I'm, I can.
I got to get off the creditcard teat, you know, because I
just I call my, my, the companythat works on my boat, I call
them.
And uh, the company that workson my boat, I call them, and
I've got to get off that.
I've got to stop beingdependent on other people to do
the maintenance on my boat.
So I'm in awe of that and I dohave to learn that I have not.
Juliet SV Spica (26:44):
This is one thing that I, so far, am proud
of, but it's also very humbling,as you have said, anything that
has been any type ofmaintenance, whether it's the
original engine, which is aYanmar, everything has been
maintained to that level andit's still that level.
Capn Tinsley (27:06):
And yeah, that and Sarah that's.
It's neat to preserve it.
Well, that's cool.
So Hayden and Radine arewatching and they would probably
know who the former owners areof your boat.
It's sailing vessel alibi wasthe name, hayden, so I'm
wondering if you and what weretheir names again, Ann and Daryl
.
Juliet SV Spica (27:22):
I think it's Sadler or Stadler.
Capn Tinsley (27:24):
Okay, yeah, he'll speak up if he's still listening
.
He knows, he knows everybody.
Juliet SV Spica (27:30):
Everybody.
Oh yeah, they knew everybodytoo.
They're a really cool couple.
Capn Tinsley (27:35):
Yeah, it's.
It's really a nice community,isn't it?
And Hayden runs that Facebookpage and it's just got
everything.
That's another thing you cansearch.
That's another great resource,because everybody's asked that
question and, um, if you need toupgrade something or
something's broken or where youneed to order it, all the
answers there do you use that asa resource?
(27:55):
What, what?
Resource was it again theisland packet um island packet
facebook group for the owners um, I have not as much every blue
moon I will.
Juliet SV Spica (28:08):
I normally do exactly what I said.
I YouTube and just immediatelylike resource and Google and
what do I do with this, andnormally do that, but I probably
should reach out more.
If I'm honest, I probably haveless.
Capn Tinsley (28:23):
Well, all you got to do is go up there and search
and somebody's asked thequestion before, probably, and
if they haven't, then you justpost your question and it's all
there.
So Hayden says oh yes, we knowthem.
Was it not 35, cheris?
I?
Juliet SV Spica (28:40):
don't know what that is, and it was Daryl and
Ann.
Capn Tinsley (28:46):
Okay, so nope, that's not it.
Sorry guys.
Let's see what we got here.
Um, let's see what we got here.
What advice would you givesomeone who wants to combine
boat life with meaningful work,which is what you're doing?
Juliet SV Spica (29:05):
prepare to find balance, and this is what I
mean by that.
There have been times where Iwas scheduled to have a client
meeting for an hour and therewas a thunderstorm, there was a
lot of racket going on and theconnection was not bad.
So you have to just, instead ofgetting disappointed, you have
(29:26):
to set the stage, and I love it,if I'm honest yes, daryl and
Ann from Chesapeake Bay.
Capn Tinsley (29:44):
I'm not sure I know your boat Well yeah they
were in uh, they were into theKeys for 11 years.
They were in the Keys for 11years.
Juliet SV Spica (29:54):
Yep, key West also.
Capn Tinsley (29:56):
Okay, primarily they didn't have a home back.
It was.
Juliet SV Spica (30:01):
Alibi.
It was the Alibi back then.
Capn Tinsley (30:05):
Okay, all right.
Yeah, so you do have Starlink.
Juliet SV Spica (30:12):
Yes, and I toggle it on and off.
I got the Marine package, which, in the Bahamas, was lightning
fast.
I did not expect that and itwas fabulous.
So I definitely recommend, ifyou're going to do anything
online, to go ahead and justbite the bullet and I know that
it's more expensive, but it'sworth it if that's what you're
basing your income off of, butit's worth it if that's what
(30:33):
you're basing your income off of.
So the Marine package, meaningthe $5,000 Marine package, you
can toggle it on and off thisand you can also pay it monthly.
Capn Tinsley (30:44):
I've got the $160 a month package that I can
toggle on and off and you didn'thave to upgrade your package
when you went to the Bahamas.
Juliet SV Spica (30:55):
No, all the satellites came down.
Capn Tinsley (30:58):
Wow, that's great.
Okay, and I know that.
Juliet SV Spica (31:05):
Hayden and Radian used theirs as well.
Do they have?
Capn Tinsley (31:06):
the package.
Well, I think it's called themobile package, now the marine
package.
When I think of the marinepackage, I think of the big one
that that's five thousanddollars and it's I don't know
how much a month for for likeyachts and things yes, a hundred
percent.
Juliet SV Spica (31:23):
I do not have that package, I have no, do not
have that package I have thebudget.
Capn Tinsley (31:28):
Yeah, it would totally blow the budget I have
to do far more push-ups.
We have the Rome 150 a month.
No, wait a minute, I don't havethe 150 a month.
Juliet SV Spica (31:43):
Mine's 160.
I'm taking notes right now.
I'm learning a lot right now onthis, okay.
Capn Tinsley (31:48):
Well, they're in St Martin, and they know, and
they've used theirs all alongthe way.
Okay, in St Martin, and theyknow, and they've used theirs
all along the way, okay.
So, alright, here's one Justfor fun.
What's one thing you alwayshave on board, besides the dog,
of course?
Juliet SV Spica (32:08):
Coffee.
Capn Tinsley (32:10):
Coffee.
Juliet SV Spica (32:11):
Coffee Is that what you said?
Capn Tinsley (32:13):
100% of the time, coffee, yes okay, you're my kind
of gal right there.
Just as long as I have coffee,I'm good.
I'm just oh I love that answeryeah, all right answer yeah, all
right.
So let's pull up your, yourAnchorage in Fort Pierce.
(32:38):
Okay, I'm going to pull upGoogle maps.
I'm going to go to Fort Pierce,all right, and I'm going to put
this on the screen and you tellme where to go okay, if you
(33:12):
just keep it right there.
Juliet SV Spica (33:14):
Okay, so you see the purple go.
Okay, so you're in the inlet.
And that was actually the firstinlet that I left from um
indiantown, where I actuallypurchased the vessel, but it
came into this inlet and so goscroll to the right this way.
(33:35):
Yes, ma'am, all right.
Okay, so if you see that IslandRight here, go to the left with
the mouse.
Yes, ma'am, perfect.
So that is the Island where Ianchored for about a year.
Wow, Spoiler.
(33:57):
Yep, and the, the, the twohurricanes that just hit Florida
, like the past year.
Yeah, we, the, we were anchoredon exactly where your mouse is
at Right here and yep, and alittle bit more to the left.
(34:17):
Yes, perfect, right there,perfect, yep, okay, so right
there is excellent, because thetraffic is not too bad.
It's in their-wake zone.
Capn Tinsley (34:32):
Really it's a no-wake zone.
Juliet SV Spica (34:34):
That's nice.
I know they do get some wakesthough, but tons of vessels come
right here and kind of collectand then jump over to the
Bahamas from this port, and thatwas actually the very first
passage.
Um was from that inlet to greatsale k, I think, under like
(34:55):
less than a month doing that,and that is a great spot.
That island right there isbasically doesn't even have a
person on it monday throughfriday, and then on the weekends
everybody kind of gathers thereand has a big barbecue or stuff
and people like beach up.
It's a great location and thewater is perfect.
(35:15):
The storms get a little hasty,so having a substantial anchor
is definitely needed.
I've seen many boats come onanchored, including myself, like
if you look to the middle ofthe right screen where it says
Chuck's seafood restaurant,right next to it is the Coast
(35:38):
Guard, and at one point in timewe were anchored next to the
island and a 65 mile per hourknot storm came through and
almost put the vessel on therocks that are right there at
that point where the Coast Guardis.
So we get some pretty goodstorms in this location.
(35:59):
So it's something to be awareof.
But if you take the rightprecautions, you're good.
The place right where you'reright next to the, that's the
chuck's restaurant.
Right to the right of it is thecoast guard base and then, if
you see right to the right ofthat, there is a marina and that
is currently where I'm at forthe favor, the favor cove.
(36:21):
So we actually went and movedthe vessel during those
hurricanes further south, butthen the hurricane changed
direction and actually camecloser.
Talking about is right righthere, this little note, good,
further down.
Yep, that's exactly what he'stalking about and this entire
(36:44):
area.
You can see the little vesselsover here to the right.
They it was packed, everybodywas there and then, after the
hurricanes drove through theboat, the boat work yard and a
couple vessels were being workedon their maintenance.
There's all kinds of cool fishin here and I mean again, the
(37:06):
ocean is right there, so it'seasy sailing.
For just learning, I just hadto pull up my phone.
I went to check my phone tomake sure that it wasn't my
connection, everything justfroze on me so I just thought
I'd come on here.
Capn Tinsley (37:24):
Let's see.
Um hayden says something here.
What does it say?
Oh my god, that that's my IPYOAIsland Packet calendar over
your left shoulder.
Juliet SV Spica (37:34):
That's it, I promise you it is.
It's really cool too.
Spica is November, yeah, andshe's a great vessel.
It was really cool.
Yeah, it's a great community.
I promise I learned um in theboat life that you get a really
(37:58):
cool community that comes withit and everybody's willing to
help, like genuinely help, andthat's that was needed,
especially for somebody as greenas me that didn't have any
experience.
I agree.
Capn Tinsley (38:10):
Yeah.
Juliet SV Spica (38:10):
It built me up.
I needed it for sure All right.
Well.
Capn Tinsley (38:21):
There you are.
He says hello, I've been doingthis 30 years.
Only two for me, so it's stillgot 28 years to learn.
I guess, since my um, all myequipment is failing.
Maybe we should go ahead andend.
It is unless you've gotsomething you want to say or any
(38:41):
questions you want to put outthere for hayden, because he
knows everything.
You've got his full attentionright now.
Juliet SV Spica (38:48):
I don't necessarily have any questions
right now for Hayden, but I'msure that I will reach out to
him for sure, and I appreciatethat for for from him and you.
I feel open to that, and bothof you have made me feel that
way, so that's, that's awesome.
Capn Tinsley (39:03):
Oh, good, good, you know he's, he's on an island
pack at 35 as well.
Juliet SV Spica (39:09):
It's amazing.
Capn Tinsley (39:11):
Yeah, he knows everything about that boat.
He also knows oh, I think shehas joined.
I have.
Yeah, she's on there.
You know, I had an island packat 27 to begin with and he had
an island pack at 27.
I always and he had that.
He had an island pack at 27.
I always forget, but I think itwas 15 years.
(39:32):
It was a long time.
I always forget the years.
But I've called him in a panicabout a few times, so he was
very helpful.
Juliet SV Spica (39:42):
I have a couple that I have leaned on
particularly a lot on.
The first year was Mike andConnie Parsons.
They also have an Island Packetand they kept pushing you're
definitely going to want anIsland Packet and ultimately
they were not wrong.
Capn Tinsley (40:00):
And then he introduced me to Hayden and that
the whole community basically,and so island packet community
itself is huge and also veryhelpful yeah, and that a lot has
to do with him, because he'sreally he's super organized and,
uh, all the information isthere for us if we want to do
(40:21):
anything on any of our boats.
So it's really nice.
Thank you, hayden.
Yeah, seriously, I would loveto buddy boat with you sometime
in the Keys or wherever.
Juliet SV Spica (40:39):
I think that would be a lot of fun.
You're welcome anytime to doany of that.
I would love to plan somethingwith you for sure.
Anytime, do anything.
You can go to the Bahamas anyof that, and I would love to
plan something with you for sure.
anytime, do anything you knowlike you can go to the bahamas,
like you were saying, or justwhatever that is, and like buddy
boat, I'm about it.
I've done it with a coupleother vessels before and so
anytime I would be grateful forthat opportunity that is awesome
(41:02):
, because you can't have toomany friends right?
Capn Tinsley (41:05):
and um, hayden, are you going to be in the
Bahamas in November or December?
Let's see if he answers.
He keeps his boat in, like StMartin or Antigua or any of
those.
They've been keeping it downthere in the summertime and they
come home and then I think theygo back in either November or
(41:27):
December.
So, hayden, are you going to bein Exumas anytime soon, anytime
this year, next year, butanyway.
So I'll be keeping up with youand I do want to do this again
before you take off on your trip.
Juliet SV Spica (41:48):
Okay, Definitely You're going to do
that.
Capn Tinsley (41:51):
Oh, he's going to do Caribbean the next few years,
so you're definitely going todo that first, right Before you
make any Bahamas or any, anykeys or anything.
Juliet SV Spica (41:59):
Is that right?
I would probably do anotherround over to the Bahamas before
I did that one, just to kind ofget loosened up a little bit,
and then shortly afterwards makethat departure like I would
probably do that and get some ofthat.
Florida, caribbean or likeisland sun before I went
somewhere cold or yeah, yeahmaybe we can maybe we can uh
(42:25):
meet in key biscayne orsomething.
Capn Tinsley (42:30):
Hayden has taught me a lot about Key Biscayne.
Thank you, I'm sorry about allthe difficulties with the
technology.
Sometimes it just does that.
It gets overwhelmed, I guess.
Thank you so much and I willtalk to you again soon.
Juliet SV Spica (42:46):
I appreciate you.
Thank you for the opportunity.
Capn Tinsley (42:49):
Thanks for coming on, Salty Abandon out much and I
will talk to you again soon.
I appreciate you.
Thank you for the opportunity.
Thanks for coming on, SaltyAbandon out.
What stirs the soul, to cast the lines, hoist
the sails and leave comfort ofshore behind.
Tonight we meet Juliette ofsailing vessel Spica, who sails
an Island Packet 35 out of NewSmyrna Beach, florida, with her
loyal four-legged crew and a mixof solo sailing and sailing
with a crew.
Juliette has some excitingsailing plans on the horizon and
(00:22):
, while the details are stillcoming together, her course is
clearly set for adventure.
Has some exciting sailing planson the horizon and, while the
details are still comingtogether, her course is clearly
set for adventure.
She is also a life coach,blending mindset, purpose and
passion for the sailinglifestyle.
In this episode we'll find outwhat first got her into sailing
and how it's evolved over time,and how she's preparing for
whatever comes next, but firstfor whatever comes next.
(00:46):
But first.
Quick favor, hit like,subscribe and share this video
and don't be shy.
Drop your comments in the livechat on YouTube or Facebook so
Juliet can reply in real time.
I'm Captain Tinsley of SaltyAbandoned, an Island Packet 320
sailboat, and this is the SaltyPodcast, episode 56 juliette,
welcome to the podcast, thankyou, hello thank you, it's nice
(01:11):
to be here.
Thank you for coming on.
It's a pleasure to meet you anduh, all right, so I do have a
first question.
Here we go.
How did we start at thebeginning?
How did you first get intosailing?
What was there a moment thathooked you?
Juliet SV Spica (01:34):
Absolutely, it's a little bit of a backstory
.
Capn Tinsley (01:39):
One of my girlfriends and I were sitting
there.
Juliet SV Spica (01:42):
We were talking on the phone and we were
talking about starting a channeland we were talking about just
fishing.
And then I went home and spoketo my husband and we were empty
nesters and we kind of were wedidn't use half the house and we
were kind of having thatrealization and we both are
pretty adventurous and we likedoing things.
(02:02):
So we decided to go up toAnnapolis and do the school,
where they allowed you to stayon the boat for four days and
yeah, it's an island packet, andso during that time we were
looking at like Beneteau's, um,the Cape Dory and the island
(02:23):
packet those were the three likegreat brands that we were
considering.
But once we did the school Iwas hooked 100% hooked.
Capn Tinsley (02:33):
I was all in.
Juliet SV Spica (02:34):
I wanted to definitely live on a sailboat.
Capn Tinsley (02:37):
That's interesting .
So is that ASA 104 class.
Juliet SV Spica (02:42):
Yep.
Capn Tinsley (02:43):
Yes, I took that class too, and you were on an
Island Packet for the class.
Yeah, yes, I took that classtoo, and you were on an island
packet for the class.
Yeah, I was 32.
Okay, all right, so, and so mynext question is about your
island packet 35.
What made you choose thatparticular boat?
Juliet SV Spica (03:01):
Well, it was a couple things.
The couple that I met felt verysimilar to me.
So for me, on routine I hadspent about a year looking for
vessels.
That was about that was goingto fit the needs and everything
that I wanted At the time.
I had two dogs, a GermanShepherd and a pit bull, and so
room was a factor for sure.
(03:23):
Sure, with two humans and twodogs, and every Cape Dory and
every Beneteau was a little bittoo narrow.
So the island packet wasdefinitely the way to go and
when I met that couple it wasinstant I knew that was the boat
, that was the couple,everything just kind of synced
and it was Are you talking aboutthe couple that owned the boat
(03:51):
Prior?
Capn Tinsley (03:51):
Yes, the people that I purchased the vessel from
.
Yes, all right, and they yousaid they were living on it for
11 years.
Juliet SV Spica (03:55):
you were saying offline 11 years in the keys.
They sure did.
They were wild animals.
I aspired to be exactly likethat.
They were really cool to me andum ended up staying friends
with them because of that.
Capn Tinsley (04:05):
So, um, they helped me a lot, a lot about
this vessel well, if you can,you mind saying their names, um,
ann and daryl.
Okay, and did they say in amarina or did what?
What's the last?
Juliet SV Spica (04:21):
name Sadler, sadler, okay, yeah, and the
vessel before I renamed it Spica, it was Alibi, so a lot of
people should know the vessel asAlibi down in the Keys because
it was there for 11 years do youknow where they kept it?
Capn Tinsley (04:41):
or was it at a marina?
Or were they living on the hook?
Juliet SV Spica (04:44):
on the hook, on the hook, oh they were divers
so they would teach people howto dive that would come, and so
they had to get creative in thatincome to support like that
life, just as we all do wow,yeah, we all have to try to
support this life, don't?
We all right.
(05:06):
So much though it becomes likethe dragon eating the tail.
So it's okay, because it's likewhat your passion or what your
interests are, and so puttingmoney into that is just kind of
okay right, I yeah, I agree, Itotally agree.
Capn Tinsley (05:21):
I've spent like a million dollars on my boat, but
that's okay.
Now do you remember your firstsolo sale?
Cause I know you've soloed youdon't solo all the time but I
know you've soloed Um.
Juliet SV Spica (05:36):
I have and it was.
It wasn't a hundred percent bychoice, because we were just
separated at the time and, um,it was genuinely, if I'm honest,
terrifying, because I didn'thave the experience.
I had the knowledge, but notthe actual experience, and so,
putting everything connected, itwas overwhelming, if I'm just
(06:00):
honest, it wasn't like apleasurable experience.
I was like oh snap, and then gotsome squalls that forced the
boat to come on anchored and hadto handle that and another
vessel hit this vessel and so itwas kind of Like ripping a
bandaid off.
Capn Tinsley (06:19):
It was kind of like ripping a bandaid off.
I think that's normal.
I think that's normal.
Juliet SV Spica (06:24):
I found out that that is, but I wasn't ready
.
Capn Tinsley (06:28):
Yeah, so, and now, how do you feel about it?
Juliet SV Spica (06:33):
It's home.
It's home, it's none of thenone of it is as overwhelming as
it used to be.
It now takes a whole differentbeast of it's problem solving,
and so you can handle it.
And then you kind of get intomore of a routine.
You understand, this anglemeans I have to do this and I
(06:54):
have to cheat everything thisway.
And so you start to like,instead of fumbling through the
steps, you are actually likedoing the steps and you build
confidence in that.
Capn Tinsley (07:06):
Sure, I definitely .
And, um, you know, not a lot ofwomen will, will, do, will,
will do, will sell by themselves.
I've met some incredible onesthat have gone around the world
now, but but as a rule, you know, I hear a lot from women.
Why, yourself?
If I had a dollar for everytime I heard that I'd be rich.
Juliet SV Spica (07:27):
It's true yes, you would be.
I would rather not, becausethat wasn't the the dream but
about.
I've owned Spico now for twoyears and for about half of that
time I lived on it solo atAnchorage and so just recently
got into a marina just to kindof like find that baseline again
(07:50):
for some normalcy and just kindof the conveniences of, but I
won't be here in this area formore than it more than a year,
for sure, because I didn't buy aboat to stay.
Stay in one spot.
Capn Tinsley (08:03):
Oh, I like to hear that.
Oh, and so you're at a marinanow and you're in New Smyrna
Beach um, actually I relocateddown to Fort Pierce.
Juliet SV Spica (08:13):
Okay, all right yeah, that's nice though and
that's where we're, but that'swhere I'm from.
Capn Tinsley (08:19):
Yeah okay, uh, let's see.
Um, oh, what's it like livingaboard in new smyrna beach?
Juliet SV Spica (08:26):
or we can say, what's it like living aboard in
port pierce we can do either, orwhich one would you like to do
either one?
How about both?
The water in new smyrna beachis a little bit Central Florida
water, so it's brown, it's murky, it's not what you would
visualize your vessel on likeliving your best YOLO life.
(08:51):
Yeah, you're like.
I don't know if I would want toget in that water, and so that
was kind of a negative for me,although I was very familiar
with the area.
There are much better locations,in my opinion, to anchor out at
, and so Fort Pierce for me wasthat perfect, ideal spot for
(09:13):
still staying in Florida for thetime and having access to the
ocean.
It was an immediate access andthe water's perfect so port
pier's, probably for the nextyear.
Capn Tinsley (09:27):
Okay, um, uh, oh, you've got.
You've got some plans.
Um, you told me that you'rethinking about sailing the east
coast, the east 100.
Juliet SV Spica (09:39):
So within owning this vessel it was just a
matter of three weeks took itimmediately over to Great Sail
Cay and did a couple passages toand from the Bahamas and got
pretty acclimated with her andwhat that took.
And then the next, larger one.
Instead of doing short littleminis back and forth, I would
(10:00):
really like to go up the Eastcoast of the United States over
to Nova Scotia, greenland, andthen do the loop over in Norway.
Capn Tinsley (10:09):
Oh my gosh, that's incredible.
Juliet SV Spica (10:11):
So that's going to be the year of like,
planning, researching, because Idon't, I don't want to go into
it completely green.
Even though it will be my firsttime.
I would like to have theeducation, the timing, the trade
ones, just everything and theboat all the way up for that.
I'm definitely going to do itin the warmer months so tell me,
why norway it's beautiful, itis stunning.
(10:39):
It is the mountains and theocean mixed and they're just
it's stunning.
It's a lot of our heritagecomes from that region and
Scotland and Ireland and all ofthat right there.
So it's just kind of.
I researched a lot of the landsthere and based on our surname
(11:00):
and just was like fascinatedwith all of that, with the
genealogy.
So just going and exploringthat just seemed like top notch.
And then the next one.
Capn Tinsley (11:10):
That's really cool .
Or maybe, uh, that mygrandfather was from norway,
yeah, and his brother.
They both came over here, but,uh, I've never been so's.
I think that's fascinating.
I don't like cold sailing,though.
Juliet SV Spica (11:31):
I'm researching the heaters, the diesel heaters
, right now.
Capn Tinsley (11:35):
I'm like maybe it's like an enclosure you know
and then which I don't.
I don't have a full enclosure,no, so definitely that would
have to be on the list.
Juliet SV Spica (11:47):
For sure yeah.
Capn Tinsley (11:48):
Yeah, so that's fascinating.
So I guess you would go in thewarmer months up to do your
crossing in the summer.
Yes, okay, all right.
So let's see.
How are you preparing for thatpassage?
Are there any parts you'restill trying to figure out?
Juliet SV Spica (12:11):
Well, in all honesty, I'm just going to keep
it as simple.
I am networking and talking topeople that are telling me what
they have done to prepare forpassages that are similar and
those are my best resources, andthen I I listen to them, like
they tell me this is the bestteeter, this is the best
whatever.
I research it and try to put iton the list the list.
Capn Tinsley (12:36):
Yeah, and I have a name for you who's a couple
that's on an island packet thatI can send it to you.
They do that's.
All they do is cold waterplaces they want.
They love sleet and ice and andI don't understand it, but
that's.
They like the cold placesbetter than the Caribbean.
So you probably I should, youshould probably talk to them.
Juliet SV Spica (13:00):
Okay, this is a one time thing.
I probably won't spend a wholebunch of time there, because I'm
definitely a Florida girl, so Icouldn't imagine staying in a
place that was too cold for toolong yeah, so maybe I'll see you
out on the water down in theKeys or something after this
(13:20):
trip.
Capn Tinsley (13:21):
Okay, so obviously the trip to norway be your
longest passage when you, whenyou make that um, are you
planning to to stick to the icwor head offshore as you move up
the east coast, or both.
Juliet SV Spica (13:39):
Actually, I want to do both.
There are a handful of spotsthat I think are pretty good,
like like little coves and nooksalong the East Coast, that I
would also like to explore,since I have a vessel and I'm
able to go up.
So I think I would do both.
Capn Tinsley (13:53):
Yeah, I guess it depends on whether.
Juliet SV Spica (13:54):
There are certain sections you cannot do
both, but where there's a bigchunk where you either have to
commit on one side or the other,and so I would probably do that
.
Capn Tinsley (14:07):
Are you gonna be doing this by yourself?
No, okay, okay, your dogs.
Let's talk about the dogs now.
You down to one dog now.
Yeah, that's all that tributevideo you did to your German
Shepherd and I was like, oh, shewas so cool.
Juliet SV Spica (14:29):
She was 13 years old and her hindquarters
were starting to give out, andso she weighed 65 pounds, and
lifting her up and down thecompanionway was a workout all
in itself.
Every single walk was twice aday, but we would go out to an
island and just let her roam onthe beach and have a good time,
(14:50):
and the pit bull was able tomaintain because he was more of
a spring chicken at that time.
But yeah, we're down one dognow and he's a handful,
especially still in the smallspace.
But before, especially with thelack of knowledge and
experience, having two dogs onthe boat was um, it was.
(15:11):
It was a lot, if I'm honest.
It was a lot to maintain andkeep up.
Capn Tinsley (15:15):
I want to show this.
Uh, right here, I love this.
This shows your boat and thedog and I just and the.
What's his name?
Bronson?
Juliet SV Spica (15:35):
Bronson, yeah, correct, uh, he looks very
comfortable in the dinghy he didnot know how to swim when I
purchased the boat, and so he isa full water dog now, and he is
.
He had a learning curve,exactly like I did, and he now
is swimming with the dolphinsand having a great time.
He's very comfortable.
Capn Tinsley (15:56):
How old is he?
Seven, okay, so he's not.
He, he's not.
He wasn't too old to to learnno, not at all.
Juliet SV Spica (16:07):
His curiosity overtook his age by far.
He was like he would seedolphins going by and he would
go out just short enough towhere his legs would now not be
touching the bottom, and then he, he would start to learn, and
he just kept looping until he,he would start to learn, and he
just kept looping until heactually learned how to swim,
and now he's pretty good at it.
Capn Tinsley (16:27):
That's cool, yeah, yeah, because I'm I'm gonna be
taking my cats, like I told you,and I've got a.
I got little life jackets forthem, I put on, put them on the
cats and they just kind of laiddown and just sat there.
So they'll have to get used toit.
(16:47):
What are you doing to me?
Yeah, yeah.
Um, so I do want to talk aboutyour favorite Anchorage, but
let's, let's cover that towardsthe end.
Um, let's see.
Uh, oh, talk about your, yourlife coaching business.
Juliet SV Spica (17:09):
Um, so I kind of walk the walk and a lot of
what I do I do carnivorelifestyle and carnivore health
and I did that by learning froma doctor about my own medical
needs and stuff like that, andit worked.
And then I had another familydid it and it worked and it just
(17:33):
kind of continued.
So I was like, huh, maybe I'monto something here.
Before I was just more lifecoaching and so really taking on
the health and then empowerment, like learning how to problem
solve, and so implementing thatinto life and then getting the
coaching to be a source ofincome so I could live the
(17:55):
lifestyle on a boat was mycreative way, the way that yours
is with podcasting.
It was easy something I could doshould use from computer.
I could have a background whereI'm doing jumping jacks and
showing people a workout or justkind of encouraging them to do
whatever they are we're puttingon, but teaching just
empowerment and that people canreally problem-solve and get
(18:17):
through almost any type ofadversity that they face so how
does that blend with the sailinglifestyle?
It seems like it blendsperfectly it actually it does
blend perfectly, uh, because Ichange locations a lot.
It's we have many, many coachesin the world, but the
background, the change, the factthat it's on a sailboat, um,
(18:38):
that kind of intrigues peopleand then once they get in and
they start implementing thatsame stuff into their life and
it, it provides money in thataccess as well.
And the friendship honestly, Iended up being friends with
people that I ended up coaching,so it's been a great network.
Capn Tinsley (18:55):
I think it's been very empowering for me with the
sailing, just just the sense ofaccomplishment.
And you know, if I'm offshoresomewhere, it's almost like
being in church for me.
It's just.
I mean just to see the beautyand the nature and just
everything.
It's just, it's, it's extremelyum gives you, gives me a sense
(19:20):
of accomplishment, you know, ina humble way, and it's very
humbling out there becausethings can get out of hand
quickly, very humbling.
That's why I meant the walk.
Juliet SV Spica (19:32):
The walk because it's easy to preach it,
but when you're living withmother nature and your home
floats, you really have tochallenge yourself sometimes of
what that frame of mind is.
It's humbling and it's it's ayou learn about yourself.
You learn what you're capableof that you maybe weren't
(19:53):
capable of before and you maybegenuinely were not.
But if you stick to it, havesome stubbornness and, like, get
the right frame of mind, thereisn't really much that you can't
get through, and I think thatthat is true.
And living on a boat.
Capn Tinsley (20:08):
Yeah, someone on the podcast said, and I'm
paraphrasing it's empowering andhumbling at the same time,
because it's empowering but thenyou realize you are just a
little, a little smidgen on theearth and you're and the, the
storms and the ocean, andeverything is really, uh, the
(20:30):
boss there's no question.
Juliet SV Spica (20:37):
you're just along for the ride's right and
it has to be respected.
Capn Tinsley (20:42):
People ask me if I get scared and I just say
scared's really not the word.
I respect it and we take allthe precautions, but then in the
end, if something happens,something happens.
I know it's a risk.
I'm sure you know it's a risk.
Juliet SV Spica (20:59):
I use that fear as the fuel to continuously do
it Like to prove that I'm justnot in that false cage, which is
basically the same thing as you, and it's humbling to when you
finally get done.
You're like I did it, that wascrazy, you know, and you kind of
(21:22):
like pat yourself on the backand you're like I have no idea
how that all happened.
But when you slow down and youreally look at everything, um,
and you respect Hayden.
Capn Tinsley (21:33):
This is Hayden and Radine here.
They want to know do you teachyoga to cruisers?
Juliet SV Spica (21:39):
I don't teach yoga, but somatic healing and
getting in touch with your mindand body and recognizing like,
say, just hyper vigilance orhyper breathing shallow
breathing and if you're in thatstate of anything, so not yoga,
but definitely I do shortcircuit breathing shallow
breathing and if you're in thatstate of anything, so not yoga,
but definitely I do shortcircuit 20 minute workouts and
(22:01):
it keeps the heart rate elevatedthe whole time.
They're more intense than whatyoga would be.
Capn Tinsley (22:06):
Well, just think about your services in
Georgetown.
You know about Georgetown,right In the Exumas.
That's a whole sailboatcommunity down there.
Especially in the winter, youwould have lots of customers
there Of all.
Yes, that's what my goal.
I want to try to get therelater this year.
Juliet SV Spica (22:27):
When are you going to?
Capn Tinsley (22:28):
go.
I'm shooting for maybe leavinghere, like in Gulf Shores,
orange Beach, in November,november 1st, and try to be gone
for two months and I'd like toget to the Exumas for the first
time.
I've made it to Nassau before,but I've never been to
Georgetown and I've interviewedmany people on this podcast and
(22:50):
it is someplace that I reallywant to go soon.
Yeah, okay, I'm want to go soon.
Juliet SV Spica (22:56):
Yeah, okay, I'm going to keep that in mind.
Thank you for passing thatalong.
I might think about some ofthat, yeah.
Capn Tinsley (23:03):
There would be people there that would probably
want your services and there'sa lot of bartering going on and
it's a very I can't think of theword.
People are so gracious withtheir knowledge and they're very
helpful.
They're very generous withtheir time, like if you need
(23:23):
help or you need a part.
It just sounds like a greatsailboat community down there in
the wintertime.
What Georgetown?
Georgetown, also known asChicken Harbor, because a lot of
people they go down that farand they think they're going to
go further and then they chickenout and they just stay there
because it's so comfortable.
Juliet SV Spica (23:44):
It's so much fun.
Huh, is that how I got its name?
Capn Tinsley (23:48):
Yeah, chicken Harbor is unofficially known as
that because people, justbecause if you go further south
of there it gets kind of rough,you know, yeah, you're, you're.
It gets a little morechallenging with the sailing and
the weather and everything.
So but anyway, I will, we'lltalk about that.
Um, yes, um, what's one lessonsailing has taught you?
(24:14):
That really applies to everydaylife.
We kind of talked about thatalready.
Juliet SV Spica (24:19):
But yeah, not to get overwhelmed with the
stuff.
You have to prioritize it and,like put it in order so you can
get through whatever it is soprioritize.
Capn Tinsley (24:28):
Okay, yeah, and have you learned anything about
maintenance or any of that?
Juliet SV Spica (24:34):
Yes.
I didn't realize I was signingup to be an electrician a
plumber, all of the above.
I thought I was just going tosay I live my best life.
But yeah, you learn to do.
You know, you change thefilters to the water maker.
You learn about solar panelsbecause I have bifacial solar
panels, which is amazing andthen also how to change a Joker
(24:57):
valve and a toilet, and thenalso you know, just all of it.
You end up learning a lot.
You did this yourself, um, notat first, but I have in those
experiences.
I did by myself, yes, and thisis what saved me Google or
(25:20):
YouTube, youtube, if I'm honest,like emergency how to change a
Joker valve because I justdidn't know, I didn't even know,
that's amazing.
I didn't know what washappening.
I just knew my toilet wasbacking up and acting really bad
.
And it was a mess, so you justlearn Was it a clog?
(25:44):
It was.
The actual valve itself wasn'tflapping anymore, and so from
the tank it was backing up andoverflowing, I didn't, and so
every time a wake would come byfrom another vessel.
Cause I was at Anchorage.
I was like I'm in about an inchof my own mess.
I'll leave it at that, verbiage.
Capn Tinsley (26:05):
Wow, and you figured that out.
That's awesome.
Juliet SV Spica (26:11):
That's what you end up having to do.
It's.
Capn Tinsley (26:13):
It's a dirty job, but somebody's got to do it now.
Juliet SV Spica (26:16):
Yeah, it's you end up learning a lot.
Capn Tinsley (26:22):
Uh, I'm, I can.
I got to get off the creditcard teat, you know, because I
just I call my, my, the companythat works on my boat, I call
them.
And uh, the company that workson my boat, I call them, and
I've got to get off that.
I've got to stop beingdependent on other people to do
the maintenance on my boat.
So I'm in awe of that and I dohave to learn that I have not.
Juliet SV Spica (26:44):
This is one thing that I, so far, am proud
of, but it's also very humbling,as you have said, anything that
has been any type ofmaintenance, whether it's the
original engine, which is aYanmar, everything has been
maintained to that level andit's still that level.
Capn Tinsley (27:06):
And yeah, that and Sarah that's.
It's neat to preserve it.
Well, that's cool.
So Hayden and Radine arewatching and they would probably
know who the former owners areof your boat.
It's sailing vessel alibi wasthe name, hayden, so I'm
wondering if you and what weretheir names again, Ann and Daryl
.
Juliet SV Spica (27:22):
I think it's Sadler or Stadler.
Capn Tinsley (27:24):
Okay, yeah, he'll speak up if he's still listening
.
He knows, he knows everybody.
Juliet SV Spica (27:30):
Everybody.
Oh yeah, they knew everybodytoo.
They're a really cool couple.
Capn Tinsley (27:35):
Yeah, it's.
It's really a nice community,isn't it?
And Hayden runs that Facebookpage and it's just got
everything.
That's another thing you cansearch.
That's another great resource,because everybody's asked that
question and, um, if you need toupgrade something or
something's broken or where youneed to order it, all the
answers there do you use that asa resource?
(27:55):
What, what?
Resource was it again theisland packet um island packet
facebook group for the owners um, I have not as much every blue
moon I will.
Juliet SV Spica (28:08):
I normally do exactly what I said.
I YouTube and just immediatelylike resource and Google and
what do I do with this, andnormally do that, but I probably
should reach out more.
If I'm honest, I probably haveless.
Capn Tinsley (28:23):
Well, all you got to do is go up there and search
and somebody's asked thequestion before, probably, and
if they haven't, then you justpost your question and it's all
there.
So Hayden says oh yes, we knowthem.
Was it not 35, cheris?
I?
Juliet SV Spica (28:40):
don't know what that is, and it was Daryl and
Ann.
Capn Tinsley (28:46):
Okay, so nope, that's not it.
Sorry guys.
Let's see what we got here.
Um, let's see what we got here.
What advice would you givesomeone who wants to combine
boat life with meaningful work,which is what you're doing?
Juliet SV Spica (29:05):
prepare to find balance, and this is what I
mean by that.
There have been times where Iwas scheduled to have a client
meeting for an hour and therewas a thunderstorm, there was a
lot of racket going on and theconnection was not bad.
So you have to just, instead ofgetting disappointed, you have
(29:26):
to set the stage, and I love it,if I'm honest yes, daryl and
Ann from Chesapeake Bay.
Capn Tinsley (29:44):
I'm not sure I know your boat Well yeah they
were in uh, they were into theKeys for 11 years.
They were in the Keys for 11years.
Juliet SV Spica (29:54):
Yep, key West also.
Capn Tinsley (29:56):
Okay, primarily they didn't have a home back.
It was.
Juliet SV Spica (30:01):
Alibi.
It was the Alibi back then.
Capn Tinsley (30:05):
Okay, all right.
Yeah, so you do have Starlink.
Juliet SV Spica (30:12):
Yes, and I toggle it on and off.
I got the Marine package, which, in the Bahamas, was lightning
fast.
I did not expect that and itwas fabulous.
So I definitely recommend, ifyou're going to do anything
online, to go ahead and justbite the bullet and I know that
it's more expensive, but it'sworth it if that's what you're
basing your income off of, butit's worth it if that's what
(30:33):
you're basing your income off of.
So the Marine package, meaningthe $5,000 Marine package, you
can toggle it on and off thisand you can also pay it monthly.
Capn Tinsley (30:44):
I've got the $160 a month package that I can
toggle on and off and you didn'thave to upgrade your package
when you went to the Bahamas.
Juliet SV Spica (30:55):
No, all the satellites came down.
Capn Tinsley (30:58):
Wow, that's great.
Okay, and I know that.
Juliet SV Spica (31:05):
Hayden and Radian used theirs as well.
Do they have?
Capn Tinsley (31:06):
the package.
Well, I think it's called themobile package, now the marine
package.
When I think of the marinepackage, I think of the big one
that that's five thousanddollars and it's I don't know
how much a month for for likeyachts and things yes, a hundred
percent.
Juliet SV Spica (31:23):
I do not have that package, I have no, do not
have that package I have thebudget.
Capn Tinsley (31:28):
Yeah, it would totally blow the budget I have
to do far more push-ups.
We have the Rome 150 a month.
No, wait a minute, I don't havethe 150 a month.
Juliet SV Spica (31:43):
Mine's 160.
I'm taking notes right now.
I'm learning a lot right now onthis, okay.
Capn Tinsley (31:48):
Well, they're in St Martin, and they know, and
they've used theirs all alongthe way.
Okay, in St Martin, and theyknow, and they've used theirs
all along the way, okay.
So, alright, here's one Justfor fun.
What's one thing you alwayshave on board, besides the dog,
of course?
Juliet SV Spica (32:08):
Coffee.
Capn Tinsley (32:10):
Coffee.
Juliet SV Spica (32:11):
Coffee Is that what you said?
Capn Tinsley (32:13):
100% of the time, coffee, yes okay, you're my kind
of gal right there.
Just as long as I have coffee,I'm good.
I'm just oh I love that answeryeah, all right answer yeah, all
right.
So let's pull up your, yourAnchorage in Fort Pierce.
(32:38):
Okay, I'm going to pull upGoogle maps.
I'm going to go to Fort Pierce,all right, and I'm going to put
this on the screen and you tellme where to go okay, if you
(33:12):
just keep it right there.
Juliet SV Spica (33:14):
Okay, so you see the purple go.
Okay, so you're in the inlet.
And that was actually the firstinlet that I left from um
indiantown, where I actuallypurchased the vessel, but it
came into this inlet and so goscroll to the right this way.
(33:35):
Yes, ma'am, all right.
Okay, so if you see that IslandRight here, go to the left with
the mouse.
Yes, ma'am, perfect.
So that is the Island where Ianchored for about a year.
Wow, Spoiler.
(33:57):
Yep, and the, the, the twohurricanes that just hit Florida
, like the past year.
Yeah, we, the, we were anchoredon exactly where your mouse is
at Right here and yep, and alittle bit more to the left.
(34:17):
Yes, perfect, right there,perfect, yep, okay, so right
there is excellent, because thetraffic is not too bad.
It's in their-wake zone.
Capn Tinsley (34:32):
Really it's a no-wake zone.
Juliet SV Spica (34:34):
That's nice.
I know they do get some wakesthough, but tons of vessels come
right here and kind of collectand then jump over to the
Bahamas from this port, and thatwas actually the very first
passage.
Um was from that inlet to greatsale k, I think, under like
(34:55):
less than a month doing that,and that is a great spot.
That island right there isbasically doesn't even have a
person on it monday throughfriday, and then on the weekends
everybody kind of gathers thereand has a big barbecue or stuff
and people like beach up.
It's a great location and thewater is perfect.
(35:15):
The storms get a little hasty,so having a substantial anchor
is definitely needed.
I've seen many boats come onanchored, including myself, like
if you look to the middle ofthe right screen where it says
Chuck's seafood restaurant,right next to it is the Coast
(35:38):
Guard, and at one point in timewe were anchored next to the
island and a 65 mile per hourknot storm came through and
almost put the vessel on therocks that are right there at
that point where the Coast Guardis.
So we get some pretty goodstorms in this location.
(35:59):
So it's something to be awareof.
But if you take the rightprecautions, you're good.
The place right where you'reright next to the, that's the
chuck's restaurant.
Right to the right of it is thecoast guard base and then, if
you see right to the right ofthat, there is a marina and that
is currently where I'm at forthe favor, the favor cove.
(36:21):
So we actually went and movedthe vessel during those
hurricanes further south, butthen the hurricane changed
direction and actually camecloser.
Talking about is right righthere, this little note, good,
further down.
Yep, that's exactly what he'stalking about and this entire
(36:44):
area.
You can see the little vesselsover here to the right.
They it was packed, everybodywas there and then, after the
hurricanes drove through theboat, the boat work yard and a
couple vessels were being workedon their maintenance.
There's all kinds of cool fishin here and I mean again, the
(37:06):
ocean is right there, so it'seasy sailing.
For just learning, I just hadto pull up my phone.
I went to check my phone tomake sure that it wasn't my
connection, everything justfroze on me so I just thought
I'd come on here.
Capn Tinsley (37:24):
Let's see.
Um hayden says something here.
What does it say?
Oh my god, that that's my IPYOAIsland Packet calendar over
your left shoulder.
Juliet SV Spica (37:34):
That's it, I promise you it is.
It's really cool too.
Spica is November, yeah, andshe's a great vessel.
It was really cool.
Yeah, it's a great community.
I promise I learned um in theboat life that you get a really
(37:58):
cool community that comes withit and everybody's willing to
help, like genuinely help, andthat's that was needed,
especially for somebody as greenas me that didn't have any
experience.
I agree.
Capn Tinsley (38:10):
Yeah.
Juliet SV Spica (38:10):
It built me up.
I needed it for sure All right.
Well.
Capn Tinsley (38:21):
There you are.
He says hello, I've been doingthis 30 years.
Only two for me, so it's stillgot 28 years to learn.
I guess, since my um, all myequipment is failing.
Maybe we should go ahead andend.
It is unless you've gotsomething you want to say or any
(38:41):
questions you want to put outthere for hayden, because he
knows everything.
You've got his full attentionright now.
Juliet SV Spica (38:48):
I don't necessarily have any questions
right now for Hayden, but I'msure that I will reach out to
him for sure, and I appreciatethat for for from him and you.
I feel open to that, and bothof you have made me feel that
way, so that's, that's awesome.
Capn Tinsley (39:03):
Oh, good, good, you know he's, he's on an island
pack at 35 as well.
Juliet SV Spica (39:09):
It's amazing.
Capn Tinsley (39:11):
Yeah, he knows everything about that boat.
He also knows oh, I think shehas joined.
I have.
Yeah, she's on there.
You know, I had an island packat 27 to begin with and he had
an island pack at 27.
I always and he had that.
He had an island pack at 27.
I always forget, but I think itwas 15 years.
(39:32):
It was a long time.
I always forget the years.
But I've called him in a panicabout a few times, so he was
very helpful.
Juliet SV Spica (39:42):
I have a couple that I have leaned on
particularly a lot on.
The first year was Mike andConnie Parsons.
They also have an Island Packetand they kept pushing you're
definitely going to want anIsland Packet and ultimately
they were not wrong.
Capn Tinsley (40:00):
And then he introduced me to Hayden and that
the whole community basically,and so island packet community
itself is huge and also veryhelpful yeah, and that a lot has
to do with him, because he'sreally he's super organized and,
uh, all the information isthere for us if we want to do
(40:21):
anything on any of our boats.
So it's really nice.
Thank you, hayden.
Yeah, seriously, I would loveto buddy boat with you sometime
in the Keys or wherever.
Juliet SV Spica (40:39):
I think that would be a lot of fun.
You're welcome anytime to doany of that.
I would love to plan somethingwith you for sure.
Anytime, do anything.
You can go to the Bahamas anyof that, and I would love to
plan something with you for sure.
anytime, do anything you knowlike you can go to the bahamas,
like you were saying, or justwhatever that is, and like buddy
boat, I'm about it.
I've done it with a coupleother vessels before and so
anytime I would be grateful forthat opportunity that is awesome
(41:02):
, because you can't have toomany friends right?
Capn Tinsley (41:05):
and um, hayden, are you going to be in the
Bahamas in November or December?
Let's see if he answers.
He keeps his boat in, like StMartin or Antigua or any of
those.
They've been keeping it downthere in the summertime and they
come home and then I think theygo back in either November or
(41:27):
December.
So, hayden, are you going to bein Exumas anytime soon, anytime
this year, next year, butanyway.
So I'll be keeping up with youand I do want to do this again
before you take off on your trip.
Juliet SV Spica (41:48):
Okay, Definitely You're going to do
that.
Capn Tinsley (41:51):
Oh, he's going to do Caribbean the next few years,
so you're definitely going todo that first, right Before you
make any Bahamas or any, anykeys or anything.
Juliet SV Spica (41:59):
Is that right?
I would probably do anotherround over to the Bahamas before
I did that one, just to kind ofget loosened up a little bit,
and then shortly afterwards makethat departure like I would
probably do that and get some ofthat.
Florida, caribbean or likeisland sun before I went
somewhere cold or yeah, yeahmaybe we can maybe we can uh
(42:25):
meet in key biscayne orsomething.
Capn Tinsley (42:30):
Hayden has taught me a lot about Key Biscayne.
Thank you, I'm sorry about allthe difficulties with the
technology.
Sometimes it just does that.
It gets overwhelmed, I guess.
Thank you so much and I willtalk to you again soon.
Juliet SV Spica (42:46):
I appreciate you.
Thank you for the opportunity.
Capn Tinsley (42:49):
Thanks for coming on, Salty Abandon out much and I
will talk to you again soon.
I appreciate you.
Thank you for the opportunity.
Thanks for coming on, SaltyAbandon out.
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